#endgame-lounge | Final Fantasy XIV | Page 351

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 2:58 AM

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yea...the worst part is the PLD said was my fault lol

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then guys checked back the replay

lucid karma Apr 10, 2018, 2:59 AM

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ouch

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 2:59 AM

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if not definitely a kill

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since had it down to 8%~9% before last 10 seconds cast

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:00 AM

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with that setup you can have an extra mitigation layer for every morn afah

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:00 AM

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😖

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:00 AM

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so if 1 thing is missing it won't kill

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:00 AM

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you can't

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there's 5 of them

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in 180~200 seconds frame

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:01 AM

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my grp did it with same setup so you can

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:01 AM

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can let me know your setup?

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i was doing it in PUG

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with few of my friends

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:01 AM

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1 extra layer for each one so people survive with like 20k if nothing is missed

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:02 AM

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your comp?

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same?

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:02 AM

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same yea

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:02 AM

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i can't decide tho...

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not sure how to add a layer

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SCH

adlo + deploy
largesses + succor + soil
succor + soil
succor + soil
dissipate + largesses + adlo + deploy

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which part can i add an extra layer?

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or use adlo deploy earlier?

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:04 AM

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it's grp cds

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and where are cov and illum used?

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:05 AM

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caster 3 times addle?

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:05 AM

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yes addle lines up with shake

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:05 AM

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conv is for both adlo deploy

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:05 AM

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then you get 2 veils and passage

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:05 AM

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ahhh

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we had only 1 veil

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Or2

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:06 AM

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you probably don't want cov on each deploy

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:06 AM

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not necessary?

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:06 AM

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better to use it on the succor ones

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:06 AM

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they even asked me to dissipate for extra 20%

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:07 AM

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and got to have troubadour for one of the succor ones

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or one with no addle+shake

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:07 AM

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2nd...and 4th....

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where i did succor + soil only

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true

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thanks for advice !

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:09 AM

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it's really easy to have 1 extra mitigation on each one

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:09 AM

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yea, we planned it late

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so only managed to use once instead of twice

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then one small mistake = wipe

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:09 AM

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I think we veil 2 and 5

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then passage 4

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:10 AM

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we got to golden bahamut 3 times in 1 set yesterday

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1st wipe was that PLD reprisal

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2nd wipe was WAR reprisal

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:10 AM

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got to plan better mitigation then

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:10 AM

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3rd is DPS died to exaflare

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kms

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so you're right

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:10 AM

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should never wipe due to 1 mitigation missing

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:10 AM

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reprisal miss twice

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:10 AM

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with all other shields and stuff up

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:11 AM

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need at least 30% mitigations each right?

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:11 AM

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yes

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soil+reprisal is 20% already on each one

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:11 AM

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i actually used an extra fey cov

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:11 AM

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you have addle for 3 of them

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:11 AM

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so we managed to survive except physical DPS

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fey cov only boost self magic defense

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Or2

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:13 AM

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so if you addle+shake on 1, 3, 5

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:13 AM

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also shouldn't use LB3 on opener?

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:13 AM

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the shake is already an extra layer and you will survive those with the reprisal missing

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then the only dangerous ones are 2 and 4

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:13 AM

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correct

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:13 AM

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make sure one of them is deploy adlo

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and one is passage

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:13 AM

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we had shake it off

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on like once.....

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wtf....

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:14 AM

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shake should be 3 times

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:14 AM

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yea, i think that mitigations planning was bad

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but it's actually my first time enter as SCH

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so didn't sure with mitigations

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thanks again !

pure yoke Apr 10, 2018, 3:19 AM

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meanwhile

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I am like

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what is ultimate

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:19 AM

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it's fun

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when you're boring to wait for next ultimate

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so you trap ultimate

raw cliff Apr 10, 2018, 3:19 AM

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it's what groups do when they realize SB speedruns/logs are RNG and garbage

pure yoke Apr 10, 2018, 3:19 AM

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I don't have a group willing to do ultimate

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:20 AM

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ask tiff to help

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it's like around 1 month away

pure yoke Apr 10, 2018, 3:20 AM

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still alot of hours to prog

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:20 AM

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from 4.3?

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some of my friend feels happy when they got past nael

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they didn't aim for a clear

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just wanted to see bahamut

pure yoke Apr 10, 2018, 3:26 AM

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I also get pretty stressed easily

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from prog

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:28 AM

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i think the easiest way to destress is

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turn off BGM

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and have your own anime song playing

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such relaxing progressing

pure yoke Apr 10, 2018, 3:31 AM

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I am also listening in voice

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intensely

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I also beat myself up everytime I make a mistake

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:31 AM

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w-wutt...

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you gotta make yourself in hospital

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if progressing ultimate coil

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:32 AM

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Espresso I feel you

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I wipe my godka raid so much

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How do I keep fucking up forsaken 2

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:33 AM

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khliyh killed godka?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:33 AM

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feelschromosomeman

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Not yet

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:33 AM

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your job is tank?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:33 AM

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Yeah

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:33 AM

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which strategy you using?

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south?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:33 AM

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Yeah

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But I know how to do mid

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:33 AM

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usually fcked up on circle?

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didn't get in on time?

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or future/past?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:33 AM

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I still get confused with future/past lol

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But I set up triggers

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:34 AM

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ahh

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:34 AM

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Timeline I mean

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Should be ok

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:34 AM

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b

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yea, the cast was short

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luckily PUG here mostly do mid hahaha

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so i just follow them

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:34 AM

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I'm more comfortable with south

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Just because I've done it more

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:34 AM

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i think mid give better uptime

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yeaa

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south is easyy

pure yoke Apr 10, 2018, 3:35 AM

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I feel like

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:35 AM

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since you're close to your circle

pure yoke Apr 10, 2018, 3:35 AM

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everytime I wipe a raid

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:35 AM

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Yeah

pure yoke Apr 10, 2018, 3:35 AM

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I am wasting everyone's time

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:35 AM

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Same

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Was especially bad since our pld is leaving

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:35 AM

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that's why i don't healer meld DH

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:35 AM

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Wasting people's time + time limit

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playdead

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:35 AM

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he going to leave before clear?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:36 AM

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I mean he cleared with pugs

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:36 AM

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i think as long as it's not repeated mistake again and again should be fine

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ahhh

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:36 AM

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Hi I'm a repeated mistake

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playdead

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:36 AM

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umaru

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drk

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don't make us shame

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do the best

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inb4 war replaced us

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Bruh I'm so bad at drk

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Can't even get purple on guardian

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Why live

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:37 AM

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it's because you haven't got your 375

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Shouldn't matter

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:37 AM

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wait, is it BiS?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:37 AM

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I have 370

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I'm at full 370 left side

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Still blue on guardian

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:37 AM

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i...i just tried to comfort drk pal....

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:38 AM

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I mean thanks, but it's just bc I'm bad

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:38 AM

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you MT it?

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drop grit !

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:38 AM

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I do

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I'm in grit for 4 gcds

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Bc daps combo

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That's it

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:39 AM

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my DRK isn't raid ready Or2

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ilvl 340 BiS

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just kidding

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i have no crafted pentas

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kms

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:39 AM

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Me neither

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I have one triple one quad

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Wait I have 1 Penta nvm

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But the rest are diamond

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:40 AM

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i thought we were non-penta friend

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:40 AM

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Lmao

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Brb removing one materia from my penta

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:41 AM

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10/10

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i'm just lazy

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since drk isn't my main

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:41 AM

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I have no money lol

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:41 AM

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just a trap when i get boring

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:41 AM

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Spent it all on pots and food

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 3:41 AM

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i have no money

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:41 AM

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i craft my own

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so that's fine

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 3:41 AM

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i sepnt it all on glamour

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and ERP

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:41 AM

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people here are self-sufficient

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 3:41 AM

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and my house

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Wait tsun what dc are you on

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Lala

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Erp

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🚓

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Gaia

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come join me

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Oh

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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i craft you food

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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I know too many people on Tonberry

pure yoke Apr 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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I do want to clear ultimate

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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And I'm not going through the fucking msq again

pure yoke Apr 10, 2018, 3:42 AM

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I just don't have the willpower

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I feel like I am not good unless I clear ultimate

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:43 AM

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mug, you can do it on 4.3 as well

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you're pretty good in optimizing your job

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:43 AM

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They should be keeping the level sync

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So no rush

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blobwizard

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:43 AM

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ultimate is not hard, it's scripted

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need more practices

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but the optimization part is more important

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:45 AM

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I also can't get purple on kefka

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:45 AM

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hmm

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Why am I bad

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:46 AM

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if you can do 3.4k at least

pure yoke Apr 10, 2018, 3:46 AM

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I'm pretty consistent in kefka

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:46 AM

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I peaked at 3.6

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Can get 3.5 regularly with pot

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:46 AM

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yea, that's pass-able

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no worries

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to get purple

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you have to wait emiin clear the fight first

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:47 AM

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📎 Screenshot_2018-04-10-11-47-06-190_com.android.chrome.png

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:47 AM

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then ask for tips

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:47 AM

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That

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Consistency

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Sorted by date btw

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:47 AM

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top is first?

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or bottom is first?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:47 AM

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Top is first

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The bottom one was yesterday

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:48 AM

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maybe there were some deaths

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at least you tried

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paissasquint

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:48 AM

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No deaths

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Well I think I died sometimes in my greys

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But not all of them

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:48 AM

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uptime and rotations?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:48 AM

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My uptime is p good I think

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:49 AM

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maybe crit then

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need more crit

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and party synergy

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:49 AM

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Wait how good is uptime with unreal strat

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Because gravitas cucks me

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:49 AM

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that's a down time tho

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if you do box start

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where did you positioned kefka?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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During gravitas?

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East

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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w-wut

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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To prep for aero

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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north

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my friend

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you don't have to re-positioning again

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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Elemental pug is either east/west tho

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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east is for line strat

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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Yeah

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Line strat

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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wait

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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That's unreal

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:50 AM

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you do line or box?

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i'm confused

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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Line

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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ahh

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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So I get cucked

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I guess I can sprint

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And I save plunge for the knockbacks

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:51 AM

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did you saved plunge for aero?

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correct

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that animation lock

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tho

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:52 AM

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Yeah Im not so consistent

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But I get it like 60% of the time

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:52 AM

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how far have you progressed god?

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until 3rd forsaken / enrage yet?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:53 AM

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I've been to f4 once

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Can kinda get f3 consistently

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:53 AM

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close enough

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i think your PLD probably leaving

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after this week

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:53 AM

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Yeah

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:53 AM

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so try your best !

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:53 AM

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After we do weeklies on Wednesday that's it lol

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:53 AM

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wtf

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lmao

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that's a goodbye

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Yeah until 4.4 at least

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I think he said

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:54 AM

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i think he just wanted to farm his own

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selfish !

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Nah he has exams

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He already has the diamond sword lmfao

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On his first fuckin clear

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:56 AM

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omg

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good luck on finding a new PLD Or2

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i only can help you if you were on gaia

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:56 AM

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That's the first time I've seen or2 rather than orz

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Face down ass up...

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:56 AM

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or

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Or2

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has big head

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big butt

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Orz

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wtf

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Yeah I quite like elemental tbh

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Also my jp is still kinda trash

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Orz is when you feel down

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Or2 is when you did something wrong

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Isnt it the same

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:57 AM

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oh..right

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Ah well

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:58 AM

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language barrier

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:58 AM

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At least people understand when I shitpost on elemental

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:58 AM

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true

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we're the most "JP DC" here

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most fams ain't even bother to put JP only

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:59 AM

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Lmao

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:59 AM

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because more than 95%

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:59 AM

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So many jp onry on elemental

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 3:59 AM

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is a JP

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 3:59 AM

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You know how to spot the trap parties in elemental yeah?

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:00 AM

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erm..nope

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:00 AM

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The description is in english

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:00 AM

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lol

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most english parties are bad?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:00 AM

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I'm not even kidding

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Yeah

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I've had maybe

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2 good E parties

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Since the beginning of this tier

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:00 AM

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we have like 0 english party here

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or rarely 1 per month or so

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:01 AM

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Lemme find the fflogs

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O5s

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3 mins in

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One sec

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:01 AM

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6 wipes?

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6 deaths?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:01 AM

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Everyone is grey 3 mins in

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How

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:01 AM

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that's a wipe

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or enrage

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:02 AM

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Was a wipe

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:02 AM

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20k

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not enough

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:02 AM

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I think it was first head on?

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:02 AM

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haha

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i can tell most english players on elemental

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has bad latency

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at least they tried

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:02 AM

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Aussie internet

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Not their fault

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But wow

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That was so bad

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:06 AM

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most 1~3 parties are bad now

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:06 AM

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Hahaha yeah

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:06 AM

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good players already have 4 on farm

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:06 AM

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I join some of them for fun

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Yeah

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Good players

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Not me haha

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:06 AM

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don't give up !

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the last drk

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:07 AM

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Gonna try pugs

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On thurs

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Or look for a carry from people I know

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:08 AM

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yea, if you can see enrage

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and be more consistence

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💯

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Maybe I should learn to play drk first

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haha

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:11 AM

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!faq drkguide

storm frostBOT Apr 10, 2018, 4:11 AM

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Dark Knight Guide

Info

💯 DRK Guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uYLWxWayYrliAmwJb8B7y0edm7LamvnGkPfjq2CcVYE/

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:11 AM

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read it

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and be good

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or wait emiin clear it

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then ask for tips

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but he haven't complete kefka yet

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:13 AM

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Ive read the guide lol

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So many times

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Guess it couldn't hurt to read it again

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 4:13 AM

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yea

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understanding and practical

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is 2 different part

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:23 AM

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Oh there we go

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There's a dark arts there

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feelschromosomeman

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:23 AM

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O NO

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DARK ARTS

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MY MORTAL ENEMY, NOT HAVING MANA TO TBN

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:25 AM

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I kept forgetting the da in between ps and hs

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feelschromosomeman

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:25 AM

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oof

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it's okay it feels nasty anyway

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Capping mp feels worse

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Which I do

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Constantly

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:26 AM

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i dunno

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just using DA

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to get more aggro

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feels wrong

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:28 AM

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140 potency lost

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Sucks but it's whatever

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It's not even a plunge

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:29 AM

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I know but it's just a psychological thing

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give DRK better aggro mangement k thx

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or you know, just give me a warrior

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so i don't have to pull

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:30 AM

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It's like

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5 dps loss

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:31 AM

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but

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the loss

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is my sanity

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:31 AM

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Negligible

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:31 AM

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you rite

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time to DAPS all year

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:32 AM

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Once you daps 5 times

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That's a 50 dps loss

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Starts getting significant

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So dont

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:32 AM

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do DRKs ever win

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DADM?

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:32 AM

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They win in my heart

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Yeah dadm is sick for triple diffractives during biblio

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:33 AM

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i wish i liked DRK in raids better than paladin

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i acutally kinda like req+FoF

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makes an interesting rotaiton

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where you're like, okay req, now FoF, and DoTs

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:33 AM

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Yeah that's fair

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Idk I see drk as a rhythm game

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You follow the same steady beat of hs ss se

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But you're doing so much else at the same time

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Carve, salted, tbn etc

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 4:34 AM

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I've been less enthusiastic about tanking lately than I used to be

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 4:36 AM

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headpat

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:36 AM

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it's okay

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i'm kinda of the same way

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it's why i'm unsubbing soon

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just wanna take a break from it all for a bit

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 4:40 AM

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rdm, on the other hand, is love

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except for douchebag pug leaders that lock it out

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:41 AM

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does that acutaly happen

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i usually see it up

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 4:41 AM

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@paper torrent I saw it happen on fucking Lakshmi of all things last night

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:41 AM

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WHAT

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 4:41 AM

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they locked out all casters but SMN

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:41 AM

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THE FUCK?

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LMAO

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 4:41 AM

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... yup.

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Then I got kicked after the first run for changing job to RDM lol

paper torrent Apr 10, 2018, 4:42 AM

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"Lakshimi ex is a hard fight, we need to enforce the meta for muh speed clears"

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i would join

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switch to rdm

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and then wait till they kick me

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 5:22 AM

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^5

proven yarrow Apr 10, 2018, 9:51 AM

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er whats the best 370 tank accessory to get if i can only get 1

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 9:52 AM

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Get crafted if you can afford it

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Otherwise the one with most crit

blazing pelican Apr 10, 2018, 9:52 AM

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the earrings I think

proven yarrow Apr 10, 2018, 9:53 AM

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crafted 😬

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wouldnt ring be best, it has crit and it replaces a 350 ring im currently wearing

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 9:53 AM

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Crafted Penta is bis for tank accs

proven yarrow Apr 10, 2018, 9:55 AM

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isnt it a bit late into the tier to do that though?

heavy mist Apr 10, 2018, 9:55 AM

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uh its BIS for tanks

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i mean it doesnt get outdated for them until 4.4

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🤔

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 9:56 AM

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Yeah you have 4-5 months

proven yarrow Apr 10, 2018, 9:56 AM

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oh ok

wet stag Apr 10, 2018, 9:56 AM

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For it to stay bis

tough knot Apr 10, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Which kind of materia is considered useless for the most part?

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 11:48 AM

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none

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you can transmute it

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umaru

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 11:49 AM

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Hey guys just reached 70 yesterday, some people advised me to go get i300 from the dungeons but can't i just join eureka?

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 11:50 AM

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you can

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do you have your AF3 yet?

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290

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accessories i think is fine

tough knot Apr 10, 2018, 11:50 AM

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lol let me rephrase that: which materia are recommended to be transmuted?

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 11:50 AM

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what does AF3 mean?

steady pebble Apr 10, 2018, 11:51 AM

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main stat materia, outside of like vitality, should be transmuted

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 11:51 AM

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I did get some i300 acces from the lvl 70 dungeons

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 11:51 AM

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STR ><

steady pebble Apr 10, 2018, 11:51 AM

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AF3 = artifact gear 3 so the job gear you get from your lvl 70 job quest

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oh yeah str also can saved/sold

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 11:51 AM

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O i got that yeah

tough knot Apr 10, 2018, 11:51 AM

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So Dex/Int/Mind materis then?

steady pebble Apr 10, 2018, 11:52 AM

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yeah. i personally also transmute piety and tenacity materia but you might get some money from that

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 11:52 AM

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@lavish cobalt unless you wanna do a leech, just afk and wait people to trigger eureka
but you are a fresh Lv.70, try to experience the eureka as a player first

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it's mixed comment of good and bad

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 11:53 AM

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Xd sounds pretty badmannered to leech but i wanna test it out

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Heard of a t-rex mount and relic gear

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.>

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 11:53 AM

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it isn't ban-able

tough knot Apr 10, 2018, 11:53 AM

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Eureka's alright but it could be better

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 11:53 AM

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just people hates you

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haha

tough knot Apr 10, 2018, 11:54 AM

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I mean if you're a lowbie in Eureka it's understandable

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Since everything can one-shot you

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 11:55 AM

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ooff uhm would you guys suggests lvl 70 dungeons or eureka? ._.

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 11:55 AM

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eureka if you've completed your Lv.70 job quest

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Alright thanks!

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 11:55 AM

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enjoy !

azure hill Apr 10, 2018, 12:04 PM

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The level 70 dungeons give pretty bad gear

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You need 310 to get into the ones that drop 325 gear

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And running the first one repeatedly for 300 gear is a waste of time

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Especially considering killing Eureka NMs give tomestones

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 12:17 PM

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is there an eureka guide for beginners?

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 12:20 PM

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no

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i can give some tips

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it's like palace of the dead

dull radish Apr 10, 2018, 12:21 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/85g5ze/eureka_map_and_discord_girl_makes_a_newbie/

Eureka Map and Discord Girl makes a Newbie Leveling Guide! • r/ffxiv

Hi Reddit. It's me again. Albeon. This time I'm making a text post and not a link post because I've learned not to be stupid. But without further...

hybrid rapids Apr 10, 2018, 12:21 PM

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ohh

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that's like

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i was going to say how to hide from monster

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 12:39 PM

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what are the tips luna

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i just died multiple times trying to explore the map a bit ._.

boreal edge Apr 10, 2018, 12:45 PM

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@lavish cobalt its palace of the dead metal gear solid ver

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i say leave exploring last

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it will happen on its own while you are levelling

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 12:55 PM

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Exploring is a bit hard at first, basically enemies have a small range if u go behind their back they wont see u, some will tho base on stuff like hp, whether u run, walk, follow the nm train is safest option

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But yea exploring takes more skill, ull see the map anyways doing nms

azure hill Apr 10, 2018, 1:21 PM

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It's also notable that the monsters have different kind of aggro

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Some have sight aggro, but the sprites have magic aggro (i.e. if you cast Verraise) and the fans have sound aggro iirc

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Some even have blood aggro, where they won't care about you

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But if you take damage, it's dinnertime 🍴

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 1:27 PM

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Yep low hp=ur screwed its the wraiths n stuff

azure hill Apr 10, 2018, 1:28 PM

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I think for sound aggro it's fine to walk but not to sprint?

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Or maybe it was the sprint cast itself that triggered stuff trying to eat you

dull radish Apr 10, 2018, 1:29 PM

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you need to specifically walk, not run or sprint

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 1:29 PM

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Yep

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Sound must walk

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U run past u still ded

rapid grove Apr 10, 2018, 1:49 PM

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For the weekly restrictions on savage

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say I haven't clear o5s/o6s

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and go straight for o7s JUST for practice

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will going after for o5s and o6s loot be affected? @.@

untold oyster Apr 10, 2018, 1:50 PM

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It counts you as clearing those floors and you won't be able to get your data log or chests

rapid grove Apr 10, 2018, 1:50 PM

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Ahh, dang

untold oyster Apr 10, 2018, 1:50 PM

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So don't skip

rapid grove Apr 10, 2018, 1:50 PM

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Many thanks Locke

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Roger :3

untold oyster Apr 10, 2018, 1:50 PM

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Yee

boreal edge Apr 10, 2018, 2:10 PM

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@untold oyster why the elitist answer questions?

untold oyster Apr 10, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Because a true elitist wants people to do good and improve

boreal edge Apr 10, 2018, 2:11 PM

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@untold oyster no the real elitist trashtalk ppl below 99%

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GWqlabsYaoLUL

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 3:02 PM

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Should i follow a nm train as a lvl 1 in eureka?

boreal edge Apr 10, 2018, 3:04 PM

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yes

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 3:04 PM

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Alright thanks!

boreal edge Apr 10, 2018, 3:04 PM

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note that try not aggro anything

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they will auto you for 300k

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 3:05 PM

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Ahh thanks for the tip, i've seen it on twitch a couple times yeah big dmg numbers :p

dull radish Apr 10, 2018, 3:06 PM

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mmhmm, folks are generally good at ressing and helping newbies along with the train, just try to keep with the group as much as possible

lavish cobalt Apr 10, 2018, 3:06 PM

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got it, thanks

blazing pelican Apr 10, 2018, 4:01 PM

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!whologs @blazing pelican

storm frostBOT Apr 10, 2018, 4:01 PM

#

Yen Moonvow of Jenova

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Scholar: (987/9876) [2630.93 DPS] [93.1 Historical] [6:34]
Astrologian: (619/6878) [2141.19 DPS] [92.9 Historical] [7:06]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Scholar: (246/9486) [3150.45 DPS] [98.3 Historical] [7:43]
White Mage: (2892/11125) [2112.34 DPS] [76.3 Historical] [8:31]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Scholar: (337/7005) [2881.71 DPS] [95.2 Historical] [9:50]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Scholar: (381/5271) [2770.51 DPS] [92.5 Historical] [6:03]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Scholar: (630/3502) [2229.94 DPS] [82.9 Historical] [9:43]

blazing pelican Apr 10, 2018, 4:02 PM

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barely above 95th on O7S

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better than nothing

dull radish Apr 10, 2018, 4:03 PM

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Mmhmm, orange is orange

boreal edge Apr 10, 2018, 4:09 PM

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@blazing pelican can get orange in o7s but cant in o5s

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GWqlabsYaoLUL

blazing pelican Apr 10, 2018, 4:09 PM

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god I hate that train

untold oyster Apr 10, 2018, 4:21 PM

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o5s is a gay fight tbh

azure hill Apr 10, 2018, 4:22 PM

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I would imagine you of all people would enjoy Head On, Locke

untold oyster Apr 10, 2018, 4:23 PM

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I'm gay, not a degenerate tbh

azure hill Apr 10, 2018, 4:25 PM

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This more your kind of train? http://i.somethingawful.com/rompit/choaniki/mantrain.gif

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 4:52 PM

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dammit what happened to pfs for individual turns for savage

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now like everything's asking for you to be able to weekly 6 or 7 in addition to 5

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 4:52 PM

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Weeklies paissasquint

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Also easier cause one pt for 3 versus finding mems each time

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 4:57 PM

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Also has no dupes become an obsession to the point of meme since Byakko?

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I'm seeing it in O5S still, I've also seen it in Lakshmi (that's what the leader claimed as the reason for not wanting RDMs to join, "we have one" LOL)

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 4:58 PM

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Savage is more for lb, since dps checks in pug o7s still somewhat tight

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And idk yea byakko memes does influence things or the pf was just bad they needed that lb

dull radish Apr 10, 2018, 4:59 PM

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I see folks lock out duplicate jobs more than they lock out things like casters or SAM or whatever, which I find a bit more preferable, nice change of pace

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 4:59 PM

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well, from my experience tanking (since I was forced to tank thanks to that damnable leader) that lakshmi the other night, everyone in the group seemed to hate each other

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because we got a clear without wipes and then we disbanded lol

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now I tell friends don't join that person's pfs :p

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 5:00 PM

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Yea dup job lock outs have been more common which means more dps so ill take it

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 5:01 PM

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the ironic thing being that no dupes on byakko is becoming a dead strategy

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 5:01 PM

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Its hard with dups

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No dups byakko is ez

sullen sable Apr 10, 2018, 5:02 PM

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You have to actually gasp do mechanics

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 5:02 PM

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Cause lb and ppl cant dps tiger, i did a dups pt byakko but that was with high dps

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U cant do that normall with pugs cause gasp dps

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 5:03 PM

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yeah but soon you're gonna have to

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 5:03 PM

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When a pug avg is barely 19k aka mininal for byakko yea

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paissasquint nah ppl just gonna keep it locked

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 5:03 PM

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since unless you have a sch and/or noct ast and thery know exactly what to do, from what I understand at higher gear levels you don't get lb3 reliably

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 5:03 PM

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Nope

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Lb 3 u always get

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If no dups

dull radish Apr 10, 2018, 5:04 PM

#

it'd be different if it was an HP transition

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but it's just time

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so unless you have dupes or do it unsynced

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it won't matter

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 5:04 PM

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If u want lb3 in dups we found it was 2 ded and lotta critical hp healing

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paissasquint unreliable strats

stable basin Apr 10, 2018, 5:05 PM

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that's what I mean, I've had people mention that at 360-370 gear levels there starts not being enough incoming damage

dull radish Apr 10, 2018, 5:06 PM

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you misunderstand how LB works

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you always gain some over time when you're in battle

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you get more if you cheese LB with critical shielding/healing/stuns/silences

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but that no-dupe LB gen is fixed

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and is enough on its own to get LB3 in time

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 5:06 PM

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No....

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Like....yea

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We get lb3

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We were all in 360-370 ilvl from raid paissasquint

dull radish Apr 10, 2018, 5:07 PM

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the only time higher ilvl would matter is if you specifically relied on critical healing/shielding for it to be up

pure yoke Apr 10, 2018, 5:07 PM

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Just skip the tiger

dull radish Apr 10, 2018, 5:07 PM

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but you don't for that

spice comet Apr 10, 2018, 5:07 PM

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When we had 2 drg u need crit hp lol for lb3

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So we killed our drg

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10/10

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Plz skip tiger not yet

woeful prawn Apr 10, 2018, 5:13 PM

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why dont you unironically caster lb the tiger and have dots tick on him while he's fucking up the OT

true lark Apr 11, 2018, 2:08 AM

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hell yeah got #1 6

lucid karma Apr 11, 2018, 2:18 AM

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more than enough

blazing pelican Apr 11, 2018, 2:19 AM

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That's fine, just remember you won't be acting in a vacuum

wet stag Apr 11, 2018, 2:19 AM

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What class?

lucid karma Apr 11, 2018, 2:19 AM

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you'll be fine

wet stag Apr 11, 2018, 2:19 AM

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Yeah that's alright

lucid karma Apr 11, 2018, 2:19 AM

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high uptime anyway on O5S as ranged

pure yoke Apr 11, 2018, 2:25 AM

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man

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everyone and their mom is going for the double lb3

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life

grizzled seal Apr 11, 2018, 2:26 AM

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if you watched a guide and can do your rotation fine, you're more than qualified for learning parties

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 3:06 AM

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if you parse 5.6k on dummy generally you can prog pretty well, assuming you stay at that dps

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smn has ruin2/4 anyway so you can run around a bit

scenic patrol Apr 11, 2018, 3:10 AM

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!whologs @scenic patrol

storm frostBOT Apr 11, 2018, 3:10 AM

#

Johni Bravo of Odin

FFLogs Data (Damage)

**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Warrior: (2185/10405) [3868.72 DPS] [79.9 Historical] [7:56]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Warrior: (2455/9822) [4340.47 DPS] [76.3 Historical] [9:04]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Warrior: (909/6993) [4308.63 DPS] [88.0 Historical] [11:27]

scenic patrol Apr 11, 2018, 3:10 AM

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All purple

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😌

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 3:13 AM

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nice Johni

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i have a grey pld parse now

wet stag Apr 11, 2018, 3:14 AM

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Or you can do what I do

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Orange/purple/blue

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Averages to purpls

scenic patrol Apr 11, 2018, 3:16 AM

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Seen Kefka enrage 3 times

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Now to do a no death run

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Thursday

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 3:17 AM

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good luck !

scenic patrol Apr 11, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Fun fight

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 3:17 AM

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the tips on 2nd blizzard and thunder is

scenic patrol Apr 11, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Growed on me

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 3:17 AM

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it will always same as previous one he casted

scenic patrol Apr 11, 2018, 3:17 AM

#

I know

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 3:17 AM

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so you can stands in safe spot earlier

#

ah

scenic patrol Apr 11, 2018, 3:17 AM

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I have seen the last Graven

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 3:17 AM

#

i saw many players messed up that part

scenic patrol Apr 11, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Eh, Graven mechanics are more annoying

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 3:18 AM

#

was it?

#

it's full downtime right?

scenic patrol Apr 11, 2018, 3:23 AM

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Yeah, but some mechanics straight up kill you if you fail

#

Like gravitas bleeds

woeful prawn Apr 11, 2018, 3:31 AM

#

the puddles are safe to walk into as soon as the half of the arena lights up

scenic patrol Apr 11, 2018, 3:43 AM

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no, I usually die while trying to get to Kefka for Aero assault

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 3:45 AM

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it's 3 second server tick ><

#

for example, if someone else placing too close to yours

📎 unknown.png

#

can walk like this haha

lament dawn Apr 11, 2018, 3:48 AM

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Giggity

scenic patrol Apr 11, 2018, 3:49 AM

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I am on the right side usually

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Using box strat

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And boss is top

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So I need to move towards the boss while avoiding my puddle

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 4:57 AM

#

hmm, is no dupes an expected assumption for o5s weekly parties if the job slots aren't locked, or only if it specifically claims so in the pf description?

#

i'm not sure if i'm supposed to join a pf that has an rdm already even if it doesn't specify

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 4:58 AM

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join in and ask

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it will slower the LB build tho

#

but i guess it doesn't matter for o5s

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 4:59 AM

#

also hrm do i start another lakshmi group or do i suck it up and tank the one that's 6/8 missing both tanks lol

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i get grumpy lately when i have to tank shit when i wanted to rdm it

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 5:00 AM

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idk

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that's up to you

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 5:01 AM

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500k hp left on kefaust T_T

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 5:01 AM

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oh...that's pretty close....

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 5:01 AM

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there's part of me lately that gets the impression that having parallel groups for older content is bad karma somehow

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 5:01 AM

#

hit harder

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 5:01 AM

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I'm too busy running away from boss to assize so I don't dps /s

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 5:01 AM

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it's probably not a fully logical thought, but in such cases it seems invariably one group is chill and awesome and the other is salt city

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by which I do not mean the place in Utah, mind you. Salt LAKE City is a super chill and friendly place.

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 5:02 AM

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i can't tell which group is it

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it's varies on data center and players

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 5:02 AM

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eh. you can't tell which group is the good one until you join it

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I have shitty luck, so usually it's the other group that's good and the one I end up in that's salty

desert trench Apr 11, 2018, 5:03 AM

#

paissapeek

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 5:03 AM

#

paissasquint

#

emiin, that paissa wall emoji

#

the creator say no

desert trench Apr 11, 2018, 5:03 AM

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blobclamp

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 5:03 AM

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that's why we removed it

desert trench Apr 11, 2018, 5:03 AM

#

clampblob

hybrid rapids Apr 11, 2018, 5:04 AM

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your avatar is still disgusting but cute

desert trench Apr 11, 2018, 5:04 AM

#

elsenorroite

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 5:06 AM

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chance rises to near 100%, if a friend is in the other group for whatever it is

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invariably they've got the good group and mine will be salt in such cases lol

wet stag Apr 11, 2018, 5:08 AM

#

paissapeek

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Usually people care about more pt buffs

#

Than lb gen

#

If it's something like double healer you're going to ask some questions

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 5:43 AM

#

also seriously is even post-midnight tuesday night too late for a good weekly group anymore?

#

did i need to stay up till 3am last night instead?

#

mind you, this is my first week of having any weekly runs for sigma savage

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 5:45 AM

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nope

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too late is more like monday

pure yoke Apr 11, 2018, 5:50 AM

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you need to be up for prime time

#

there seems to be plenty of 2 chest parties on pf atm

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 5:52 AM

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so pretty much, morning and late night groups are garbo?

#

better even to wait till thursday seeing that I work tomorrow also?

pure yoke Apr 11, 2018, 5:53 AM

#

you just have to be patient

#

but it does fill

#

even at weird times

#

just do it early in the week

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 5:54 AM

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yeah, I got a group that filled and it wiped like 6-7 times

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 5:54 AM

#

you're not always confirmed to get a good group

#

that being said, when I was pugging my weeklies 3-5 wipes for 5s and 6s clears were the norm

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 5:54 AM

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I've been generally told that once you get duty complete you generally get good weekly groups on tuesdays

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yeah this healer kept failing mechs apparently too

pure yoke Apr 11, 2018, 5:55 AM

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it's still a roll of the dice

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 5:55 AM

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i don't know what it is about healers and failed mechs

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but it seems like they're the ones that mess them up the most

pure yoke Apr 11, 2018, 5:55 AM

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you also have to consider that players generally check the fflogs of the party leader as a clue

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whether it's accurate or not

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 5:56 AM

#

I never did that 👀

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 5:56 AM

#

like I'll never forget that Titan HM where the one healer sailed off the side 3 pulls in a row (I was MT, and the main reason there were three pulls was because of that fact, LOL)

#

people do?

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i look for "is it 2 chest weekly duty complete?" "is there room for a RDM?" "is the ilvl requirement higher than 353?"

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if yes, yes, and no, in i go

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also this is only the second such group i've joined this tier since clearing 5, and both leaders were healers so fflogsing probably isn't all that useful anyway

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i'm pretty sure healer fflogs are too dependent on how well the others in the group were doing

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 5:58 AM

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I mean yeah, if your party isn't fuckin up mechanics of course they're gonna have better dps

quaint hill Apr 11, 2018, 5:59 AM

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how do ppl know wat corner ultros is gonna spawn in o7s

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 6:00 AM

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depends on which comes first

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:00 AM

#

I cleared first two fights last week at Friday at 7pm pst

#

So....

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 6:00 AM

#

and 2nd ultros will spawn at the opposite corner

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:00 AM

#

Tuesday is defintely not too late for weeklies

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 6:00 AM

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so if it spawns at NE, next spawn is SW

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spawns at SE, next spawn is NW

quaint hill Apr 11, 2018, 6:01 AM

#

kool nvr knew that

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:01 AM

#

there seems fewer groups tonight than it seems like there should be

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 6:01 AM

#

it's just late

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2am for east coast rn

quaint hill Apr 11, 2018, 6:02 AM

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so then using ur example, how would u know 1st ultros is gonna spawn ne

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:02 AM

#

There was like, 27 o5s parties

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Like 3 hours ago

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 6:03 AM

#

https://i.imgur.com/LA03wDy.png

Imgur

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daddyluma first NE/SW

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biblio first SE/NW

quaint hill Apr 11, 2018, 6:04 AM

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oo its based on wat program he uses 1st...

#

interesting ty

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:05 AM

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Son of a bitch that's a lot of fucking mechs

pure yoke Apr 11, 2018, 6:05 AM

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it doesn't happen all at once

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:20 AM

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@quaint hill if its ultros load 1st he will spawn at NE then at SW / if its airforce load 1st he will spawn at SE then at NE

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nvm too late answer

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@steep iris you dont belong here honest healer only tainted healers here

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GWqlabsYaoLUL

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:21 AM

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O O F

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 6:25 AM

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but

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it takes a lot of effort to respect content

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:29 AM

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you just dont respect it

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GWqlabsYaoLUL

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:35 AM

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also are the good groups for o5s now mostly the ones that ask for 6 and/or 7 too and the ones that are just 5 aren't so great anymore?

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:36 AM

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mostly just o6s

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o7s is a shitshow

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the general rule is

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if it's a weekly they'll ask for o5s and o6s

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o7s weekly as well is usually reserved for static

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most of them that can clear o5s can generally clear o6s with no problem

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to answer your question, yes generally

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however some that are just doing o5s may just be doing it because of time reasons

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although that's generally rare

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good groups more so run all they can at reset than later in the week

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:41 AM

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so pretty much if I work Monday and Tuesday evening I either have to stay up till 3AM, take another 0-1 chest Learning Party for 5 even though I've cleared as my weekly, or join a 5/6 even though I haven't even touched 6?

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a tuesday night just-5 group probably will be a waste of my evening, like these two have been so far?

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:42 AM

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the longer you wait the more you gamble

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:42 AM

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i do find ppl looking for 2 chests in weekends

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:42 AM

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log scum peope

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:42 AM

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and it fill up

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:43 AM

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i've cleared on saturdays before

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i legit had a group that almost single pull killed both o5s and o6s

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:43 AM

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but ... pretty much better to join a o5s/o6s group even when you haven't cleared 6?

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:43 AM

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ask first if it's okay to leave

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:43 AM

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unless you have tuesday evening off or can stay awake till 3am on monday?

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:43 AM

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after the o5s

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:43 AM

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6 doesn't look too hard to fake your way through anyways lol

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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o6s is o1s

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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it really isn't

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but people are gonna be like

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"wtf you haven't cleared"

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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you can easily clear it as long u know your rot

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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someone hasn't cleared

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the time I cleared O1S for the first time I joined a 2 chest weekly group for it

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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which 70% of ppl dont

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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no one was able to figure out who hadn't cleared

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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like the 1800 dps pld i had

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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you can easily tell who hasn't cleared

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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actually, the people who were erring were the ones who had cleared LOL

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as far as anyone could tell, I was the real deal

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I walked the walk

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:45 AM

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most people have gear from o6s from a weekly

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or look up logs

lusty oak Apr 11, 2018, 6:45 AM

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just accept that u will never get a fucking drop in savage and go for book parties

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:45 AM

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^

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that's also totally an option

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i mega pig luckered this tier though

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:46 AM

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@lusty oak not everyone is as unlucky as you

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GWqlabsYaoLUL

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:46 AM

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i got 4 peices of 370 in 4 weeks

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:46 AM

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hmm, can I actually hope to fill if I start one myself, with only one clear and a bad parse (since it was also my first time in for more than 15s pretty much)?

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:46 AM

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oh btw

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:46 AM

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or are people not going to join such a group?

heavy mist Apr 11, 2018, 6:46 AM

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i got 0 in 4 weeks

lusty oak Apr 11, 2018, 6:46 AM

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@boreal edge i got body in first kill haha

heavy mist Apr 11, 2018, 6:46 AM

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its okay

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/pet

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:47 AM

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we lost one chest in o6s because our drg dced be4 killing it

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GWqlabsYaoLUL

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:47 AM

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most people look up logs

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of the leader at least

lusty oak Apr 11, 2018, 6:47 AM

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but yday was a shitshow, i saw aiming ring and helmet that i bought with books in prior weeks

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:48 AM

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im bis til i kill o8s for now

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tasty 2500 crit

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:48 AM

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I mean you could try hosting

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and see if it fills

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if you play MT in o6s though

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hooly shit

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so fucking free

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:49 AM

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depends, do they look up logs if there's only 1-2 groups even up?

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or only to decide between multiples?

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:49 AM

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yes

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it takes you legit

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20 seconds

pure yoke Apr 11, 2018, 6:49 AM

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you know

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:49 AM

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to look up everyone in the party

pure yoke Apr 11, 2018, 6:49 AM

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I really only look at logs

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if they are like

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"GOOD DPS OR KICK"

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:50 AM

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basically, should I hope anymore for 2 chests this week?

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or not till next 2 weeks when I can catch my buddies with their 5/8 static?

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:50 AM

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if you do it tommorow

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you could 2 chest and reasonably expect to clear

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:51 AM

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@pure yoke how about rdm saying good dps and he dies in every kill and parse grey?

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:51 AM

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so pretty much if you have a bad parse, don't expect people to join you even if there are no other groups?

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they'll pass the night altogether instead?

pure yoke Apr 11, 2018, 6:52 AM

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no

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:52 AM

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fflogs isnt used as much as ppl exagerrate here

pure yoke Apr 11, 2018, 6:52 AM

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I mean if they have requirements

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higher than themselves

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:52 AM

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also, l2 cherrypick logs or suffer?

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:52 AM

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i can safely tell you

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:53 AM

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i'll note that people don't do the same in WoW, I'm not sure why FF treats it so much more like a business

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:53 AM

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80% of ppl killed o5s and o6s dont have logs

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:53 AM

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I mean people check wowlogs but not as stringently

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also generally speaking wow players upload every run religiously regardless of how good or bad, while here there seems a much more active effort to pad resumes

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:54 AM

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i dunno... i've forgotten to turn act on for like 3 of my o5s kills

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and they still show up

pure yoke Apr 11, 2018, 6:54 AM

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means

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someone uploaded

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:54 AM

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so i think it's maybe a little less than 50%

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yeah, and 7 people in a run

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besides you

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chances are pretty high SOMEONE is going to upload a log

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:55 AM

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not really

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:55 AM

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tbh, my requirements are generally just "can clear the damned instance"

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I could hardly care less about if it's a speed run or a parse run or a people on speed run

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just CLEAR THE BLOODY INSTANCE

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:56 AM

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i mean it's your first clear

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:56 AM

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second.

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first attempt at doing an actual 2 chest weekly.

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but last week was my first clear, and since i didn't have to go learning party and then clear party, I cleared with a 9 parse (the other person whose first clear it was is also grey)

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:57 AM

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how the fuck

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did you get a 9 on a clear

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 6:57 AM

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should I be writing off 2 chests the 2nd week too as a resume padder before trying to do proper weeklies?

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:57 AM

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what were your two parses

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is there improvement?

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:58 AM

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its still 1st day on reset while most decent ppl already cleared for the week but you gonna still find ppl

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:58 AM

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i mean for fuck sake i legit two chest cleared last week on a fucking friday

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:58 AM

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2 chests in weekend

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i saw it happen

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:59 AM

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i've had it happen to me too

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as you parse higher it's easier to carry

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particuarlly o5s

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 6:59 AM

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monday 2 chests is a meme tho

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 6:59 AM

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oh yeah 100%

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monday is way too fucking alte

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not even worth your time even if you had nothing else to do

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 7:00 AM

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if u didnt clear til monday

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might as well get token better than nothing

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:01 AM

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parse runs on a monday though....

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 7:01 AM

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hope i400 aiming chest have retarded stats

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:01 AM

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i've seen some stupid SHIT.

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MONDAY PRASE RUNS.

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Tops the fucking cake

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i already know that party is probably trap

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 7:02 AM

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tbh

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trap parties are more successful than actual clear

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those who say TRAP party

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:03 AM

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i mean at least for o5s

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:03 AM

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I haven't had my second clear yet, so I don't know how it's going to parse

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I've had two hours of 2-chest weekly parties that have been all wipes

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:04 AM

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oh you made it sound like you had two parses

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:04 AM

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from people failing mechs, not from enrage

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:04 AM

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what class

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:04 AM

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only once was "do we have the dps" even asked lol

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RDM

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:04 AM

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and you parse 9%?

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:04 AM

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on my very first clear, where I was still getting used to mechs?

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like I said, I didn't have the usual learning into clear party cycle there

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:04 AM

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casters can coast in o5s

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:05 AM

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so the clear showed the parse effects of a learning party

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:05 AM

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what are you parsing

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:05 AM

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I'm guessing you should actually make a point not to clear on your learning parties?

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:05 AM

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in your runst hat you wipe

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:05 AM

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because you need that parse, parse is everything in FF?

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it seems like that is the generally adopted attitude in savage

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it was never like that in WoW, not even that much in Deltascape

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but this tier, it's like "you are not a player, you are a set of fflogs"

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:06 AM

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right so you learned the fight and cleared

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what are you parsing now?

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o5s is a back ended fight

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the longer it goes on the more mechs happen

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the more dps you do, the less chance you have to wiping to mechs

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:07 AM

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yeah I've noticed my DPS drops over the course of the fight

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when I looked it started out at 7k+ on the opener and then dropped to 3.5 on dragged-on pulls

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which were full of deaths by party members though

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it seems more we're getting people that can't handle mechs, we haven't even got as far as enrage

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:08 AM

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4.5k

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:08 AM

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but what, I'm supposed to be hc enough now that on week 2 I show the parse of someone who's cleared 9-10x?

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:08 AM

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is a 50 percentile

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:08 AM

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(my week 2, anyways)

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:09 AM

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okay okay

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25% is 4k flat

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4,091.56

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you should be using those numbers to make sure you're doing proper dps

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:09 AM

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... I'm guessing that's why elitists don't want people getting into Savage late too though, they want to have duty complete expect multiple clears with improving parses over the time?

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and people like me getting in week 9-10 without having come close to perfecting things are ... exactly what they're trying to get in and get out ahead of :/

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:10 AM

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besides you're RDM, if people fuck up to mechs you have a res

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:11 AM

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"we have it cleared and farmed before you townies get past the first mechanic" was what one famous elitist on gamefaqs put it

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whatever the fuck townies are, I've only seen that term used in Mafia

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 7:13 AM

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gamefaqs?

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is that site still alive?

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last time i used it was in 2003

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:13 AM

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yup

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there's this one guy called benjjjamin there who's a notorious elitist

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hates people getting into minstrel's ballad or savage late

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thinks people who don't parse purple should quit, pretty much

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(never mind that people only parse purple because of the 75% of players below them, natch LOL)

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like lol can you imagine if only the top 10% of raiders raided anymore, oh that 90% parse from last tier, that's a grey now enjoy the feels xD

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:15 AM

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...?

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 7:15 AM

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well there will be always grey peeps

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:15 AM

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well, it's a percentile, so if everyone who didn't parse 90%+ stopped raiding, the current 90% would be 1%

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 7:15 AM

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even if all do average performance

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at least

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:18 AM

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in any case, it seems like ff folks are a lot more fixated on parses than wow ones

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i'm not sure if that's true, or why

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I'm guessing the Legion legendaries are a chief reason for the skew

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 7:19 AM

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thats not true

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wow relied on dps checks more than ffxiv do

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:20 AM

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that's why I say legion affected it

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legion has the legendaries which are heavily luck based, really purely luck based

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so content has to be clearable without bis legos but they heavily affect percentile

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 7:20 AM

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the problem is

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ffxiv does poor job teaching you how to play your job

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:23 AM

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the thing is even with that

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it's kinda implied in most mmos the meta way to play is probably not the way you've been playing before cap

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so what do you do, especially for a big game like this?

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 7:24 AM

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not for whm

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:25 AM

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look up guides

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 7:25 AM

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stones all day

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oh shit i mean

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cures all day

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:25 AM

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cure 3 is the best skill

stable basin Apr 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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yay another WAR failed the cheese

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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it's not even that great for WAR to do cheese

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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just do it the normal way

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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^

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imo WAR cheese is only reliable in statics

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WAR cheese is so much faith on that WAR who's a pug

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 7:27 AM

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never got a war to cheese in pugs anyway

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:27 AM

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in a words of a wise man

steep iris Apr 11, 2018, 7:27 AM

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First time i experienced the cheese was my static

paper torrent Apr 11, 2018, 7:27 AM

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"THIS WARRIOR CAN'T EVEN PRESS A CD, DO YOU THINK HE CAN CHEESE?"

boreal edge Apr 11, 2018, 7:27 AM

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@paper torrent war cheese is dps loss