endgame-lounge

[amber fable]

Such is pf life

[low hearth]

nobody is baiting the shit correctly bruh

[amber fable]

Andies cant do uptime cant do meld

[alpine plover]

mb...

[amber fable]

Cant do mech

[low hearth]

and when u do normal strats it makes the safe spot cooked bruh

fat ass puddle in the middle gg

[jolly flume]

hey now

[alpine plover]

to be fair i can't put the tankbuster fire puddle anywhere else

[jolly flume]

save some fun for me

[alpine plover]

mb

[low hearth]

Ugh, what a drag!

[jolly flume]

ok good night (morning?)

[valid solar]

let's do this together bro

[alpine plover]

eep well

[light glacier]

is the race over ?

[lyric summit]

yeah it died like yesterday

[light glacier]

who got it ? lucrezia ?

[dapper zealot]

yep

[low hearth]

If there ain't a wave to ride, just make one yourself! 🏄🏿‍♂️

[rapid whale]

who got the ddos world first

[low hearth]

yo the disesteem and shadowbringer cleave goes crazy in m10s

[jagged aspen]

🔥🔥 NEVER 🚫 HAD A MIT 🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️
NEVER 🚫 LET THE SHIELDS DOWN 📉📉
CALM THEM NERVES 💦
GOT THE WHOLE HP BAR 👀
MITTING 👀
READY SET 🚦🚦MIT 🚦🚦
AND THERE AINT NO 🛑 SHIELD 🛑ONLY ONE 1️⃣ OPTION ☝️WIPE IT UP❗❗🔥🔥

[dapper zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-shoot-kill-you-love-selfie-gif-12788157

[random needle]

EVERYTHING WIPES
-# CLEAN IT UP, LET'S GO, CLEAN IT UP, LET'S GO
EVERYTHING WIPES
-# CLEAN IT UP, LET'S GO, CLEAN IT UP, LET'S GO
I'M ON FIRE, PARSING LOWER THAN ANYONE ALIVE
I'M WAY TOO SHIT TO TOUCH, SO JUST REMEMBER IF YOU TRY
EVERYTHING WIPES!!!

[pale blade]

me on the toilet

[loud nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/andy-dwyer-chris-pratt-comedy-funny-parks-and-recreation-gif-4114701

[random needle]

https://tenor.com/view/bidet-toilet-water-spray-gif-16482663

[sleek moon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gagging-gag-cats-barf-gif-21208804

[mossy eagle]

Bidet my beloved

[daring pine]

@random needle

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[random needle]

Woaw

[sleek moon]

https://raidplan.io/plan/hvbysrfwvrc55ahz

braindead this, braindead that

gimme funny names again

[pale blade]

"Braindead" and it requires more thinking than actually needed to execute

[true beacon]

Least you had to think for most of Anabaseios

[zealous meteor]

braindead strat
look inside
more complicated than doing the mechanic normally

many such cases

[limpid edge]

I think I need to go over mit

[true beacon]

Sam did you ever see Illya Light Rampant

[random needle]

Has Sam done e8s?

[true beacon]

No but I mean retroactively

[mossy eagle]

DT babies would absolutely get bodied by high concept

[random needle]

Is there even a raidplan out for m12 yet? I didn't see most of the race for p2 because I was asleep, but that looked rough to figure out

[mossy eagle]

I haven't seen one

Those usually don't crop up until later in the week at the PF wave makes it to the final floor

[random needle]

Fair

Haven't done TEA, but I saw comparisons made to Fate Calibration?

[mossy eagle]

I haven't watched phase 2 but that's exciting

[true beacon]

It looks something like a mix between concepts and spells in waiting from E12

[worn bluff]

on the flip side, EW babies are probably the ones complaining most about melee downtime right now

[pale blade]

lmao

I actually kinda like it

Shakeups are kinda nice

[woven tundra]

we need to take them back to eden

"can i OT" yeah OT this raiden lil bro

🐦

[pale blade]

the bird of negative uptime...

[woven tundra]

but when u actually got the uptime

felt good

[torn kindle]

calls itself braindead
look inside
it’s just using a waymark as a reference point for where to stand

Actual braindead is fixed Aetherletting, not this

[random needle]

I saw a strat for fixed Hell In A Cell

I'm not going to share it because I think it'd be terminal cancer in PF, but it's funny

[amber fable]

Tf is pretty fixed too...tower dont have a lot of variation

[mossy eagle]

Swap OT and R2, have the tanks gigamit/invuln, and you could probably just have everyone camp at a clock spot

[sleek moon]

i remembered ilya exists yesterday and checked his channel

god damn

guy really loved making those 1hr long guide videos

[limpid edge]

I did it unsync, does that count?

[sleek moon]

p8sp2 was fun but i cant imagine doing it blind lol

[limpid edge]

I however did like not reading debuffs in DT

There are very few DT fights where you had to look

But maybe it spoiled me

Cuz now I don't want to read debuffs

And glancing at p2 there's quite a bit of it

Looked almost like a puzzle fight

[sleek moon]

when i was jumping between streams this race I saw one JP group linking their debuffs in chat

[vestal hollow]

[limpid edge]

I only played m9s for an hour in pf. Couldn't get past screech 2

[valid solar]

screech 2 is adds yeah ?

[limpid edge]

Mit feels the hard part

I might have to save mit for that part

Also I don't think my cotank used rep once

I'm gonna be stuck on m9s for a while unless I prog lie... I'm already late

[pine holly]

That fight hits decently hard, especially if someone makes a mistake

[mossy eagle]

Yeah you really can't overlap too much mit (unless you have a scholar lmao)

[amber fable]

Whew m9 done

[mossy eagle]

Scholar vs sage is really felt in that fight

[pine holly]

If you're still stuck on Saturday I can come off tank

[limpid edge]

The shield healer needs to shield a butt load

[amber fable]

Any m10 vid guides?

[mossy eagle]

Spreadlo every minute goes super hard

[limpid edge]

I was thinking of trying sch on my alt

[pine holly]

M10 is pretty damn fun, I honestly didnt like M6 cause the only real mechanic didnt start until 4 minutes in

[amber fable]

M6 had basic mechs really

Only adds were different

[worn bluff]

tank basically has like nothing to do in that fight other than mit and press buttons why don't they just go DPS

[amber fable]

Adds added the difficulty

[pine holly]

I got past adds at around pull 100 or so. And felt very good on it, however pf walled me for another 100 pulls. So many lava memes

[limpid edge]

Adds were very unique for an ff14 fight

[valid solar]

is m6s adds the most memorable savage mech of this raid series

[worn bluff]

i'm pretty sure if you just close your eyes and press rep on cd in M9S you'll catch something half the time

[valid solar]

I feel like they are

[limpid edge]

Unique enough that it complicated for your average ff14 raider tenfold

[amber fable]

35 pulls for m9...tomestone didnt log like 20 more I probably did

[mossy eagle]

The yan is certainly the most memorable

[limpid edge]

YAN

[vestal hollow]

idyllic dream might be up there once pf gets to see it lol

[amber fable]

M6s week 1 was an experience

Clearing if felt good

[pine holly]

I think m9 took around 40 pulls. We got to enrage at 20, then we sped progged the guy who missed the first night and we were done pretty quickly.

[amber fable]

I felt better than clearing m4

[pine holly]

Doing that in pf was one of the most miserable experiences I've had in this game

[pale blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/847207078506004481/1388701966456197160/MEOW2.gif

[pine holly]

I was losing it during adds

[amber fable]

176 pulls

For m6

Crazy shit it was

[vestal hollow]

every time i see you i remember our crashout over fru naur strats

[pine holly]

Part of that was out of spite cause they pushed that update when I was in between pf groups

Like I did one, old strat was up

Went to the next one, it was updated

So half the party was just doing different shit

[amber fable]

Week 1 ult....

Maybe I will try it this tier

[worn bluff]

we had that happen in the middle of a pull ye

people started gaslighting each other unintentionally

[pine holly]

That happened last night in m10

[amber fable]

Collective delulu

[pine holly]

I think the slide for which role takes the Blitzball ring got changed from tanks to healers

[wicked delta]

Almost a whole fucking hour oh nah

[worn bluff]

oh yeah that changed

[vestal hollow]

the last mech of the fight is 3 mins long

and you have to remember like 4 different things

[worn bluff]

and then also there's bettersnaking which people shared and someone said "it's the same as toxic"

and i had to be like wait no hold up

[wicked delta]

WALLAHI IM FINISHED

[amber fable]

Cactbot is your friend

[pine holly]

"Same strats"
looks at strats
"Not the same"

[visual geyser]

im so bad at the sanguine dodge

embarassing

[amber fable]

Lock in bro

[vestal hollow]

the snapshot is cruel

[amber fable]

Only hard part is first one

Due to tether

2 is easy

Left right left right

[visual geyser]

yea the first one

like i get hit once and its fucking over

[pale blade]

yarp

[amber fable]

Peoole will skip it eventually

I feel

[pine holly]

For the first one you have more slack than you think on the tether. It goes red when its about to get too far.

[limpid edge]

35 slide raidplan for one mech in p2

[visual geyser]

noice

got the necklace too

ezy

alright square ill give it up thats a cool necklace

[amber fable]

I got most crap rolls on it

[lean ginkgo]

what the fuck is nomnom snaking

[worn bluff]

same as bettersnaking i think

https://raidplan.io/plan/Cmo_RpCDbsUSMV5c

[valid solar]

yueah nomnom is just the person who thought of it

[lean ginkgo]

i see, thanks

[worn bluff]

i'm not a huge fan of the 2/2 spread on water there

people making it too wide and clipping fire people

i mean probably just things for people to clean up but i had a party doing better snakes and they sent their reverse straight into the fire team a few times

i think the raidplan should prob tell fire to walk slightly towards water boss. safer that way

[visual geyser]

GOAT POSTED

https://youtu.be/xH_jv4a983E?si=hqEJX5Ta9EIM4dnm

DANCER PLAYABLE?

[boreal pumice]

[random needle]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-hornet-hollow-knight-gif-5503458344524908864

[zealous meteor]

[scarlet lintel]

idk why m11s arena split is breaking my brain

[jolly flume]

kind of hard mechanic

a little

[worn bluff]

people keep joking about silksong being out i'm tired of it

[dull drum]

how come the streets are calling m11s a chatgpt fight

[boreal pumice]

because they are getting their ass kicked and need to bitch about their own skill issue

[olive hearth]

yoshipee

is there is a diagram on what better snakes is

[dull drum]

well no they’re saying the fight is relatively boring

mechanically anyway

[jolly flume]

I mean it's much more of a standard xiv fight than 10

but I don't think it's boring

[mossy eagle]

Just look at a raidplan for M12SP2

Looks like puzzle boss is back on the menu

[boreal pumice]

did you sleep chiyo

[quick verge]

m12-2 is state mandated temporal stasis-slop?

[worn bluff]

#endgame-lounge message

[quick verge]

lets fucking go

[olive hearth]

tyyy

[jolly flume]

5 hours yeah

[dull drum]

sleep on THIS

[valid solar]

welcome back jet set radio

died 2002 born 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZIej-ZraE

[mortal flower]

Wym bro.

Hyperfunk is right there

God you're so uncultured

[wintry elbow]

Hector is telling me where to stand, oh yah! Hot legged Vamp is going down!

[quick verge]

type shit

[proper cave]

Shit

[limpid edge]

Is anyone doing an uptime vamp in pf?

[rain geode]

I don't even know what uptime vamp is

[limpid edge]

Mah uptime!!!!!

[wicked delta]

tf is that

[limpid edge]

Currently I'm just playing safe sitting outside

Iunno hector has one

[dull drum]

idk about an uptime vampire strat but theres the one where tanks immediately jump in with invuln frame 1 and detonate together so then melees dont have to sink as much uptime or risk getting clipped as much

since other players aoes dont give you dd

[limpid edge]

There's no invuls on that fight otherwise right

[dull drum]

yeah

[limpid edge]

Any tomahawks in the chat?

Tanks really popular in m9s, very few open slots

[mossy eagle]

Love slapping cocks with my cotank

[limpid edge]

Healers as usual open everywhere

Esp shield healer

I should really just main shield healer for PF convenience

Is there a particularly harder tank fight this tier? Like m6s

[mossy eagle]

M10S looks like it has some positioning but nothing as crazy as M6S

Also I love how no lessons were learned from M6S adds in terms of add management

Given how many DPS just hit the fucking boss during ss2

[dull drum]

wonder how they’ll handle nails in funny number calcs

cause they dont really grow forever at a certain point they just go poof iirc

[jolly flume]

open youko m12s explainer

"it's just like pantokrator"

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[dull drum]

i like panto tho

[amber fable]

M10 is fun as tank

Moving around and positioning

[finite plank]

maintaining uptime in 10s is a pain without resorting to throwing daggers excessively...

some of it is unavoidable due to red hot jumping so far out of range

[amber fable]

Yeah

I had to throw lobs and hard cast hs

I like that melee uptime isnt free

Make single melee comps better

[finite plank]

would've cleared if enrage was maybe 3 seconds longer

[amber fable]

Crit more

[finite plank]

with 2 deaths

and 8+ dds

[amber fable]

Got to arena split...

Surely clear soon

:Clueless

[worn bluff]

i know i can stand still and cast HS but i like sprinting around like a crazy person in the beginning limit cut

[amber fable]

I aint doing allat

[worn bluff]

it just feels goofy and it matches the vibe of the fight

[odd beacon]

joins 10 clear pt
this reaper runs water tether straight down mid, like not even graze, straight through mid
asked why did you do that
"? what does it do"

r u fr

[amber fable]

Rpr players

[worn bluff]

one of the rare slides in raidplan where they even explained how the mechanic works too

[amber fable]

Yukizuri has m10 guide

Its mostly same as tf

But it explains things

[worn bluff]

there are some small things that would be good to include in the raidplan, bc it helps people salvage pulls when they get scuffed

like how the safe cone gets baited from the fire guy

[amber fable]

Took me like 10 pulls to understand that

I was like how tf does that safe slice spawn

[worn bluff]

chiyo explained it yest that it's baited on furthest fire player

so the cone will be opposite them

and i think the first one in the fight is just furthest any player

[rapid whale]

ifeel u i had a pull we were at 15% going into ia2, surely clear

then ddos

got it in the end but it was such a struggle to not tilt from that

[limpid edge]

Ddos still goin?

Damn

[rain geode]

God as someone who already suffers with motivation issues the ddos is really compounding issues

[rapid whale]

habbins

doesnt make it any better but ye

[jolly flume]

watch the tail end of our kill lol

honestly kinda criminal

https://youtu.be/Vqf1JjgOgo0?t=16397

all that, a wasted lb3, and we still didn't see the enrage cast

fish was on the floor for 34 seconds, ume for 30

[rain geode]

maybe Ill do my tell retell as a palette cleanser

[remote gate]

question for sanguine screech 2, can a tank solo kill one of the chainball adds? i got more prog in last night but i wasnt able to kill my first chainball. if we can, do I need full blood gauge and three edges to do so?

ik dps and healers are supposed to hard focus a nail and help tanks after a nail is dead but i just wanna be sure

[loud nymph]

afaik, they can - but they shouldn't have to

[remote gate]

is it like a nail should be dead by the time the chainball castbar is 50% full?

[clear plume]

my group had healers send a few gcds but second set was free for tanks to solo

[shy obsidian]

oh btw

how's Tsukuyomi

[jolly flume]

easy

except when it's not

[shy obsidian]

i wanna try it but I'm worried about proggers getting the whole moon thing wrong

[rain geode]

Real easy but there a few more way to mess up and kill the entire party then Seiryu

[shy obsidian]

exactlyyyy

[jolly flume]

how do you kill the entire party

[rain geode]

drop a meteor in the wrong place

uhhh

[loud nymph]

it's very easy but moon comes after add phase and add phase is

[rain geode]

I guess thats it

[jolly flume]

you can drop a meteor in the wrong place but unless it's like insanely far off it's not a wipe is it

idk

[loud nymph]

so when someone inevitably fucks up meteors you have to do the whole boring ass add phase again

[rain geode]

It kinda depends like if its a little off your probably fine but if its in flat out the wrong spots its joever

[last bone]

hello how endgame r we

[shy obsidian]

yes

[jolly flume]

im new

[last bone]

love it

[jolly flume]

[rain geode]

Im new

but like actually

[wicked delta]

block chiyo shiomi hes shit at this game

[loud nymph]

hi new I'm Kinger

[last bone]

🥹✌️

im old

been playjng since 2010

yup

100% true

[rain geode]

Im a new and cute and a kitty.

[loud nymph]

world's #1 WHM player

[last bone]

proof asap.

[shy obsidian]

i'm a newbie who's never touched a savage raid before yep yep 100% fact checked by patriots

[last bone]

jk lol

[rain geode]

Meow

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-people-knuckles-how-it-feels-how-it-feels-to-kill-people-gif-16309833444157562937

[shy obsidian]

why are you green

[rain geode]

Because healer

[wicked delta]

omg you cant just ask people why theyre green

[stray forge]

who is chiyo shiomi

[last bone]

😳

[rain geode]

Dont look at my SGE glam

(its not green)

[stray forge]

people being infamous in ffxiv groups is crazy

[remote gate]

pf troll dont party

[stray forge]

i dont even remember anyones names

[wicked delta]

yeah he totally sucks

[jolly flume]

?

[remote gate]

worse than big mclarge

[jolly flume]

why are you so toxic?

[wicked delta]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-ship-gold-ship-dance-umamusume-dance-golshi-gold-ship-jukebox-gif-8107532327957041509

[shy obsidian]

god i want this outfit so bad but ughhhhH
Savage raiddddd

[visual geyser]

Get it

[remote gate]

just use glamourer lol

[visual geyser]

P11 drops it

[loud nymph]

Wait I just realized chiyo has jp tags despite playing on the same server as me

What a phony

[visual geyser]

Pretty easy

[jolly flume]

I like pink 🥀

[rain geode]

Yeah Im gonna take a shower then do my tell re-tell then Im going do M12N then Im gonna finally start M10S methinks

[visual geyser]

Well tbh I paid people to get me it

[shy obsidian]

do i need a guide for Themis or are we at the point where I can no-brain it

[loud nymph]

fair honestly

[visual geyser]

But p11 should be easier now

[rain geode]

Pink is awesome

[stray forge]

I assumed this would be like half the ppl in this server based on the demographic tbh

[visual geyser]

When I did it yes you did mechanics

[loud nymph]

it was never hard but it should be pretty easy now

[visual geyser]

Mechs you did weren’t hard

But there’s more gear now

[loud nymph]

you might have to do like

shadowed messengers

[remote gate]

say p9s really fast

[rain geode]

I should do one of those collages for all my glams I only made on for healers

[loud nymph]

and maybe lightstream?

[shy obsidian]

but that only has accessoriesssss

[zealous meteor]

because he likes PINK like the STRAIGHT GAYASS he is

[jolly flume]

what the hell

[remote gate]

kokotussy

[rain geode]

I like pink but Im not gay

Im Bi

[zealous meteor]

am i wrong

[shy obsidian]

i love how we all call that one model rig Kokytos when in reality it's just Ifrit 😭

[jolly flume]

wtf is a straight gayass!!

[zealous meteor]

you!!

haven't you said you're like the gayest straight person or some shit

[rapid whale]

ermge

[remote gate]

chiyo has said a lot of things

[shy obsidian]

what the scallop

[daring pine]

bapple is a gay straightass

[wicked delta]

he'd kiss a man for the bit

[zealous meteor]

yeah this checks out

hey chat should i buy ee3

[loud nymph]

chiyo "do gay people use Grindr" shiyomi

[worldly grotto]

Their sexuality is whatever is funnier in that moment

[worldly grotto]

EE3?

[zealous meteor]

encyclopedia eorzea

volume 3

[remote gate]

yes

[loud nymph]

oh I thought you meant

expedition 33

and had just typod

[shy obsidian]

does it have game trailers and showcases

[worldly grotto]

Europa Euniversalis 3

[remote gate]

e33 is a no

[rain geode]

You should buy abiotic factor that game is awesome

[jolly flume]

look man I just thought it was hornier tinder 😭

[loud nymph]

I mean

[daring pine]

i mean

[wicked delta]

well it is

[remote gate]

it is

[daring pine]

oh hi kinger

[zealous meteor]

nah

i already have eu4

with i think all dlc

[shy obsidian]

any hot n sexy game recommendations that'll help me get bitches

[daring pine]

yes people use grindr but the people on there are

so dont

[worldly grotto]

Trick question, games don't get you play

[daring pine]

any crash bandicoot game

[zealous meteor]

ok yeah the only "dlc" i'm missing is music, sprite packs, and [checks notes] history lesson packs

[daring pine]

oh sammm

two days

[loud nymph]

stellaris

[zealous meteor]

if by "bitches" you mean trans women specifically: anything labeled "roguelike" and/or "colony builder"

[loud nymph]

bitches love 4x games

[daring pine]

calling me out like this

[shy obsidian]

what if "bitches" mean gay men

[zealous meteor]

[jolly flume]

ok bro

[zealous meteor]

uhhh i have no idea

[jolly flume]

im finally infogathering on 12p2

what do you mean 3 minute long mechanic

[daring pine]

@wicked delta

[daring pine]

come here.

[shy obsidian]

woah that was fast

[zealous meteor]

idk uh

the sims

or some shit

[daring pine]

i have special powers

[zealous meteor]

my guy friends LOVE the sims

[loud nymph]

oh no

[daring pine]

yo?

[loud nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/danger-gif-15291718235185428481

[daring pine]

what is this

an ultimate or something

[jolly flume]

3 minute long memory check

might as well be

[stray forge]

wth is going on in here

are ppl using grindr to find groups for their savage raids?

[wicked delta]

what???????

😭

[worldly grotto]

Me when I don't know

[jolly flume]

yeah I found my cohealer on grindr

[stray forge]

Idk I opened this channel and ppl were talking about Grindr

[daring pine]

LOL

[wicked delta]

idk we talk about a lot of diff shit

[zealous meteor]

...are you not?

[stray forge]

I mean technically I can but there are only chasers in there

Parse chasers I mean

Of course

[mossy eagle]

Me watching the raidplan change in real time

Good luck lmao

[valid solar]

ngl my one complaint about raidplans is that they explain how to solve the mechanic but they very rarely actually explain how the mechanic works

like sure now I know where to stand if everything goes right but I cant adjust because I dont know why im in that spot to begin with

[shy obsidian]

sooo uhh has anyone stayed on black or white for too long during the moon phases with Tsukuyomi

[rapid whale]

you die

[wicked delta]

yeah you die lol

[random needle]

You get Doom'd

[boreal pumice]

ded

[valid solar]

they're lying you get 3 damage ups

[random needle]

So don't do that

[shy obsidian]

i know but like
is it too common in yoiur parties

[true beacon]

It’s the same as normal

[whole estuary]

I've only seen it mess up one or two people

[boreal pumice]

sometimes ppl dont know when to switch b4 meteors making it awkad

[whole estuary]

it's more likely they get speared

[stray forge]

I’m just a girl

[whole estuary]

I feel like as long as you stay balanced you don't even need to know where to be since the last part automatically puts you on 1 additional stack of the small before turning all big

[stray forge]

Oh wow it’s already 4

Time 2 get ready for prog woohoo

[low hearth]

Yo

[rain geode]

you get an unesunable doom

[valid solar]

hows the m10 prog been going tew

[rain geode]

Ive been putting it off I still need to start

doing my runescape herb runs rn lmao

[low hearth]

Gotta go back to the m10 mines soon…

[rain geode]

honestly might even do my Tell/retell and M12N weekly run before I start to, I gotta stop being lazy.

[jolly flume]

motivation prog

[clear plume]

Door boss is neat; not difficult though I feel

For how short it is there isn’t a real ball buster in it

[jolly flume]

looks very easy besides coil tbh

and coil is like what 2 minutes in

[clear plume]

Coil is unironically

[jolly flume]

p2 I have no idea what im looking at

[clear plume]

The easiest mech in it tbqh

Like it’s like saying hw in top is hard

Like sure for the first 5 pulls

[rain geode]

My greatest enemy in life

[jolly flume]

I've only seen the DN solve for it so far but it looked pretty simple compared to whatever the other groups were doing with 4 in 4 out

[clear plume]

Yeah idk what people are thinking with the 4 in 4 out shit

Really idk where our Strat comes from though

I was just given this

And it’s been super consistent

Hardest part is remembering the order of outside towers dropping

[random needle]

Maybe they decided that they wanted to switch it up after the previous two fourth floors in Arcadion had hard first halves but basic second halves

[clear plume]

Okay but it’s a door boss so absolutely easy door is like why bother

Easy second phase is at least a choke check

[jolly flume]

second phase got me glad I'm playing healer ngl

I just be staring at mechanics pressing 1

watched a little bit of youko's explainer and I could feel wrinkles forming

[clear plume]

Yeah we r doing dn second phase hour long explainer movie night once we clean up these low enrages on door

We keep losing like 2 people to the tethers into move to safe spot thing

[random needle]

It's just like top p1, clearly

[rain geode]

me 2 seconds into prog

[clear plume]

We did call it a cruel looper a few times

But yeah mech is just like, 10 seconds of mechanics for you in 30 seconds of phase so remember your number and check the cheat sheet

And you’re basically guaranteed to be fine

Zero damage basically

Going out from boss

[tulip wraith]

chat whats the odds of getting into aether within the next 4 hours

[shy obsidian]

mayb e

[clear plume]

Roughly zero, maybe 2% if u have plug-in to automate it and actually let it run for the 2 hours

[shy obsidian]

who knows? maybe a lotta peeps will get demotivated by the Xtremes and take a break for the week

[tulip wraith]

my static said to try and meet in aether to fill our last few spots for today but if fear that won't happen

oh well

[granite stag]

If you're already full 8 then the data center doesn't matter right

[worn bluff]

yeah understanding the mechanic helps a lot to save pulls and time. like just knowing how things are baited and by whom

[shy obsidian]

try biting the bullet and go to idk
Primal or Dynamis

[tulip wraith]

we're doing an optional meeting and some people either couldn't or didnt wanna come so we're just filling for whos not showing up

and wanting to do aether cause more people i believe

[granite stag]

Oh, don't go to Dynamis then if you're looking to PF extra raiders.

[mortal flower]

Me after the 3rd time bullshit and split and clone

[tulip wraith]

yeah we're all native to crystal so we might just have to stay there so better than nothing

but was just wondering what the odds of getting in before our meetup time was lol

just hope im not the only one who wasn't able to get it if so

welp i got an appointment soon so hopefully all of aether dies once i get back

[low hearth]

fight blows

[random needle]

Yeah, they do

[jagged aspen]

send help

[craggy marsh]

FERAL SOULS MAKE THE ARCADIAN WHAT IT IS

[boreal pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/thelionking-lionking-mufasa-longlivetheking-scar-gif-20263689

[rain geode]

Alright enough putting things off lets jump in pf

[random needle]

HE WILL COME AND RISE TO THE FIGHT

[low hearth]

My word, such scorn for the challenger!

[craggy marsh]

ARCADIAN

PROTECTED BY HIS ALLLLMIGHTY RIGHT

[brisk scarab]

Going through HW1, is flails mech easier with LP on their flail then converge on nail? Or is winging it the typical strat

Obviously melee starts on tower before it expands past melee range, but otherwise Ive been thinking about easier ways

[random needle]

The suggestion I've usually seen is for tanks to get their flails, everyone else focuses nail, melees go to flails after they can't get in melee range anymore, but I've seen a lot of people complain that that usually leads to the flails not dying in time

[kind elm]

the real solution is being in vc with ur group and going "help help help flail pls"

works everytime

[brisk scarab]

II see

[low hearth]

😂 Eat this!!

[boreal pumice]

i hear this in all mights voice

[brisk scarab]

The issue Ive seen PF-ing is definitely a flail going unnoticed, so I thought each party prioritizing one makes it easier

[fierce matrix]

Yeah thats about right

Its a rough enrage

[random needle]

Trusted friends of mine seem to say that a tank and a melee should be more than enough per flail, so the ranged and healers can likely focus the doornail

[fierce matrix]

Ngl, we just had ranged killed nails and melee kills fails on either of our sides

And thats enough dps

If they cant do enough thats a genuine skill issue

[random needle]

And once tanks have more gear, they can probably merc the flails on their own

[fierce matrix]

We didnt even have melee pad the nail before they moved

We just targeted the boss lmao

You have more than enough dps

Also idyllic dream is gonna make me fucking yell lmao

This shit sucks ass

[random needle]

Describe it in DSR terms

[valid solar]

Idyllic dream is p12p2 mech right

[jolly flume]

3 minutes of death of the heavens combined with that gif of the monkey playing the memory game but you are the monkey and you have to remember it for 3 minutes not 3 seconds yippeee

[random needle]

[trim frost]

second time today i've seen someone say p12 instead of m12

[jolly flume]

https://tenor.com/view/osu-neurolink-ape-neurolink-ape-gaming-gif-14717492578453726737

[fierce matrix]

Yes

Bro this shit

Aaaaa

[dull drum]

our static did one melee and tank paired up north and south ranged on nail

worked fine pt much

[fierce matrix]

Me when im one foot in the defam and get launched to Narnia

[brisk scarab]

I just got told nail with only ranged while tanks/melee go N and S isnt a good strat Its not even that big of a dps check

From what I can tell so far

[dull drum]

def not necessary if you have functioning humans

[trim frost]

hard ask

[fierce matrix]

People are ass if thats the case

If they can't dps it enough then they need to learn how to press buttons

[brisk scarab]

Im just PF-ing, so I should probably keep expectations low then

[random needle]

However low your expectations are for PF, they probably aren't low enough

[thin fox]

does anyone have the 'better snaking' raidplan

[trim frost]

what does better snaking entail

[thin fox]

girl that's what i'm asking

[random needle]

https://raidplan.io/plan/Cmo_RpCDbsUSMV5c

[random needle]

I think this one

[trim frost]

i see some shit called nomnom

is that better snaking

oh

[random needle]

I'm pretty sure nomnom is bettersnaking yeah

[thin fox]

oh does red hot only do this based on the fire players?

[dull drum]

yes

[thin fox]

ok this is good

[low hearth]

mfs keep hitting the fucking bubble with water tether man

https://tenor.com/view/speed-mad-angry-ishowspeed-sheisty-gif-13492318246358992086

[trim frost]

the one thing you're not supposed to do and they fuck it up

[random needle]

My bad, color blind

[low hearth]

its not even hard bruh

[dull drum]

also

inx never invited me for co tank prog

like wtf man

[worn bluff]

the safe cone will go opposite the furthest fire player

when the cast resolves

[thin fox]

yeah I just didnt realise its based on fire players specifically

@dull drum you are LITERALLY in a static

[dim pollen]

Man I love getting good parties in pf

I had a great prog today and I am skipping

[scarlet lintel]

for m11s, toxic arena split and kindred arena split (witohut the buddy system) are compatible right?
if a party is doing toxic i can do kindred without killing anyone?

[pine holly]

What's pf doing for that, yoloing it?

[low hearth]

theres a brain dead strat now

[pine holly]

The parallel one?

[low hearth]

u take first fire to north or south

yea

[shy obsidian]

I LOVE WORQOR CHIRTEH

[low hearth]

first water tether u just go across from deep blue without crossing

[pine holly]

Rip can't post it

[low hearth]

u dont even gotta do all that as long as no noob hits the dumb bubble with water bruh

[pine holly]

You would think only the first person could mess it up

[wicked delta]

how the fuck do you do savage content and you let your 2 minute drift by 60 years

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-reaction-reactions-meme-gif-8141100727479891642

[low hearth]

mb

[wicked delta]

this ast was allergic to pressing div

[rain geode]

Snaking is kinda a headache

[low hearth]

snaking

[rain geode]

Its like not that bad but the fact you have to do eithe randomly makes it annoying

[random needle]

I mean, consider the alternative

Imagine getting into a reclear party and everyone only knows how to do the fire pattern

[rain geode]

I could see that being a problem for the melees I guess

[rapid whale]

Imagine the leylines

I have to delay my 2 or just miss it altogether

[random needle]

Picto doesn't even get retrace, whoof

[dull drum]

i have an alt

i can play with you

we dont splits until w2

SIGH

but no invite

[rapid whale]

Gg inx racist

[boreal pumice]

Did they pull a mango ?

[craggy marsh]

I said im homephobic

[rapid whale]

housing scares me too

[mortal flower]

You're homiephobic?

You're uninvited to the bro meetup where we play kart racers splitscreen with pizza

[pine holly]

Hey bro what's up

wanna play Smash bros

I brought two controllers

and some axe

[zealous meteor]

smashing bros?????

[kind elm]

man i wonder who that CEST guy is

crying

ok is the fucking m10s cutback blaze on furthest or random

i keep hearing diff things

[boreal pumice]

Yes

[pine holly]

I believe it's random

[trim frost]

if you just stack together it doesn't matter smile

[kind elm]

true actually

[pine holly]

I don't think there's any value in treating it like it's furthest even if it was

[trim frost]

can someone tell me what's different about this compared to normal tf because i'm not playing spot the difference https://raidplan.io/plan/uE1jm_M3oD-P6Ww8

[low hearth]

think its furthest

but like that doesnt matter just stack next to the boss

[pine holly]

It looks like it's just more context on some mechanics

and more clear descriptions of what's happening

[random needle]

The thing I don't like about a lot of raidplans is that they don't explain how mechanics work, only what you're supposed to do to solve them if everything goes right

[zealous meteor]

i wonder.

[pine holly]

Yeah it's because they're written fairly quickly and not necessairly meant for the average raider who is not actively watching world prog

Though I did have moments in DSR even following the NAUR stuff where they would leave out what's exactly happening during some mechanics or omit certain failure states

I remember during Wroth I just assumed if you stayed in the fire too long you would take a bleed, nah turns out you just explode.

[trim frost]

streets saying this has to be a water tank but is that true

[rapid whale]

it has the word (improved) added to the title you're welcome

[rapid whale]

yea water tank has to be the furthest

[trim frost]

wow.............

[rapid whale]

ya man

[trim frost]

so presumably first deep impact can just be mt invulned and then this one during snaking probably needs cd in case it's the same tank again

[worn bluff]

so i guess in the better snaking raidplan the intent was that casters stay near the puddles they just dropped for jumps, for less movement

which makes sense

but i'm not finding where they said that in the raidplan? or am i looking at the wrong one

[jolly flume]

I do kinda hate toxic friends for making me do a cross map sprint on healer to bait second

but whatever

boss died

[worn bluff]

i like taking the first 2 TBs normally, and then both tanks save invuln for the snaking TBs

[jolly flume]

my phys range ended up taking second bait half the time anyways bc he was like its ok I gotchu dude

maybe pranges do deserve rights after all

[worn bluff]

invuln for snaking deep impact feels nice just during prog when things can get scuffed

so you can just run into the fire and do whatever

[rapid whale]

stand in the fire and put the invuln in the bag

yea

lol

[jolly flume]

it makes it easier if people fuck up the cutback

[rapid whale]

"if"

Clueless

[worn bluff]

the first 2 TBs in the fight nothing is really happening, so you just throw a few CDs at it

[boreal pumice]

Any loot

[rapid whale]

good joke

[jolly flume]

astro getting loot

lol

[low hearth]

Hey, save some fun for me!

[boreal pumice]

I thought you were on sch

[jolly flume]

thats equally unlikely to get loot

[low hearth]

Deep Blue's lost his cool! 😂 He's tagging in! 🗣️

[jolly flume]

I only got the necklace because we basically did splits of 9

and nobody else really needed it

[worn bluff]

i hate when the wave goes down the middle and i'm fire tank trying to place the boss because better snakes wants you to aim the cone to the side

if i run into the safe lane then the boss gets pulled too far to that side

[rapid whale]

the deep impact aoe surprisingly big

[worn bluff]

and if i stay with the fire puddles, boss is next to them and party doesn't know what to do with the baits

i wish the raidplan just said to aim it at the corner or something

[dull drum]

pf tank called me lazy for invulning those

ok where else do you invuln

🤡

[low hearth]

just invuln the snaking busters bro

that dumb ass fight is unclearable bruh

[boreal pumice]

How dare you use your abilities

[low hearth]

always some moron in fire group dying to baits

holy shit

then mfs doing random tethers in deep aerial

unless holmgang is back for it i guess

[rapid whale]

cue doom train ex debate

we were really so bored ebfore savage huh lol

[low hearth]

14 hours of my life gone in m10s

🥀

[boreal pumice]

See I was thinking that like is invun the towers now lazy or just a strat

[sleek moon]

huh wdym? they are moving back mid

[worn bluff]

i mean where they take their fire jumps

when i saw the better snakes raidplan i thought they just had fixed positions with M/T on 2 marker, H/R on 3 marker

but apparently it's M/T far from where you drop the 2nd set of puddles, H/R close

so it's relative to the 2nd puddles. or at least that's what my party said

[sleek moon]

yeah and whoever isnt baiting has to go back to 1st puddles to not accidentally bait early

[worn bluff]

well they just have to be closer than the next bait

R doesn't have to go all the way up to 2 and then back

[sleek moon]

not 2 but 1st puddles aka mid

[worn bluff]

yeah so in this case M would hang out near 2 closer to mid, and R would hang out near 3 closer to mid

i read the raidplan as meaning it's always those markers, or TN

but people were saying no it's relative to those corner puddles

[fierce matrix]

Yeah you want fire all of the same side

[worn bluff]

yeah i get putting all on the same side, it was just more who's north and who's south

[fierce matrix]

That way when you do the cutback, you just bait it towards the fire and congrats you have a safe spot

[low hearth]

tanks and melees north healer and ranged south

[fierce matrix]

I think they do it relative to the cone

[undone tide]

wow people are very bad at m11s

not even the hard mechanics

[fierce matrix]

Ive seen tank melee far healer caster close

[worn bluff]

yeah it seems like it's relative, and that makes sense

i just didn't see that part mentioned in the raidplan

so there was confusion at first

[kind elm]

looking at the better snaking raidplan, i still havent actually instanced into the fight so i might be misunderstanding smth

but here, cant the line aoe from the water KB come on the side thats clear of fire? and then theres like no space? what do then, just adjust lmao

[low hearth]

like how are we still dying to snaking in a ia2 party

[worn bluff]

yeah that’s where i feel it’s really awkward to place the fire tank

at least with this raidplan wanting you to bait the cone to the side after

[sleek moon]

isnt the safe spot always opposite of where the party is standing?

[kind elm]

yeah liek

[low hearth]

yes

[undone tide]

yeah my greed on m11s is bound to be insane

[sleek moon]

wait i misread your question

[kind elm]

like the KB line aoe

wwhere hes surfin his shit fr

if it goes on the side that doesnt have lal the fire puddles

is there just no space

[worn bluff]

so if the wave goes down the middle, fire tank needs to be on either side and the boss won’t really be mid

it’s not really that bad if the party knows to just bait the cone towards a corner or something

but the raidplan tells them to bait west

also not that big of a deal if water tank is invulning the TB after i guess

[undone tide]

this tier fucking rocks man.

[worn bluff]

because they can just run into the fire

[undone tide]

oh niko

do u want a pld pov

of 10

[worn bluff]

of the gap close?

[undone tide]

full fight

[worn bluff]

oh ye

i saw yours in balance

i need to study it

[undone tide]

https://youtu.be/FdDj4H0uo2g?si=gtPJGehQjDojDdaB

[worn bluff]

i keep forgetting

[undone tide]

like and subscribe!!!

[worn bluff]

[undone tide]

looks like shit but idrc

[worn bluff]

tbh i’m kind of overstimulated so i prob won’t be able to do half of this rn

so much going on at prog point

not used to the fight and i’ve only done FRU on PLD

[dull drum]

for 50 plat

[torn kindle]

Oh god M11S hurts so fucking much

[jolly flume]

put the gcd in the bag

6 helios conjunctions in a row yes sir coming right up

[torn kindle]

Sage be like E.Prog > Toxikon > E.Prog > Toxikon > E.Prog > Toxikon

[jolly flume]

I fear it do be like that

[sleek moon]

ok according to my sample size of 8 clear vids the kb only comes from N/S, and if its cleaving mid then you'd do something like this https://youtu.be/Uym6JGKbPfU?t=310

[boreal pumice]

BALD

[kind elm]

does the deep impact after the cutback ONLY target water players or do fire players need to make sure their ass is not far away from blue

[torn mesa]

we actually did the opposite of TF lol

they have H/R in the corner with the fire, T/M in the open area

[thin fox]

I believe it can only target a water player in the same way Red Hot's tankbuster goes after a fire player

[jolly flume]

oh ok in that case I kinda hate our static for making me do a cross map sprint on healer to bait second

[sleek moon]

i would assume it only targets water but nobody else should be away from red by that point

[jolly flume]

[worn bluff]

furthest water player yeah

[kind elm]

okiiii

[worn bluff]

but with the tiny cone there’s not really anywhere you can go

[torn mesa]

we literally started with doing TF as intended

I don't even know why we switched

[sleek moon]

yeah isnt deep impact a circle aoe anyways

[jolly flume]

im trying so hard to sell my friend on the melees in bubble strat rn bc I'm watching them enrage deep aerial over and over to melees getting assassinated

it is yes

[torn mesa]

you gain/lose nothing as T/M going to the clear corner

[sleek moon]

being anywhere near the tank is death

[torn mesa]

I went back and watched the VOD from yesterday

[kind elm]

finally

[torn mesa]

counting how many deaths during that part I could realistically adjust for if I was faster

2 out of like 8

[rain geode]

took a break from prog to do my tell/retell and Im like actually almost falling asleep in my chair lmao

[zealous meteor]

i would recommend not being asleep

[worn bluff]

it’s basically up to the tanks whether you live or not. where they place the bosses (ideally on top of each other)

[sleek moon]

why did people set on tanks going in anyways

[jolly flume]

just figured it was tank damage because big tower and bleed debuff I guess lol

who knows

[rain geode]

Im trying

Its like half im just actually sleepy and half man that fight is easy

[jolly flume]

I like that the fight gives you agency to choose though

[torn mesa]

also, in hindsight

[sleek moon]

that means healers go in so they dont have to move

easy

[torn mesa]

opting for the double straight deep aerial

[rain geode]

Im probably gonna troll any parties I join rn so I guess Im chillin'

[torn mesa]

and then saying fuck it after trying it like twice

was a bad idea

[jolly flume]

yeah

[torn mesa]

it was so much more consistent when we actually set it up

[jolly flume]

like I said all we had to do

was figure out the setup

[worn bluff]

we tried putting dps in for fun one pull and the DRG said never put me in there again

[jolly flume]

and the entire rest of the mechanic is fucking free

[sleek moon]

just merely do the mechanics right

and the mechanics will be free

[rain geode]

but its still to early to go to bed maybe Ill make a beach glam for tommorows prog

[undone tide]

die

[jolly flume]

ok but its harder to do mechanics right when you're trying not to get jfk'd

case in point

[torn mesa]

the other thing was

our leniency for killing it despite fuck ups

was a good deal higher with melees in too

[undone tide]

pf will never do melees in because pf healers are very bad

[jolly flume]

I mean it literally doesnt even matter if they're bad

I cast like 4 malefics during that entire phase

rest of the time I'm headless chickening casting heals or casting nothing at all

[scarlet lintel]

damnit man

[jolly flume]

check still giga free

[torn mesa]

well, I guess if straight tethers become normalized

[scarlet lintel]

i wasted like hours on arena split cause of the wrong markers

[torn mesa]

it doesn't really matter who goes in

[jolly flume]

even then its just free uptime for melees

like I'm sure you can do some fucking demonic shit to not throw a ranged but

so much less effort

[rain geode]

Lets compromise do one of each

[torn mesa]

before we swapped to melee mid

I was comfortable greeding fire but not water

water is like I need like a second to adjust it properly

[jolly flume]

yeah I always had to microadjust to not short tether myself with water

it's a little tight

[torn mesa]

I learned the hard way when I died to 1 such case with water

[worn bluff]

DRG loses all their jumps it was fun to find that out

[jolly flume]

does pf hold 2s for after deep aerial

[worn bluff]

just a regular dude with a spear now

[jolly flume]

if they do it shouldn't even matter bc drg wont send 1s during that phase

[kind elm]

im now hearing theres a fire watersnaking 2 that is not identical to the first one, why the fuck is that not in the raidplan

[undone tide]

yes but it’s generally agreed upon that you send if something goes wrong

idr if my clear held

[jolly flume]

is there

there's an insane air if you mean that

[kind elm]

the timeline on the side of toxic friends lists "xtreme water/firesnaking"

[jolly flume]

oh yeah I think the cast is called xtreme watersnaking but everyone just calls it IA2 because it's literally IA2

[kind elm]

like 7 minutes into the fight

[jolly flume]

lol

[kind elm]

omg this raidplan is so ass

does not list this shit

[worn bluff]

when it says “tanks swap during TB”

and then “if TB is first swap immediately”

is that redundant? or does it mean something different

[jolly flume]

means the same thing

the second you see tb telegraph you swap

so you should get hit by the opposite polarity TB as your debuff

[scarlet lintel]

Wasted a lot of time I hope I can clear today and that that gives me enough time to clear m12s before the week ends.

[undone tide]

chiyo

ur current hair is modded right

[sleek moon]

it think its just reminding people that tank breaks the priority of HMR even if it's the first one

because guaranteed some people wouldnt get that

[jolly flume]

yea

[undone tide]

fuck.

[jolly flume]

blame se and their 240p vanilla dogshit

[pale blade]

Can't believe I'm already halfway through Blowjob Brothers

[undone tide]

50% does not equal halfway through

[hot rose]

Dying to the water greave enrage without any deaths is craaaaazy work

[low hearth]

ok i finally got a group that can get to ia2 consistent after 15 hours

[low hearth]

😝

[jolly flume]

you probably vuln downed it lol

because there ain't no way you fail that shit clean

if it was actually clean it's time to bl everyone in that party

[low hearth]

yea

[hot rose]

And this happens bc someones watered clipped it

Orr

[jolly flume]

yes

[hot rose]

Does that happen when an orb aoe spawns

Cause i saw like 3 spawn…

[low hearth]

someone noobed out bro

yooo @jolly flume yoooo

do u hold 2 minutes during ia2

[jolly flume]

no thats just when water and fire overlap

which you can do without hitting the bubble

[low hearth]

isnt 2 minutes + pot cleave after that huge

thats like easy orange bruh

[jolly flume]

yeah

[brisk scarab]

So like, when is fatales glam gonna be available to buy

[trim frost]

erm

[brisk scarab]

Oh

[boreal pumice]

[brisk scarab]

Isnt that her npc model

[boreal pumice]

well yes

[trim frost]

i mean

[brisk scarab]

I was referring to her boss one, unless their the same and Im.dumb

[trim frost]

unless you want them to sell another recolor of existing gear but for real money

lol

[shy obsidian]

apparently she also has a wingless version of the Clouddark Top when she's sitting on her couch

[brisk scarab]

How often is boss glam made available

[boreal pumice]

slut mug + hat is common

[trim frost]

not super often

unless it's especially iconic like omega

[shy obsidian]

also Sugar Riot also has some custom pants too
and Red Hot has a custom necklace as well
why do these particular NPCs get cool custom gear

[trim frost]

galatea is a funny one but i guess everyone really wanted that

[brisk scarab]

Like obviously the model is different and the outfit would have to be made for all races, but I like it

I am now reminded to get through the chaotic raid lol

[shy obsidian]

i genuinely forgot how to do that but like
I want the fashion againnn

[brisk scarab]

Did people enjoy that raid?

I wasnt available to be online on its release

[shy obsidian]

twas refreshing to have 24 clowns instead of 8 clowns for once

[brisk scarab]

I would sell my soul for the clouddark fending chest piece

[low hearth]

yo mfs gotta move away so the water tank can spread holy shit

[shy obsidian]

still annoying that a small mistake could ruin the entire raid tho lol

[boreal pumice]

you can make abit of money doing cod so it has some value and its not super hard

[sleek moon]

PF was pretty active for it, but I will not comment on enjoyment

[boreal pumice]

enjoyment may vary based on party memebers

[brisk scarab]

Ive been in the radar discord for so long but have been putting off getting it cleared

Might have to finally do it once and for all

[shy obsidian]

I wanna do San d'Oria again but I'm worried that it won't be as full as it once was

like uhh the queue times, that is

[sleek moon]

The body checks felt like such a terrible idea

[boreal pumice]

doesnt hurt to get some coins to buy your twines and stuff if you havent got your savage gear by then or wish to gear a alt job

[undone tide]

Ok there’s still 0 m12s parties

that makes me pretty comfortable with my prog

[boreal pumice]

you get to be the first to make a m12s pf king

[brisk scarab]

I think I can clear m1 tonight

[boreal pumice]

9?

[brisk scarab]

I mean m9

[trim frost]

i still don't know why they implemented a capability for a group of 12 people to go in but then not make it clearable with 12 people

[brisk scarab]

Why didnt they do what they did for FT

[boreal pumice]

maybe for unsynched reasons idk tbh

[undone tide]

oh definitely not i’m cleaning arena split now

m11 split*

[brisk scarab]

Max 24 Min 12

Scales to players

[trim frost]

ft has the benefit of chunky potency duty actions

[brisk scarab]

True

Speaking of, think FT2 will be an improvement?

[trim frost]

just having the existence of a normal mode will help

[brisk scarab]

True

Is FT been improved to fit for casuals? Havent done it since my clear

I know entering changed

[trim frost]

um

it's still not puggable really

[brisk scarab]

Dang

[trim frost]

but it is significantly easier to get an organized group into a single instance now

but honestly attempting it the way that it worked before kinda killed all my motivation for even trying

[brisk scarab]

Is it still 5min pop up after a newly filled instance?

[low hearth]

the samurai players have redeemed themselves

i guess i was wrong...

can't let one bad apple ruin the bunch

[boreal pumice]

luckly they learned their lesson for north horn doing 2 different versions a story one like drn and the harder one like drs , hopefully learned from how ppl queue for it since holy that was bad BA bad

[versed kayak]

I feel like FT showed that they apparently learned nothing :D

[boreal pumice]

it is honestly abit of huh so you learned from BA when you drn /s but you repeat the mistake again? idk if its jp culture where randoms Q but that dont work for others

[versed kayak]

JP hated the original FT I think

afaik they called it "instance gacha", trying to get into the same instance as the other groups

And they only queue extremes after practicing them in PF

Which you can't do with FT

[brisk scarab]

Wasnt the whole thing about local FT instance queueing they followed JP online etiquette or something

Then they hated it too LOL