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#endgame-lounge
fading shoal
heavy mist
but stuff happens
fading shoal
might try o6n
hybrid rapids
practice your rotation first
fading shoal
i just said i did .-.
heavy mist
assuming u have it down
fading shoal
b-but you cant mess up a rotation in stone sky sea due to mechanics
hybrid rapids
nvm
i just jelly
it's like around 3 days passed
i'm still practicing my rotation
lmao
fading shoal
if i mess up one thing my entire rotation will fall apart as mch
and that happens when muh mechanicks happen
also downtime
also when you do rotations in front of dumym you dont have to move .-.
thorn elm
Full 335 Eureka set, Should i keep farming until its Max?
azure hill
Depends on whether you care about savage or want it to be dyable or not
At 335 you're sufficiently geared to do any of the regular content in the game
lyric dawn
Well mostly end game and also doig raids savage
Mix of 360 and nornal sigma 350 gear
But in general aspect what should a whm meld normally?
steady pebble
secondaries for healers are kind of what you prefer. Generally tho don't want to stack piety
but crit/det/sps are fine
crit is often the one a lot of people go heavy on
steady pebble
spell speed
lyric dawn
Ahem oh hhmmhm
lusty oak
u need base VIT to meet certain mechanics in raids, after that go ham on DH
steady pebble
and its more of what you prefer
i personally do not like spell speed, so i don't meld it at all
steep iris
not based on slots, it's based on which isn't capped yet
lusty oak
and some piety might be good idea for time while u learn fights and how to handle healing
steep iris
personally i just put crit whenever i can and det where i can't
steady pebble
for progression: you want to meld vit, possibly a bit of piety
to help give you breathing room
after you've gotten use to fights/better gear: crit, det or spell speed depending on your preferred style
steady pebble
that's up to you to decided. like i said its a personal preference/playstyle thing
lyric dawn
Hmmm
steady pebble
like for me: I don't like spell speed because I'm use to spells taking a certain amount of time to cast
so i already know how long i can/should wait before i start casting a heal
spell speed reduces that so i have to relearn timings
steady pebble
Does it feel good enough to you?
steady pebble
like this is a question you need to ask yourself
steady pebble
then that person needs to ask that question to themselvs
lyric dawn
But even wirh 1219 rhey say it feels slow
steady pebble
Like playstyle is how you as a person like to play
so if that person feels fine with 1219 spell speed, then its fine
if they feel like its not quick enough, then perhaps they should meld more
spice comet
if theyre fully slotted in spell speed n still want to go fast cant help u there
lavish cobalt
Hey guys, i need to find an endgame-ish bracelet and belt, any recommendation? recently hit 70 and kinda lost with all the raid infos xd
azure hill
By your name, I'm assuming you play DRG?
lavish cobalt
Yes haha '^^
azure hill
Basically, for both, you want the Diamond one
As a dragoon, yo don't want any item with skill speed on it
lavish cobalt
It doesn't really sound a bell to me, where could i get those diamond ones? :o
I've heard savage raids a couple times and something about crafted
azure hill
They drop from Sigmascape V1 Savage
azure hill
Until then, you're best off going for the highest ilvl ones obtainable
Carborundum Tassets of Maiming and Carborundum Bracelet of Slaying (both SIgma normal, obtainable in the same week) look like decent choices
And then work your way up in terms of ilvl
lavish cobalt
Alright thanks Cryovat for the info!
azure hill
In general, you should prioritize crit and direct hit, try to aim for a similar number in both
Then use determination as a filler stat
Skill speed is generally the devil
azure hill
The "issue" is that if your skill speed is too high, your buffs will gradually get out of sync
So things like Blood For Blood will be coming off cooldown at the wrong time with regards to your rotation, and you'll have to do mental gymnastics to compensate for it
thorn elm
So are statics looked to realm or shard?
ripe vessel
datacentres
spice comet
Not sure what shard is, but yeah datacenter, since u have cross server pts
azure hill
Raid buffs + sharing food/potions is a good reason to be on the same server/FC though
steady pebble
fc buffs can be gotten around
if you're willing to put in the time and effort to do squadrons
thorn elm
Just about to look for a savage static
azure hill
Good luck!
thorn elm
as a tank so ill prob fail
spice comet
U can still pug o5s and o6s in the meantime as well
azure hill
Yeah, most groups will be on to 7 or 8 by now
And even if you find a group just starting out, experience is always a good thing
spice comet
Yea its a bit late in the tier so most in 7 or 8
thorn elm
0 exp in ff lots in other mmo thou
sterile geyser
watch fight vidyas and practice rotations, pug where you can while applying to a static. If you're still fairly new, aim for OT rather than MT it's probably the most forgiving role
sterile geyser
fflogs is not something you want to innundate someone new with; itll just make them feel bad for their grey parses lol
spice comet
To check how u r when u want to join one
thorn elm
Im very familar with warcraftlogs
stable basin
Use ACT to keep a track of your progress if that's the way you wanna go
spice comet
Well no, but all the statics i ever joined always asked for logs n trials so get familiar with it if ur srs about savage
Depends if u just wanna kinda test the water yea look for a casual static, do some o5s and o6s for some raid experience
Videos, rotations, etc
azure hill
I don't know about warcraftlogs, but note that fflogs doesn't take ilvl into account
And a lot of people are at BiS already
So percentiles are skewed at the moment
steady pebble
pretty sure fflogs works exactly like warcraftlogs does
since its...the same person
spice comet
i forgot about the ilvl
steady pebble
running both
brave maple
I really wish that somehow FFLogs tracked iLvl
azure hill
Yeah, but WoW exports more data
steady pebble
mhm true
steady pebble
oh yeah, i totally forgot about the gear part
since you can see what legendaries are used by ppl on each fight too
sour solstice
the lego system was so shit you didn't even need to look to figure it out tho
stable basin
Yeah but there's no ranking breakdown by legendaries
So if you don't get the good ones even your ilvl % is fucked
thorn elm
Could some1 give me a run down of the raiding scene, i understand there's normal/savage but what does o3 mean?
steady pebble
it refers to the floor
So for the example: o3
That is talking about Deltascape V3.0
thorn elm
Ah k
steady pebble
the reason why its called o3, instead of like dv3 or something that is because the overall raid serious is called "Omega"
thorn elm
so o8 is the latest raid?
scenic patrol
3rd fight in Creator
steady pebble
o8 is the last floor for the latest raid tier yeah
scenic patrol
O5 to O8 are all latest raids
steady pebble
which is Sigmascape v4.0
scenic patrol
They got released together
thorn elm
1 boss per floor?
steady pebble
mhm
thorn elm
And o4 is last floor of deltascape im guessing
steady pebble
mhm
scenic patrol
Aye
thorn elm
And hows loot work?
steady pebble
for normal mode, its a token system. you're only allowed (for the moment) to win one piece of loot from a floor per week
scenic patrol
Only for current tier ^
steady pebble
with savage, its also on weekly lock out but you can potentially get all 4 items that drop
scenic patrol
Old tiers all restrictions are lifted
steady pebble
depending on your luck
thorn elm
So i could keep running normal mode until i get the loot i want?
steady pebble
there 2 pieces of gear, 2 upgrade items
scenic patrol
First floor in savage is only accessories + belt
steady pebble
yes
thorn elm
And are there first time bonus in normal?
steady pebble
yup
scenic patrol
Second floor is gloves, boots, helmet, tomestone for 360 weapon and tome accessories augment
2 gear items 2 misc items
thorn elm
im guessing most static master loot?
scenic patrol
Third floor is pants and gloves, while having weapon and armor upgrades
4th is weapon, weapon coffer and chest
And mount
Weapon is at random
thorn elm
Do i need to do o1-4 before 5-8?
steady pebble
you need to have done it atleast once, yes
scenic patrol
Can skip savage fights of previous tier
steady pebble
mhm
thorn elm
Thz makes things much clearer
toxic tide
is there anytime where +1 Weapon Damage is not worth getting? Suppose BRD has main crit on its weapon 5 ilevels lower, but no crit on its +1 WD weapon
lucid karma
if that 5ilvl lower also has 5 materia slots then it will be better for sure
then again while I know BRD relies heavily on crit, I don't know stat weight
scenic patrol
It depends
There is no straight forward answer
Let's take Warrior for example
Diamond >370 >anemos >360 >crafted pentamelded> Byakko > regular crafted
But I do not know about how BRD works in weapons
wet stag
Nah wd should give the same amount, approximately
Not much difference between 355 and 360
Should be, anyway
wet stag
What's the dps difference between 48 and blue?
Congrats btw
Rip
That's also crit luck lol
what class?
ah
I recommend joining the balance and getting your log (and your dignity) shredded to pieces
That's what I did 
And I'm okay at drk now
boreal edge
food barely do 20 extra dps
wet stag
Yeah but if it's crit food it could help Β―_(γ)_/Β―
torn kindle
"You let your dots fall off for 2.345342 seconds. I suggest committing Sudoku ASAP"
boreal edge
the vit gotten from food is more important than dps it give
scenic patrol
Ayy
torn kindle
monkaS
gusty vale
hey guys, where can i see what classes are the best for dps rn? :<
acoustic pier
Depends some jobs pull ahead in utility that allow them to be more useful even though said job is weaker
blazing pelican
look you're getting catch up gear, don't be surprised it has crap stats
blazing pelican
wet stag
i know lol im just saying
heavy mist
deal with it π
grizzled seal
there's an option in the launcher to export them
It's C:\Users\<name>\Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn
there should be a bunch of FFXIV_CHRxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx folders
UISAVE.DAT and KEYBIND.DAT are what you're looking for
lyric kelp
stable basin
Maybe someday
primal oak
!whologs @primal oak
storm frostBOT
dull radish
not bad <3
sullen sable
nice
topaz wolf
good β€
unique wolf
hybrid rapids
stable basin
hrm, am i getting the right impression that Sophia is the second hardest EX primal even now?
(#1 being Shinryu, of course)
junior basin
People where making fun of Sophia because how easy it was even before most of the jobs got knockback immunities.
Healers could carry that fight so hard because of how lenient the dps check was.
stable basin
I see more wipes there than I do on Sephirot or Zurvan, otoh
junior basin
Those two you can get carried through with our high itemlevels.
When it was current content, Sophia was regarded as one of the easier primals in a long time.
stable basin
hmmm
does she have a whole bunch of HP threshold mechanics so unsync you get mashed by mech onrush like Levi?
i'm not even sure just what we're doing wrong sometimes
dull radish
nothing of the sort
she moves to adds phase at a certain HP %
and you can push to skip certain mechanics
but it shouldn't cause overlap or anything
if anything it makes it easier
stable basin
also knockback immunity is surprisingly not quite as useful as it seems
in fact, in certain cases it can be a trap
short duration + you get the times when there's 2 in a row
and you get stuck at the wrong end lol
junior basin
She's one of the easier extreme primals but itemlevel won't save folks form falling off.
torn kindle
Honestly with Arms Length and Surecast she's gotten much easier
but she was definitely very hard at her time of release.
hot plover
the real end game is mini cactpot, housing, and glam
stable basin
fisher is the point of the game
hot plover
fishing overrated
dull radish
sophia wasn't especially hard on release
you had to have one person that knew what they were doing and everyone else could blindly follow them, nigh falling asleep
wooden nest
is the endgame equipment tool on garland tools accurate in terms of gear progression?
lyric summit
never heard of it/of anyone using it really
ariyala's the best for building gearsets
the balance discord/site/forum/whatever has best in slot lists
and if you just want to get your ilvl up then get mendacity gear + upgrades/gear from savage
paper torrent
you generally just follow ilevel
and try to keep at a good SKS/SPS
usually that means keeping it low or at certain thresholds
the ilevel is mostly important though because of mainstat
unreal flax
SophEx was never hard. SophEx was annoying as shit, though. But I was a MNK/DRG back then so itβs not like I had to do mechanics.
torn kindle
If Sophia was added now she would be super easy since a majority of jobs could ignore tilts
unreal flax
Yup
tiny kraken
Crafting question, what's the recommended Craft/Control/CP to reliably craft the HQ Ala Mhigan set? :o
woeful prawn
worst part of sophia was the mid-fight where she has two safe clones
and line nukes one of the safe ones
people hated me for just guessing the 50/50 cause then the boss is in melee range
boreal edge
sophia just need 1 person to know how tilts work
then its just trust your souls on that person
@woeful prawn its not guess work
just look at tethers
then the daughter will pop on 1 of safe spots
torn kindle
@tiny kraken I don't remember what the BiS is for making the Ala Mhigan stuff.
Maybe go for the augmented crafting gear?
boreal edge
should be possible with minimum stats
and as much cp as you can get
then spam that MAMA rotation
90 steps makers mark
steady pebble
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/7uqi5m/quick_crafter_gatherer_endgame_progression_guide/ has the minimum melds and mama macros for it
torn kindle
This has the relevant gearset for making the ala mhigan gear
since all the others use the set
final swan
Hey, I'm new and just hit lvl 70. I looked up some guides on how to progress but they seem outdated. What's the best thing to do to progress? my ilvl is 295
scenic patrol
Either just jump straight into Eureka and farm gear there
Or go Dungeons > creation > Sigmascape > Weekly Tomes
scenic patrol
Eureka is very efficient
Especially once you start to gear alts
And already at level cap there
torn kindle
Yeah it's very fast to get an i335 set quickly.
scenic patrol
That too
torn kindle
once you level up enough
tiny kraken
Was DRK melds DH/Det?
torn kindle
unless you also play war then I think so
scenic patrol
Crit/DH
No reason to meld anything else unless it brings you to a tier
Or you want a specific SkS
tiny kraken
Well i'm getting the Eureka set so it's pretty much specifically to DRK o/
as for sks well i feel like 1200 is comfortable enough
heavy mist
how much dps is it for godka?
unreal flax
seven
dull radish
and a half
tiny kraken
Erm.. Would something like this work..? ^^;
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/165C9
lyric summit
what are you guys talking about, you only need 4 dps in the party to clear o8s
lucid karma
yeah but each dps need to be 1.25 dps
visual gate
Is there a minimun direct hit needed or stat priority for Samurais late game?
lucid karma
afaik only real minimum is skill speed
there's no SAM change in 4.2 so this is still viable, at least to my knowledge
lavish cobalt
What are the requirements for unlock "The Jade Stoa (normal)"?
steady pebble
you need to complete hell's lid
lavish cobalt
I've completed Stormblood and i'm looking for Soroban but
steady pebble
the unlock quest for hell's lid is in the 4.2 msq
steady pebble
so if you've only completed the 60-70 portion of the msq
you'll just need to keep going
Hope on the Waves is the specific MSQ that will unlock the side quest for those two
lavish cobalt
I see it now, thanks!
dull radish
I officially get drunk RDM license for O8S <3
lavish cobalt
If i remember correctly the Auspicious kamuy can;t be bought with totems right?
steady pebble
not yet, no
sudden wharf
Does the fflogs parser thing take a lot of resources?
dull radish
well it's ACT that does the parsing, but not especially
stable basin
partly ACT, partly the fflogs site actually
dull radish
it's pretty low-key
stable basin
fflogs does some things different vs. how it is seen in ACT, and doesn't seem to care about how you did things in ACT at that
dull radish
well moreso ACT doesn't account for certain things, that fflogs tends to adjust for
but in general in answer to the question, nah ACT doesn't take much as far as resources
scenic patrol
Fflogs has TP/Mana
But not gauges
So seeing if people overcap Blood is impossible
dull radish
fflogs counts overkill and fixes encounter length/some network parsing stuff
scenic patrol
dull radish
err
adjusts for overkill*
ACT just kinda takes whatever and gives you a number
Yeah, and a few other factors sometimes
Moreso depending on job
But overkill is usually the biggest factor
pure yoke
or dot calculation
pure yoke
hey
it's nice to get a dps tax return
rather than a dps tax
O5S is Tax City
while Godka you get a tax return
lucid karma
O5S is a bitch for everyone involved tho
dull radish
tax return
dull radish
BLM thunder in ACT is just stupid for no good reason
so regardless of anyting we lose dps
cerulean pilot
@pure yoke ur drg god right?
pure yoke
I am drg yes
cerulean pilot
do I hold life of the dragon so that it lines up with either BFB or eye?
pure yoke
I wouldn't
I usually do life every minute flat'
unless a fight requires me to change it
cerulean pilot
I'm still having trouble figuring out the delayed life thing
pure yoke
you do geirskogul on cd
if you are 2 eyes and want to pop lotd on your next geirskogul
you do mirage dive first then geirskogul
if you want to hold it
after jump, you geirskogul then mirage
cerulean pilot
how do you determine if you want to hold or not?
pure yoke
it's important to keep jump and geirskogul on cd
depends on fight
in a dummy fight, I hold my first life until the first minute
because of trick attack
cerulean pilot
it isn't a dps loss tho if you hold life until your next jump right?
cerulean pilot
what I was doing was holding it until I'm sure I can get 1-2 to fit within BFB and similar for dragon sight
idk what to do to really improve my parses :/
pure yoke
@cerulean pilot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHnhlWOR-x8
I wouldn't really say copy exactly everything I do
but this should give you some idea
7022dps run
cerulean pilot
simply hitting a dummy for 10 mins I can't really go past like 5600 dps
cerulean pilot
well at 6 mins, I was at around 5800
pure yoke
that is fine
cerulean pilot
but with my gear I should be doing 6k+
pure yoke
I don't really hit the dummy much these days
so I couldn't give you a decent number on it
pure yoke
I'm a pretty bad teacher
I just kinda do my own thing
you should ask people in The Balance
cerulean pilot
I just wanna be good T_T
pure yoke
@cerulean pilot https://puu.sh/zSXYn/f5c22f7602.png
heavy mist
if u aint padding enough
u aint padding enough
Are you saving 2nd DFD for adds
hmm guess not 
cerulean pilot
during adds I usually have bfb and nastrond up
pure yoke
cerulean pilot
sat in pf for 2 hours today but couldn't get a parse party for O6S together
pure yoke
O5S is hard for me to dissect
wet stag
o5s parses are a joke
wet stag
i wish kihra didnt count damage done to adds
wet stag
i know
cerulean pilot
idk fflogs is weird, it doesn't recognize me as a person
paper torrent
TFW you find out ads enrage
wet stag
but it makes padding so easy
heavy mist
what was your old name
cerulean pilot
I never had an old name
pure yoke
that is just the nature of the boss fight
heavy mist
nvm then
cerulean pilot
I tried asking around on the fflogs discord but no response
heavy mist
heavy mist
what about o7s
cerulean pilot
I think the padding counteracts the downtime and random rng in the fight
I don't mind it
heavy mist
DPS has adds
wet stag
yeah but thats fine bc its not as stupid as o5s
heavy mist
and boss is up at same time
pure yoke
the way adds are in O7S you can be smart about it too
wet stag
o5s is just
pure yoke
mainly in maximizing boss damage
wet stag
padding lul
heavy mist
u can pad by moving boss π¦
cerulean pilot
yea I try to get CT and DE on add and boss along with getting nastrond on both
heavy mist
lol
cerulean pilot
why are you people so good ;-;
heavy mist
having a static helps too if they are like somewhat decent
heavy mist
u can get good parses in pugs
wet stag
was looking at the wrong one 
heavy mist
its just harder and its RNG based on party members
wet stag
was like last week or something
heavy mist
also class dependent
heavy mist
i mean non o5s
dull radish
friggin 60% dh crit rate
never wanna be like holis cube though
full padding
so gross
screws up ASP
heavy mist
ultimate PAD
heavy mist
spicy
dull radish
then they did B4 and two scathes >.>
pure yoke
well my hope is dh crit
dull radish
you have more chances though <3 esp during buffs
I have a few GCD in trick and then a last ditch effort of foul under pot
if nothing does anything in crit then it's rather mediocre
in trick*
topaz wolf
for the o5s speedkill strat
when do the winds go off
after head on/
right away or are they delayed?
pure yoke
It's like a one and a half second delay
blazing pelican
if you don't wanna die as a healer, you need to do a frame-perfect oGCD
zinc vortex
Mate us 
hybrid rapids
you do assize / indom after
only need either 1
well, depends on your head-on mitigation as well
lucid karma
O5S question: assuming feint used before head on, how far from proximity can DPS survive with 45k HP?
boreal edge
@lucid karma if mitigation done properly you can literally stand in front of boss ( front but either left or right not in middle )and not die
but if u wanna play it safe
its max ranged skills distance
which should be a little bit front of 3rd square ghost
lucid karma
if so for melee 2nd box is good enough?
boreal edge
yes
lucid karma
thank you
lucid karma
mhmm so either left or right side
rapid grove
Does anyone have a12s macro :3?
boreal edge
a12s macro for?
wet stag
A12s
wet stag
Positions
boreal edge
do u really need macro to tell ppl where to go?
its almost always 1 static spot
unless you are filler or whatever ppl call that 1 dps player that can go anywhere depends on who getting the sentence
wet stag
Oh yeah I forgot na doesn't have raid macros
Basically macros are posted at the beginning of the fight, and people call out what positions they want
It's just to make sure that everyone is on the same page
And if people forget mechanics
It's a good reminder
manic thorn
woeful prawn
thats so much text
daring berry
yeah, my FC raid manager also uses a similar one
had to resize chatbox to 1/4 of my screen real estate to even read the whole thing
civic garnet
Hi, I try to achieve the quest "test of courage" tribal quest with my astrologian... Impossible to achieve it because the guy died (I try to maintain him alive, but my spells don't work) or I die because I don't have high dps because healer... Is it possible that we can't fight and win just because healer class can't dps enough to kill this high HP target, Shaugi? Thanks
civic garnet
Is it an answer about my question @topaz wolf ?
topaz wolf
nah, just entered a random pf and saw that
dull radish
you should be able to do enough damage to complete the quest
how is your gear for your level?
civic garnet
I'm level 68 on all my craft classes so I have a level 68 gear for my astrologian, but the quest is blocked to 60... Did Someone won this quest as astrologian or healer? Because I regret choosen this class, now I have to continue with this class, but not sure we can kill him with the low dps...
lyric summit
having a miss counter on your parser
current year
topaz wolf
keep up dots
look for opportunities to dps, keep your draw and sleeve draw(if you have it) cds rolling
noct has higher healing potencies than the other sect
dull radish
it's a level 60 quest
topaz wolf
ohh
dull radish
just need to keep combust 2 up and spam malefic 2
you can give yourself balance and other cards to help
topaz wolf
yah
civic garnet
I did a lot of damages, close 10%left but he kill us at the ends because I can't heal the Kabul irons he'll and Shaugi Greatshell has a lot of HP. The only videos I watched are with melee dps and distance dps, no healers...
lyric summit
what ilvl is your weapon
steady pebble
what sect are you in
because you should be able to throw a regen on him and be fine
civic garnet
I level 260, but 206 gear
But now with fights, they need repair 50%lost
Is it possible to cancel the quest and come back with my samurai level70?
whole apex
:o
Small world casshern is my tank :b
Btw @topaz wolf
Can you be my mentor? Lol. I only do like 5100~ as blm ;-;
topaz wolf
rika is better at that than me
i can take a look tho if you want
i can read logs
dm me a log and i can take a look
civic garnet
Oh boy, with my samurai... First shot, ty for your help :)
stable basin
Hey guys ^^ im main MNK and want to try out SAM but it didnt work out as i wanted it to. Can a main SAM teach me how to play end content? I know Rota. 8 seconds on sigmar 4s dummy. Prefer German
indigo steppe
can someone tell me what the most useful things to have shown in the battle tab?
dmg taken, healing received are the 2 i can think of
sage totem
@indigo steppe I usually keep 2 battle tabs - one with everything, and one with only what's happened to me
lavish cobalt
Anyone know an active Ixion LS?
marsh flint
how does ping affect the needed gcd time on WAR?
I've heard the optimal recast time is 2.38seconds
marsh flint
clipping?
stable basin
Clipping is when your oGCD animation times run over so the next GCD skill is late
primal oak
when a skill gets "stuck" before activating and delays the others in the sequence
marsh flint
ah gotcha
like deliverance version of steel cyclone or onslaught
those are the ones I see affecting me the most
umm
decimate
there we go
stable basin
You don't really notice it in most cases unless you parse
primal oak
unless you clip really badly like I do on the PS4 
marsh flint
my current gear puts me at 2.34s GCD :^)
once I get enough gil to get crafted pants, I might be closer to 2.38s
stable basin
Tank gear this tier has way too much sks
marsh flint
I am on byakko axe right now
stable basin
Caster stuff seems pretty heavy on sps, too
marsh flint
and the next gear up without sks is... o8s drop.
stable basin
I wonder why they're pushing action speed stats so much
marsh flint
I've been told to get mendacity axe though
and I personally think it is a waste of mendacity
but if clearing o8s takes higher str to begin with, I'll have to do it anyway
stable basin
Eh are you getting deathless enrages?
marsh flint
no, my static only cleared painting savage this week
we'll be doing robot savage next week
with maybe a shot at trying joker savage as well
woeful prawn
the +1 weapon damage contributes a ridiculous amount
wet stag
"but it's only +1 reeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
"why get +1 when you can get +120 substats reeeeeeeee"
woeful prawn
also remember htat the (skillspeed tenacity?) substats actually contribute. you lose like 1% from having the wrong substat on that specific piece of gear but you gain 5% damage overall from the extra weapon damage / OR / die to less shit thanks to the vit if you upgrade from 350 pentamelded leftside to 360/370 even if the substats are not optimal
wet stag
From byakko to mikazuki, sure
Sks isn't that bad but depending on how much crit you lose it could be a loss
For war I mean
But it's only like
5 dps
grizzled seal
you underestimate weapon damage
wet stag
I really dont
Farsha anemos to mikazuki is technically a 5dps loss
I know weapon damage >>>>> everything
I'm just saying there are special cases
It's not something you gotta worry about, since the difference is miniscule
But exceptions do exist
...
I realise this isn't relevant
My bad
scenic patrol
It's a case by case basis
Sometimes the weapon with the lower WD will out perform the one with more
But it is really rare
sterile geyser
yeah if the higher WD one has truly awful substats
paper torrent
Cough sch tome book
lucid karma
WAR tome axe is awful too
wet stag
Farsha anemos beats mikazuki by 5 dps lul
lucid karma
feel like almost everything in this game is just dev randomly generating substat in
wet stag
Just put crit/Det on all the highest ones
scenic patrol
It's a lot less common now than it was in HW
At least
Creator DRK weapon
π€’
Should be about on par with Augmented Shire now
unreal flax
I wonβt use the tome spear until I can upgrade it. Tooooooo much SkS no Crit. All my shit gets misaligned for a DPS loss.
grizzled seal
atleast creator drk weapon looked dope
scenic patrol
Same for Warrior now
I already augmented
So using Farsha Anemos is quite a big loss
unreal flax
Yeah.
I gotta get my Levi DRG to 70 ASAP so I can get into Anemos and get the gear from there before the entire instance is dead.
At that point, I can farm 6&7S to get caught up to my excal char.
sterile geyser
i did a full anemos set for my drg. its nice but.... oh man is he a speedy speed boi
so much sks
unique wolf
wet stag
unique wolf
why
and wipe the raid like 50% of the time
you only lose like an auto if you do it right with sprint
unique wolf
i have to press like 3 jumps during wings of destruction/trine dodge and it gives me aids
well if u get 4 u basically wipe lol
wet stag
Wait why do you need to jump for trine/wings
pure yoke
it comes off cd during there
pure yoke
spooky shit
stable basin
ungh why do we always have terrible pug healers in particular late nights
pure yoke
grats
craggy gate
thanks, π
alpine dock
Hey guys I'm not sure if this is the place to ask this but I'm starting out in Eureka (currently lvl3) but I wanted to know what do I do? Just kill random monsters? I've partied up at times but I'm a little lost
wet stag
For maximum exp/effort afk until NMs spawn, then go to those
For maximum exp/time party up with similarly leveled people and farm mobs 4-5 levels above you
alpine dock
Am I starting this too late as most people looking for parties are like lvl 20
wet stag
Shout and see if anyone wants to party
alpine dock
Ok thanks
wide mirage
Personally I'm preferring the mob farm method, though I need to push at higher-levelled adds. Some partys aren't ballsy enough
fading shoal
What is the best fish to assign to get for a fisher retainer rn?
stable basin
A lot of NM parties hoover up pretty much whoever
however
make sure you acquire a Protean Crystal before you join the train
you'll need one for the lv3 quest, and the NMs only give Anemos (which you can't convert to protean till after you do the lv3 quest)
alpine dock
Yeah I picked up a couple lol didn't know what they where for until I did the lvl3 quest
What's the generally pickup rate I saw some of the weapons need 300+
sour solstice
what class?
sour solstice
NOPE
low yarrow
Can I go all crit or all determination?
sour solstice
Crit is really good
Piety if you feel like you need more MP
but thats a bit of a crutch
dull radish
spellspeed is fine for WHM
lucid karma
WHM rarely has MP problem anyway
And like Rika said spell speed is fine
It helps in progression
woeful prawn
i love spellspeed on white mage (personal pref)
dull radish
same
steep iris
I go crit>det
steep iris
am a slowboye with like 800 SpS
sour solstice
its still better
dull radish
it's honestly pretty personal preference. Crit has more value in more of a crit comp though, sure
but as long as you follow through with stacking the secondary and it's not named piety
you've got a pretty solid build
lucid karma
Personally 2.35-2.30 is sweet spot for me
sour solstice
Why though
steep iris
f a s t
lucid karma
Nothing is wrong with being fast
sour solstice
whats his GCD?
steep iris
dunno
wet stag
lemme check
steep iris
2.28/2.27
wet stag
steep iris
theoretically what's the max sps you can have on a whm anyway
lucid karma
And honestly I don't think whm has to worry about clipping buff
Unlike caster DPS where going too fast can be problem
zinc vortex
for healers it's personal preference
spellspeed is good for dps in a scenario where you're not gonna run into MP issues
i love spellspeed whm, my static whm loves spellspeed
but there's arguments for all substats for healers
saying spellspeed is just flat out bad is not true though
dull radish
I would focus sps over det personally, at least to a certain tier
zinc vortex
same
dull radish
if you're good at optimizing your GCD, sps gives a ton of value
steep iris
hmm
sour solstice
or be a true memelord
steep iris
i just realized im like
sour solstice
and get DH
steep iris
9 SpS to the next tier
dull radish
rip
zinc vortex
just keep in mind that if you get more and more spellspeed, your piety requirement might change
dull radish
yeah
agile bone
Speaking of sps is it used on RDM at all?
steep iris
medica 2 cast times tho π
dull radish
sps is weakest secondary on RDM
dull radish
there's minor gain to be had but generally you're better off going for any other secondary
steep iris
i need people to stop dying for that yalia
lucid karma
I have 2.25 gcd on RDM
sour solstice
just make your RDM do it
steep iris
less dps vs if i did it
lucid karma
Feels like I'm going insane playing it
steep iris
plus i have infinite mana with my brd
agile bone
I saw some people meld it so was wondering
sour solstice
fair enough
dull radish
could be part of BLM set that's shared with their RDM
some SMN like a touch of sps too
sour solstice
is non swiftcast raising more of a dps loss than making your RDM do it?
agile bone
Oh yeah could be that
steep iris
rdm raising is dps loss iirc
agile bone
Thnx for info :)
sour solstice
vs your fullcast
dull radish
even vs hardcast, if you can do it safely, better for healer to
sour solstice
8 seconds is aproximately 6 years in sitting duck time
zinc vortex
i'm at 1.9k spellspeed for blm and 1.4k for rdm and smn π
i played red mage the first 2 weeks of prog but my healers never asked me to raise once so i just
switched to something more useful
i also felt like by the time it came to me raising we were gonna wipe big time anyway
sour solstice
also if you want to swiftcast medica you could just kick your drg
lucid karma
Use swiftcast for anything but raise/heal and next few seconds someone dies for whatever reason
π
sour solstice
precisely why you kick the drg
low yarrow
Damn. I was hoping for a cookie cutter build lol
stable basin
I play RDM these days because RDM is fun
there really isn't a better reason to choose a job.
sour solstice
Just unbind vercure for me thanks
stable basin
Eh it has its uses, especially in overworld and Eureka when you want to insta rez without attacking something first
woeful prawn
vercure is usable even in savage my dude
spice comet
I use vercure for when i dont trust the healer on a big pull and tanks dying, also i love when rdm vercure in savage
woeful prawn
during forced downtime you pop a cure and you have a instacast when boss gets targetable again
dull radish
yeah
spice comet
Especially heartless angel when they miss like 1 pixel thank god
dull radish
eh
spice comet
one pixel always tilts me
woeful prawn
ravin i will suck your dick if you cure the tank that eats all the autos during the first heartless
woeful prawn
those six autos make me want to kill myself
spice comet
With fairy
spice comet
Usually its good, just when someone misses the whm cure iii reeeee trigger
As i press my extra succor
Ive seen some interesting ways to handle that where the tsnk invulns there
woeful prawn
i pussy heal all heartlesses
e-tactics succor succor
and then indom when debuff expires -> time succor so it lands when skulls explode
spice comet
I guess the invuln works cause they pass heartless but idk all their cds post that
Ive been told to stop pussy healing
Im gonna just pray ppl live as i broil
woeful prawn
Β°I'll do fairy tether i think
spice comet
I do the fairy tether n it works, expires a bit after wings start casting
By then tanks usually good
woeful prawn
100/100 meter fucks me up hard for light phase
since if tank fucks off far for trines the pet sits there at 30 meter out of tether succ range
spice comet
My loj phase alternate between eat fairy or not depending on how it goes
woeful prawn
YO. i should do that
spice comet
Yea i know ppl tether first trine
I sometimes just rather eat fairy tho lmao
Give a tank excog and myself extra dps
Also its more likely that happen cause i had to lustrate ONE person
woeful prawn
convert where
spice comet
Right after forsaken or between that and second heartless
Like bitch u need more hp than the others now
spice comet
The funny thing is no manaward
dull radish
I just convert with pot in 8 haha
spice comet
That button wasnt used until they realize they might need some def to survive loj, so it was off cd for like.....ever
dull radish
well most fights lately
woeful prawn
convert during heartless is actual sabotage
spice comet
I should tell them to pot
woeful prawn
yeah wth
spice comet
Idk y they always convert on forsaken
dull radish
convert is like, oh get rid of some HP for two more F4, whee
spice comet
I guess its 120 perfectly timed but wtf
dull radish
depending on where you end a fight it's not even a gain to convert
spice comet
dull radish
unless you can catch buffs with it
if you can get two more F4 at hte end of a fight
you get same number of F4
woeful prawn
they should be converting after first heartless -> ultima i think?
dull radish
with or without convert
woeful prawn
wow
spice comet
I tried to not heal n do normal heals, that blm dies so much idk wut the fuq they doing
woeful prawn
thats one way to look at it
spice comet
Yea im pretty sure they use convert on cd
Base on the hp diff they had compare to other dps
dull radish
what is happening during 2nd convert when it's used?
dull radish
their first isn't at forsaken
spice comet
Its that weird past, future, ultima
dull radish
it's during celestriad
woeful prawn
convert should be going out before celestriat
dull radish
like as ultima is going off
spice comet
Too racist just ban bad ones
dull radish
I can't even imagine what they're doing to get first convert during forsaken haha
dull radish
with convert you go into UI like, as you're stepping in out of outer blizzard AoE during celestriad
spice comet
Idk i guess ill check tomo we have them for a while before our regular static mem comes back
Like 2 or 3 weeks
dull radish
but yeah, cozy convert is just using it along with pot to get more F4 in pot
so you convert during ultima, large trine, then somewhere near the end of the fight I dunno depends on kill time
dull radish
the third with that timing though, can be uh
less than opportune time
I've made a mistake once with it
and converted right before heartless archangel in probably 4th forsaken
woeful prawn
dull radish
luckily I got hit later with the AoE heal and that was enough
or maybe I popped manaward for that one and was ok
one of those
spice comet
π π
sour elbow
Do people actually use controllers in endgame?
dull radish
absolutely
sour elbow
Is it better than keyboard/mouse?
dull radish
not better, just different
you can be one of the best players on either
more about what you can get used to
scenic patrol
it's a matter of preference
I know plenty of PS4 healers with good play
!charlogs Odin Bell Elvy
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
PS4 player ^^
dull radish
good SCH friend of mine also plays on controller haha
!charlogs leviathan that spross
storm frostBOT
dull radish
oh right, he traps on other jobs
but yeah, any which way
good mixture of kb/m and controller players at even the top end of play
storm frostBOT
scenic patrol
Well, he's not actually good, just padded as fuck
dull radish
yeahhh
stable basin
Yeah, I don't really get that whole padding thing vs. just honest parsing
Mind you, I'm a scrub. lol
dull radish
people like being number 1
esp if they're not the best, they don't mind being padded to be as such
stable basin
yeah, it was a good feeling when I did my lakshmi farms to see an orange and #5 best RDM on siren for the fight
savage ... eh. i'll probably improve over time, i did in deltascape too
have only had a couple of o5s clears, one was not only first clear but basically first learning party led to a clear so basically zero optimization, the other was just a really crappy pug run after hours of crappy pug runs where all I really just wanted was to get my 2 chest in for the week before it got too hard to find groups
last week was bad, even by Tuesday night 2 chest O5S pugs that could seal the deal were painfully hard to find