#endgame-lounge

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wet stag
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I fuckin hate having to wait for ir

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Feelsbad

paper torrent
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IR decimate bless

wet stag
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I mean

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When you can get ir decimate off

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Sure

scenic patrol
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DRK still feels better at dungeons

wet stag
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That's real nice

split falcon
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why wouldn't you?

paper torrent
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implying that i'm not going to rampart anyway

torn kindle
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WHM+DRK = Troll the DRK by spamming holy when they use Blood Price.

wet stag
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But drk is more consistently fun

paper torrent
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if no whm anyway

torn kindle
scenic patrol
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My favorite

paper torrent
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OH MY GOD

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NO

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PELASE WYNNE

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STOP

scenic patrol
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I got trolled by it so many fucking times

split falcon
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unless it's like the last pull of hell's lid RI+awareness+Ramp is like, no damage anyway

torn kindle
split falcon
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more like troll the drk when they use TBN

scenic patrol
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In the one year I played DRK

split falcon
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watch tbn fall off

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cry

wet stag
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Nah

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Tbn should break

paper torrent
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when i see tbn fall off without getting blood

wet stag
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Since it's 7 seconds now

paper torrent
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i want to cry

split falcon
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me too

paper torrent
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5 sec TBN was the worst idea

torn kindle
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Puts Benison on you before you use TBN

wet stag
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Tbn is priority tho

scenic patrol
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Fuck you dude

paper torrent
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@torn kindle i pray i never get you in Expert

scenic patrol
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Blood Price Holy spam is still the worst

paper torrent
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you know how to hurt me

wet stag
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It's ok now imo

torn kindle
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just don't spam your mp moves when i use holy

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problem solved

wet stag
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Like sure it still kinda sucks ish

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But whatever

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You still get 20 blood

paper torrent
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the amount of MP though

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wew

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no one man should have all this POWAH

wet stag
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Let me introduce you to

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Blood weapon quietus

split falcon
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let me introduce you to

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HW Blood Price

scenic patrol
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Yeah, Blood Price currently is quite shit

wet stag
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ignoring the blood gain and only focusing on mp loss

torn kindle
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wait, bp does that too?

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spams holy even more

split falcon
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blood price right now is better for blood than it is mp

wet stag
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Yeah

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Using bp for mp now is feelschromosomeman

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I'll just say

scenic patrol
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Blood Price gives you Blood as long as you are in combat

wet stag
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I would fucking love to have a holy spamming whm when I'm drk in dungeons

split falcon
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yeah i get ones that spam cure 3 when i'm the only one taking damage

wet stag
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Because it means I can more safely drop grit and bw quietus

split falcon
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feelsgood

scenic patrol
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So you open with Grit BP on O6S

wet stag
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Yeah

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Ofc

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I pull anyway so

paper torrent
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Blood price on Byakko and dropping DS during transition

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WEW

scenic patrol
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Wasn't meant as a question

wet stag
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Oh lol mb

torn kindle
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imagine if DS still leeched mp in sb
and you forgot to take it off before byakko transition.

paper torrent
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

wet stag
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Shut up

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Just

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Mods ban pls

torn kindle
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Sorry I torture DRKs so much, I don't get them that often in dungeons and I don't adjust for them

pure yoke
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well

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it auto turns off at 0 mp

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so you still end up regening some mp back

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depending on how much you emptied it

wet stag
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Well yeah but like

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Not having mp for tbn byakko's ultimate would feel bad

scenic patrol
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I don't miss old DS

paper torrent
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i don't think anyone does

wet stag
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But tons of people are like

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"bring back hw drk"

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No

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Don't bring back hw drk

torn kindle
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maybe just scourge.

wet stag
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Having a 30s gcd dot is stupid

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Because it doesn't flow with the rotation

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It's a speed bump

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On a highway

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Scourge animation? Sure

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But they removed it for a reason: button bloat

scenic patrol
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Dots are just button bloat if your kit isn't designed around them

wet stag
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Exactly

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They got rid of phlebotomize as well

scenic patrol
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Summoner is designed around his dots

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Bard as well

wet stag
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I'm sincerely hoping they get rid of goring blade next expansion

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Add New and Interesting Mechanics™ haha

torn kindle
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Get rid of Ruin it's not a DoT haha

scenic patrol
torn kindle
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👍

scenic patrol
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Aletin and Emiin looking through logs for damage taken comparisons

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Most DRKs are just plain bad

hybrid rapids
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!faq drkguide

storm frostBOT
hybrid rapids
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spread the love

scenic patrol
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It's a good guide

hybrid rapids
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can you send tell to all average or below DRK

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this guide?

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so overall DRK community improve

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emiin will be happy too

scenic patrol
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He'll get more people to troll him though

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In the Balance

hybrid rapids
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@desert trench thanks again for the guide ❤ and i'm sorry to hear what happened on your PUGs

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100% is too far away

desert trench
scenic patrol
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DA TBN

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Hah

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You can't delete here

desert trench
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tsun pls purge this mans comments

scenic patrol
limpid slate
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how much HP do i want for kefka prog?

keen glacier
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200

scenic patrol
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what job?

hybrid rapids
limpid slate
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im an RDM

hybrid rapids
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kefka savage?

limpid slate
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RDM/SMN

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ya

hybrid rapids
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ignore that loli face char said

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i would go 43k

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for kefka god

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kefka is possible with 40k

sterile geyser
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how do i convince my static dps that guardian missles are not, in fact, tasty treats to consume with their face?

split falcon
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emiin's pug streams broke my heart

hybrid rapids
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kefka god that forsaken is pain in the ass

split falcon
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FUCKING OT

hybrid rapids
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and won't hurt to have extra on progression

desert trench
limpid slate
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i got 41k with right side VIT melds

hybrid rapids
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emiin, come to aether

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41k as in food + pt buff?

limpid slate
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the only item i have under 360 is my chest piece because anemos and melds

scenic patrol
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nah, come to EU

hybrid rapids
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that's fine for kefka

limpid slate
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not with buffs

scenic patrol
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I'll show you my big dick Monk DPS

limpid slate
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so with food probably

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44k

hybrid rapids
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erm

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yea, it's a good number

desert trench
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i demand a color

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perfectly pink

hybrid rapids
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again, that's a disgusting but cute avatar

pure yoke
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ur cute

hybrid rapids
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white means pure

desert trench
pure yoke
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oh Tsun

hybrid rapids
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we need more emojis here

pure yoke
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I'm ripping through games at such a fast rate

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I am going to run out of money

hybrid rapids
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what did you bought after ni no kuni 2?

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god of war?

pure yoke
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Yakuza 0

torn kindle
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The less color your parse number has = the more you respect the content.

hybrid rapids
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oh...i don't like that

pure yoke
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I love it

hybrid rapids
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did you bought the omae mou shindeiru?

pure yoke
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?

hybrid rapids
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Hokuto Ga Gotoku lol

pure yoke
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nope

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not big on Jojo

hybrid rapids
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ahh

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god of war is a good to have imo

scenic patrol
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ilvl 357 Monk after leveling it

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decent

hybrid rapids
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nice

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raid ready

scenic patrol
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I think I can outdps most pugs once I have the opener down

split falcon
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i'd hope so

scenic patrol
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I actually try to learn my job before entering savage content

pure yoke
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I remember Creator

hybrid rapids
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no, learn in savage

pure yoke
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I didn't start Creator until I could do a12s dummy

scenic patrol
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I never bothered with SSS actually

split falcon
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i only ever both with SSS if i'm too lazy to wait for CDs

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otherwise i just use a dummy

scenic patrol
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I just dummy parse at my FC

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to death

paper torrent
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can confirm

scenic patrol
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I have so many hours spent dummy parsing

paper torrent
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bought a stirking dummy for my house

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before a mailbox

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#raiderlyfe

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(with seals, obviously.)

scenic patrol
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I need to buy a level 1 dummy and buy a small house

split falcon
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faust striking dummy 😍

paper torrent
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how is housing on odin anyway

scenic patrol
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I dunno

split falcon
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housing is basically free

scenic patrol
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didn't research it too much

split falcon
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so many open spots still

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everyone in my fc has a personal house in the same ward as our fc house just because no one was buying them

pure yoke
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Dravarian Hinterlands is a good dummy to use

scenic patrol
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wait you are on Odin?

split falcon
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me? yeah

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i used to be cerb

scenic patrol
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cool

split falcon
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!whoami

storm frostBOT
split falcon
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oh

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there we go

scenic patrol
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don't recognize the FC name, but then again I haven't been on Odin for long

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!whoami

storm frostBOT
split falcon
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it's small

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like half of it is just my static

paper torrent
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TFW johni still has a better ilevel than me

split falcon
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i'm one piece away from bis feelsbad

scenic patrol
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no shit, I have got one weave

paper torrent
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!whoami

storm frostBOT
paper torrent
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um

pure yoke
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!whoami

paper torrent
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that's not my warrior

storm frostBOT
pure yoke
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wow

scenic patrol
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I am 2 weaves away and diamond weapon away from BiS

pure yoke
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I'm i369

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not 68

hybrid rapids
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the calculation paissasquint

paper torrent
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wasn't eanae saying something about that

scenic patrol
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well, back to practicing Monk

paper torrent
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like weapons were being counted twice or something

hybrid rapids
scenic patrol
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and it's lodestone being weird

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not Kupo

hybrid rapids
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no

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lodestone didn't give actual ilvl to public

split falcon
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tfw my bis isn't gonna be 370

hybrid rapids
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hmm?

split falcon
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penta crafted belt for 2.48 gcd build

hybrid rapids
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oh, you don't have to force yourself

paper torrent
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oh god

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are you doing

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slowboi

split falcon
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mch is slowboye...

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if you have a fast gcd on mch you're shooting yourself in the foot

paper torrent
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oh i thought we were talking about tanks still

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i'm retarded

split falcon
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nah i'm FASTBOYE on drk and war

paper torrent
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i was about to say

hybrid rapids
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that's like 0.02 away from 2.5

split falcon
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yes

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basic maths

paper torrent
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-1 +3 THAT'S 4 QUICK MATHS

hybrid rapids
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i meant

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2.5 is like max

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of lowest SkS

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of a GCD

split falcon
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yeah

hybrid rapids
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let me check my friend's mch bis

split falcon
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this is the one i use

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there's several available and they all have pros and cons

hybrid rapids
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same

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with

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him

split falcon
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overall it depends what you're comfortable playing at but crafted belt is "better"

scenic patrol
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seems decent for dummy

paper torrent
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Ayyy johni

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looking good

scenic patrol
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Brotherhood with 3 melee comp though

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👀

paper torrent
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littany + TA

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OOF

hybrid rapids
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did you summoned chocobo?

scenic patrol
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can't do that in housing

hybrid rapids
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to gather

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brother

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nvm

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spirit bomb

split falcon
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not even sure if chocobro gives you procs, do chocobos have weaponskills?

hybrid rapids
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hmm

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does it cost tp to use?

scenic patrol
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well, time to see how I do in raids

hybrid rapids
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good luck

scenic patrol
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Kefka NM here I go

paper torrent
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inb4 areo knocked off

limpid slate
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4 on the polish, 11 on the weave

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bad raid week

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end my life

paper torrent
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welcome to savage

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savage pugs, which is basically hell

limpid slate
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idk we did o7s on the second pull atleast

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didnt have to run it 20 times to see a clear

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so atleast that was good

paper torrent
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sometimes i wonder if i would pay the time of doing 5-6 more tries

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to get an item at the end

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or just clear in 2 pulls and walk away

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with absolute fuck shit all

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and then i remeber i'm a student

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so i say fuck shit all

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silver lining i guess, pages still exist

scenic patrol
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wew lad

paper torrent
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you are ready

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go, train supplex now

stiff thorn
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people all over the place suggest 370 weapon is hands down better than 355, but i think that isn't the case for SCH unless i'm looking at something funny

wet stag
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WEAPON DAMAGE

steady pebble
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pretty sure 200 substats don't make up for the missing wd/mnd

stiff thorn
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is this calculator accurate?

scenic patrol
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Weapon Damage and main stat are the most important stats

hybrid rapids
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I didn't use that

wet stag
hybrid rapids
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but this from the balance

wet stag
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From the sch pins

stiff thorn
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oh thanks i'll take a look

blazing pelican
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Byakko to Tome isn't worth it for SCH unless you can upgrade to 370 immediately

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+3 WD and +23 MND isn't anything to sneeze at, plus the extra VIT

stiff thorn
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did i do this right?

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i've been passing on the roborants because i figured the book was pretty bad

hybrid rapids
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if you only want to know which book is better

stiff thorn
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well... i guess it's ok for the 300 piety? so then i can prob use 350 pants instead of the 370 ones

hybrid rapids
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Eureka > Byakko > Tome (360)

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if you don't raid

stiff thorn
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i'm trying to minmax

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bc i'm hardly holding onto 99 parses

blazing pelican
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if you're minmaxing you should be aiming for BiS then >_>

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Diamond Codex

stiff thorn
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my team not there yet :<

blazing pelican
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RIP

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Think this is the first time I've beaten a tier on time

stiff thorn
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soon tm for me!

blazing pelican
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how far have y'all gotten? What's the hold up?

stiff thorn
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we just got to gkekfa last week

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i joined them on like... week 4 or something?

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for fresh prog at 5

blazing pelican
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started late, I see

stiff thorn
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and then after clearing 7, the other healer left

blazing pelican
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_>

stiff thorn
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so we didn't do any kekfa for like 4 weeks

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we got a new one last week, so this next week will be our first "normal" week for a while haha

blazing pelican
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I mean, you can always grab a sub in pf unless you raid at ass o'clock

stiff thorn
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true! i really don't like healer pugs though, because it's usually hard to coordinate heals

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and then i have to use gcd healing and ehh

blazing pelican
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_> If you think you're gonna get through God Kefka without GCD healing I've got some really bad news for you

stiff thorn
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oh lol yea ik

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i'm ready for the

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20-30 succors

hybrid rapids
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erm no...

hybrid rapids
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indom > succor

stiff thorn
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i thought even in the top speedrun parses the sch used like 20 succs o-o

hybrid rapids
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should check cast

blazing pelican
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yeah the whole fight is suffering

hybrid rapids
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for the overall picture

blazing pelican
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also we haven't optimized yet, still overcompensating

hybrid rapids
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succor is because

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is better than spending 1 aetherflow for soil

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aetherflow is better on raw healing

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like indom and excog

paper torrent
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throws excog at tank during Tb

hybrid rapids
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it's 15 succor + 3 et succor

stiff thorn
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from my measly 10 mins or w/e of gkekfa experience it looks like i'll need to put out a succ after almost every raidwide

blazing pelican
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I use Sacred cause damage can be touchy during 2nd Forsaken

stiff thorn
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i really wonder how much more interesting sch would be if

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sacred soil didn't use aetherflow

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and had like a 90s+ cd or something

blazing pelican
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and sometimes Light of Judgement because fuck that spell

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Sacred is OP

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10% flat reduction w/ 30s cd for the cost of an aetherflow stack

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!action Sacred Soil

storm frostBOT
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**Sacred Soil** : lvl 45 Scholar (30 second cooldown)

Creates a designated area in which party members will only suffer 90% of all damage inflicted.
Duration: 15s
Additional Effect: 20% chance that next Succor will cost no MP
Duration: 15s Additional Effect: Increases Faerie Gauge by 10 Aetherflow Gauge Cost: 1
Cannot be used with any other area-creating actions.

paper torrent
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10% raid wide with shake it off

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oof

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some good shit

stiff thorn
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how much piety are you guys running for gkekfa?

blazing pelican
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A little more than what I need

unique wolf
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pretty sure our healers had max piety melds for prog

blazing pelican
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I'm dangerously close to OOM around 2:50 or so

unique wolf
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but that was like 10 weeks ago so idk

hybrid rapids
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first week yes

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now people running minimum

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like 1 or 2 raise literally kill your MP

blazing pelican
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but it's not crippling

unique wolf
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well if you haven't cleared

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why would you run 14k mp

blazing pelican
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yeah any raises and I'm decent fucked

unique wolf
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thats just asking to not clear

hybrid rapids
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true

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low PIE is for optimizing

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if progressing PIE is important to recovering from mistakes

stiff thorn
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my gkekfa setup will be around 1200 piety

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think it should be enough, i've heard 1k is usually the baseline or so

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will tone it down later as my group gets more comfortable with the fight

blazing pelican
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My chosen BiS set will drop me just shy of 1k piety

stiff thorn
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that sounds about right

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i think i need to adjust my set a bit

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or... i need to get that diamond codex

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because my dps focused set has like 500 piety and i run out even during o6

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even with the free mana refresh

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and minimal gcd healing

unique wolf
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i dont think we do any gcd heals on sch for o6

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besides 2 deploys

blazing pelican
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I'm trying to get to that point, but my co is still kinda new to AST and I have to compensate

stiff thorn
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yea, ideally shouldn't need any

blazing pelican
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Crap this is a bit high level, I better dumb it down for people trying to do endgame stuff

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Ahem

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HEAL THE PARTY

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DODGE THINGS

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DPS INBETWEEN THE TWO ABOVE ITEMS

paper torrent
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Instructions unclear

blazing pelican
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CONGRATS YOU'RE NOW 50TH PERCENTILE

paper torrent
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I put eos on sic

blazing pelican
stiff thorn
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there is one place where i think thats acceptable

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eureka

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while afking

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to make it look like you're doing stuff

paper torrent
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Can't have eos heal if everyone wiped tp raid wides

stiff thorn
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speaking of eureka, here's a quality macro

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to be "useful" as you sit in trains afk

blazing pelican
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Totally not stealing this

paper torrent
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Same

blazing pelican
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you can't prove anything

paper torrent
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I'm going to add a .01 sec

blazing pelican
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decimals don't work on wait.x commands

paper torrent
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And put a trade mark on it

blazing pelican
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whole numbers only

paper torrent
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O

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Then another sec

sleek karma
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How do you HQ the 6377 Difficulty Crafts? I have simulated the craft with my old Waste Not rotation, but it barely make a dent on HQ percent bar.

outer garden
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depends on your stats, but you might have to do a maker's mark rotation if they're not great

steady pebble
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MaMa Hell

outer garden
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and you'll have to start with at least some hq materials

sleek karma
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But how do you even get 462CP? I only have 395CP.

steady pebble
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overmelding

outer garden
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lots and lots of overmelding

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and food

blazing pelican
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Having the best gear isn't enough. You'll need to overmeld and have appropriate food for the highest level crafts

outer garden
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basically, for endgame crafts you want to get to as close as max cp as possible

steady pebble
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finally got my ala mhigan gear but im slowly working on the overmeld x_x

outer garden
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if you can afford it, cheating and buying yourself an ala mhigan chest helps a lot to get the other pieces started

lucid karma
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476 max cp right now

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Without buff

sleek karma
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I wish there's a medicine that allows you to boost your overmeld chance paissasquint

lucid karma
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Now that's slippery slope

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BDO flashback

outer garden
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i have a medicine that makes overmelding less painful, it's called alcohol

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you just turn off the sound and watch the pretty lights..

steady pebble
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some i know has ptsd from the overmeld fail noise lol

sleek karma
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Well, the overmeld success rate for 5th slot is like 5% or less...

scenic patrol
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17%
10%
7%
5%

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Welcome to hell

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Tanks sends their regards

outer garden
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at least your materia is relatively cheap paissasquint

scenic patrol
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True

sleek karma
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But the tier 6 materia...

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T_T

outer garden
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oh that reminds me, i should start hoarding it now while it's "cheap"

steady pebble
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mia can you send me some of those cheap jp materias?

outer garden
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no, because i'm hoarding them

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duhhh

steady pebble
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v_v

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meanie

outer garden
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even control vi is only 180k noice

steady pebble
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giimmee

outer garden
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:blobemojihandingyounotificationinsteadofmateria:

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@steady pebble

steady pebble
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xD

brave maple
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brb xferring to Atomos

stable basin
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hrm, det or spell speed for scholar

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this item is already full on crit

spice comet
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I prefer crit>det> (kill me) piety

dull radish
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can check to see how close you are to the next ss tier

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probably worth it if you're close

fading shoal
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so which materia can i safely transmute into other materia?

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basically which materia is worthless right now?

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besides the elemental ones

torn kindle
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I do most of the main stat materia but STR VI and VIT VI depending on prices

paper torrent
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Skillspeed is really bad

torn kindle
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I also do Tenacity/Piety/SkS/SpS depending on prices.

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TL;DR: anything but Red

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Some of the gathering materia can be fairly cheap too, but crafting is usually too expensive to transmute.

paper torrent
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Most mainstat besides str is useless

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Str is used for tanks

lyric summit
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some sam builds meld sks

paper torrent
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SAM

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Hahaha nice joke

fading shoal
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so yea i'm guessing piety is just outright shite

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and yellow materia in general

spice comet
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Bis doesnt include piety only prog god does if preferred by said healer paissasquint so yea yellows shit

torn kindle
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I mean healer gear comes with a lot of piety that's hard to avoid

paper torrent
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cough

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DIAMOND CANE

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cough

torn kindle
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!item diamond cane

storm frostBOT
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**Diamond Cane** **:** Two-handed Conjurer's Arm **:** ilvl 375
Damage

105

Magic Damage

141

Auto Attack

120.4

Vitality

352

Mind

355

Piety

223

Spell Speed

318

Materia Meldable

Yes

torn kindle
#

👀

#

At least it isn't high piety low SpS

paper torrent
#

I swear

torn kindle
#

I wonder how screwed over sch got for their book

#

!item diamond codex

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**Diamond Codex** **:** Scholar's Arm **:** ilvl 375
Damage

105

Magic Damage

141

Auto Attack

109.2

Vitality

352

Mind

355

Piety

223

Critical Hit

318

Materia Meldable

Yes

torn kindle
#

oh nice high crit

spice comet
#

Nah

#

Thats bis

#

For sch cause the other one is trash

#

Beyond trash

#

I use my anemos over the tome codex kind of trash

paper torrent
#

Ast has crit and det iirc

spice comet
#

They got the best

#

Thats not even fair

#

!item genji codex

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#
**Genji Codex** **:** Scholar's Arm **:** ilvl 345
Damage

100

Magic Damage

135

Auto Attack

104

Vitality

295

Mind

308

Piety

196

Critical Hit

280

Materia Meldable

Yes

spice comet
#

Every damn tier

#

paissasquint wheres sch det

torn kindle
#

!item genji cane

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#
**Genji Cane** **:** Two-handed Conjurer's Arm **:** ilvl 345
Damage

100

Magic Damage

135

Auto Attack

114.66

Vitality

295

Mind

308

Piety

280

Determination

196

Materia Meldable

Yes

paper torrent
#

Oof

spice comet
#

No wonder tomes bis

#

Last tier on whm

#

!item allagan cane

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#
**Allagan Cane** **:** Two-handed Conjurer's Arm **:** ilvl 95
Damage

47

Magic Damage

71

Auto Attack

52.64

Vitality

35

Mind

34

Piety

22

Spell Speed

39

Materia Meldable

No

spice comet
#

Uh

#

Not that one

paper torrent
#

Whm mains on suicide watch

woeful prawn
#

i like spellspeed whm

grizzled seal
#

sps main is great

#

😌

limpid ocean
#

!item lost allagan cane

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#
**Lost Allagan Cane** **:** Two-handed Conjurer's Arm **:** ilvl 330
Damage

98

Magic Damage

132

Auto Attack

112.37

Vitality

269

Mind

284

Piety

268

Critical Hit

188

Materia Meldable

Yes

dapper idol
#

is whm the best healer?

hybrid rapids
#

that's too general

#

WHM is strongest in raw healing compared to SCH/AST

#

also strongest personal DPS

#

but that doesn't make it best healer

#

all 3 healers have their pros and cons

#

for example strongest in raw healing = more enmity generated

#

and might grab main tank's enmity instead

#

strongest in personal DPS doesn't means contribute more raid DPS

split falcon
#

whm is strongest for prog

#

that's about it

paper torrent
#

Tanks generally don't worry about healer aggro

split falcon
#

o8s

#

they do

paper torrent
#

I'm usually more worried about that fucking blm parsing 5i

split falcon
#

so much healing in that fight

paper torrent
#

6k*

#

Oh yeah right i forgot about god prog

split falcon
#

whms are king of stupid enmity generation

#

it gets better but during prog sometimes it's sweaty

paper torrent
#

Hmmm i didn't know that it was that much

#

TIL

scenic patrol
#

started Kefka prog, WHM already had some spicy enmity climbs on Faust

#

also we just kicked our Summoner and replaced him with a healer, one of the healers is now SMN instead, he is parsing the same as our old SMN

dull radish
#

I'm worried about a BLM parsing 6k too, that's a little low

scenic patrol
#

while having lower ilvl

grizzled seal
#

AST has the emnity reduction from the sects and earthly doesn't generate enmity, SCH has the fairy that generates emnity for itself and whm has basically nothing

woeful prawn
#

medica iis prepull tanks????

unreal lance
#

TFW 6k BLM sounds high, but I haven't played for like half a year

pure yoke
#

got 6.4k dps on godka today

#

FeelsGoodMan

dull radish
#

6k BLM is like, decent-ish maybe

pure yoke
#

oh Rika

#

terrorizing fflogs yet?

dull radish
#

not anything notably new

hybrid rapids
#

!fflogs o8s

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FFLogs Rankings for God Kefka (Savage)
  1. Holis Cube of Masamune on Black Mage [7624.44 DPS]
  2. Iyubai Twuyuku of Chocobo on Black Mage [7408.52 DPS]
  3. Te Tu of Ixion on Black Mage [7304.2 DPS]
  4. Mint Dew of Jenova on Black Mage [7283.38 DPS]
  5. Amelia Amaryllis of Tonberry on Black Mage [7230.46 DPS]
dull radish
#

holis cube padding too hard, screwing up all stars bad

hybrid rapids
#

blm is crazy

dull radish
#

no

#

well, the others are ok

pure yoke
#

well

#

I made it into the 590 asp club

dull radish
#

holis is mediocre BLM getting fed 90% balance

pure yoke
#

recently

hybrid rapids
#

lmao

#

balance trick still work

dull radish
#

they had like 1400 dps from outside sources in that god kefka run

pure yoke
#

sounds pretty crazy

hybrid rapids
#

catered

#

parse

pure yoke
#

I beat my pb for Kefka and Godka today

dull radish
#

nice

#

I need to start to work on beating some of my other parses

#

I think we might start running AST so that should help

pure yoke
#

!whologs @pure yoke

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FFLogs Data (Damage)
**Phantom Train (Savage)**

Dragoon: (17/7627) [6539.07 DPS] [99.7 Historical] [5:55]

**Demon Chadarnook (Savage)**

Dragoon: (6/7394) [7022.5 DPS] [99.8 Historical] [6:37]

**Guardian (Savage)**

Dragoon: (31/5156) [6029.11 DPS] [99.6 Historical] [8:36]

**Kefka (Savage)**

Dragoon: (4/3874) [5968.39 DPS] [100 Historical] [5:50]

**God Kefka (Savage)**

Dragoon: (17/2657) [6426.82 DPS] [99.3 Historical] [8:34]

dull radish
#

BLM all stars are just so bad

pure yoke
#

so close to 6k+ on all kills

#

damage

dull radish
#

laqi had like #2 BLM run

#

and had 116 ASP for the fight

#

on 5

pure yoke
#

jeez

#

same

#

I have 116asp as drg

#

since drg pads like crazy

#

on that kill

hybrid rapids
#

is there any changes of BLM during patch 4.1?

#

that makes it so strong this tier

dull radish
#

F4 potency buff, and Thundercloud proc length was extended

hybrid rapids
#

!!

#

F4 back to the old one?

#

i think they reduced F4 potency for 20 or something

#

since 4.0

dull radish
#

they reduced it like 40 I think? And now raised it back up by 20

#

something like that

hybrid rapids
#

ahh

#

still good

#

at least it just outdamage SAM

pure yoke
#

BLM cross class is also more useful

#

than SAM's

raw cliff
#

Yoshi p said it's fine that blm and sam are worse than other jobs in raids because they're good in solo and other content so don't expect those jobs to ever be on the level of other jobs in raids

lucid karma
#

they're good in solo?

paper torrent
#

solo content

#

mattering

lucid karma
#

which is weird since besides quests there's no content that encourage or at least solo playing friendly

paper torrent
#

nice joke

lucid karma
#

if BLM and SAM are good at soloing why don't they reach floor 200 POTD soloing easily

paper torrent
#

OOF

raw cliff
#

I would prefer if balance was based on raids but this is the direction YoshiP wants to take

paper torrent
#

At least this isn't tera

#

where Slayer was legit a meme class as bad as HW PLD

#

and their damage came from fucking glitches that you had almost zero power to reproduce

raw cliff
#

Tera didn't really have a highly challenging endgame, was more about the grind

#

And dont say manaya hm that thing had 1 mechanic and was easy with 3 people

pure yoke
#

I heard TERA had some challenging raids

#

and had stuff like ummm

#

"You do more damage but it makes the boss permanently in enrage mode"

raw cliff
#

Maybe added years after release idk

pure yoke
#

like some parties intentionally do enrage kills

#

for faster kills

raw cliff
#

I haven't played it in 5 years

#

Was fun but too much pedobait

paper torrent
#

that's more so for soft enrages

#

hard enrage checks exist too

stiff thorn
#

fresh 70 brd, if you get straighter shot proc and straight shot is gone/wearing out, do you refulgent anyway or use it on the straight shot?

lusty oak
#

refulgent

paper torrent
#

The real answer is to plan your gcds better

#

Nah but seriously yeah reflugent is better

stiff thorn
#

mk thats what i figured

#

i feel like im going to be the greyest brd ever

#

soooo many buttons

paper torrent
#

if you smash your head into the gauges and know by instinct where your song prioerty is you'll generally be fine

#

also smashing that motherfucking bloodletter button when it comes up

#

and 2 sack PP

zinc vortex
#

2 stack PP only in heavy crit comps (drg/sch/potentially ast with spear)

#

And only when crit buffs are up

lusty oak
#

or in AoE situation when u have dots up on 3+ mobs

zinc vortex
#

or that yeah

#

remember to smash that iron jaws button when you see litany/strategem

stiff thorn
#

pp is...

lusty oak
#

pitch perfect

#

stacks u get in wanderers minuet

stiff thorn
#

ah

hybrid rapids
#

if you just hit Lv.70 bard

#

can read the guide

#

!faq brdguide

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hybrid rapids
#

31 pages 👀

lusty oak
#

@hybrid rapids u have Rinchan's guide to ranged DPS?

hybrid rapids
#

rinchan don't do guide

#

but you can ask him

lusty oak
#

he did tho

#

PRESS FUCKING BUTTONS

#

iirc

hybrid rapids
#

hmm

#

he had a channel

#

kinda AMA

unique wolf
#

brd guide bloblul

hybrid rapids
#

press all button

unique wolf
blazing pelican
#

!myglamour

storm frostBOT
#
Glamour for Yen Moonvow of Jenova
blazing pelican
#

Don't let anyone lie to you, glamour is the true end game

unique wolf
lucid karma
#

BRD is literally just press whatever buttons come up

#

But the guide tells what to press first instead of just blindly pushing buttons

lusty oak
#

just mash head on keyboard

#

easy blue parse

blazing pelican
#

Knowing how to do an opener and maintain a rotation puts you at blue most of the time

lucid karma
#

Opener asides BRD doesn't really have rotation

#

Just priority

rapid grove
#

A question about dots

#

Mainly for o7s prey

#

If say I use intervention on prey target, will they receive less dmg per tick?

#

Or only for the duration of intervention?

pure yoke
#

they receive less damage on all ticks

#

if you intervention them before they get hit

#

it snapshots it

#

on the other hand, if you intervention after he gets hit, it does nothing

#

not even for the dot

#

so it's all or nothing

blazing pelican
#

Mitigation must be applied before the effect occurs

rapid grove
#

Ahhh, I see

blazing pelican
#

This is true for all DoTs

rapid grove
#

So it works both ways, alright

#

Thanks!

cerulean pilot
#

anyone have a gif of the different forsaken for god kefka?

lyric summit
#
proven yarrow
#

im not sure how to go about asking but whats the comparison between eureka gear and 360 mendacity gear

#

or i guess is there a huge difference between the two sets

scenic patrol
#

360 is better 80% of the time

sudden wharf
#

What's the 20%?

scenic patrol
#

exceptions

thorn elm
#

lawl

stable basin
#

Tank gloves for one

#

The Ryumyaku Gauntlets of Fending are a trash fire

#

Sks Ten dear twelve WHY

wet stag
#

Eh sure it's not great

#

But it's okay

#

Unless you're pld

haughty axle
#

I guess ill begin my question here

wheat helm
#

tenacity is garbage regardless of which tank u are on... except drk. b/c drk is trash

lucid karma
#

wow rude

unique wolf
#

!whois @wheat helm

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#
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Character not saved, Kupo!

unique wolf
pure yoke
#

hi tiff

vital cypress
#

from earlier

#

there’s probably a decent case to be made for the i355 SCH Byakko tome vs the 360 one

torn kindle
#

What about the Anemos SCH weapon and melding 200 crit on it vs Byakko?

unique wolf
#

hello mugerino

drowsy pebble
#

is there a trick to alligning jump with gerskogul?

#

or do i need to delay one of them

thorn elm
blazing pelican
#

Kinda sorta, I can give some quick edits here

#

First off, you wanna unlock all your endgames dungeons, which means you need to do some side quests and catch up on the MSQ

#

Next you're gonna want to increase your item level. Item level currently soft caps at 350, but requires lots of gil

#

Hard cap is 360 if you don't do savage, 370 if you do

#

easiest method is to unlock your dungeons for roulettes, unlock Rabanastre for even more tomes and the item you'll need to trade for gear upgrades from 330 to 340

#

to get a 340 weapon, you'll need to do Deltascape V4.0 7 times to get the items needed to trade for the weapon tome, have 1000 creation tomes to trade for the tokens for the weapon, and a coin from Rabanastre to trade for the upgrade

#

once your item level is at the minimum, you can start doing Sigmascape, which I would do as soon as you can to start collecting weekly items for 350 gear

thorn elm
#

Are there lockouts on delta/sigma

blazing pelican
#

no lockouts, but you can only collect one drop a week from Sigma

#

resets are Tuesday

thorn elm
#

so 4 weeks for a weapon?

#

7*

blazing pelican
#

yes, 7 weeks of Sigma V4 to get your 360 weapon

#

Once you're 340 or really close to it (must have 340 weapon), learn and clear Byakko EX until you get your 355 weapon. You can use your 350 relic if you want, but Byakko EX is basically a warm-up for actual endgame stuff

#

and if you fail super hard at Byakko EX, you need to get good or Savage will eat you alive, along with you being a burden to the party

thorn elm
#

Okay alot more grinding then i thought

blazing pelican
#

you can always claim your relic gear from Eureka to armor up if you have the patience

#

it might even be better, since the Anemos gear has 5 materia slots

thorn elm
#

Can i farm Eureka as a fresh 70?

blazing pelican
#

yes

#

it's a grind tho

#

once you beat Byakko EX and are a bit higher than 340, you're geared enough for Savage

scenic patrol
#

Aye

blazing pelican
#

If you're a healer or dps, meld your entire right side with VIT VI

scenic patrol
#

But Eureka will probably be the fastest way to gear up

#

It's slow at first but once you are done you are more than savage ready

#

Anemos gear is really good

blazing pelican
#

some other tips for getting into Savage

scenic patrol
#

First tip of getting into savage

blazing pelican
#

Tanking: get used to provoking, shirking the other tank, and being out of tank stance

scenic patrol
#

HIT A FUCKING DUMMY!

blazing pelican
#

Healing: time spent not healing should have dots and rocks flying

scenic patrol
#

Practice your rotation at least 5 mins a day on a dummy until it becomes second nature

lyric kelp
#

You don't really need vit melds this tier

scenic patrol
#

Cannot stress this enough

blazing pelican
#

DPS: for the love of god, learn how to do a fucking opener and rotation and do it under stress

scenic patrol
#

Same for tanks

#

You need to know your opener

lyric kelp
#

Well drg might need it for light of judgement

blazing pelican
#

VIT melds for prog, take em off when you've beaten the tier or as you gear

#

I take mine off as I gear

thorn elm
#

Thz a bunch

lyric kelp
#

I didn't use any and cleared in ~i347

blazing pelican
#

👏 good for you

scenic patrol
#

They are not a must

#

But will make it easier

blazing pelican
#

can change a lethal hit to an almost lethal hit

scenic patrol
#

Less chance of getting one shot by AOE

lyric kelp
#

They were in sigma and Alex if you were around min ilvl

#

Raid wides just not as punishing

#

Drg seems to just have a weird case of having b4b line up with light of judgement

blazing pelican
#

_> O6S will fuck you up if your healers take a nap, Demonic Howl ain't no joke

scenic patrol
#

Aye

#

Also Ink

#

So many close calls with ink

blazing pelican
#

Had a lot of deaths when we were trying for parse runs

#

"oh yeah, healing"

#

"that thing I do"

#

"occasionally"

scenic patrol
#

Saved my DRG so many with SiO

thorn elm
#

So eurka goes to 350?

scenic patrol
#

350 armor and 355 weapon

#

with 5 meld slots

#

each

thorn elm
#

Left side only?

steady pebble
#

yeah

#

right side you'll have to get from sigmascape/tomestones

thorn elm
#

Cools

#

Were would i go to find my BiS stats?

hybrid rapids
#

stat i can help

#

equipment you have to check balance discord

thorn elm
#

PLD

#

Ive read crit and DH

hybrid rapids
#

DH first

#

DH > Crit > DET

thorn elm
#

So meld DH to everything?

hybrid rapids
#

again, if you ain't doing savage or ultimate

#

tank meld is a pain

blazing pelican
#

tanks are dumb

hybrid rapids
#

those penta accessories

blazing pelican
#

your BiS right side

thorn elm
#

I want to go into savage

blazing pelican
#

is all crafted pentamelds

#

With a STR VI on top, then a overmelded DH VI, then overmelded DH Vs

#

on all of them

thorn elm
#

dont even know what pentameld is 😦

scenic patrol
#

DH>Crit is if you don't have crit comp

#

Crit>DH is if you do

blazing pelican
#

you get a metric fuckton of materia and go visit a crafter friend

scenic patrol
#

pentamelds

#

so much wasted money

thorn elm
#

Well i do like games with things to chase.

scenic patrol
#

this thing here can cost you 1 million gil alone

blazing pelican
#

you're looking at potentially spending 10 million gil

#

that's the high ball

scenic patrol
#

to pentamelds crafted gear

blazing pelican
#

you're still gonna spend gil like water to finish these accessories

scenic patrol
#

you need to chance it

#

first one is guranteed

#

second is 17% VI meld

#

10%

#

7%

#

5% last one

#

3rd to 5 melds are V materias

thorn elm
#

If it fails can i just try again?

scenic patrol
#

yes

blazing pelican
#

yeah

#

but you lose the materia

scenic patrol
#

and the materia is destroyed in the process

blazing pelican
#

could be worse, in 1.0 failing a meld destroyed the item

scenic patrol
#

V melds are quite cheap right now

#

but VI melds can still go up to 100K each

thorn elm
#

So i think my goal is grind for Eureka gear.

hybrid rapids
#

Eureka doesn’t have accessories

thorn elm
#

And use crafting accessories.

#

I use fending gear as a tank right?

steady pebble
#

yes

scenic patrol
#

can't equip anything else

thorn elm
#

Ah so cant use dps gear 😦

scenic patrol
#

why would you?

thorn elm
#

More DPS? thats what i do in WoW

scenic patrol
#

you are likely to die to tank buster if you equipped left side DPS gear

boreal edge
#

@blazing pelican its 4 kills of o4 now

blazing pelican
#

Oh ok

scenic patrol
#

right side would have been a nice gain if we could equip it

#

but since Stormblood, tanks could not equip STR accessories anymore

thorn elm
#

Thz a bunch guys, have a better idea of what my goals should be,

scenic patrol
#

STR accessories would be BiS if we could equip them

#

with some nice VIT melds for more room

stable basin
#

Yeah I still tend to think penta is overkill lol

untold oyster
#

I wish they didn't take away the vit/str main stat split for tanks

#

Dumbest decision ever tbh

#

Now if you wanna be best in slot you gotta be able to afford to get a crafted right side and penta meld it

torn kindle
#

DPS and Healers: BiS
Tanks: Bi$

untold oyster
#

Exactly lol

paper torrent
#

BOY I LOVE RNG BULLSHIT IN MY SUB MMO

woeful prawn
#

the differnece is needing rng to clear the fights vs rng for doing 200 more damage

#

for your fflogs penis size

paper torrent
#

If you're doing o5s or o7s

#

You get to do BOTH

#

JOYYYY

cerulean pilot
#

O7S is rng?

scenic patrol
#

Kinda

#

There are 2 patterns

#

And who gets seering from Healer/tanks is RNG

#

Also MCH opener is "healers adjust" there

cerulean pilot
#

both patterns are scripted and all the mechanics happen anyways, as for searing wind, that's rng but it's not really that significant

woeful prawn
#

mch's thing is zero impact cause you just pre adlo him

scenic patrol
#

I think I am overall more annoyed by Faustka than by Guardian

cerulean pilot
#

yea the thunder and blizzard rng is annoying

scenic patrol
#

Stupid mana charge/release shit

untold oyster
#

Do machinists have to stand still or something in their openers?

scenic patrol
#

Yeah

untold oyster
#

Oh their flamethrower right

scenic patrol
#

First Lazer lines up with the flamethrower part in their opener

untold oyster
#

I see

scenic patrol
#

So they are rooted while the boss can shoot at them

untold oyster
#

The dragoon in my group keeps getting himself blasted by the first ray because of jump's animation lock

scenic patrol
#

He should move jump forward in his opener then

#

_>

untold oyster
#

Tbh

cerulean pilot
#

I've never had a problem with the ray and my jumps

untold oyster
#

He leveled drg to 70 like a week ago so he could raid with us lol

#

So he's still learning, I'll let him know to move jump

cerulean pilot
#

i'm usually not at my jump yet before magitek ray happens

untold oyster
#

The ray makes me feel like a sneaky ninja since I gotta trick him while he's turned around for ray ;o

cerulean pilot
#

i'm usually at chaos thrust and then jump happens afterwards

scenic patrol
#

Part of high end play is to adjust your opener to the encounter

heavy mist
#

for DRG u can just either give up the positional

scenic patrol
#

My Kefka opener doesn't have Onslaught outside of IR for example

heavy mist
#

or predict the 180 turn around

scenic patrol
#

Because Onslaught comes off CD just as I am in Holmgang

stable basin
#

And then you have Byakko as PLD where you can't finish either opener properly before State of Shock sigh

paper torrent
#

Byakko i just use Requiscat opener for, and then just delay the rest of it

#

if i'm going to have downtime i'd rather just use HS

fading widget
#

I left click my potion on my bar

#

but it doesnt go off 90% of the time

#

what is this game? q.q

hybrid rapids
#

Opener potion?

fading widget
#

yea

scenic patrol
#

Potions have delay on them

hybrid rapids
#

Your latency?

fading widget
#

sometimes they work but

scenic patrol
#

A really bad delay

fading widget
#

hm...

#

i try and weave it in with triple

hybrid rapids
#

Maybe you tried to double weave

fading widget
#

naw

hybrid rapids
#

lmao

fading widget
#

single

hybrid rapids
#

Erm

#

Triple weave you need like

scenic patrol
#

Eve with single weave it's bad

hybrid rapids
#

Real good ping

fading widget
#

where would I pop a potion then lol

scenic patrol
#

You usually need to use only the potion to not clip

fading widget
#

im just starting to use them

scenic patrol
#

I don't know of BLM opener

#

So I cannot answer

hybrid rapids
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Did you follow the standard opener?

scenic patrol
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But for DRK and WAR you use it at 4th/5th GCD

dull radish
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pot is dumb

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during triple is correct time

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but need to mash it hard and hope

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if you have bad latency sometimes it just won't go off

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for me it always clips

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but it's a minor clip, all things considered

scenic patrol
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Tank openers don't have much weaving so we can just use pots as needed

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God bless

dull radish
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well like

scenic patrol
dull radish
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it's after an instant cast so it's same as spinning GCD on DoW and single weaving

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just, pot is dumb

scenic patrol
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I don't clip pot if the only weave is the pot itself

dull radish
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how much ping do you have

hybrid rapids
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Triple ;-;

dull radish
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at 90-100 it's generally almost always a minor clip

fading widget
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uh

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is there a way for me to check

hybrid rapids
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My ping is like 80~95

fading widget
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i still dont know how to check my ping to the server

hybrid rapids
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You can test with

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Potion

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On dummy

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Try several time

scenic patrol
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90

dull radish
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yeah can practice with regular nq potion

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oh, you have to keep in mind too

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BLM stack sps

hybrid rapids
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Ether can too?

dull radish
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yeah any kind of medicine

scenic patrol
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They all clip the same

hybrid rapids
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So that’s the reason BLM goes over 2k spell speed?

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To triple weave

dull radish
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BLM vary so much on sps due to preference haha

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it's not triple weave

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it's weaving during triplecast

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three instant spells in a row

hybrid rapids
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Ahhh

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GCD oGCD x 3

dull radish
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always single weave pot

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yeah

hybrid rapids
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True

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Pot animation lock is stupid