#endgame-lounge
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IR decimate bless
DRK still feels better at dungeons
That's real nice
why wouldn't you?
implying that i'm not going to rampart anyway
WHM+DRK = Troll the DRK by spamming holy when they use Blood Price.
But drk is more consistently fun
if no whm anyway

My favorite
I got trolled by it so many fucking times
unless it's like the last pull of hell's lid RI+awareness+Ramp is like, no damage anyway

more like troll the drk when they use TBN
In the one year I played DRK
when i see tbn fall off without getting blood
Since it's 7 seconds now
i want to cry
me too
5 sec TBN was the worst idea
Tbn is priority tho
@torn kindle i pray i never get you in Expert
Blood Price Holy spam is still the worst
you know how to hurt me
It's ok now imo
Yeah, Blood Price currently is quite shit
ignoring the blood gain and only focusing on mp loss
blood price right now is better for blood than it is mp
Blood Price gives you Blood as long as you are in combat
I would fucking love to have a holy spamming whm when I'm drk in dungeons
yeah i get ones that spam cure 3 when i'm the only one taking damage
Because it means I can more safely drop grit and bw quietus
feelsgood
So you open with Grit BP on O6S
Wasn't meant as a question
Oh lol mb
imagine if DS still leeched mp in sb
and you forgot to take it off before byakko transition.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Sorry I torture DRKs so much, I don't get them that often in dungeons and I don't adjust for them
well
it auto turns off at 0 mp
so you still end up regening some mp back
depending on how much you emptied it
I don't miss old DS
i don't think anyone does
maybe just scourge.
Having a 30s gcd dot is stupid
Because it doesn't flow with the rotation
It's a speed bump
On a highway
Scourge animation? Sure
But they removed it for a reason: button bloat
Dots are just button bloat if your kit isn't designed around them
I'm sincerely hoping they get rid of goring blade next expansion
Add New and Interesting Mechanics™ 
Get rid of Ruin it's not a DoT 
👍
Aletin and Emiin looking through logs for damage taken comparisons
Most DRKs are just plain bad

!faq drkguide
spread the love
It's a good guide
can you send tell to all average or below DRK
this guide?
so overall DRK community improve
emiin will be happy too
@desert trench thanks again for the guide ❤ and i'm sorry to hear what happened on your PUGs
100% is too far away

tsun pls purge this mans comments

how much HP do i want for kefka prog?
200
what job?

im an RDM
kefka savage?
ignore that loli face char said
i would go 43k
for kefka god
kefka is possible with 40k
how do i convince my static dps that guardian missles are not, in fact, tasty treats to consume with their face?
emiin's pug streams broke my heart
kefka god that forsaken is pain in the ass
FUCKING OT
and won't hurt to have extra on progression

i got 41k with right side VIT melds
the only item i have under 360 is my chest piece because anemos and melds
nah, come to EU
that's fine for kefka
not with buffs
I'll show you my big dick Monk DPS
again, that's a disgusting but cute avatar
ur cute
white means pure

oh Tsun
Yakuza 0
The less color your parse number has = the more you respect the content.
oh...i don't like that
I love it
did you bought the omae mou shindeiru?
?
Hokuto Ga Gotoku lol
I think I can outdps most pugs once I have the opener down
i'd hope so
I remember Creator
no, learn in savage
I didn't start Creator until I could do a12s dummy
I never bothered with SSS actually
i only ever both with SSS if i'm too lazy to wait for CDs
otherwise i just use a dummy
can confirm
I have so many hours spent dummy parsing
bought a stirking dummy for my house
before a mailbox
#raiderlyfe
(with seals, obviously.)
I need to buy a level 1 dummy and buy a small house
faust striking dummy 😍
how is housing on odin anyway
I dunno
housing is basically free
didn't research it too much
so many open spots still
everyone in my fc has a personal house in the same ward as our fc house just because no one was buying them
Dravarian Hinterlands is a good dummy to use
wait you are on Odin?
cool
!whoami
don't recognize the FC name, but then again I haven't been on Odin for long
!whoami
TFW johni still has a better ilevel than me
i'm one piece away from bis feelsbad
no shit, I have got one weave
!whoami
um
!whoami
that's not my warrior
wow
I am 2 weaves away and diamond weapon away from BiS
the calculation 
wasn't eanae saying something about that
well, back to practicing Monk
like weapons were being counted twice or something
try to info eanae in #419582364025487361 ?
tfw my bis isn't gonna be 370
hmm?
penta crafted belt for 2.48 gcd build
oh, you don't have to force yourself
mch is slowboye...
if you have a fast gcd on mch you're shooting yourself in the foot
nah i'm FASTBOYE on drk and war
i was about to say
-1 +3 THAT'S 4 QUICK MATHS
yeah
let me check my friend's mch bis
same
with
him
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QbdtmwPlmVV2r2SFW0qLwvxtLQQwYhMyAMcb05fs4Ro/edit?usp=sharing here's the sim for it
overall it depends what you're comfortable playing at but crafted belt is "better"
did you summoned chocobo?
can't do that in housing
not even sure if chocobro gives you procs, do chocobos have weaponskills?
well, time to see how I do in raids
good luck
Kefka NM here I go
inb4 areo knocked off
idk we did o7s on the second pull atleast
didnt have to run it 20 times to see a clear
so atleast that was good
sometimes i wonder if i would pay the time of doing 5-6 more tries
to get an item at the end
or just clear in 2 pulls and walk away
with absolute fuck shit all
and then i remeber i'm a student
so i say fuck shit all
silver lining i guess, pages still exist
people all over the place suggest 370 weapon is hands down better than 355, but i think that isn't the case for SCH unless i'm looking at something funny
pretty sure 200 substats don't make up for the missing wd/mnd
Weapon Damage and main stat are the most important stats
I didn't use that
but this from the balance
From the sch pins
oh thanks i'll take a look
Byakko to Tome isn't worth it for SCH unless you can upgrade to 370 immediately
+3 WD and +23 MND isn't anything to sneeze at, plus the extra VIT
did i do this right?
i've been passing on the roborants because i figured the book was pretty bad
if you only want to know which book is better
well... i guess it's ok for the 300 piety? so then i can prob use 350 pants instead of the 370 ones
my team not there yet :<
soon tm for me!
how far have y'all gotten? What's the hold up?
we just got to gkekfa last week
i joined them on like... week 4 or something?
for fresh prog at 5
started late, I see
and then after clearing 7, the other healer left
_>
so we didn't do any kekfa for like 4 weeks
we got a new one last week, so this next week will be our first "normal" week for a while haha
I mean, you can always grab a sub in pf unless you raid at ass o'clock
true! i really don't like healer pugs though, because it's usually hard to coordinate heals
and then i have to use gcd healing and ehh
_> If you think you're gonna get through God Kefka without GCD healing I've got some really bad news for you
erm no...
indom > succor
should check cast
yeah the whole fight is suffering
for the overall picture
also we haven't optimized yet, still overcompensating
succor is because
is better than spending 1 aetherflow for soil
aetherflow is better on raw healing
like indom and excog
throws excog at tank during Tb
it's 15 succor + 3 et succor
from my measly 10 mins or w/e of gkekfa experience it looks like i'll need to put out a succ after almost every raidwide
I use Sacred cause damage can be touchy during 2nd Forsaken
i really wonder how much more interesting sch would be if
sacred soil didn't use aetherflow
and had like a 90s+ cd or something
and sometimes Light of Judgement because fuck that spell
Sacred is OP
10% flat reduction w/ 30s cd for the cost of an aetherflow stack
!action Sacred Soil
Creates a designated area in which party members will only suffer 90% of all damage inflicted.
Duration: 15s
Additional Effect: 20% chance that next Succor will cost no MP
Duration: 15s Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 10 Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1
Cannot be used with any other area-creating actions.
how much piety are you guys running for gkekfa?
A little more than what I need
pretty sure our healers had max piety melds for prog
I'm dangerously close to OOM around 2:50 or so
but that was like 10 weeks ago so idk
first week yes
now people running minimum
like 1 or 2 raise literally kill your MP
but it's not crippling
yeah any raises and I'm decent fucked
thats just asking to not clear
true
low PIE is for optimizing
if progressing PIE is important to recovering from mistakes
my gkekfa setup will be around 1200 piety
think it should be enough, i've heard 1k is usually the baseline or so
will tone it down later as my group gets more comfortable with the fight
My chosen BiS set will drop me just shy of 1k piety
that sounds about right
i think i need to adjust my set a bit
or... i need to get that diamond codex
because my dps focused set has like 500 piety and i run out even during o6
even with the free mana refresh
and minimal gcd healing
I'm trying to get to that point, but my co is still kinda new to AST and I have to compensate
yea, ideally shouldn't need any
Crap this is a bit high level, I better dumb it down for people trying to do endgame stuff
Ahem
HEAL THE PARTY
DODGE THINGS
DPS INBETWEEN THE TWO ABOVE ITEMS
Instructions unclear
CONGRATS YOU'RE NOW 50TH PERCENTILE
I put eos on sic

there is one place where i think thats acceptable
eureka
while afking
to make it look like you're doing stuff
Can't have eos heal if everyone wiped tp raid wides
speaking of eureka, here's a quality macro
to be "useful" as you sit in trains afk
Totally not stealing this
Same
you can't prove anything
I'm going to add a .01 sec
decimals don't work on wait.x commands
And put a trade mark on it
whole numbers only
How do you HQ the 6377 Difficulty Crafts? I have simulated the craft with my old Waste Not rotation, but it barely make a dent on HQ percent bar.
depends on your stats, but you might have to do a maker's mark rotation if they're not great
MaMa Hell
and you'll have to start with at least some hq materials
But how do you even get 462CP? I only have 395CP.
overmelding
Having the best gear isn't enough. You'll need to overmeld and have appropriate food for the highest level crafts
basically, for endgame crafts you want to get to as close as max cp as possible
finally got my ala mhigan gear but im slowly working on the overmeld x_x
if you can afford it, cheating and buying yourself an ala mhigan chest helps a lot to get the other pieces started
I wish there's a medicine that allows you to boost your overmeld chance 
i have a medicine that makes overmelding less painful, it's called alcohol
you just turn off the sound and watch the pretty lights..
some i know has ptsd from the overmeld fail noise lol
Well, the overmeld success rate for 5th slot is like 5% or less...
at least your materia is relatively cheap 
True
oh that reminds me, i should start hoarding it now while it's "cheap"
mia can you send me some of those cheap jp materias?
even control vi is only 180k noice
giimmee
xD
brb xferring to Atomos
I prefer crit>det> (kill me) piety
can check to see how close you are to the next ss tier
probably worth it if you're close
so which materia can i safely transmute into other materia?
basically which materia is worthless right now?
besides the elemental ones
I do most of the main stat materia but STR VI and VIT VI depending on prices
Skillspeed is really bad
I also do Tenacity/Piety/SkS/SpS depending on prices.
TL;DR: anything but Red
Some of the gathering materia can be fairly cheap too, but crafting is usually too expensive to transmute.
some sam builds meld sks
Bis doesnt include piety only prog god does if preferred by said healer
so yea yellows shit
I mean healer gear comes with a lot of piety that's hard to avoid
!item diamond cane
I swear
oh nice high crit
Nah
Thats bis
For sch cause the other one is trash
Beyond trash
I use my anemos over the tome codex kind of trash
Ast has crit and det iirc
!item genji cane
Oof
Whm mains on suicide watch
i like spellspeed whm
!item lost allagan cane
is whm the best healer?
that's too general
WHM is strongest in raw healing compared to SCH/AST
also strongest personal DPS
but that doesn't make it best healer
all 3 healers have their pros and cons
for example strongest in raw healing = more enmity generated
and might grab main tank's enmity instead
strongest in personal DPS doesn't means contribute more raid DPS
Tanks generally don't worry about healer aggro
I'm usually more worried about that fucking blm parsing 5i
so much healing in that fight
whms are king of stupid enmity generation
it gets better but during prog sometimes it's sweaty
started Kefka prog, WHM already had some spicy enmity climbs on Faust
also we just kicked our Summoner and replaced him with a healer, one of the healers is now SMN instead, he is parsing the same as our old SMN
I'm worried about a BLM parsing 6k too, that's a little low
while having lower ilvl
AST has the emnity reduction from the sects and earthly doesn't generate enmity, SCH has the fairy that generates emnity for itself and whm has basically nothing
medica iis prepull tanks????
TFW 6k BLM sounds high, but I haven't played for like half a year
6k BLM is like, decent-ish maybe
not anything notably new
!fflogs o8s
holis cube padding too hard, screwing up all stars bad
blm is crazy
holis is mediocre BLM getting fed 90% balance
they had like 1400 dps from outside sources in that god kefka run
sounds pretty crazy
I beat my pb for Kefka and Godka today
nice
I need to start to work on beating some of my other parses
I think we might start running AST so that should help
!whologs @pure yoke
Dragoon: (17/7627) [6539.07 DPS] [99.7 Historical] [5:55]
Dragoon: (6/7394) [7022.5 DPS] [99.8 Historical] [6:37]
Dragoon: (31/5156) [6029.11 DPS] [99.6 Historical] [8:36]
Dragoon: (4/3874) [5968.39 DPS] [100 Historical] [5:50]
Dragoon: (17/2657) [6426.82 DPS] [99.3 Historical] [8:34]
BLM all stars are just so bad
F4 potency buff, and Thundercloud proc length was extended
!!
F4 back to the old one?
i think they reduced F4 potency for 20 or something
since 4.0
they reduced it like 40 I think? And now raised it back up by 20
something like that
Yoshi p said it's fine that blm and sam are worse than other jobs in raids because they're good in solo and other content so don't expect those jobs to ever be on the level of other jobs in raids
they're good in solo?
which is weird since besides quests there's no content that encourage or at least solo playing friendly
nice joke
if BLM and SAM are good at soloing why don't they reach floor 200 POTD soloing easily
OOF
I would prefer if balance was based on raids but this is the direction YoshiP wants to take
At least this isn't tera
where Slayer was legit a meme class as bad as HW PLD
and their damage came from fucking glitches that you had almost zero power to reproduce
Tera didn't really have a highly challenging endgame, was more about the grind
And dont say manaya hm that thing had 1 mechanic and was easy with 3 people
I heard TERA had some challenging raids
and had stuff like ummm
"You do more damage but it makes the boss permanently in enrage mode"
Maybe added years after release idk
fresh 70 brd, if you get straighter shot proc and straight shot is gone/wearing out, do you refulgent anyway or use it on the straight shot?
refulgent
The real answer is to plan your gcds better
Nah but seriously yeah reflugent is better
mk thats what i figured
i feel like im going to be the greyest brd ever
soooo many buttons
if you smash your head into the gauges and know by instinct where your song prioerty is you'll generally be fine
also smashing that motherfucking bloodletter button when it comes up
and 2 sack PP
2 stack PP only in heavy crit comps (drg/sch/potentially ast with spear)
And only when crit buffs are up
or in AoE situation when u have dots up on 3+ mobs
pp is...
ah
31 pages 👀
brd guide 
press all button

!myglamour
Don't let anyone lie to you, glamour is the true end game

BRD is literally just press whatever buttons come up
But the guide tells what to press first instead of just blindly pushing buttons
Knowing how to do an opener and maintain a rotation puts you at blue most of the time
A question about dots
Mainly for o7s prey
If say I use intervention on prey target, will they receive less dmg per tick?
Or only for the duration of intervention?
they receive less damage on all ticks
if you intervention them before they get hit
it snapshots it
on the other hand, if you intervention after he gets hit, it does nothing
not even for the dot
so it's all or nothing
Mitigation must be applied before the effect occurs
Ahhh, I see
This is true for all DoTs
anyone have a gif of the different forsaken for god kefka?
im not sure how to go about asking but whats the comparison between eureka gear and 360 mendacity gear
or i guess is there a huge difference between the two sets
360 is better 80% of the time
What's the 20%?
exceptions
lawl
Tank gloves for one
The Ryumyaku Gauntlets of Fending are a trash fire
Sks Ten dear twelve WHY
I guess ill begin my question here
tenacity is garbage regardless of which tank u are on... except drk. b/c drk is trash
wow rude
!whois @wheat helm

hi tiff
from earlier
there’s probably a decent case to be made for the i355 SCH Byakko tome vs the 360 one
What about the Anemos SCH weapon and melding 200 crit on it vs Byakko?
is there a trick to alligning jump with gerskogul?
or do i need to delay one of them
Is this guide still good for getting started at endgame? https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/77lzdl/guide_41_endgame_progression_for_fresh_70s/?st=jfp9rdhp&sh=3758526a
Kinda sorta, I can give some quick edits here
First off, you wanna unlock all your endgames dungeons, which means you need to do some side quests and catch up on the MSQ
Next you're gonna want to increase your item level. Item level currently soft caps at 350, but requires lots of gil
Hard cap is 360 if you don't do savage, 370 if you do
easiest method is to unlock your dungeons for roulettes, unlock Rabanastre for even more tomes and the item you'll need to trade for gear upgrades from 330 to 340
to get a 340 weapon, you'll need to do Deltascape V4.0 7 times to get the items needed to trade for the weapon tome, have 1000 creation tomes to trade for the tokens for the weapon, and a coin from Rabanastre to trade for the upgrade
once your item level is at the minimum, you can start doing Sigmascape, which I would do as soon as you can to start collecting weekly items for 350 gear
Are there lockouts on delta/sigma
no lockouts, but you can only collect one drop a week from Sigma
resets are Tuesday
yes, 7 weeks of Sigma V4 to get your 360 weapon
Once you're 340 or really close to it (must have 340 weapon), learn and clear Byakko EX until you get your 355 weapon. You can use your 350 relic if you want, but Byakko EX is basically a warm-up for actual endgame stuff
and if you fail super hard at Byakko EX, you need to get good or Savage will eat you alive, along with you being a burden to the party
Okay alot more grinding then i thought
you can always claim your relic gear from Eureka to armor up if you have the patience
it might even be better, since the Anemos gear has 5 materia slots
Can i farm Eureka as a fresh 70?
yes
it's a grind tho
once you beat Byakko EX and are a bit higher than 340, you're geared enough for Savage
Aye
If you're a healer or dps, meld your entire right side with VIT VI
But Eureka will probably be the fastest way to gear up
It's slow at first but once you are done you are more than savage ready
Anemos gear is really good
some other tips for getting into Savage
First tip of getting into savage
Tanking: get used to provoking, shirking the other tank, and being out of tank stance
HIT A FUCKING DUMMY!
Healing: time spent not healing should have dots and rocks flying
Practice your rotation at least 5 mins a day on a dummy until it becomes second nature
You don't really need vit melds this tier
Cannot stress this enough
DPS: for the love of god, learn how to do a fucking opener and rotation and do it under stress
Well drg might need it for light of judgement
VIT melds for prog, take em off when you've beaten the tier or as you gear
I take mine off as I gear
Thz a bunch
I didn't use any and cleared in ~i347
👏 good for you
can change a lethal hit to an almost lethal hit
Less chance of getting one shot by AOE
They were in sigma and Alex if you were around min ilvl
Raid wides just not as punishing
Drg seems to just have a weird case of having b4b line up with light of judgement
_> O6S will fuck you up if your healers take a nap, Demonic Howl ain't no joke
Had a lot of deaths when we were trying for parse runs
"oh yeah, healing"
"that thing I do"
"occasionally"
Saved my DRG so many with SiO
So eurka goes to 350?
Left side only?
So meld DH to everything?
tanks are dumb
those penta accessories
your BiS right side
I want to go into savage
is all crafted pentamelds
With a STR VI on top, then a overmelded DH VI, then overmelded DH Vs
on all of them
dont even know what pentameld is 😦
you get a metric fuckton of materia and go visit a crafter friend
Well i do like games with things to chase.
this thing here can cost you 1 million gil alone
to pentamelds crafted gear
you're still gonna spend gil like water to finish these accessories
you need to chance it
first one is guranteed
second is 17% VI meld
10%
7%
5% last one
3rd to 5 melds are V materias
If it fails can i just try again?
yes
and the materia is destroyed in the process
could be worse, in 1.0 failing a meld destroyed the item
So i think my goal is grind for Eureka gear.
Eureka doesn’t have accessories
yes
can't equip anything else
Ah so cant use dps gear 😦
why would you?
More DPS? thats what i do in WoW
you are likely to die to tank buster if you equipped left side DPS gear
@blazing pelican its 4 kills of o4 now
Oh ok
right side would have been a nice gain if we could equip it
but since Stormblood, tanks could not equip STR accessories anymore
Thz a bunch guys, have a better idea of what my goals should be,
STR accessories would be BiS if we could equip them
with some nice VIT melds for more room
Yeah I still tend to think penta is overkill lol
I wish they didn't take away the vit/str main stat split for tanks
Dumbest decision ever tbh
Now if you wanna be best in slot you gotta be able to afford to get a crafted right side and penta meld it
DPS and Healers: BiS
Tanks: Bi$
Exactly lol
BOY I LOVE RNG BULLSHIT IN MY SUB MMO
the differnece is needing rng to clear the fights vs rng for doing 200 more damage
for your fflogs penis size
O7S is rng?
Kinda
There are 2 patterns
And who gets seering from Healer/tanks is RNG
Also MCH opener is "healers adjust" there
both patterns are scripted and all the mechanics happen anyways, as for searing wind, that's rng but it's not really that significant
mch's thing is zero impact cause you just pre adlo him
I think I am overall more annoyed by Faustka than by Guardian
yea the thunder and blizzard rng is annoying
Stupid mana charge/release shit
Do machinists have to stand still or something in their openers?
Yeah
Oh their flamethrower right
First Lazer lines up with the flamethrower part in their opener
I see
So they are rooted while the boss can shoot at them
The dragoon in my group keeps getting himself blasted by the first ray because of jump's animation lock
Tbh
I've never had a problem with the ray and my jumps
He leveled drg to 70 like a week ago so he could raid with us lol
So he's still learning, I'll let him know to move jump
i'm usually not at my jump yet before magitek ray happens
The ray makes me feel like a sneaky ninja since I gotta trick him while he's turned around for ray ;o
i'm usually at chaos thrust and then jump happens afterwards
Part of high end play is to adjust your opener to the encounter
for DRG u can just either give up the positional
My Kefka opener doesn't have Onslaught outside of IR for example
or predict the 180 turn around
Because Onslaught comes off CD just as I am in Holmgang
And then you have Byakko as PLD where you can't finish either opener properly before State of Shock sigh
Byakko i just use Requiscat opener for, and then just delay the rest of it
if i'm going to have downtime i'd rather just use HS
I left click my potion on my bar
but it doesnt go off 90% of the time
what is this game? q.q
Opener potion?
yea
Potions have delay on them
Your latency?
sometimes they work but
A really bad delay
Maybe you tried to double weave
naw
lmao
single
Eve with single weave it's bad
Real good ping
where would I pop a potion then lol
You usually need to use only the potion to not clip
im just starting to use them
Did you follow the standard opener?
But for DRK and WAR you use it at 4th/5th GCD
pot is dumb
during triple is correct time
but need to mash it hard and hope
if you have bad latency sometimes it just won't go off
for me it always clips
but it's a minor clip, all things considered
well like

it's after an instant cast so it's same as spinning GCD on DoW and single weaving
just, pot is dumb
I don't clip pot if the only weave is the pot itself
how much ping do you have
Triple ;-;
at 90-100 it's generally almost always a minor clip
My ping is like 80~95
i still dont know how to check my ping to the server
90
yeah can practice with regular nq potion
oh, you have to keep in mind too
BLM stack sps
Ether can too?
yeah any kind of medicine
They all clip the same





