endgame-lounge

[pure yoke]

if your group is willing to change

[hybrid rapids]

yea, tiff is better

[drowsy pebble]

wait he's not even soaking the tower

[pure yoke]

you can max melee soak tower too

if you are soaking it

@hybrid rapids https://clips.twitch.tv/CredulousTransparentTildeKreygasm

[drowsy pebble]

with cross tethers then the skull is too close to people in the center

[pure yoke]

try this next time for trines

[hybrid rapids]

yea, video is easier to explain

also practice is a must

[pure yoke]

you strafe to your left/right

depending on what you have

[azure hill]

Anyone know if Eureka counts towards FC credits?

I'm pretty sure PotD did

[woeful prawn]

do any of these classes need pants from o7s or can i start buying twines with pages
war, sch, smn

[sullen sable]

Pants are decent on sch, I think?

Guess it depends how much piety you want

[worthy mirage]

tank pants are BiS from o7

[dull radish]

At the very least, SMN BiS pants are tome

[spice comet]

Sch pants r nice

It beats tomes (also looks sleek)

[eternal minnow]

SMN has no concrete bis thus far I think.....

I'm following this: https://nemekh.s-ul.eu/c5YcpUZi

[woeful prawn]

457 ss

[dull radish]

yeah, it's not concrete, but at this point pretty close to it

[woeful prawn]

if ruin iii still had casttime i would be iffy on this but this looks real sexy

warrior pants are crit big det so im definetely gonna save pages

[glossy basalt]

why the fuck

do practice parties lock out classes

like damn wtf

[dull radish]

people are dumb

for the most part

in some cases it can make sense

[scenic patrol]

only locking out dupes

tbh

[woeful prawn]

first entry i take any comp except maybe whm whm

[pure yoke]

I'll lock you out

[scenic patrol]

kinky

[dull radish]

some fights you really don't want triple melee for pug

[woeful prawn]

and then you have bullshit like o7s where you realllllly dont want to see a drk

[dull radish]

and you probably also want BRD or MCH for refresh

[scenic patrol]

I don't see a problem with DRK tanking O7S

as OT anyhow

[woeful prawn]

burn

[scenic patrol]

because healers want to rely on PLD Cover shit?

[unreal flax]

What's wrong with DRK and burn?

[woeful prawn]

yeah

[dull radish]

PLD covering it makes it cozy

but shouldn't be really needed, just is nice to have

[scenic patrol]

the DRK can TBN the DPS for extra time

6K shield is nice

[dull radish]

also, did you know, you can cover temporary misdirection, and the covered person doesn't get it?

[unreal flax]

WHAT

WHAT THE FUCK WHAT

[dull radish]

yeah

[woeful prawn]

first burn if you get knockback instead of biblio that's a death unless you spam gcd heal

[dull radish]

I had prey during virus this week and the PLD decided to use cover for that one, but used it too late

I got the bleed, he got my temporary misdirection

I was very confused

[pure yoke]

There isn't really a real point to covering that

[unreal flax]

I'm confused as to why, is what I mean. Why would a DRK die to that?

Are they getting knocked into the wall or something?

[woeful prawn]

you take knockback damage and burn just before and just after the knockback

[scenic patrol]

nah, borf means shielding the random DPS players that get prey

[pure yoke]

Melee dps can just bloodbath it

[woeful prawn]

which is death unless they are healthily topped unmitigated

[pure yoke]

Reducing the amount of healing needed considerably

[unreal flax]

Yeah, that's what I usually do. I just bloodbath and I'm fine. The burn doesn't hit that hard. Unless it's a percentage of HP instead of a set damage amount

[dull radish]

I manaward and take like no damage from stuff haha

[unreal flax]

BLEED, though. Bleed will fuck you allllll the way up

[scenic patrol]

I still don't think it's enough reason to lock out DRK

but what do I know, I just play WAR in raids

now I am ilvl 356

quite cozy

[unreal flax]

I'm a pokey boi. I'm here to deal damage and take damage accidentally

[dull radish]

it's not enough reason to lock out a DRK, no

but some people will

some people will also just lock out random jobs just because they feel like it

I dunno

[woeful prawn]

for practice it was worth it

[dull radish]

I don't try to understand some folks

[unreal flax]

Last time I went in there, I did Jump. Magitek Ray aimed RIGHT at me. The person targeted for Aura Cannon didn't get west fast enough. Made it out in time to get missed by both. Rest of the party was rip to bleed, though

[woeful prawn]

pld also has hg for the biblio add but at that point youre past practicing

[unreal flax]

THRUB.

GET THRUBBED PUNK!

Alright, so with Ultros in the beginning. Is it better to delay switching to him or should he be burnt instantly like Dada?

I'm thinking it's better to delay for timers, but I'm a DRG. My timer is one button

[dull radish]

keep hitting boss as long as possible

[scenic patrol]

delay switching if in a competent group

[dull radish]

all that matters is ultros dies before he gets buff when boss comes back down

[scenic patrol]

or AOE pad

[dull radish]

you ideally let ultros live a bit so folks can build up gauges/buffs/etc

[unreal flax]

Yeah, I usually have two Nastronds at that point, if I remember correctly.

[dull radish]

then kill him before he's an issue

[unreal flax]

So I can use at least one on both the boss and squid

[pure yoke]

[dull radish]

<3

[scenic patrol]

usually I get my IR during one of the Ultros spawns, so I just Decimate them both'

It's padding time bois!

[dull radish]

I end up losing out a lot from not wanting to pad as hard on adds in 7 haha

boss damage ranking vs overall ranking is a decent bit different

though, I haven't had a properly good 7 either way, honestly

[scenic patrol]

https://puu.sh/zIhP5/83c9742da8.png

ayyy

[pure yoke]

I'm going more casual

'ish

[dull radish]

oh yeah?

[pure yoke]

I left my static recently

[scenic patrol]

something happened?

[pure yoke]

Honestly was really hard to do that considering I was with them for half a year

[woeful prawn]

https://i.imgur.com/jEEtVg9.png

wth only different pants

[pure yoke]

I have 340 left side, diamond axe, and 350 right side

On my warrior

[scenic patrol]

all crafted

[woeful prawn]

i did tank week 1 then changed to schmain

[pure yoke]

Man going to get kill savage ten times achievement

Before I get kill ten normal

[dull radish]

heh

what week are we on, anyways?

I always lose track of it

[pure yoke]

7

[dull radish]

alright

still a few more weeks until I buy my boots, then

stuck at the same ilvl for weeks now is disappointing, but I don't wanna buy boots only to have them drop right after

when I still need a few accessory upgrades

[pure yoke]

I still need diamond boots/belt/bracelet/2 polishes

[dull radish]

for speedy set I need like, one twine, two polishes, and boots

ideally go more for balanced set though which is like, two more twines I think on top of that? And chest from 8

[pure yoke]

I still kinda regret leaving my static

But what done is done

[dull radish]

so what's your plan for now, then?

[pure yoke]

Immediately join a more chill static

Speedrun with another group

Essentially keep prog and speedrun in different groups

[dull radish]

that sounds pretty cozy

[paper torrent]

School prevented me from going to statics

Hopefully i can do that next tier

[scenic patrol]

Not with those parses

[paper torrent]

@scenic patrol HUSH EURO DADDY IM WORKING ON IT

[scenic patrol]

It's O7S prog time

[sullen sable]

gl

[spice comet]

🤔 so a question on forsaken 1, it hits hard then we gotta get everyone back to full, wut do i do if theyre off like 1k hp as sch, i save indom for post heads debuff

[sullen sable]

Moar mitigation

[dull radish]

Have the dps remove a VIT meld or two~

[sullen sable]

Or that

[spice comet]

Wut

Remove?

[dull radish]

Yes

[spice comet]

Not put on melds

??

[dull radish]

Only half joking btw

[spice comet]

[pure yoke]

I wouldn't remove it

[spice comet]

Wuts forsakens hit raw?

[pure yoke]

Vit melds save lives more often than not

[sullen sable]

Are you using soil?

[spice comet]

I thought vit saves lives

Soil->fey->shield

[sullen sable]

Anything else from the raid?

[spice comet]

Larg is for right after head

Reprisal?

Wings

[sullen sable]

Shake?

[paper torrent]

^

[spice comet]

Somehow our drg is missing 1k still

Not sure on shake

[sullen sable]

If it's just one person, physick them

[spice comet]

Its always the drg too

[sullen sable]

Or lustrate

[spice comet]

[pure yoke]

Is he stacking properly?

For heals

[spice comet]

For cure 3? I think so unless hes a sec late but cure 3 heals hard

Ill use a lustrate 💦

[dull radish]

Could have him second wind

[spice comet]

Was hoping to save it

And make it ed

I see yeah 👀 👌

[sullen sable]

Physick then

[pure yoke]

I usually bloodbath before second mad heads

As a dragoon

[spice comet]

Do i have time to physic

Before debuff hits?

[dull radish]

Yeah

[spice comet]

🤔 how much time is it from forsaken to debuff?

I mean when forsaken hits

[worn zenith]

What would you guys recommend for first time raiders starting Sigma?
Join through PF or DF?
We were in two practice parties from PF which were.... very interesting..

[spice comet]

Cause its like they all gtfo barely when forsaken is done

[pure yoke]

If you play na or eu

PF is the only choice

[worn zenith]

EU

[paper torrent]

you hard carry shitters using a 5k parse

[worn zenith]

in both parties one of the tanks were new

[pure yoke]

JP uses df for clear, pf for practice/clear

[sullen sable]

You've got like 3-4 gcds I think

[pure yoke]

NA and EU uses pf exclusively

[sullen sable]

Between forsaken and heartless

[spice comet]

Oh thats not bad

[sullen sable]

Maybe 2-3

[worn zenith]

during the tank switch due to connectivity

OT doesnt provoke

[paper torrent]

Dont have people do that

[spice comet]

So can prob actually succor too i see

[worn zenith]

and I end up dying cause i got 2nd aggro

[paper torrent]

Instead have your OT drop at A

And passage of arms at B

[spice comet]

If u have pld

[paper torrent]

Better uptime for melee

I never see DRK in o5s lul

[spice comet]

LOL

[sullen sable]

During prog, I kinda just spammed succor during first forsaken tbh >_>

Didn't bother checking people's hp

[worn zenith]

I guess I'll give it another go tomorrow

[spice comet]

Yeah i want to spam succor

But i come to loj with no mp

[sullen sable]

Yeah

[spice comet]

Then we all died and lb to trine

🤔

[sullen sable]

I was suckin down mana shifts

[spice comet]

For indom too do u do it first or second head?

Cause its tight for both

[pure yoke]

When will you clear virsath

[spice comet]

Im bad

[paper torrent]

Protip

[spice comet]

N then sometimes dps died to second head cause my indom was late

[sullen sable]

I cleared two weeks ago

[paper torrent]

Discord groups have a much better chance of succeeding assuming they actually call out mechs

[pure yoke]

Wew

Late grats

[sullen sable]

Tyty

Was kinda hoping to get my book before I unsubbed

But o well

[pure yoke]

What if I paid your sub

[paper torrent]

I'm resubbing out of spite

[pure yoke]

[paper torrent]

I WILL GET A DECENT PARSE

[dull radish]

you can do it <3

[pure yoke]

Sometimes I like to look back at my very first savage clear

[sullen sable]

Why would you pay my sub?

[pure yoke]

Some bootsy ass 25% clear

[sullen sable]

I believe in you @paper torrent

[paper torrent]

Thank you all

[sullen sable]

Actually the group I'm subbing for this week offered to pay my sub to raid with them

They just lost a healer

[pure yoke]

Nice

[sullen sable]

Not gonna take the offer

As much as I like them

Burnt out

Need to not play for a bit

[pure yoke]

Your og group disbanded?

[sullen sable]

Nah, but they haven't had a stable roster in like... A month or so

I think they're finally about to solidify this week

I think we had someone new or a sub every week of Sigma prog except the first one

[pure yoke]

The struggles

[sullen sable]

Ye

Glad we got it down though

Was the fastest I'd ever done prog.

[pure yoke]

[sullen sable]

Unfortunately, we lost a couple people that made being in the group really fun

[pure yoke]

For me prog made me realise how toxic my static could be

I recently left it yesterday

[sullen sable]

[dull radish]

/soothe

[pure yoke]

I really like them as people

[dull radish]

I'm happy my group's relatively cozy

[sullen sable]

[pure yoke]

I just can't handle how quickly it can get unpleasant

[sullen sable]

Yeah that's one of the small things that pushed me to unsub with my group too

They had a minor spat the other day over something trivial

And I was like, "sigh, no reason to stay"

Can't be helped

[woeful prawn]

@spice comet i do indom after celestriad dps fires happen -> indom on first heartless debuff expire and indom again on second heartless expiring. yes its super tight and you may go over by a second but its such a strong heal

[spice comet]

Thats tighhhht

[woeful prawn]

its like actually 30s apart

[spice comet]

Reeeee

Yeah i noticed

Wut if i dont have it for second

like 4 sec off

Panic?

[woeful prawn]

when you fuck up your stacks and start spamming 150 potency healsuccs

[spice comet]

LOL

🔫

Good idea

For sake of prog i guess ill just heal and dps with break

[woeful prawn]

its a really good idea to just consistantly get past first forsaken

you get 2 minutes of netflix and chill as long as people dont eat trines

[spice comet]

Loj was not chill 👀 💦 💦

But i see

That would help

So if i have no mana by end of log

Loj its k?

[woeful prawn]

yeah i just put eos tether on mt and let everyone chill at 10% for a minute

[dull radish]

You have a good bit of time to relax between forsakens

[spice comet]

But dont they need to be topped

Oh. U mean like

I see after heads

[dull radish]

Like when the arena returns to normal after light of judgement

Every time after the entire forsaken happens (not the cast itself), there's a good bit of time before much damage goes out again

Main one to get folks back up after is 2nd but even then you have a bit

[spice comet]

I c 👀 yeah our issue seems to be getting out of loj in one piece

Its been trine semi prog through lb3

[woeful prawn]

indom after second heads helps a LOT

[spice comet]

So i want to gurantee that indom

[woeful prawn]

so try getting both heads with indom even though its tight

also tell your healer to not use cure iii during heads

[spice comet]

Is it possivle to shield first head and emergency some heals instead? With my whm doing medica

Yeah they cant lol

[woeful prawn]

ok good

[spice comet]

Ripped aggro

[woeful prawn]

cause you want medica to catch tanks as well for their wings buster

[spice comet]

Initiall tried and completely rip

[dull radish]

Spread adlo plus something else is enough to take kefka heads without a heal. If it's a critical probably enough on its own

[sullen sable]

Idunno when your AF cooldown is, but from my experience, you get a fresh three stacks right around the first heartless; that gives you one indom for each heartless and a soil for the light of judgement afterward

Yeah critlo can soak the whole thing

[spice comet]

So when we go south and theres wings of destruction, i can do some normal healing to full hp?

[dull radish]

Still need to heal tanks up though of course

[spice comet]

Right before second head

Yeah keeping tanks alive

O_O ohhh

[woeful prawn]

my heal timeline is super safe during forsakens but it might not work if aetherflows are fucky

[spice comet]

The spread aldo seems like a good idea

[dull radish]

It's alright

You'll still need to focus healing for tanks on first and party for second

[spice comet]

Cause my indon is sometimes like 2 or 3 s off

[woeful prawn]

i deploy prepull and deploy again at ~4~5 min

[spice comet]

Then dps dies

[woeful prawn]

are you succor shielding them before heartless goes off?

[dull radish]

You can always have dps kite the heads for a little bit

At least during prog

[spice comet]

I guess i should play it safe i was deploying for first heartless to ultima

To squeeze dps

[dull radish]

That's the least spooky place really

[woeful prawn]

that one is super good tho

[dull radish]

I dunno haha

[woeful prawn]

cause it builds 1.3 lb bar if you just assize

[spice comet]

Yeah it is but i see i can rip a few gcds lol

ill try out the late deploy for second head, see how it goes

Our lb bar def builds lol from being ded

[scenic patrol]

Starting to get past Virus more and more consistently

[dull radish]

Nice

[scenic patrol]

Think we'll see Enrage in a couple pulls

[sullen sable]

naisu

[scenic patrol]

Last wipe was on Biblio

Add

[sullen sable]

basically home free

one last mechanic

[scenic patrol]

People still die here and there

[sullen sable]

ah

[scenic patrol]

So when we see Enrage we'll likely fail it

But we have the DPS to clear

[unreal flax]

I'm gonna try to pug my way to enrage tonight before Critical Role.

[paper torrent]

GL

[sullen sable]

https://forums.combatlogforums.com/t/hitting-pause-on-feature-development/5806

[paper torrent]

eh? does this mean fflogs is going to go down for a bit?

[sullen sable]

probably not

just no new updates

er

no new features*

[paper torrent]

oh so he's just going to work on a new framework sepereately until there is a working stable release

that makes sense

[sullen sable]

i'm told it's at least in part because jp usage of the site has exploded recently

[paper torrent]

that makes sense

it's rare you see a dev take the time and effort to update something like this

[lyric kelp]

jp is now like 3 mil page views per month

[paper torrent]

cough tera still coded chatboxes in basic HTML cough

[sullen sable]

yeah jp surpassed na

still can't quite digest that thought

[lyric kelp]

its like double na now

[full wave]

Why is that surprising?

[sullen sable]

they just haven't been very competitive in the past

or maybe they just want more detailed log analysis tools

who knows

[paper torrent]

koreans usually take theorycrafting from NA

and usually use NA resources because they figure that they'll do it anyway

[sullen sable]

we should do the same for JP's ACT plugin library

i need more cute anime voices in my act

[paper torrent]

I can never get the triggers or the timelines to work

'cause they never like loading the .wav files, super pain in the ass

i learn mechs by muscle memory more than anything

[sullen sable]

yeah i don't use triggers for anything

well that's not true

i used them for nael in ucob

i can't place markers and read rp at the same time

[scenic patrol]

Well, didn't reach any farther in O7S

we got tilted after about 5 wipes

and started to be less consistent

[sullen sable]

rip

[steady pebble]

😦

[scenic patrol]

at least they are fun people

it's a little bumming

but at the end we will be able to clear it

[paper torrent]

just a matter of time, that's why they give people a long time to prog in the tier

[wet stag]

Good luck johni

[scenic patrol]

Now it's either pugging it or waiting for next week

[unreal flax]

I wish every fight only had good mechanics. Mechanics like every single mechanic that isn’t Misdirection.

[woeful prawn]

just have enough hp to survive the laser

[unreal flax]

lol

[torn kindle]

healers adjust

[pure yoke]

Misdirection doesn't really do shit on O7S

since you can't hit the boss for the actual dangerous part

[hybrid rapids]

have healer use rescue

JP strat bait the boss to north

then just run to south

you have like roughly 3 seconds to run after effect gone

[torn kindle]

JP strat
Too confusing for my simple NA mind

[woeful prawn]

i just tap w

until it starts moving me into a nonretarded way

[hybrid rapids]

JP strat usually is standardized

and easier to execute

NA varies on static / asking PUGs to follow xenos strat

[celest hazel]

So, my static has failed to clear O7S for weeks, now, and now that we have memorized the mechanics and know how to handle them, we still can't seem to clear. We get to 2% enrage everytime. Everyone is geared i350 and up, except for our BRD, who is still wearing two i340 pieces because they're his 'best in slot'. However, his being undergeared could very well be part, if not most of the reason why we aren't clearing. How do I tell him to upgrade or GTFO without sayinjg "upgrade or GTFO"? Because he is a valuable member of the group, but he is kind of hindering our party a bit by not upgrading those pieces even to just i350.

Because I was under the impression that main stats > secondary stats.

[azure hill]

It feels unfair to blame the bard

If the whole static can't clear with 350+, it probably means everyone has room for improvement

Like, how is the tank and healer dps contribution?

Do any of you parse the run?

[celest hazel]

I'm not solely blaming him. Both tanks are pushing 2.8-3.5k DPS, the healers are pushing 2-2.5k.

I just said that his being undergeared could be part of it,.

[glossy musk]

I mean

[azure hill]

How is his average?

[celest hazel]

4.5-5k.

[azure hill]

4,4 is 75% percentile according to fflogs

[paper torrent]

it is not your bard's fault lol

[glossy musk]

Upload the parse so we can see who's shit

[torn kindle]

even though he's undergeared how does his DPS compare to the rest of the group?

because BRD forsaking ilvl for crit has been a thing a few times.

[glossy musk]

^

[torn kindle]

Remembers when 2.x BRD's BiS was the crafted i110 chest instead of i130 Ironworks/DW

[glossy musk]

Even now

BRD BIS uses underleveled shit

crafted bracelet and an unupgraded ring

[azure hill]

Most of the crafted/normal raid accessories for BRD are pretty bad statswise

[paper torrent]

warrior 75 percentile

is 4k

on guardian

[celest hazel]

(01:57) Guardian: 31331 BLM-Foul-26,376
BLM | 6186
MNK | 5868
BRD | 5004
DRG | 4912
DRK | 3199
PLD(me) | 2950
SCH | 2256
WHM | 956

[azure hill]

2950 as PLD is pretty low

3,3 was good PLD dps with 340

[torn kindle]

Who's the MT?

[celest hazel]

So, what can I do to push my DPS higher? DRK is MT.

[dull radish]

that DRG though

[torn kindle]

Yeah the PLD should be higher if he isn't the main tank

DRG also looks low, they shouldn't be lower than brd unless they haven't gotten their tomestone weapon yet

[glossy musk]

lol the drg

[dull radish]

even without tome weapon really

they should be higher

[glossy musk]

also the whm

[dull radish]

mhmm

[glossy musk]

not sure what's goin on there

[paper torrent]

paladin 75% percentile is 3.791

[steady pebble]

if you uploaded the actual parse

people could look a bit more close at what is going on and help with better advice

[celest hazel]

I don't have any of that. I play on PS4. I uploaded what was copy/pasted into our static's channel.

[torn kindle]

F 😦

[celest hazel]

I copy/paste what was posted*

[paper torrent]

why does it say 1:57

is this the whole fight?

[steady pebble]

should ask someone who parses it to upload to FFlogs

[glossy musk]

^

[steady pebble]

because just posting the numbers isnt all that helpful

it gives a very vague idea

[azure hill]

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/j7dNztgDcvMTJXZ4#fight=13&type=damage-done

[celest hazel]

I'm not sure why it says 1:57. I dunno how any of that works. lol

[steady pebble]

that something is wrong

[azure hill]

This is a parse you have for O6S

If you look at the percentiles for most of the party, that's pretty low

[glossy musk]

8%

[torn kindle]

The PLD died twice too.

[glossy musk]

I bet that BLM's back fuckin hurts

[dull radish]

that DRG

[paper torrent]

your BLM/MNK must have a sore back

[dull radish]

doom spike x2 sonic thrust x1

[regal halo]

2.2k for a PLD is very, very low.

[torn kindle]

I just saw that

[regal halo]

4.5 for a DRG is also very low

[dull radish]

I dunno DRG much in SB but

uhh

[azure hill]

Mind you, he died twice in that log

[torn kindle]

why did he use AoE moves in a single-target fight

[regal halo]

Averagely the DRG should be over 5k

[dull radish]

yeahh

[celest hazel]

Okay, so... I get that it's low. But I'm asking what I can do to fix it. lol

[torn kindle]

was he trying to inflate DPS on the feathers???

[regal halo]

Yeah

no worries

[dull radish]

maybe I guess, can check

[regal halo]

Most likely not doing positionals?

[torn kindle]

B4B usage looks low.

no wait I mathed it he did good on that.

[paper torrent]

your holy spirit casts

you need way more than that

[celest hazel]

Also, I was unaware that some of the BRD's BiS IS actually underleveled sometimes. That's news to me. I was trying to find out what the issue was, and that was the only thing I saw that stood out to me. I'm not a BRD player. I think my Archer is like, level 8.

[dull radish]

16 true thrust, 17 vorpal, 15 full

[celest hazel]

So, should I be using Holy Spirit even when Requiescat is NOT up?

[azure hill]

You should burn your entire MP pool every time you've popped it

[glossy musk]

No but you're uh

not even doing half

of the ones you should

[dull radish]

you have 7 resquiecat and 27 holy spirits

[torn kindle]

Each Requiescat should be done with full MP and be done with exclusively Holy Spirit

[dull radish]

numbers don't quite add up

[torn kindle]

Each Requiescat fits like 5 or 6 Holy Spirits.

[paper torrent]

minimum 5

[glossy musk]

maybe he respecting the content and using clemency

:^)

[torn kindle]

no clemency usage = NO RESPEKT

[azure hill]

The PLD in my static did 6 Requiescat and 27 Holy Spirits in our last run

But that was a nine minute run

Hm

[paper torrent]

oh wait

[torn kindle]

I'm gonna watch the replay now and see how the DRG fares.

[paper torrent]

you have a 57% uptime on goring blade

[glossy musk]

whaa

ok hold on lemme

[azure hill]

No, never mind me, I'm not reading the timeline correctly

[glossy musk]

pull one of my old logs out of my ass

(this is from our first clear)

My first clear was 72% uptime on goring, that's from literally night 1 of the content

[celest hazel]

I keep my DOTs up as often as I can. And pop Circle of Scorn whenever it's off cooldown. And I do Goring Blade(w/ Fight or Flight)+ Circle of Scorn ---> Royal Authority x2---> Goring Blade for my rotation.

[glossy musk]

You want to always make sure you keep it up, even when you have to disengage from the boss

[celest hazel]

I even put the DOTs up when Fight or Flight isn't off cooldown for that constant rolling damage.

So from what I'm seeing, I'm not using Holy Spirit enough?

[glossy musk]

So you want to unload as much Holy Spirit as possible during each uptime

[celest hazel]

Also, thank you guys for pointing out that the BRD's BiS IS Sometimes underleveled so I didn't go and make an ass of myself by asking him why he hasn't upgraded. lol

Because I had no clue that's how BRD worked.

[glossy musk]

It's np

[azure hill]

Bard wants gear with crit, basically

[dull radish]

well keep in mind most cases it's still pretty smart to blindly go for ilvl upgrades

especially for stuff that'll give more VIT

[azure hill]

So it makes sense to skip gear with worse stats

[dull radish]

it's only on a min-maxing side that you want to skip over some higher ilvl stuff

but it's pretty dang minimal compared to optimizing your own play

[celest hazel]

And I thought I was pushing as hard as I could. I only started doing Savage with the last tier of Omega, so it's still fairly new-ish to me.

And I am still learning.

[azure hill]

Have you tried doing SSS?

It's a pretty stark reality check

[dull radish]

yeah a lot of times it's stuff you don't necessarily think about unless you have other folks look at it, or do a good bit of research

sometimes recording yourself and watching back can help a lot too for folks

end up going, why the heck did I do that, that was dumb

etc

[regal halo]

There is a replay feature

in FFXIV now

you CAN use that.

[azure hill]

A typical beginner mistake (that I'm very prone to) is not attacking while doing mechanics

[dull radish]

recording feature is only for byakko and byakko ex now, though

[celest hazel]

I do find myself sometimes having to break the HS spam mid-stream sometimes just to do mechanics.

Because if I move mid-cast, it disrupts it.

[dull radish]

so now you get to learn a bit of caster secrets

[celest hazel]

So , there are times where I'm like, "Eat a mechanic to get the cast off, or move?"

[dull radish]

slidecasting, and being in the right place ahead of time

with both of those, you shouldn't really have to miss out on HS casts even for mechanics

[azure hill]

The SSS damage requirement for PLD on O6S is 3400 dps

So you should be able to sustain that on a dummy

[celest hazel]

I'm not using uptime properly, then. I'll have to learn how to do that more effectively.

[torn kindle]

Do you know how to slidecast?

[celest hazel]

Is that when one casts, then moves just as the cast bar goes away so the cast isn't disrupted? If so, I haven't mastered it. I still end up breaking the cast sometimes.

[regal halo]

You can start moving once the cast reached 85 to 90%

You still have to estimate on that aspect

[torn kindle]

It's usually around 0.2-0.3 depending on ping

[azure hill]

Most important thing as PLD is Goring Blade uptime though

[wet stag]

@regal halo only for byakko and byakko ex

[azure hill]

And making sure that Fight or Flight covers two of those

[paper torrent]

yeah that up time is super low

[wet stag]

I'll take a look at drk

[azure hill]

Like, you should pop FoF right before applying it, so that expires just as you've refreshed the DoT

Same thing for your bard

The dot should be refreshed just before the damage buff expires, so that the buff is snapshotted

Another PLD question (not trying to rag on you specifically, but its' what I played last tier so it's what I'm most familiar with)

What melds do you have?

Oh wait

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/9858453/

Yeah, that looks fine

[wet stag]

@celest hazel your drk is capping mp a lot

Missing 2 plunges

After boss moves to painting you can get 2 more gcds in

He uses black paint way too early

There are 8 seconds in between the black paint cast and the following hard slash

Ideally you want that to be <1 second but <2 is fine

[hybrid rapids]

will you die if get hit by earthquake?

[wet stag]

No

[hybrid rapids]

there you go

[wet stag]

It's just a lot of damage + vuln

[hybrid rapids]

maximum uptime

healers adjust

[wet stag]

Some speedkills actually just eat earthquake lol

The drk also uses dm only once

It's so good

Use it more

[hybrid rapids]

just kidding, but you're right

can use the paint after he finished cast

[wet stag]

You get 2 gcds in

After he moves

[hybrid rapids]

that too

but risky

usually i use it right after he finished cast

[wet stag]

WOW THATS A SLOW DRK

Jeez

842 sks

2.43 gcd

[paper torrent]

isn't htat slower

than slowboi

[wet stag]

Yeah

Slowboye is 2.38

Hell, slowboye war is 2.42

[paper torrent]

2.42 as warrior is aids

i don't think it's even possible to hit those 5 FC consistently

[wet stag]

2.42 is technically better but only with perfect ping and play

[celest hazel]

I just really want to improve my DPS to contribute more.

[wet stag]

Idk how to play pld so I can't help you there

But your drk needs help

[celest hazel]

I need to better utilize the uptime better, is the issue I'm seeing for myself. And use more Holy Spirit.

[paper torrent]

https://goo.gl/CpPZ94

[wet stag]

In the beginning with grit on, unmend hard slash, spinning slash, dark arts power slash, turn off grit and go straight to souleater combos

The only ogcd he should be using in grit is dark arts to boost the aggro from power slash

Because he's missing 70 potency from carve and 40 potency from plunge

[azure hill]

Question for you @celest hazel, I am terrible at reading logs

Do you keep Shield Swipe on constant cooldown?

Like, you should lead any AoE with Shelton to bait a Shield Swipe proc

[celest hazel]

II didn't know I was supposed to do that. That could help.

[azure hill]

!action shield Swipe

[storm frost]

**Shield Swipe** : lvl 30 Gladiator (15 second cooldown)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
Can only be executed immediately after blocking an attack.
Additional Effect: Pacification
Duration: 6s
Additional Effect: Increased enmity

[azure hill]

That's 100 potency every 15 seconds

[paper torrent]

400 potency every minute ideally

300 potency easily

!action royal authority

[storm frost]

**Royal Authority** : lvl 60 Paladin (2.5 second cooldown)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
Combo Action: Riot Blade
Combo Potency: 360

[paper torrent]

That's like, almost a royal basicallly

and ideally a little bit more than that

[torn kindle]

Only when you're taking damage though, which thankfully happens a lot in O6S

not as much in O7S if you're the OT

[paper torrent]

if you taking damage in o7s though damn

[torn kindle]

I mean

[paper torrent]

rip healers

[torn kindle]

the adds

[paper torrent]

oh yeah that's true

those aren't ALWAYS up though

not like a boss anyway

[wet stag]

You can get maybe like

[paper torrent]

i mean it is most of the fight there but who knows

[wet stag]

A total of 7 ish shield swipes off

Wait no

Maybe 10

Idk

[azure hill]

That adds up to a single bar melee limit break

[wet stag]

?

[azure hill]

No wait

[wet stag]

Is braver only 1000 potency

[azure hill]

I'm dumb

It's 3000

It's late at night and I can't into math

[wet stag]

Lol

Idk the numbers actually so

[torn kindle]

Imagine Melee LB1 doing less damage than Kaiten Midare.

[paper torrent]

imagine midare doing more damage than lb2

samurai meta

[iron sparrow]

Man I'm so confused as to how people make so much gil. I'm omni-crafter with ala mhigan left side (minus tools) and I'm barely making anything.

[paper torrent]

do you have your own gathers

and retainers?

[iron sparrow]

yea

Don't have retainers though

[paper torrent]

a

[iron sparrow]

Still levelling them

[paper torrent]

there's your issue

[iron sparrow]

Shit takes forever

[paper torrent]

retainers is free fucking mats

it's basically passive income too

[iron sparrow]

yea, but they take forever to level

[paper torrent]

welcome to final timegate 14

[iron sparrow]

I been doing it for a few months and my highest one isn't even 50

[hybrid rapids]

easiest way to earn gil to be prepared before major patch hit

[azure hill]

Are you keeping their gear up to date?

[hybrid rapids]

once it hit, craft those new equipment or stuff

[paper torrent]

materia

[iron sparrow]

That requires materia

[paper torrent]

sells for a shitton

too

[azure hill]

And sending them on highest 18 hour expedition?

[iron sparrow]

Which means you need money

I've been sending them on 18 hour expeditions but I have only been keeping their gear at where it has to be to actually do the mission

[azure hill]

Retainer leveling progress slows down a lot with bad gear

[iron sparrow]

oh shit really?

[azure hill]

Their xp is based on what they bring back iirc

[iron sparrow]

I was told that it didn't matter so long as they could actually do the expedition

[azure hill]

But that could be quick exploration only

[steady pebble]

quick venture is random

as its based on the item it brings back

[iron sparrow]

But yea, rn I've just been selling hq 68 ingots but those don't sell that often (or for that much)

[steady pebble]

the 1hr hunt/gathering and the 18hr ones you know what xp you're getting

[azure hill]

Ah, sorry then

[iron sparrow]

And crafting new gear requires materia and stats that I don't have yet (I've managed to pentameld 2 pieces)

[celest hazel]

Thanks guys, for all your help. I'm going to read that guide and learn to play my job better in raiding situations. 😄

[azure hill]

!item a retainer's journey

[storm frost]

**Retainer Counter** : Outdoor Furnishing

A wooden counter for use by retainers.
※Can only be placed outdoors.

No match found. Closest possible match displayed.

[azure hill]

I opted for the rmt path

[iron sparrow]

Yea, I debated it

still am

But idk if I have the money to do it

[azure hill]

Good luck Jericho!

[iron sparrow]

Plus I'd have to do it for all 3 of my retainers

[azure hill]

Send them on quick ventures while playing too

That's fast and good xp assuming updated gear

Do you have a weaver or letherworker?

[iron sparrow]

I have all crafters

[azure hill]

The market has cooled down a bit, but Fashion Report items can be very profitable

Be sure to check the solution posted to Reddit tomorrow

[iron sparrow]

What's the solution?

[azure hill]

There will be five items required for a perfect score

Usually a couple of those are crafted

[iron sparrow]

huh

And then you craft them and they sell well?

[azure hill]

When people work those out, they spike a lot in value

[iron sparrow]

I've only got 260k to my name rn, so should I buy the mats to craft them?

I've been spending pretty much all my gil on materia

[azure hill]

Sometimes it's gatherable or purchasable with yellow scrip

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/100463940835762176/416654104471928853/unknown.png

Things aren't quite as crazy anymore, but the potential is there

Beyond that, HQ Crimson Cider should sell well on Tuesdays

[iron sparrow]

Is that a starred recipe?

[azure hill]

Yeah, I believe so

[iron sparrow]

Damn. I still can't craft those cause I need to meld. Melds have been kicking my ass lately too. I failed 23 times on a 10% chance

[iron sparrow]

So being low on funds, I've already gotten some of my crafter gear melded pretty high, but not with ideal melds. Should I work on penta melding one piece at a time and remove the materia as I meld or buy all the 6s I need and meld them then overmeld

[torn kindle]

I'd do safe melds first

For the immediate benefit

Then slowly work on pentamelds

[unreal flax]

Almost made it to Enrage. Stunk it up a bit too much, though. Didn't fuck up virus or anything hard. Nope. Missiles.

[hybrid rapids]

@unreal flax change camera view to like bird view

much easier to dodge missile

[drowsy pebble]

Still trying to master Trine

in my head ofcourse, a group in pug is yet to fill or reach there lol

if i were to watch the first two tiles, then see which one has a tile fill up last right next to it, is that a good idea?

[iron sparrow]

Man I should prolly do savage this tier. FF6 is my favorite FF game

[drowsy pebble]

that would mean that the tile i get on would be a part of the 3rd set which shares a side with a first set tile

[unreal flax]

Oh, I do. I was just running into missiles hidden under the boss smfh.

I need more patience. That was the problem. I’d move too early and discover a missile that I didn’t let pass.

[hybrid rapids]

@drowsy pebble it doesn't work always, since sometimes the pattern is kinda annoying

i can't upload image

https://imgur.com/a/4OcLf

if pattern like this, if you went up to top right

you gotta separated from group + might getting hit by trine

[drowsy pebble]

hmm

[hybrid rapids]

easiest pattern is 1st or 3rd trine being center

but this might happen too

2nd trine on center

[drowsy pebble]

Yeha i think im going to try and get used to 3-2 for emergencies

but then again i could optimize following tanks and make sure to tell them that they move ahead

i have a gap closer as well that can be used after wing

[lyric summit]

apparently water sprites give more exp than other level 7 things

https://gyazo.com/83869ec897f6359bfb4ef8bf733ba19a

100+ -> sprites

lower ones are sea bishop and irregular plasmoid

weather based = rarer = more exp? 🤔

[azure hill]

Sounds likely 😮

[woeful prawn]

also for trine you can safely eat one and not die

since there is no outgoing raidwide for a while there. unless its big trine but that shits real easy

[dull radish]

as long as you take just one hit and don't get clipped by two AoEs from them

though it does give damage down as well, which is probably relevant for a lot of folks still

[blazing pelican]

It's not super awful if you have good group DPS. Most groups don't have that :v

[dull radish]

yeahh

[molten blaze]

MFW I really need solvent from O7S because diamond cane doesn’t have that good substats and Dai Ryukumaku cane has the best substats ever in my opinion

RDM who did 3.5k dps and got out dps’ed by WAR and PLD gets solvent

Facedesks

[blazing pelican]

!item Diamond Cane

[storm frost]

**Diamond Cane** **:** Two-handed Conjurer's Arm **:** ilvl 375

Damage

105

Magic Damage

141

Auto Attack

120.4

Vitality

352

Mind

355

Piety

223

Spell Speed

318

Materia Meldable

Yes

[blazing pelican]

!item Dai Ryukumaku Cane

[storm frost]

**Dryad Cane** **:** Two-handed Conjurer's Arm **:** ilvl 43

Damage

30

Magic Damage

47

Auto Attack

33.6

Vitality

11

Mind

11

Piety

6

Critical Hit

17

Materia Meldable

No

No match found. Closest possible match displayed.

[blazing pelican]

!item Byakurenge Kai

[storm frost]

**Byakurenge Kai** **:** Two-handed Conjurer's Arm **:** ilvl 370

Damage

104

Magic Damage

140

Auto Attack

119.25

Vitality

342

Mind

347

Critical Hit

218

Determination

311

Materia Meldable

Yes

[blazing pelican]

Idk, if you're pugging, you might want that extra piety

[torn kindle]

Not really. It's almost impossible to avoid Piety on the rest of your gear

And if a WHM runs out of MP then the PUG was downright horrible

[true lark]

that trine diagram is inaccurate

[lucid karma]

This is silly question, but what's correct way to apply feint/reprisal/addle?
Before target starts casting, or before damage comes out?

[true lark]

before the cast bar finishes

everything snapshots

[lucid karma]

alright thanks!

[true lark]

even if there's no castbar there's an invisible "x mob begins casting move"

[lucid karma]

I notice that some damage is animation based rather than cast bar

eg. 2nd boss in Temple of Fist

I think it was hellseal? where you have to stand inside circle until it explodes, not until cast bar finished

[true lark]

some things are inconsistent

usually the animation goes off as the cast bar does

if not, it already has snapshot all buffs/debuffs, but not your HP

[lucid karma]

so applying feint just before cast bar finishes is almost always work, right?

since duration would be long enough to cover damage

[torn kindle]

Sometimes there's a bit of a delay between using the action and it being applied

so I wouldn't cut it too close.

[lucid karma]

oh I know that issue

server tick I think

[lyric summit]

they're 10s long so there's a lot of time

the debuffs

knockback immunity requires some more precision cause that's only 5s

[blazing pelican]

Rule of thumb is to have things up before 2/3 of the bar is full

[torn kindle]

depends on how fast the cast itself is, but yeah.

[tawny gull]

is there some lsit of locations for magicite for krile quests?

[lyric summit]

which one are you looking for? i remember the 3 and 5 one

[drowsy pebble]

should Nastrond ever be delayed if i have more than 25 secs of blood?

[heavy mist]

uh generally no

just press all da buttons 👀

[lyric summit]

does anyone even get mob exp from fate trains lmao

farmed like mobs from 6 to 12 and didn't get any exp from either at 9

[high ether]

nope

you can forget about mob xp with that many people

but NM xp is so big that it's worth it

[boreal edge]

nm exp is the real business

you can ignore mob exp

[fading shoal]

so am i correct in assuming that if you have ammo left as a mch before you start your opener, your opener is just irreversibly fucked?

[lyric summit]

not really

only the cooldown on reload and quick reload matter really, you can start a 2ammo opener while having 3 ammo, just reload will give you 2 ammo so kinda a waste

[boreal edge]

@fading shoal nah

ammo just make opener less rng involved

but wont affect opener potency that much since you still have 50% proc rate without ammo

[lyric summit]

having less ammo than required for either 2 or 3 ammo opener can fuck you over, but having more won't change anything

[boreal edge]

you will always reload before wildfires after all

so your usage on ammo wont change

unless mechanics forced you to do so

insert kefka untargettable intensfies

[fading shoal]

oh i just thought the ammo would just not let you get enough heat in time :/

[lyric summit]

it's a 5 heat difference if you're using 2 ammo, you still need 5 ticks of FT

[wet stag]

cleared o7s today

[lyric summit]

grats

[autumn silo]

congrats

[severe notch]

Grats

[blazing pelican]

㊗

[drowsy pebble]

Is there a Eureka leveling guide out there?

[stable basin]

There was a JP Twitter post that had a chart that might help you

https://twitter.com/Gogo_ffnaut/status/974815993280131072

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It's chain bonus based on solo, pair (one of you carries the other for power levelling), or full PT at same EL
It seems to ignore your level and only takes the level difference into account plus chain bonis

The 10, 20, and 30 are highlighted as they give extra bonus
The second row of numbers along the top is the actual bonus percentage
Top row chain number
Second row bonus percentage
The left column is how many levels above you the mob is
And then the rest is the table of exp for that combo
Sounds like levelling at higher levels would be trash exp tho

-Eurekan Explorers Discord

[fading shoal]

so you only need 3 pazuzu feathers and no additional crystals to upgrade the +2 weapon?

[dull radish]

Yeah

[lyric summit]

but you need to be 19 or 20 to get them as pazuzu fate reward, getting gold at 18 won't give any

[manic parrot]

Quick eureka question, how long would it take to get from level 8 to level 10? And what level, exp wise is the half way point?

[bronze rover]

about 2-3 hours if you get on an NM train

[lyric summit]

should I even bother with sabotender and bishop fates when i'm like 12

[stable basin]

Yes. It gives you anemos crystals.

Those crystals go towards dyeable versions of your gear. Not your weapon.

[lyric summit]

sabo gives 3, bishop 6 🤷

[stable basin]

Still worth it if that's where the train is headed.

FATEs, from what I know, are the only places to get anemos crystals.

[manic parrot]

they also give chests which could give that T-Rex mount

[lyric summit]

https://gyazo.com/87a8f9d787eb9b150b7b3a2d13abd86b

that's new(?)

haven't seen one in the past 600 boxes or so

[scenic patrol]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

I gotta love Eureka for the Materia price drop

Gotta be honest

The influx of materias is so nice

[torn kindle]

If only I got T-Rex. ;-;

[spice comet]

If only t rex was tradeable

[stable basin]

Ive gotten a shit ton of cracked clusters

I have doubles of everthing and still no mount

🔫

[full wave]

Wait you can get Cracked Clusters from lockboxes?

[true lark]

yep

[jovial bear]

Incredibly rare though

[stable basin]

When is endgame gonna revive so I can get doggos T_T

Or is it just gonna be Eureka and Savage till 5.0?

[pure yoke]

I see doggo farms for every primal

on PF atm

[stable basin]

what's average smn dps at 355ilvl?

on a dummy

[sage totem]

Does Gale weather for Pazuzu have to be during night or the window directly after night? ie can it spawn from 4-midnight?

[spice comet]

What im hearing is u kill shadowaiths at night, it automatically goes gales for pazu

Thats in a single night

[sage totem]

The weather can't change by killing things

[boreal edge]

@sage totem you kill wraiths at night then pazuzu spawn at next gales

[sage totem]

Ah

[boreal edge]

so keep kill wraiths at night

while waiting for gales

[true lark]

ye

got my anime weapon

[steep iris]

anime weapon

🤔

[boreal edge]

http://i.imgur.com/zEllyrD.png

thats anime wep

[tawny gull]

God i hate having too many windows open and just to log raid dps you gotta have 3

[hybrid rapids]

if you want overlay must have borderless window

on FFXIV

also, log isn't about DPS only

you can check progression and details (damage type, damage by boss, actions casted, and etc)

to do optimization and improvement

especially damage type is very important i can tell

so you won't use physical migitations on magical damage

[tawny gull]

I just want to have some private logs to track my progress as a dps

[boreal edge]

why private

make it visible

this way

other skilled players can help you further

noticing issues

[hybrid rapids]

You can do unlisted as well

[zinc vortex]

i'd always do unlisted over private and just keep the link with you in case you wanna show someone.

[boreal edge]

no way to track unlisted parses without links?

like from account parses and the like?

[hybrid rapids]

It’s in the history of uploads

If you’re the uploader

Else you have to save the link

[boreal edge]

rip

[hybrid rapids]

That’s the downside of unlisted tho

Isn’t it same as YouTube unlisted?

[boreal edge]

but youtube its your video

[hybrid rapids]

It’s your log :P

[boreal edge]

while parse is for 7 others

[hybrid rapids]

Yea, you have to give them your link

[boreal edge]

well, for my case

i got nothing to hide

i will even make my grey parses visible

[tawny gull]

i mean that's part of getting better isn't it

tho to better up a bad parse you need to have many good parses don't you

[boreal edge]

nitpicking parses is bad practice

parses arent just a color and num only

ppl who know how to read fflogs will go deep in your logs

like see if you got any deaths

see how much your CPM

see your dots uptime etc

[tawny gull]

no i mean i'm all about uploading every single parse

but if i can get a clear with a horrible parse cause i fucked up a couple of times, how long will it take me to get a good perf% from that one horrible parse

[boreal edge]

im just saying its a bad practice to show yourself as decent player while you can have hiccups at times

[tawny gull]

i mean everybody can have hiccups

[boreal edge]

it only affect your median percentile

which is a meme

historical is what mostly matters

[tawny gull]

and what is that stat based on?

just a list of all of your parses and perf%?

[boreal edge]

median is all parses in all tier

historical is best percentile in all fights

no one will look at your median

since its usually a meme

maybe world racers grps will do

most grps will look on your historical

[tawny gull]

gotcha

i just wish i could find a decent pug party for o5s lol

been trying to clear it for 3 days

[boreal edge]

there are always logs pfs

ah nvm

[tawny gull]

yeah i mean i am going with PF

[boreal edge]

o5s is hard mechanically compared to deltascape

its even harder than o2s

[tawny gull]

tbh, DPS are the least excusable for a fail in o5s

[boreal edge]

ghost cabin invites

[tawny gull]

the dps mechanics are so simple and require just a little bit of cunning

[boreal edge]

cost grp dps

[tawny gull]

don't get me started on people who sitll get pushed down by the first ghost

[boreal edge]

o6s on other part is simple

its like new o1s

[tawny gull]

enraging o5s at 44% was my life's biggest disappointment

[boreal edge]

@tawny gull oh i had 36% enrage too

[tawny gull]

People just don't have patience

and the fun part is ,in pf groups the first people to rage quit are the ones making mistakes

I am perfectly fine with wiping 30 times in a row, at least i'm getting practice with te fight and my rotation

[boreal edge]

typical pf experience

go for 1 chest or no chests groups

or make em

in 1st kill

duty complete status is > 1st kill chests

[tawny gull]

Tried, the moment they saw the bonus msg they all left duty and kicked me

[boreal edge]

make a pf

looking for bored raiders who done their weekly

they will be some of em helping

[tawny gull]

i am actually currently making a pf party, but i put the practice tag

[boreal edge]

if u seen enrage as you say

then u seen whole fight

[tawny gull]

i've seen it once, and that run was a shitfest

[pure yoke]

well

[tawny gull]

if i get to see it a couple more times i'd feel mroe comfortable

[pure yoke]

there is a difference between seeing enrage

and actually clearing the fight

since getting to enrage means you fucked up anyways

somewhere

[hybrid rapids]

what if hitting enrage with 0 death and no common mistakes? 👀

[pure yoke]

sounds like you failed at dps

[hybrid rapids]

lmao

[pure yoke]

you played too safe

and ironically cause a wipe

[tawny gull]

oh god odn't get me started on parsing for fflogs

[hybrid rapids]

i do saw some melee DPS stopped doing DPS in order to handle mechanic XD

[tawny gull]

iv'e seen samurais do 1/5th of my SMN dmg

[hybrid rapids]

with super low uptime

[tawny gull]

people do not have a clue on how to play their class and try ti raid with it

[hybrid rapids]

anyway, if you are firm on mechanic and doing pass-able DPS

you should try completion by then

at this point practice is good

[tawny gull]

i mean i've wiped like 30 times total, of which 15 at least were at like the 1:30/2 minute mark

which means that my rotation didn't even reach the summon bahamut phase

[hybrid rapids]

yea, rip

all i can say at this point is good luck

it's harder to find a competent group than clearing a content

[tawny gull]

tbh i am fine with people who are not 100% familair with hte mechanics, as i'm not perfect either

but this whole wipe 3 times disband over and over again is what's killing me