#endgame-lounge

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sour solstice
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The same place Cottoneye Joe comes from

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and goes

scenic patrol
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!whologs @scenic patrol

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (2207/11035) [3944.27 DPS] [81.0 Historical] [7:56]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (2806/10396) [4340.47 DPS] [76.3 Historical] [9:04]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (1044/7460) [4308.63 DPS] [87.8 Historical] [11:27]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (1164/5543) [4075.1 DPS] [79.5 Historical] [6:50]

sullen sable
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Grats

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And good luck!

sour solstice
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Goodluck with Godfa johni

sullen sable
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Fun fight :D

scenic patrol
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we reached trine on first Godka prog

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Celestriad is rough

dull radish
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It's not bad when you get used to positioning

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Then it's as simple as, dodge blizzard

scenic patrol
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positioning is fucking rough on me

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I need to drag the boss

dull radish
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Can do meme center celestriad like we do~

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(would generally not really recommend)

scenic patrol
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I'd passs

dull radish
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Cozy for me <3

scenic patrol
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we have meta comp, so we don't need BLM memes

dull radish
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It's not just for me haha, and BLM is actually pretty good for 8, possibly even in contention for meta for it

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It's also cozy because you just keep boss there

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He's good on pull and is still good for forsaken

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We don't move him until trine haha

spice comet
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Think we do the pug strat boss moves more center for trine, starts lil north

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paissasquint paissasquint and i slidecast heals to get the ranged dps that dont move in post celestriad

stable basin
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aaggghhh tfw you were gonna get a shinryu kill and the other DPS tethered to you keeps running the same way

scenic patrol
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do you move him for trine?

spice comet
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Nope

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The tank moves to avoid trine

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If that counts as moving

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In the end the boss is always off center so we all stand mid n wings dont hit us

dull radish
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We've been working on the, just bring boss between two trine automatically on the edge

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So melee can just keep hitting him

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But we just casually move him for just that

spice comet
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The part u do move boss dont think its diff strat but big trine

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Boss always slightly off centered

scenic patrol
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Godka prog has been fun so far at leasy

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died 3 times just because of my opener

dull radish
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I still just hate full uptime starstrafe, we've been working on it a bit and I feel like I'm never left with any room haha

scenic patrol
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my static are more in the mind of clearing fights instead of speeding them

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so we won't bother with speed strats

dull radish
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Yeah, that should always be the focus during prog

scenic patrol
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also some backlog of fights we want to do after Godka is done

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Neo Exdeath

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Shin EX

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and some more

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and we will attempt UwU

dull radish
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Should be fun

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It's gonna be a bit of a mess for us, we'll probably need to find longer term WAR sub for the start of it since our regular WAR will be gone for a while

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And depending on how things go, how hard we wanna prog/how long it'll take us, I'm gonna be gone late July as well haha

unreal flax
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NO NONO

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IS THAT WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT?

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UWU????

spice comet
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UwU ๐Ÿค”

dull radish
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Of course

steep iris
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UwU what's this?

unreal flax
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lmao thanks

spice comet
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Wait, why w

steep iris
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Ultima weapon

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Ultimate

lyric summit
spice comet
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Gonna go kms now wow

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UwU

sour solstice
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UWU will be legend

stable basin
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LOL I grew up in the New York area and went to the city enough to know those signs

woeful prawn
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i will attempt uwu this time

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i never did coils so i didnt want to be a burden

sour solstice
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just because you want to say you tried uwu?

lyric summit
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did you do ultima's bane synced? that should help

stable basin
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on Siren we have a word for when you worry too much about things like being a burden

woeful prawn
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n-no. i mean ive done ultima weapon synced and titan synced

stable basin
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it's called you're being a bean

scenic patrol
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there's no reason not to call Ultima Ultimate UwU

stable basin
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... So much cobalt. LOL

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and dammit

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i gathered grenade ash instead of bomb ash facepalm

spice comet
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I did ultima ex solo

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Does it count paissasquint

dull radish
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Min ilvl Ultima was pretty fun

unreal flax
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I'm just curious how they'll make it more difficult than any other Ultima fight. No cast bars, no AoE Indicators. Blight every third auto.

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Also, every bit of damage except the raidwide is a one-shot.

dull radish
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more of the primal mechanics happening that weren't in the original, with harder variants

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additional primals

opaque pewter
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anyone has any advice in terms of getting geared up for someone who just reached level 70? besides doing the daily roulettes

stable basin
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Try to get the lowest available and unlimited tomestone gear you can.

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Upgrade the weapon asap.

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IF you can.

unreal flax
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Eureka posthaste

stable basin
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Or that.

unreal flax
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Follow that shitty-ass NM train, get some i350 gear, with an i355 weapon, fill out your right side with any Lost Allagan stuff and carborundum stuff, save your mendacity for real gear that matters

opaque pewter
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the reason why i said besides daily roulettes is because i did them all, so now i'm wondering what should do, so eureka then?

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i appreciate all of you

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just know that

spice comet
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Eureka

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Train, afk

scenic patrol
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start raiding

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๐Ÿ‘€

spice comet
unreal flax
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LMAO that log

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I hate FFLogs lol

opaque pewter
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what do you mean by train?

grizzled seal
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padded logs ๐Ÿ˜”

scenic patrol
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he was 100 percentile already

grizzled seal
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o5s

opaque pewter
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@spice comet

scenic patrol
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just padded because lels

spice comet
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Thats padded

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To hell

scenic patrol
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oh yeah

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they let him solo the adds

spice comet
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Eureka u do fates but

scenic patrol
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๐Ÿ‘€

spice comet
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U follow the train of ppl

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Of course paissasquint

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Train of ppl goes around killing mobs to spawn fates, follow the train, basically eureka, oh n prob get a pt shout "lp train pt or something"

scenic patrol
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WAR is a DPS job

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๐Ÿ‘€

tiny kraken
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Quick question, what do they mean by vert virus in party finder? x3

grizzled seal
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vertical instead of horizontal

limpid ocean
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vertical virus

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so north/south pushing

unreal flax
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Gimme a second

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This is Vertical

tiny kraken
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ah got it thankies :D

grizzled seal
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indeed ๐Ÿ‘Œ

wet stag
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And then you get the times

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When you're doing alright

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But you're losing to 10th place on your server by 5 dps because you forgot to pot

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It helps that pots are like

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2k each

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On my server

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Or was it 8k

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It was 4 digits for sure

scenic patrol
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I am rank 234 Warrior EU on Kefka

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it's something

torn kindle
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I think historical was what your parse percentile was at the time of recording?

wet stag
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Hist% is over all time

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Perf is last 2 weeks

earnest perch
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wwait that little gif thing is so helpful and cool

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i dont even know what it's talking about but\

grizzled seal
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the one on your character page

wet stag
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Hist% yeah

paper torrent
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O6S

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Is a parse fight

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A lot of people try tp improve a lot on that fight because it is super easy

wet stag
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Yeah I do that

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Trying for top 10 Tonberry drk tonight

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Should be ok if I rmb to fucking pot

last geode
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@wet stag im ok at the job lol

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top 10 Tonberry DRK

wet stag
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I mean

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On o6s

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I'm 7th on o5s, 11th on o6s

last geode
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How do you boost DPS besides Grit off?

wet stag
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I forget what my guardian and kefka are but I know it's sub 20

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Never cap mp and blood, pool blood and mp for raid buffs

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Make sure carve is always in trick

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If you have a good nin

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Otherwise whatever

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Mashing shit on cd is like a 200 dps loss rather

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It's dps neutral generally

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But it can be a gain, can b anloss

last geode
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so leave blood and mp at around 50%-70%?

wet stag
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4800 is a good starting point

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Make sure you always have enough for a da and tbn

paper torrent
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I'm a parse god

last geode
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sometimes my mp drops to 0 for some reason

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because im always hitting DA

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how do you fix this

wet stag
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Stop hitting da

scenic patrol
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this is how DRK mana should look like

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On O6S

last geode
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for which abilities do I use DA for without dropping MP to 0 while still maintaining good dps?

scenic patrol
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doesn't matter

wet stag
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Your first priority is carve

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Otherwise it's whatever

scenic patrol
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DA C&S is priority number one

last geode
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so C&S should never be without DA?

wet stag
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Yeah

last geode
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kk

wet stag
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On trash packs it's ok

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If it let's you ad more

last geode
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I think I'll get 1 of my C&S without it by accident

scenic patrol
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start hovering around 4800 mana more and stop hitting DA like a madman

last geode
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usually i pop c&s with DA but sometimes I can miss it

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ahh ok

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that's a nice number to remember

scenic patrol
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mana management is key

last geode
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kk

scenic patrol
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and you can shift resources to gain even more DPS from raid buffs

last geode
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how does this work/

scenic patrol
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as you have seen in my image linked, Raffter saved his mana every single time for Trick Attack

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Trick Attack is every 60 seconds

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C&S is every 60 seconds as well

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they should be sync'd together

last geode
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trick attack is from NIN?

scenic patrol
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providing you have a good Ninja tto play with

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yes

last geode
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kk

wide mirage
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That realisation that the new Ultima Weapon Ultimate's shorthand name is probably going to be "UwU"

wet stag
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Ur 4 days too late friend

wide mirage
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Shh let me have this

last geode
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LOL

stable basin
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also lakshmi ultimate when ๐Ÿ˜„

last geode
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eew

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screw the music

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for lakshmi

wet stag
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What

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I love it

last geode
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it's bollywood

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hell nah

paper torrent
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WHAT

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ARE YOU SAYIN'

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YOU DON'T LIKE

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GRAND VOCALS

last geode
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YE

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YES

blazing pelican
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rooBlank the music is the best part of this game

paper torrent
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no Yen

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you're the best part of my game

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โค

blazing pelican
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Awww

paper torrent
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thanks for all the excogs, homie

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โค

blazing pelican
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If I had a heart it would be melting right now

wet stag
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Music and visuals are best

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And also dragonsong war

scenic patrol
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Ultima music

last geode
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it's just lakshmi music that I loathe

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that's it

scenic patrol
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UwU is gonna be so fucking fun

last geode
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everything else is lit

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omg ultima ultimate is coming out?

scenic patrol
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Aye

last geode
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i didnt realise

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i thought it was just a meme

scenic patrol
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Ultima weapon Ultimate

last geode
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when a guy mentioned uwu

scenic patrol
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Nah, Ultima was announced as the next ultimate in the live letter

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And then people realized

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It's UwU

last geode
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LOL

scenic patrol
last geode
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idont understand the uwu meme tho

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is it just a sound

scenic patrol
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Face

last geode
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awh

blazing pelican
paper torrent
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it's also tied to cringy e-girl sayings

scenic patrol
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^^

paper torrent
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or you know, men trying to pretend to be women on the internet for catfishing

steady pebble
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(ยดใƒปฯ‰ใƒป`)

last geode
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LOL

paper torrent
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hush kael

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we all know you're a man

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no need to hide your true self from us

steady pebble
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เฒ _เฒ 

paper torrent
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the voice proves nothing

steady pebble
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but i've linked pictures of my self before

paper torrent
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BUT

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ARE THEY TIMESTAMPED

last geode
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lol

paper torrent
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WITH YOUR NAME

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๐Ÿค”

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wait a minute

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i'm gay

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why the fuck do i care

steady pebble
scenic patrol
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Kael is an E Girl, leave her alone

paper torrent
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@scenic patrol gimme diamond axe plz

last geode
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@steady pebble are you a crazy cat lady

scenic patrol
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I don't one myself though

paper torrent
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gimme

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i need to get my parses to puprle by gear carry

steady pebble
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not yet

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im working there

scenic patrol
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You will be grey regardless

sour solstice
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LEWD

scenic patrol
paper torrent
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OOF

sour solstice
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no pussy pics

paper torrent
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sad but true

steady pebble
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but

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but mine is cute, that should make it ok, no?

paper torrent
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tfw you improve to average

hybrid rapids
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actually the uwu was mentioned by me like week ago

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then just realized

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it's real lmao

sour solstice
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yup

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thanks Tsun-chan

hybrid rapids
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we was memeing

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anyway

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tfw endgame discussion is dead

wet stag
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Tfw people consider eureka endgame xd

hybrid rapids
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technically it's

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since you have to be Lv.70

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and completed stormblood

wet stag
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I know

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But like

hybrid rapids
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ikr

azure hill
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Eureka, crafting, gathering and large fishing is all endgame

hybrid rapids
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when 95% of the users are casual who don't actually do end game

paper torrent
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hey

hybrid rapids
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we have no choice but putting everything level 70 into end game

paper torrent
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i do savage

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sometimes

azure hill
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Savage raiding is just one of many forms of it

wet stag
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Idk man generally endgame has a connotation of some smidgen of skill

paper torrent
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it's because endgame means diff things to diff people

wet stag
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Nyeh

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insert scroll of truth meme here

azure hill
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Endgame is pretty much anything you do after reaching the level cap

paper torrent
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i mean to be fair

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that's the most broad defintion, which fits well

grizzled seal
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!whologs @hybrid rapids

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Astrologian: (1274/7495) [1899.51 DPS] [84.1 Historical] [7:35]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Scholar: (1320/10160) [2632.6 DPS] [90.5 Historical] [7:20]
Astrologian: (1672/6969) [1725.08 DPS] [77.2 Historical] [8:28]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Scholar: (4360/7518) [1885.04 DPS] [47.4 Historical] [9:40]
Astrologian: (2442/4140) [1392.06 DPS] [41.6 Historical] [9:54]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Scholar: (5217/5733) [1612.1 DPS] [9.1 Historical] [6:44]
White Mage: (1565/6261) [2506.24 DPS] [77.9 Historical] [6:33]
Astrologian: (1077/2566) [1815.96 DPS] [60.9 Historical] [6:19]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Scholar: (1727/3927) [1818.86 DPS] [56.5 Historical] [9:11]
White Mage: (1633/4083) [1798.27 DPS] [61.2 Historical] [10:24]
Astrologian: (404/1471) [1598.47 DPS] [73.1 Historical] [9:01]

hybrid rapids
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wow

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bulli

grizzled seal
paper torrent
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jesus

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you have a kefa parse for every healer

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what a good support main

grizzled seal
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switching between healers is not super hard tbh

woeful prawn
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#healslut

grizzled seal
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NO

hybrid rapids
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i didn't upload any logs this tier

woeful prawn
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i tried healing kefka on white mage and i felt retarded

hybrid rapids
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just PUGs run

grizzled seal
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whm is the most straightforward imo

azure hill
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I've never healed ex or savage, but I imagine the main difficulty is learning the timing of damage

hybrid rapids
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whm can be hard

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depends on player

azure hill
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After that, it should be fairly straightforward to switch healer class

woeful prawn
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yeah you dont really have cool shit to throw out except like a stalled plenary during chain aoe

grizzled seal
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whm healing is pretty dependant on your party

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to mitigate properly

hybrid rapids
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nah, healers are much easier to time the uptime

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it's basically 100%

woeful prawn
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ok yeah fuck thats the worst

hybrid rapids
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instead of stance dancing like 3.x

woeful prawn
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my friends first entry into kefka normal was double white mage

azure hill
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Eep

woeful prawn
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he kept pming me "why does light of judgement hurt so much"

azure hill
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No shields doesn't sound fun

grizzled seal
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LOL

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i remember healing o3s with double whm like week 5 or 6

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i never had less fun

azure hill
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What about that time with that AST? paissasquint

hybrid rapids
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a whole group of players who don't know when to do mitigation expecting a carry from me

grizzled seal
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well i played with friends

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so it was okaish

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still sucked hard

paper torrent
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C R I T A L D O

wet stag
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Aldo

grizzled seal
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there's also still the mindset that you should mainheal

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as whm in some pugs

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the worst tho

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is prob people popping and indom into wisphering dawn/medica 2

paper torrent
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and then 20 seconds later

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"I had no heals UP"

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.....

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these fucking healers

woeful prawn
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i like how scholar has a useless spammable heal so im never expected to drop 2800 mp on a aoe every 15 seconds

pure yoke
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useless?

wet stag
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Physick?

grizzled seal
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succor

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it's good

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but you don't spam it to heal

paper torrent
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T H E S U C C

steep iris
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s u c c

steep iris
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tfw

pure yoke
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had to find some rando pug healer

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for weeklies

hybrid rapids
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I would join

pure yoke
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we finished

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do you even have an aether account?

hybrid rapids
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i was thinking

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how to play with 300~ms ping

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and with mudfish is 300

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without is like 400

paper torrent
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WHEEEZEE

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mudfish shaves off a 1/4th of your ping op

hybrid rapids
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oh wait

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average 220 ms

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i might can try a blm in aether

sudden wharf
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So I know how if you have double jobs it makes your LB gauge accumulate slower, but does it keep getting slower the more duplicates you have? Like 2 WHM, 2 WAR, 4 BLM or something.

paper torrent
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yes

jolly iron
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I cant be the only one annoyed by all the pfs not wanting duplicate jobs right? Like previous tiers you could clear with any comp, but suddenly now people need lb to clear things? Like no dupe strat for Byakko is the best strat but now no one knows how to adjust.

sudden wharf
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In my experience the melee LB really late in pugs anyways.

paper torrent
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i hit enrage in an o6s like that while progging

jolly iron
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Yeah it always is. I could always do it, but why should I when the next melee dps is literally like 1000 below me?

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I have a macro to tell them to do it but it just gets ignored lel

paper torrent
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also byakko is like that

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becuase you legit like, 30 seconds if not more of uptime

jolly iron
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If I die or if the melee is dead I'll lb but ugh

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Yeah the lb strat is fine for byakko

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Unless someone dcs and fucks the bar

paper torrent
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for savage it's more so to have more utility in the team throughout, the LB thing is just a bonus imo

jolly iron
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Like people cant adjust if that happens because they dont want to hit the tiger a little

paper torrent
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hasn't been an issue in my farms /shrug

jolly iron
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Yeah it's only happened once to me but it was a real feelsbadman

paper torrent
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i imagine that's a really shitty thing to feel

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imo it's more so because adjusting in "farms" is kinda not expected

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i know when i was doing byakko as WAR i just legit went through the motions

jolly iron
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Yeah

paper torrent
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not that's a good excuse for not dpsing tiger if the lb gen isn't on time

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but it's a reason

stable basin
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Yeah based on parses I've seen, LB normally contributes maybe 2.5% or so of the total damage

jolly iron
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I'm just tired of not being able to join savage traps later in the week because they dont want doubles

stable basin
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If pulled off successfully, Byakko tank LB effectively contributes about 10%

jolly iron
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Like if people knew their rotations you dont need lb for anything but 7 and 8 now

paper torrent
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if people knew their rotations

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ha

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nice

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joke

jolly iron
stable basin
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People do anything to shave off time in farms it seems, as tank mains know to their salt every time they see there's only room for one in HW primal farms (unless it's Thordan)

paper torrent
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we still can't half the people in PF to agree if savage healers need to DPS

jolly iron
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I actually haven't seen that many 0 dps healers since the 4.0 changes

sudden wharf
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Is it acceptable for one healer to do 10% of the healing if they do 2.5k dps?

jolly iron
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Maybe dos in the low 300s but never 0

paper torrent
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i usuallly see a DOT

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and nothing else

jolly iron
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Dps*

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Eh better than standing there doing nothing

sudden wharf
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The only time I see a healer do literally 0 dps is in low level dungeons.

paper torrent
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honlesty if a healer does 2.5k and we still clear

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i could fucking care less

jolly iron
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It depends on the other healer I imaginen

paper torrent
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if the other healer is also doing good numbers and doing good oGCDs idgaf

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that's the dream scenario

sudden wharf
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I was doing an O6S pug today where a healer was like that. Did ~2.5k dps, 10% of healing.

paper torrent
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you take what you can get in pugs though.

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to be fair

sudden wharf
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The other healer did like 600 dps but was constantly demanding mana shifts and stuff.

paper torrent
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HA.

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NO.

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There are like three mechs

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you need to acutally heal through

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AOE stack

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Kiss

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and Shear

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and maybe siren but you can easily do that with just one GCD

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because of d howl spam.

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oh yeah and that.

sudden wharf
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I actually got a bit triggered because the 600 dps healer would not do yellow (the other healer was pink).

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So the tank had to volunteer to do it.

paper torrent
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that tank

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is a fucking hero

sudden wharf
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I told the tank he could have my black, and I'd do yellow.

paper torrent
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sacrificing his uptime for yellow paint

sudden wharf
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Because that is just unfair.

paper torrent
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i hate healers who act like healing o6s is some kind of arduous stress test

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it really fucking isn't

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sure, o5s winds / head on is aids

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but half the damage in o6s if not more is from single target shit like kiss and shear

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literally throw that fucker a bension or an excog and he's fucking good to go

sudden wharf
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I remember progging o5s with my DRK when it first came out, scratching my head as to how I could ration my mitigation to survive every head on in melee.

paper torrent
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oh god

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DRK in o5s

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PLD just adds so much value

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it's not even funny

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i mean DRK/PLD is good

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but holy shit that fight without PLD as another tank

sudden wharf
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Yeah, that fight made me seriously question why I didn't level a PLD instead.

paper torrent
#

like, cover + tempered will

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plus passager

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divine viel during winds too is a life saver

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heck, cover for TBs as well is super nice

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lets the WAR or DRK have some breathing room with CDs

sudden wharf
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In my progs I mostly saw the PLDs using hollowed ground on the ghost. Not sure if that's optimal.

paper torrent
#

PFFFFHHH FUCK THAT

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HG HEAD ON

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YEEEEEEEEEE

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you can survive using reprisal and sentinel for sure

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i can survive with 30% using sentinel and sheltron

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very cozy

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slightly more with reprisal

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that's like, 25k or something

sudden wharf
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Yeah, that was my big issue with DRK. I had to use my big cooldowns on ghost, so I'd have nothing for head on.

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Living Dead? Hah.

paper torrent
#

iirc it is magical

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so you could DADM meme

sudden wharf
#

The ghost tank buster?

paper torrent
#

yea

sudden wharf
#

Ahh.

boreal edge
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@paper torrent head on is physical

paper torrent
#

i'm

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talking about agony ghost

boreal edge
#

ah

paper torrent
#

i'm not that retarded

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but that does sound like something i'd do

boreal edge
paper torrent
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iirc you just need TBN and DM

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works wonders

sudden wharf
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There's nothing magical about being rammed by a train.

paper torrent
#

HEAVY THRUST

boreal edge
#

chimney hit is magical

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imagine

paper torrent
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inb4 why are you eve going into train cars anyway

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just WAR skip

boreal edge
#

have your rdm do it

paper torrent
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RDM skip op

boreal edge
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since its useless in 99% of content

sudden wharf
#

I have never once seen an RDM skip.

paper torrent
#

i saw it once

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it was glorious

boreal edge
#

we do it all the tome here

#

time*

paper torrent
#

i saw an RDM try to do it

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he didn't even get close

boreal edge
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tho rdm skip need to be more geared

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unlike war

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like close to i360 to do it safe

paper torrent
#

i heard you need tome weapon at least and it's recommend to have aug tome

sudden wharf
#

With how people tend to do in the pugs I've been in, I wouldn't trust them to do it even with i370 gear.

paper torrent
#

also true

boreal edge
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i heard mch also can do it

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but it cost em alot

paper torrent
#

does it involve some stupid WF meme

boreal edge
#

you literally sacrifice your burst for rest of fight to do that skip

paper torrent
#

is it

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even worth it at that point

boreal edge
#

if u wanna do o5s differently it is

paper torrent
#

but

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why tho

boreal edge
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@paper torrent doing things differently like mitigating head on without running away

paper torrent
#

i respect that

hybrid rapids
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cleared 5s - 7s 1 shot

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8s 2 shot yesterday

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was a smooth run

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until someone loot mistake hahaha

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interesting thing is how JP player handle this

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the recruiter himself and the person loot mistake take responsibility

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pass on the coffer

tiny kraken
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How likely am i able to reasonably tackle/clear O7S and O8S with Eureka gear? xD

wet stag
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If ur good at ur class

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Should be ok

hybrid rapids
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  • 7 other good players
tiny kraken
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My ACT says I can reliably get 4.5k dps as SAM when I first went in O7S prog >w<

hybrid rapids
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4.5k is kinda low

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but you can do it !

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hi tiff

unique wolf
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you will need at least 5k to clear

hybrid rapids
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patch 4.3 buff SAM potency tho

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should be easier to hit 5k

unique wolf
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5k is like the bare minimim to clear

tiny kraken
#

I figured.. >w<
Aside from food/potion which i never bothered until now.. I'd probably need to have someone who can give me advice on rotations

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...As soon as I can figure out how to set up uploading parses on fflogs x3

hybrid rapids
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join the balance discord

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mentor can help you

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!faq jobguide

storm frostBOT
hybrid rapids
#

here's a guide from the balance

tiny kraken
#

thankies for the links..
Oh wow.. I've been stuck on using the 1 sen opener at 1.2k SkS for the longest time and it seems to be not an optimal idea

brave maple
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sees guide

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addes to personal guide collection

wet stag
#

NEW O7S BEST BOIIIIIIIIIIIII

#

!whologs @wet stag

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (1111/11119) [4216.93 DPS] [95.5 Historical] [8:59]
Dark Knight: (350/5279) [3753.58 DPS] [96.1 Historical] [8:14]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (3875/10475) [4214.45 DPS] [78.5 Historical] [9:12]
Dark Knight: (584/5314) [4287.06 DPS] [90.4 Historical] [8:44]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (5633/7511) [3656.81 DPS] [33.1 Historical] [11:18]
Dark Knight: (592/3116) [3950.24 DPS] [81.2 Historical] [11:11]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (4397/5567) [3641.99 DPS] [25.6 Historical] [6:48]
Dark Knight: (946/2103) [3647.96 DPS] [57.9 Historical] [6:33]

zinc vortex
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hey congrats

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nice job

wet stag
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ye ty

scenic patrol
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Grats

dull radish
#

nice <3

zinc vortex
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i got a new best on o7s too yesterday

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felt pretty good

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after like what, 5 weeks?

dull radish
#

yeah I've slowly been getting better runs in some fights

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still haven't beaten my best 5 from like a month ago haha

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and still hoping to join 7k club on god kefka >.>

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getting a clear with AST will probably help when we get around to it

zinc vortex
#

we're doing good on god kefka too

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halfway through 3rd forsaken, best pull at 39%

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with a lot of deaths of course :x

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and no lb usage outside of healer lb for progression's sake

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!whologs @zinc vortex

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Red Mage: (2682/6878) [4678.94 DPS] [87.0 Historical] [9:47]
Black Mage: (449/4826) [5917.92 DPS] [93.6 Historical] [7:05]
Summoner: (1089/6411) [5670.02 DPS] [87.9 Historical] [6:52]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Red Mage: (3316/6141) [4983.89 DPS] [85.0 Historical] [10:01]
Black Mage: (401/4738) [6565.72 DPS] [93.3 Historical] [7:46]
Summoner: (2486/6065) [5639.53 DPS] [86.7 Historical] [8:28]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Black Mage: (246/2766) [6234.72 DPS] [90.7 Historical] [10:19]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Black Mage: (588/1962) [5713.1 DPS] [71.5 Historical] [6:33]

zinc vortex
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still hoping to join the purple club on kefka one day

dull radish
#

kefka's dumb to parse sometimes

lusty oak
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my parse are shit

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!whologs @lusty oak

storm frostBOT
#
FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Bard: (1989/9945) [5010.14 DPS] [92.2 Historical] [7:18]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Bard: (2461/9466) [5584.11 DPS] [79.9 Historical] [8:23]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Bard: (1605/6980) [5495.76 DPS] [80.1 Historical] [11:06]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Bard: (2260/5256) [4904.72 DPS] [57.9 Historical] [6:31]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Bard: (1606/3650) [5624.91 DPS] [57.6 Historical] [10:28]

zinc vortex
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yeah pepothink

scenic patrol
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I got purple first clear

zinc vortex
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i dont know what it is but the parses in my entire group on kefka are so much lower than on any other fight

scenic patrol
#

!whologs @scenic patrol

storm frostBOT
#
FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (2223/11119) [3944.27 DPS] [80.4 Historical] [7:56]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (2933/10475) [4340.47 DPS] [76.3 Historical] [9:04]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (1126/7511) [4308.63 DPS] [87.8 Historical] [11:27]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (1224/5567) [4075.1 DPS] [78.1 Historical] [6:50]

dull radish
#

short fight, and with BLM having fewer clears

#

means that there's a lot of sway with small increases in dps

zinc vortex
#

i noticed my DPS fluctuates a lot in that fight

#

especially on opener

#

it can be like

#

between 6.5 and 9k

#

anywhere between like 6k and 7.5k going into first graven image

#

its really weird

dull radish
#

one time I pulled off 60%+ dh crit opener haha

spice comet
#

Kefka have to be greedier for parse, also the fire spread n stack paissasquint

dull radish
#

was like 13k for a bit

#

felt good

#

well you can just kinda be in place for BLM for either

scenic patrol
#

Just preposition for spread and use manipulation for stack?

zinc vortex
#

damn o:

dull radish
#

no

#

stack marker is huge

zinc vortex
#

i can get like uhhh

#

anywhere between 6 and 15% crit in the opener on average

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and like 10-20% dh

dull radish
#

unless healer is super far forwards when they stack, you can catch it

zinc vortex
#

we dont have a bard for the crit buff and bv

dull radish
#

otherwise (and in pugs) you can easily make one side of ley lines for stack, one side ofr spread

zinc vortex
#

also doesn't help that i have like 900 crit

spice comet
#

Sch?

dull radish
#

it's moreso that latter bit

spice comet
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Chain strat crit boost too

dull radish
#

900 crit is pretty unfortunate

zinc vortex
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determination for days though

dull radish
#

I finally got higher crit build done

zinc vortex
#

still need 3 crit accesories, and no chest/weapon with crit either

dull radish
#

2500+ crit feels good

scenic patrol
#

You don't sound determined though

zinc vortex
#

probably because im not

#

game's terrible to play right now imo

#

just more and more of the same rehashed content every patch

#

the only time i even log in is to raid with the fc

spice comet
#

Its so dead actually

zinc vortex
#

i wouldn't say it's dead. just no longer fun or interesting from the perspective of a long time player

scenic patrol
#

Raid logging is the only thing I am excited about

spice comet
#

paissasquint that legit what like im feeling most the population do

zinc vortex
#

i like god kefka as a fight though, very fun.

spice comet
#

Raid day all the login, other days no ones on

zinc vortex
#

but that's about it unfortunately

lusty oak
#

no long terms awards is bad

#

i mean look at WoW

scenic patrol
#

I forgot normal mode existed already

lusty oak
#

they suffered it since cata

#

until Allied Races rep grind

spice comet
#

Ppl will be online more with new eureka i guess paissasquint

lusty oak
#

every fucking one now subs to grind rep

zinc vortex
#

i mean as long as they keep shoehorning the relic into eureka yeah

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im fairly sure that if the relic wasn't in eureka it wouldn't be nearly as populated as it is

spice comet
#

Prob not, its too afk

zinc vortex
#

im done with the allied races rep grind on wow too pepehands

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so i guess all that's left to do

#

is make a lightforged draenei and RP pepocheer

lusty oak
#

normal mod is a thing

woeful prawn
#

i do it for the weekly token

dull radish
#

We've let so many of the tomes drop to the floor in O6S in my group

scenic patrol
#

Same

#

"Anyone wants it?"
"I repeat, does anyone want the tomestone?"

junior basin
#

I'm my groups trash collector. I just greed everything to make sure it doesn't.

zinc vortex
#

same

#

i have more savage drops for my healer and dragoon than i do for my main

scenic patrol
#

Me and the DRG compete for Monk/Samurai gear

#

Since it's both our off spec

#

Seen a lot of DRG/NIN gear hit the floor

dull radish
#

We try to make sure stuff doesn't hit the floor at least

#

But it means I have gear for jobs that I probably won't use for months

junior basin
#

Same.

unreal flax
#

I'm not raiding on my Levi character. Fuck all that.

dull radish
#

aww

unreal flax
#

I'mma level AST lol

#

It'll be easier on my thumb

woeful prawn
#

easier? you know all healers do is smash dat space bar and cast cure 1

unreal flax
#

I play on controller. Mashing out GCDs and oGCDs on DRG for hours is a lot more taxing than being an honest healer lol

#

Actually, I think I'll be a crafter/gatherer for a while

pastel portal
#

just become a miner main fam

#

like me

#

so much more relaxing its very blobmorning

dull radish
#

<3

azure hill
#

Hey, there's nothing more relaxing than gathering on the Azim Steppe at night

pastel portal
#

Dude the azim steppe is so under used. I love that place. Cant wait for best tribes and gathering quests there

azure hill
#

Considering the next beast tribe is the Namazu, I think those are going to be in Yanxia

#

Which is so drab in comparison blobcatverysad

opaque temple
#

Don't remember any beast tribe activity in the steppes either

unreal flax
#

There wasn't any

#

Just... tribes

spice comet
#

Those squeak squeak squeak fishys

azure hill
#

Yeah, with three tribes and a major hub based there, there isn't much room for anyone else

#

But!

#

There is a new delivery NPC coming that is confirmed not a miqote

#

That could be a Mol

unreal flax
#

Namazu are gonna be doing stuff in that zone, though. Kinda like how the Vath would send you to Coerthas West and Dravanian Hinterlands for their story stuff

azure hill
#

That's true

#

Oh man

#

I hope it's a Mol NPC now

unreal flax
#

(Yoshi, you have permission to use my idea here)

spice comet
#

๐Ÿ‘€

#

Oh maybe it is mol

#

Would make sense, that b neat

unreal flax
#

(You also have permission to use my Rowena as the final boss idea)

azure hill
#

It's more likely it's connected to the Doman reconstruction storyline

#

But fingers crossed

spice comet
#

Rowena is so rich she would fight us with money

unreal flax
#

She's fattening us up for the slaughter

spice comet
#

We ded

unreal flax
#

In the trial, she's gonna summon Khloe adds.

#

divebombs

shut vine
#

Greetings everyone

dull radish
#

Heya

unreal flax
#

DID YOU KNOW THAT IF ALL EIGHT PEOPLE STACK INK, THE DAMAGE OVERFLOWS AND WE GET INVULN FOR 30 MINUTES???

#

#STRATS

dull radish
#

I do always wonder, tier by tier, if there's any mechanic that people never truly figured out how it was supposed to work and just did it some other way instead

#

Like good ole A12S haha

#

holy scourge or whatever, that stupid hard TB final phase, was actually a shared buster

woeful prawn
#

after the soaks?

dull radish
#

yeah

woeful prawn
#

but... who takes the last soak then ?_?

dull radish
#

hmm?

#

it was soaks -> holy bleed -> holy scourge aka fuck you prey

woeful prawn
#

i think im confused actually . i never got far in 12s only seen videos

spice comet
#

Shared buster i think we just got good at cheesing those

dull radish
#

yeah it was basically that holy scourge from first phase that was on two dps, except in this case it was on MT, and hit for a ton more damage, ending with one giant last hit

spice comet
woeful prawn
#

ohhh

dull radish
#

yeah people would just invuln, and if for some reason you saw more you'd sac

#

folks just assumed it was a really hard-hitting buster and left it at that

woeful prawn
#

well a prey marker doesnt really seem intuitive as a share

spice comet
#

Lol just nope we ded

dull radish
#

but much later on, like diadem weapon meme time

spice comet
#

Idk theres o8s kefka hyperdrive i guess where u dont get bleed

woeful prawn
#

prey is historically a get the fuck away. and then we have prey in o7s which doesnt even splash.

spice comet
#

If u shield the dmg

dull radish
#

someone was reviewing a video of like world fifth or something, because apparently that group never figured out judgement crystal placement + inception and thought it was funny and worth watching again

#

but then was so confused as they took the double buster last phase instead of just invuln

#

was like aya or somebody

spice comet
#

Oo

sullen sable
#

I was really mad when I found out holy scourge was shared.

#

We had like 6 wipes because our warrior got crushed by it while we were learning

#

12 mins or whatever into the fight

spice comet
#

I still remember the first shin ex guide from mr happy that said just deal with the wyrmwave paissasquint

#

And then i think my farm pt was one of the first to say "hey guys i saw a glowy circle in the center" tested it n it work, good times

woeful prawn
#

wyrmwave wouldve been better if it flashed a donut aoe 1s before it pops

spice comet
#

I cant think of any in sigma besides 8s probs, sometimes i prevent bleed on pld during hyper to get some recovery time for ded dps namazuthink only one i see pug healers not know

woeful prawn
#

cause apparently its not enough to be sitting just far in to have the doom debuff. its just an actual donut aoe?

pure yoke
#

Hi

sullen sable
stable basin
#

LOL Brit

#

You're reminding me of my old WoW raid leader who'd always tell us standing in fire gave us a haste buff

unreal flax
#

loool

sour solstice
#

About how many 70s does it take to Unsyc the Coils of Bahamut?

steady pebble
#

pretty sure you can solo/duo a bit of it

#

A few might need a light/full party

normal mesa
#

the first one, like legit binding coil 1, i can solo it easy on smn

#

some others, less so

steady pebble
#

its mostly second coil that get that has a few turns that requires several people

woeful prawn
#

you can trio everything, duo most, solo some

steady pebble
#

mhm, trio would probably be the safest bet to go with

spice comet
#

Been soloing them on rdm, t9 is an extreme pain, take a friend to be on the safer side

stable basin
#

1-4 are easy solos, 4 might need care if you are not a tank because there are max HP debuffs

#

5 you gotta do mechs, like Levi Ex it's "how confident are you?"

#

9 is really hard to solo if you can do it at all. 7 mechs seem doable but last time I tried got dogpiled to death by adds way too early. Haven't tried 6 or 8

#

I haven't gotten around to clearing 9 so I haven't seen 10-13, or know how savage coil goes at 70

#

(Literally the only content i can't access atm is t10-13, t6-9 savage, ucob, and o7-8 savage)

spice comet
#

I duoed them all so it wasnt bad but lvl 70 and 340 gear alrdy too op ๐Ÿ’ฆ

torn kindle
#

Actually for T5 you could just enrage cheese as a healer

#

DPS it down to before Twintania dive bombs and wait for enrage

#

It's a weak enrage at level 70. Just spams like a 10k aoe

pure yoke
#

well

#

Levi EX is now

#

let the warrior kill the boss

#

ignore mechanics

steady pebble
#

levi ex is "group dies to ulti, warrior solos the rest"

pure yoke
#

faster to let everyone die and let warrior finish up

#

than wait ten thousand years

#

for the charge up

worthy vigil
#

So what is the current speedrun healer combo? My static is debating ast/whm or shc/whm. Iโ€™m thinking ast/sch?

wet stag
#

U right

#

Ast/sch

worthy vigil
#

Thought so. Thanks

stable basin
#

I main rdm these days eff meta lol

#

Omg my phone automatically suggests "meta" after "eff"

wet stag
#

I mean he was specifically asking about speedruns so

pure yoke
#

:l

#

even though most serious prog groups had a RDM

#

and unless you are legit speeding

#

I don't see why take out the RDM

stable basin
#

Hivemind-ism probably Mug

#

Once the pf hive mind latches onto something there's a tendency for much of the player base to think it has to be done that way

#

(And generally it doesn't and often gets very annoying for people who are not part of the meta)

wet stag
#

Who's taking out the rdm

#

?

#

What

scenic patrol
#

If people want to speed run, then all power to them

#

I think less of people who are locked to a job, tbh

wet stag
#

ablobwave hi am locked to drk

stable basin
#

@scenic patrol Eh if you aren't week one savage it's hard to have many geared jobs

scenic patrol
#

I can play 2 tanks at decent level

#

I can play Melee as well after a bit of adjustment

stable basin
#

I can PLD or RDM, but on the flip side combined with a late entry to Savage I only have both at 355

scenic patrol
#

And I am by no mean week one clearing

wet stag
#

I can only play 2tanks badly

scenic patrol
#

You being 355 is entirely your fault

wet stag
#

Yeah it's been 12(?) Weeks

stable basin
#

SMN at 354 but not as well practiced in it (and I've only done EX as PLD, not Savage Sigma)

wet stag
#

If you haven't been capping ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

scenic patrol
#

I have MNK at 357

#

It's my freaking off job

wet stag
#

Welp, welfare gear next patch

#

And pagos

scenic patrol
#

I brought down my ilvl by 1 to have slower GCD

#

Warrior optimization is fun

#

I can be 362, but that means having 2.35 GCD

#

So I swapped out raid boots to Tomes

#

Augment in 4 weeks

#

!whoami

storm frostBOT
wet stag
#

Ya know

#

I was actually thinking of bringing my gcd to 2.36 for kefka

scenic patrol
#

DRK or WAR?

wet stag
#

Godka I mean

#

Drk

lyric summit
#

i was 365 like week 5 only missing weapon and chest or something, robbed my static of upgrades accidently

wet stag
#

So it's easier to fit bloodspiller in during celestriad

scenic patrol
#

I only need two drops to be BiS

#

One weave and weapon

#

BiS in 5-6 weeks at current rate

wet stag
#

Since now I'm going to my spot for celestriad and ending with 54 blood

scenic patrol
#

The week after next we moving to 3 days a week raid schedule

#

So much more prog time

wet stag
#

If I can fit bloodspiller in I can tbn celestriad

scenic patrol
#

I dunno why you need to TBN there

#

Healers will AOE heal anyways

#

I only pop SiO there for safety

wet stag
#

I mean

#

Deleting celestriad is comfy

scenic patrol
#

If it let's you tank ice, then sure

#

But I don't see the value otherwise

wet stag
#

Fair

scenic patrol
#

Ice doesn't do much damage

#

Maybe try tanking it with DM + TBN?

#

UPTIME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

wet stag
#

Eh I'm nowhere near optiming yet lol

#

I like my healers

scenic patrol
#

Talk with them, I am sure they'll be fine if you TBN there to eat ice

wet stag
#

I just wanna clear REEEEEE

scenic patrol
#

As long as you don't get debuffed

wet stag
#

Hit 5% enrage last night

scenic patrol
#

With Vulnerability or Healing down

dull radish
#

blizzard doesn't give a debuff but why eat ice

#

you don't really lose uptime

#

by doing the mechanic

scenic patrol
#

It's just fun to think of it from DRK perspective

pure yoke
#

what about blizzard

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I just pop sprint

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and weave in and out

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between the gcd

wet stag
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Espresso you do north celestriad yeah?

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Idk if you can weave on mid

dull radish
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if anything mid celestriad makes it easier

wet stag
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I'll try that next time then

scenic patrol
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Hmmm, maybe I'll try mid Celestriad

pure yoke
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I do north celestriad

scenic patrol
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I am still progging

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So it's good space to try new ways to do it

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Only reason I want to try mid Celestriad is to not drag boss for F1

wet stag
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It's really comfy

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Only thing is that positioning is pretty tight

woeful prawn
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you want to TBN the autoattacks that happen after celestriad -> ultima

wet stag
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He needs to be directly in the middle

woeful prawn
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healer wise at least.

wet stag
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Hm

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True

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Ok then I won't change my gcd

dull radish
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positioning isn't too bad for mid celestriad, I know it's pretty cozy for my tanks to do reliably

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if you're a little off it's no big deal

wet stag
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My static makes it seem like a huge deal

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And I've fucked it up more than once for sure

pure yoke
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my static is just used to side celestriad

gaunt crown
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Hey! me and my static are looking for two melee DPS for our group. Preferably DRG and a NIN but we will take what we can.

hybrid rapids
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state your server / datacenter

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and current progress

scenic patrol
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DC and schedule are the most important things

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For recruitment

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@gaunt crown

fluid bane
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Kinda old news but In shiva today I avoided being frozen by using the mega flare emote. And I ran around while everyone else was frozen. The same thing happened in a12s when I respawned during the time stop mechanic. Canโ€™t confirm this but I think megaflare emote might allow you to skip other content too

boreal edge
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we did mid celestriad

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at 1st

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but smn fucked up way too much in its positioning made us go to north celestriad

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after all

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he use celestriad twice in whole fight

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1 after hyper the other right after 2nd forsaken LoJ

hybrid rapids
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@ใใฟ ใกใ‚ƒใ‚“#3672 respawned in timestop always avoid being frozen

scenic patrol
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!whologs @wet stag

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (1120/11200) [4216.93 DPS] [95.5 Historical] [8:59]
Dark Knight: (361/5311) [3753.58 DPS] [96.1 Historical] [8:14]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (3903/10551) [4214.45 DPS] [78.5 Historical] [9:12]
Dark Knight: (589/5357) [4287.06 DPS] [90.4 Historical] [8:44]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (5688/7584) [3656.81 DPS] [33.1 Historical] [11:18]
Dark Knight: (599/3153) [3950.24 DPS] [81.2 Historical] [11:11]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (4443/5625) [3641.99 DPS] [25.6 Historical] [6:48]
Dark Knight: (959/2132) [3647.96 DPS] [57.9 Historical] [6:33]

scenic patrol
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!whologs @scenic patrol

storm frostBOT
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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (2240/11200) [3944.27 DPS] [80.4 Historical] [7:56]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (2954/10551) [4340.47 DPS] [76.3 Historical] [9:04]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (1137/7584) [4308.63 DPS] [87.8 Historical] [11:27]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Warrior: (1237/5625) [4075.1 DPS] [78.1 Historical] [6:50]

wet stag
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4.3k hahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Rip

scenic patrol
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๐Ÿ˜

wet stag
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Maybe once I get diamond weap

paper torrent
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fucking destoryed

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also 4.3 is purple?

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the FUCK?

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what a shitshow

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people trying to get free 90s smh

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also damn johni

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4k on guardian/

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sick

scenic patrol
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I got better at the game

wet stag
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I'm aiming for 3.9k on clown

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My blue clown feelsbad

scenic patrol
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Clown is a fight that cucks persistent DPS jobs so fucking hard

stable basin
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how do you unlock bahamut ultimate

wet stag
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Clear o4s

stable basin
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oh ok ty

zinc vortex
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clown do me a frown pepehands

topaz wolf
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o7s

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last phase

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ultros spawns, i triplecast, fireiv, take aggro

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keep aggro and die

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fun times

zinc vortex
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team holding you back eh

topaz wolf
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random pug

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static disbanded so im out pugging weekly clears

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the memes are hilarious

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i got spanked by ultros multiple times today

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feelsgood

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spank me daddy ultros

paper torrent
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One of us

topaz wolf
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i got a static lined up for friday and next week

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weeklies and optimization

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but its temporary for 6 weeks

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feelsbadman

paper torrent
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f

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Inb4 they wipe to ultros

pure yoke
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Inb4 they wipe to flash fire

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Inb4 they wipe to shockwave

topaz wolf
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most of the issues will arise with my positioning just being better for myself than the group

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ill figure out a middle ground and go from there

pure yoke
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Wait how is that possible

topaz wolf
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mm

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for example

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at the start of o7s

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i situate myself south so that i can be in position for both biblio and chakra

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but if they do melee strat

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im too far away for aoe heals

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and prey can be trouble because im out of cover range too

pure yoke
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Wait what

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Usually the tank just moves the boss whatever and the rest of the party follow

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You got plenty of time to react to pads

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Assuming they are looking at the screen

topaz wolf
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yeah thats uptime suicide for me as i cant effectively move far south for biblio and chakra

pure yoke
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You don't have to move so far

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And the boss can be dragged after pads

topaz wolf
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im usually standing a bit north of where the south biblio spot is

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place LL there

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mmm

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thats if im south

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for chakra

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the start is a mess for blm and it needs communication so we gotta figure out how the hell to go about fixing that

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but thats the best example

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of what i was talking about

lusty oak
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@topaz wolf for biblio aether manipulation or save thunder/fire proc

topaz wolf
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usually for biblio iits i stand on the biblio spot then i use swift and/or a proc to move to the other spot

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clipping am and then clipping swift on top of that just delays the gcd too much

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if im west for chakra and the ranged start at west for biblio and go south, then i can stand close to the group for aoe heals and cover

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all the other options are dumb

dull radish
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Just don't take south chakra, high chance of missing raid buffs or other dumb stuff

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And/or manaward the atomic ray, then you only need healing if you get prey