endgame-lounge

[wind cypress]

not in my case xD

I always take the first tick on the 2nd

[loud nymph]

but doesn't your invuln drop off before the final tick?

[wind cypress]

paladin is 10s the first invuln is like 9? can't remember

[sleek moon]

first one is solo, second one tanks take 1 hit together, third one they take 2 hits together

[loud nymph]

Gotcha, I'm not a tank so I did not recall the exact timings

[wind cypress]

if I press it too early I'm afraid I'll die at the end lol

[robust shoal]

iirc it's ~8.5 seconds from first to last hit on the first tower

[daring pine]

in my runs we've just been doing ttp

[sleek moon]

gotta learn snapshot timings, itll help you long term, like sometimes you can catch two raidwides with one rep

i havent tanked for a while but there were previous raids where a cooldown lasted long enough for two busters if you timed it well

or cover some auto attack dmg

sometimes you want to cd very early so the buster lands in the last ~3s of the cooldown

so its back up early

[thin fox]

i'm p sure he has openly said he never checks any information on the balance and just works everything out himself incl rotation + bis

[robust shoal]

I figured out oblation timing that caught every buster in top p6 then did it and realized it has 0.7s of wiggle room

this tier tank gear was obvious to the point of not even being fun to figure out but like

usually you get good results from checking the balance

[sinful brook]

idk i feel like most of that is just figure this shit out yourself because each tank may do it a bit differently

not to mention teaching you how to do uptime isn't hectors job

[robust shoal]

the drk opener is kinda no duh but I spent so much time spreadsheeting to make sure it all works out later down the line

[worn bluff]

the fun thing is that for the 2nd tower, the 2nd and last hit are like 10.2 seconds apart, so if a DRK tried to prepop LD before the first shared hit they would die unless they made sure to mit it properly

like my friend tried to solo it with prepop LD and they just died at the end

[robust shoal]

🇫

[worn bluff]

or i think it's first and last hit are 10.2 seconds

it seems like TTP has taken over now and is the default

which is nice for DRK bc they can prepop the first tower

[grand mesa]

Skip last tower or gg

[worn bluff]

tower order: T.

[jolly flume]

tower order: W (wipe)

[robust shoal]

tower order: oh did you want me to take the first one

[worn bluff]

this is why i have a macro for it lol

[trim frost]

it’s a discussion mechanic

[jolly flume]

[worn bluff]

i watched a stream where a warrior didn't take the first tower and baited the other tank into burning their invuln and jumping in, but he also jumped in and invulned

and then they both died on the 2nd tower

but somehow still cleared and the warrior was released into reclears

[robust shoal]

one time in m8s a war DURING THE CUTSCENE was like oh hey drk can you take first invuln

I didn't see it

[trim frost]

this happened in my first clear bc the pld did not share the first hit with me so i proc’d it immediately and couldn’t survive the last hit xd

[robust shoal]

we wiped

like that's some please discuss before pull stuff

[worn bluff]

the warrior also greeded a tower in arena split and gave everyone bleed just to get a 0 at the end anyways

[robust shoal]

also some get confirmation when you discuss it

[jolly flume]

I miss top

[trim frost]

sometimes u just gotta wipe the clear party on principle of not letting feral beasts into the wild

[jolly flume]

alpha? why are you here?
chiyo shiomi: whm do you want 1st or 2nd lb, and mid or not
dead silence

[worn bluff]

except if the streamer releases the gremlins, then they have more content for later when they encounter the gremlins in reclears

[trim frost]

true

[worn bluff]

"oh my god who is releasing these griefers into reclears"

[robust shoal]

I had a few of those moments

[jolly flume]

that's why I use the ancient forbidden technique

of c41ing someone into instantly blacklisting them

[low hearth]

Wow no content for 8 weeks

[clear plume]

It’s league of legends time

[wind cypress]

just "forget" to use invuln every time you reach ttk, the ultimate troll - can we um have solo savage yoshi p so I don't have to rely on randoms?

[low hearth]

Who tryna do TOP fresh?

Prior ult experience required preferably DSR or FRU

[jolly flume]

i've never done an ultimate before but i'd like to try top

can I join

[robust shoal]

my last TOP group the leader recruited someone who'd cleared I think one savage tier with like greens on the last fight because he doesn't believe in parses

[worn bluff]

i just got this game and job/msq skip i'd like to try top

[clear plume]

Can we do one side panto? Best way to make sure prog takes 8 weeks

[robust shoal]

it was also the first ulti she'd be completing, though she'd seen like DSR p3 in PF

she absolutely smashed it

[low hearth]

did that clear?

[robust shoal]

sometimes taking a chance works out if the vibes are there

[worn bluff]

i love seeing PF descriptions with weird strats. one time i joined a P10S and then realized it said "NW/NE wings, CW break" and then 5 seconds later everyone is like "wait... what do you mean"

[robust shoal]

group before that had the biggest prog griefer I've ever played with and he was almost orange median in savage

he was literally sheeping p5 trios

[random needle]

Oh yikes

[jolly flume]

95% of people still sheep omega to this day

[low hearth]

sheep tech

[jolly flume]

[robust shoal]

leader did an experiment where he'd run to his psyn spot late if he was tethered to him and we wiped every time that happened because he was just reacting to his tether partner

[random needle]

I still wanna do TOP but I'm also still not sure what role I'd wanna play it on

[robust shoal]

also mistimed panto invuln like 3x in a row on day one

[low hearth]

p6 on caster

[robust shoal]

we ended up just not invulning there (which is better anyway imo)

I thought we had the sauce in my prog group when we had me take both bosses and invuln solar ray in p2

but that didn't catch on

[jolly flume]

p6 on caster is free

[robust shoal]

also we first did that by accident because lol drk opener

[random needle]

I dunno, I sorta wanna try a fight on a role other than caster for once

[jolly flume]

every caster job has equivalent or more movement than it used to

[low hearth]

oh

wasnt ts cooked in endwalker or sum

😭

[jolly flume]

ew blm in p6 was some shit though

mfs had that phase spreadsheeted

[robust shoal]

our stack the flares strat did catch on and people called it Momo strat cuz he tweeted about it 😭

[low hearth]

caster and healer dont have to flex much so its chill i think

[jolly flume]

braindead limitless

icant

[random needle]

I do like the role plenty still but I wanna experience something else at least

... I feel like I'd be trolling hard on tank though somehow

[robust shoal]

you can see us doing it on like day one in mogtalk vods that probably don't existany more

they just never talked about it because we only got featured when all the reasonable people were asleep and it was C-string groups with no casting

apparently they did make fun of my slidemaxxing in fru though

[jolly flume]

tank doesn't really do anything different in top than anyone else tbh

very role agnostic fight

just know how to press mit

[robust shoal]

I had a lot of fun in top on mch

[clear plume]

I was gonna say tell that to p1 ending Mfs are BAD at mit there

[robust shoal]

ofc I just think top is fun

it was super fun on rpr too

and ofc drk

[clear plume]

I love top on monk actually

[random needle]

Sometimes I worry that I play my mit a little fast and loose on SCH in my static, but I feel like if I was genuinely bad at it, I'd be able to recognize it or I'd be getting called out on it

[robust shoal]

But there's nothing like blasting 14k rdps on p4 doing like two basic combo gcds the entire phase after people die to monitors

[jolly flume]

mit in top is genuinely dead simple

it's very uninteresting

[clear plume]

Back in my day

[robust shoal]

savage mit only matters on the fixer

[grand mesa]

The best part about mit is that it's only "bad" if you're dying or making your healer work too hard

[clear plume]

Mit fifny reach across the entire arena

[jolly flume]

you just get hit with a single raidwide that does 150% of your max hp every like 45 seconds

[grand mesa]

Tbh

[random needle]

I am the healer in my old content group

The shieldie at least

[grand mesa]

The best places to mit are the parts of the fight that kill you, and you learn that fast

The hardest part is just learning to cascade ur mit to fit fight timelines

[jolly flume]

just press mit buttons somewhere until something kills you and then press an extra button there

it's all vibes

[grand mesa]

Yeah

[robust shoal]

out healers got it figured out

(legitimately the work well together)

[grand mesa]

As long as it's not a 0, ig

[jolly flume]

me and my coheal kinda cook on double shield

[robust shoal]

the sch is just like, don't you dare press a gcd heal your glare is worth more than my broil

[random needle]

e12s is like the one fight that has had some somewhat spooky heal checks for us up to now, mainly in Junction Shiva/Titan and now Terminal Relativity, but I'm hoping that we barely have to do Terminal if our damage is good

[grand mesa]

yaoi

Fair enough

[random needle]

The initial hits of the Relativities hurt, but there's like 7 years to set up spreadlo before they go out

[robust shoal]

Terminal is crazy

[worn bluff]

does PLD benefit from any comfiness in TOP? or is GNB playable

[random needle]

Terminal makes me wish I had Seraphism in a way nothing else has

[robust shoal]

I wonder if Terminal lost its crown to The Fixer for hardest-hitting savage raidwide

[clear plume]

Gnb rework makes it playable wherever the fuck you want, it’s the point of gutting the job like they did

[robust shoal]

4x 10% and a shield to survive it at min ilvl

[grand mesa]

Pld has group mit, but you lose out on a p5 invuln

[jolly flume]

wings is nice in like one significant failure point

[grand mesa]

Im not sure if you still need healer mit to live a swap with current vit

[jolly flume]

because people can't remember to mit wc2

[robust shoal]

if only spreading the panto lasers was popular

[worn bluff]

i want to play GNB more it's just sometimes it feels like PLD without range

[grand mesa]

Fwiw

You rarely ever have to run out of range in TOP

It's just uh

[worn bluff]

[grand mesa]

P2 and some parts of p6?

idr

[robust shoal]

p6 should all be melee

[grand mesa]

Or is p6 boss big enough

Ah

gg

Should be free then

[robust shoal]

you can max melee both exa patterns but it is close af

[jolly flume]

yeah you can't really lose uptime besides like

limitless tether

[worn bluff]

it's like i still find PLD fun, so it's a decision of whether i want to play a job that is a little more fun at the expense of comfier mit/range

[robust shoal]

even limitless tether you should only throw one ranged gcd

[grand mesa]

I still don't know if you need extra mit to swap p5

[robust shoal]

someone asked idk if here or balance if they can skip the unmend on limitless tether

[jolly flume]

out pattern on exa lines up with the outer corner of intercard markers with pf markers too so there's not really any guessing involved

[robust shoal]

like uhh it's just 1 gcd

[grand mesa]

You have more VIT than on content now but

Idr the damage ranges

[clear plume]

You can, but Mfs will skip inviting you to their next party

[robust shoal]

man, I forget our prog strat for limitless

[grand mesa]

It's time for the sge rescue into gapclose tech

[robust shoal]

sometimes we went cw and sometimes ccw

I forget the logic behind it

but we never messed that bit up

[grand mesa]

Meow

[robust shoal]

it was comfy for the party, I know that

[zealous meteor]

the meower

[worn bluff]

i've only done like 1 hour of TOP

and it was on RPR which i'm not sure if i want to play

i think TOP has the best weapon glow in the game though, so i've always been tempted to go back

[clear plume]

Nin/mnk/drg are your melees that just vibe through the fight

Zero thoughts just press ur 1m

[jolly flume]

step 1 play vpr

[clear plume]

(They have opti but lmao opti in 2026 top)

[jolly flume]

step 2 invite pld to the party

step 3 hg cd is no longer an issue

[clear plume]

I did top on viper at like level 93 on expack drop it was fun 👍

[grand mesa]

I held every phase during prog because my dps players wouldn't stop bitching about phase time

[worn bluff]

so there's no fun stuff for tanks in TOP?

just play DPS?

[clear plume]

If dps players want to bitch dps players hold

If healers want to bitch dps players hold

[robust shoal]

fun stuff for tanks in TOP is doing TOP

[low hearth]

Viper hold 🤔

[grand mesa]

I don't hold anymore

[worn bluff]

i guess the other thing is what job is more in demand

for easier fill

[robust shoal]

It's just mit stuff and perish if you ever mistime something

[grand mesa]

Tanks have the most responsibility

If you find that fun

[clear plume]

Quite legitimately, progging on tank is progging on melee

[robust shoal]

Also there's a pre-rampart you need to nail in sigma

[grand mesa]

But melee dps in TOP is payphone meme

[clear plume]

You will learn the same mechanics the same solve

[worn bluff]

i did find it fun in FRU and this tier, although difficulty wise i know neither of those comes close to TOP

[grand mesa]

You just end up having to pay attention to a bit more than on DPS

[jolly flume]

shield healer in 100% of cases

[grand mesa]

Mit, invuln timings etc

[jolly flume]

[grand mesa]

Staggering mit in p3 (he fucking hurts)

[clear plume]

Big news gamers my new monitor arrives today

[robust shoal]

TOP mit isn't necessarily hard but it is extremely punishing

[jolly flume]

top pf is literally the reason I picked up sage

[clear plume]

240hz

[jolly flume]

because no parties could fill the slot

[robust shoal]

You just fall over dead if you miss a mit on anything

[grand mesa]

I have a 210hz panel

[worn bluff]

i guess i find doing the few tank things more fun than a more involved DPS rotation, usually

[grand mesa]

I do not notice the difference between that and 165

[robust shoal]

except like limitless tether if you're the spreadlo target

[jolly flume]

I have a 240hz oled but I only get 80fps in xiv

reshade+resolution diffed

[worn bluff]

i like having my buttons rely more on the fight and incoming damage, but i don't like it enough to play healer

so tank is where i usually land

[grand mesa]

If you want an easier time in PF

Being the competent tank will help

[jolly flume]

ngl I kinda hate playing tank in dsr and top because my peanut sized bird brain can't remember both mt and ot raid mits

and I also don't play the terminal mt/ot tanks

[robust shoal]

I haven't rly pfed them so ig it doesn't actually matter but being always ot on drk is kinda nice

funny cuz (old man time) drk in sb was the only tank that did both mt and ot depending on comp

[worn bluff]

i'm far from an experienced and competent tank. but then when i have a random cotank in PF i realize the bar is way lower than i thought

[low hearth]

having to flex mt and ot

[jolly flume]

I got away with flexing mt ot gnb in fru because party mit is a suggestion in that fight but I'd probably wipe us in top to something lol

[robust shoal]

imagine playing pld and turning your stance off costs a gcd

[grand mesa]

being able to recognize your mistakes is more than some people have

[worn bluff]

tbh remembering to switch between mits is the main reason i don't feel like OTing in M12

i just know rep idyllic

but i have no idea what the other mits are

[robust shoal]

well ig it wasn't turning stance off it was switching from shield oath to sword oath

but w/e

[worn bluff]

but i guess i'm PLD so i just party mit everything

[jolly flume]

tbh one tank can cover like

most of the actually threatening damage instances on their own in 12

so if you overlap a few times it's not that big a deal

[worn bluff]

i feel like most of the MT reps in both phases cover almost everything yeah

other than idyllic

[robust shoal]

the only thing that matters that much is fixer

just mit fixer

[grand mesa]

pld group mit is nice

Specially when they do it for the rw after m12p2 candies

[robust shoal]

and maybe you eat a splattershed without rep, not ideal but you prolly live it

[worn bluff]

in phase 1 i rep like... all the fixers, one of the splattersheds, one of the slaughtersheds

[grand mesa]

I have not had a single splattershed almost kill me

[worn bluff]

my rep just barely comes up for that one splattershed that no one mits

[grand mesa]

But also

I've always had shield heal 10 on it

[worn bluff]

because fixer 2 and splattershed are like 47s apart

[jolly flume]

I learned from this message that there are raidwides named splatter and slaughter both

I thought they were all the same

[grand mesa]

bro is vibing his mits

castbar owwie, me press

[worn bluff]

idk why they have different names

they both just kind of exist

[grand mesa]

Slaughter is last mech

Splatter is before that

[jolly flume]

oh

[grand mesa]

Splatter also doesn't hit as hard as fixer

[jolly flume]

yeah splatter is the one that does nothing then

slaughter actually hurts a lil

[grand mesa]

It's probably there for seperation

[jolly flume]

I thought it was the same cast name doing diff amounts of damage

[grand mesa]

Naur

[jolly flume]

reading is hard

[grand mesa]

NA players and reading...

[worn bluff]

i rep 2nd slaughter and wings 3rd slaughter

[grand mesa]

jk

[worn bluff]

idk what else goes out during those

[grand mesa]

I always have neutral sect for 2nd

And bubble for 1st and 3rd

[worn bluff]

i have to wings at the start of slaughter castbar though, because people will split up to see the markers better

[jolly flume]

me deploy 1 seraphism 2 seraph exped 3

[worn bluff]

i actually don't know if it lasts long enough to catch

[jolly flume]

[robust shoal]

do people in pf just like randomly spread there

cuz my static stacks all the dps and all the supports

[worn bluff]

you're supposed to have supports and DPS somewhat separate

[robust shoal]

makes it very easy to see what you have

[worn bluff]

but not everyone does it

[jolly flume]

my group does supports back dps forward

[grand mesa]

I try to tell ppl to supports in dps out of hitbox

[worn bluff]

sometimes you'll get a random dps standing with the supports

[jolly flume]

which is opposite of pf so every week

[worn bluff]

go away man

[jolly flume]

someone stands in the wrong spot

[clear plume]

But what do u get in league

We need to teach u the actual game

[jolly flume]

like 500

[clear plume]

Instead of mayramslop

[grand mesa]

u get 200 fps in league on a calculator

l*ague

[jolly flume]

ti-84 plus ce gaming

[worn bluff]

it's fun when you have spread and one of the other role ends up on your side. and awkwardly stands on top of you

ok we're fine but

[clear plume]

League of legends 2 news is coming out this summer

[grand mesa]

Only took them 16 years

[worn bluff]

[worldly grotto]

Say sike right now

[rain geode]

League of legends 2 is good this time

[robust shoal]

that's called aram

[dull drum]

was skimming through translation is beastmaster 7.55 or

oh they just said 7.5x

[jolly flume]

watch it be .58

[visual geyser]

Perhaps

[dull drum]

nah real talk dropping my prediction

the ult is 7.56 this time

7.55 is beastmaster deployment

[visual geyser]

Doubt

Y "We're not gonna drag it out too far, world first raiders will clear fast, but we want to give everyone enough time to prog and clear as well"

[dull drum]

i mean thats a nothing burger statement

[visual geyser]

Not really

[dull drum]

extra rewards?

blue mage update?

[visual geyser]

Blue mage update was something they vaguely said like 2 years ago

Vs content that is confirmed for this patch and is already done

2 different things

[rain geode]

Seems like something they would want to drop early tho it makes sense not right at the start

they probably want to give people a chance to finish up bis with araid coins if they were lazy

[low hearth]

What does that even mean bro

Yall better get BiS ready

👉 ⏰

[visual geyser]

It means

Please look forward 2 it

[worn bluff]

looking forward to the reward for new ultimate being 1 ester

[visual geyser]

Hold up

The theme is meta right?

What if there is no reward at all

And the reward is actually the sense of pride and accomplishment of completing the fight?

[rapid whale]

It's actually a metaphor refantazio collab

[visual geyser]

Actual good content?

[worn bluff]

persona 5 collab to mark EoS

[mortal flower]

THE ROYAL MAGIC

[echo ibex]

Man it's impressive

People in m11 actually got better at arena split but somehow got awful/worse at stampede

Arena split is so consistent it's scary

[wind cypress]

nice, upcoming beast master has a pokedex, I mean bestiary for keeping track of which pokemon we caught, I mean monsters we tamed

[stray forge]

Subscription prices increase to pay for the copyright infringement case

[wind cypress]

they even have elemental attacks and different moves you can get, and you can battle your way to the top of the ranks they said

[echo ibex]

[brisk charm]

ew ten minute wait time for the 7.0 final boss... i just wanna get to the arcadion on my alt ;-;

[wind cypress]

2 hours until I'm off work, can go do some ultimate weapon progging, I mean m11s reclears

[low hearth]

How’s m12s prog going

[stray forge]

I haven’t logged in for two week vro

My sub ran out lowkenuinly

[low hearth]

😭

[rapid whale]

gg

just find a glucose guardian to fund it idk

[stray forge]

Bapple

It’s 2026

They only have stevia guardians now

Trust

Wait why the hell do you believe me when I say that you literally know I was in m11s yesterday

😭

[rapid whale]

im sry every day i wake up is a new me

[worn bluff]

everyone will be too busy suing pickmon

[echo ibex]

Aha

[low hearth]

Yall can’t keep clearing 15k healers bro

[rapid whale]

im the 15k healer bro'

[worn bluff]

nice kt

[limpid edge]

damn we already on fanfests

gosh what are they gonna announce

[dreamy whale]

Hola

[wind cypress]

everyone's going to parse grey when you have funny numbers "fun" runs for all the raids

[golden jewel]

excited to find out if the ultimate is nier themed like people are saying, but I have my doubts

[visual geyser]

no way its nier themed

i hope not

[clear plume]

They’re not based enough for it

They’ve used static before for slides that they just don’t want to reveal

Mfs just don’t follow games history

All these zoomer asses

[true beacon]

If it’s NieR they’d have to go deeper

[clear plume]

As funny as them canonizing the origin of the black flower as a nier ultimate raid would be

[true beacon]

Like they touched Drakengard with the Seed

[clear plume]

Peak drakengard hater

[true beacon]

But like Shadowlord level

Black Flower?

[sleek moon]

im pretty sure meta = warrior of light

[true beacon]

Yeah it’s likely that

[visual geyser]

agree

[true beacon]

Bc they said it’s voiced

[clear plume]

Drakengard 3 pre lore, the seeds are a part of its power after it was destroyed

[worn bluff]

wdym

[true beacon]

I haven’t heard of a Black Flower myself I don’t think

Only the White Flower in Zero’s eye

https://tenor.com/view/zero-drakengard-drag-on-dragoon-dod3-drakengard-3-gif-9992464239702498830

[dull drum]

can we get voice acted TOP and DSR

[true beacon]

Well I guess it’s more pink

[sinful brook]

What in the Rin shinimi ass take is going on

[clear plume]

The white flower was the reincarnation of the black flower

[zealous meteor]

my theory for the ultimate is that the final phase is the warrior of darkness (you) that succumbed to the light
so the meta part is that you're fighting yourself
i can't wait to be proven wrong in a month

[clear plume]

Did u not read the manga about how the sisters came to be

[true beacon]

When they split and killed all the assholes in charge?
No, but I’ve read some summaries of stuff

I do have Grimoire Nier though

[worn bluff]

the amount of people who do fun runs is probably less than 5%, so it's not possible for them to push any meaningful amount of people into gray

[clear plume]

But yeah, calling it just the entity or the flower would work fine, the black flower is just its first existence we have canonized right now

[sinful brook]

This also presumes those barse runs actually regularly produce good results too lol

[clear plume]

The black flower zeros flower and the seeds are it’s three stages

[low hearth]

[zealous meteor]

wtf is that emote

[tulip anvil]

i have an idea, lets make an "uptime strat" that requires our healers and ranged to run circles around the arena for a one gcd gain

[rapid whale]

i love it when people with 25 clears of a fight cant do a basic mech in the 1st phase

[low hearth]

Brokefellanoway_oh_gee_file

[zealous meteor]

what does it mean

[low hearth]

just a laughing emote

[dreamy whale]

Who the balls pinged me telling me to get bis gear

Im at work

[low hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/all-roads-lead-to-rome-white-rabbit-gif-13308924322367947549

[dreamy whale]

Working on getting warrior to 100

Im at 95 rn before I had to go to work

[low hearth]

You wouldn’t want to clear the ultimate shudders … off patch…

[dreamy whale]

56/7 =8 so I got 8 weeks

Wait

Only 8 weeks

[low hearth]

Longer

[dreamy whale]

Wdym isn’t ultimate 2 weeks after patch

[rapid whale]

juneish

[low hearth]

I lowkey gotta clear forked tower bruh

[sleek moon]

better clear it before they nerf it

or your clear will be worthless

and people will point and laugh

[vestal hollow]

i think there is a high chance that the ult is a nier ult

[low hearth]

It seems like a cool raid but ts is punishing asf if you noob out 😭

[zealous meteor]

congrats on clearing ultimate raid #7 (it was harder in 7.51) it's a huge accomplishment (it was harder in 7.51) you should be really proud of your ultimate clear (they nerfed it in 8.0)

[low hearth]

Like 2 deaths is GGs?

[vestal hollow]

this math does not math

[low hearth]

I forgor

and permanent ruin stacks

[vestal hollow]

if you are unable to parse higher than a gray there is work you can do to improve

[dreamy whale]

Lowkirkenuinely if I don’t clear on patch I should just become an ocean fishing andy

[wind cypress]

the more people that parse higher the more difficult it is for average peeps to not see grey

[low hearth]

Is this true? Do you know?

[rapid whale]

this just isn't true

gray is "makes major rotational mistakes"

you might get pushed out of pink, sure

but gray? fuck no that's copium

[vestal hollow]

this is not how statistics and math works

please try again

[dreamy whale]

would it be more like how everyone in marvel rivals is at least diamond at this point and you barely see anyone from bronze to gold

[wind cypress]

so if 100 people do 27k dps and 1 person does 26k, the average (blue)? is like 26.9k probably

am I doing that right?

[versed kayak]

I think you're vastly underestimating how low the floor is

[rapid whale]

okay but i think you vastly overestimate how many people are doing legitimate parse parties

that too

on both ends of the spectrum you are undersetimating

[robust shoal]

parse parties aren't making people grey because the people doing them are already above grey

[low hearth]

How low is the floor

[storm frost]

Warning issued for jbear1985 on Final Fantasy XIV

Reason: Please stop spreading misinformation. #endgame-lounge message #questions-and-help message
​

Issued By: nhadalaa

[topaz wolf]

!mute 412474223961964558 6h

[storm frost]

Success!

@wind cypress has been muted by @topaz wolf for 6 hours!

[robust shoal]

someone who is already above you making their number bigger doesn't push your parse down

[dreamy whale]

Insanity

[rapid whale]

dam

[zealous meteor]

me logging in to spread misinfo on discord dot gg slash ff xiv

[sleek moon]

where tf is materiel container 5.0 and 6.0

[dreamy whale]

6 hour mute for being wrong

[sleek moon]

i need more lootboxes

[versed kayak]

had a static member accidentally equip previous tier crafted gear for an extreme and they still got a 1 somehow, sure it's just an extreme but good god

[zealous meteor]

simply dont be confidently incorrect

[sick dirge]

[dreamy whale]

Fell cleave is my favorite level 43 ability

[vestal hollow]

[dreamy whale]

[clear plume]

No, it’ll be the middle number of every parse, not an average

50th percentile is based on 50% of people being below it, not middle of the dps done average of every player

[echo ibex]

Wait that's actually smart tho

[worn bluff]

what if fflogs viewer plugin showed median by default

[clear plume]

There isn’t a reason to do this

Tanks can stay middle and press mit

The meteors don’t one shot you with like 40% tank mit up

[echo ibex]

I mean that way something something pld stays at meele something

[clear plume]

And any parse group doesn’t need mit for towers

[worn bluff]

i thought you needed 40% to stay in middle

[rapid whale]

i thought they wanted it so they dont have to bait the tower

[worn bluff]

i'd have to figure out how much mit i need for great wall

[clear plume]

It’s easier than mitting the bard

[rapid whale]

err tether*

[robust shoal]

the unstretched tether does like 400k raw or sth?

it's really not that much

[rapid whale]

o thats what you mean

[clear plume]

You can take the tether in melee range

[rapid whale]

icic

[clear plume]

Legitimately

[rapid whale]

yea

[robust shoal]

just press 40% late on tower

[worn bluff]

what do you use on great wall D:

[clear plume]

Other mit?

You don’t need to kitchen it

[worn bluff]

ig i never tried it without 40

[vestal hollow]

so much for the nuances of m11s

[worn bluff]

i do 40+short but ig i could try ramp+90+short

[clear plume]

40% also doesn’t mean only 40% guardian, sheltron plus rampart works

Anything like that

You tend to overdo it bc of autos tho

If you’re MT

[worn bluff]

yeah i'm usually MT so i might not be topped up

but i might try it anyways

although i'm PLD so there's not that much of a gain

[low hearth]

Does paladin even lose uptime there

[robust shoal]

I ramp dm obl then tbn second hit for great wall

[low hearth]

Ain’t that like a 1 minute window

[clear plume]

And?

Auto attacks be damage

If mit is free it still matters

[robust shoal]

guess I need to look at another log for the tether dmg because I zeroed this one

[clear plume]

Like the cover strat feels like a meme thing a static cooked up before realizing how it actually works

[worn bluff]

it is, i think i only ever have to hardcast if i forget to frontload the melee hits

[clear plume]

The fact it’s “new” means yeah

[clear plume]

I haven’t seen it in any parsing circles I’m in

[sleek moon]

majestic meowth

[clear plume]

Even my warrior can do it fine

(Reminder that 40% mit req also like, isn’t counting mit on boss and party that you still get too)

I troub there for example, and it’s a must feint for the 2-4 way

[worn bluff]

ig PLD would still want to do this in a parse run for the autos

[clear plume]

Also it’s 9:30 in cats log so

Not a 1m

[dreamy whale]

My static’s A4S meme strat is the OT runs around soaking all the discoid orbs and sacrifices themselves to take the big green one the entire party is supposed to take

Sorrgy wrong raid series

[worn bluff]

i like to eat the orbs in normal mode

[clear plume]

I cleared a4s before sac Strat was invented

[worn bluff]

it's fun to run around

[clear plume]

Then they found that and the fight became so much easier

[dreamy whale]

Static leader made compilation of funny A4S moments

[low hearth]

Congrats

[versed kayak]

nice nice

[sinful brook]

Congrats on clearing Eden's promise eternity savage (it was harder in 2021)

Obligatory

[remote gate]

this truly was edens promise (savage)

[wicked delta]

yaoi potential

[worn bluff]

cute couple

[dreamy whale]

“Sorry Hermes, looks like Elpis was your Final Fantasy.”

[remote gate]

those tops are fresh as fuck what are they

[proven pivot]

Does the game show the name/description of the pf party ur in or do ppl use plogon for that

[remote gate]

yes

vanilla shows you pf descriptions

[proven pivot]

How

[worn bluff]

they're from puppet bunker

[worn bluff]

open up PF and click on party recruitment button

only works if the PF is active, so you can't see it once it fills

[remote gate]

thats why i never get that

[dreamy whale]

Yeah there’s so much good glam from puppet bunker and I’m never gonna get to use it because I can’t get a fucking queue to pop for copied factory

[remote gate]

probably looks like ass on lala

[sleek moon]

didnt lindwurm p1 always do the third slaughter even if you killed it early?

[dreamy whale]

Yoshi p pls let me unsync alliance raids

[proven pivot]

Nono i mean a friend saw me in limsa and was like why r you in a m9s practice party… i’m only able to view the pf party if the person i’m targeting is the leader cuz you get a view party finder option

[worn bluff]

i think it's plogon to be able to that

to be able to pull up the PF that someone else is a member of

[proven pivot]

Crazy

Ppl are so nosey

[wicked delta]

both from nier

[worn bluff]

it's kind of a weird thing to bring up lol

i mean they could have also noticed your name in a party they were browsing (also through plogon)

[remote gate]

i mean why would they care that youre in a m9s practice party in the first place

[proven pivot]

Cuz we did the reclear together

Was practicing as sage/h2

[remote gate]

huh

[proven pivot]

Bruh

We recleared this week together hence why the asked why i’m doing m9s again

Told them i’m in a practice party cuz i never did h2/sage

[echo ibex]

"That's it Zenos, this walk will be your end"

[worn bluff]

seems kind of nosy

i prob wouldn't think that much of it unless they were constantly nosy

[low hearth]

Yo we see the relic man

Who that aura farming with the Bozja relic 😭

[dreamy whale]

“Seems like your Ultima Weapon wasn’t so ultimate after all”

[proven pivot]

They’re like this all the time but i let it slide cuz they made me get into savage raiding (i’d would whine about being shit but they drag me to pf anyway)

Now they’re hyping me to finish the tier so i get into ult raiding and that the next ult may be nier themed

(Pfp is a2 from nier, I LOVE NIER)

[dreamy whale]

Nah the Nier ultimate is a joke

[worn bluff]

as much as i would love a nier ultimate i doubt it will be nier

[dreamy whale]

Bc they used the same splash from when the alliance raids were announced iirc

[random needle]

I'm freeeeeeeeee

[worn bluff]

nier chaotic would be cool

[dreamy whale]

Going based off patterns it’s probably gonna be EW raid series themed

Get ready for pandaemonium ultimate

[proven pivot]

I thought of this too but like why would they announce the ult using nier themes

Panda ult would be cool

[worn bluff]

i mean it could mean something, but it could also mean nothing

[dreamy whale]

It was just the static splash, probably didn’t have a placeholder splash that wouldn’t have given away the theme

[worn bluff]

sometimes companies reuse assets for things to save money and then lore theorists go "LOOK THESE TWO THINGS ARE IDENTICAL IT MUST MEAN SOMETHING"

[low hearth]

Any fossils in the chat?

[dreamy whale]

Yea me

[low hearth]

Is fan fest like live streamed or something

[dreamy whale]

Ye

Kinda

[low hearth]

Ok

[proper cave]

Keynote and a handful of events are yeah

Concerts are not

[dreamy whale]

Ye

[proper cave]

Autocorrect hate me

[low hearth]

Like the important stuff

Cool

[dreamy whale]

Ye

42 days

[low hearth]

How do the rewards work?

Like you get cool stuff if you attend it in person?

[visual geyser]

Ye

[proper cave]

Shoutouts to that guy who is still complaining about the square grape squishy toy

[visual geyser]

Poor get to buy it later tho

[proper cave]

I think the reserved tickets got like little grab bags last time.

They used to get codes for digital goods but recently they’ve just been putting those on the cash shop directly on day one.

[worn bluff]

digital code for an elevated ester

[low hearth]

Oh cool

Them tickets sold out fast asf that was crazy

I ain’t know this game had motion like that

[echo ibex]

Yeah and insted of 20 min is 40

[visual geyser]

Lmao

[low hearth]

NieR chaotic 🤔

[craggy marsh]

it should've just been Zenos goatsie

[proven pivot]

I thought studium deliveries were 80-90… what’s the move

Went back to crystarium deliveries only to realize they’re a one time thing

[tulip wraith]

the are no?

[proper cave]

[visual geyser]

in the ring…

[tulip wraith]

yeah its 80/83/85/88/90

[proven pivot]

Wut

Lemme go back

[loud nymph]

crystarium is 71-80, studium is 81-90, wachumeqimeqi is 91-100

they are all one time each

[proven pivot]

You cannot complete this quest until the following conditions are met: MIN, BTN (Lv. 90)

[loud nymph]

oh is it 70/80/90 and not 71/81/91, my bad

[tulip wraith]

honestly just spam leves to level miner and botanist

thats what i did

leves, the special one time deliveries (studium, etc.) and GC turn ins

[proven pivot]

Yeah only 20 levels and I’m done, shouldn’t be too bad

[low hearth]

Hop on Phaenna

[proven pivot]

Horrible if you’re not in it for the relic

(I maxed out all of my crafters there)

[low hearth]

Leveling Gatherers in cosmic

[distant knoll]

probably not as bad now that they're playable but idk, last time i tried leveling gatherers there was before they fixed the cordials and gp

by the time they were fixed i had them at 100

[proven pivot]

Kinda sadge that being an omnicrafter isn’t as lucrative as it sounds

[tulip wraith]

im in it for saving money, not making money

[whole estuary]

It's pretty lucrative

Omnicrafter is just the starting line

[terse zodiac]

its extremely lucrative just you have to put in a lot of work/time/use the mod that does all that for you

[worn bluff]

i usually just make a set of combat gear day 1 and sell it

otherwise i don’t try to make gil

[whole estuary]

I only trained eye or groundwork macro

[worn bluff]

merc c41s make me enough gil for whatever else i need

[whole estuary]

3M a day for just an hour of crafting

You'll never get me to meld! Wahahahaha

[proven pivot]

Yeah a friend made an insane amount of money when the tier dropped bc of this, but this takes me back to my point, selling day 1 stuff is just way more lucrative (I made like 30m selling the new variant glam)

And 20m selling 2 advanced accessories

[tulip wraith]

treasure dungeon glams still sell pretty well i think

[terse zodiac]

yea they always do

as long as the glam looks good

running stuff day 1 and selling immediately is always gonna be the most lucrative bc people are lazy

[whole estuary]

Treasure map doers are also incredibly lazy

[terse zodiac]

but crafting stuff day 1 is also huge

speaking of when are we getting a new crafted extreme weapon

[whole estuary]

They sell all the raw mats for beans instead of taking a minute to craft it into something expensive

[terse zodiac]

those sell wildly

[proven pivot]

I did DT maps today for like an hour and got 4 mats for the new ish glam, each mat is 600k hehe

[proven pivot]

Sometimes the mats cost the same as the glam which.. doesn’t make sense

[whole estuary]

It means the flippers are still going hard in the market

Eventually there is a gap like tokens vs mount

[worn bluff]

i think it’s also like i have no motivation to try to make more gil

i even bought pots food this tier

crafting is so boring

[proven pivot]

Macro goes vroom

[worn bluff]

even clicking the macro is boring for me

[terse zodiac]

macro take 2 minutes to complete

[worn bluff]

i know there are other things out there but

i don’t feel like doing any of it

[proven pivot]

I only craft when there’s peeps around so I can chat

[worn bluff]

even if you handed me 100M gil what would i do with it

probably nothing

[proven pivot]

Deathroll it

[worn bluff]

[proven pivot]

Or get chaotic hair

[terse zodiac]

last pandaemonium tier i crafted full sets for all my friends wanting to endgame and i realized the amount of time is just not worth lol

much rather just earn money and buy it

[worn bluff]

i use the new cash shop hair

[wicked delta]

Chaotic hair looks ugly af on my char so im saved

[proven pivot]

If I ever get it I’ll fanta to bun

Otherwise I’ll look like every other e-girl limsa dweller

[turbid haven]

why did they take out kaiten for samurai but keep life surge for dragoon

oh nvm kaiten empowers for 50% right

[worn bluff]

lance charge is my actual least favorite button on drg

because it looks dumb and the icon looks dumb

they killed dragon sight but thought lance charge deserved to live

[tulip anvil]

they could consolidate it into geirskogul and no one would miss it

[worn bluff]

they could have given it dragon sight’s icon at least

[tulip anvil]

i wouldnt be opposed to bringing back dragonsight

if they made the targetting more intuitive atleast

all they need to do is make macros queueable

[worn bluff]

just give it something like dance partner to pre set a buddy

Lance Partner

[brisk scarab]

Speaking on this, is there any way to check how itd look on my character without acquiring it? I'm like 2 chaotic clears away from buying it, and I wanna know if it'd actually look good or if I should take the free gil

[visual geyser]

u on pc or console?

if pc you could always use anam or glamourer

if console ur hoed

[wicked delta]

If you’re on pc you could use glamourer

Console is kinda gg though

[brisk scarab]

Funny enough, I just recently built my first ever PC LOL

I'll check out the suggestion, ty!

[shy obsidian]

mac peeps can use glamourer, too...

[wicked delta]

Mac users don’t deserve rights

[jolly flume]

good morning chat

[jolly flume]

[wicked delta]

[brisk scarab]

I never understood the point of adding things such as try on for gear, but not for thinks like hair too

[wicked delta]

Yeah I think its silly that its not an option

Hell

Id even take a preview of how emotes look

Cus some of them look very different depending on gender

[whole estuary]

I'd like it if furnishing previews allowed to see how interactive furniture behaves

At the very least, mark them...

[lusty knot]

WAIT

DOING RESEARCH

NEW BOSS DID ACTUALLY GIVE NECROMANCER JOB

actual turnaround on the idea of the job? 👀

[trim frost]

?

[lusty knot]

ig ff5 unlisted port spoilers

[trim frost]

that doesn't necessarily mean that

[proper cave]

Sounds like new trial is MSQ as is the new usual

The existence of Phantom Necromancer does not confirm the possibility of a regular/non-OC version.

So not enough connective tissue to say for sure, despite the use of both pieces in different contexts.

[visual geyser]

fit

cant wait for the dye changes bruh

had to run to a city and get fukin marsh dye

so cringe

[shy obsidian]

how would necromancy even be uh. suitable for heroics? as far as we know, necromancy in this game involves literally reanimating bodies instead of just gathering plain ol' dead matter and forming em into flesh golems like GW2 does

maybe they can just do the.... latter and say "oh we found a more ethical way to perform necromancy" or some shit

[proper cave]

Yoshida has brought that up before. The ethics problem.

So they probably won't. Like how Thief became Rogue.

[tulip anvil]

it would be hilarious if the last trial was locked behind OC

[visual geyser]

Would require OC to even have a story

[worn bluff]

erm

were you sleeping this whole time

[jolly flume]

I'm like 9 hours ahead of normal

[worn bluff]

i think i understand why DRGs keep backflipping off the map now

backflipping just... fun

like i think it's not as much about greeding and going back in, but just bc it's so hard to resist backflipping

[daring pine]

rdm has the opposite

you couldn't pay me to use displacement

[worn bluff]

lol

[daring pine]

unless i'm in m11s

because it's useful for weapons

[worn bluff]

i watched a DRG backflip and get someone killed w stack bc they wanted to go back in to greed

[daring pine]

LOL

wait brb doing a prae section

[worn bluff]

but then later on they would backflip really early and throw like 3-4 ranged attacks

so i don't think it's about opti

it's just about backflipping to backflip

[jolly flume]

yeah I go out of my way to use movement skills for fun

[tulip anvil]

losing up time in p10s to break the webs with rdm backflip and dash

i miss rdm

[rapid whale]

hell yeah

opened 2 venture coffers

jet black into pure white

[coral saffron]

Stupid question: are collectible turn-ins and custom deliveries the only way to get orange scrips? This is my first time reaching endgame crafting

[amber fable]

No

Make level 100 collectibles for orange

And studium/tural dol/h quests

Altho those are one time only

[daring pine]

m6n moment

[tulip wraith]

wait i didn't notice the scholar

[daring pine]

https://tenor.com/view/zuh-cat-side-eye-stare-cat-staring-ca-gif-7404392670733848800

17k dps rpr

[tulip wraith]

am i wrong or shouldn't all dps be above the tanks

[daring pine]

yes

[fierce matrix]

Am I wrong or shouldnt dps be above healers

[daring pine]

lol

[tulip wraith]

they got special blood lilies

i need to have at open on more roulettes

i need to just see how bad some people really are

i should probably look at gnbs opener

[worn bluff]

it’s better to not know and just expect things to take longer

[tulip wraith]

i looked at it once like 7.2 and have since forgotten it and just vibe it every time

[worn bluff]

roulettes be like that sometimes

[tulip wraith]

fair but curiosity is in my blood

i was running the 95 dungeon and this dancer died like 3 times to each boss wasnt using standard step off cd

plus flubbing every other button

was consistently 4th in emnity

i really wish I could see how low the numbers were

[worn bluff]

as someone who went from 2.0 to 6.2 not not knowing what a GCD is i probably was one of those people at the bottom of the list in roulettes too

[rapid whale]

it's ok you're cute

[jolly flume]

[trim frost]

does anyone know when you kill m2s these days

[robust shoal]

I don't know I only did m1s

[trim frost]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gets-flung-gif-25527373

[dapper zealot]

You kill it when it dies :)

[robust shoal]

My rough estimate is probably between 4:30 and 5:30, you'd skip alarm 2 but have to do alarm 1

[trim frost]

phooey

alarm 2 is the actually good one

friendly reminder to scam your local hunters

[thin tartan]

wat dat mean

[trim frost]

so

u know pale rider

the hinterlands s rank

[thin tartan]

Yeaasss

Oh u need to do that

Right

[trim frost]

u can only spawn it on chance of opening a treasure chest in the hinterlands

[thin tartan]

To spawn

[trim frost]

which can only be done from wyvernskin

[thin tartan]

aw man

[trim frost]

1/6 chance to even get hinterlands btw

and then it's not even guaranteed spawn

xd

[visual geyser]

@trim frost fit valid?

[terse zodiac]

ultra potions is wild 😭 vercure is not a button

[visual geyser]

lol tbh youll probably be fine

[stray forge]

why four red mages

is that an achievement or something wth

[sick dirge]

boredom probably lol

[terse zodiac]

yeah ive seen a lot of only red mage / only healer parties lately idk why

for the bit i suppose

[visual geyser]

39 advanced coins smhhh

Need one more for elevated ester idk what weapon I should get

[worn bluff]

the tank ones are nice except for drk

[whole estuary]

4 WHMs is a time honored tradition

[amber fable]

1x pld 3x rdm would be better

Pld solo heals better than war at 100

[craggy marsh]

Is DN Uptime the Idyllic strat I should look at?

[worn bluff]

yeah

[thin tartan]

uesss

[craggy marsh]

bless

[worn bluff]

it’s the only one used in NA

[craggy marsh]

Been simming idyllic like a mf and I think I got it so I just wanted to make sure I was doing the right strat

next week ez clear

holy shit free money wow

[remote gate]

mods take our free money, or free easy clears, steam gift card, everything

[dull drum]

has pf settled on dn rep 2 or codex

[worn bluff]

reclears are split and probably will always be

prog tends to be more banana

in NA

[dull drum]

thats what ive noticed as well

[limpid edge]

i still need to clear it

didnt realize how close we are to 7.5 already

time flew while i was busy

[craggy marsh]

wtf another one

[stray forge]

where r u biscotti

[jolly flume]

his water broke

he's in the hospital rn

[rapid whale]

thoughts and prayers

[sinful brook]

Ezpz carry me too

[rapid whale]

me too plz

[visual knot]

as someone whose seen the prog parties since week 1, i can say with certainty,

that newer players are not really giving DN rep 2 the credit it had in early week prog.

Banana having its upsurge thanks to guidemakers gives it popularity, and it is a decent strat, but for prog parties, DN worked in the early weeks cause its recoverable.

Banana requires finesse, whereas DN can be brute forced with enough mit if anyone was too slow or died. You can't really brute force Banana.

[clear plume]

Not really why dn was used at all but go off

[visual knot]

its not so much why its used, but how prog parties who still need to prog rep 2, wall there until they get the banana movement down. DN you could get past the mech even with deaths.

cause all the baits are done right from the get go. Its why we saw so many idyllic parties so fast by week 3 pf.

granted people who did dn rep 2 on week 3 weren't slow to learn it since they were filtered by Tyrant.

[worn bluff]

i mean i can only go off my brief time progging rep 2 but i didnt feel that anything was a wall in that mech with banana?

i also did it with dn and it was fine

i don’t really see any major issues with either strat, minor downsides yes

[visual knot]

both strats work very well, but since they both are popular, they conflict.

and people join one pf and then do the other movement

[worn bluff]

i’m not sure what movement in banana is difficult or less recoverable

they’re just different

banana is definitely tighter on nether positioning but it’s usually more inexperience vs actual difficulty that gets people

[visual knot]

in banana, its baiting the wrath, then the stack, then the conals, then the other stack.

In DN, its the defams watching the nethers along with conals to the wall, then Melees and Ranged going to their stacks.

banana has less movement, better uptime, but more awareness of the steps doing it.

DN has "less steps," but less uptime. Not by much, but a little less uptime if its Nether far, and it was a melee defam.

[worn bluff]

i dunno, i feel like that’s a personal thing on how much awareness you need of the steps. to me they require the same amount of awareness on average

DN is slightly more awareness/reaction for nether, banana more for going back to reenactment cleaves

[visual knot]

they are both easy strats, but we see wipes in prog with them anyway.

cause when you 1st prog it, it feels tougher until you realize it isn't.

reclearing it, rep 2 is just "the mech where MT is getting their ass kicked from autos"

[worn bluff]

should have ramp for the beginning and then 90 for end even as pld using up 90 during sobat 1

it’s not too bad but i guess PF tanks are allergic to using mits sometimes

[visual knot]

many pf tanks do the same thing that too many dungeon tanks do.

save their mits for busters, and not the largely damaging autos they soak over 90% of the actual encounter

I'd be willing to argue the recent criterion captures this fully.

Pari does huge auto attack damage, and barely tickles with one single buster.

Idyllic dream is either an annoyance for healers, or auto bot mode, based on the MT's whims with their mit.

[low hearth]

mb

saving mit for the buster

[visual knot]

its why in duty roulette content, I like to let my tanks go to sub 10% hp before I bene them to see how they view their mits.

if I see an invuln and rampart go off at the same time at 30% hp, I know my comm is going to the dps.

if I see a pld use HG when they are at max hp, after a full wall pack in Mt. Gulg, I give them an applause and a scratch ticket.

[jolly flume]

[visual knot]

the only thing tanks need to fear from lindwurm is those hands it slaps them with all day.

[worn bluff]

me running out for defamation and still getting slapped with autos

he got long arms

[visual geyser]

thx criterion advanced

the sam weapon looks so cool too

[worn bluff]

if i knew this would happen i wouldn’t have used my last fru totem on vpr

[low hearth]

Nice weapon

[wicked delta]

[rapid whale]

6

[wicked delta]

i died two times

and won two coffers

worst players always get loot

[kind elm]

my goat washed?

[vestal hollow]

who are you to utter such things

[kind elm]

ive never died in a video game ever

[vestal hollow]

you jumped off a cliff in wow

and said

i died :(

[kind elm]

no i didnt

[worn bluff]

jumps off cliff

“i died to damage”

[thin fox]

the way that solo guy ended up beating hades jfc

he really is insane

[trim frost]

good shit

props on using the mh hood i still haven’t figured out how to incorporate that myself

[visual geyser]

Damn

Is that shi cheating

[limpid edge]

still got SoS

[visual geyser]

Think he’s done

[thin fox]

buddy he had to spend another 100 hours doing it i think he earned it

[thin fox]

p sure he said his goal is beating endwalker

[visual geyser]

Solo only btw

[thin fox]

i mean the rule was technically already broken in arr

[visual geyser]

I don’t actually watch just this vid I had no idea

[thin fox]

he had to make a second character that he spent 100 hours doing the same challenge on to catch it up to hades and then he played both characters at the same time to kill hades

[visual geyser]

I meant for arr

[thin fox]

oh

[limpid edge]

could he have multiboxed CT?

[visual geyser]

This last video is the only I watched

[thin fox]

well crystal tower isn't beatable with <15 people

[limpid edge]

just need to control 12 characters at once

[trim frost]

afaik the only way to get around the sos lb3 check is by rez cheesing so yeah you’d have to multi box that too

[limpid edge]

but you dont need them all to be constantly active

[thin fox]

technically yes but he would need to do it 15x so you can argue whether a computer would let you do this

[visual geyser]

I think it’s fair to not include ct tbf

Isn’t he doing these unsync tho?

[thin fox]

only when he has to

he always tries to do it sync silence echo first

[visual geyser]

You only need the 3 people to queue in and unsync does the rest

[thin fox]

with crystal tower he did it level sync'd and was joined by other people in his community also doing the solo stuff

and he verified that everyone was a legit solo character

it wasn't like he was joined by two people in dawntrail gear at level 100 or whatever. though its worth noting that ct isn't beatable with only 3 people no matter your sync.

[low hearth]

He had a alt or something?

Ain’t have time to watch ts

[thin fox]

.

[low hearth]

Oh

[limpid edge]

multibox should be fair game as long as it's one human player doing all the inputs

even the FF creator visited the japanese multiboxer who controlled 24 characters at once cuz he thought it was cool

[visual geyser]

Ye I multibox to rmt all the time

Jk

Square Enix it’s a joke

[low hearth]

does multi box count @grok

[visual geyser]

It’s nice but it’s way higher res then everything else in the game it’s hard to use

[dapper zealot]

in minecraft obviously

[dreamy whale]

Hewwo

[trim frost]

to me it's not like "higher res" it just kinda looks way differently detailed than everything else so it's kinda hard to match anything

dyeing is very different as well

[visual geyser]

Definitely weird for sure I wanna use the hope gear next

They all dye like shit

[worn bluff]

my new afk spot now is the arcadion waiting room

i love this song

[limpid edge]

too bad it's not a shared instance

i want to see other players in there

[visual geyser]

The green room? That’s a good theme

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/vibing-st6-cute-dog-dance-gif-16459631

[worn bluff]

yeah green room

[boreal hollow]

@limpid edge I multibox constantly 1. The client its self is designed to allow two instances. Unlike most programs especially on windows. (Linux you can get real crazy)

So long as 1. You are not doing it automated aka unattended there is zero issues and 2 so long as your activities are not creating a negative experience for other players.

No.2 is the unspoken metric for most things be it multibox or mod related.

As Yoshida said "its not our job to know whats on your computer."

However rmt activities or harrasing tactics are the fastest way to become a permanent fixture on their radar and leads to a ban.

[dreamy whale]

True let’s execute weeaboo police

[boreal hollow]

Take for example that dood that wrote a mod that exposed the owners of the retainers he made it strictly to hunt down and harass the other players that were undercutting him.

He probably would have avoided issues all together had he NOT harassed em

[craggy marsh]

the fact they haven't all been banned is really nuts

[limpid edge]

are they still DMing people?

or just sit there afk

[dapper zealot]

They have been banned by they just easily bypass it

[craggy marsh]

both

[boreal hollow]

Those guys due to the money they make have countless emails ready to register and setup a new account with ease they only partially fullporrof way is to hardware ban but that can also be bypassed with spoofers

[buoyant zealot]

What is happening

[visual geyser]

They make money?

[buoyant zealot]

I don't wanna scroll up that hard

[trim frost]

that whole playerscope situation was so funny

[worn bluff]

this combo of messages makes it sound like weeaboo police is making tons of money

[buoyant zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/bootlicker-boot-licker-bluelivesmatter-gif-22558166

How some people are moving after new PLL

[wicked delta]

just died to m10s tankbuster