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hybrid rapids
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make PF

tawny gull
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I am making it

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,missing a tank zzz

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what does it mean when it says that i cannto complete the content with te current party?

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they joined through pf so they should have everything unlocked

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but it has a ! mark on one of the party people

hybrid rapids
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@tawny gull you don't start the fight with completion complete

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since there's one or more people has completed the fight

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you can do completion practice

tawny gull
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i just have practice none

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or wait no now i put it as completion none

boreal edge
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@tawny gull dont put completion complete

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or you wont find ppl that are bored and would help

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unless u want 2 chests

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@tawny gull u either put it completion complete on farm 2 chests or just practice tag

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completion means no one that cleared for the week can join u

runic raptor
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Does anyone have a guidline value for 1 wep dmg?
I'm trying to tell someone why wep dmg in most cases rules all.

boreal edge
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@runic raptor wep dmg is around 100 dps alone for dps jobs

dull radish
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I don't really like that comparison but I guess it's marginally better than blindly comparing to a certain number of secondary stats

lucid karma
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I guess it's the matter of raw damage VS small percentage damage

dull radish
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well, it's mostly like, currently we don't really have a zero-value secondary (closest we have is piety for healers, which is more situational and to-taste), so you still get some value out of less than ideal ones

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along with the fact that you get both more weapon damage and main stat, both worth a good deal, it's rather tough for a lower ilvl weapon to be worth more

hybrid rapids
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to spawn pazuzu basically just kill Shadow Wraith at night and wait for next gale?

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we kill like 2 chains of shadow wraith (60) to guarantee a spawn right?

woeful prawn
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i think it needs less than that

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fates that need night time mobs seem to take much much much less than daytime to spawn

hybrid rapids
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yea, usually around 20~30

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we don't want to miss the chance

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we did a full 60....

woeful prawn
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you can also kill the mobs during nongales and it will spawn next gales

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i dont know if it needs 1 or 0 more mobkills to spawn but it makes it easier

still flower
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Kill amounts seem to be random, we've had and not had spawns with < 10 kills and with more than 25

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In fresh instances during night & gales.

torn kindle
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How can you tell if it's a fresh instance?

still flower
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Adventurer list, check amount of people & time remaining

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You join with 180 so if the people with the lowest amount of time at the bottom of the list are still at like 175 it's new.

glossy musk
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The kills are absolutely a lottery system

azure hill
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Did anyone do a Bard BiS with Anemos gear taken into account?

pure yoke
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it shouldn't change

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because it's only left side stuff

scenic patrol
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Yeah, left side has too much main stat for sub stats to matter

azure hill
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Ok, thanks ๐Ÿ˜„

azure hill
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Kind of feels like normal mode raid gear is useless now

scenic patrol
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It always was

azure hill
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Nice for alt classes

untold furnace
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is there any place where the location of all Eureka's quest are marked ?

lyric summit
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soulsurrender ๐Ÿ“Œ

hybrid rapids
untold furnace
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oh shit I didn't see the little numbers ,thanks

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what are the reasons for not being apple to glamour some stuff? I wanted to use some pieces of the strife set but I have the "cannot execute at this time" error, but they're supposed to be castable on all pieces right ?

woeful prawn
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its cause you're in the eureka overworld

untold furnace
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I'm not, I was in an inn room, I'm going out to see if this works

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yeah that was it

steady pebble
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you can't cast things in the inn room

scenic patrol
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Same for inn

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You can use plates

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But not glamour prisms

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It's retarded

untold furnace
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yeah kinda

untold furnace
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how do you know which debuffs you can and can't clean with Esuna ?

steady pebble
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an esuna -able debuff will have a white line above it

untold furnace
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that's weird, I've seen a paralizis with a white line and it wouldn't work

hybrid rapids
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Might be you getting paralyzed while casting it?

hybrid rapids
lyric summit
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can you go into eureka as a 24man alliance? ๐Ÿค”

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force it to make a new instance

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kill pazuzu

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leave

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wait for the 24 spots to fill and queue again

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get another new instance

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would still have to wait for gales i guess

stable basin
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Nope, 8 is max. Fresh instance forced is something they want to avoid

lyric summit
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rip

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makes sense tho

unique wolf
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pazuzu funk

hybrid rapids
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hi tiff

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golden weapon vs eureka weapon

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which do you prefer for DRK

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glamour use

lyric summit
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or for monk, sweet relic ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

pure yoke
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hi

unique wolf
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drk golden weapon is bis

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too bad all monk weapons look bad

junior basin
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Emperors new fists remain best mnk glam.

lyric summit
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i like midan and diamond kiiinda but they're weird

azure hill
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smacks @junior basin with a kettle

junior basin
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Rude.

azure hill
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The kettles are the only acceptable MNK weapon

stable basin
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@unique wolf drk golden weapon?

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The bahamut one?

hybrid rapids
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BiS in terms of glamour

lyric summit
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actual combat DRK bis weapon is axe or sword and shield ๐Ÿ’

boreal edge
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!whois @lyric summit

storm frostBOT
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Lalafell, Dunesfolk
Level 70 Summoner [Item Level 365]
<Froot> on Zodiark

boreal edge
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๐Ÿ˜”

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lala

lyric summit
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master race

unreal lance
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Mustard race

blazing pelican
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Remember at the end of the day, glamour is the true end game.

brave maple
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yup

agile flax
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Slowly getting that vibe as more of my friends hit end game, the more they start to slowly drift off from said game. How do I keep them around so this FC isn't so lonely? :C

brave maple
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Honestly thats kinda normal

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"Content Lull" they call it

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idk, my FC runs weekly events (Eureka, Maps), does contests and giveaways

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Another FC that I'm involved with by virtue of raiding does things like Scavenger hunts and choco races (though I've never participated since I'm not in their FC)

agile flax
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:C Yeah we try to do a lot of weekly content but usually half the FC Is gone after the first month of an expansion drops.

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Then they leave until another expansion hits.

brave maple
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Yah thats kidna normal

agile flax
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co-workers and other friends I know are breaking off from it too. As you said, its probably just a slow time atm.

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Growing pains with middle expansions.

brave maple
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My FC is one of the largest on Levi, but even we see it

agile flax
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dang D:

brave maple
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Lots of old people came back for Eureka

agile flax
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Really?

brave maple
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and you have the people who keep playing through the lulls

agile flax
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I had the opposite effect, I had a bunch leave from it. People I knew in real life.

brave maple
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Yah Eureka is fairly polarizing XD

agile flax
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Either you love it or hate it. XD

brave maple
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I mean my opinion has changed since we figured out hte NM strats

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I still think it's a misstep (iLvl needed to be higher)

agile flax
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Same. It starts to feel more fun once you hit 13+. Before that, it feels like a nightmare.

brave maple
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But there are people that love the grind

agile flax
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XD

brave maple
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like this is right up their alley

agile flax
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As for content, people just can predict it easily now and start to veer off. Which I can't blame them.

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So they come back when their hype is really built up.

brave maple
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yup

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and YoshiP is on record as saying this is what he wants

agile flax
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Which is both good and bad though./

brave maple
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yah there are good and bad sides to it

agile flax
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He has warned that after 4 years, it is hard to keep someone into the game and it is important to get new players. And he wants to bring people back and forth on it.

brave maple
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Its nice that you can take a break

agile flax
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But in a game where people coming back have to play catch up, this can be a hard thing to do.

brave maple
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but its easy to play catch up

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this ain't XI ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

agile flax
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It wasn't until Eureka happen! XD

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Party: Hey lets attack that mob! Its level 22!

Me: I don't know what that is and I don't want to know. Lets just walk over and attack the Pegasus like we are supposed to. They are easy.

Tank: aggros Appa/water nymph and dies in two hits

Me: Ok so what did we learn today?

brave maple
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I mean I liked the danger in Eureka

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we haven't felt threatened in the overworld in a long time

agile flax
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I know right. XD Its getting people used to it is the hard part.

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Some of the enemies in this game are not meant to be farmed. I'm almost certain.

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They are there just to avoid and that was what I was trying to warn my party about

brave maple
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Sneaking past mobs and be like "OH FUCK HE TURNED"

agile flax
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You don't want to just attack something based on its level.

brave maple
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those demon elephants

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fuck them XD

agile flax
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The Appa or whatever they were is a prime example. I only see this minion at the doorways in caves and it seems their only purpose is to sneak around. So I don't think you are able to attack them well. Not often at least.

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and pfft

untold furnace
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I want to start doing some deltascape savage to get my ilvl up, are people good enough with it so I can just find a group through DF or should I still make a PF ?

brave maple
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I don't think Deltascape Savage is really being run anymore

untold furnace
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well that's quite a problem then haha

brave maple
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If you're looking to get your iLvl up, yoru best bet might be Eureka tbh

untold furnace
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Sigma savage requires an ilvl of 340 but I can only get 330 gear from creations

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yeah I guess that's the best option now

brave maple
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you can upgrade that gear via Rabenastre

hybrid rapids
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No with pre made

untold furnace
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oh yeah I forgot about it

brave maple
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and do your Sigma Normals for now

hybrid rapids
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But the problem is clearing it

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With ilvl 330....and another 7 other players

untold furnace
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although from what I've heard rabenastre is kind of an ightmare but I've never tried it

brave maple
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Well if they want to get 340-350

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Wats the min-livl for Normal?

untold furnace
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idk but I can clear normalk

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and I've already done it

brave maple
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do it every week

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get your tokens ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

untold furnace
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325 for normal

brave maple
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Clear Byakko EX or Eureka for your 355 weapon

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or convince someone to make you a 350 crafted set

untold furnace
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yeah that's what I'm doing, it's just that I'm playing a lot so I'll clear all of sigma normal the 1st day of weekly reset so then I have plenty of time left lol

brave maple
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I mean

dull radish
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rabanastre is faceroll haha

brave maple
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thats what everyone else does

untold furnace
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I'd do byakko EX but it's locked to 340 too

brave maple
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Kill Sigma normal for the week

pure yoke
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You could also get crafted gear

brave maple
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....tfw you stay on the bleeding edge of iLvl and don't know the catchup pain

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but that is $$$

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Honestly I'd go with a mix of Eureka, Mendacity, and Sigma Normal

untold furnace
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yeah idk how much crafter gear cost but I guess that's expensive af and I'm playing alone so can't ask anyone

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yeah that's what I'm going to stick to I guess

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I have to grind eureka anyway for the relic

spice comet
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Actually spend 2 days in eureka

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Ull get crystals raining enough for 350 + 355 wep

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Perfect for starting savage

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(If u hate urself enough to speed lvl in there)

hazy lichen
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got my weapon to +1, whew

dull radish
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nice

unreal flax
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You're gonna get your +2 weapon so fast now.

untold furnace
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@spice comet yeah I think I'll grind bit by bit, because the fate train is making me braindead

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and I've just tried making a PF with people my lvl to farm some mobs lvl 5 or 6 higher and it was a complete disaster

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not sure if that's because I was too greedy (pulling 2 or 3 mobs) or if just bad party idk

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maybe we should have just sticked to killing one by one

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but we kept getting aggro on respawning mobs so that quickly went to shit

spice comet
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The fate train is also what will shove crystals down ur throat so paissasquint ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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Can confirm, lvl 1-18 got enough crystals for full 350 armor + wep, and just need to pluck 3 feathers

untold furnace
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you've got all those crystals by farming mobs or riding the train ?

spice comet
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For eureka u want train

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Yep

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I cant grind like that

untold furnace
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and then converting the excess anemos crystals you had ?

spice comet
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I went more insane trying to do chains 1-3 and tried it lvl 10

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Lasted 5 minutes before i said nope

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I only do train

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I have almost 2 stacks 999 anemos crystals

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And my +2 wep

untold furnace
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damn

spice comet
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So thats 2000 * 3 avg, since rng is 2-5

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So theres ur armor

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Train u rly want to focus on knowing how to move the danger zones

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Idk most of my pt experience is each man for themselves

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So at lvl 6 or so, my pt mems could tele to like ziz while i had to ninja there as rdm, got rly good at never grabbing aggro, if i do die i try to do so super close to train

steep iris
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๐Ÿ‘€

spice comet
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So pt can res or a nice rando will

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So like i aggro something i sprint towards train, make sure body ends up near ppl

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:V train pt means lvls dont matter, which is nice i guess since then u can just do fates, poke boss a few times to count n be ded most of the time while ur pt mems at higher lvls do real dmg

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Long explanation but yea thats y i dont get y ppl try chaining when trains rain crystal, exp, boxes ๐Ÿ‘€

untold furnace
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yeah I know that's pretty easy, I was just trying ti chain as apparently it can be more effective, and at least you're doing something

spice comet
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The most effective is following train, but u take ur group away and grind elsewhere closeby

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So let other ppl spawn fate n u go over when they do

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I like eating and taking bio breaks, paissasquint also ur tank has to know what theyre doing, continuous pts r easier when u can grab anyone regardless of class

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Like i have 3 hrs, i can pick up ppl outside, they drop, i just pick up more till my 3 hrs r done, idc their class, we had a pt of 4 heals 4 rdm, still exp cause we got a good train going

mighty lantern
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I like to sit a safe distance away and /moonlift until the train spawns the target

half surge
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has anyone pugged o7s? i want to know what ccw/vertical means

steep iris
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Counter clockwise biblio

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Vertical virus

half surge
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sweet, thanks

opaque temple
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Anyone farm anemos, lockboxes at 20 and do something else than just going to all the fates?

mighty lantern
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No?

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Fates are pretty much the farm.

opaque temple
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Still looking to get strider boots and scorpion harness, do I just join whatever party and I won't mess up exp for them?

mighty lantern
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Yep.

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Besides, you need specific fates for those.

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Strider and Serket, respectively.

scenic patrol
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CCW and Vertical are the default strats as far as I noticed

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For O7S

dull radish
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Generally yeah, at least for pugs

scenic patrol
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Same for my static

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Although speed will have the ranged do 3 pads

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With sprint

dull radish
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We'll probably be swapping to partial uptime for panels

scenic patrol
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But speed is silly

dull radish
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Where a tank breaks away for 3rd panel and I stay on 2nd

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But we do horizontal virus and it's cozy <3

unreal flax
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Oh caster uptime. I see

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I'm like, "What are you talking about crazy person?"

dull radish
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Well it'll be where melee stay on the one panel

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And the healers and BRD get three panels

unreal flax
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Oshit

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yeah, you're scaring me

dull radish
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It's nice

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And not really hard to do

unreal flax
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I mean, it sounds like it makes sense, but whew

dull radish
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Timing isn't super tight either

stable basin
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Where, the ranged go towards the corners and the melee try to stay near the boss?

dull radish
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Can make it without sprint

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Nah like

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For biblio panels

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Boss stays at N panel with melee and MT

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Ranged and healers get other three panels

stable basin
dull radish
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But with BLM you don't move to third panel

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OT breaks away for that last one

scenic patrol
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So BLM does two panels?

unreal flax
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Yeah

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That's what it sounds like to me

dull radish
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Yeah

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Like I'll go W to S and stay

scenic patrol
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You use Manipulation for that?

spice comet
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๐Ÿ‘€ the better too hard for pug strats

dull radish
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No

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Can't AM with that

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Takes too long

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Need to tag panels asap

scenic patrol
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Not Lines TP as well?

dull radish
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To let the rest move on

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Nah

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But I only need swift

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Which is fine

scenic patrol
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So you use instant casts during it, okay

dull radish
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For early biblio I'll have swift, late biblio I have triple

unreal flax
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Triplecast. Do you use that on CD or when necessary?

dull radish
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Yeah

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Goes without saying that this is only first phase though

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Later one doesn't work so well with that radar thing

scenic patrol
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Which pattern is better for speed?

unreal flax
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Yeah, there's only enough time for two panels per squad

dull radish
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The one where you never see ultros final phase

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The one we never get

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I don't remember which that starts with

spice comet
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Monk

dull radish
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Ultros sucks because forced downtime

unreal flax
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Yeah, it looks like Dadaluma

spice comet
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Yep

unreal flax
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OH GOD. I GET IT NOW

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I've been looking at this timeline all wrong, but I understand now

scenic patrol
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Brit, want to make O7S easier?

unreal flax
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In the timeline, there are two columns. First phase + Virus, then final phase. In the middle of the final phase, there's a section with it's own timeline where you can get either of the two options. BUT NOW I UNDERSTAND IT

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I always want to make fights easier. Hit me

dull radish
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There's another cozy image for reference, lemme find it

scenic patrol
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Timeline plugin for O7s

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Will alert you of mechs 5 seconds ahead

unreal flax
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Alright so, I was going to install that, but the only information I could find on setting it up requires almost as much work as the fight itself lmao

scenic patrol
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I could help you set it up

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But we need voice

woeful prawn
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its not so bad

unreal flax
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THAT image. <3 I know that image!

woeful prawn
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ultros first = ultros first after virus

spice comet
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

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Cozy ye

woeful prawn
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airforce first = airforce first after virus

dull radish
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I think this week we're probably working a bit on 7 after weeklies, maybe get a bit better parse

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Unless we want to work on galaxy brain forsaken 2 strats

unreal flax
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I have my lil ACT custom triggers and they're pretty nice, but ink is kinda late. I ended up with a set of Triggernometry triggers and that one is pretty nice cuz Ink is on time with it. Ink is the pug killer outside of Virus, as far as I've noticed

spice comet
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Is that the cross strat tsun was mentioning? Wats galaxy brain strat?

woeful prawn
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ultros first usually kills the burn target

dull radish
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No

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Sec

unreal flax
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My favorite thing is when I'm the only person who dies to Ink and everyone else is at full HP or near full lol

woeful prawn
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and if i've used my swiftcast that i use there for swiftcast largesse succor

dull radish
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Melee uptime

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Forsaken 2

scenic patrol
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Use second wind if you are not topped

woeful prawn
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ok fuck

dull radish
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We had this idea and did some testing

woeful prawn
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thats 80% more brain than the pugstrat i saw

unreal flax
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No, I mean I take two inks, but no one else does.

dull radish
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And then static member found a clip for it

woeful prawn
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my pugs sometimes do half of this strat

spice comet
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๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€

woeful prawn
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i dont think they do the last 2 or 3 puddles like that for sick uptime

spice comet
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Wut the fuq that strat

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Its everywhere!

unreal flax
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Nah bro. That strat is megamind as fuck. Never gonna do

woeful prawn
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its easy

spice comet
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Holy shit paissasquint

dull radish
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Ranged and healer pairs

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For towers

woeful prawn
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SE -> N -> SW

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and then chase the boss

dull radish
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If prox maker then you have tanks come down to soak close tower

spice comet
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The aoe like ran into the tower

dull radish
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Also enjoy triple melee 2nd forsaken:

spice comet
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Thats some sick baits

woeful prawn
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oh fuck right

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thats why they only did first 3 puddles like that

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cause theres a 4 dps soak top

unreal flax
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Wait, they're Korean. How are they doing our content? Are they... ON JP SERVERS????

spice comet
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Prob jp

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Damnnn

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Triple melee paissasquint

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This feels like a wipefest but now im curious too ๐Ÿ’ฆ ๐Ÿ’ฆ

woeful prawn
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this week's clear was with a 4 death whm

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my fucking asspussy

unreal flax
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MNK POV
Opens with Shoulder Tackle

What meme is this?

scenic patrol
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Okay, that strat is fucking galaxy brain indeed

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Holy shit

dull radish
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We were apprehensive about uptime strat because prox marker is on random dps, and they also get the stack marker

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So needs some tank adjustment if a ranged gets it

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Otherwise super cozy if it's either melee

unreal flax
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OOOOH okay, I see how Trines work. Watching this, Gefka seems much easier than Guardian.

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But, I'm still above 50%, so who knows what happens

scenic patrol
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God Kefka seems like such a fun fight

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Tbh

dull radish
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It is

unreal flax
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So, help me understand what I'm seeing. First Forsaken is Madheads? Second is the meteor shit?

dull radish
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Cozy uptime fight

woeful prawn
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first forsaken is preshield and heal everyone to 100%

scenic patrol
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3rd is with the confusion/sleep

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Iirc

woeful prawn
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and then burst aoe after debuff expires and eat skulls. repeat once then go to light mode

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and then 3rd has knockback tower and confuse tower + 1 100% preheal and shield with skulls

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and 4th repeats 3rd -> 5x chaincast ultima -> enrage

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light phases are usually chillmode for everyone except tanks

scenic patrol
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Each Ultima does more damage than the previous one

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Hehe

woeful prawn
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theres still damage going out but its just autoattacks and generic aoe/party damage in non-bursty fashion

scenic patrol
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During light?

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Yeah it seems so

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Just the 3 tank buster shuffle makes me anxious

woeful prawn
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the wings -> embrace -> hyperdrive?

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that can go fuck itself

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especially since the OT doesnt pop strong cooldown

dull radish
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I wish we would get center big trine more often

unreal flax
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WAIT A MINUTE. What are those beams on the players at the end of that video? Are those more fucking A12S puddles?

woeful prawn
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all dps or heal/tanks get marked with confuse or sleep

scenic patrol
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Confuse + damage up

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So if someone gets to another the one with the confuse will murder him

woeful prawn
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oh near the very end?

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those tethers are a half roomwide knockback and minor damage

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and the one set just before boss died are confuse/sleep

scenic patrol
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I think he talks about Faustka Graven

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With the puddles + rocks

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Thingie

woeful prawn
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oh. yeah

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i dont understand why gravity puddles needs to be 2 player soaked it doesnt make sense for me intuitively

spice comet
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its just soak and move

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i dont think its the same as a12s, similar, but i nvr did savage

scenic patrol
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Savage in general, or until now?

dull radish
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A12S puddles were a very different thing

spice comet
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a12s savage

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a12n i remember had puddles and tether, just kinda ran like headless chickens while he poops the puddles on u

scenic patrol
#

I miss Alexander NM

#

It was a fun raid

#

Especially Creator

dull radish
#

A12S you had those communion puddles and also had to soak repentance puddles one at a time

#

all while the boss does a sacrament at the same time

spice comet
#

oh o-o yea......kefka was a lot easier

#

jesus that sounds like hell, i forgot sacrament

dull radish
#

the repentance puddles themselves weren't bad

#

but the communion puddles were spooky and obnoxious

#

did like 32k/tick there if you got the bleed

#

which is even a lot considering current HP haha

spice comet
#

o-o so ur just.....ded

#

lol

dull radish
#

yeah

#

dunno why they had to overkill so much

#

but they did

spice comet
#

its like gravity puddles

#

"not ded enough, gotta bleed, make them extra ded"

unreal flax
#

OH YEAH, can't upload images in this room. RIP. The tethers I'm talking about are thin yellow lines going to it looks like all players from the statue.

dull radish
#

yeah, it happens in both regular kefka and god kefka

#

what happens to you varies if you're tethered to the left of the statue, or the right

#

as well as which part of the fight it is

unreal flax
#

OOOOH, so it's like the Argath mechanics where each person has their own version of the mechanic to handle?

glossy musk
#

can't upload images in the room that would actually benefit from uploading images of mechanics/strats

#

@novel sun

novel sun
#

You.. should be able to?

#

Wait

glossy musk
#

Nope

novel sun
#

Huh

high ether
#

aenea probably forgot to add it

scenic patrol
#

Aye, I can't upload

sage totem
#

Fixed

glossy musk
#

thanks boo

dull radish
#

cozy cross strat for kekfa heads <3

woeful prawn
#

yeah its pretty nice

#

you just park inside his theoretical asshole as tankheal and catch all the heals for free

lyric summit
#

BLM approved

dull radish
#

definitely <3

pure yoke
#

@dull radish have you seen

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the A12S strat for 2nd Forsaken

dull radish
#

I uh

#

haven't seen that one

#

we had the idea to pair a ranged dps and a healer on each side

#

make it a bit less chaotic as heck

spice comet
#

thats something ๐Ÿ‘€ โ—

lyric summit
#

is that for like tank uptime lmao

#

all uptime

#

Jeez

dull radish
#

melee uptime mostly, but also tanks

#

since standard strat, boss moves south partway through while dps take north tower

opaque tide
#

what do tanks usually meld? I heard its bad but I have a burning need to meld full tenacity

dull radish
#

STR first slot for accessories, DH otherwise if not WAR, Crit if WAR

#

WAR even has more priority for det over DH because of how IR works now

opaque tide
#

so if i'm sharing gear between DRK and WAR what would I probably meld?

true lark
#

crit

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STR first slot acc of course

scenic patrol
#

Do WAR melds regardless if you do WAR/DRK

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Crit>Det>SkS>Ten>=DH

wet stag
#

Tenacity is ok

#

But Det is better

unreal wolf
#

Those are some nice strat gifs

hybrid rapids
#

HELP

#

i forgot how to identify the

#

small ghost

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in 5s

#

5s is harder than 8s !!

#

those fog is annoying

dull radish
#

tank and healer ghosts come out first, tank is huge, healer is small

#

dps ones come out later

#

look for first sets to spawn and grab a smaller one

hybrid rapids
#

was it? didn't realized

dull radish
#

yeah

#

dps ones are also mid-sized and red, but yeah, hard to see in the fog

hybrid rapids
#

thanks !

#

i know the colors

#

but yea, hard to see in fog

dull radish
#

yeah I used to have problems with that too

hybrid rapids
#

and DPS ghost also kinda small

dull radish
#

but when I realized they spawn at different times, much easier

#

though now we just WAR skip

hybrid rapids
#

i will take alert on that today !

dull radish
#

much to our WAR's chagrin haha

hybrid rapids
#

oh ya...that work too

#

but PUGs don't know how to skip yet

dull radish
#

it's honestly easier sometimes in pugs to do than rely on people to grab correct ghosts and do it properly

#

WAR just has to save IR for ghost

#

and it makes it easy

hybrid rapids
#

i can't tell them what to do since it isn't my party haha

dull radish
#

yeah fair enough

hybrid rapids
#

so have to do the proper way

#

identify the ghost

#

i will take note of spawn sequence today !

#

thanks again

dull radish
#

happy to help <3

woeful prawn
#

or just bully them into it

#

unless the tank is on ps4

bronze rover
#

!pazuzu

storm frostBOT
#
Information

Next possible Pazuzu spawn (Gales Weather) found in 4 windows at 8:00am Eorzean time or in 81.04 Earth Minutes. This window does not occur at night and Shadow Wraith will have to be killed at night before this window begins. This does not take into account per instance whether spawn is possible.

pure yoke
#

Hi

hybrid rapids
#

Hello

true lark
#

hello

pure yoke
#

what to do tonight

hybrid rapids
#

Hi lyra

#

do you have proper small trine diagram?

#

Mug, do weekly reset farm...

true lark
#

i dont have an exact one but

hybrid rapids
#

I didn't remember the pattern, but just do 3-1

true lark
#

i have

#

the pattern

hybrid rapids
#

wow

true lark
#

lemme go find it

hybrid rapids
#

thanks senpai

#

fixed

hybrid rapids
#

7?

#

means 1 will have 3 trine?

true lark
#

small trine always will be like that

#

yes

hybrid rapids
#

ahh

true lark
#

the orientation is random

#

and how they fall is random

hybrid rapids
#

but always in 7?

#

means any of them might have 3?

true lark
#

but always like that

#

yes

hybrid rapids
#

thanks

#

that explained

true lark
#

ideally you do a 3 > 1 but you can also do a 3 > 2 or 2 > 1 with this knowledge

hybrid rapids
#

yea, 3->2 or 2->1 usually in TA or parse run

#

3->1 i do for farm only

true lark
#

just stand in the middle of a vertex, away from it and move in once it explodes

hybrid rapids
#

must with sprint right?

true lark
#

i play nin so idk

#

maybe you need it for other jobs

hybrid rapids
#

rip

true lark
#

i dont

hybrid rapids
#

idk, i just use sprint

true lark
#

i wish i could discern how they fell or what orientation they spawn in

#

but its all beenr andom

hybrid rapids
#

yea, that would be nice to know if there're some fixed pattern

scenic patrol
#

Only fixed pattern it seems is big trine

#

Sadly

hybrid rapids
#

RNG is hard

#

give me 3rd in center thx

true lark
#

big trine orientation is still random

hybrid rapids
#

and big trine without small in center

scenic patrol
#

Big trine without small is the easiest

hybrid rapids
#

and all past numbered

dull radish
#

Your futures are numbered, and your pasts forgotten

hybrid rapids
#

oh...right

#

only memorized future and past

#

past forgotten

spring dock
#

kefka dropped his bag of Doritos

unreal flax
#

Took my NIN into savage for the first time. Got a HOT 9th percentile clear in O6S lmao.

#

I don't know that fuckin fight on NIN.

#

I don't know any fight on NIN.

#

Also, missed two trick attempts because lag didn't let the skill activate before the window closed.

pure yoke
#

I hate NIN t oo

hybrid rapids
#

stop lying

#

you want that trick attack

pure yoke
#

I mean

#

I hate playing NIN

unique wolf
pure yoke
hybrid rapids
#

re-post

#

angery asian

zinc vortex
#

playing inja is suffering

#

arthars is my favorite angry asian man

unique wolf
#

playing ninja is suffering for most people because they are too bad at it to play it well

pure yoke
#

that is how I feel

boreal edge
#

ninja isnt that bad

#

funny how i play ninja better than mch

blazing pelican
#

finally, orange

dull radish
#

congrats <3

untold oyster
#

Maybe one day I'll get orange for this tier

sullen sable
#

Grats on orange blobmorning

wet stag
hybrid rapids
#

9.1%

#

oh

#

@dull radish thanks for the tips just now, it work !

#

just look at the first 4 spawn

dull radish
#

Nice, glad to hear it <3

stable basin
#

Can anyone tell em how to level peoplewhen they are level 1 in Eureka and I'm level 18. Just done Sabo NM and we only got 200 EXP. x.x

#

me*

hybrid rapids
#

@stable basin help em spawn lower level NM

#

all NM has exp scale of level

spice comet
#

Yea just 2 person mount with them

hybrid rapids
#

sabo NM max cap on 2480

#

if you're only level 1, so the scale is 200 exp

#

that's correct

spice comet
#

Make their life easier to go to spawned nms and be a res class so u can always res them

hybrid rapids
#

yea, the level gaps is too huge

spice comet
#

200 is about right

#

For lvl 1

hybrid rapids
#

they won't gains any exp if you kill monster lower than 4 of your level

spice comet
#

Yea grindin is pointless u should just spawn lower lvl nms for them

hybrid rapids
#

i think another easier way is party with one of them

#

and kill monster EL 16~18

spice comet
#

? Does it work?

hybrid rapids
#

yeaa

spice comet
#

I tried lvl 11 and 1

#

We got 0 exp killing wolves

#

I mean 11 did

hybrid rapids
#

wolves is 9?

#

hmm

spice comet
#

Its 9

hybrid rapids
#

idk how it works

#

try 11 or 10?

spice comet
#

I think it was lvl cap, nm was easier

hybrid rapids
#

i saw people been leveling like that

#

but i never tried myself

spice comet
#

Party of 2 meant soloing spawn for lower nms is very easy for higher lvl

#

If gap is +-5 it has exp

hybrid rapids
#

true

#

the way I helped my friends was triggering those NMs

spice comet
#

So just have higher lvl fight like seabishops

hybrid rapids
#

still

spice comet
#

They kil them 1 hit, party of 2 means fast spawn

hybrid rapids
#

level 1 capped at 200 exp on sabo

#

hahahahaa

spice comet
#

LOL u need 1k to lvl

stable basin
#

Tsun, I'm level 18.

spice comet
#

So 200 is prob right

stable basin
#
  1. and only got 200exp.
hybrid rapids
#

huh

stable basin
#

Yeah

spice comet
#

Oh did u friend get 200

#

Tho

stable basin
#

They did as well.

hybrid rapids
#

i didn't knew this

spice comet
#

Thats 200/1k

hybrid rapids
#

so your exp scaled with them as well?

spice comet
#

Thats nornal nm exp

hybrid rapids
#

omg

stable basin
#

yes

hybrid rapids
#

it's easier to let them level themselves then

spice comet
#

Since two ppl too

hybrid rapids
#

by killing EL 3~4 monster

spice comet
#

U prob need more ppl for contribution

stable basin
#

and honestly, without level 1s, i usually get 2k+ on sabo

hybrid rapids
#

2480

#

yes

spice comet
#

Ur lvl 1 is basically a leech

#

They cant do shit

hybrid rapids
#

did you had gold medal?

spice comet
#

U have to solo that gold

hybrid rapids
#

sabo kill

stable basin
#

gold yes

spice comet
#

Then yea its the lvl diff

hybrid rapids
#

TIL there's a penalty

#

to carry

spice comet
#

Way too high

#

Lvl 11 and 1 was alrdy penalty but in return

#

A lvl 18 can solo fates

hybrid rapids
#

yea, it will slower your own leveling progress as well

#

imagine killing a NM 19

spice comet
#

U wont be gaining exp but this is faster for ur friend

hybrid rapids
#

but you gains only 300 exp

spice comet
#

Because u spawn low fates for them

#

And then kill for them

#

Overall friend gained more, the fates r fast when u one shot monsters to spawn it

#

If they solo grind with full group lvl 1 it take more time for them to spawn same fates

stable basin
#

ty Tsun and Ravin for info

#

Also, I don't know if you guys knew this either. But with that Gold on Sabo, I sitll didn't get any lootboxes or Anemos Crystals. x.x

spice comet
#

Nope u lvl is too high probably

stable basin
#

Level difference factor for even that?

spice comet
#

But did ur friend

#

Is the real question

stable basin
#

Asking.

spice comet
#

If no then TIL lvl difference makes leeching hard

glossy musk
#

Yes

#

level difference affects exp, lootboxes, etc

lyric summit
#

lootboxes and crystals are the same from each fate at all levels (at which you can get fate drops, which is [fate level]-1)

#

and exp only scales down for lower levels but stays the same when you're above fate level

spice comet
#

Rip the lootbox if so

#

The lvl 18 got no box or crystal with a lvl 1 pt mem

#

On sabo

lyric summit
#

no idea how it works in a party tbh

spice comet
#

Idk either first time hearing that

woeful prawn
#

pazu spawn is wrong

#

wraiths just need night time and pazu just needs gales and will pop if enough wraiths are killed pre-gales

hybrid rapids
#

call him pazuzu

#

he died for us

#

at least remember his name

#

pazuzu

woeful prawn
#

poz daddy

hybrid rapids
#

anyway, you're right

#

last update was march 16

woeful prawn
#

oh

hybrid rapids
#

at least he tried

#

pazuzu will drop altar too

stable basin
#

is Altar 100% drop or?

hybrid rapids
#

nope

#

kinda low

#

but i have no idea

#

how ayami so lucky with it

stable basin
#

and i take it it also depends on what you get in terms fo rank. (gold, bronze, etc)

hybrid rapids
#

you will only get reward from pazuzu if you're EL 19/20

#

idk

#

I never had any lower than gold

spice comet
#

19/20 gold yea

#

Got my feathers, yea u just need night it will go gales next time we killed waiths night with shower,pazu up by 8 ez time

hybrid rapids
#

you can check from garland tool info of weather forecast in eureka land

#

or if you're lazy

#

just !pazuzu

stable basin
#

He finally responed. lol @spice comet XD

#

No Lootboxes. But he did get Anemos Crystals.

spice comet
#

๐Ÿ‘€

#

Interesting so he was semi penalized too

stable basin
#

yeah

#

12 Anemos Crystals he said.

#

Which is good at level 1. imo x.x

spice comet
#

Its not bad just no box

stable basin
#

Anyone know either the stat weights or better yet, the BiS list for DRK?

dull radish
#

Copy-paste:

#

Best in Slot - 4.2 Edition
Note - These builds are at optimal play, and simulated with a Heavensward meta speedrun composition. Melds are technically still your discretion. Direct Hit and Critical Hit are within 0-10 dps of each other depending on the gearset. Math Wizards recommend DHit. As always, pick the speed you are most comfortable with, and have fun! - Note - actual numbers are larger than this thanks to wDMG buffs, etc.

Slowboye, 2.42 GCD, 2.17 Blood Weapon
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/14X7F

Fastboye, 2.37 GCD, 2.13 Blood Weapon
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/14X38

Sanicboye, 2.33 GCD, 2.10 Blood Weapon
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/14X8S

opaque tide
#

i'm so pissed with 5s ugh

#

like every week I forget to save my AOE before add phase

#

god

#

that run would have easily been purple had I remembered

#

I hate that so much because is counterintuitive to how you play SMN

#

in literally every other fight in the game you use everything oN CD and thats like the one time you DONT want to use stuff on CD

#

its so hard to remember for some reason

#

think because i'm used to the fight on RDM mostly and it doesn't matter when adds spawn your aoe rotation is the same

#

ugh

#

I remembered to save my shit one week for add phase and ended add phase at 6.1k dps. Every other week I forget I end add phase at 5k. Padding on adds makes so much of that fight

#

ugh

worthy vigil
#

Does Pazuzu drop 1 feather at a time?

dull radish
#

3 for gold contribution

unique wolf
#

why does the monk relic look so bad

steep iris
#

yeah ๐Ÿคข

#

Also make whm and pld relic shine brighter/have better colors pls

topaz wolf
#

is the relic armor for your class or in general for types of dps

heavy mist
#

class

#

it uses the i290 stuff u get from the class quest

mighty shale
#

it will change look next step thankfully @unique wolf

#

i don't think they can do much with relic weapons

unique wolf
tiny kraken
wet stag
#

Do you do savage?

tiny kraken
#

Right now no,

wet stag
#

If you dont your the mendacity chest and legs are marginally better than the anemos ones

#

But not super worth

#

Just cap mendacity each week

tiny kraken
#

okies.. will the current gear i have be sufficient in doing savage? :o

dull radish
#

absolutely

scenic patrol
#

you can do savage with even less gear

#

your gear is better than what World First had when they did Kefka

tiny kraken
#

ah okay thankies o/

true lark
#

Powerful wheelchair boys

steep iris
#

--==๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅโ™ฟ

zinc vortex
#

me

untold furnace
#

is it a good idea to dive straight into deltascape savage once reaching i340 ?

#

or is it really hard to clear stuff and it's better to wait to get a bit more gear ?

heavy mist
#

i mean youll probably be fine

#

o1s is a joke

#

o2s and o3s watch a vid

#

o4s might take some practice

#

its pretty easy especially with echo

steady pebble
#

that hard part would be finding a group for deltascape savage

heavy mist
#

indeed

untold furnace
#

oh shit I meant sigmascape sorry

heavy mist
#

oh

#

u could probably do o5s and o6s at i340

untold furnace
#

my bad I keep confusing between the two

heavy mist
#

but depends on if PF people will let u do that

#

since a lot of them have min ilevel

untold furnace
#

yeah I guess that would be hard to do on PF

heavy mist
#

still doable

untold furnace
#

I guess I should just start looking for a static, are there other ways I can look into other than actual PF people are making for recruiting for their static ?

heavy mist
#

theres discord channels

untold furnace
#

like some kind of forum or subreddit

#

oh yup there's one indeed

steady pebble
heavy mist
#

ill PM u a discord

untold furnace
#

I'm gonna have a look in there

heavy mist
#

there is that too

untold furnace
#

what do people mean by "prog", "reprog" and "midcore" ?

wet stag
#

Prog is progression

#

Learning a fight, trying to get to enrage or clear

#

I've never heard reprog in my life

#

Midcore is in-between casual and hardcore

untold furnace
#

thanks, but what exactly is meant by midcore like I guess hardcore would be raiding every day until clear, what is the "definition" of midcore on this game ?

scenic patrol
wet stag
#

That idk tbh

#

I joined a casual static

untold furnace
#

yeah I think I'll have the most chances in there and in the/r/FFXIVRECRUITMENT suv

wet stag
#

2hours 3 days a week

#

Had a friend who joined a midcore static that was 2 hours 4 days a week

untold furnace
#

okay, I guessed that was precisely defined as I see everyone using that midcore thing

scenic patrol
#

Generally midcore is around 6 to 10 hours a week

#

With above certain skill level

untold furnace
#

although I might reconsider looking for a static to wait a bit lol

paper torrent
#

Midcore could also refer wanting to improve parses to a certain point

untold furnace
#

I just feel really bad right now, I've been playing DRK for about 500 hours and I've just discovered I can use blackest night on other people

paper torrent
#

Like not speed clear levels of busting ass but nice comfy logs level

pure yoke
#

๐Ÿ‘€

untold furnace
#

feelsbad

heavy mist
#

that is indeed

#

a FeelsBad

zinc vortex
#

@paper torrent 3k parse when

junior basin
#

When he's i400

paper torrent
#

@zinc vortex when i get laid

#

So never

zinc vortex
#

๐Ÿ˜”

pure yoke
unreal lance
#

Getting laid is overrated

zinc vortex
#

thanks anime girl avatar

pure yoke
#

Hi gumps

zinc vortex
#

im sure you know

pure yoke
red ibex
#

do dots tick when clown goes untargetable

wet stag
#

No

red ibex
#

o ok

#

ive been refreshing them always when graven image started to cast

#

now i dont have to

woeful prawn
#

i heard it still procs bard skills with dots but doesnt deal boss damage at all

red ibex
#

ya i play nin so i can be using aeolian or armor crush

#

gotta whore all the potency i can get

pure yoke
#

Doing it on bard is useful

#

So you could just IJ it

#

Rather than reapply dots manually

#

I believe only boss this tier that dots does damage on while untargetable is phantom train

#

That's it

final pine
#

Is it known what the cooldown on Pazuzu is? 2 hours?

hybrid rapids
#

1

pale sun
#

does anyone know if any of the anemos relic gear count for BiS at all?

steady pebble
#

highly doubtful

#

5 assured slots do not really put it up to stack against 370 gear

true lark
#

No

pale sun
#

ok, just thought id ask

boreal edge
#

depends on stats and certain jobs

#

brd mendacity chest is trash

#

for example

#

even if i370

heavy mist
#

might be useful for ultimate

#

idk tho

stable basin
#

What do you tanks meld?

brave maple
#

Crit -> Det for WAR, idk about PLD and DRK

dull radish
#

dh > crit > det for non-WAR

brave maple
#

of course this is after you've hit your desired Sks threshold

dull radish
#

yeah

brave maple
#

Just took a peak at the WAR channels in The Balance

#

The Eureka Relic is better than the 360 Tome Axe XD

dull radish
#

yeah that tome axe is pretty awful

brave maple
#

just like the MCH gun XD

#

Actually I should run the dmg sim on it and see

stable basin
#

I melded DH on my left side

#

And strength on the right

#

As DRK

#

Hope I didn't fuck up too much?

woeful prawn
#

you gucc

stable basin
#

But say you cap dh and crit on a piece, what then

brave maple
#

Are you at your Sks threshold?

stable basin
#

What's that

brave maple
#

Almost every job in the game has ideal Skill Speed thresholds that it operates best at

#

ie, your GCD

#

Most jobs have multiple ones

spice comet
#

For war think they differ

brave maple
#

Well, DRK also has BW

stable basin
#

Do you think there is one for DRK OT?

spice comet
#

I mean for melds

brave maple
#

yah

#

but I know there are three Sks thesholds for DRK, my Dark Knight was talking about it last night

stable basin
#

Yeah I am just looking at the melds atm I cba with min maxing the gear tho

spice comet
#

R u a drk?

brave maple
#

Me?

spice comet
#

Nah person asking

#

Theres like 3 builds on the drk doc i have if u want it

brave maple
#

[10:15 AM] Marrthamel: I melded DH on my left side
[10:15 AM] Marrthamel: And strength on the right
[10:15 AM] Marrthamel: As DRK

#

I think thats a yes ๐Ÿ˜›

spice comet
#

paissasquint ๐Ÿ‘Œ

stable basin
#

Ah

#

I am trying to get into it

spice comet
#

So much crap took a sec to find :V

brave maple
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we should just have the latest Job guides pinned

spice comet
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Theres like 3 diff meld/builds depending on wut ur doing

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Yea idk y we dont

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Guess thats balances job

stable basin
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But

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Where in that guide

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Do they mention melds etc

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Or am I blind

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Nvm

spice comet
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paissasquint ๐Ÿ‘Œ

stable basin
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DH/Crit > Det > Sks

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But strength? That's not even mentioned

brave maple
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Once you're at the Sks threshold you want

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You can't overmeld STR

stable basin
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So I shouldn't meld STR?

shadow pollen
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Never

untold oyster
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He's a tank

brave maple
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yah he needs to

untold oyster
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He needs to meld str on right side

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For left side stuff is where that meld priority matters

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But accessories are always str

spice comet
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Ur first slot is str

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Thats all

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The guides talking about substats iirc

wet stag
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drk has 3 gcd speeds

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at bis

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2.42, 2.38, 2.33

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theyre all pretty even assuming perfect play

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just use whichever

stable basin
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Aah ok

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Thanks everyone!

tiny kraken
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what are SAMs openers and rotation as of late?

lyric summit
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queen quartz
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That first line lol

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Poor SAMs

paper torrent
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Tfw monk rn is literally better

pure yoke
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I remember back in 4.0

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People demanded that rdm and sam should be nerfed

paper torrent
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THEIR POTENCY IS SO HIGH REEEEE

queen quartz
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I feel like sometimes maybe the reddit community can be a bit kneejerk and jump on something before they have all the information.

unique wolf
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samurai bloblul

pure yoke
stable basin
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Is there a way to boost ppl in Eureka as a lv 20?

mighty shale
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my friendships ended cause i said "i can't wait for every job to outperform samurai"

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people have talked about taking friends into eureka and killing mobs 9+ lvls higher

hybrid rapids
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@buoyant wave why you hate SAM

mighty shale
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i don't know if it will work but you can try it

hybrid rapids
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๐Ÿ˜–

brave maple
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I remember someone in my ex-FC berating me because I was RDM at 4.0 launch and he was convinced that SAM with their DPS would become meta

hybrid rapids
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think samguide we have now is older one?

mighty shale
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it was wild that so many people thought it would be meta

pure yoke
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At the time people though dragoon was really awful

brave maple
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and now, RDM is arguably more useful than SAM

pure yoke
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RDM is more useful

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Always have been

brave maple
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Naw man, I mained BRD in ARR and MCH in HW/SB

mighty shale
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yeah

brave maple
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DRG has always been A+ in my book

mighty shale
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drg is pretty essential for ranged dps

brave maple
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I just can't play it well to save my life XD

pure yoke
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Back in 4.0

mighty shale
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i didn't try drg until 4.2 so i don't know what issues people had with it

pure yoke
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No one wanted a dragoon

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Until deltascape savage came out

brave maple
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I've refused to join statics because they didn't have a DRG

pure yoke
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Then everyone wanted to suck drg dick

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But they all swapped to sam

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So there was a bit of a shortage of drg

mighty shale
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it's ok, a lot of people flooded the samurai train

brave maple
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Keep in mind I was forced to RDM for the front end of Deltascape

mighty shale
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i don't think other jobs were short though

brave maple
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Because I was the only one in my static at the time that showed any interest in it and "MCH sucked"

pure yoke
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When I applied for a new static in week 8

brave maple
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then get cut from the static because I'm not a Blue level RDM

pure yoke
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I literally gotten four replies in an hour

brave maple
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hmmmmm

pure yoke
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As a dragoon

brave maple
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switch back to MCH, Blue parses roll in ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

pure yoke
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So I assume dragoons were pretty uncommon in early deltascape

hybrid rapids
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no, people just want to play new job

brave maple
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which is wierd

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because I haven't remembered a time when DRG wasn't meta

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Same with NIN

mighty shale
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i leveled samurai just because i play melee dps and midare felt very underwhelming to me

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the whole job felt underwhelming

brave maple
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I levelled them all because story

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which, the SAM story was pretty good

pure yoke
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No one liked dragoon in susano/lakshmi

brave maple
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but I prefer Monk to SAM when it comes to Striking (and Melee in general)

mighty shale
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i heard that it was hell for drg in both fights

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i love monk

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it's the one job that keeps me wanting to get better

pure yoke
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I feel pretty fine being a one trick pony

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I do want to try to get good at mch

brave maple
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tfw you save GL3 at the last second

mighty shale
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i want to play drg in savage but i hate hearing the "if we had a drg" talk when nobody wants to try to better themselves first

brave maple
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I mean

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for MCH, losing a DRG is something like %6 or a 400 DPS lose off the top

mighty shale
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it is, yeah

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i want a more optimized setting before i start playing drg