#endgame-lounge

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woeful prawn
unreal flax
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What am I looking at here?

dull radish
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odd-eyed BLM miqote standing out in africa with only 37k HP is what I've gotten so far

sullen sable
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lmao

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dragon sight is broke

zinc vortex
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cant say im guilty of this havent had a dragoon since creator Thrinking

dull radish
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I've never broken a tether

pure yoke
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this is why I don't ds pug caster/ranged in pf

dull radish
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but have barely ever gotten one

pure yoke
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I don't trust pugs

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to stay close

dull radish
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I could be standing on top of a DRG for an entire encounter

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and they just never give it to me

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sometimes don't even use it at all

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and I'm like, hmmm

woeful prawn
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remember release tether that was just as long as stock laptop charger chord length

torn kindle
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If Dragon Sight was a skill in ARR you'd probably lose the buff entirely if the tether was broken.

zinc vortex
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i forgot dragon sight got buffed

unreal flax
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Absolutely.

lyric dawn
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what is the BiS for WHM currently?

stable basin
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Hmm. How much ilvl equivalent is a 5% echo boost worth with 340 gear?

red ibex
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so close

dull radish
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ouch

solid forge
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what stats should i stack for healer?
determination?
or mind

maiden iris
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Mind first

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Then Crit > Det > DH > SpS

vital cypress
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oh

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How much health does a caster need for O8S minimum

scenic patrol
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Around 43K

dull radish
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yeah

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you can get by with less, more is cozy

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if you're progging just go full VIT meld

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no reason not to

vital cypress
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~43600 with food should be okay

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was wondering if it'd be worth swapping the VIT meld on one of my accessories with a crit or something

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or alternately switching to a vitality meld on the one accessory i have melded with +crit

dull radish
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that's ok

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though if you're still progging just go full vit <3

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secondaries give so little and surviveability is nice

vital cypress
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that's about what I figured!

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also, I was pushing into Above-Average DPS territory on O7S earlier

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i was so excited about this that I, uh, used my AF stacks when I had Bahamut ready to go.

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Then I wasn't.

dull radish
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I started learning SMN a little

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I dunno if I'm actually gonna take it into any actual content

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it just doesn't feel as good as BLM to me

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but it's pretty interesting to optimize

scenic patrol
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It is weird to sit on Baha waiting for stacks

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Tbh

dull radish
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a bit yeah

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though when you get used to it, it's not bad

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it's mainly remembering that I need to properly do the opener haha

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then everything else just kinda feels right

scenic patrol
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I have yet to hear up my SMN

dull radish
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outside of fight optimization

steep iris
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what is up with bards being out of range for healing

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reeee

vital cypress
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don't doxx me please

dull radish
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ranged in general haha

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mostly BLM

steep iris
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I have no problem with casters

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but bards

dull radish
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though I wanna be close because I like raid buffs

steep iris
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I've seen at least 5 in 8s

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literally wtf

dull radish
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tempted to put /hug back on my AM and eat the clip

scenic patrol
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You fucking stack with the party in savage

steep iris
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no cast time

dull radish
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people are bad haha

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I like imtimately knowing cure 3 range

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is cozy

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still not used to being in range for AST stuff yet

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whole tier without needing that consideration

pure yoke
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Hi

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just get in the star

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otherwise AST aoe heals are umm

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standard 15 yalm radius

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if you are in range of medica

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you will be in range for their other stuff

dull radish
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I've honestly like

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called out in voice

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that I'm sad I'm missing the star but I'm missing it

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most times I get it

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but some times I just, can't unless I wanna take decent loss

steady pebble
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everytime you miss ES, you make an ast cry 😭

dull radish
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I make sure to get important ones usually <3

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or manaward otherwise

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rather take personal clip than cost GCD

pure yoke
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how the raid life going Rika?

dull radish
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umm

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unfortunate, a bit

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only 1 day of raid this week, still recruiting

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alt still random pugs

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at least I get weeklies on main but yeah

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we haven't even really had a trial yet for replacement static member for past two weeks >.>

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I just wanna raid haha

pure yoke
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rip

stable basin
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My friend and I decided to pretty much take a break from savage

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I won't go on without her so eh if that's the tier that's the tier

lucid karma
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good for you guys

stable basin
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If i want to bash my head into things I've got Shinryu lol

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... plus since I do green based glam most of the time the Shin Ex weapons are practically my endgame

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Btw 350/355 for Shin Ex... Too high or pure sanity?

lucid karma
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there's no such thing as too high ilvl

paper torrent
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there's no such thing as pure sanity

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this is PF

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this is where dreams go to die

scenic patrol
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If I did old Primal farm I would put the ilvl at 360

paper torrent
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toxi

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c

lucid karma
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you should be at least i363 to farm zurvan

scenic patrol
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Nah, current expansion

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Shit

stable basin
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zurvan does benefit more than most from a really high ilvl though

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if you go 1-1-6 with 330+, it becomes a relaxing cakewalk for the most part

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less, and you have to deal with tether meteors, which in a pug practically make shin ex mechanics seem fair

dull radish
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tethers and meteors are far from difficult haha

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it just makes it not braindead

stable basin
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Yeah but pretty much any time a fight has a mechanic where an entire PUG has to do the things properly as individuals, the wipe rate ... er ... I was going to try to avoid saying it, but ... soars

dull radish
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pretty sure you can spaghetti zurvan hard nowadays and still clear

stable basin
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I mean it doesn't even matter if the mechanic is easy

woeful prawn
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i have intel from chaos

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you cant

stable basin
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Viz. Maiden of Vigilance in WoW

dull radish
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considering we still took a vuln stack or two in sales and was still ok

stable basin
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it's probably the simplest fight in the whole expansion and people wipe on it more than almost any other

dull radish
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half-brain PF (requiring half brain), you can power through

stable basin
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precisely because it has a personal responsibility mechanic on everyone

dull radish
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less than that, good luck

woeful prawn
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chaos unsync operates on a different power level

paper torrent
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this is to go even further beyond

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PIETY MELDS ON DRK

woeful prawn
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expect 1100 dps on rdm in full 330 340

dull radish
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clearly just need to go in as dps and carry dps harder

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and then it's np

steep iris
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tanks that don't do ready checks before countdown ree

dull radish
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at least there's the countdown

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had too many tanks just kinda sprint in (not even toma/shield lob/unmend)

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then just be like, hey guys I pulled

steep iris
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I don't like the thought of that

pure yoke
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hey

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tomahawk is a waste of gcd

scenic patrol
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Needing to use Tomahawk because you got seering

maiden iris
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Should I use Excog to mitigate tankbusters more than Adlo?

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What with Excog being 800 potency of mitigation, and Adlo being 300-600, with a mana cost

hybrid rapids
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excog doesn't mitigate tankbuster

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but it's on oGCD

maiden iris
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It mitigates the cleanup work though

hybrid rapids
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so you can weave it

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with miasma II

maiden iris
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Or Ruin II

hybrid rapids
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no ruin II

maiden iris
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Still not entirely comfortable with Miasma II's mana cost

hybrid rapids
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don't use ruin II at least you're forced to

maiden iris
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I feel like I run dry very fast if I use M2 for my weaving as compared to R2

hybrid rapids
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oh..i forgot it's reddit discord

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nvm

maiden iris
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Sorry >.>

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Is there any way to reduce how much mana I bleed with M2 for my weaving? I know Adlo/Physick let me weave an oGCD in, but that's not a perfect solution

paper torrent
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miasma II is a instant gcd

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so you can weave afterwards

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be sure to stay on top of aetherflow

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llucid also

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excog isn't a mitigating shield but it will make the clean up work easier

hybrid rapids
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it's not easy to run out MP as a SCH

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as long as you don't keep casting adlo or succor

maiden iris
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Right, I know Excog doesn't mitigate the damage, just makes the cleanup much easier if the tank can survive the damage

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Also, when should I use Energy Drain as compared to Excog/Lustrate?

paper torrent
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phsyic is totally fucking uselses

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it's so inefficent

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so that weaving is kinda... meh

maiden iris
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It's one of the least mana-intensive spells you have as a SCH though, no?

paper torrent
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@blazing pelican help this guy with scholar

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this guy knows way more than i do

blazing pelican
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PING

paper torrent
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LOVE YOU

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blazing pelican
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what's the issue

paper torrent
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would you rather i slide in them dms

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you sexy sum bitch

maiden iris
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Sorry, I'm just having a touch of trouble understanding some of this stuff, and I'm not sure if it'll suddenly click at 68 or what

blazing pelican
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So you don't really get a taste of endgame SCH until 68 when you get quickened aetherflow

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basically you should rely on offglobal heals as much as possible

maiden iris
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I think I've got a general handle on cooldown usage. Pop WD when sustained damage is coming out to alleviate pressure everywhere, use Excog to prep for tank damage, Sacred Soil for boss ults

blazing pelican
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_>

maiden iris
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General, not mastery 😛

blazing pelican
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Don't do that last one unless you aren't sure you'll live

maiden iris
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Ah, NN has deceived me once again >.>

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So pretty much just take SS off my bar and do Deployed Adlo for most of my AoE mitigation purposes?

blazing pelican
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Sacred Soil should be used for hard hitting aoe attacks

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like, really hard

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like WTF hard

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like a tank buster but it hit the party

maiden iris
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Like Sus EX Ukehi waves? (Speaking from some of the higher stuff I did on RDM)

blazing pelican
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similar, Sacred gets most of its work in Savage and some EX modes

wet stag
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light of judgement and forsaken come to mind

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and the diffractive waves during biblio

blazing pelican
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think more like Light of Judgement, Exdaddy's Meteor, Neo's Almagest

maiden iris
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Haven't had the opportunity to experience those, since I haven't been on my RDM since I came back about a week ago

blazing pelican
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SPY

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I SEE YOU

maiden iris
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Sorry for ping in kupo channel, just curious what your char looks like

blazing pelican
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!whologs @blazing pelican

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Astrologian: (948/8619) [2141.19 DPS] [92.9 Historical] [7:06]
Scholar: (1214/12147) [2720.73 DPS] [93.1 Historical] [6:34]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Scholar: (435/11591) [3150.45 DPS] [98.3 Historical] [7:35]
White Mage: (4183/13496) [2112.34 DPS] [76.3 Historical] [8:31]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Scholar: (237/8687) [3122.21 DPS] [96.8 Historical] [9:20]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Scholar: (167/6837) [3052.78 DPS] [97.2 Historical] [5:56]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Scholar: (483/4877) [2489.44 DPS] [90.2 Historical] [9:21]

blazing pelican
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am catbou

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boy

maiden iris
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Nice outfit btw

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Same here

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!whoami

storm frostBOT
paper torrent
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there's a reason why i recommended yen here lmao

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he's the only sch main i know

maiden iris
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I had no doubts about his info being valid, ofc

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I just wanted to see what his char looked like 😛

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Inspiration for healer glams, that sort of thing

blazing pelican
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my glamour is pretty basic except for the fact that my shirt is Jet Black and is also the Thav sweater

maiden iris
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Like I said, it's a nice look ^.^

blazing pelican
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Autumn Shirt I mean

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but yeah, GCD healing generally = bad

maiden iris
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Makes sense

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So, is Miasma II easier to keep up with at 70 then?

blazing pelican
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your costs can be ruinous. hell I'm BiS and I can come very close to OOM in Godka

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oh yeah

maiden iris
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Kk

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Just wish we had an upgrade to Ruin II >.>

blazing pelican
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you shouldn't be constantly using it tho

maiden iris
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Yeah, just for important oGCDs

blazing pelican
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still worse than Broil II
only use it if
A) you need to double weave
B) You have to run away

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if you only need to use one oGCD, you can just clip it off Broil II

maiden iris
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Makes sense

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Which does feel terrible tbh, clipping the GCD like that

paper torrent
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the animation for most stuff is pretty short

maiden iris
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True, I just feel that twinge of failure when I have to clip the global

sullen sable
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there's an upgrade for ruin 2

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it's called miasma 2

hybrid rapids
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Lv.63

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I've assumed you're Lv.70 when asking in end-game...

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if only leveling just keep everyone alive and you're good

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and i never did SCH synced Lv.60 nor Lv.50 so don't know how much changes compared to previous Lv.50 or Lv.60 when relevant

unique wigeon
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Ugh

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It pains me being unable to have different glam for my whm and sch

hybrid rapids
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true, if they are sharing same gear...

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good thing is, getting glamour is easy now

maiden iris
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Glamour plates, no?

unique wigeon
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yeah but it would be much nice if its possible to save the glamour setting to gear sets

torn kindle
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You can use macros to apply a certain plate when switching jobs

blazing pelican
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and that's pretty much the only way you're gonna get that, because glamours are gear-bound

azure hill
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About that

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If you macro a glamour plate as part of a gearset

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Does it apply the whole thing the same time it switches?

lyric dawn
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Whats bis for whm?

sour solstice
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uh lemme grab it off the balance for ya

lyric dawn
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👍

sour solstice
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WHM BIS PIN FUN HAPPY TIMES VERSION

To start, courtesy of Pimoh's ultra sugoi bankai power solver:
High piety without dh http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/158ME
High piety with dh http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/158M8
Low piety without dh http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/158M3
Low piety with dh http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/158LV
See this document for more info https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ev3hrXdEt7yidyMQQdt_mrU-dg-NYZgjsGg9L3FRcG4/edit?usp=sharing

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if you want more info

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Join the white mages, and check the pins in questions

lyric dawn
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Thank you :)

woeful prawn
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do you ever bottom out with base piety

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i understood piety in hw because holy shit stone is expensive

grizzled seal
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depends on fight and comp

stable basin
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@woeful prawn depends, I can get you certificated for glaucoma and get you stoned for free xD

safe aspen
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guys, what is the best way to level up in eureka? I'm lvl 4

vital cypress
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counterpoint: the balance 🤢

prime pivot
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hmm?

boreal edge
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@safe aspen follow the fate train

opal hollow
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^ just afk with the game in windowed on the side

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and join a group whenever a fate spawns

clear cove
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So if I've had bad luck pugging Sigmascape savage, am I best off just waiting for the next savage raid tier at this point? Haven't even gotten to clear Train despite getting to enrages tons of times

vital cypress
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what job/role are you on

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I mean you have, what, 4-5 months before omegascape hits?

lusty oak
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4

woeful prawn
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new tier is the absolute best time to pug. but you can keep trying and build up experience and eventually clear o5. then you can join next week's 2 chest parties and get loot

lusty oak
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we literally almost at 4.3

woeful prawn
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and then go train o6, train o7, and so on

lusty oak
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better ask for clear even if u get only book out of it

hybrid rapids
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Isn’t too late

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As long as isn’t 4.4

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It’s still relevant

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But I don’t know the pug quality

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Or if it’s pug-able

lusty oak
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don't be greedy for that chest, better grab page for one week

hybrid rapids
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And also depends on your own skill

visual gate
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Is there an ideal gathering or perception number that should be max so stuff isnt wasted?

vital cypress
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I guess my question is

visual gate
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As in if you had all augmented ala mhigan and all vi materia, whats the most i should go in those two stats so i can worry about gp materia after

vital cypress
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you’re the common factor in all of these failed runs

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I’m not trying to blame you necessarily, but is it possible you’re messing up mechanics, or just not hitting BIG SOVIET DAMAGE numbers?

steady pebble
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it depends on what you're aiming for, morazon. if you're looking for hq mats you want ti hit 1452 gathering, 1360 perceptions

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if youre ok with nq mats, 1350 gathering, 1170 perception

vital cypress
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or people are dying to lack of heals if you’re a healer?

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Or...whatever the fail state is for tanks in savage?

visual gate
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Ok thanks so much kaelwryn, im writing those down now

vital cypress
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if you run ACT that would tell a lot

hybrid rapids
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😨

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Hi kael

sour solstice
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The fail state for tanks is a wipe

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or not enough dps

steady pebble
vital cypress
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third party tools

lusty oak
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but ACT is bannable, dont run ACT

steady pebble
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also just going to mention that 4.3 is coming around soon

vital cypress
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shhh

steady pebble
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and we're likely going to get more gear with it so might want to hold off

hybrid rapids
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People are guessing

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320 crafted

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Accessories

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But we can’t tell yet

vital cypress
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like 5000 DPS will clear 5 and 6 comfortably if everyone else is doing decent work

steady pebble
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yeah, thats my assumption as well but hard to say with certainity until we see the patch notes

visual gate
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Should i save the khloe gold marks for that gear then?

hybrid rapids
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11 May

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Sadly

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That’s our country election

vital cypress
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or 7 although it wouldn’t leave a ton of room for deaths or mistakes

hybrid rapids
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On 9th

steady pebble
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if it is accessories, I don't think they'll be added the khloe

hybrid rapids
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Not sure if Iluna will be free

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For next live letter

steady pebble
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iirc the ironworks accessories aren't available as a WT reward

visual gate
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Ok thanks for all the info seriously, i couldnt find a clear answer

lusty oak
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we should get full new set

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like ironworks were

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to slave on crafting and gathering gear till 4.4

zinc vortex
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didn't they say ala mhigan would be the last crafting gear? pepothink

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wouldn't that mean 320 right side and off-hand next patch?

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just assuming btw dont quote me on this

steady pebble
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I still don't see us getting a whole new set

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especially not at 4.3

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for one we don't have 320 accessories

hybrid rapids
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Tfw you had the ultimate bgm off because it makes your heart beating rate increasing like 1000x

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Then there’s always someone in VC

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With bgm on

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So you literally listening to the bgm via VC

pure yoke
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man

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feels good when df expert roulette healer isn't just sitting on their ass

visual gate
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If you stable train your chocobo, can you alternate cheaper feed so you dont lose its favorite, but also not waste expensive feed?

torn kindle
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TFW my last Hells Lid was Vote Abandoned after 4 wipes on the last boss because the Healer kept dying to the floor mechanic

pure yoke
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whm was like

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3.5k dps

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I was like 4.5k dps

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everyone else was sub 3k dps

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I was warrior btw

torn kindle
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😍

vital cypress
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I like breaking 10k on that one trash pull after the first boss in Fractal HM

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on Scholar

pure yoke
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I don't restart parser

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I rely more on umm

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no rest or stopping

vital cypress
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I have it set to split everything out

clear cove
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Couldn't answer until now smh, I main tank. Generally I only have to worry about CDs, connectivity, and the knock back ghost

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Most recent run in PF we got to 2% and then 3dps and 1 healer ate it to tornados during head on

stable basin
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Why are there so many bad pugs lately

vital cypress
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are you insisting on 2 chests/blocking people who've completed?

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(assuming you're making the PF groups and not just joining them)

azure hill
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Woah

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I'm sorry to hear that @torn kindle 😦

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That's awful

torn kindle
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;-;

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*hug*

paper torrent
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Healers... adjust?

clear cove
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Nah I'm not

granite sedge
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Is there a dragoon rotation guide?

wet stag
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Yes

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!faq drgguide

storm frostBOT
wet stag
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^^

granite sedge
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thanks

hybrid rapids
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Not sure if that guide is outdated

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Maybe can use the balance guide

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Idk

wet stag
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It's the right one

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I checked

hybrid rapids
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Ahh

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Thanks

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Can link this too

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!faq jobguide

storm frostBOT
vital cypress
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no dont

wet stag
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The balance is so comfy tbh

stable basin
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Actually I haven't even done savage in a week and a half now

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It's mostly Shin Ex pugs I've been rolling the dice on

vital cypress
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hmm

stable basin
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I keep getting the ones that eke out an echo carry or two

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Friends get up to 7 runs sometimes

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I'm not sure how to attract the good groups more often (guessing it involves finding out what cookies the Spinner wants today aka luck)

maiden iris
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what does the Shinryu codex look like?

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!item Susano's Codex

storm frostBOT
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**Susano's Codex** **:** Scholar's Arm **:** ilvl 320
Damage

97

Magic Damage

131

Auto Attack

100.88

Vitality

252

Mind

268

Piety

263

Critical Hit

184

Materia Meldable

Yes

maiden iris
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ooooh that's a nice look

steady pebble
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asks about shinyru but looks at susanos boxTHINKING

maiden iris
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!item Shinryu's Codex

storm frostBOT
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**Shinryu's Codex** **:** Scholar's Arm **:** ilvl 335
Damage

98

Magic Damage

133

Auto Attack

101.91

Vitality

278

Mind

293

Piety

270

Critical Hit

189

Materia Meldable

Yes

maiden iris
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happy? 😛

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tbh I like the Susano one better

stable basin
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hah, once I almost told my friends to leave this Shinryu group we were in that wasn't filling to join another that had exactly spaces for us

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... just before I did, I realized the other one was actually for Susano

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I think Shinryu may have been eroding at my sanity, I took a break from it last night

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Not so much the fight itself, but the matter of trying to PF it

steep iris
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That's basically raiding

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take a break for a while, that's what i did

stable basin
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I think I'm gonna try applying the "5 runs" approach to it

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I really should go straight to Eureka after I do these Vath quests though

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I'm like 300 mendacity off cap this week and it's Monday already O.o

spice comet
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😂 😂 😂 😂

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Hes trying

dull radish
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dang, he failed at 0 dps

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only 1/6 of the assizes didn't hit the boss

spice comet
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😂 paissasquint paissasquint

sour solstice
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I just noticed that the one missed the boss

spice comet
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Cause he used it as a literal heal

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😂 😂

dull radish
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mmhmm

sour solstice
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ITS FUCKING 300 POTENCY

#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

unreal flax
#

Is it really only 300 potency?

sour solstice
#

!action assize

storm frostBOT
#
**Assize** : lvl 56 White Mage (60 second cooldown)

Deals unaspected damage to all nearby enemies with a potency of 300.
Additional Effect: Restores own HP and the HP of nearby party members
Cure Potency: 300
Additional Effect: Restores 10% of own MP

sour solstice
#

!action Medica

storm frostBOT
#
**Medica** : lvl 10 Conjurer (2.5 second cooldown)

Restores own HP and the HP of all nearby party members.
Cure Potency: 300

sour solstice
unreal flax
#

MP Positive Medica

#

I respect it

sour solstice
#

I would respect it

spice comet
#

Honest healer

sour solstice
#

if he dps'd the boss

unreal flax
#

Respect. The. Content.

spice comet
#

How did he....

#

Even get to kefka

#

No srsly did their cohealer do like all the dps, orange dps for days? paissasquint

sour solstice
#

Is that a static

lucid karma
#

okay let's just say, we were practicing our first run

sour solstice
#

oh

lucid karma
#

we tried to see every mechanic

unreal flax
#

If you're in a group where all four DPS are doing 5k+, and both tanks are doing 3.5k+, you don't need to DPS as healer lol.

sour solstice
#

nice

lucid karma
#

and this is before

#

I told him

unreal flax
#

OH

lucid karma
#

to focus on DPS

spice comet
#

He was shit....before

lucid karma
#

I'm NIN

spice comet
#

Whm 500

lucid karma
#

my first run

spice comet
#

He was alrdy full honest

lucid karma
#

everyone's first tbh

sour solstice
#

I got above 500 with fucking 8 casts per minute average because im shit

#

HOW

lucid karma
#

try to see every possible mechanic

#

so we kinda focus on mechanic and not dying first

spice comet
#

I want to say hes learning mechs

#

But paissasquint

woeful prawn
#

you dont learn to heal unless you murder with your lack of heals

grizzled seal
#

^

spice comet
#

^

lucid karma
#

anyway I'm looking forward to more wipe on wednesday

#

because our MT will be away

#

hopefully we can get our stand in MT's friend

dull radish
#

good luck <3

#

I'm hoping we can at least start getting some decent folks to trial soon

#

I think we have short-term solution for weeklies at least

#

but one raid day a week is boring haha

lucid karma
#

oh I was picked up last tier by my static

#

I was always pug

#

so it happens

#

looking back then I'd stay grey shitter

#

if I still pug

steep iris
#

i became purple when i joined a static

lucid karma
#

not that green is any better haha

steep iris
#

Then we came to o8s and im grey

spice comet
#

paissasquint 👌

lucid karma
#

!whologs @lucid karma

storm frostBOT
#
FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Ninja: (2611/8425) [4970.53 DPS] [70.1 Historical] [8:46]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Ninja: (4061/8123) [5342.48 DPS] [49.8 Historical] [9:30]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Ninja: (3822/5972) [4895.12 DPS] [36.7 Historical] [12:06]

dull radish
#

5 is best for pugs <3 if you can get the clear, you get so much extra AoE

zinc vortex
#

its okay to be gray

steep iris
#

not dpsing hurts my soul

zinc vortex
#

as long as you enjoy yourself

#

its all good

spice comet
#

Idk my statics pretty good but it might be time to find a new one with war leaving, them being friends with the lead paissasquint

steep iris
#

isnt the war the only one that sux

spice comet
#

He is

#

But the leads sad

steep iris
#

rip

spice comet
#

They wanna do next tier with the shitty war

#

Their lost i gues

steep iris
#

oh boy

lucid karma
#

how shitty we're talking

steep iris
#

tank stance in god even when he isn't tanking god

lucid karma
#

oh

spice comet
#

MEMES

lucid karma
#

o h I remember you talked about him

steep iris
#

more hp to heal

#

wait actually

spice comet
#

Im so salty over it hes a literal meme

steep iris
#

does indom's heal get boosted by tank stance/conva?

dull radish
#

no, it's an ability

zinc vortex
#

nah

#

ability =/= spell based healing

steep iris
#

wow healing him before heartless archangel must suck

lucid karma
#

doesn't even get boosted by anything other than main stats

#

IIRC

spice comet
#

😂 😂 👌 yep indom doesnt boost

scenic patrol
sour solstice
#

I hit enrage on train

scenic patrol
#

Grats

#

Now join weekly parties

pure yoke
#

Morning

dull radish
#

good afternoon

paper torrent
#

ayyyy grats Yalia

unreal flax
#

Niiiiice. You got this.

sour solstice
#

nevermind the fact that it was a 30% enrage

dull radish
#

whew

sullen sable
#

LOL

scenic patrol
#

Lmao

sullen sable
#

God bless

scenic patrol
#

15 people dead?

#

Or just plain bad dps players?

#

My guess is both

sour solstice
#

I think DPs average is 3k

#

generally 5-7 deaths a fight

scenic patrol
#

Fucking wew

zinc vortex
#

they're

#

LEARNING

#

DONT

#

BULLY

sullen sable
zinc vortex
unique wigeon
#

🤔

unreal flax
#

Hey Yalia, my group raids on Wednesdays, so if are okay with one chest and still need help, lemme know.

sour solstice
#

.1% enrage

pure yoke
sour solstice
#

sure

unreal flax
#

Oh, pfft, you got this

#

Oh, also, since you're raiding right now, our schedules likely don't actually line up often. I'm still at work for another like... five hours lmao

boreal edge
#

@scenic patrol @dull radish @sullen sable @sour solstice its fine i had o1s enrage at 33% its ok

scenic patrol
#

Lol

#

I had seen enrage on O6S weekly, 2 times

unreal flax
#

I've seen some pretty beefy enrages before lol. O5S enrage at 29% is one of the highest I can remember.

spice comet
#

That time i tried to prog ucob twin enrage 50%, we barely poked the boss paissasquint

dull radish
#

that's impressive

spice comet
#

We were on track for dps probably for the 1st min cause we skipped last twisty shit went downhill real fast

vital cypress
#

i could actually jump on and help right now

#

since i called in today on account of riding the vomit comet

#

though if I go AFK for 30 seconds mid-pull that's why

stable basin
#

Yeah I've heard of some statics that don't even DPS bosses at all during initial prog unless they have to to push a phase

#

so they can learn all the mechanics first, then optimize

#

I'm still trying to figure out how someone is both online and "unable to retrieve" on my friends list atm

#

(they're a cross server person)

#

I'm guessing name changes don't update cross server friends properly, have to refriend?

sour solstice
#

@unreal flax ive got a pretty massive window for raiding so I should be good

unreal flax
#

Cool cool! Well, yeah, we can do some stuff.

scenic patrol
#

Nadine, that sounds like ass to do

#

During prog I also figure out how my DPS rotation lines up

#

And that will split up prog into
1)mechanics
2)dps rotations

#

I see it as inefficient

paper torrent
#

Dps rotations only adjust so much for some fights

dull radish
#

dry runs are a thing sometimes, if the situation really calls for it, but generally they don't

#

it takes a mechanic that your party just, literally cannot deal with, while pushing their dps buttons

sullen sable
#

We did that while we were learning long drop in o2s, but it was just that mechanic

pure yoke
#

This is why we need mid fight dps checks

sullen sable
#

To understand how it worked

pure yoke
#

Besides you really

#

Want that muscle memory

spice comet
#

Galaxy brain mechs gotta stop n think

pure yoke
#

For the fight

dull radish
#

yeah

paper torrent
#

We need to build a dps wall

#

And make SE pay for it

sullen sable
spice comet
#

Dps wall paissasquint

scenic patrol
#

That's my point, dps muscle memory is quite important in how things line up

paper torrent
#

With Nadines line of thinking we get shit dps rdms

#

Who can't move to a spot because practicing a fairly immutable rotation is hard

spice comet
#

Thats.....a dummy

sour solstice
#

FUCK YEAh

#

I GOT IT

dull radish
#

congrats <3 any chests?

sour solstice
#

1

#

ring of aiming

paper torrent
#

Just remeber

spice comet
#

👌

paper torrent
#

Tank belt doesn't exist

#

It is a myth

sullen sable
#

Grats!

sour solstice
#

Other healer was a little on the honest side

paper torrent
#

It's ok

sour solstice
#

So I got a fair bit of DPS

paper torrent
#

Most pf healers are

#

At least you did good son

sour solstice
#

Selene Scholar

#

IDK if thats meta

paper torrent
#

Truly

sour solstice
#

but I dont think it is

paper torrent
#

A run for the memes

sullen sable
#

Selene is fine for train

spice comet
#

In o5s its ideal to use selene but im stuck with eos

sullen sable
#

Especially if your cohealer is honest

spice comet
#

Memes too real

sour solstice
#

ah

sullen sable
#

You'll want Eos for the rest probably

sour solstice
#

oop

spice comet
#

Yea eos is better, train is so spacey on heals that selene is nice

sour solstice
#

Green parse

zinc vortex
#

hey its me ur brother train

#

here to say congratulations

sullen sable
dull radish
#

few deaths there

zinc vortex
sour solstice
#

Yeah one of em was being full HP and dying to head on diabolic for some reason

grizzled seal
#

grats fran

sour solstice
#

maybe Tetra didnt go off fast enough

#

16 casts per minute tho

#

better than my original 9

grizzled seal
#

aim for 20+

spice comet
#

Head on if ur standing mid plus wind ur gambling

#

On mitigation n shields

dull radish
sour solstice
#

I think I might've greeded a stone cast or something

#

idk

dull radish
#

so close

spice comet
#

41k

#

I wouldve lived paissasquint vit melded....

grizzled seal
#

^

#

vit melds + food

sour solstice
#

Maybe I should vit meld

#

I have food

spice comet
#

I didnt do the vit thing till god, but yea that head on was close

scenic patrol
#

God has some spicy fucking AOE

sour solstice
#

!whologs @sour solstice

storm frostBOT
#
FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

White Mage: (7170/14340) [1765.42 DPS] [50.7 Historical] [10:13]

sour solstice
#

the other guy got a different result on his upload

#

so I guess im blue

sullen sable
#

???

#

That's a pretty big difference

zinc vortex
#

yeah

spice comet
dull radish
#

looks ok to me, perf % must be lower because skewed towards more people padding past two weeks maybe, with slightly higher overall percentile

sullen sable
#

Ohnvm, I thought Yalia's upload had 1200 dps or something

dull radish
#

no, same dps

sullen sable
#

From that act log that was ctrl+v into this chat lol

zinc vortex
#

tfw my kefka parses get shot down by like 10 percentiles pepehands

#

too many good people cleared early

sullen sable
zinc vortex
#

had an 81 at one point that was reduced to a 70

pure yoke
#

Meanwhile

#

I get mad for being taxed 40dps

dull radish
#

I wish I was only ever taxed 40 dps

#

that sounds nice

zinc vortex
#

yeah i get taxed like 200+ on average

dull radish
#

at the very least, would be nice if they approximated thunder a bit better in ACT

#

we'd still get taxed but not nearly as much

#

still think highest I've personally gotten was like 350 or so, probably partially because of damage down screwiness

vital cypress
#

MY RADIANT SHIELD

sour solstice
#

But yeah im happy

pure yoke
#

They should just make 5% of brd and mch dps go to me

sour solstice
#

Im kinda surprised we got it with a couple of the dps on there

#

but w/e

#

Thanks for the carry mr bard

dull radish
#

Now time for O6S <3

sour solstice
#

Oof

#

Im gonna need a few hours

dull radish
#

It's cozier and much more puggable than 5

sour solstice
#

oh ok

spice comet
#

When u get down the mechs, o6s is the dummy fight

scenic patrol
#

Aye

zinc vortex
#

is it cause everybody else is a DUMMY? hahahahaha amirite fellow raiders high-five

unreal flax
#

Oh you cleared! Good shit, Yalia!

unique wigeon
#

How's o4s compared to current tier now that we have better gear

unreal flax
#

Are you talking about difficulty between the tiers or are you thinking of going back to last tier to kill those fights again?

#

Cuz, O4S is still a moderately tough fight. It's very, very slightly easier than O7S IN MY OPINION. With today's gear, if you see enrage in O4S, there is a really, really big problem.

limber delta
#

lol still gotta know what you're doing in that fight

unreal flax
#

Exactly.

#

No matter how hot your dips is, GCO will fuck ya team up and off the platform

spice comet
#

Oh ez clear before gco

#

Lmao

clear cove
#

Trying to pick a DPS class so I don't exclusively have tanks; is Bard messed up by high ping? (Mine's at like 117)

torn kindle
#

I don't know if I would call ~120 high ping but BRD definitely doesn't uniquely suffer from high ping.

spice comet
#

Not that i knoe of

#

Mch and nin might mess with u thats it

clear cove
#

OK cool. And idk, most people seem to regard >50 as high

torn kindle
#

*old man voice* BACK IN MY DAY WE ALL HAD 100 PING IF WE WERE LUCKY

zinc vortex
#

ah yes

torn kindle
#

*swings cane in the air*

zinc vortex
#

european servers in canada

#

god bless

paper torrent
#

Mch just adjusts their opener with ping iirc

#

But wildfire memes

#

RDM doesn't suffer too much from ping unless it trails into packet loss territory and then becomes unplayable

#

That's easily testable as soon as you get it

scenic patrol
#

RDM is the job that suffers the most from extreme ping

#

It's straight up unplayable above 250 ping

sour solstice
#

Enjoy this

paper torrent
#

Oh boy

#

20 wipes

#

O H B O Y

sour solstice
#

Im legit shocked that the group stayed together

#

for fuckin 21 runs

paper torrent
#

I was about

#

To call your WAR dps shit

#

And i saw you on whm

sour solstice
#

yep

#

My WAR is 332 right now

#

because I cant stand Eureka for more than an hour at a time

paper torrent
#

Holy shit

sour solstice
#

even with something else to do

#

it just drives me fucking insane

paper torrent
#

Honest scholar

#

Lemme check heal logs

sour solstice
#

Honest SELENE scholar

wet stag
#

10:13 kill blobsweatbutfast

paper torrent
#

Hily

sour solstice
#

yep

paper torrent
#

He overheals

sour solstice
#

Ignore my overheal plz

paper torrent
#

So much

#

You both do but he is literally monkaS

sour solstice
#

Its not my fault he topped people off when they had M2

#

He only had 24% on the kill

#

I had fuckin 60 LOL

paper torrent
#

What an honest healer

#

He has 5x times your heals

#

THAT SAM

#

HOLYSHITTTTT

#

GARBAGE

sour solstice
#

6%

#

Fun fact

#

for the first 10 pulls

#

HE DIDNT HAVE FUCKING ARMS LENGTH

paper torrent
#

I thought no one could parse lower than 3k on sam

#

I was wrong

steady pebble
#

people can always parse lower than you expect

wet stag
#

Isn't minimum for ninja likw

sour solstice
#

Remember

wet stag
#

50 or something

paper torrent
#

That class is so braindead

sour solstice
#

hes better than 5% of SAM players

#

so

paper torrent
#

That bard carries

#

So hard

#

He and the smn

wet stag
#

No I'm misremembering nvm

paper torrent
#

Are the reason you fucking cleared

sour solstice
#

Litterally 3 people there with blues

#

me, the DRK and the BRD

#

everyone else was grey

paper torrent
#

That healer dps is good tho

#

I haven't checked ogcds

sour solstice
#

my aero uptime was shit

paper torrent
#

But it happens first clear

#

Healer dps gets harder with shit groups

sour solstice
#

I missed 1 assize cast

paper torrent
#

Like, way harder

sour solstice
#

8 casts in 10 minutes

#

but realistically you can only get 9

paper torrent
#

That's pretty good tho

sour solstice
#

if you save it for the add shits

paper torrent
#

How's tetras

sour solstice
#

5

#

But

#

Honest cohealer

#

3 cleric stances

#

holy fuck im bad

paper torrent
#

It's alright

wet stag
#

I mean cleric stance does nothing p much

paper torrent
#

At least you ain't honest healer

sour solstice
#

5% is 5%

#

Fun fact

#

when we hit the .1% enrage

paper torrent
#

It's more like an extra 1% overall because of its cds

sour solstice
#

our SAM was in a different discord call and didnt FUCKING LB

#

How many pulls did that cost us

paper torrent
#

To be fair

#

I don't think that SAM has a brain

#

Like genuine memes

sour solstice
#

12

#

it cost us

#

12 god damn pulls

#

it took us an extra hour

#

because the SAM didnt lb

#

10:29 AM instead of 11:34 AM

#

that wouldve been nice

paper torrent
#

Welcome to why people join statics

wet stag
#

I mean tbf even if the Sam didn't lb one of the other dps shouldve

sour solstice
#

They did

#

It wasnt enough

wet stag
#

Oh

#

Rip ok

sour solstice
#

it was SMN

paper torrent
#

Counter point

#

SAM is lowest dps

sour solstice
#

tbf if the BLM had done it it wouldve killed

wet stag
#

No

#

Oh

#

Yeah

sour solstice
#

since the SMN would have been able to cast

wet stag
#

Maybe

stable basin
#

Wow can i trade in this past hour for Master Alchemist II? :D

#

Or is this only NQ concentrated spirits of salt :(

wet stag
#

Isn't it collectible only

#

Wait collectibles aren't a thing

#

In arr

#

Ignore me

steady pebble
#

mastercraft books require HQ

wet stag
#

^ yes that

unreal flax
#

Hey Yalia, I'm home now. Need any help?

sour solstice
#

Nah im not running any more hard shit tonight

unreal flax
#

No worries!

lucid karma
#

checking your clear log

#

LOL SAM

#

remove SAM tbh

sour solstice
#

its uh

#

Its something

steep iris
#

922 dps sch

#

this kills the sch

#

99% healing parse

#

👀

sour solstice
#

at the start of the pF

#

"I like main healing you focus on DPS"

lucid karma
#

I mean a lot of healing and not THAT much overheal

sour solstice
#

me: "ok buddy"

steep iris
#

oh

#

I looked at the overheal

#

damn

sour solstice
#

mine was awful

#

mostly due to M2

lucid karma
#

but really the real bad here was SAM

#

died thrice

sour solstice
#

He didnt have

#

Arm's length

#

for the first 10 pulls

lucid karma
#

I'm checking clear pull tho

torn kindle
#

f

lucid karma
#

still bad

sour solstice
#

Ik

#

I think he died to remorse

lucid karma
#

died to head on, TWICE

steep iris
#

2.4k dps sam

#

whoa

#

3.8k dps blm

dull radish
#

pretty sure the SAM just applied head-on nigh directly to the forehead and died to it a few times, if I recall from when I was looking earlier

#

bold strategy

steep iris
#

LOL

lucid karma
#

not using feint

#

smh

steep iris
#

sam

#

expecting them to use any skills that contribute to the party

lucid karma
#

oh wait he does

steep iris
#

o shi-

lucid karma
#

but still die to head on

#

WHY

dull radish
#

yeah he died to remorse, then took 73k head-on

steep iris
#

how does he die to head on anyway

paper torrent
#

That blm

#

Almost tried

dull radish
#

then he learned a bit and moved a bit back, but still died to 44k head on

steep iris
#

like, unless he's greeding

paper torrent
#

Almost

lucid karma
#

oh

steep iris
#

literally no reason to at this point when he needs to learn how to not do 2.4k dps

lucid karma
#

feint AT COMPLETELY WRONG TIME

#

the fuck did he used feint on, at 5 minutes in

#

add?

#

...It is

#

used feint on Malice

sour solstice
#

did he die to the adds in that pull?

paper torrent
#

This SAM is do MonkaS

#

It hurts

sour solstice
#

I remember there was a pull he died to add AoEs

#

We had like 5 wipes to the WAR failing the WAR strat

dull radish
#

just the remorse and two head-ons that pull

paper torrent
#

This SAM is in farm parties now

sour solstice
#

and ended up clearing after saying fuck it

lucid karma
#

props to your team tho

paper torrent
#

God bless

lucid karma
#

for 20+ pulls

#

I'd just abandon after 10

#

even for practice

sour solstice
#

I would've if it wasnt for the one .1% enrage

#

which wouldve been a win

#

IF THE FUCKING SAM LB'd

hybrid rapids
#

I would drop a GCD to put in mitigation on time if it’s necessary one

paper torrent
#

This SAM

lucid karma
#

I know it's thundercloud proc

paper torrent
#

makes me mad

hybrid rapids
#

Sometimes the sever side just stupid when you tried to weave oGCD mitigation in

sour solstice
#

yeah

lucid karma
#

!action higanbana

storm frostBOT
#
**Higanbana** : lvl 30 Samurai (2.5 second cooldown)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 240.
Additional Effect: Damage over time
Potency: 35
Duration: 60s

sour solstice
#

including when it dropped the divine and killed me

lucid karma
#

ah

paper torrent
#

How do Sams even drop that

#

Thing lasts a legit minute

lucid karma
#

only two shinten

#

only two guren

#

my brain hurts

#

it's another fucking midare factory

sour solstice
#

13 midares

#

I think our factory is defective

lucid karma
#

you might be right

sour solstice
#

Im also pretty sure

#

that 22 yukikazes

steep iris
sour solstice
#

is a little high

steep iris
#

o 7 s o n f a r m

lucid karma
#

isn't yukikaze is like, to refresh DoT

paper torrent
#

LMAO

sour solstice
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Nope

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Yuki is slashing debuff

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and people wonder why

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People parse scum

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but it gives one seal, no?

sour solstice
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it does

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And look up logs

sour solstice
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but look at his other seals

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!action gekko

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22/15/13

torn kindle
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kupobot dead

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F

lucid karma
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anyway something isn't right

torn kindle
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I'm not a SAM main but you should have an equal amount of all three combos?

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Do you need the seal

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If you have a fucking warrior

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To spam maim

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he also doesn't know how to AoE apparently

sour solstice
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4 AoE comboes

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and 0 tenka gokkens

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**Gekko** : lvl 30 Samurai (2.5 second cooldown)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
Combo Action: Jinpu
Combo Potency: 400 Rear Combo Bonus: Increases Kenki Gauge by 5 Combo Bonus: Increases Kenki Gauge by 5
Combo Bonus: Grants Getsu

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also gj kupobot

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oh thanks kupobot

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but too late

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I hate that nowadays if anyone joins anything as SAM

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I will have that prejudice

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that the SAM will be bad

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I should play SAM more often, just to prove people wrong (or right, whatever, I don't fuckin know anymore)

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play whatever you like

sour solstice
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I mean

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just, play it right

sour solstice
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aint hard to top this guy

unreal flax
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I play everything in melee range right. It's the other stuff that I'll kill you with.

lucid karma
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yeah, spam ogcd and use convert seal to kenki

sour solstice
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Pretty sure you can Midare Factory better

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will net you much more DPS

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I mean he doesn't even use the 3-combo

unreal flax
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yuck

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he doesn't fucking know how to use opener

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not to mention ogcd

unreal flax
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TBF, I only know the 3-sen opener. Which, is clearly more than this person.

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at least you use 3-combo thing

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it's the most powerful skill for SAm

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when used with kenki convert

unreal flax
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Midare? Yeah, it's pretty nice.

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nah I mean uh...

unreal flax
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Hagakure?

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what skill that lets you do 3 skills

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without having to combo

unreal flax
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Ohhhh

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Meikyo

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that one

sour solstice
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SAM peanut butter

unreal flax
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SAM Balance

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use that skill with kenki convert = free ogcd

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I really like it