endgame-lounge

[mortal flower]

That's like the auto combo and stuff right?

[jolly flume]

pfradar is top 2 plugins of all time

1 is still noclippy I fear

[tawdry delta]

What does pfradar do

[mossy eagle]

PFradar lets you see everyone in a party before joining and gives a button to check tomestone/log for that fight.

FFLogsviewer only works on parties you joined but you can customize the data it pulls to be from other fights

[jolly flume]

displays the name, logs, and tomestone of everyone in a pf even when you're not in it

[mortal flower]

That's cool. We should have that

[mossy eagle]

My only complaint about PFradar (or maybe I haven't found the setting yet) is that I can't grab logs from other fights easily

Tbh I don't care if someone had a scuffed clear once in week 1 and 2. Meanwhile I have fflogsviewer set up to show me all savage parses in my party throughout all of Arcadion, and single digit parsers stick out like a sore thumb when it happens over 12 fights

[kind elm]

mb

honey b beat 2 is IMPOSSIBLE ok

mandatory damage down mecahnic

[jolly flume]

everyone fucks up at some point

[mossy eagle]

Still stuck on mouser 1

[jolly flume]

you can't consistently be dogshit and still externalize the blame though

sorry

[mossy eagle]

Yeah for sure, which again is why I like fflogsviewer

Gives a very long term picture of a player

[mortal flower]

It's okay. Just give up last tier.

That's what I did

[mossy eagle]

Which matters for M11S

[mortal flower]

I wanted to prog seriously in p9 and p10s

And I crashed out on PF

Now all I do is EXs and chaotic

[kind elm]

my 95 locked in as a 92 so its not orange, does this mean im washed

[true beacon]

P9S I get

But P10S wasn’t the worst

[finite plank]

no, you just didn't crit hard enough

[jolly flume]

back to runescape with you, you're just not cut out for this game

[kind elm]

💔

[mossy eagle]

Back to the prayer flicking mines

[mortal flower]

It was the transition from P9S prog/clear/reclear into P10S prog that killed me

[kind elm]

back to tick manipulating granite 🥀

[random needle]

The snapshot is (almost) never bs, you just need to adjust

If you get hit by the same thing 6 or 7 pulls straight and complain about the snapshot, I'm going to assume you're new to having a brain

[mossy eagle]

"my b I got lag"

[kind elm]

no fr

[jolly flume]

ORBITAL OMEN BY THE WAY

[mossy eagle]

Weird how they always get lag right when it's a PBAOE

[kind elm]

ppl will be like "the snapshot on this is so bad" but like ok sure the snapshot is bad

its also consistently in the same place everytime so idk man just fucking dont get hit

[mossy eagle]

Orbital omen is the definition of "holy shit just move faster"

Center dodge is free if you're not waiting 8 eons to move

[clear plume]

My 80 on 12-2 locked in at a 74

I’m washed

[jolly flume]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[mossy eagle]

Washed

Quit the game

[kind elm]

i thought you were supposed to be good?

[mossy eagle]

Nice blue nerd (I have not cleared M11S)

[kind elm]

nice blue idiot (i cant consistently uptime axe on m11s)

[finite plank]

sry, all i got was a blue from m11s being the lb slave

3 times

[mossy eagle]

Someone on reddit mentioned being rank 2 and purple on M12S-2 because like 15 people on their job cleared which meant they parsed an 88

[finite plank]

except one was a grey

[clear plume]

Well yeah, that’s normal

[kind elm]

i think its funny i got a 92 with 18 unmends

m9s is impossible content

[mossy eagle]

I got like 3 DDs on M9S and got a purple

[random needle]

I still need to clear m9 💀

[finite plank]

i got a 92 for m9s

and i got a 98 for m10s

[mossy eagle]

Meanwhile I keep forgetting the adjusted opener on M10S because I'm dogwater so I'm forever blue

[vestal hollow]

nothing was harder than p9s i had to go pld for clemency

[mossy eagle]

I miss P8S

[finite plank]

what about p10s

harrowing hell

[mossy eagle]

I'm excited for idyllic dream I hope it gives me happiness again

[vestal hollow]

p10s i had to clemency in every bonds 3

[mortal flower]

There is no such thing as harrowing hell. Everyone doesn't know how to make the wall

[true beacon]

Tbh

The wall wasn’t that bad to make

[clear plume]

It was impossible to make

[finite plank]

it's less the wall and more the mits

[clear plume]

[true beacon]

It was always the toss-up for Bonds 3 if I had to lb3 or not

The rush of killing Panda tho about 2s to full enrage really was something tho

[finite plank]

that shit hurt hard and all i could do is feint and pray

[jolly flume]

pf is already on their way to pick weirdge strats for 12 I see

role orbs just has more places for each player to go than l-r prio and even dn said not to do dn idyllic

[clear plume]

Bro how THE FUCK

[jolly flume]

but we're doing dn idyllic

I guess

[clear plume]

Did pf

Decide on the uh

Ordering of their shit on platform break???

[jolly flume]

which platform break

[clear plume]

P1

[jolly flume]

oh act 3?

idk what they do lol

I'm just skimming pfs rn to see what people are doing

[kind elm]

my group is on pace to clear a fight a week so far
cleared m10 this week and we're on pace to hopefully see enrage atleast this week

which im very happy with

im guessing 12 will take us a bit tho

fight looksc razy

[mossy eagle]

@normal summit please don't show DN Idyllic. Force PFs hand on this

[jolly flume]

it's just because saya and youko explained their strat in the only two video guides available week 1

which is like, fair

week 1 strat

but the caro raidplan just makes more sense man

and it doesn't have a video attached to it so pf can't do it

saya himself said to do the caro raidplan instead of dn elsewhere

[clear plume]

After doing both strats I can say dn has an easier end half of it

But the dn start is

“Do the mechanic” and frontloads all thinking

Remembering where you order wise for stack spreads after first portal setup is spooky but mechanic is easy after it

Caro is like, sets up the start easy but has more running later on

[craggy marsh]

Chat they have a clanker in my shoprite now instead of a human

[clear plume]

Put tape over its scanner

[worn bluff]

me being nervous to join an arena split party because i won't be perfect on arena split

it's all weapon meme inside

[craggy marsh]

I stood in the way for a few seconds before I was told to move

It's sad bc you know for a fact someone was fired so they could put that thing there

[worn bluff]

hi my party keeps getting these debuffs during orbital omen. is this part of the mechanic? how do we resolve them?

[mortal flower]

Can't wait for AI to make UBI a thing.

That's happening soon.

Definitely.
Definitely.
Definitely...

[echo ibex]

Feel dying on prays on 11 is more on peoples dragging tether correctly rather than position because

So ugly

[sleek moon]

idk why every time i see that name my brain skips the t and i read majestic meowrath

[worn bluff]

omg me too

majestic meowth

[sleek moon]

we've had too many meowdies it seems

[worn bluff]

fearsome furball

[jolly flume]

there are two things I don't like about it, one is putting defas E/W and making 3 people fuck off up north coming from e/w instead of just 1, and then their tower debuff resolution is just like strictly worse than zenith

I also find their whole clone setup a lot less intuitive but meh that's a personal thing

[low hearth]

Mrs. Butterworth's 🔥

[jolly flume]

like what is this man why are we just flexing spots for fun

[clear plume]

The towers are awful yeah

We luckily have the gear that we can do the true dn Strat

“Fuck it up and clear anyways”

👍

[jolly flume]

so true

[clear plume]

Idk how pf ever decided the video guide that says “this is what we were trying to do, but we never were able to do it right before we cleared anyways” is the Strat they should use

Just bc it had a video

[jolly flume]

the caro raidplan also explains everything much more in detail but pf cant read anyway so I guess I'm not surprised

[jolly flume]

ex7 cheese sun tzu be like

[tawdry delta]

does anyone else hear "i have long hair, i have gray hair" in absolute tyranny

[worn bluff]

hardest thing for PF to do in M11

is resolve spread markers

[pale blade]

oh shit that’s Honey B. and Vamp yuri on the tl

that’s how they handle their rivalry

[rain geode]

3 Wipes disband is already a little crazy, 3 Wipes disband on Primal is insane you really think your filling more then 1 party?

[worn bluff]

3 wipes disband isn't that unusual

but yeah primal can't really pick and choose

[stray forge]

i had a lot of parties like that on monday

gets easier to do the more desperate people get later in the week

:^)

[worn bluff]

me watching people dying during meteorain as a tank that doesn't have to do any real mechanics

[rain geode]

Me in the bubble during deep aerial

[finite plank]

help

[pale blade]

no

[loud nymph]

what the fuck, who uses strategy board for actual strats

[worn bluff]

mb

[rapid whale]

smile the rpr legend is mad at me

[pale blade]

We always ask, “Why is it always the Reaper?” but never “Why is it never the Reaper?”

[stray forge]

Ive always been mad at you but i never thought of myself as a legend

[trim frost]

big and huge even

[jolly flume]

winning with a 77 is crazy work

[trim frost]

i genuinely did not think i would

[rapid whale]

cooly joined and i kicked

popped off at me abt my pull count

[stray forge]

Meanie

[pale blade]

tell him that we still think about him every day

[trim frost]

cooly in my nn

</3

[stray forge]

What

How are so many people in this novice network

Surely there are like 4 mentors per actual novice

[jolly flume]

unfortunately it takes like 2 hours to become a mentor if you actually want to

[stray forge]

Waow I thought it would take 0 hours tbh

But no

Maybe if I want achievements someday in like 4 years

[jolly flume]

I just did it for the crown ngl

sometimes I'm even helpful

I farmed like 700 comms in a month it sucked

[trim frost]

i want the mentor roul achievos

i dont show my crown otherwise because its like a mark of the beast

[stray forge]

I thought people just did that in guildhests

[jolly flume]

@kind elm what's wrong with danish people you're like next to them

toby is ranting about danish people

[stray forge]

All Europeans hate each other

Is what I’m learning

[kind elm]

theyre like the worst scandinavian country

26 vowel sounds having ass

[jolly flume]

I thought that was gonna be a lot more offensive than a linguistic critique ngl

[kind elm]

their written language is fine they just decided to sound like alcoholics on a 6 month long bender when actually speaking it

[jolly flume]

"what good have danish people done for this earth, just a terrible country"

im dying

[kind elm]

no go off

[sleek moon]

And soon astrope

[kind elm]

like just to put into perspective all the three scandinavian countries can write to eachother in their language and be 100% understood

but swedish and norwegian people cannot speak to danish people

because they sound so wrong

also wtf overcooked and u didnt invite me

[fierce matrix]

no actually

i want to take the stacks N/S

even tho we come back E/W

[wicked delta]

WHY ARE YOU EXPOSING ME

[kind elm]

"exposing" yeah exposing you for being correct and based

[wicked delta]

i do not like danish people

[kind elm]

is racism against the rules

i hope not because i am!

[jolly flume]

hop in

[stray forge]

If you didn’t have dekmantel I would have reported you already

[kind elm]

no dont wanna

u haye me

[jolly flume]

I just wanted to hear toby rage

ngl

[kind elm]

im also like

busy

[true beacon]

Insert Sam’O Nella quote here

[jolly flume]

I spent $25 to hear this guy rage

[kind elm]

[kind elm]

what the fuck is a dekmantel

[stray forge]

Does toby talk in vc during raids

[stray forge]

I was talking to Toby, it’s a Dutch music festival

[valid solar]

yeah but I would recommend against bringing up the romani people

[kind elm]

💔

[stray forge]

[kind elm]

more like blair racismhofn

💔

[wicked delta]

BITCH WTF

[dapper zealot]

Is the Claire Obsecur sequel?

[wicked delta]

just cus im european doesnt mean i hate romani

[fierce matrix]

im not convinced

[kind elm]

no he just hates women 💔

[fierce matrix]

or is it that he only hates you

[jolly flume]

we're literally in the tutorial

and I'm already getting flamed

[kind elm]

LMAOOO

i love you tobi

never change

[fierce matrix]

roast this man NOW

[jolly flume]

"put the lettuce down"

"NOT THERE YOU DUMBASS"

[zealous meteor]

i did it to go "mentor btw" when i die to something stupid

and to help people

but mostly so i coudl go "mentor btw"

[stray forge]

Put the lettuce in the bag

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-idiot-sandwich-angry-mad-what-are-you-gif-4169547

[scarlet lintel]

my p2 prog party got through p1 in 1 pull

is this heaven

[quick verge]

uhhh pandaemonium 2 was 4 years ago LOL

[scarlet lintel]

m12s

my blind mine static is only on o12s

we're about to learn how to do hello world 2

[mossy eagle]

It's been downhill since P8SP1

[wicked delta]

just spent a solid minute throwing fish

[loud nymph]

p10s begs to differ

[scarlet lintel]

whta happened to the dps check bruh why was this possible

[jolly flume]

everything is possible if you crit

[quick verge]

uhhh

[inflammatory statement about mch]

[cooly reference]

[rain geode]

True

[jolly flume]

this overcooked shit is harder than idyllic dream

[remote gate]

the actual fight starts immediately after

[jagged aspen]

😮

[trim frost]

thank you drk lounge

[remote gate]

nice work

[scarlet lintel]

im almost done with idyllic

mechs arent hard

not sure how long ill be stuck at the dps check tho lol

will it be longer or shorter than p1? who knows

p1 was 20 hours, 5 of which was actual prog

[finite plank]

my brain hurts but i survived up to 3 minutes into the fight

[remote gate]

whats endgame lounge opinion on this

[wraith pond]

Is there magical way to skip m11s

[pine holly]

I've heard passport checking has gotten pretty bad this tier, I did have my own experience last tier where a guy blew up on me when I simply hadn't pressed the button to live log

I said I was gonna push the button real quick and he's free to check in like four seconds but he got all pissy calling me a liar

and this was just on M5

[inner apex]

I personally haven't had issues but I can definitely see why the creator would consider it

[jagged aspen]

its lower check than p1

if you get through clean you have it

[finite plank]

i'd still look at activity and charts either way

[inner apex]

Also see this #endgame-lounge message on why just looking at the prog point of the character card may not be the best idea

[jagged aspen]

if the plogon still finds a way to get prog %

[finite plank]

140 pulls to beat p1 with what's considered to be the easiest door boss on pf which seems reasonable

[scarlet lintel]

siick

[finite plank]

how long is p2?

i assume it'd be less than 8 minutes...

[scarlet lintel]

sounsd nice

[jagged aspen]

9:13

[finite plank]

i hope

fuck

9:!3

[jagged aspen]

well, like 2 minutes of it is standing doing nothing while idyllic is starting up xd

[inner apex]

My boyfriend did say he got kicked from an M10S clear party because he was on his alt and his alt's tomestone page said he hadn't cleared

[finite plank]

7 more minutes of fgucking puzzles -2

[jagged aspen]

They need to claim the alt

Then it will show main's progress

[scarlet lintel]

maybe clear by end of tomorrow if the enrage isnt hard then

if i hadnt wasted 15 fucking huors in p1 i would have ben albe to w1 probably

[boreal pumice]

winning

[terse zodiac]

W

[mossy eagle]

How is PF handling stampede?

[craggy marsh]

I think it's a good idea

[pale blade]

Yes

[terse zodiac]

people will just be lazy and prog liars would get worse, horrible idea

[scarlet lintel]

i mean

i check how many times someone has reached a prog point

if the hp ois just barely on it

idk why you wouldnt

[dull drum]

good idea

[terse zodiac]

you should, but its a lot harder to check if they dont show the % on each log?

[zealous meteor]

i mean i read that as hiding hp % from the card, as in what you get when you use !me new

not hiding hp% entirely

[dull drum]

pt sure it just means they remove the feature they added a while ago where hovering over the hp% tells you latest mech “progged”

[sleek moon]

!me new pulls from the same info as your profile card, so it means removing it from there

like if the change happens you'd have to go here #endgame-lounge message

to find how low someone has been

[finite plank]

i'd like to think this hyosho ranryu dcritting so hard ,it's my hardest hit in a 1m that isn't within a 2m that made the difference as we had 1 sch death

[sleek moon]

which IMO is a way better tool because it shows how often people get to a low %

[shadow pilot]

272k crit

[finite plank]

i can crit for 396k if dp'd in a 2m

[sleek moon]

most PFers prob just look at the first number they see on someone's profile and run with that

[terse zodiac]

definitely thats what most do

the way its set up now isnt perfect but it is a very quick easy way to see if someones lying and kick them immediately

[worn bluff]

is it always safe to gap close directly from a marker/tether spot in m11 arena split? or do you need to get a closer angle first

[queen raft]

#general-discussion is dead right? Or is it just messages not loading

[sleek moon]

there were no messages for an hour before your msg

[queen raft]

Oh ok

Just wanted to double check

[finite plank]

if you're for some reason, at the very corner, you'll fall off

[wicked delta]

OVERCOOKED IS IMPOSSIBLE CONTENT

[finite plank]

try to land just a lil bit nearer to the boss, in general, it should be safe to gapclose upon landing

but to be really safe, i move a bit more before gapclosing

it'd be really fucking stupid to ruin arena split by falling off the map

[jolly flume]

we had a prio system for making pizza bruh 💔

group 1 chop group 2 dishes and oven

dough top tomato middle cheese bottom

[wicked delta]

this shit was harder than DSR

[dapper zealot]

can't even prog pizza smh

[trim frost]

you guys are so 😭

[dapper zealot]

get liv to join :)

[jolly flume]

dude my idea got us 3 stars though

picto motifs

[remote gate]

question for the m12s players, does everything burns fit the fight better with savage mechanics going on and not normal shit

[jolly flume]

5 of the 7 minutes of the fight are not frenetically paced enough to make the song feel like it fits no

[wicked delta]

i think i fell down into a pit like 6 times

also i kept throwing food at chiyo's head

[jolly flume]

🥀

[dapper zealot]

that's optimal strat

[trim frost]

look at my line cook bruh it’s so over

[remote gate]

i watched m12sp2 and deadass I cannot tell what's even happening

[jolly flume]

we said that sentence like 8 times

look at my chef bruh he's fucking DEAD

[remote gate]

like are these proteans baits? is this a limit cut type shit? why are there clones? why are there symbols on the ground?

[trim frost]

athena is back

[remote gate]

so much crazy shit going on with a 5/10 boss design that somehow has aura

[trim frost]

put some respect on fleshiva bruh

[wicked delta]

we lost on the fucking tutorial

i screamed at chiyo bc of lettuce

😭

[jolly flume]

i'm telling you this game is harder than ff raids

the fried chicken stage 😭

[wicked delta]

😭

i was literally chilling

while chiyo

is fighting for his life

[dapper zealot]

pf level cooking

[jolly flume]

everything burns is a song written about my side of the kitchen

[wicked delta]

phys range vs support

[random needle]

For what it's worth, Metem can't keep up either

[finite plank]

the first part is done in a way to figure out what his clones are trying to do while dodging the cleaves at the last moment if you're in the way

and to identify what element the clone would do

it is really confusing as there is no way to tell what they do until they do it to you

then it's react to the actual mechanic coming up later

[jagged aspen]

it's two mechanics overlapped

and the arena is phasing between them back and forth

[scarlet lintel]

I’ve been seeing more memes than usual about it passport checking

Ngl I don’t get it

I’ve never had issues joining a party if I’m actually at the prog point

And even sometimes you can just ask if you’re a bit below

But if I have a party that’s <1% enrage and someone at 20% enrage joins, why would I let them stay. They can join the other enrage party

[jolly flume]

most of the people that complain about tomestone are the exact people you dodge using tomestone

that's all I have to say

[finite plank]

just like how i do not trust people who go out of their way to hide their logs

[queen raft]

Which logs?

Chat logs?

[finite plank]

fflogs

[queen raft]

Is that DPS logs?

[jolly flume]

logs from a tree

[finite plank]

the amount of floggings involved

[stray forge]

I am

ATROCIOUS

at dealing damage on m10s

[quick verge]

when did u start playing the game

[stray forge]

when did it come out

[mossy eagle]

arena split prog
look inside
die to the first raidwide prog

[stray forge]

tbh I dont even remember playing 89 days

[jolly flume]

🥀

[stray forge]

multiple characters

🥀

[jolly flume]

it's only there for splits

which unfortunately I have to do

[mossy eagle]

what does someone have a gun to your head saying "do splits or die"

[jolly flume]

yes

[mossy eagle]

damn sorry bro

good luck don't die

[stray forge]

idk why achievement log doesnt record dates you got achievement

[torn kindle]

Chat I think I gotta sneak into a ecliptic party at this point

I’m like 90% sure I’m competent enough to do arena split but my parties sure as hell aren’t

[stray forge]

endgame-lounge hide their logs arc

[torn kindle]

I think I’m just goated while people in my prog parties are a bit cringe

[worn bluff]

i only saw arena split a few times but joined split cleanup. it was basically arena split prog anyways

[torn kindle]

IT IS

[worn bluff]

at least we got to see it one in every 3 pulls

but people kept dying in meteorain randomly

[torn kindle]

The arena split prog party I joined earlier today wiped 3 times to trophy weapons (not ultimate) before we even saw arena split

And we only had one clean tether/marker set done, the 2nd set in that pull killed 4 people

[worn bluff]

people should just drop gcds if they don’t know how to greed consistently

just so we can see prog point

[stray forge]

i thought that was common sense

[true beacon]

Ahahahahaha

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-laugh-laughing-you-serious-jk-simmons-gif-6107729

[remote gate]

this low key sounds like fate calibration but instead of it happening immediately after the clones part it has a bunch of other stuff to throw you off

[jolly flume]

lmao

it's all downhill from here

[pale blade]

I have a Twink-182 kill under my belt now

[rapid whale]

congrats

[thin fox]

trying to think of how I would compare the floors difficulty-wise. I feel like it has to be

• 1st floor: 5 > 9 > 1
• 2nd floor: 6 > 10 > 2
• 3rd floor: 11 > 7 > 3
• 4th floor p1: 8p1 > 4p1 > 12p1
• 4th floor p2: 12p2 > 8p2 > 4p2

comparing nth floor to other nth floor since that feels fair to me

obviously 12p2 is harder than 1 but no one cares about comparing those fights

[trim frost]

i think that's a fair comparison

[pale blade]

Can't wait for M11S

hopefully I won't fuck it up

(I will)

[torn kindle]

Get ready for 4 minutes of constant boss relative mechanics at the start of every pull

[low hearth]

damn these mfs in m11s have like brain amoebas or something

holy shit

[trim frost]

yup

[pale blade]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-brain-slug-farnsworth-philip-j-fry-gif-1745437754689741824

[clear plume]

My teams 8:32 with a players first clear instead of our regular healer stands firm

[normal blade]

On M10S enrage.

Cleaning up to send these surfer bros to retirement.

[limpid edge]

im surprised hector chose relative N for the dance of domination, wouldnt it be better to do NW/SE? 2 spots vs 4

cuz i remember championing his true north choice for m3s bomb thingie

[stray forge]

lots of things hector does arent optimal

its why theres a disclaimer at the beginning of his vids lol

[limpid edge]

less about optimal

[clear plume]

This doesn’t work for ranged people?

[limpid edge]

just less things to think

[limpid edge]

could still work

[clear plume]

Ranged people always have to do it on the one wall that isn’t hit so relative to it is 10000000% the best for a guide

If you’re about to suggest a snake prio for ranged to do otherwise as your it can work I’m filing an hr report to moderators for harassment

[shy obsidian]

i'm scared for the Xtremes honestlyyyy

[limpid edge]

the b

xtwemes

[jolly flume]

we had 3 dds, we'll come back next week 🥀

[pale blade]

Twink-182

[shy obsidian]

please tell me it's not hell for melee DPS

[limpid edge]

is ptt soak order the standard in PF?

hector does ttt but im not sure i like it

[amber fable]

Not really

Dps check is lax anyway so just dont die

[pale blade]

I really enjoy how Honey B. Lovely and Vamp Fatale is a popular pairing but it's taken this long for any art to show up

I am slightly disappointed but at the same time elated that it did

For better or worse it’s been dominated by Twink-182 yaoi

[stray forge]

I wouldn't say hell, bosses just move around a lot

[shy obsidian]

I've seen more lewd art of the Xtremes and Tyrant COMBINED than Vamp Fatale

[pale blade]

all according to wokeness

[shy obsidian]

oh uh
what's the most wally mechanic for public parties?

[stray forge]

lots of fujos play ffxiv ofc

[shy obsidian]

don't forget fundashis too (meee)

[pale blade]

there’s a non-zero number of fudanshis, yeah

(maybe Hideo Kojima)

[shy obsidian]

I genuinely can't tell if the Korean artists are fujoshis or fundashis

the key lies in their player characters i suppose

[sleek moon]

tbh dont you have to go out of your way to vamp's apartment to read what she thinks of honey

[shy obsidian]

but seriously uh
what's the mehcanic that gives public parties the most trouble

[sleek moon]

while the brothers are all in your face

[pale blade]

Yaana also brings up their open-weight matches getting out of hand in optional dialogue so that may be it

[sleek moon]

snaking and the arena split

[pale blade]

Fated yaoi and toxic yuri

Which way, FFXIV players?

[shy obsidian]

jesus christ what is this alley-oop

[pale blade]

death

[shy obsidian]

yeah Watersnaking seems like the biggest wall because I just can't process what's going on in it lol

[sleek moon]

watch hector's guide

the water side has it a bit easier imo

they dont have to deal with puddles

[shy obsidian]

i bet

that and uh
the alley-oop definitely seems less cursed for em

[thin fox]

does anyone know the name of the plugin that shows time left on combo

[pale blade]

I think it's SimpleTweaks?

I want to say it is but I could be wrong

Yep, it's under SimpleTweaks

[thin fox]

oh it is

ty

[dull drum]

the TF plans have so many errors its fucking crazy man

[stray forge]

we got to bubble but i kept dying. in bubble.

[rain geode]

Thats... suprising Ive never died in bubble myself

[stray forge]

I am

a reaper

[rain geode]

DPS in lmao

[stray forge]

YUP

[thin fox]

says inner

people go outer

[rapid whale]

i didnt even know ppl in bubble took dmg im ngl

[rain geode]

Yeah thats why early groups where doing Tanks in iirc

[jolly flume]

it's a very negligible amount of damage

think people just saw oh tower with two people and said yeah that must be tank damage lol

natural assumption to make to an extent

but it definitely does like nothing to the people inside

[rain geode]

I never notice the damage and its easily gets healed just from the aoe heals youre gonna be doing anyway

[thin fox]

the bubble is so stupid

idk why anyone has to go in it at all

just make everyone do the mechanic

[stray forge]

bc

when someone inside the bubble dies

everyone dies

lol

[rain geode]

Eh thats one more person that might mess up the mechanic... then again it might be one more person who does it right

[rain geode]

wait really?

[stray forge]

yes

bubble explodes

[manic nimbus]

I just did this

[thin fox]

my point is that the entire 2 person in bubble part should never have been part of the mechanic

[manic nimbus]

and a lot happening at once on the screen

[thin fox]

just make 8 people do the tethers

its boring to just say "oh 2 people dont have to play the game"

why not give those 2 people autorotation while youre at it

[rain geode]

Why would you give anyone autorotation?

[stray forge]

idk what you want from me I don't make this game

seems to me like there would be too little to do if everyone was outside of the bubble though

[thin fox]

Im being sarcastic

Im saying the mechanic is poorly designed

[rain geode]

My main guess is they didnt want to make it eight tethers

[shy obsidian]

no seriously
how does Reverse Alley-Oop work for the opposite side for that part

[rain geode]

I believe its the melees dodge center

[stray forge]

done pf so much that you learned what other roles do

[rain geode]

being able to explain a mechanic gives like 1% better odds of being able to clear and Ill take every advantage I can get

[thin fox]

if you're a ranged (i.e. the prange/caster or a healer) you just do it the way you would expect to

stay if reverse, move if not

for melee/tank you basically wanna go directly middle if its reverse

hector video shows the dodge

[dull drum]

if you're melee tank make sure the baiters are close to each other

that interlapping aoe is your safe spot for reverse as melees

no interlap = gg go next back to looper

[rain geode]

Honestly the markers should probably be used for the spots melee tank need to stand

since they arent really doing anything anyway

[worn bluff]

you can use his hitbox as a reference

[dull drum]

^

target ring exists for a reason

xd

[worn bluff]

stand around the width of his hitbox, or a little closer

and it's fine

[rain geode]

Just the thought PF seems to be messing it up constantly

[worn bluff]

here you go

[pale blade]

https://bsky.app/profile/pigeonpii.bsky.social/post/3mcfki6hlas22

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Bluesky · Jan 14, 2026, 5:05 PM

[stray forge]

So called free thinkers when hector releases a guide

[rain geode]

I mean Im on Heal I dont need it I just need PF to be able to do it lol

[worn bluff]

i mean the raid plan also shows it that way

people need to just read

[thin fox]

if pf can't align to hitbox they won't be able to align to marker either

[stray forge]

I think I see your issue

[worn bluff]

these are the people who are like "i don't know where to stand" and don't ask questions

[rain geode]

I mean alligning with an edge is much easier then with a circle

[jolly flume]

with appropriate heal planning you can force people to survive getting hit by the second one anyway

if they manage to get doubled on the second one good job I can't fix that

[low hearth]

hard mech

[stray forge]

Idk both of 9 and 10 have seemed easy mode so far mech wise

[rain geode]

I mean I have yet to find any melees who can do it consistently

[stray forge]

I’m kind of just guessing 11 is where things get really tight

[stray forge]

Rip

I am sure it will be a lot of fun if I end up having to pf 10 :^)

[rain geode]

you should hope it doesnt come to that

[manic nimbus]

hw m4 music is sick

[worn bluff]

i guess people visualize things differently but i look at it like horizontal lines going across his N and S edge

[rain geode]

Yeah when I need to align thats how I do it

But other people seem to struggle with it and Im always trying to think of ways to idiot proof something

[worn bluff]

if they can't understand that diagram

idk i'm out of ideas

[rain geode]

Well thats why I was thinking about markers

Its not like the markers really do anything in this fight anyways

[thin fox]

dont even know what corner that drg thinks theyre standing on

bro came up with a whole new spot

no outer no inenr no middle

just

who the fuck knows

[rain geode]

PF finds a way

[scarlet lintel]

:3

got the w2 clear

[stray forge]

I swear some of the people I see in limsa are there from morning until night

[scarlet lintel]

green parse cause i forgot to pot and we neededa healer lb

🥀

[rain geode]

me as fuck

[stray forge]

i was talking about panini person

tbh I didn't even know u were on my server until 2 days ago

💀

so u cant possibly be in limsa that much

[rain geode]

I mean Im in limsa like at least 5-6 hours a day

it was less for a bit but now that Im coming to terms with the fact Im probably not clearing M10S what else am I supposed to do but stand in limsa

[scarlet lintel]

does it mean anything that i was among the first 300 warriors to clear this fight

[stray forge]

how many reapers have cleared it :^)

[rain geode]

More then SMN and I think MCH

[stray forge]

61

[rain geode]

MCH passes it actually

[stray forge]

27 and 75

[rain geode]

rather then shouting number Im just gonna post this

[stray forge]

Machinist more popular........................

[rain geode]

MCH hate is overstated

[scarlet lintel]

p1 was 19.5 hours and p2 was 7.5

im so mad bro

[trim frost]

potency increases for mch this tier have been decently substantial

[scarlet lintel]

w1 clear would have been it had i just gotten good dpses

ah wel

[stray forge]

im surprised there are more rdm than picto

[rain geode]

RDM has a rez

[alpine plover]

what is this

the tier in general?

[rain geode]

M12SP2

so basically yes

[alpine plover]

i feel like this will be the general way week 1 will go

with those percentages or close to them

[rain geode]

This is current so Week 2 clears so far

[thin fox]

idk what to do about m11

[rain geode]

idk what to do about m10

[manic nimbus]

Idk what these are in reference to

[rapid whale]

congrats!

[rapid whale]

wdym

[alpine plover]

congratz!

[rain geode]

I think its pretty self explanatory

[rapid whale]

my bad for being dense

[scarlet lintel]

I didn’t know Warrior was so unpopular

[rain geode]

I am unsure what to do to clear m10

well Im not unsure of what to do

Im unsure of how to get others to do it

[rain geode]

It's sadly (or happily dpeneding on how much you like it) the worst tank

[visual sable]

really? wasn't WAR the old meta of the "I need no healer can't die tank"?

maybe my notes are old

[alpine plover]

Yea, in dungeons

[visual sable]

oh ok ok

[rain geode]

Its unkillable in the content that matters the least in

Mit is a lot more important then healing

[trim frost]

war also has the shittiest aoe among all tanks

[manic nimbus]

What is this m8 and m9 stuff are those like dungeons or something

[visual sable]

raids

[scarlet lintel]

I don’t feel very tanky as a warrior but I love it a lot so it’s ok

[dapper zealot]

healing ain't all that useful of the tb is gonna hit you for more than your max hp

[scarlet lintel]

I just like almost dying and then healing myself

[manic nimbus]

How I get em

[scarlet lintel]

It makes me feel alive

I also find other the tanks too hard

[rain geode]

Its not as dire as people make it out to be but WAR could use like 1 more mit

[visual sable]

play the story and do the quests

[thin fox]

every tank should have less mit

[rain geode]

maybe turn equal into a worthwhile button

[alpine plover]

Gnb and drk are kind of always the most damagey, and pld is super good for prog

[scarlet lintel]

Was super annoyed when I found out that 40% + BW isn’t enough for double sobat

[manic nimbus]

Does the m stand for something? I finished msq yesterday and just got through base AAC stuff today

All the divisions

[visual sable]

oh then you have them lol

[rapid whale]

they should let war consume their buff for another mit

[dapper zealot]

consume the healer for mit

[rapid whale]

truge

[manic nimbus]

Oh is it the aac stuff

[thin fox]

tbh you could probably delete rampart from all tanks and be good

[scarlet lintel]

Thrill should have a mit or a shorter cd

[scarlet lintel]

Warrior definitely would not be

[stray forge]

Reaper should be invincible during enshroud

:)

[manic nimbus]

I agree

[thin fox]

healers should have to help mit the tanks for busters

[manic nimbus]

As a reaper player

:)

[rapid whale]

summoners should be allowed to tank

[scarlet lintel]

Give scholar a single target mit ogcd other than contraction first

[rain geode]

I think Thrill is fine, If we move a WAR button into mit I think equalibrium is the better choice

[scarlet lintel]

I like equilibrium

I don’t feel like thrill does much it’s just like worse rampart

[visual sable]

yes, M1-4 is Lighttier, M5-8 is Cruiser, M9-12 is Heavy tier. S after is (M1S) is the [Savage]

[scarlet lintel]

Same mit, both buff healing, but thrill is half the duration. Only bonus is the bigger shake it off but that is rarely ever relevant

[manic nimbus]

Oh instead of saying division they say m1-m12

[rain geode]

I feel like Thrill does more then Equilibrium at least Thrill is basically a 20% shield on demand

[manic nimbus]

Thanks xd

I feel dumb

[amber fable]

Gnb gets thrill in 40%

[scarlet lintel]

Idk equilibrium is shorter cd and saves me from autos and holgmang. Thrill is like ehhh idk

I try use thrill for autos and it just feels 🥀

I use it after holmgang but it also feels kinda pointless

So otherwise I just need it so that i don’t die to a tank buster

[amber fable]

Thrill is basically bulwark of war

[thin fox]

gcd heal brother

[scarlet lintel]

Making it worse than every other 90 that other tanks have because it’s so short

[amber fable]

Except its weakest 90s cd

[scarlet lintel]

Nah

[stray forge]

all damage that reaper deals during enshroud should fill gauge :)

ok ill stop

[scarlet lintel]

Tanks are not my problem if im scholar

[manic nimbus]

Agree

lol

[scarlet lintel]

Neither is spot healing for that matter

Excog is barely useful sometimes and contraction is fine. Lustrate is practically pointless

[rain geode]

If I have to spot heal I have to spot heal

[low hearth]

Is The Weapon's Refrain (Ultimate) clearable in the good lord's year 2026

[dull drum]

NO WAY BRO

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[rain geode]

uh-huh

[low hearth]

dang mfs deleted the south park 67 gif

holy shit

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-67-67-south-park-67-south-park-6-7-gif-13284396363591354590

[thin fox]

DONT

JOIN

CLEAR

PARTIES

IF YOU CANT DO FOUR/TWOWAY

[alpine plover]

mb...

[dapper zealot]

420 blaze it?

tithuuuus

[alpine plover]

i am at arena split

[thin fox]

lliterally do not know what i'm supposed to do

[alpine plover]

maybe i clear today tho

[thin fox]

good one

[worn bluff]

bro why can no one do weapons

[alpine plover]

actually maybe not today cuz one of our melees is missing 1 hour

[worn bluff]

arena split cleanup party and 3/4 pulls someone dies to weapons

don’t MT M11 if you can’t do scythe

[craggy marsh]

Saw the me that I wanna be

[scarlet lintel]

As MT I don’t even have to sprint for sword into scythe CW anymore

It’s not rly that bad unless I’m not paying attention

I only sprint for scythe if I want uptime

[low hearth]

Paladin cover when some noob stands in feather rain in uwu

https://klipy.com/gifs/los-angeles-lakers-lebron-james-5

[thin fox]

if you cant move out of feather rain u deserve the death

[low hearth]

somebody baited eruptions wrong in suppression so we wiped

[worn bluff]

i have noticed that over time i've had to use sprint much less

[low hearth]

🥀

[alpine plover]

me hearing my cotank saying "i'm not gonna make it" and having scythe next

[worn bluff]

also i think the 6 weapons are closer together too right?

since they're on cardinals

[scarlet lintel]

Its fhe same

Inter cards aren’t further apart than cards are I think? Unless I’m misunderstanding

[worn bluff]

i think the sets of 3 aren't on stricly intercard vs card

i want to say they're a bit further but not sure

but then they're slower

[scarlet lintel]

It’s closer for MT when it’s CCW which only happens in ultimate weapons

[low hearth]

placing a eruption puddle on the tanks and mistral songs

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-fortnite-ishowspeed-cheeks-ishowspeed-blow-gif-8384090200881199846

bed angle

[thin fox]

this game is not real

this game is not real

i ju8st watched someone

after arena split

walk

NORTH

and place their

LEYLINES

BROTHER

WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING DOING

[loud swift]

peak black mage gameplay

[thin fox]

they have said nothing

about this

dw we wiped to a bard that cant walk out of an aoe

too hard

prange has too many casts

cant walk out of an aoe

[low hearth]

[dapper zealot]

mb it's hard to walk and press buttons

[pale blade]

sorry

[rain geode]

sorry

[pale blade]

leylins

[thin fox]

I love how no one who joins clear parties can do the final mechanic

I love having my time wasted in Final Fantasy 14

ok I'm just setting up a 0 chest duty complete tmrw and hoping people join

I hope none of these people ever clear M11S

[rain geode]

Not the worse Idea maybe Ill steal it

[granite stag]

You scare off the smelly loot goblins.

[stray forge]

ill place my leylines wherever I want, okay?

[rain geode]

Who cares about loot goblins Trying to avoid players that just suck

Or at least the ones who suck more then me

[granite stag]

A lot of players are more worried about getting loot than getting good at playing the game so that filters them out.

[stray forge]

I care about loot until

monday

okay?

[thin fox]

I do not care about loot I just want a clear

[rain geode]

except you dont even really need the loot for anything in this game loot goblin players certainly exist but I dont see them to often in this game

Loots easier to get with a clear anyway since you can join reclear parties next week

[stray forge]

The reward gives me dopamine okay

a girl can dream okay surely not every group with 2 chest can be complete ass

[rain geode]

I mean you might have a decent SCH if Im there, otherwise no they can.

[worn bluff]

i'm not tilted or burnt out just yet but i could see myself wasting a lot of time in PF trying to clear M11S

dunno if i should just call it quits early before i get to that point lol

[rain geode]

I am most certainly tilted

[west zephyr]

People ain't real indeed

[west zephyr]

Play whenever you really and actually feel like it, simple as

[stray forge]

I kind of wish my static met twice for 3 hours instead of saving another 2 hour meetup for sunday

[west zephyr]

Don't let your dreams be dreams, once someone said, in this case, at least express it, worth trying

[shy obsidian]

so uhh do the light parties focus on the same bro the entire time or do they ocassionally swap

[stray forge]

ehhh I'll be patient

I feel like it wont matter in the end

either I stop running this content sooner or later

[rain geode]

They balance there hp a lot, so hit whatever one is convenient and cleave when you can.

[west zephyr]

Don't say that, you never know

[stray forge]

just impatient now naturally because I want to keep progging

[west zephyr]

Go PF, just not that much out of your way

[rain geode]

dont go to PF

whatever you do

[stray forge]

https://tenor.com/view/emperors-new-groove-lead-you-down-the-path-that-rocks-lead-guide-path-gif-4781330

alright buddy

relax

[west zephyr]

They'll never know

[rain geode]

I mean tbf its not unheard of to join prog parties but not go for a clear to be more ready for when your static meets

[low hearth]

Cleave bro

[jolly flume]

[rain geode]

Meow

[shy obsidian]

watch me aim Shoha away from the other bro every time without fail

[rain geode]

Is that from a public server I kinda need it

[stray forge]

[tardy marten]

Is anyone her who wants to run Asphodelos 4th on savage? Or is here a server where I can looking for players?🙈

[loud nymph]

honestly just use pf

[worn bluff]

yeah it's just moreso should i set "clear this tier" as a goal or not

[shy obsidian]

oh btw how do you guys find red mage rn

[worn bluff]

i skipped last tier and ngl it felt kind of nice

all the time i saved to do other stuff

[west zephyr]

Yeah as long as you don't clear should be fine

[worn bluff]

but i do like these fights

[west zephyr]

In a really good state rn

[shy obsidian]

so wait uh
how much range does the melee stuffs have now

[west zephyr]

I'm seeing it prefered over picto and all

[visual sable]

i love my 10 meters rapier after Manafication

[west zephyr]

30y i think?

[loud nymph]

25y during manafication

[rain geode]

and if you join M10S in PF you will never have to worry about clearing anyway

[shy obsidian]

so it's basically the range of a normal spell

[loud nymph]

yea basically

[jolly flume]

https://discord.gg/naurffxiv

[visual sable]

lol yea i was looking for this

so silly lol

[rain geode]

Thank you meowy much

[shy obsidian]

i won't deny I am curious about red mage, but like
the mana management is weird and the manafication timing is weird and fitting as much stuff as possible into Embolden is weird

[worn bluff]

ok i've seen ecliptic now but no one was doing damage so my tomestone says 35%

surely that's enough to join ecliptic party right

[rain geode]

As I 2 week PF veteran I am filled with anger and rage.

[worn bluff]

[shy obsidian]

well to be FAIIIIIIRRRRRR we're still in the early weeks

people are most likely using it for uh
Verraise

[west zephyr]

No dmg is also being really nice

And it has the cleave on m10

[jolly flume]

verraise is dead in pf rn ngl

if people die have fun enraging

[tardy marten]

Can I looking for a group too? Im on the europe server. I joined

[jolly flume]

because everyone who can do any semblance of damage is already on 12

[shy obsidian]

hmmm maybe I can use this as my red mage outfit

[jolly flume]

specifically NA server you're not going to have any luck finding EU parties there

can hang around to chat or get advice but

[tardy marten]

For raids too? Do i need to be on the same server to run raids?

[loud nymph]

You need to be in the same region.

[alpine plover]

Europe has other servers

depends on content

[shy obsidian]

so uh
does anyone even use the strategy board seriously

[dapper zealot]

Godamn it's only been 2 weeks? It feels like months

[worn bluff]

we prob would have gotten the boss to the 20s by ecliptic if half the party didn't die to the arena toss lol

no one was up for 2s

[rain geode]

I mean for savage... I guess technically Ive been PFing for a few months now

but like EX are so easy anyone has the ability to do it so does it really count?

[dapper zealot]

Nah as in the tier release

[jolly flume]

it's been like five days since we cleared and I already forgot half of what I'm supposed to do with my buttons

[worn bluff]

i already forgot what to do for m10

[dapper zealot]

You chop the lettuce and take it mid

[worn bluff]

other than press thing early

[dull drum]

didnt you do reclears today

[dull drum]

do yiu want the truth

ecliptic parties are just arena split parties

[worn bluff]

surely that means no weapons prog

[low hearth]

👉

Mfs be dying to the easy weapons bro 😭

That fight might be too hard

[shy obsidian]

what's it like being a tank in these fights btw

[jolly flume]

https://medal.tv/games/overcooked-2/clips/lV94H5JKI3BEu9f1d

[jolly flume]

we did 9 and 10

[shy obsidian]

yall do overcooked?

[dapper zealot]

assuming you're blue?

[jolly flume]

yeah 🥀

[dapper zealot]

smh throwing

[jolly flume]

we actually kinda locked in towards the end

gonna play more later today

[worn bluff]

mid pull

[low hearth]

easy

[amber fable]

Just say brb 5 min

[shadow pilot]

poo

[amber fable]

Emergency

[low hearth]

happs

[dapper zealot]

poo[

[rain geode]

dw its pretty easy

[shy obsidian]

can public parties pull it off tho

[trim frost]

only if ur confident

[rain geode]

[worn bluff]

i mean rotation adjustments

i know i did something for cleave but don’t remember what it was anymore

[loud nymph]

look in the mirror and tell me what you see

[shy obsidian]

i don't think much changes since Red Hot is available 99% of the itme?

so not much downtime, I think?

[worn bluff]

i’m right where i wanna be

[dull drum]

m10? yeah

[shy obsidian]

i asked some peeps in the samurai lounge and apparently one of em only had to use enpi a whopping three times or something

[dull drum]

i did it

[rain geode]

Myself, sad.

[worn bluff]

i remember if you do some 60s cooldowns early in opener you get more cleave when they’re together

but i don’t remember the rest

[shy obsidian]

oooooh does this apply to samurai?

[trim frost]

probably

does your 60s cleave

[worn bluff]

i think shoha cleaves now

since they combined the AoE into it or something

[rain geode]

Public parties could probably do M10S but the talent has dried up a bit by now

[worn bluff]

idk sam balance prob tells you what to do

[shy obsidian]

it could, but I don't think I should use THAT version...

[worn bluff]

i don’t come up with anything myself

[shy obsidian]

Senei is better than Guren, right?

[low hearth]

🤔

[shy obsidian]

wait

it's literally just the same shit if Guren hits both of em

I may be stoopid

[loud nymph]

for m10 it would be the same assuming guren hit both, yes

maffs

[trim frost]

yeah lmao

[shy obsidian]

could've sworn it had damage falloff but whatever

[thin fox]

just hit whichever is more convenient to hit and cleave when its better/possible

[low hearth]

Yea it’s neutral

[thin fox]

on SAM you just want to make sure you have double dot and where you can use ogi namikuri on 2 target

it is better to use ogi on 2 target outside of buffs than 1 target inside buffs [assuming that doing so does not result in the loss of an ogi over the course of the fight]

[low hearth]

cleave > buffs

I think

[thin fox]

yes

always true

cleave > buffs as long as you're maintaining full uses

[shy obsidian]

oh my god I have to take THAT into consideration

[trim frost]

yeah

[thin fox]

you dont have to because its only m10 but if youre trying to be 'optimal' thats what you do

[trim frost]

you probably should

unless u want to 0.1% enrage

:)

[thin fox]

the people who are 0.1 enraging are people who are dying/getting dds/cant do rotation at all

not the people who arent doing 2 target opti

[trim frost]

yea i joke

but still it's good to learn opti where you can

[shy obsidian]

MEEEEEE

[trim frost]

might help make up for deaths/dds/etc

[shy obsidian]

I'm a guy who dies to buzzsaws and Sanguine Scratch for... some reason

[trim frost]

erm

chat

wheres tengentsu

[rain geode]

TBF if you pfing you gonna get those partys that have Deaths/DDs/arejustbad

[trim frost]

well yeah

[low hearth]

Oh yea

[trim frost]

but even for like reclears u should probably try to help opti

nobody in a reclear party wants to be there any longer than they need to

yk

[shy obsidian]

I'm pretty sure I'm responsible for 75% of my wipes

[trim frost]

oh

🥀

[rain geode]

so you should try to play as optimal as possible

Im solely responsible for around 5-10% of my wipes

[amber fable]

I caused wipe at 1%

Which is worst

[low hearth]

The proc lasts for 30 seconds I think you just hold it until you can cleave

[amber fable]

[shy obsidian]

god that sounds so depressing

[rain geode]

rough