#endgame-lounge
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What am I looking at here?
odd-eyed BLM miqote standing out in africa with only 37k HP is what I've gotten so far
I've never broken a tether
this is why I don't ds pug caster/ranged in pf
but have barely ever gotten one
I could be standing on top of a DRG for an entire encounter
and they just never give it to me
sometimes don't even use it at all
and I'm like, hmmm
remember release tether that was just as long as stock laptop charger chord length
If Dragon Sight was a skill in ARR you'd probably lose the buff entirely if the tether was broken.
Absolutely.
what is the BiS for WHM currently?
Hmm. How much ilvl equivalent is a 5% echo boost worth with 340 gear?
ouch
what stats should i stack for healer?
determination?
or mind
Around 43K
yeah
you can get by with less, more is cozy
if you're progging just go full VIT meld
no reason not to
~43600 with food should be okay
was wondering if it'd be worth swapping the VIT meld on one of my accessories with a crit or something
or alternately switching to a vitality meld on the one accessory i have melded with +crit
that's ok
though if you're still progging just go full vit <3
secondaries give so little and surviveability is nice

that's about what I figured!
also, I was pushing into Above-Average DPS territory on O7S earlier
i was so excited about this that I, uh, used my AF stacks when I had Bahamut ready to go.
Then I wasn't.
I started learning SMN a little
I dunno if I'm actually gonna take it into any actual content
it just doesn't feel as good as BLM to me
but it's pretty interesting to optimize
a bit yeah
though when you get used to it, it's not bad
it's mainly remembering that I need to properly do the opener haha
then everything else just kinda feels right
I have yet to hear up my SMN
outside of fight optimization
don't doxx me please
though I wanna be close because I like raid buffs
tempted to put /hug back on my AM and eat the clip
You fucking stack with the party in savage
no cast time
people are bad haha
I like imtimately knowing cure 3 range
is cozy
still not used to being in range for AST stuff yet
whole tier without needing that consideration
Hi
just get in the star
otherwise AST aoe heals are umm
standard 15 yalm radius
if you are in range of medica
you will be in range for their other stuff
I've honestly like
called out in voice
that I'm sad I'm missing the star but I'm missing it
most times I get it
but some times I just, can't unless I wanna take decent loss
everytime you miss ES, you make an ast cry 😭
I make sure to get important ones usually <3
or manaward otherwise
rather take personal clip than cost GCD
how the raid life going Rika?
umm
unfortunate, a bit
only 1 day of raid this week, still recruiting
alt still random pugs
at least I get weeklies on main but yeah
we haven't even really had a trial yet for replacement static member for past two weeks >.>
I just wanna raid haha
rip
My friend and I decided to pretty much take a break from savage
I won't go on without her so eh if that's the tier that's the tier
good for you guys
If i want to bash my head into things I've got Shinryu lol
... plus since I do green based glam most of the time the Shin Ex weapons are practically my endgame
Btw 350/355 for Shin Ex... Too high or pure sanity?
there's no such thing as too high ilvl
you should be at least i363 to farm zurvan
zurvan does benefit more than most from a really high ilvl though
if you go 1-1-6 with 330+, it becomes a relaxing cakewalk for the most part
less, and you have to deal with tether meteors, which in a pug practically make shin ex mechanics seem fair
Yeah but pretty much any time a fight has a mechanic where an entire PUG has to do the things properly as individuals, the wipe rate ... er ... I was going to try to avoid saying it, but ... soars
pretty sure you can spaghetti zurvan hard nowadays and still clear
I mean it doesn't even matter if the mechanic is easy
Viz. Maiden of Vigilance in WoW
considering we still took a vuln stack or two in sales and was still ok
it's probably the simplest fight in the whole expansion and people wipe on it more than almost any other
half-brain PF (requiring half brain), you can power through
precisely because it has a personal responsibility mechanic on everyone
less than that, good luck
chaos unsync operates on a different power level
expect 1100 dps on rdm in full 330 340
tanks that don't do ready checks before countdown ree
at least there's the countdown
had too many tanks just kinda sprint in (not even toma/shield lob/unmend)
then just be like, hey guys I pulled
I don't like the thought of that
Should I use Excog to mitigate tankbusters more than Adlo?
What with Excog being 800 potency of mitigation, and Adlo being 300-600, with a mana cost
It mitigates the cleanup work though
Or Ruin II
no ruin II
Still not entirely comfortable with Miasma II's mana cost
don't use ruin II at least you're forced to
I feel like I run dry very fast if I use M2 for my weaving as compared to R2
Sorry >.>
Is there any way to reduce how much mana I bleed with M2 for my weaving? I know Adlo/Physick let me weave an oGCD in, but that's not a perfect solution
miasma II is a instant gcd
so you can weave afterwards
be sure to stay on top of aetherflow
llucid also
excog isn't a mitigating shield but it will make the clean up work easier
it's not easy to run out MP as a SCH
as long as you don't keep casting adlo or succor
Right, I know Excog doesn't mitigate the damage, just makes the cleanup much easier if the tank can survive the damage
Also, when should I use Energy Drain as compared to Excog/Lustrate?
phsyic is totally fucking uselses
it's so inefficent
so that weaving is kinda... meh
It's one of the least mana-intensive spells you have as a SCH though, no?
PING
Sorry, I'm just having a touch of trouble understanding some of this stuff, and I'm not sure if it'll suddenly click at 68 or what
So you don't really get a taste of endgame SCH until 68 when you get quickened aetherflow
basically you should rely on offglobal heals as much as possible
I think I've got a general handle on cooldown usage. Pop WD when sustained damage is coming out to alleviate pressure everywhere, use Excog to prep for tank damage, Sacred Soil for boss ults
_>
General, not mastery 😛
Don't do that last one unless you aren't sure you'll live
Ah, NN has deceived me once again >.>
So pretty much just take SS off my bar and do Deployed Adlo for most of my AoE mitigation purposes?
Sacred Soil should be used for hard hitting aoe attacks
like, really hard
like WTF hard
like a tank buster but it hit the party
Like Sus EX Ukehi waves? (Speaking from some of the higher stuff I did on RDM)
similar, Sacred gets most of its work in Savage and some EX modes
think more like Light of Judgement, Exdaddy's Meteor, Neo's Almagest
Haven't had the opportunity to experience those, since I haven't been on my RDM since I came back about a week ago
Sorry for ping in kupo channel, just curious what your char looks like
!whologs @blazing pelican
Astrologian: (948/8619) [2141.19 DPS] [92.9 Historical] [7:06]
Scholar: (1214/12147) [2720.73 DPS] [93.1 Historical] [6:34]
Scholar: (435/11591) [3150.45 DPS] [98.3 Historical] [7:35]
White Mage: (4183/13496) [2112.34 DPS] [76.3 Historical] [8:31]
Scholar: (237/8687) [3122.21 DPS] [96.8 Historical] [9:20]
Scholar: (167/6837) [3052.78 DPS] [97.2 Historical] [5:56]
Scholar: (483/4877) [2489.44 DPS] [90.2 Historical] [9:21]
I had no doubts about his info being valid, ofc
I just wanted to see what his char looked like 😛
Inspiration for healer glams, that sort of thing
my glamour is pretty basic except for the fact that my shirt is Jet Black and is also the Thav sweater
Like I said, it's a nice look ^.^
your costs can be ruinous. hell I'm BiS and I can come very close to OOM in Godka
oh yeah
you shouldn't be constantly using it tho
Yeah, just for important oGCDs
still worse than Broil II
only use it if
A) you need to double weave
B) You have to run away
if you only need to use one oGCD, you can just clip it off Broil II
the animation for most stuff is pretty short
True, I just feel that twinge of failure when I have to clip the global
Lv.63
I've assumed you're Lv.70 when asking in end-game...
if only leveling just keep everyone alive and you're good
and i never did SCH synced Lv.60 nor Lv.50 so don't know how much changes compared to previous Lv.50 or Lv.60 when relevant
Glamour plates, no?
yeah but it would be much nice if its possible to save the glamour setting to gear sets
You can use macros to apply a certain plate when switching jobs
and that's pretty much the only way you're gonna get that, because glamours are gear-bound
About that
If you macro a glamour plate as part of a gearset
Does it apply the whole thing the same time it switches?
Whats bis for whm?
uh lemme grab it off the balance for ya
👍
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Stat totals are before food Whm, dh, 900 pie http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/158LV 12338047 damage Weapon: Byakurenge-Kai Head: dai-ryumyaku hitai-ate of healing Body: diamond robe of healing Hands: pair of diamond gloves of healing Waist: set of diamo...
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Thank you :)
do you ever bottom out with base piety
i understood piety in hw because holy shit stone is expensive
depends on fight and comp
@woeful prawn depends, I can get you certificated for glaucoma and get you stoned for free xD
guys, what is the best way to level up in eureka? I'm lvl 4
counterpoint: the balance 🤢
hmm?
@safe aspen follow the fate train
^ just afk with the game in windowed on the side
and join a group whenever a fate spawns
So if I've had bad luck pugging Sigmascape savage, am I best off just waiting for the next savage raid tier at this point? Haven't even gotten to clear Train despite getting to enrages tons of times
what job/role are you on
I mean you have, what, 4-5 months before omegascape hits?
4
new tier is the absolute best time to pug. but you can keep trying and build up experience and eventually clear o5. then you can join next week's 2 chest parties and get loot
we literally almost at 4.3
and then go train o6, train o7, and so on
better ask for clear even if u get only book out of it
Isn’t too late
As long as isn’t 4.4
It’s still relevant
But I don’t know the pug quality
Or if it’s pug-able
don't be greedy for that chest, better grab page for one week
And also depends on your own skill
Is there an ideal gathering or perception number that should be max so stuff isnt wasted?
I guess my question is
As in if you had all augmented ala mhigan and all vi materia, whats the most i should go in those two stats so i can worry about gp materia after
you’re the common factor in all of these failed runs
I’m not trying to blame you necessarily, but is it possible you’re messing up mechanics, or just not hitting BIG SOVIET DAMAGE numbers?
it depends on what you're aiming for, morazon. if you're looking for hq mats you want ti hit 1452 gathering, 1360 perceptions
if youre ok with nq mats, 1350 gathering, 1170 perception
or people are dying to lack of heals if you’re a healer?
Or...whatever the fail state is for tanks in savage?
Ok thanks so much kaelwryn, im writing those down now
if you run ACT that would tell a lot
probably easier to book mark these: cheap/nq materia melding http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/14YTY , expensive/hq http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/14YTJ
third party tools
also just going to mention that 4.3 is coming around soon
shhh
and we're likely going to get more gear with it so might want to hold off
like 5000 DPS will clear 5 and 6 comfortably if everyone else is doing decent work
yeah, thats my assumption as well but hard to say with certainity until we see the patch notes
Should i save the khloe gold marks for that gear then?
or 7 although it wouldn’t leave a ton of room for deaths or mistakes
On 9th
if it is accessories, I don't think they'll be added the khloe
iirc the ironworks accessories aren't available as a WT reward
Ok thanks for all the info seriously, i couldnt find a clear answer
we should get full new set
like ironworks were
to slave on crafting and gathering gear till 4.4
didn't they say ala mhigan would be the last crafting gear? 
wouldn't that mean 320 right side and off-hand next patch?
just assuming btw dont quote me on this
I still don't see us getting a whole new set
especially not at 4.3
for one we don't have 320 accessories
Tfw you had the ultimate bgm off because it makes your heart beating rate increasing like 1000x
Then there’s always someone in VC
With bgm on
So you literally listening to the bgm via VC
If you stable train your chocobo, can you alternate cheaper feed so you dont lose its favorite, but also not waste expensive feed?
TFW my last Hells Lid was Vote Abandoned after 4 wipes on the last boss because the Healer kept dying to the floor mechanic
whm was like
3.5k dps
I was like 4.5k dps
everyone else was sub 3k dps

I was warrior btw
😍
I like breaking 10k on that one trash pull after the first boss in Fractal HM
on Scholar
I have it set to split everything out
Couldn't answer until now smh, I main tank. Generally I only have to worry about CDs, connectivity, and the knock back ghost
Most recent run in PF we got to 2% and then 3dps and 1 healer ate it to tornados during head on
Why are there so many bad pugs lately
are you insisting on 2 chests/blocking people who've completed?
(assuming you're making the PF groups and not just joining them)
Healers... adjust?
Nah I'm not
Is there a dragoon rotation guide?
Not tanking the floor Guide: http://tinyurl.com/drgguide4-0
^^
thanks
no dont
The balance is so comfy tbh
Actually I haven't even done savage in a week and a half now
It's mostly Shin Ex pugs I've been rolling the dice on
hmm
I keep getting the ones that eke out an echo carry or two
Friends get up to 7 runs sometimes
I'm not sure how to attract the good groups more often (guessing it involves finding out what cookies the Spinner wants today aka luck)
ooooh that's a nice look
asks about shinyru but looks at susanos 
!item Shinryu's Codex
hah, once I almost told my friends to leave this Shinryu group we were in that wasn't filling to join another that had exactly spaces for us
... just before I did, I realized the other one was actually for Susano
I think Shinryu may have been eroding at my sanity, I took a break from it last night
Not so much the fight itself, but the matter of trying to PF it
I think I'm gonna try applying the "5 runs" approach to it
I really should go straight to Eureka after I do these Vath quests though
I'm like 300 mendacity off cap this week and it's Monday already O.o
😂

mmhmm
Is it really only 300 potency?
!action assize
!action Medica

I would respect it
Honest healer
if he dps'd the boss
Respect. The. Content.
How did he....
Even get to kefka
No srsly did their cohealer do like all the dps, orange dps for days? 
Is that a static
okay let's just say, we were practicing our first run
oh
we tried to see every mechanic
If you're in a group where all four DPS are doing 5k+, and both tanks are doing 3.5k+, you don't need to DPS as healer lol.
nice
OH
to focus on DPS
He was shit....before
I'm NIN
Whm 500
my first run
He was alrdy full honest
everyone's first tbh
try to see every possible mechanic
so we kinda focus on mechanic and not dying first
you dont learn to heal unless you murder with your lack of heals
^
^
anyway I'm looking forward to more wipe on wednesday
because our MT will be away
hopefully we can get our stand in MT's friend
good luck <3
I'm hoping we can at least start getting some decent folks to trial soon
I think we have short-term solution for weeklies at least
but one raid day a week is boring haha
oh I was picked up last tier by my static
I was always pug
so it happens
looking back then I'd stay grey shitter
if I still pug
i became purple when i joined a static
not that green is any better 
👌
!whologs @lucid karma
Ninja: (2611/8425) [4970.53 DPS] [70.1 Historical] [8:46]
Ninja: (4061/8123) [5342.48 DPS] [49.8 Historical] [9:30]
Ninja: (3822/5972) [4895.12 DPS] [36.7 Historical] [12:06]
5 is best for pugs <3 if you can get the clear, you get so much extra AoE
its okay to be gray
not dpsing hurts my soul
Idk my statics pretty good but it might be time to find a new one with war leaving, them being friends with the lead 
isnt the war the only one that sux
rip
oh boy
how shitty we're talking
tank stance in god even when he isn't tanking god
oh
MEMES
o h I remember you talked about him
Im so salty over it hes a literal meme
does indom's heal get boosted by tank stance/conva?
no, it's an ability
wow healing him before heartless archangel must suck
😂 😂 👌 yep indom doesnt boost

I hit enrage on train
Morning
good afternoon
ayyyy grats Yalia
Niiiiice. You got this.
nevermind the fact that it was a 30% enrage
whew
LOL
Lmao
God bless
Fucking wew


🤔
Hey Yalia, my group raids on Wednesdays, so if are okay with one chest and still need help, lemme know.
.1% enrage

sure
Oh, pfft, you got this
Oh, also, since you're raiding right now, our schedules likely don't actually line up often. I'm still at work for another like... five hours lmao
@scenic patrol @dull radish @sullen sable @sour solstice its fine i had o1s enrage at 33% its ok

I've seen some pretty beefy enrages before lol. O5S enrage at 29% is one of the highest I can remember.
That time i tried to prog ucob twin enrage 50%, we barely poked the boss 
that's impressive
We were on track for dps probably for the 1st min cause we skipped last twisty shit went downhill real fast
i could actually jump on and help right now
since i called in today on account of riding the vomit comet
though if I go AFK for 30 seconds mid-pull that's why
Yeah I've heard of some statics that don't even DPS bosses at all during initial prog unless they have to to push a phase
so they can learn all the mechanics first, then optimize
I'm still trying to figure out how someone is both online and "unable to retrieve" on my friends list atm
(they're a cross server person)
I'm guessing name changes don't update cross server friends properly, have to refriend?
@unreal flax ive got a pretty massive window for raiding so I should be good
Cool cool! Well, yeah, we can do some stuff.
Nadine, that sounds like ass to do
During prog I also figure out how my DPS rotation lines up
And that will split up prog into
1)mechanics
2)dps rotations
I see it as inefficient
Dps rotations only adjust so much for some fights
dry runs are a thing sometimes, if the situation really calls for it, but generally they don't
it takes a mechanic that your party just, literally cannot deal with, while pushing their dps buttons
We did that while we were learning long drop in o2s, but it was just that mechanic
This is why we need mid fight dps checks
To understand how it worked
Galaxy brain mechs gotta stop n think
For the fight
yeah
Dps wall 
That's my point, dps muscle memory is quite important in how things line up
With Nadines line of thinking we get shit dps rdms
Who can't move to a spot because practicing a fairly immutable rotation is hard
congrats <3 any chests?
Just remeber
👌
Grats!
Other healer was a little on the honest side
It's ok
So I got a fair bit of DPS
Truly
but I dont think it is
A run for the memes
Selene is fine for train
In o5s its ideal to use selene but im stuck with eos
Especially if your cohealer is honest
Memes too real
ah
You'll want Eos for the rest probably
Yea eos is better, train is so spacey on heals that selene is nice
Green parse

few deaths there

Yeah one of em was being full HP and dying to head on diabolic for some reason
grats fran
maybe Tetra didnt go off fast enough
16 casts per minute tho
better than my original 9
aim for 20+
so close
I didnt do the vit thing till god, but yea that head on was close
God has some spicy fucking AOE
!whologs @sour solstice
yeah

looks ok to me, perf % must be lower because skewed towards more people padding past two weeks maybe, with slightly higher overall percentile
Ohnvm, I thought Yalia's upload had 1200 dps or something
no, same dps
From that act log that was ctrl+v into this chat lol
tfw my kefka parses get shot down by like 10 percentiles 
too many good people cleared early

yeah i get taxed like 200+ on average
at the very least, would be nice if they approximated thunder a bit better in ACT
we'd still get taxed but not nearly as much
still think highest I've personally gotten was like 350 or so, probably partially because of damage down screwiness
But yeah im happy
They should just make 5% of brd and mch dps go to me
Im kinda surprised we got it with a couple of the dps on there
but w/e
Thanks for the carry mr bard
Now time for O6S <3
It's cozier and much more puggable than 5
oh ok
When u get down the mechs, o6s is the dummy fight
Aye
is it cause everybody else is a DUMMY? hahahahaha amirite fellow raiders high-five
Oh you cleared! Good shit, Yalia!
How's o4s compared to current tier now that we have better gear
Are you talking about difficulty between the tiers or are you thinking of going back to last tier to kill those fights again?
Cuz, O4S is still a moderately tough fight. It's very, very slightly easier than O7S IN MY OPINION. With today's gear, if you see enrage in O4S, there is a really, really big problem.
lol still gotta know what you're doing in that fight
Exactly.
No matter how hot your dips is, GCO will fuck ya team up and off the platform
Trying to pick a DPS class so I don't exclusively have tanks; is Bard messed up by high ping? (Mine's at like 117)
I don't know if I would call ~120 high ping but BRD definitely doesn't uniquely suffer from high ping.
OK cool. And idk, most people seem to regard >50 as high
*old man voice* BACK IN MY DAY WE ALL HAD 100 PING IF WE WERE LUCKY
ah yes
*swings cane in the air*
Mch just adjusts their opener with ping iirc
But wildfire memes
RDM doesn't suffer too much from ping unless it trails into packet loss territory and then becomes unplayable
That's easily testable as soon as you get it
RDM is the job that suffers the most from extreme ping
It's straight up unplayable above 250 ping
yep
My WAR is 332 right now
because I cant stand Eureka for more than an hour at a time
Holy shit
Honest SELENE scholar
10:13 kill 
Hily
yep
He overheals
Ignore my overheal plz
Its not my fault he topped people off when they had M2
He only had 24% on the kill
I had fuckin 60 LOL
What an honest healer
He has 5x times your heals
THAT SAM
HOLYSHITTTTT
GARBAGE
people can always parse lower than you expect
Isn't minimum for ninja likw
Remember
50 or something
That class is so braindead
No I'm misremembering nvm
Are the reason you fucking cleared
Litterally 3 people there with blues
me, the DRK and the BRD
everyone else was grey
my aero uptime was shit
I missed 1 assize cast
Like, way harder
That's pretty good tho
if you save it for the add shits
How's tetras
It's alright
I mean cleric stance does nothing p much
At least you ain't honest healer
It's more like an extra 1% overall because of its cds
our SAM was in a different discord call and didnt FUCKING LB
How many pulls did that cost us
12
it cost us
12 god damn pulls
it took us an extra hour
because the SAM didnt lb
10:29 AM instead of 11:34 AM
that wouldve been nice
Welcome to why people join statics
I mean tbf even if the Sam didn't lb one of the other dps shouldve
it was SMN
tbf if the BLM had done it it wouldve killed
since the SMN would have been able to cast
Maybe
Wow can i trade in this past hour for Master Alchemist II? :D
Or is this only NQ concentrated spirits of salt :(
mastercraft books require HQ
^ yes that
Hey Yalia, I'm home now. Need any help?
Nah im not running any more hard shit tonight
No worries!
I mean a lot of healing and not THAT much overheal
me: "ok buddy"
I'm checking clear pull tho
f
still bad
died to head on, TWICE
pretty sure the SAM just applied head-on nigh directly to the forehead and died to it a few times, if I recall from when I was looking earlier
bold strategy
LOL
oh wait he does
o shi-
yeah he died to remorse, then took 73k head-on
how does he die to head on anyway
then he learned a bit and moved a bit back, but still died to 44k head on
like, unless he's greeding
Almost
oh
literally no reason to at this point when he needs to learn how to not do 2.4k dps
feint AT COMPLETELY WRONG TIME
the fuck did he used feint on, at 5 minutes in
add?
...It is
used feint on Malice

did he die to the adds in that pull?
I remember there was a pull he died to add AoEs
We had like 5 wipes to the WAR failing the WAR strat
just the remorse and two head-ons that pull
This SAM is in farm parties now
and ended up clearing after saying fuck it
props to your team tho
God bless
I would've if it wasnt for the one .1% enrage
which wouldve been a win
IF THE FUCKING SAM LB'd
I would drop a GCD to put in mitigation on time if it’s necessary one
This SAM
I know it's thundercloud proc
makes me mad
Sometimes the sever side just stupid when you tried to weave oGCD mitigation in
yeah
!action higanbana
including when it dropped the divine and killed me
ah
only two shinten
only two guren
my brain hurts
it's another fucking midare factory
you might be right
is a little high
isn't yukikaze is like, to refresh DoT
LMAO
but it gives one seal, no?
it does
And look up logs
but look at his other seals
!action gekko

kupobot dead
F
anyway something isn't right
I'm not a SAM main but you should have an equal amount of all three combos?
he also doesn't know how to AoE apparently
also gj kupobot
oh thanks kupobot
but too late
I hate that nowadays if anyone joins anything as SAM
I will have that prejudice
that the SAM will be bad
I should play SAM more often, just to prove people wrong (or right, whatever, I don't fuckin know anymore)
play whatever you like
I mean
just, play it right
aint hard to top this guy
I play everything in melee range right. It's the other stuff that I'll kill you with.
yeah, spam ogcd and use convert seal to kenki
Pretty sure you can Midare Factory better
yuck
TBF, I only know the 3-sen opener. Which, is clearly more than this person.
at least you use 3-combo thing
it's the most powerful skill for SAm
when used with kenki convert
Midare? Yeah, it's pretty nice.
nah I mean uh...
Hagakure?
that one
SAM peanut butter
SAM Balance

















