He might not have proper settings
#endgame-lounge
sudden wharf
I haven't changed my ACT settings in a long time.
My point was, all throughout today my ACT was showing the right numbers.
And then it showed significantly less numbers for some reason.
paper torrent
Oh i thought you meant someone else parsing
sudden wharf
I don't think so, but then again I've noticed ACT doing weird shit in my overlay sometimes.
Like one moment a person's dps might be 5100 then literally 2 seconds later it's 5700. I don't mean during the opening either, but minutes into the fight.
But as long as it'll show the correct amount on fflogs when I upload, I don't really care.
boreal edge
@sudden wharf is that kefaust?
if u kill someone during confuse tether
you get dps
brave maple
Anyone have a "combined" MCH/BRD BiS?
crosstraining to BRD and trying to keep as much MCH peices as I can
lyric tinsel
anyone know what should i gather for the next patch? I just want to prepare
heavy mist
nope
can always stock up on creation mats
and the like
probably want sands
if the datamine comes out or if u do it
lyric tinsel
oh good idea, totally forgot about sands π
woeful prawn
sands good yes
woeful prawn
i only had meme responses
heavy mist
its always mayhem at the very beginning of a patch anyways
and stocking on materia Vs is a decent idea if u can afford it
for 4.4
heavy mist
well the main ones at least
nah im srs
Det/Crit/DH
people will still buy em for penta melding
lyric tinsel
i got like 300 stacks of them lol
lyric tinsel
btw what kind of sands i should gather?
heavy mist
nothing much else besides getting crafting/gathering to their max
and prepare to make and grab all the new stuff
woeful prawn
seaborne >>>> leaf > others
lyric tinsel
Fishing ZZZ
woeful prawn
thats why its the most expensive one
lyric tinsel
well, time to level up my fishing
boreal edge
@brave maple my combined bis is same for brd and mch except mch have diamond boots while brd have i370 tome boots
brave maple
Ah
I was gonna open both my chosen BiS (since both Jobs have multiples) and see what they have in common
brave maple
MCH has 3
boreal edge
3 depending on sks tier
brave maple
Bingo
boreal edge
i say better stick with 2.49 one
brave maple
I'm a MCH main who is getting frustrated and looking at the dark side π
....well BRD main in ARR then MCH main since HW XD
brave maple
playing MCH at 100+ ping XD
boreal edge
@brave maple well i used to play it on 150ms
especially hw
doubleweaving was annoying
before i went to EU at 3.55 and my life changed alot
with 65ms
brave maple
well, HW wasn't so strict with latency for MCH XD
yah I had 20ms ping then the servers moved and I got to 120ms XD
boreal edge
you still doubleweave like crazy in it
SB mch replaced piano playstyle at HW with fitting 6 GCDs in OH
split falcon
high ping in hw mch was 1000% less punishing then it is now
hw mch in general was less punishing, SB mch isnβt super difficult but itβs not forgiving so if you fuck up then you really have to put work in to compensate
blazing pelican
!whologs @blazing pelican
storm frostBOT
blazing pelican
Accidental orange on O7S 
dull radish
nice <3
lyric tinsel
!whologs @lyric tinsel
storm frostBOT
zinc vortex
pet
lyric tinsel
sniff
dull radish
/soothe
lucid karma
!whologs @lucid karma
storm frostBOT
lucid karma
huh I expect O7S clear log way worse
lucid karma
I think I know problem why I didn't really get clear
overall dps way too low
half of us are green and higher, while another half just staggering grey
and WHM doesn't have good uptime
sullen sable
grats!
lucid karma
thank you
dull radish
now time to go clear 8~
scenic patrol
Grats
Now start to learn how to greed it
I fucking love greeding second pads set as melee/tank
Although I have yet to beat my first clear
dull radish
What was fun was adjusting to do 3x panels in last phase when a melee managed to die haha
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
At least I managed to beat my O5S and O6S clears this week
dull radish
I haven't beaten my best O5S no-AST run in two months
For boss or add damage
But yeah, I'm not saying that it's bad
Just, I wouldn't consider godly
scenic patrol
Hopefully I'll be able to raid on all raid days this reset
But the guy who does the work shifts put me in a day I didn't give for work
So either I go work late or I miss 2 hours of raiding
Sunday he may do that again
Since it's next week
And I'll have my shifts for next week only on Thursday/Friday
spice comet
So idk if its a question here but my tanks dps in o7s was lower yday can any1 take a quick look n tell me y i dont get tanks https://www.fflogs.com/reports/jFRbGPAHcv2aYVTJ#fight=9&type=damage-done
We did do some intense focus on clean mechanics so could be they forgot some buttons..... 
π¦
scenic patrol
Who's add bitch?
scenic patrol
Grabbing add
spice comet
Same pld
Idk if it matters our war has been trying the strat during airforce to pull boss near a plane nw or ne and decimate (i think thats the skilk name)
dull radish
Efficiency~ <3
spice comet
Its just im wondering y theyre blue normally they purple
woeful prawn
yeah best way to get clear is pushing tanks and healers more @lucid karma
spice comet
They have diamond weps, pretty close to 370 iirc
scenic patrol
Oh
woeful prawn
usually healer combined is missing 2k and tanks missing 1k. sone cases even more
spice comet
Im not sure if they miss a skill yea
spice comet
Or some uptime cause normally they can be greedy with me healing mistake but the mindset was a clean ass run so no mech issues
scenic patrol
Should be more than 95%
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
Storm's Eye
spice comet
Ohhhh
spice comet
Gotcha is that the missing 300 or theres more?
scenic patrol
Oh my fucking God
dull radish
But it's not great
scenic patrol
He doesn't Upheaval outside of IR
spice comet
I dont get it
paper torrent
WHAT IS THAT
scenic patrol
paper torrent
DISGUSTING
paper torrent
PURGE THE SINNERS
scenic patrol
Doesn't matter, tell him to fucking read a guide
Because he doesn't use Upheaval outside of IR
spice comet
Wait so is that the real dps lost
scenic patrol
It's quite fucking big
spice comet
!action upheaval
storm frostBOT
spice comet
π€
scenic patrol
Are very fucking important
dull radish
Both of those are moderate losses by themselves
scenic patrol
Upheaval is 50% more gauge efficient than FC
lucid karma
upheaval and onslaught can be used outside IR now
dull radish
And I'm sure if they're not doing those correctly, there's more things too
That add up as well
scenic patrol
Rika, those small things add up very quickly
dull radish
I know
scenic patrol
Especially Upheaval and Eye Uptime
dull radish
I purposely said moderate losses that add up
sage nymph
Have you talked to your PLD also, if you're worried about rDPS.
dull radish
Don't need to reclarify with what I say, like I'm wrong haha
scenic patrol
My kill time was 2 minutes more than yours, but I had more than triple the amounts of Upheavals
paper torrent
You don't lose 300dps
scenic patrol
Man, I would love to cut my log to same kill time as his
scenic patrol
Nah
boreal edge
it takes little math to find out that upheavel outside IR is wise usage of beast guage
scenic patrol
Link him this shit
It also naturally lines up with IR
If used on CD after opener
boreal edge
fc is 520 pot and lower infuriate cd by 5 secs and cost a gcd iirc
if we say 1 beast guage = 11.4 pot worth of fc
add to it 5 secs lowered by fc usage on infuriate
boreal edge
43.3 / 50
lucid karma
while fell is gcd
boreal edge
so total pot per 1 beast guage on fc
is around 12.2 pot
in other hand
upheavel without its hp buffs
does 300 pot on 20 beast guage cost
thats 15 pot per 1 beast guage
add to it fc is gcd too
upheavel isnt
scenic patrol
Another thing about Warrior, it's okay to greed paths
If you need to refresh Eye in 7 seconds, you will not overcap in those 7 seconds with the use of OS/Upheaval if they are off CD or you cannot overcap anyhow in those 4 GCDs
You do Path instead of Eye
Gauge needs to be 60/80
Depending on if you have Up/OS to burn some
Losing Eye for one GCD is also okay if that nets you 10 more gauge
It's neutral
sour solstice
Hello johni
scenic patrol
Heyo
spice comet
And yea im wondering what my pld is doing too
He has gotten purple prev runs
Idk if its a forgot buttons thing
scenic patrol
I am not as in depth about PLD as I can about Warrior
spice comet
Or did he do what the war did and needs less fc more upheavels 
zinc vortex
so does every class tbh
dull radish
only 8 uses of fight or flight in an almost 10m long fight seems incorrect, it's a 60s cd
scenic patrol
Probably delayed those because he's add bitch
scenic patrol
storm frostBOT
spice comet
Huh
scenic patrol
Basically Berserk for PLD
sour solstice
God damn that lasts a long time
spice comet
!action requiecat
storm frostBOT
spice comet
π€
scenic patrol
Requiscat is pretty much IR equivalent
spice comet
Like press that on cd?
dull radish
they only got 7 req in the fight
as well
basically you just rotate between FoF and req windows
vital cypress
I should figure out where my missing SMN damage is
paper torrent
A K H M O R N
sour solstice
Just ask the clowns
dull radish
more uptime, more buttons
scenic patrol
Uptime and not delaying buffs
spice comet
Hmmm let me pull his purple
dull radish
like I was just comparing to my static WAR that went PLD this week, since I'm lazy and I knew kill time was around the same
and there was pretty big disparity in like, overall GCDs
scenic patrol
Delaying buffs is only okay if you know for a fact you won't lose casts
dull radish
well, that's not strictly always true either, but it's generally true yeah
spice comet
Did he do better here?
scenic patrol
It's true for Warrior and Paladin
spice comet
For pld
dull radish
about he same
spice comet
Wut y is that purple just comp and buff?
scenic patrol
Then delaying is optimal
dull radish
he was a bit better with using goring blade a bit more
and a few other GCD
but still missing out on a lot
scenic patrol
Things to check on PLD logs
Goring Uptime
Req/FoF casts
CoS + Spirits casts
scenic patrol
Aye
spice comet
Okay so pld same thing just buttons and more buttons
So my war is saying fc is better
Ovee upheavel?
Cause low on hp?
scenic patrol
He's wrong
spice comet
Does that matter?
scenic patrol
Matter little
spice comet
Do i need him to be topped or something?
scenic patrol
As long as he's above 1 HP Upheaval is more gauge efficient
It only matter in Kefka and Alte Roite
So yes, he's wrong
spice comet
The other thing is he said back in delta fc over upheavel
scenic patrol
And in Kefka I start my IR a GCD earlier to not lose Upheaval damage
spice comet
Apparently wars got orange in that?
scenic patrol
Idgaf about Delta
spice comet
With moar fc?
scenic patrol
Delta Warrior is not the same thing as current Warrior
spice comet
Hmm i c
scenic patrol
Also at 1 HP it's damage natural to FC
Since it's the same potency as Onslaught
And Onslaught spam is damage natural to FC dump focus
spice comet
So what r all upheavel places
And fc spots?
Just to know when both r used to max dps
scenic patrol
Only time you delay Upheaval is if you have less than 22 seconds until next IR
Or in Kefka
lucid karma
Taking a big dump is what WAR excels at
paper torrent
W E W
spice comet
sour solstice
Yup
Im too stupid to heal
Once i hit 70 imma bash a target dummy for like 20 minutes
I think i can link that
boreal edge
scenic patrol
Got 51 percentile first clear
scenic patrol
Godka is weird in that way
boreal edge
i375 wep would get me to 6000+ dps alone
scenic patrol
Also fuck big trine
wet stag
@scenic patrol you cleared godka already?
scenic patrol
Nope
wet stag
Also I yoinked diamond pants today
scenic patrol
Past Forsaken 3 is the best I got
wet stag
Damn
scenic patrol
So unlikely to clear this reset
wet stag
We weren't able to clear godka tonight for weekies, and Friday raid is cancelled
So unlikely I'll clear godka this week bc I cbf to pug it
scenic patrol
Pugging is a scary thought now
dull radish
pugs can be pretty fun, lot of unique and interesting strats
wet stag
It's only when you pug when you really start to appreciate your ninja
Rika
JP has 2 strats
Bc macros
dull radish
oh yeah
dang
that's a shame
that's half the fun of pugging
all the weird stuff folks come up with
scenic patrol
I like when everything clicks together
dull radish
oh yeah? What would you swap to?
wet stag
Im learning how to play smn
sour solstice
dull radish
so close <3
wet stag
It's been there for months
Haven't bothered finishing it
Triple flare migbt bring me back tho
dull radish
quad Flare with max ether <3
penta flare if you can get another caster to mana shift you <3
wet stag
Now then the question is is hexaflare possible
sour solstice
my blm friend got a quadraflare +double foul on the pug pack in ala mihgo
like 15k dps or some shit
dull radish
you'd need another caster for any more Flares before having to go into UI
wet stag
Yeah that's what I'm thinking
sour solstice
true
dull radish
better that giant pull in temple of the fist
wet stag
I should probably bring smn into expert roulette to practice lol
dull radish
stuff's dead by the time you're done with your AF haha
wet stag
I've just been practicing the opener
sour solstice
Theres a giant pull in temple of the fist?
wet stag
Shits hard to wrap ur head around lol
steady pebble
yeah
unreal flax
Hey buttcuddlers. Someone carry me through O7S. Gimme that Duty Complete flag. I can do Kefka myself.
dull radish
it's so satisfying
steady pebble
You can do the first pull from start to the first boss
ez pz
if...the tank/healer can handle it lul
wet stag
Too bad it's synced to 340 now
wet stag
Skalla is amazing for drk
dull radish
just single target down wall so you can keep pulling <3
wet stag
Bw Quietus <3
dull radish
some of the fractal pulls can be real nice
wet stag
Yeah
dull radish
and I guess that second to last hell's lid pull
wet stag
Everything after the first boss
dull radish
if the tank actually does it
wet stag
I always pull wall to wall lol
steady pebble
I hate that second to last pull with the pepsi man
because either i've got double melee or the ranged/caster doesn't lb
wet stag
Lol
dull radish
I had someone yelling at me to LB that pack haha
wet stag
Kael
dull radish
I was doing quad flare double foul -> LB
wet stag
You haven't lived until you play drk, pull that entire pack, drop grit, ld bw quietus dadp
It's so good
steady pebble
I'm good with not living then π
wet stag
Lmao
sour solstice
that would mean leveling DRK
wet stag
Dropping grit on trash is amazing
sour solstice
which seems like a pain in the ass
wet stag
It's worth it for the job quests
But yeah I leveled drk a second time on my alt
Fuck that
steady pebble
yeah, i am leveling it thru fates/beast tribes etc
wet stag
!whoclasses @steady pebble
storm frostBOT
steady pebble
I am healer/smn casual main π
storm frostBOT
sour solstice
nice both of at 68 blm
wet stag
Lol
I ran sirensong as pld a while back
It wasn't as boring as I thought it'd be
It's just that running out of tp is such a meme
pure yoke
!whoclasses @pure yoke
storm frostBOT
sour solstice
NERD
steady pebble
mug is just dedicated
paper torrent
A dedicated NERDDDDD
steep iris
!whocrafters @pure yoke
storm frostBOT
steep iris
nerd
scenic patrol
!whogatherers @pure yoke
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
Ultra nerd
unreal flax
<3 Mug
dull radish
<3
unreal flax
Partially seriously, though. All of you pool your powers and help me beat up ED-209, so I can go poke Kefka.
dull radish
I have a lax raiding schedule this week haha, maybe trying to get weeklies on my alt, some kind of thing Friday with static probably (hopefully a trial or something but we've been having issues getting trials), and probably canceling Saturday raid haha
unreal flax
We'll see where my static gets today and then I'll look at Friday and Saturday.
heavy mist
you have a static? π
lyric kelp
yeah its him in the party finder
grizzled seal
!whologs @lyric kelp
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
Powerful Summoner
dull radish
so close to 95~
pure yoke
hi
sour solstice
hi mug
dull radish
heya
zenith swan
Not sure if this would even be put under endgame but I'm coming back after a few months off and wondering if the new relic weapons are out?
median kindle
first step is
zenith swan
Ah cool, how would I go about getting it?
zenith swan
Awesome, thanks
heavy mist
Oh nice
steady pebble
@scenic patrol did you ever see the cursed tank macros?
steady pebble
lol
wet stag
What cursed tank macro
wet stag
paper torrent
delet this
heavy mist
im just gonna say its bait
lucid karma
formatting way to good to be serious
paper torrent
r u sure about that
hybrid rapids
it's not
you can always use one only
from top to bottom
depends on which is on CD
also
the pinned message mitigation is wrong
on o7s
prey missile is Magical
slow missile is fixed Magical (can say darkness or whatever)
woeful prawn
we just call it prey and the burn is called burn
hybrid rapids
yea it's magical
that pinned message is very misleading
missing mitigation there might kill the person
should I unpin it lol
woeful prawn
i dont think slowboys are magical but i dont have an act log to fish up.
paper torrent
hybrid rapids
it's fixed magical
fixed as in %
but still magical
we usually call those fixed as
darkness type in english
Sigma Savage Text Guide by Kiri
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/7v57to/omega_sigmascape_savage_text_guides/
i think this is more helpful
Kiri written a lot tips there
which is very helpful
dull radish
man, folks are never gonna get past calling it darkness damage
hybrid rapids
i think act didn't record it as magical
dull radish
I wonder where the term first popped up
dull radish
breath~
hybrid rapids
since some is fixed physical or magical
hahahah
breath is the data mined name
type 6
dull radish
yeah
dull radish
I dunno like
darkness sounds cool for the unofficial name honestly
but I like the actual name for it
even though it's weird to think of non-breath abilities as "breath" type
hybrid rapids
idk where it came from but since gordias it's there
steady pebble
didn't darkness dmg pop up in HW or do i just not recall seeing it in ARR?
dull radish
it was in ARR
steady pebble
hm
dull radish
just it wasn't something folks paid much attention to
it wasn't until fflogs in HW where people started paying more attention to that sort of stuff
hybrid rapids
SE seems like using it as punishment of failing mechanic now
steady pebble
ahh
hybrid rapids
instead of un-avoid-able one
so luckily prey isn't darkness ;-;
unmitigated prey is like 14~16k per tick
and it comes with raid wide aoe usually (except biblio first
dull radish
oh that reminds me
I just did 5-7 on my alt with a group
and I forgot surecast in 7 until the last second during the countdown
thought I got it in time
but instead it only registered me removing a cross role
not adding surecast back in
so I had to get knocked back into corner haha
grizzled seal
painful
dull radish
I'm usually the one to remind folks about cross roles, too
dull radish
well to be fair I got used to using surecast in 6 anyways
because skipping plane for earthquake
hybrid rapids
tank usually pull to center
dull radish
earthquake does too much damage and interrupts
so I just keep surecast for 6 now too on my main
but not gonna count on pugs for it haha, so I hop into plane like usual on my alt
dull radish
pretty much yeah
all I need to skip airplane and just eat earthquake in 6 is manaward and some kind of shield, from healer or tank
or I guess maybe apoc if second caster, but I'd never expect that haha
dull radish
I dunno, altogether it's pretty lethal along with the damage from fire, even with water buff
I can barely live it sometimes in BiS with food + ward + benison
so I usually want a bit more than benison
DRK makes it cozy, TBN is lovely for that
hybrid rapids
heavy mist
bam broken
sullen sable
lmao
heavy mist
or give scourge back. but dunno how that was since i nev er played DRK in HW
sullen sable
people mostly miss the animation tbh
heavy mist
oh
heavy mist
what was it
sullen sable
heavy mist
o bby
sullen sable
around 0:49 for the animation without bullshit effects lmao
heavy mist
that is some SICK animation tho
sullen sable
yeah
wet stag
Imo scourge was dumb
heavy mist
that is why i played DRK in the first place
dull radish
had an interesting sound effect too
wet stag
Just a button you press every 30s
wet stag
Like cool
sullen sable
iunno, dots intrinsically make you think about phase changes and add uptime
heavy mist
#makeitintocombolikepld
sullen sable
it's not much but it's something
heavy mist
146 incoming
wet stag
You'd still want it to be up as much as possible
sullen sable
ofc
wet stag
It really doesn't make a difference
Just push it 30s
Makes gameplay more annoying if anything
sullen sable
but if you knew the boss was gonna go immune soon, you'd have to do some quick math to see if it was worth reapplying or not
heavy mist
mafs
sullen sable
(until you optimize obv)
wet stag
I mean for optimization you can control how many bs you use to end on a souleater
sullen sable
yeah
sullen sable
tru
wet stag
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
And you're not as pressured to use bloodspiller as you are scourge
Idk personally I'm glad scourge is gone
Was the same as phlebotomize
sullen sable
yea i can see those not being as meaningful now
tho
phleb would stop the chaos thrust clip lol
wet stag
CT used to be 28 yeah?
scenic patrol
I don't mind combo finisher with dots
CT was used every 2nd rotation
Which should be the same as now
wet stag
Yeah
scenic patrol
Just now there's 5th combo finisher
scenic patrol
Phleb was used after CT
wet stag
Oh right
scenic patrol
Since you want it to be snapshotted after Disembowel
I hated 2 things about HW DRG:
Too many GCDs
Stupid shit like the ability that buffs your next dive
I would probably give DRG another try if the PvP combos were implemented in PvE
sullen sable
drg was the most fun job for me before i stopped :o
if you played it right, everything just fit together perfectly
felt cozy
grizzled seal
hw drg was very cozy
storm frostBOT
Analysis complete for Faye Midpearl
wet stag
7/9 
grizzled seal
!xivanalysis omega alys oakshield
storm frostBOT
grizzled seal
.
scenic patrol
sullen sable
!xivanalysis coeurl virsath baruf
storm frostBOT
Analysis complete for virsath baruf
sullen sable
..
wet stag
Powerful
wet stag
Before echo iirc
heavy mist
ah okay
heavy mist
i mean it should still be relevant unless they put echo or make it possible to unsync
which i highly doubt
wet stag
My guess is it'll stop being relevant when Ultima comes out
Bc it's no longer the "current tier"
heavy mist
but its still relevent since it doesnt get easier
except some Eureka pieces
which dunno how much difference that is
steady pebble
haveta ask eanae about that
steep iris
i've finally graduated from grey in god
now I'm a green boi
could've gotten a 50% if I didn't die to 4th forsaken safe quadrant >.>
lucid karma
I like how there's my WAR log on rabanastre where it isn't any relevant to endgame
but someone uploaded it because why the fuck not
steady pebble
some ppl parse everything and upload everything
lucid karma
also all those sub 3k dps
I want to die
and ofc worst DPS was SAM
who'd have guess
stable basin
Usually either the SAM carries the party or the party carries the SAM, seems to be how it turns out
You rarely seem to see in between
I see a lot of really low dps SAMs and I see a lot of 5K+ ones
unreal lance
All I see in SAM is a handicap
torn kindle
βΏ SAM MAIN COMIN THROUGH βΏ
delicate yacht
Question about raiding....
I want to start raiding soon. Pretty new at it. I have i354 monk and Sam. I320whm. What sort of schedule/hrs a week do most raid teams raid for? I can devote about 3 hrs a week, one night a week to raiding. Should I even bother? Most of what I've heard says I'd need like three days of 3hrs each day.
hybrid rapids
Depends on
heavy mist
depends on who u find
hybrid rapids
Casual / Mid-core / Hard-core
heavy mist
1 day is a bit rough
delicate yacht
Is part time raiding a thing?
hybrid rapids
3 hours a week is casual
paper torrent
3 hours is 100% casual
paper torrent
You can only raid on your MNK
hybrid rapids
you should do PUG instead
paper torrent
Whm is way too low
delicate yacht
Would I be able to accomplish decent amount of content you think?
hybrid rapids
instead of finding a static
paper torrent
Probably not anything past o6s
delicate yacht
Yeah I can craft i350 items for my whm.
paper torrent
Possible, but not probable
heavy mist
3 hrs a week u could probably get the first 2 done within a reasonable time
paper torrent
Maybe with a static? I doubt it but possible maybe
delicate yacht
Yeah I co run a FC, and craft for my FC and do alot of projects, while trying to make Gil, seems like there's never enough hrs in a day to play lol
paper torrent
O7S is a fucking comms check
heavy mist
yeah if u devote a lot of time to crafting
its gonna be rough time wise
could always just tone it down
if u wanna raid
paper torrent
Raiding in PF is gay
heavy mist
I dont think your FC would kill u
paper torrent
Would not recommend
delicate yacht
Yeah I prob devote 10+hrs week to making Gil crafting.
heavy mist
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paper torrent
Is there a specific reason you want to start raiding now?
lucid karma
static is real meta
delicate yacht
I might try some PUG to get practice in, before trying to get a casual static going.
paper torrent
It's super fucking late in the tier
paper torrent
No one sane is recruiting for o5s or o6s
delicate yacht
Well, I sort of hit my goals as far as helping out friends, housing and MSQ
paper torrent
Imo i would say wait next tier
heavy mist
Id say if u wanna mess around with tier to ask FC/Friends
paper torrent
You're a crafter anyway combat gear means jack shit
heavy mist
and bring u into o5s
delicate yacht
If there any raid rewards that I couldn't get from eureka? I need to start that also.
heavy mist
Yes the Diamond Gear
which Eureka will catch up to eventually
You also can get Air Force Mount
delicate yacht
Ooo air Force mount is cool. I'd like that.
heavy mist
Eureka might be a good idea if u wanna chill
since tons of people are doing it right now
and NM train still alive and kicking
delicate yacht
It just seems like everyone talks about how fun raids are. I've done some extreme fights, but no savage fights. It didn't seem that fun
boreal edge
eurekalived longer than i expected
delicate yacht
Unless savage is a LOT funner?
heavy mist
well its depends on how u see it
its just fun to do the mechanics sometimes
and test your self
paper torrent
Savage is only fun if you care about getting good and bis
boreal edge
ppl see challenge fun and ppl see punching dummies is fun
heavy mist
its definitely harder than Extreme
boreal edge
its matter of taste
delicate yacht
I love running ex fights for ponies, birbs. Hopefully it's fun like that
boreal edge
if challenge isnt something you like just skip savage
delicate yacht
@paper torrent ahh I see
boreal edge
you will get same ilvl as savage in catch up patch after all
heavy mist
id say to do Eureka
paper torrent
Stick to your primal farms.
delicate yacht
I guess I'm weighing the pros and cons, rewards versus time spent to decide if raiding is worth it.
paper torrent
You seem like a person who enjoys stuff outside of raiding
boreal edge
it has strongest gear in the game atm
paper torrent
More so than the experience of raiding itself
boreal edge
so it definity worth it
lucid karma
you can clear everything without having raid gear so there's that
delicate yacht
@paper torrent yeah I do a little bit of everything, just don't wanna Miss out on a different part of the game I haven't tried yet
paper torrent
Imo savage isn't worth it unless you really want to be challenged
Savage is a fucking shitshow
heavy mist
and farm for mounts and minions that way
delicate yacht
Thanks all. I'm going to try some PUG learning parties. :)
heavy mist
mkay
lucid karma
want to be challenged
yeah but I'm also mentally challenged
paper torrent
Same thing
lucid karma
listening to how we gonna do O8S makes my brain hurt
paper torrent
Challenge the fact that I'm mentally challenged
boreal edge
there are 3 kinds who do raids
1- those who wanna get better
2-those who want loot
3-those who like challenge
zinc vortex
boreal edge
ultimate is same but remove num2
paper torrent
Number 2 usually is tied with 1 tho
lucid karma
well excuse me
paper torrent
Cause numbers lul
heavy mist
well Ultimate u do get loot
paper torrent
It's just a glowy weapon
paper torrent
Shiny
lucid karma
I hate how omega gears so far don't look very interesting
paper torrent
HOLY FUCK YES.
lucid karma
gordian weap tho
"here we put big fucking crystal on your weapon"
"and some glow"
"now smack some bitches with it"
storm frostBOT
paper torrent
Look at this fucking monster
heavy mist
hmm its okay?
lucid karma
most axes are unwieldy anyway
then again most weapons are like that, as MMO tradition
paper torrent
Sigh stop making shit models yoship
paper torrent
Crafter meta
lucid karma
wait, then how would AST anima without glow operate
paper torrent
We raiding monkies are screeching about enrages and class balancing
lucid karma
since the glow makes most of its core parts
paper torrent
When it's the crafters who always win
zinc vortex
^
last geode
hot plover
azure hill
To give you a general idea, both raid tiers in Stormblood were completed on the first day
UCoB took several weeks
vital cypress
which should tell you how bad you are when you can't clear in i360-something gear 
azure hill
The people streaming their day one attempts sat for ten hours and could barely get past the first minute
It's "easier" now that the full strategy is known, but you still need a dedicated skilled group willing to sink weeks or months into it
I saw a post on the sub the other day where people estimated that 2000 people in total have cleared it worldwide
spice comet
World first was weeks, the top hc raiders i knew like orange and 99 on delta barely got through ucob and that took close to 2 months
On the top in delta and they were close to 30-40 percentile with their ucob clears goes to show shits rly hard
azure hill
Another thing to note is that attrition is deliberately a part of the design here
O4S/O8S have checkpoints to give people a break
UCoB is practically a "fuck you" from the designers after people called them out for not making hard content
It's designed to exhaust you
sullen sable
Good fight π
spring dock
what kinda dps should I be doing on o7 as a pld to not be considered a liability
Only hit enrage once so I just want to know what I should be aiming for in practice
azure hill
I think if you can do in the ballpark of 3700-3800 you're fine
sullen sable
We cleared with our pld doing 3300. Pretty shitty gear and a death
sullen sable
31k? Around that
spring dock
3500 seems doable to me but above that might be hard
sullen sable
sullen sable
Yeah we killed as enrage casted
wet stag
i can get 3.9k on drk
zinc vortex
same here, killed 7s as enrage cast
but that was uh, week 4 i think?
was an interesting week
lucid karma
at least both of your healers are 2k
azure hill
I kind of like it when your first kill is during enrage
It adds an extra degree of excitement to it
zinc vortex
yeah i've been carried by my healers in pretty much all my kills
lucid karma
press every button possible
dull radish
my SCH tends to play way too safe for prog haha
to be fair, covering for some other folks' mistakes to keep us alive, but still
zinc vortex
uwu
im really hoping to get some good weeklies next week now that i got the weapon
which means im no longer on 700 crit 
sullen sable
dull radish
having crit is nice <3
I finally managed to beat my O5S run from like two months ago, shame it wasn't by much, but I also didn't get much AoE in
azure hill
Crit makes it annoying to be bard this tier
zinc vortex
ah yeah i got 3 bests for weeklies this week
on 5s, 7s and god kefka
the last one not being that surprising considering it was only my 2nd kill
azure hill
I still have a 350 body since the substats for non-Diamond stuff are awful
I don't want to lose 200 crit 
sullen sable
azure hill
I could theoretically get the Eureka one, but that's skill speed and det iirc
zinc vortex
20 item levels of DEX, despite losing 200 crit should be worth it right?
if not please correct me
azure hill
It probably is, yeah
zinc vortex
actually don't correct me i'll feel stupid for getting the 340 chest piece in deltascape before i got the genji armor
azure hill
I barely got back over 2500 and I don't want to lose it again 
dull radish
2500 crit is cozy crit <3