endgame-lounge

[paper torrent]

• this was talking about me btw.

[boreal edge]

just have rdm or nin do it

[paper torrent]

yeah and that too

IR is a huge loss for warrior

i dunno why pugs hover so much over it

[boreal edge]

losing a full IR is window is very huge

[paper torrent]

plus if you do enough dps you're going to skip the end of the fight where shit starts getting wack anyway

it's not going to suddenly carry groups to blue logs if they are still 30%

[steep iris]

my pugs before is like

[paper torrent]

or even get them clears if they're hitting like 15% enrag

[steep iris]

"you wanna do the war cheese strat?"

"nah"

"ok"

[paper torrent]

"you wanna do war cheese?

"can RDM do it instead?

"Why?"

"Warrior loses a skill worth 40% of their total DPS"

"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BE A TEAMPLAYER"

that convo goes two ways

both of which work out for me

just means i get to GASP PARSE PAD IR DECIMATE? GASP

HOW EVIL

[hybrid rapids]

it isn't 40% of total dps

not a full swing

[paper torrent]

that's like saying you get 100% of your dps from not afking

[hybrid rapids]

RDM can do it with 370/375 weapon

i meant you don't lose 40% of total DPS from 1 rotation

[paper torrent]

oh yeah that's true

[heavy mist]

lol if u did

[paper torrent]

but i mean it's a big part of it

[heavy mist]

theres some serious problems

[paper torrent]

i would kms if that happended

[hybrid rapids]

and yes, priority i would let RDM do it

something like RDM > WAR > NIN

[heavy mist]

but bringing a RDM

🤔

[paper torrent]

I mean i see them everywhere in o5s

might as well have them feel useful outside of res

it's what they always wanted

[hybrid rapids]

Hey WAR, can you help on skipping the phase?
I've no SSD
okay :(

[lusty oak]

ask rdm

easier

[blazing pelican]

!charlogs Midgarsormr Synnata Selanoh

[storm frost]

Error!

FFLogs API Error: Invalid character name/server/region specified.

[blazing pelican]

I hate Midgard

https://www.fflogs.com/character/id/78007

There.

Bringing a RDM isn't a bad thing

[boreal edge]

@blazing pelican nobody cares about 99% rdm he/she still useless job that doesnt buff party dps

[blazing pelican]

Embolden?

[lusty oak]

RDM buffs dps in o5s a lot

skipping ghosts is great buff

[stable basin]

and another hour wasted on wipes

[blazing pelican]

Our RDM does our skips

[boreal edge]

says the meta job

[stable basin]

should I probably give up hope now except for weeks when I get Tuesday and/or Wednesday off or can keep myself awake till 3AM on Monday?

and just take a 0-1 every other week?

(I get home around 11:30 PM central on work nights)

and next tier not be a RDM, much as I like the job, unless I'm gonna week one it?

[dull radish]

No?

[pure yoke]

hi

[heavy mist]

People do 2 chests all the time

[dull radish]

Heya

[stable basin]

yay finally managed to get it

lol, Ayami will be pleased too

the group I got the weekly done with? i actually convinced the guy to take me over the BRD he had wanted

(it only took a tale of the hour I'd just spent watching BRD fall off and a reminder they have no anti knockback skill, lol)

[boreal edge]

you can repelling shot

but it takes some timing practice

to negate pushback effect

[quasi mesa]

Hi just wanted to confirm that is 355 better than 370 if say we max it with VI stones

[heavy mist]

No

[quasi mesa]

so 370 is still better than 355?

[heavy mist]

Yes

[quasi mesa]

ok thanks mate

[heavy mist]

I assume this is weapon

[quasi mesa]

em for body parts

[heavy mist]

That's 350 vs 370

[quasi mesa]

for weapon because of the damage i think 370 is way better lol

[heavy mist]

But unless there's a special case I dunno about then 370 is better anyways

[hybrid rapids]

the different is negligible on some parts

also depends on how you define better

as in DPS output then yes

especially healer

[quasi mesa]

ok thanks mate i will work towards 370

[hybrid rapids]

but healers have best on 375 (SCH/AST) and 370 (WHM)

[heavy mist]

Thanks game

[hybrid rapids]

for weapon

[spice comet]

🤔 so I have a squishy blm in o8s with around 42/43k hp with food, can I shield-soil only for loj/forsakens cause I find them dropping close during ultima->past, future and meteors too 👀

[zinc vortex]

is he using vit melds?

im behind on gear a bit but im still at 45k with food and vit melds

[hybrid rapids]

I have only 42k HP

Can confirm soil isn’t required

But shield is a must

[dull radish]

I'm happy when he misplaces soil for LoJ at the end of first forsaken

because I always slive

[hybrid rapids]

Also reprisal / addle for example

[dull radish]

my SCH overuses soil haha

oh, 3rd message there was supposed to be first

discord lagged on sending that one

[hybrid rapids]

People were using soil for erm...last 4 x ultima haha

It isn’t as bad as Alma

[dull radish]

yeah

[hybrid rapids]

Which comes with DoT after

[dull radish]

also for starstrafe

that's the best place to use manaward there

[hybrid rapids]

Does the starstrafe painful?

[dull radish]

makes it a lot less spooky

quite a bit

[hybrid rapids]

For caster and ranger

Some party asking healer to heal them

Like H1 for ranger, H2 for caster

[dull radish]

yeah like the meteors themselves will do a good bit of damage, even with shields and regens up beforehand

then there's the proximity marker and stack doing even more haha

so I'm just like, ok I'll manaward

[hybrid rapids]

Ahh

So it’s good to soil the stack circle?

I never thought that

[dull radish]

the stack itself isn't too much damage

it's just, they might be lower HP from the starstrafe

if they get healed up from that, it's pretty safe

[hybrid rapids]

I just put an adlo deploy usually

But might be careful next time

If the caster or ranger Hp is low

[dull radish]

BRD/MCH, it can be good to plan to use second wind there. BLM manaward. SMN/RDM, just hope you get healed haha

[hybrid rapids]

Actually I never joined any part with SMN or RDM yet...

Either BRD or MCH / BLM

So didn’t notice that

[dull radish]

it's such a cozy fight for BLM

[hybrid rapids]

Yea, a lot caster like to do BLM for 8s

Rarely see any SMN or RDM

[azure hill]

When you say cozy fight, I can't help but to imagine a BLM bunched up in a Snuggie

[dull radish]

a lot of chat in the BLM channels in balance is a bunch of blobmorning (would emote but no nitro), it's all about being comfy <3

[spice comet]

To answer he had no vit

If I just succor loj no soil he comes close to dying

[dull radish]

close to dying is ok

[spice comet]

I'm pretty sure the times he died is when the is not in his favor tho

[dull radish]

there's no party damage for ages after

[hybrid rapids]

Close to dying = LB \O/

[spice comet]

So with addle,reprisal and succor

[hybrid rapids]

In ultimate we eat fire ball 5 people

[dull radish]

with addle, reprisal, and succor?

[spice comet]

How much is loj?

[hybrid rapids]

Left like 200~600 HP

[dull radish]

umm it cuts it down a lot

[hybrid rapids]

LB gauge + 0.5

[dull radish]

I don't addle much because LB gen reasons

[spice comet]

O,O is it less than 43k?

[dull radish]

we mainly just reprisal stuff

have a tendency to overmitigate as is

[spice comet]

Loj is 99k no mitigation?

[dull radish]

pfft no

[spice comet]

Lmao if no mitigation loj all I know is only that everyone died if none

[dull radish]

it's maybe like 55k or so without anything? I dunno exactly

[spice comet]

Ohh that makes sense then :V y ppl drop if no shield

Hmm ok I will try not to mitigate the ultimas n only succor loj, hope blm can live with their hp 🤔

[dull radish]

hmm, we haven't worked a whole lot on planning out mitigation yet for 8 for optimization (and I haven't been paying attention to all of it), but looks like this week we had largesse succor, fey covenant, veil, and reprisal up for first LoJ

maybe base LoJ does more than I thought haha

but we took this much

[spice comet]

Hmm fey cov on loj? What do u use for forsaken1 mitigation? Usually pop my fey cov there

[dull radish]

I think spread adlo, maybe SiO? Lemme check

[zinc vortex]

addle maybe

dunno if you're running a caster

[spice comet]

Oo that's a new one spreadlo forsaken 1 instead of start

[dull radish]

I don't addle it, but mm

looks like we had...

[zinc vortex]

what do you addle in god kefka?

for future reference if we ever get past 2nd forsaken

[spice comet]

We were doing them in loj, before we had brd mch👀

[dull radish]

some stuff fell off before it hit that I didn't notice haha, but mm looks like it was reprisal, fey illu succor (I know sometimes he spreads adlo here), soil (which often feels a bit overkill)

[zinc vortex]

my SCH almost never uses soil

[dull radish]

my SCH uses it sometimes when we don't need it, and I feel bad haha

[zinc vortex]

heh

i don't think i've ever seen a sacred soil from him tbh

but then again i fully trust him

both my healers are great players and play really well together

[dull radish]

the only things I addle are double wing -> ultima mid-first forsaken, light of judgement at end of 2nd forsaken because screw 2nd forsaken, and I think maybe when we have like double ultima later or something

[azure hill]

As long as they use Shadowflare

So many scholars that don't use it

It's like, hello, free damage

[zinc vortex]

hmm, sounds about right

i've never considered using addle on double wing ultima

[dull radish]

I just started doing it because I have triple up so it's an easy weave

and it catches both

[azure hill]

I could kind of see why they'd pass Sacred Soil since it's an Aetherflow stack

[dull radish]

most of the LB gen comes from LoJ critical shielding I think

[azure hill]

But Shadow flare is free

[dull radish]

so those I tend to try to stay away from

[zinc vortex]

yeah

[dull radish]

we still have problems with overmitigating them sometimes

and we get LB3 at a bad time

hopefully something we'll work out this week

along with that dumb uptime strat for starstrafe

[zinc vortex]

we just got to 2nd forsaken last week

and it was like a complete dead silence

and after we obviously wiped

just one big, loud

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

was great haha

[dull radish]

Nice, getting there

After 2nd forsaken things get a lot cozier

Lot of time to deal with things, not a lot all going on at the same time

[zinc vortex]

hopefully i'll find some time to get a bit more comfy on things

so far im very comfortable on the celestriad but first forsaken is very uh

tight with my triplecast timer

which i could consider moving forward a GCD, just haven't tried it yet

[dull radish]

You should be looking to F3-> triple like as/right after tower soak resolves

Smoothly make your way back to party under it while double wing is casting

[zinc vortex]

yeah, just checked a replay of you

you're holding swiftcast for that, and i'm using it in the opener

and now i feel kinda dumb

[dull radish]

To be fair, I have a kinda bad tendency to never use swift in my opener even when it makes sense to

But in cases like this, cozy to have it up for there

[zinc vortex]

yeah definitely

i'll try that next time i get there

[dull radish]

Or just get lucky and get a proc or two <3

[zinc vortex]

yeah that tends to make things work as well haha

[dull radish]

Sometimes if I get a late TC proc going into Forsaken, I'll save it for that movement so I can have swift up for the second one

And if my spot is close for first set I'll try to slidecast over there instead as well for the same reason

[spice comet]

Ooo double wing ultima-addle during forsaken 1 over using it at loj interesting 👀

[dull radish]

yeah, my thinking for that was, LoJ can give like 1-1.5 bars of LB just on its own critically mitigated, and then you don't need party healing until a decent while after trine and such, so you can just kinda let some regens/fairy take care of it

ultima you need to top people up right after, so trying to cheese LB from that just sounds like a lot of extra healer GCD

you don't plan on letting folks drop low for it

or the double wing, for that matter

[spice comet]

👌

[stable basin]

@azure hill scholars not using shadowflare ... I blame the targeting for that I think

oftentimes in a hectic fight (especially melee heavy which most high end duty groups are lately because meta) it's hard to quickly throw the reticle, at least I find it so

without either missing the boss or accidentally clicking someone instead and canceling it

[dull radish]

fights are generally not too hectic to throw shadow flare down, and a lot of folks often just macro it to go under their target

[sullen sable]

it's like anything else

takes a tiny bit of focus

[spice comet]

Sch better use shadowflare

There even a macro

[sullen sable]

if anything people just don't realize it's off cd

[spice comet]

Yep

[stable basin]

isn't macroing combat actions usually considered a bad idea though?

although in some cases it might be unavoidable

like if you wanna SMN in 24 mans there is basically no way you're gonna shadow flare without it

[sullen sable]

it always sucks, but it's less suck for shadowflare since you can't queue the ability anyway

[torn kindle]

Macro'ing Ground placed AoEs is semi-okay for controller users since it means you don't have to move your camera to place it properly.

[stable basin]

because the time it takes to find a spot to properly click the reticle is probably gonna actually lose dps over not using shadowflare at all lol

[sullen sable]

have your mouse in the right spot before you hit the button

it usually doesn't have to be precise

[torn kindle]

mouse
controller
🤔

[stable basin]

Virsath, the big issue is melee heavy 8 mans and basically every 24, because you have to somehow a) get the boss in the AoE AND b) not click any of the people nearby

[torn kindle]

Placing it manually with controller means i usually have to have my camera pointing at the ground, which can be bad if I need to look somewhere else for mechanics.

[sullen sable]

i thought you couldn't click on people while placing shadowflare

maybe you can idr

i didn't have that issue either way

like i said, it doesn't have to be precise most of the time, you can put it to the side of the boss

and if all else fails, use the macro

[dull radish]

if you weave shadow flare after an instant, even macroed you don't lose anything. If you want to try to put it between full casts, it'd clip with or without the macro

[spice comet]

Shadow flare is an ogcd

So yeah u can macro it fine

The opener with bio2->shadow-ed, etc there's no clip

Assuming it's the macro shadowflare where u place on target so it's instant

[stable basin]

welp, didn't get lakshmi to fill today but i did make a friend 😄

[silent path]

anyone here play mch that can help me ?

I was looking into MCH rotations and stuff

what's the difference between 2 ammo and 3 ammo opener ?

[hybrid rapids]

!faq jobguide

[storm frost]

The Balance General & Job Guide

Info

https://thebalanceffxiv.com/guides.html

[hybrid rapids]

@silent path https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BaJWWkSajcyIMb-d07gtEdtHrmb9cpOXsKyMiEuU6oc/edit

[thorn elm]

Just hit 70 as a tank, Should i buy all 350 accessories right away?

[paper torrent]

imo unless you're literally sitting on stacks upon stacks of VI and V no

if we're talking about crafted anyway

[lyric summit]

are you planning on doing savage as a tank?

[paper torrent]

also that ^

i assumed that was the case

[thorn elm]

Yes savage tank

[paper torrent]

savage tank fastest way to et in

is eureka + sigma right side

[thorn elm]

i ahve 26 v and 3vi

[paper torrent]

crafted also works for subbing sigma pieces as well

[thorn elm]

And can buy more with clusters

[paper torrent]

hahaha yeah fuck no you're not penta melding

you legit need full stacks

[spice comet]

Put a 1

[paper torrent]

to penta, and a crafter friend who's level 70

[spice comet]

In front of the number u have now

For Vs

[thorn elm]

i have sub 300 thou, wouldnt the ilvl still make it better?

[spice comet]

And hmmm 10 in front of the other

[paper torrent]

It would help yes

[spice comet]

U need 350 nowadays

To start savage since pf ilvls gone up this late in the tier

[paper torrent]

crafted right side for tanks are a bit pricey

i personally would recommend waiting

[thorn elm]

Really? there all sub 200k

[paper torrent]

get bolts this week

[spice comet]

The set is cheap

The meld isnt

[paper torrent]

and sub pieces wherever you like

i would say buying a ring would be the best though

since tomestone ring and 370 might not be in your imedate future

[spice comet]

So yeah 1m for the 350 but u need overmelds so the first slot is VI at like 20 percent chance to succeed...then V at 17....and it goes down from there

U moneyz going kaboom

[thorn elm]

So if i'm understanding, the crafted gear is only good when its penta melded?

[paper torrent]

you can just buy crafted for the ilevel, but 350 sgima is better

[spice comet]

Thats the point for crafted

[paper torrent]

i would say the only thing that's an expection to is the ring because of uniqueness of sigma ring

[spice comet]

Yea sigma is better if ur not overmelding amyways

[paper torrent]

355 eurkea is actually better than 360 according to balance by like 7 dps

[spice comet]

It is

[paper torrent]

all the most reason to go 360 chest first

[spice comet]

Cause 5 materia

[paper torrent]

for all intents and purposes you can skip byakko

it's hard to get a good left side rn because no one crafts 350 left side

and the only other real way to gear up there is 350 sigma or 360 tomestone

so eureka is the best way to gear up for fresh 70s

[spice comet]

Might be better cause then u can save ur money

Get all the money ready for next tier

[paper torrent]

eureka to my knowledge also gives you some materia as well

so if you can handle your soul crushing and dying

[thorn elm]

mmm k

[spice comet]

Lockedboxes

Rng

[paper torrent]

it's not even arguably the best way to regear rn

because sigma on bolts is the only way you can get 350 right side without crafted and that's wekly

[spice comet]

Could be worst, like pre eureka

[paper torrent]

oh god

Raba farming

is actual aids

[spice comet]

🔫

[paper torrent]

i had to do that to regear my left side for byakko

god never again

also afking for sigma weeks on end

fk that noise

[spice comet]

I bought crafted

Back in the day

[paper torrent]

well i mean yeah that's an option

honestly you can probably prog with just 1 week worth of stuff if you have eureka full melds

and right side full melds obv

then regear for farms

generally progging runs the ilevel is lower

[spice comet]

Think o7s pushes it

[paper torrent]

well obviously you aren't going to walk in to o7s with ilevel that low

especially as warrior

[spice comet]

O8s prefer some 370s since this isnt like wf raiders

[paper torrent]

i'm talking about entry stuff like o5s and o6s

[spice comet]

👌

[paper torrent]

i should have contextualized that yeah

i'm legit sitting at 361 on WAR rn

please RNG chesus

give me diamond gloves

[thorn elm]

So to gear a fresh 70 run Eureka until i die of boredom?

[junior basin]

That's one way to do it.

[fading widget]

Thats pretty inefficient

Depends how much time you have though

[wet stag]

If you're already lv 20 you can get a set pretty quick

[thorn elm]

Im not, first 70

[kindred bison]

would DH melds on WHM help out in the dps department as long as i stick above 1.5k crit?

[dull radish]

yeah DH melds are going to be marginally more for pure dps, but it's really a small effect, and doesn't really matter where your crit is too much

it's like, get an extra few GCD in, crit a few more times, clip a little less, that more than makes up the difference for DH vs non-DH

[kindred bison]

cause if the DH does just shit really...

i'm just gonna meld spell speed instead

[wet stag]

Ur melds won't carry you if ur bad

Can confirm, am bad

[dull radish]

yeah you can meld a bit of spellspeed or det or whatever instead, it's fine, won't make much a difference

though you might want to meld with spellspeed tiers in mind

[kindred bison]

still weird as hell that healers can just meld whatever the fuck they want

for their playstyle

Ex-Tank Main...

[dull radish]

it's pretty true for BLM too honestly haha

but yeah

[kindred bison]

aka WAR main

otherwise known as

slap every last bit of crit onto that class you can

and if it's not crit, slap some det onto the bitch

[wet stag]

Drks can meld whatever too

[scenic patrol]

There are optimal melds for DRK, but damage variance is so low

Like within 30 DPS

[stable basin]

Apparently they want us to have more spell speed lol

At least judging by the 370 caster ring

[blazing pelican]

Healers tend to be pretty free flow with BiS

But you still have stats you want to prioritize

[scenic patrol]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/1ZjS7gprd8K9EA4oUW/giphy_s.gif

[torn kindle]

P U N T

[blazing pelican]

Fuck outta here with that bullshit

[woeful prawn]

lalafell punting

[torn kindle]

NO LALAFELL PUNTING

[lucid karma]

they're doing their job leave them alone

[blazing pelican]

Hey guys, I'm just coming back to the game after not playing for 24 hours and I'm really loving the changes. Is it a good time to come back now?

[torn kindle]

iunno man

the grind to make it up to pace will be quite intense

[hybrid rapids]

make it 24 hours

so you could say 1 day

[honest needle]

how are black mages in savage raids

[topaz wolf]

good if u know what ur doing

worthless if you dont

[stable basin]

^ Literally like all the jobs

[covert fern]

^ except SAM where you are useless all the time, kidding don't hurt me

[torn kindle]

SAM? You mean a babby MNK with a sword? /s

[covert fern]

There is a secret to playing SAM well, Reroll MNK

[unique wolf]

[torn kindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR1T0k6CxWQ

[paper torrent]

not even wrong

[covert fern]

Why does SAM hit so low? Most other classes who are on the lower end bring something else, does Sam bring anything?

[wet stag]

Sam brings more rdps when in a party of grey parsers

[paper torrent]

SAM is better if you're A.) good

B.) everyone is sucks

and even then i'd argue monk does enough dps that that dps margin doesn't matter

so you just roll monk

[torn kindle]

SAM is better if the entire party is literally just mages. /s

[paper torrent]

G A R U D A

C O N T A G I O N

[covert fern]

WTB SAM buffs? But really does it matter if I'm just casually raiding?

[wet stag]

Yeah sam's fine

As long as you're good

[zinc vortex]

doesn't matter for casual raiding, don't worry

[torn kindle]

The hard part is finding people who suck off the meta but don't even know how to do a good opener

[paper torrent]

Casual raiding it's fine

even savage it's fine

nothing is bared from clearinging content

[zinc vortex]

i thought savage raiding was pretty casual

[hybrid rapids]

savage is casual, players are hard

[wet stag]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Tsun that's lewd

[unique wolf]

♿ ♿ ♿ ♿ ♿ ♿ ♿ ♿

average static in ffxiv

[paper torrent]

oh hey look

it's me

but i'm a pugger

does that mean i'm static worthy? 🤔

[torn kindle]

Are those the same Wheelchairs 2.0 WAR/3.x PLD/3.0 AST/4.0 BLM used?

[zinc vortex]

hey where did you get emoji versions of my raid group

[stable basin]

LOL, that reminds me of all those Contract Bridge strategy books

contract bridge is a game where you play against three opponents, the player seated to your left (left hand opponent or LHO), the player seated to your right (right hand opponent or RHO), and the player opposite you (the idiot, center hand opponent, or CHO)

supposedly you're supposed to have a partner seated opposite you but ... xD

[wet stag]

sigh

Fucking end me

[steady pebble]

having fun in general chat?

[wet stag]

At least I'm off work

[paper torrent]

i really need to read

it's like, 2:30a m

i have class in like 6 hours

[steady pebble]

Why aren't you asleep?

[paper torrent]

because Kael

I hate myself

[steady pebble]

go take a nap, motherfucker

[paper torrent]

hte real reason is because I just haven't been sleeping

my clock is totally off

[steady pebble]

:\

i understand that all too well

[paper torrent]

hopefully i can get a decent o5s parse tommroow

[steady pebble]

well if you can get a small nap in, you should try to

[paper torrent]

I don't know why I thought, doing a o5s is a good idea

[steady pebble]

hopefully your classes go well

[paper torrent]

it's oay if i have 10fps

my classes are legit a joke rn

thanks though

it's not like last quarter

that was a shitshow

I really do need to at least parse blue on all my shit before i unsub

that will just look bad on me

[steady pebble]

you could always nag at ayami and others, see if they'll go with you instead of trying to find pug groups

[paper torrent]

the thing is

that grey

was with ayami and wacih

WHEEEZEEEE

[steady pebble]

:c

[paper torrent]

it's okay i wasn't hoome on 60 fps

i'm a better pld than that

i know that

i get my 360 weapon today too so yay me

[steady pebble]

\o/

[zinc vortex]

if ur gray ur gay

[paper torrent]

true

but i'm already gay

[zinc vortex]

cant spell gray without it

[paper torrent]

math checks out

[steady pebble]

pls no math

im dyslexic

[wet stag]

[blazing pelican]

Me during A11S prog: "Nobody said there would be math"

[pure yoke]

hey

count to 8

[steady pebble]

1,3 ,6, 9

wait

[pure yoke]

you wiped the raid

[blazing pelican]

Yeah that sounds like one of our wipes

[steady pebble]

v_v

[paper torrent]

shit

i knew i should've done vector calculus

goddamn it

maybe i wouldn't parse like a blue shitter

[hybrid rapids]

when you bad in timing

(have to hit right after 5th flame (100 gauge)

when too earlier then it's 80 gauge

[lavish cobalt]

Anybody know how i can adjust my sound settings, so i can only hear like a fate pop in Eureka?

[hybrid rapids]

@lavish cobalt Character Config > Log Window Settings > Notification Settings

nvm

sry

i can't find shout

you can't hear fate pop

[lavish cobalt]

Hmm when i fate pops i hear like everybody using abilities, but i want to lower like the music and mob sound

[stable basin]

hmmm something that just occurred to me in o5s

there is a failsafe for people hiding in ghosts during enrage cast, since the ghost goes invuln when casting flames of hate in that case

but

what happens if someone is in a passenger car AFTER having killed their ghost, and THEN enrage cast goes off outside?

[dull radish]

it respawns

[stable basin]

ah.

[dull radish]

and doe s the cast again

[stable basin]

"the dev team thinks of everything" as we always said in nethack usenet XD

[hybrid rapids]

@lavish cobalt ahhh, sry misunderstood it

someone shared on reddit

/micon "Eureka" emote
/bfx party simple
/bfx other off
/soundeffectsparty 50
/soundeffectsother 20

/micon "Examine Self" emote
/bfx party all
/bfx other all
/soundeffectsparty 100
/soundeffectsother 100

first one is Fate Pop, turn off

second is after

turn on

[lavish cobalt]

thanks luna!

[scenic patrol]

https://puu.sh/A1R82/451235ce6d.png

[paper torrent]

OOF

damn Johni hang in there

[scenic patrol]

raid time is over now

but I have Faustka mapped out

I am very used to the fight now

[paper torrent]

that's good

i need to practice my opener tonight

and get a better o5s

seeing that grey pisses me off

[hybrid rapids]

you can get past next time !!

people were making a lot mistake?

or just rdps low af?

[scenic patrol]

DRG dided

to LoJ

[hybrid rapids]

healers :>

sounds like rdps kinda low tho

[spice comet]

Sounds like it, maybe lb cheese

The loj lb

[hybrid rapids]

wut

why

[spice comet]

For dpd

More dps

[sullen sable]

doing lb strats while learning a fight

[spice comet]

[hybrid rapids]

the lb strat is for parse run isn't it?

[spice comet]

Its also in pug

A lot

[hybrid rapids]

i never seen it

[spice comet]

To push dps

[hybrid rapids]

is it a gain?

[sullen sable]

it can help clear dps checks too; most of them aren't that hard to do

yeah

it's just

[spice comet]

Must b freaking prima

[sullen sable]

why take the risk if you haven't seen enrage

[spice comet]

Its cause ppl cant dps so they want the ez way

[sullen sable]

[spice comet]

Welcome to primal pugging

[hybrid rapids]

tbh, i don't get it

why lb for light jugment tho Or2

[spice comet]

No u get more lb

[sullen sable]

no he's saying critical healing

[hybrid rapids]

ahhh

[spice comet]

^

[sullen sable]

and mitigation

[spice comet]

👌

[hybrid rapids]

build lb

[sullen sable]

yeah

[dull radish]

I like it because I don't have to addle anything

[sullen sable]

lmao

[dull radish]

Just live with shields for everything

[spice comet]

[paper torrent]

raws for shear in o6s

wait

OH FUCK

[spice comet]

Everyone likes it excepppt healers

[dull radish]

It's not bad at all if planned out ahead of time

[spice comet]

It isnt i did it too many times

[sullen sable]

yeah most of them are like.... do x heals here then nothing else

[spice comet]

But its like....idk how ur gonna clear god

Good thing this pts prog

[dull radish]

God kefka check is a bit easier, I'd say

If you can keep people alive for god kefka, you should be fine for it, with passing kefka dps check

[spice comet]

👀

👌

[hybrid rapids]

my parse is shit 😖

was farming ultimate and leveling recently

no time for parse run

[sullen sable]

rip

[hybrid rapids]

i think the worst is late 6 weeks into raid

friends stopped doing parse once have their 99% and 100%

[sullen sable]

[hybrid rapids]

i have my coffer

not sure AST or SCH kek

[sullen sable]

sch

fuck ast

[hybrid rapids]

w-wut

i love them all equally

no 🅱ias

:>>

is coffer unique?

can i stack?

[sullen sable]

idk 🤔

we didn't get our 8th before i unsubbed

[hybrid rapids]

😖

[sullen sable]

!item diamond coffer

[hybrid rapids]

will you coming back?

[storm frost]

**Diamond Choker** : Necklace

No match found. Closest possible match displayed.

[hybrid rapids]

like 4.4

[sullen sable]

hmm

[spice comet]

[sullen sable]

maybe for 4.3

drunk 24 man is fun

[spice comet]

!item coffer

[sullen sable]

other than that, idk. i'm very happy to not be playing the game rn

[storm frost]

**Coffinmaker** **:** Machinist's Arm **:** ilvl 130

Damage

57

Magic Damage

41

Auto Attack

50.16

Dexterity

54

Vitality

63

Critical Hit

51

Skill Speed

36

Materia Meldable

No

No match found. Closest possible match displayed.

[spice comet]

!item diamond weapon coffer

[storm frost]

**Diamond Weapon Coffer** : Miscellany

*A heavy chest containing a diamond weapon.

Weapon type determined by current job or class at time of opening. Cannot be opened in instanced areas such as dungeons, PvP areas, or raids.*

[spice comet]

👌

[hybrid rapids]

it's good to take some rest

i was away for like 1 month +

then 5 weeks after 4.2 hits

i feels refreshed now

[sullen sable]

Diamond Weapon Coffer UNIQUE UNTRADABLE

[hybrid rapids]

Unique Untradable

fck

i have to

MAKE A CHOICE

NOW

[sullen sable]

scholar!

[spice comet]

!item diamond codex

[storm frost]

**Diamond Codex** **:** Scholar's Arm **:** ilvl 375

Damage

105

Magic Damage

141

Auto Attack

109.2

Vitality

352

Mind

355

Piety

223

Critical Hit

318

Materia Meldable

Yes

[spice comet]

Its bis n nice

Got it yday 👌 but ast is det...crit...so...

[paper torrent]

O O F

[hybrid rapids]

bae is

baeis

[steep iris]

extra mp hehe

[hybrid rapids]

that 318 critical

it's so tempting

[spice comet]

Ugh i wish sch had det crit

[sullen sable]

DO IT

[hybrid rapids]

!!!

[steep iris]

!item diamond cane

[storm frost]

**Diamond Cane** **:** Two-handed Conjurer's Arm **:** ilvl 375

Damage

105

Magic Damage

141

Auto Attack

120.4

Vitality

352

Mind

355

Piety

223

Spell Speed

318

Materia Meldable

Yes

[spice comet]

No

[steep iris]

oh god

[spice comet]

Get ur 370

[hybrid rapids]

then i have to do next ultimate as SCH / WHM

[steep iris]

kk switching to sch

[spice comet]

Lmao

[sullen sable]

sch + whm is superior!

[spice comet]

!item diamond empersis

[sullen sable]

best combo!

[storm frost]

**Diamond Earrings** : Earrings

No match found. Closest possible match displayed.

[paper torrent]

have you seen

[spice comet]

How do u spell

[hybrid rapids]

i do PUG ultimate

[paper torrent]

diamon d cane

it's an acutal peice of shit

[hybrid rapids]

so have to play multiple role

[paper torrent]

!item diamond cane

[storm frost]

**Diamond Cane** **:** Two-handed Conjurer's Arm **:** ilvl 375

Damage

105

Magic Damage

141

Auto Attack

120.4

Vitality

352

Mind

355

Piety

223

Spell Speed

318

Materia Meldable

Yes

[sullen sable]

ephemeris?

[hybrid rapids]

😖

[paper torrent]

LOOK AT THAT

FUCKING SHIT

IT'S TERRIBLE

[hybrid rapids]

318 spell speed

gotta go fast

[sullen sable]

speedmage

[steep iris]

!item byakurenge kai

[storm frost]

**Byakurenge Kai** **:** Two-handed Conjurer's Arm **:** ilvl 370

Damage

104

Magic Damage

140

Auto Attack

119.25

Vitality

342

Mind

347

Critical Hit

218

Determination

311

Materia Meldable

Yes

[hybrid rapids]

then next ultimate weapon

is the same as 375

but 3 slot

[steep iris]

wow i actually spelled it right

hot damn

[hybrid rapids]

can tell how much you love the 370 tome

[sullen sable]

yeah probably

[steep iris]

how much is 1 WD vs the crit and det on 370 wep anyway

[hybrid rapids]

we don't know

[spice comet]

!item diamond sextant

[hybrid rapids]

stat weight now

[storm frost]

**Diamond Sextant** **:** Astrologian's Arm **:** ilvl 375

Damage

105

Magic Damage

141

Auto Attack

112

Vitality

352

Mind

355

Critical Hit

318

Determination

223

Materia Meldable

Yes

[sullen sable]

wd is prob better

[spice comet]

The fuck is that name

[steep iris]

oh they changed it?

[sullen sable]

it's not like the spell speed is useless

[spice comet]

But yea ast wep

[sullen sable]

sextant is an old navigational tool

[steady pebble]

sex·tant
ˈsekstənt/
noun
noun: sextant; plural noun: sextants

an instrument with a graduated arc of 60° and a sighting mechanism, used for measuring the angular distances between objects and especially for taking altitudes in navigation

[sullen sable]

used by measuring the distance between stars in the sky

[hybrid rapids]

if you read only first 3 words

[spice comet]

👀

[steep iris]

👀

[hybrid rapids]

it's time to bleach your mind

too dirty

[sullen sable]

lol

[spice comet]

👀 👀

[paper torrent]

but

more crit

tho

[sullen sable]

yeah that ast wep is hella good

[spice comet]

Ikr

[sullen sable]

then again

[spice comet]

Wheres sch equilvalent

[sullen sable]

healer substats

[spice comet]

Oh yea the damn byakko book

[steep iris]

where's the whm equivalent

oh wait

im an idiot

[hybrid rapids]

i think i will take SCH and WHM 375

[spice comet]

Lmao

[sullen sable]

good choice

[hybrid rapids]

i don't have time left

until 4.3

<

[sullen sable]

it's ok

just keep doing weekly o8

[steep iris]

isn't 4.3 gonna be like

[sullen sable]

for pages or whatever

[steep iris]

late may tho

[sullen sable]

may 22 is my guess

[steep iris]

it'll be summer for me

that means i will no life eureka 2.0

[sullen sable]

[spice comet]

Whens 4.4

september?

[sullen sable]

don't think we're getting next eureka in 4.3 are we?

[steep iris]

4.3x

iirc

[steady pebble]

likely 4.35

[sullen sable]

o so soon?

[steep iris]

also: another patch without the promised app

[sullen sable]

i would've thought after 4.4

[paper torrent]

implying anyone at SE is working on it besides an intern

nice joke

[steep iris]

they're prob gonna release a new eureka map every 4.x5 patch

[sullen sable]

i guess it's probably n

not a lot of work for them

[steep iris]

looking forward to shiny weps

[pure yoke]

Hi

[dull radish]

heya

[pure yoke]

whatcha up to?

[dull radish]

not too much, as usual

was looking for O7S a bit in pf for my alt but I'm usually lazy about it

so mostly afk watching bf play yakuza 0 while I chat with folks

[pure yoke]

Yakuza 0 is good game

[dull radish]

indeed <3

[pure yoke]

can't wait to play Yakuza 6

[worthy vigil]

2 chests only apply to gear items? If I run a no chest party does the Ryamaku Polish still drop?

[dull radish]

polish comes from a chest

it's included in that pool of items

the only thing you can get from no chest party is the page, if you haven't gotten it for the week yet

[worthy vigil]

Ah ok. Thank you

[stable basin]

... 355 for a shinryu farm, seriously owo

probably why this guy's group isn't filling rofl

(also he has [Duty Complete] in grey in the description instead of specified properly, smh)

[hybrid rapids]

#rants

[wheat garnet]

Didn't this channel fulfill its purpose now that eureka is old news ?

But then I guess I'm going off topic

Nevermind

[scenic patrol]

It's a nice channel to talk about savage

At least

[hybrid rapids]

the other channel filled with casuals, here's our last remains shelter

just kidding

it's a nice channel to talk about Lv.70 stuff

[lucid karma]

there are also topics about endgame crafting/gathering once in a while as well

[unique wolf]

tfw people think eurkea is end game

[hybrid rapids]

glamour is !

[paper torrent]

did... Eanae even really define what endgame was for this

i assumed it meant level 70 stuff

[lucid karma]

I demand casual endgame lvl 70

[stable basin]

that's eureka, virshy

blah. i got so many things done today and now i'm not sure what i wanna do with the rest of the night lol

[lucid karma]

just sleep

you earn it

[stable basin]

besides wait the about two hours or so to find out if the sub brought back the aurelia polyp

maybe i should go get some beer

[steep iris]

ughh

we keep hitting enrage on kefka

[heavy mist]

make sure to have utime

[unique wolf]

respect the content less

[heavy mist]

uptime*

and how close are u guys

61%?

[steep iris]

60% was our lowest

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/Gxq9LWwBjvHrDdyM#type=damage-done&fight=21

:(

[unique wolf]

that says 61 tho

[steep iris]

it was in another pull

[woeful prawn]

wipe 22 is 60

[heavy mist]

does uh

[unique wolf]

how is it possible that to drag the fight onto 6:59

[heavy mist]

you know

your brd okay

[unique wolf]

i dont think i've ever seen him enrage so late in my life

[steep iris]

we had a 7 min enrage before iirc

well, it was only 1 second longer

[wet stag]

Wow

[heavy mist]

gotta tell BRD to fix himself up

ngl

[wet stag]

Content respecters

[heavy mist]

His DPS in other fights is 😦

[woeful prawn]

you can see that light of judgement damage went out at 6:55

but log cuts out at 6:59

[unique wolf]

why are you guys all grey

besides like 1 person

[steep iris]

kefka wipes are parsed weirdly for some reason

[heavy mist]

NIN seems good

[unique wolf]

only reason why ur hitting enrage

[heavy mist]

NIN carrying

MNK needs to do more dps

BRD

i guess RDM too 🤷

[steep iris]

like

if I had 2.5k dps in clear I'd be 85%

but it's 56%

[heavy mist]

im just looking at O6S

[woeful prawn]

yeah wipe logs are alwayus hyper grey for some reason

[heavy mist]

which is easy to see if people can actually do dps

[woeful prawn]

but then you clear and its still hyper grey

[stable basin]

also fflogs treats data somewhat differently from ACT

sometimes independently of how you have ACT set up

[unique wolf]

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/FvtW2NQPVfHGn1y3#fight=33&type=damage-done

this was our first kefka clear day 1 of sigmascape

at i350

u should be able to put up at least ehse numbers

13 weeks in

[stable basin]

consider wipes in ex primals that have echo

every time i've had that happen of late, fflogs will glue the wipe with the echo clear

even if i had hit end encounter in ACT before the next pull

[heavy mist]

@steep iris but yeah just comparing o6s logs for each one of your party members

most people ahve blue or higher

[woeful prawn]

gear doesnt carry in xiv

[heavy mist]

MNK only has 1 blue tho

BRD has green or grey

[unique wolf]

[heavy mist]

then again could be because of no DRG, but could be something to look into

[steep iris]

I was so excited to clear it today T_T

[heavy mist]

send a log to a balance people who can actually read it for their class

[steep iris]

but now we're calling it for the night sigh

[stable basin]

then there is shinryu

where depending on how the phase transition goes, you're lucky if the log will upload properly

[woeful prawn]

your warrior is main tanking the entire pull

[steep iris]

should we not?

[woeful prawn]

good lord no

[paper torrent]

you have two sets of tank cooldownsw

warrior starts freaking out too many mechs

[heavy mist]

o.o

unless its o6s

u should be switching

[steep iris]

kk I'll let them know

[woeful prawn]

warrior pull -> paladin provokes during light
-> paladin covers warrior during side to side knockback + uses sentinel
-> paladin hallows the hyperdrive
-> warrior provokes after gravity puddle mechanic and HGs the hyperdrive
-> paladin covers warrior for final hyperdrive

[scenic patrol]

wait wait, you have Warrior taking all busters to the face?

the fuck?

also you can swap back to PLD for last buster as well

both options are viable

but never let one tank sit on his CDs

[wet stag]

Swapping every hyperdrive works too

That's what I do

[scenic patrol]

swapping right after every untargetable phase is what most people do

LoJ > Aero > LoJ

iirc

[stable basin]

lol figures that I get the lakshmi doggo and now there are lakshmi farm parties all over the place and basically no susano or shinryu

[steep iris]

alrighty

here's to hoping we clear this next time with the advice

thanks!

[scenic patrol]

I had a 60% wipe as well

last raid night

[zinc vortex]

feels bad man

soon™

60% wipes are the worst

[heavy mist]

feelsbad

[steep iris]

let's get it down 👀

[scenic patrol]

the DRG died due to B4B

on second LoJ

[heavy mist]

im scared sometimes to use B4B

[scenic patrol]

I should have not used my SiO on puddles

[heavy mist]

cause i dunno if healers can shield me

[scenic patrol]

and delayed it for LoJ

[zinc vortex]

[scenic patrol]

that shield would have probably saved him

[stable basin]

hrm did they forget that "the path of light" had already been used as an enemy skill name?

or just not care (like the 47 billion different Akh Morns)

[zinc vortex]

[sterile geyser]

Solvents from o7s are only used for weapons, right?

[scenic patrol]

yes

[sterile geyser]

just got my first one in a pug group

wasnt even planning to upgrade weapon anytime soon cause all the solvents in my previous static were dedicated to dps

got my first Weave as well... I'm assuming chestpiece will give the biggest boost in stats so I'll upgrade it first

[scenic patrol]

yes

I assume you play PLD and iirc raid pants are your BiS

[heavy mist]

chest and weapon 💦

[sterile geyser]

thats correct

[scenic patrol]

so chest is priority

[heavy mist]

i think tome can be subbed for faster GCD iirc

if one wanted

[scenic patrol]

yeah, tome pants are also good

but tome chest is BiS no matter what

for all tanks

[heavy mist]

imagine getting raid chest

[sterile geyser]

lol wheee all 4 materia failed to remove

rip

oh i forgot i got a Polish this week too. guess my DRG gets a ring upgrade

cause pld is all crafted right side, and raid belt is best belt

ive not "needed" o5s for anything the entire tier after belt drop ><;

[zinc vortex]

[sterile geyser]

its pretty mismatched because i dont have the other pieces dyeable yet but, I still think sky blue looks rather acceptable on the ryumyaku set:

[zinc vortex]

looks fine tbh

[sterile geyser]

hm... now im sitting here looking at headgear and thinking.... why is mendacity helm suggested over diamond for pld

its det/sks versus crit/tenacity

i know tenacity sucks but... pld doesnt need any sks afaik

well in any case, my gcd is still below the recommended 2.43 so going with the diamond helm until i get another weave at the very least

hooray i360

[paper torrent]

you can go to 2.38 if you like

going lower on GCD means your FoF timing is less strict iirc

[sterile geyser]

I'll prolly have to swap it back in later. im still using the carborandum pants until diamond pants drop, so thats a chunk of sks I'll lose

but my next weave will go to shoes since those are actually BiS

[paper torrent]

2.38 also syncs with warrior BS speed

BIS*

[scenic patrol]

2.43 is also viable for Warrior

[boreal edge]

@unique wolf we had 7 mins kefka kill lol

@scenic patrol

[scenic patrol]

[hybrid rapids]

that's 6:57

not 7

[boreal edge]

i mean look at deaths

lol

[hybrid rapids]

also, your alarm is ringing soon

[boreal edge]

huh??

@hybrid rapids here

[hybrid rapids]

wipe

[boreal edge]

its kill

but triggered as wipe

[hybrid rapids]

oh

[boreal edge]

bad fflogs

[hybrid rapids]

so close

[boreal edge]

[hybrid rapids]

isn't someone had god kill

like very last millisecond

then it considered as wipe

yet got the feather hahaa

but you see the transition after?

[boreal edge]

yes they got alpha feather but not coffers/token

we have boss at 58% after 2nd forsaken Light of judgement

so i believe we have more than just enough dps

and due loads of shit going in godka

it feels short lol

[hybrid rapids]

i meant you see the god after with that 7 mins kill?

seems so anyway

[boreal edge]

like 3rd forsaken happen

at 6 mins

and we were like

its already 6 mins passed?

lol

after i got that kefka purple

now every kill after it is clownshow

at least

we can start affording deaths now

without seeing enrage

like those 7 deaths kill

[fading shoal]

hey guys so i just got an alt mch to 70 and geared up now where can i go to practice it?

besides the dummies ofc

[heavy mist]

in Trials

[hybrid rapids]

stone sky sea

[fading shoal]

just said besides the dummies .-.

[heavy mist]

if u wanted real practice

[fading shoal]

already practiced my rotation enough

[heavy mist]

Deltascape normal or savage

Sigmascape normal or savage

[hybrid rapids]

stone sky sea

😠

[heavy mist]

if u can O1S

[fading shoal]

cant really do sigma savage cuz already cleared most of em with my main so cant join practice

[heavy mist]

O1N

O6S

O6N

the dummy fights

where barely anything happens