#endgame-lounge
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if you do a ffa formation, you'll run into traffic and kill each other
i do + and just follow the lines on the ground
it is the worst because tanks cant wait that long
or vaguely follow the lines
they will murder anyone on their path
Oh
After struggling with train ex I finally beat it 4 time back to back
was wondering why my cohealer was spamming helios and barely doing any damage lmao wtf
m9s btw
Epic
???
about who stands near the wall for watersnaking
Can I see it
Were they dead on the floor most of the time????
no im too lazy to redact names
Wha
past 2 tries I got clapped by water on the fire side
only 1 death
this is why chat2 is goated
one click to redact the entire log
that sounds against tos friendo :^)
I am a law abiding citizen
i love breaking tos
i love breaking toes
Send it to me directly
But now im curious T_T
You can't make us curious then leave us hanging
I forget that's a thing
just a tank leaving
But isnt it set who stands where
i literally have no clue what you're talking about
im not risking
Juup 2/2 only works if fire goes straight to middle and doesnt run to the side
telling pf to do that
it was in the original toxic friends strat
yeah im saying
3/1 split is so chill ngl
we were in middle
for this that reversed healer will hit
Jup someone was way off then
man
at the rate that i actually get to my prog point
im starting to worry ill fucking forget how to do the prog point 
its because water party has to move in reverse for that one im pretty sure
and its unintuitive to people when you haven't moved for reverse previously
just ignore the cast name for that portion yeah
you always dodge mid after your water cleave
2/2 is fine imo
ranged can just dodge through the melee puddles anyways and won't get a bleed if they're fast
no need to step out to the side
with 2/2 as fire i pull the boss towards water boss a bit as its going off
basically line yourself up with where all the water people are dodging
what i mean is if the healer stands exactly where they are there and it's reverse, the extra cone goes like this, but if the healer stands even a few steps to the right
that extra cone hits the party
i think the biggest mistake of this raidplan is putting the healer and ranged so far away from the person on the wall
not stacking the proteans closer together
Pf arguments are like the most intresring
if all the fire people line themselves up with where the water people dodge to then everyone lives, or everyone dies
if the healer was so far out that they kill all the water people too, nothing’s saving it
what i like about 3/1 is that fire doesnt even have to look at what water is doing
and im not sure why this "better" snaking didnt take that into account
3-1 is mirror mirror from fru and that's an ultimate mechanic so it's too hard for savage raiders
shrug
even when im water I dont look at what water is doing
i don’t look at water people until their first proteans go out. then i just walk towards the water boss
Snakes alive! It's the birth of a new Lindwurm!
chiyo
can u play prange this tier

What
I can like
PLAY it
but I have like negative gear for it
full crafted and one tome piece
What
on my alt
deny that idiot, kick em
post this on the bird site and farm like 3k likes

its ok we’re 6/8 now
idyllic parries fill incredibly slowly
most people still trying to find the dps buttons on their keyboards to get past 11 unfort
wait so true
REACHED M10S ENRAGE
Finally
And consistently too
Now i need some advice
2nd pot window should be after Parallel Aerial right?
And i should Caster LB at the end of the fight correct?
as if prange damage matters
thats more than enough for anything
Also got a question! For M9S SGE, when is a good time to philosophia?
saying that about a fight where everyone and their mother is enraging at decimal percentages
lol
just remove mch and smn from your parties, easy clear
-# /s
enrage be under .274%
So uh what’s the Flail priority for us melee DPS
Do we uh. Prioritize the one on our side of the field or
fuck you summoners
hey that's not nice
Poor Cotton
thank you summoners
for being the reason egiglamour exists
so i can use carby on scholar
ty summoners
Bruh I'm not even summoner this tier 
I’d ask if hell froze over, but you already live in Australia
Wanted to play a different caster each raid tier
Already did picto and summoner last 2 tiers lol
its because this one sets up consistency in movement, you always move regardless if its reverse or not
If the water healer hugs the tank, you won't snipe the fire puddles anyway
Pvp happens if water isn't close enough to the tank
I've only see pvp happen in PF lol
the musk adds to damage mitigation
I mean it literally does in Inscryption
I mean you do that with both, the front of the boss is safe for both 2/2 and 3/1
You know it took me 3 reads to understand what they meant lol
I might be stupid
if they have to nerf the boss HP for SMN then add that to the SMN’s rDPS
wait now we have to nerf SMN
Tru
I’m annoyed
So that static I’m in got to arena split in m10s
It’s a half static so we fill the rest with pf
We got their once I might add
But none of us struggled with bubble, so I suggested we set our prog point to arena split
but this was literally because people are not fucking hitting deep blue
They were against it cus they don’t wanna “prog lie”
he was constantly like +4%
Don't they equalise hp tho
Anyway we’re probably not gonna clear this week cus we’re gonna do bubble prog with a bunch of idiots again
arent you the provoke guy
nope !
67 pulls?
Just another 29 to go
my oomf who just cleared had 120ish
they didnt see past arena split till like pull 80 though
idk why ive been lucky with pfs
oof
no too much work
I mean a lot of these are like differnt prog points
if you read them they are all the same thing
C41, Split arena, C41, Clear Party, C41, ?, Clear party, ?, C41 a lot of differnce especially considering C41's wouldnt want to play with eachother
not even me?
they prob have it set to duty complete so they cant combine parties if they wanted to
because they are locking out the other party leader
they cant combine, all of them are looking to be carried
there's something funny about the 1/8 parties with c41
like normally id expect them to at least bring some helpers
also dont get ahead of yourself there lol you can still get cursed with 20+ bad PF pulls before clearing
This set looks shockingly piratic
What jobs use tome legs rn?
corsair confirmed
casters, drg, brd i know for sure
Yeah, casters favoring crit take tome legs
Which is..all of them except sps BLM
drg rpr dnc i know does
..mainly cuz im staring at my raid groups gearing sheet
rpr and drg basically share the same gear except for 1 skill speed meld last time i checked
yeah
rpr takes 1 direct hit and makes it sks
what would the coolster meld
sps rpr
That looks very cool
Id use it for a Machinist
pld sps meld incident
🥹
we were on our way to clear
but tank didn't move out for water kb at end
and everyone died
Just trying to think for the future on what job I might want to gear 2nd if I gear a second job
me when I am deeply impacted
smn
Nah SMN already gets the occult gear
sploosh
kaboom
deep impact do be deep
Reminds me of 1.7% wipe at m10 because I didn't move away for impact
And party died
And then it took 30 more pulls to clear....
when the tyrant screams RRRRRAAAAAAGH
I wiww nowt yiewd my thwone! >_<
no you get blacklisted

long live da king
fucking M12S P2 parses are a joke
just tomestone them and see if theyre doing bad
or do i have to go through every single tomestone window and click every single pull
Bro dont mention it
i had nothing tether for staging
and I just
didnt press it till i got back :)
we also just brought our 9th man through it after she literally hasn't stepped foot in the instance once
and she learned the entirety of P2 in like 1 hour
genuinely no clue how anybody does this tier on a tank other than paladin
banana codex, world 2nd(?) team
banana codex is a newly formed wp team this expansion
okay that makes more sense
that's actually done ridiculously well for being new
lucrezia
lets see the uis 
lucrezia
idk you can make an argument for dark knight with the amount of cleaves they have
grats jp (it was harder on na servers)
the only reason they won was cause of the ddoses

i stand by that
cleave literally only has relevance in one fight and just barely in another
fuck you JP
def warrior
pld > gnb > drk > war
shadow is huge
i think for cleave
pld so popular
how do you be a plaadin without falling asleep
?
it's too good
its the same as every other tank?
like i get its good and all
but its gameplay is just kinda like a more boring gunbreaker for me idk
they are the same level of entertainment now
why don't you just play gunbreaker then
this but literally 
nah it's really good for prog
do you tknow this?
i’ve been a paladin one trick for 7 tiers and 5 ultimates
my entire party died on the mechanic before idyllic and i managed to sustain myself all the way to towers for the sake of prog
hell yea that's why pld rules
WAR by a long shot, my favorite is that decimate is a gain on 4
STILL
me when i talk to chiyo
war players are worse than war
<job> players are worse than <job> is just universally true
everyone sucks at the game
im bad at uptiming weapons consistently, i think it's time i learn to mmo mouse
time to learn controller pal
no I think that's a gaming chair issue
fumbling my fingers around the damn keyboard pressing my buttons
i envy controller
ok so play it
cuz they have better movement controls than keyboard
if im gonna redo muscle memory, i might as well do mmo mouse
isnt that cuz your hair giga long
like getting a random strand of hair in my face mid pull is NOT IT
i bought an mmo mouse last year but the side buttons are stiff af, i cant get used to it
is thumb fatigue a thing for mmo mouse users? curious
or does their thumb get hella jacked?
my right hand is jacked
from
When I used an mmo mouse is got thumb pain yeah. But the one I had wasnt super hard to press. Now I use Azeron keypads tho.
is that a gamer glove
Sort of lol... the cyborg is a hand shaped keypad with 3-4 buttons per finger, and a joystick for movement.
Are you AI generated by the state
Man I literally just woke up why don’t I have something nice to say
My bad
go order a pizza
Its 9 in the morning
it's never the wrong time for a pizza
superchain mnemonic
point blueank
green ???
orangezontal
purtical
green is dynamo
you don't really have to care about the colors though
it's always safe in, n/s of orb
and same for the other
which I think is kinda lame but thats how it goes
winners win
okay augusta relax
Its too early to be alive I wish I could go back to sleep

Actually so true
Gpose hot women
ya
short fire line
you just have to pad out your ice phase for long enough with instant casts for lucid to tick a few times
fully instant too
bc you dont have to cast b3
yes just pad
i got a 70 with full 770 gear like not even train weapon
i mean what
wtf are melees doing
padding
I watched my bf try to do a M9 reclear and it was pretty dire
Ninja in the party had a lobotomy
i see
TA?
their crit was just in the grave then
(the one at 1m is just on the coffinmaker so ignore it)
trinity avowed?
that was from a 0.04% m12p2
yoship shat on their plate that run
because holy shit
let's pretend
gg
you know exactly what kinda joke I wanna make to go along with this one
maybe I'll redo it

37k dps with aug tome sounds like bad uptime 
Unless they really got shit on by crit rng
Watch genuinely ruined my day by Nishikou and millions of other FF XIV Online videos on Medal. #ffxivonline, #finalfantasyxivonline
Lol

They got the clear next pull but it’s funny
aw hell no
whose shields fuckin expired?
mb
jesus christ dude why does idyllic just keep on going
i didnt even notice thats what happened, i was blaming dnc for no samba
this goes hard
yes 💯
they got the clewar
its just ??? whgat the prange used samba on thats 80s before it, is that the aoe at end of idyllic before the tankbuster
has to be that or the last set of clone stacks yeah
surely youre not wasting mit on a 6 person stack in pf strat though
even 120s are back from the first set of stack defams
bc pf does 6/2 on them
I got news for you
??????????????????????????????????????????
😭
prange players r not beating the allegations
if they didnt use samba there theyre taking a whole third of their hp
curious why theyd even have it there tbh
id prob be using it on the 4 stack defams before towers
theyre using it on the uh meteor cast it looks like
which is fair enough thats where i used it in prog i think
still probably one of the easier final fights to heal in a while though that comes to mind
lots of movement but nothing too spammy fight wide or anything
top p6 vibes
tbh it was way less tight after we started doing 1/3 on the blood mana soaks
freed up spreadlo for the idyllic cast and then we just have like all cds going into the rest so it's chill
(cheese being all beta stack south, all alphas eat north when your buff is swapping)
nah we just did it like
as you had the RB mix debuff
and you can eat things without punishment
meant for letting u tank swap
you get a gcd you can run into orbs without a DD as an alpha before u become beta
it's always th2d split though right so theoretically we could have a tank always solo it I think
maybe? 3/1 is just free enough tho that idk if its worth looking more into, ik speeds groups are considering aggro management to shirk onto beta melee though
so they dont need to soak an orb
but i doubt even that will matter enough for them to bother
oh I mean the near/far lp stack at the end
I just like thinking of ways to abuse tanks so I can heal less
curing waltz heals people up for the aoe anyways
rep/samba covers both hits
easy to do for free
yeah its like just barely close enough for 15s to catch
it's pretty chill anyways now that the orb pops do like nothing
but i need to bedge so ill cya round
okay i watched wesk’s clear of m12s i think i can digest the mechanics now
775 lock is probably fine right
and i'm the angriest inch
you never struck me as a one incher
Can we move on from inches?
to feet?
it’s a game of centimeters
show me your 🦶 🧑🏭

ayo
on it
inchwurm amirite
made it to 1.56% enrage
the dps check lowkey not that bad if people dont have brain tumors yo
Lmao so true
Week 1 we got nin weapons and week 2 we got pct weapon
We have 4/8 with weapons rn which means next week we i get my gnb weapon 
We about to explode the fights up

surely you wont see 100 more of those
Mhm, if all goes well I think my static might clear m10s today as we're doing it blind
bro i dont even care about the weapon wipes arena split is way more fucking annoying
✨ majestic meteorain ✨
i think the fuck not 
thinkers
i should play overcooked at some point
it's funny af
some of the stages are made by psychopaths
look in da mirror and tell me what ya see
why the hell ur neck so long
el*zen
Elezen all suffer from connective tissue disorder
Id just end it at that point
AHHHHH
FUCK YOYUUUU\
DIE MOTHERFUCKER
THE NEW
CHAMPION
IS
FUCKINGV
BORN
AHAHJHS]FDKJLDSAFBUJKHLIFDESNRD
nice
lindwurm time!
final graph
the pull i get a damage down

sti
ll got a green

it was half loot and the thing i didn't need dropped but idc

i got my clear
decided to check some stats
m11s took me 350 pulls
m1-7s all combined took me 347 pulls

couldnt weave my invuln in time so we wiped to third tower in a flawless pull
this game is too hard

By the way what is the issue with M11S again
Very possible i will face it this week so im getting ready
Damn
Well i hope it wont be that hellish on my end but i might actually not go as BLM for it
@valid solar did you live

the most egregious wipe ive seen so far
was a healer using lb3 to revive one singular person
so we enraged

8 players cannot lock in enough to avoid stupid ass damage downs and meet the dps check
impossible mech
The 7 adds that spawn with you
350 pulls?...
Train ex took me 16 and I feel like that was a lot, oh god im never going to clear
dude dps checks are like non existent if people press buttons and stop noobing out during orbital omen
350 is definitely an outlier but as a general rule savage will take more pulls to clear
Never done a savage so m9s will be my first, if I get around to it
Been trying to get the OC phantom weapon even if its worse than the train one for scholar so im just wasting my time 😔
It is mostly bat memes I feel
everyone ping bungo with your progress past m10 to make him suffer

mb but drop the share code
static but most of us are new
basically pf
I don't have it sadly
Technically m1s was my first, but I only did 3 blind runs and then had to leave so my first real one*
Would love a static but also between work and sleep I never get a good amount of time to raid :c
Rookie numbah dont sweat it
Vamp Stomp and Adds 2 tend to kill PF a lot
I feel like Orbital is far easier than it looks
Thinking of making a switch to RDM now
Hell in a cell memes
I peeked at my tomestone and briefly disassociated because I thought i had cleared M11S in my sleep or something
no, no im still in purgatory
god them arena split trolls are so fucking irritating
The clear was promised to you
Congrats on 11 clear
m11 ost is peak though
It feels peak once you hear it in 12s again
I didnt even want to do 12 today
but
I wanted to see a raid
that wasnt m11s
so I had to join fresh
tonights a dud night
2.0% enrage all around
Next week should be better
If you love pf ability to do 11 dps check you’ll love 12
Guaranteed accessory plus a glaze from books

Smile
arena split wipes be making me so angry yo
someone at 4% enrage is maybe like 50% done with the fight lowkenuinely
never saw past arena split
Well yeah, if they could do weapons they wouldn’t be at 5% enrages
hardest mech in the fight lowkey
how are these people so inconsistent
Hardest mech this tier is vamp stomp frfr

feels absolute shit to see me still doing greys but cant really see any other optimizations
like maybe I should solar lunar this? idk
What fight?
m11s
enrage parse is kinda jank just go off your actual rdps
idc what i get, just lemme clear m11s
11s should be a double lunar with no RoW hold
36k~ rdps
36k is fine honestly
my OST rankings for DT raids
that's good to hear
You're on a job that was commonly gear fed
Until you're full bis you're going to be unlucky
feels sam/mnk/drg man
feeding drg 
but yeah 36k is like lowish compared to where you wanna be (~37k) but its not awful
so many dps in 11 are at like
34
33
at least its better than 10 where most dps struggle to beat 32k rdps
Yeah i still don’t know how I waste 2 trick attacks in 9 and walk away with purple ndps with 770 crafted weapon
Dps players are BAD BAD
Something something ogcd cleave
i only did 34k on picto in my first 10 clear but i think i died
did 37 in reclear but my 2nd pot got fucked
F
cuz i always have
to dump
SO much shit
into bubble
because people cant hit 1-2-3
so my reopener gets griefed
I send two animal muse a mog and a hammer
i had to send 2 hammers
And I think 100 gauge

That's wack
and we barely cleared it
Once melee in bubble becomes the norm surely it never becomes an issue again
dude i got so mad
Well except drg
i was doing the reclear w my tank/blm friends
in party the sch, a stranger
gives blm the bubble
unprompted
just says "hey blm do u want bubble"

BLM HAS MORE MOVEMENT THAN PICTO
put the drg in the bubble 
Cries in jumps
do u pop 2s on cd after ppl get gear in 10
Most groups are just holding 2s during bubble until it ends
probs depends on KT
Why would you hold 2s less when you get more gear
barse
idk bro thats why im asking

drg bubble is fine then
This is probably what’ll end up being meta for better parties
Gives u three buffs of double cleave
bet
will there be a big difference in dps when tomestone weapons arrive next week
it would be my first accessory POGGIES
define big difference
like m11s parties will actually be able to pass the dps check
1 single tome weapon added about 400k auto atk dmg in my group so thats about 0.4% of m11s hp x4 thats abotu 1.2% lighter check
wait
thats bad math
more than 1.2%
because that was literally just auto attacks
so probably like 3% lighter check overall
but that's tome weap, who has that!?
me since we had four weeks of prep
ngl i never keep up on my tome weapon
wasnt it 3
4 was just that week's tomestones no
or am i dumbge
i never bought one because i cleared before they were avail
also congrats on getting to 11
hopefully the checks r much easier next week
i haven't gotten to 11 lmfao
haven't even started 10
need to reclear 9s tonight for a book and then again tomorrow
after that ill probably start working in 10s in pf
i ride the inferno
i thought he said i like the inferno in a horny kind of way
mb
What a drag
i thought you were implying going thru the 11s enrage jail
10s looks great though and hopefully as asschecks to reclear
smile..
every floor gets harder is all i can really say
Don't you need 7 universal tomestones?
M10s drops a full tomestone
you need 7 holoblades from a weekly m12n clear or 1 unitome from clearing 10s
so you are currently at 6 holoblade?
Oh 10s drops them too
5
but tomorrow will be 6 and then next week is 7
ya ok i thought i miscounted the weeks
Pf will still enrage 11 from next week onward but it will be easier
Is the damage really that much different from the 775 weapon?
the auto atk dmg alone was about 400k
on m11s
which is about 0.4% hp
if you include increased weapon skill dmg it probably toals to about 1% hp
from 1 player alone
if everyone were running tomestone weapons then it could be 8%
ehhhhhhhhh
and that 8% could be the difference between a clear and an enrage
Which class? Just looking at the scholar one and its +5 +4 to stats which doesnt seem like that much of an improvement at all
that sounds like huge overestimate
probably is
its probably closer to like 5%
+5 ilvl leading to overall 8% increase would imply you'd be up to an overall 32% from raid weapons
i know i'm just saying it's slight overestimate
o i meant to dae
i should have replied instead mb confusion
its one of those, "will it help? yes. is it required? no"
Seems like it would more so be 1% more dps on raw damage just from stats
its like 1% for melee/caster maybe, maaaaaybe 0.7% from phys/tanks, then like 0.5% from healers or something like that
Not saying your wrong ofc but it just seems like a lot
now you’re in the m11s pits soldier
🫡
it was 1 chest but I didnt win anything though 
gl bro

it’s hard to look at the numbers in the stats and know how meaningful they are without the damage formula
weapon damage > main stat > secondary stat in terms how much they impact damage
cant wait to get trolled by arena split for another 70 pulls in m11
watching someone run across the middle of the arena for four way fireball instead of planting 🔥
👉 🔥
Depends also though right, like if your main stat on the 775 weapon is crit and 2nd is det, but for the 780 its flipped so you go from 400 crit 300 det to 404 det and 303 crit
the balance says weapon damage always wins regardless of substats
Im sure theres calcs for this so i dunno why i would theory craft it when I could google jt
For all classes?
Interesting
What about like piety, is 1 weapon damage worth losing 300 det for
To trade for an, arguably, useless stat
i haven’t done the math but
their statement seems pretty definitive with no exceptions

Will take a look at the planner, only recently got into min maxing my gear
it’s also because higher ilvl means higher main stat (i.e. str, dex etc)
first, show me your footwork.
which are also more meaningful than substats like crit
And they're down! Can they recover from this?
in an enrage party while tethers are being stretched
“oh no! the challenger has fallen out of the ring!”
????
happens bro
i fucking pressed my scroll lock button and it made me walk forward
trying to scroll up and see if it was inner or outer


idk why mfs just dont use the same fucking waymarks
yo orbital damage downs in week 2 is lowkey crazy
different waymarks and different order for first towers is so pointless for arena split
now to take your measure!
ngl i don’t even know the starting lineup for arena split usually. i just treat it like a conga

i think its tank and ranged north towers
i just body language and hope no one runs across the fucking arena and takes the tower
you have like 20 seconds before the towers go off anyways
me when you take my melee spot and force me to use ranged attacks (im going to stand next to you and greed)

i’m used to my spot being taken because of all the healer LBs in prog and people being turned around
I'm not trying to be like ruby from partyfinder 
who
This lady on primal pf I think it was whose always advertising her feet pics in pf
I'm of the understanding she actually makes a decent amount of money off it
I get that but like on healers, piety is considered useless, so just wondering if losing 30 main stat and 1 weapon damage is worth 300 crit, or 300 det/spell speed, etc
the answer seems to be no but you could check with healer mentors in balance to be sure
theyre in aether too
Rubi is in all DCs
Even if it’s slightly worse, getting mostly free piety is good in prog, losing percent of a percent damage for 300 some odd piety is a great trade off
get back into the 12 mines you filthy animal
if you see a party finder for m9s hosted by a shiggy stiggy feel free to join i WILL give you tbns and oblations for the raid wides
gg i think inx is on drk
i need picto practice so im gonna go elp clearers
i'm on my alt rn which is caster
legendary pictomancer named fire four
idk i just picked a 10 party cuz it was almost full
im gonna fucking stand next to you on a spread mechanic
IM ALREADY CASTTINGGGGGGG
and invul so I dont die
do you want to see two bros do things together
That’s so real Mfs talking about things that don’t exist like “parallel aerial” or some shit like let me just do the fight
they said some weird acronyms like ptt or something idk let’s just go
Just watched a whm say “what’s with shield healers and being scared to do any healing I swear they’re all useless” and this is bros healing parses so far
whm talking opinion ignored
at least he cleared 11
The scariest part is while doing the only rapture whm special they’re still parsing only green in damage
you will never guess what the blm casted next
|| if you guessed fire 4 give yourself a cookie ||
m10s is making me want to do vile things to the nearest homo sapien
M11s is worse dawg

functional app discord
😭
wiping the entire raid because you can’t stand on the top corner of a waymark
Yep
Mhm, I've been doing m10 with my static and it is pretty chill
But I guess it is more of a pf problem
it's great
you. you are the closest.

im the closest actually
man im so glad i'm a vulpes vulpes and immune to this
true, solanum tuberosum is different from homo sapien as well
youre a lalafell. you are also close enough.
will send feet pics for m10s clear
Yeah?
Fire tether is doing 60% of dmg to it already
yeah i know
Your group must suck a lot then
fire tether does 90% of its HP
vro 70% of the groups in pf can't even move the fire tether north/south properly

i love how cartoonishly dumb the bubble thing is
and how the fire guy doesn’t realize he’s helping break the bubble
summoner players be throwing me off yo
fucking titan covering my screen during scythe weapon
👉 🪨
Is part of the show
FUCK YOU AND YOUR 18 MEME BOARDS THAT IVE SEEN 29 TIMES ALREADY RIGHT BEFORE WE PULL
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