I got the wings
#endgame-lounge
valid solar
I got the wings
valid solar
go to the housing discord and pay someone to do it for you
undone tide
like ur telling me i have TWO HUNDRED item slots????
valid solar
undone tide
i ain’t paying for shit
loud nymph
like ur telling me i have TWO HUNDRED item slots????
200 framed portraits of merlwyb
undone tide
shes not that hot
loud nymph
shes not that hot
Heresy
zealous meteor
halone ,,
valid solar
it should be gingerbread core
valid solar
thin fox
Today I'm probably gonna start trying to merc Zelenia
boreal pumice
dapper zealot
Casual Kirby eldritch horror
pale blade
alright
mossy eagle
Casual Kirby eldritch horror
Bro pay some respect to Time Wizard
valid solar
https://tenor.com/view/outer-wilds-jerma-time-loop-onion-ring-gif-25502534
why didnt he just check the enigma codex ? is he stupid ?
sly basin
that is much wiser... i was lowkey worried it might get deleted by the bot and marked as spam lol
valid solar
that is much wiser... i was lowkey worried it might get deleted by the bot and m...
Yes becauzse you can get automuted when the share code has a slur in it
sly basin
remote gate
square enix will consider this fair and balanced
visual geyser
Why is that lalafell so small
zealous meteor
why not
loud nymph
Smalllafell
wintry elbow
@kinger is there a date for when 8.0 comes out?
i don't think my "at" thing worked 🙁
sly basin
@kinger is there a date for when 8.0 comes out?
@loud nymph
idk how discord updated it but its very annoying to use now
worldly grotto
@kinger is there a date for when 8.0 comes out?
No
Our guess is anywhere between winter 2026 to summer 2027
wintry elbow
So if i try for the new weapons, it will be awhile before the new weapons come out?
zealous meteor
"the new weapons"? what do you mean?
wintry elbow
"the new weapons"? what do you mean?
the bygone brass weapon
like i have time to learn and work on it, before a new weapon comes in.
zealous meteor
yes
but you can just get it from tomestones, you don't really need to learn any fights
visual geyser
yknow what i hate
why is this set this vibrant
like we dont have a blue dye this bright
😡
remote gate
8.0
visual geyser
😡
fierce matrix
So if i try for the new weapons, it will be awhile before the new weapons come o...
Basically youll have around atleast a year where this current gear will be BiS
Same with crafter gear
wintry elbow
Basically youll have around atleast a year where this current gear will be BiS
and is that balance website up to date on what gear i get for pld?
fierce matrix
The weapons from Savage will be replaced by ultimate weapons if you do that, and subsequential the relic weapon 4 months after that. But those are very very very minor stat differences
fierce matrix
and is that balance website up to date on what gear i get for pld?
All bis sets should be updated ya
Pre-raid bis and current max ilvl bis
wintry elbow
ok, thank you
fierce matrix
Yeah np. And thats on the low end btw
Thats expecting 4 months between 7.4->7.5, 7.5->7.55 and then 7.55->8.0. More than likely 7.55->8.0 is going to vary
Im guessing 6 months and slotting it around Feb/march 2027 but thats just my thoughts
remote gate
cool that ultimate weapons get to be the ultimate weapons up until the very end of DT
fierce matrix
Relics will kill em a few months later 
loud nymph
relic might even be same patch as ultimate tbh
fierce matrix
My triple meld is useless
fierce matrix
relic might even be same patch as ultimate tbh
Most likely not
But who knows
I doubt they'll do a .55 release, they'll prob just push back. .51 a few weeks imo
loud nymph
relics have all been in the .x1 patch thus far
for DT
and that's traditionally also when ultimate comes out
quick verge
they're gonna tie the last relic step to north horn release
loud nymph
Oh you're right initial OC was 7.25 not 7.21, I got that mixed up with CE
sly basin
hmmm i kinda wanna farm the ex wings im missing but what if the final ex mount sux ass 
loud nymph
it will
quick verge
the 100% collection mount will be good this expac
but next expac it wont be good
maybe middling at best
hope this forecast helps you
sly basin
thank u biscuit
fierce matrix
hmmm i kinda wanna farm the ex wings im missing but what if the final ex mount s...
Then it sucks ass but atleast you have the mounts
sly basin
Then it sucks ass but atleast you have the mounts
hmmm true my mount number could go up
loud nymph
really wish this game had mount collection achievements
fierce matrix
Completionist mindset
loud nymph
I need my special snowflake rewards for making number go up
sly basin
i do like when kupo bot tells me my % owned
sly basin
my numbers are p nice rn
fierce matrix
Hold on
sly basin
50% and 75%
fierce matrix
Its 266
fierce matrix
a 6 not a 7
Die
quick verge
i was right
fierce matrix
Dont go to school tomorrow
alpine plover
quick verge
(i havent gotten a single interv)
themis would intervention you
thin tartan
(they start with stance on its pissing me off)
alpine plover
Villy on Rails
thin tartan
(gulp)
quick verge
best 0.9
alpine plover
hey they cleared necron
quick verge
kills 20
thin tartan
generational gameplay
loud nymph
I have run into more pf terrorists on tanks than any other role in this ex
loud nymph
the sheer number of tanks who won't fucking gap close after express
killing me with spreads
quick verge
tanks are interesting creatures
loud nymph
had a GNB who wouldn't do it the other day
when I asked why they were like "it was on CD"
brother
alpine plover
some people will NOT mit anything unless they are 15% hp
alpine plover
i heal chaotic and it's very obvious when tanks press any mit or not mit
fierce matrix
tanks are interesting creatures
Could be worse, could be buying fru clears and then flexing that shit even tho its bought . Ive seen 3 melee players do that shit to me
Now im racist against melee players
quick verge
your soul actually got ragebaited
fierce matrix
Its ONLY MELEE PLAYERS
quick verge
you have to fight them in front of a waffle house or some shit now
fierce matrix
Or my melee from anabesios
alpine plover
At 4 pm
fierce matrix
That fuck magically progged all of top and got 7 kills in a week
Then bought his week 1 clear
Didnt know how to do any mechs in p12s
No clue how to do party syn
thin tartan
??
fierce matrix
Yet had the weapons
quick verge
LOL
fierce matrix
The...party stack one?
thin tartan
fierce matrix
Was there no mit?
boreal pumice
did ppl think the war was gonna holm or somthin
boreal pumice
then why you dying
alpine plover
Isn't that plenary
loud nymph
did people duck out of the tower before the 3rd hit
alpine plover
First thing first line
fierce matrix
Yeah thats the only way
94k means people left the tower early or died on second hit
wintry elbow
the internet says i augment the bygone brass from Theone but i am not getting that option, do i have to do a quest first to unlock it?
loud nymph
huh
boreal pumice
jan 6
loud nymph
you can't augment bygone brass
boreal pumice
dude are you looking at bis?
loud nymph
where are you reading that on the internet
wintry elbow
i have my bis list
thin tartan
...
wintry elbow
i just got the ring and looking to augment it 🙂
boreal pumice
brother
loud nymph
bygone brass cannot be augmented until savage drops, savage doesn't drop for another week
loud nymph
10 bucks says AI summary
zealous meteor
and to augment it before patch 7.5 drops you'll have to do savage
alpine plover
You augment it with the material from m10 savage
wintry elbow
the level 100 guide you guys gave me before. it is very useful 😄
thin tartan
what link
alpine plover
Which is not available yet
boreal pumice
i assume its the balance?
boreal pumice
no none of us would link that
wintry elbow
and i know thats not a boosted website cuz you guys gave it to me
fierce matrix
Oh
zealous meteor
and put in stuff that's not available for another week
fierce matrix
You also should not be getting the tome weapon tbh if you plan on doing savage
thin tartan
ok this is just updated in advance lol
alpine plover
It's not available yet
thin tartan
[IL 775] Current extreme trial weapons (Trial Hell on Rails (Extreme)): Runaway Weapons
[IL 780] Current weekly-capped tomestone gear (Allagan Tomestone of Mnemonics Allagan Tomestone of Mnemonics): Bygone Brass Weapons, Bygone Brass Armor, and Bygone Brass Accessorie
you stop here
anything past here
fierce matrix
You wanna save your tomes for the gear
thin tartan
is not a thing yet
fierce matrix
Chest should be first buy
fierce matrix
Then braclet iirc
thin tartan
DDOS O CLOCK
wintry elbow
thin fox
wintry elbow
that told me to get the ring 😄
boreal pumice
fierce matrix
You wanna focus big purchases first
fierce matrix
sly basin
im done w ff14 for now 
fierce matrix
This is what you want currently
sick reef
im done w ff14 for now <:playdead:593162355274285075>
cya tomorrow
fierce matrix
You can tab through the tome purchases btw
Its neck not bracelet aswell am stupid
You wanna get that pre-raid bis, fill in the slots with your other tome gear and then focus on raiding to replace everything else
Youll get the augments from Savage
boreal pumice
the hells a RP farm
sick reef
the hells a RP farm
balmung activities
fierce matrix
Do not buy the weapon with tomestones though
boreal pumice
balmung activities
zealous meteor
do you want to do savage? because if not, just focus on getting tomestone pieces, using crafted or normal raid gear until you have a full set
thin tartan
cuz im eating shit to autos and ic ant cover eveyrthing
sly basin
"ur the first to ever ask for it" thats because most ppl are too polite in this game, we NEED to be more rude to others
fierce matrix
I think youre the first ever to ask for it is crazy
Bro doesnt use buddy mit
Wild
Especially on 54-60k autos
boreal pumice
cuz im eating shit to autos and ic ant cover eveyrthing
billy an their ot
alpine plover
Not allowed to argue
jolly flume
normalize voke spamming the train
sick reef
u just gotta mit better idk what to say /j
jolly flume
shared busters are suggestions in normal content
zealous meteor
they first show up in MOGGLE MOG
boreal pumice
was it one from m8? that kinda hard to see at first
zealous meteor
they have had FIFTY LEVELS to figure it out
sly basin
m10
boreal pumice
fierce matrix
normalize voke spamming the train
So I actually use shirk constantly
And use my ot as mit
When they dont buddy mit me
jolly flume
yeah that's good
fierce matrix
Every two minutes you are my 100% mit
alpine plover
Meat shield on another level
fierce matrix
Its only fair
alpine plover
It is
boreal pumice
cant find any good parties for ex7 party on light
tall field
ex6 u mean
fierce matrix
Vali
Zoraal Ja
Sphene
Zelenia
Necron
Arkveld
Doomtrain
boreal pumice
no 7 
fierce matrix
That be 7
tall field
Ark doesnt count for some people, cos numbers only belong to MSQ trials
So ye some call it ex6
fierce matrix
Its the 7th ex trial to come out this expac
boreal pumice
fierce matrix
Those people be dumb
tall field
Basically Honor how we did it in EW
EW had 7 Numbered trials, all MSQ
DT SHould follow suit
We dont count that hildi there
fierce matrix
Thats cause it wasnt EX
boreal pumice
only one that gets a pass is meme ex
fierce matrix
We still included fuckstick old man in the EX counting in ShB
And that wasnt main story
And the old msq trials were also not msq trials
tall field
Idk how pre EW trials were numbered tbh
fierce matrix
They were side trials
tall field
EW was mostly the msq ones
And when i talk about it in pld lounge they refer to it as ex6
For doomtrain
tall field
making it difficult to decide which, heck we all call arcadion M but some call it R still
fierce matrix
Why would be call it R
zealous meteor
if only trials had names that aren't super spoilery
tall field
I referred doomtrain as ex6
fierce matrix
I mean thats fine but also M stands for Match
mossy eagle
Did we even use numbers in ShB?
zealous meteor
I mean thats fine but also M stands for Match
yeah but the game uses M1-M4 three times
i get why people don't wanna use M, it's confusing
mossy eagle
I thought that started specifically to avoid EW spoilers
alpine plover
ex train
fierce matrix
Did we even use numbers in ShB?
I remember using it yeah
zealous meteor
I thought that started specifically to avoid EW spoilers
that would make sense
stares at "the mothercrystal"
fierce matrix
But also more people just said the name cause people didnt give a fuck about spoilers back then
tall field
How spoilery is voidcast dais?
mossy eagle
I'm definitely of the opinion that the extra ex should be excluded
tall field
too much?
fierce matrix
Not at all lmao
zealous meteor
But also more people just said the name cause people didnt give a fuck about spo...
to be fair "hades ex" is less obviously a spoiler than "hydaelyn ex"
vestal hollow
I'm definitely of the opinion that the extra ex should be excluded
my logic is it doesnt drop wings so it should not be counted
zealous meteor
because hades's name isn't revealed until the final quest of 5.0
boreal pumice
ppl will ask whats that and likely just say golbez
fierce matrix
to be fair "hades ex" is less obviously a spoiler than "hydaelyn ex"
Knowing that emet is hades, it is about equally as spoilers
mossy eagle
I mean idgaf about logic, my brain just prefers ordering such that I can tie a number to a patch
zealous meteor
Knowing that emet is hades, it is about equally as spoilers
difference is if you're talking about it without showing screenshots or whatever, it's not obvious that hades is emet
mossy eagle
EX3 always being the X.1 extreme, for instance
quick verge
who's excited for t73s
fierce matrix
Bro still calls it T
mossy eagle
who's excited for t73s
Shut up biscuit no one likes you
fierce matrix
Tbf i still use turns
quick verge
Shut up biscuit no one likes you
money spread
mossy eagle
Homeowner check
fierce matrix
But also I dont think M is a confusing thing since every raid tier has used 1-12
fierce matrix
And someone going "oh m4s" as m12s is just looking stupid lmao
mossy eagle
Biscuit you have to have money to spread it
mossy eagle
And someone going "oh m4s" as m12s is just looking stupid lmao
I kind of want to do this just to be a butt
And then act really dumb and go "oh I'm just looking at the in-game name"
tall field
I need m4s
U mean wicked thunder
No i need heavyweight m4s
tall field
THe moment gonna happen
fierce matrix
Wait
jade nimbus
mhm, this reminds me
zealous meteor
And someone going "oh m4s" as m12s is just looking stupid lmao
it's less of a problem with savage yeah
but i've seen people refer to story mode fights with the in game numbers
so saying M3 for M7N (when cw was current)
jade nimbus
people wanted to use another letter when the first tier of DT dropped
fierce matrix
it's less of a problem with savage yeah
but i've seen people refer to story mod...
Ive just also never heard that tbh
Maybe cause im really only around savage players lol
zealous meteor
probably
mossy eagle
This channel needs to have the xkcd comic on experts pinned
Jeez okay just remove all the pixels
"Parsing comes natural to us hardcore raiders, so it's to forget that the average FFXIV player has only completed a few ultimates and only has purple medians."
"And just one or two pinks of course"
"Of course."
worn bluff
that would make sense
stares at "the mothercrystal"
week one of 6.0 someone in my LS typed "does anyone want to queue for hydaelyn fight"
jolly flume
quartz is SiO2
worn bluff
and i spent the rest of MSQ thinking "oh so she is evil after all"
jolly flume
idk why I know that
zealous meteor
xkcd numbers are second nature to us nerds, so it's easy to forget that the average person only knows 2501 and 2071.
- and 2347, of course.
of course.
fierce matrix
"Parsing comes natural to us hardcore raiders, so it's to forget that the averag...
Fuck no the average player cant even kill an ex trial
My expecation for the average ff player is in the shitter
zealous meteor
Fuck no the average player cant even kill an ex trial
that's the point
mossy eagle
It was more meant as a response to "I've never heard anyone call M7 as M3"
worn bluff
"Parsing comes natural to us hardcore raiders, so it's to forget that the averag...
me loading into a random doomtrain and all of us have FRU weapon
mossy eagle
Should probably have written average raider instead of average player
jolly flume
ascension arcadia championship cruiserweight division match 3
worn bluff
more common than EW relic now
fierce matrix
ascension arcadia championship cruiserweight division match 3
Ty I appreciate you
mossy eagle
Joke is a work in progress please hold
fierce matrix
Now I know what boss we are fighting on normal
mossy eagle
Oh that's the one everyone wipes to
mossy eagle
me loading into a random doomtrain and all of us have FRU weapon
Nothing makes me shiver like a FRU weapon or a genesis legend
jolly flume
FRU is the new UWU and I wish I was joking
fierce matrix
Its very important that I must prepare mentally for my normal raids as I myself, a casual player, must work to press my mitigation button at the time a buster appears on me. Please disregard my 50% GCD uptime as I need to focus on pressing this one mitigation button. If you ask for more from me I will get upset and leave, reporting you for harassment as I am playing the game for fun and not optimization. Thank you.
mossy eagle
Okay that's not true
mossy eagle
Its very important that I must prepare mentally for my normal raids as I myself,...
Wait please tell me this is real
mossy eagle
Darn
mossy eagle
FRU is the new UWU and I wish I was joking
Damn maybe I should do FRU
Jk I hate ultimates
jolly flume
you can do better than at least 50% of the people I c41d last month
worn bluff
smh chiyo releasing monsters into PF
mossy eagle
you can do better than at least 50% of the people I c41d last month
I'm sure I could
I just don't want to
zealous meteor
Should probably have written average raider instead of average player
nah
the whole point is that the characters in the comic are comparing themselves to average people, and vastly overestimating how much they know/do
worn bluff
it's not that extreme but some people in rants overestimate average players too. like i think the average player barely knows what a GCD is and doesn't look at any guides (which is fine for casual content)
mossy eagle
are you doing the tier though
Yeah but Omega casual since I can't play as often
clear plume
Doesn’t really work when you use percentages for your meme though, purple median can’t be the average, it’s just something everybody could reasonably get to with effort.
You’d be better off saying something like
mossy eagle
And I also can't raid Tuesdays anymore so reclears will be ass
clear plume
“The average person barely knows their odd minute burst window” as something that’s natural to high end players but casuals go ???
mossy eagle
Hmmm yeah that would land better
fierce matrix
Jk I hate ultimates
Weak mindset
zealous meteor
it's not that extreme but some people in rants overestimate average players too....
ive drilled all my friends on what a gcd and ogcd is
mossy eagle
I mean I guess but why do optional things I don't like?
clear plume
But drill is only a gcd
worn bluff
Doesn’t really work when you use percentages for your meme though, purple median...
i would say the joke works better because of "average = purple" being impossible
mossy eagle
I've tried them
zealous meteor
But drill is only a gcd
kills you
clear plume
i would say the joke works better because of "average = purple" being impossible
Average person knowing quartz isn’t impossible, that’s why the overestimation can exist
fierce matrix
And is your experience in PF or in statics cause I stg
clear plume
Nobody who knows how percentages work will say the average player has a few top percent performances
mossy eagle
And is your experience in PF or in statics cause I stg
Static mostly
mossy eagle
Or if it's in PF, it's me and like 5-6 ooomphies
fierce matrix
So the issue is like...ulti raiding unironically is all about the people you do it with
If you do PF you gotta do it for the love of the game
thin tartan
wait that's good though
Nope he stacked with me on final spread markers
mossy eagle
I mean I don't PF it lol
jade nimbus
My expecation for the average ff player is in the shitter
avarage player can't clear the puzzle section in 7.3
fierce matrix
But ulti raiding in statics is like...you gotta vibe or else its gonna be the worst experience ever lol
clear plume
Who isn’t having fun in top pf 
clear plume
I love looper
fierce matrix
Okay
thin tartan
i love top pf
jolly flume
my static is too far in the opposite direction, we get along too well that we can't stop yapping
fierce matrix
But were they good
jolly flume
and then we do dumb shit
mossy eagle
Yes
mossy eagle
Yeah just not a fan of the length
And speed/mechanics
Not my cup of tea personally
I certainly understand the appeal though
fierce matrix
Matters the fight overall ig. Like UCOB and UWU are soooo fucking slow its nauseating
And uwu is like
At most 3 minutes longer than a 3rd turn
mossy eagle
Ironically UwU is the only one I finished
So it's not beating the allegations
Of being a savage fight
jolly flume
lol
fierce matrix
For me having so much down time is what makes up for ultis being so long
You have so much time in between mechs where you are doing nothing
Or like final phase is basically a fight in it of itself
jolly flume
I just like doing big cool mechanics 
mossy eagle
My brain just processes too slow
fierce matrix
I think like 2 minutes of FRUs runtime is literally just dead air of doing nothing
If not more
mossy eagle
Even after several clears UwU felt too fast for me
mossy eagle
That's why I prefer savage
fierce matrix
Scissor sisters gtfo
worn bluff
i feel like savages are the ones where you're standing there doing nothing a lot
jolly flume
ryne, are you alright?!
worn bluff
there's a long cast bar between every mech
fierce matrix
That's why I prefer savage
Me when p8s is more complicated than TEA
fierce matrix
PAST PRESENT FUTURE...INFINITE POSSIBILTIES CONDENSED INTO IN A SINGLE MOMENT
worn bluff
KOKO NI
fierce matrix
I know that one
mossy eagle
Crystalize Time should have been called Relativity Rampant, change my mind
fierce matrix
My DNC during prog said "Infinite wipes condensed into a single moment"
And we lost it
jolly flume
Her awakening is incomplete...their memories weaken the link.
Such impediments to our resonance must be expunged!
mossy eagle
Me when p8s is more complicated than TEA
TEA is the only one I haven't done but UwU felt harder tbh
fierce matrix
UWU harder than p8s???
worn bluff
you'd better not, or we'll never let you hear the end of it!
mossy eagle
UWU harder than p8s???
Yeah
mossy eagle
Yeah
mossy eagle
Both
tawdry delta
tea is boring as fuck on tank
Spin crusher is by far the hardest tank mechanic in tea
fierce matrix
OT UWU is probably one of the easiest things to do completion wise at high end in this game since like
Fuck
Maybe Eden?
tawdry delta
Ask our pld who died to it 10+ times
mossy eagle
I've yet to do a savage fight that felt harder than UWU, but I know that's a hot take
mossy eagle
Speed mostly
jolly flume
depends how you weigh difficulty of mechanics against length I guess
fierce matrix
You dont do supp
daring pine
hi chiyo
mossy eagle
Savage gives my brain like 5 years to reset
daring pine
eats u
fierce matrix
Id say the speed of m8s is 100x faster than uwu
mossy eagle
Huh, definitely did not feel that way to me
jolly flume
uwu's first 3 phases really is just 30 normal mode mechanics thrown at you b2b minus gaols
fierce matrix
Huh, definitely did not feel that way to me
I mean its not even a feeling way it just factually has so much more to do. Maybe you are overthinking things cause ultimate in the title?
mossy eagle
Idk did M8S really have that much going on?
alpine plover
No i also felt like p8s is slow af compared to uwu
mossy eagle
I suppose you could timeline everything
alpine plover
Gotta dodge feather rains and stuff every milisecond
mossy eagle
Bane of my existence
fierce matrix
Knockback into moving clockwise/counterclockwise and resolving spreadsinto resolving towers and another KB into a stack with heavy mit into a TB all in the span of like 1:10s
Actually think its less
alpine plover
Uwu is faster but definitely more automatic
Because yea you always do the same thing
jolly flume
No i also felt like p8s is slow af compared to uwu
p2 is because p2 is ass (sue me)
alpine plover
jolly flume
I like p1 a lot tho because it doesn't suffer from that as much
fierce matrix
Id say m8s def was a lot faster than uwu
worn bluff
i feel like with savages each mechanic usually has raidwide + 1 or 2 resolutions of something
terse zodiac
P8s p1 isnt that fast either
worn bluff
whereas ultimates tend to have more things in sequence
daring pine
m8s felt fast to me
jolly flume
idk I've always felt like ultimates give you more time to breathe
mossy eagle
Yeah savage may have individually fast sequences but you get eons to breathe
fierce matrix
Especially when you have mechs like fucking suppression as a tank where you literally stand still press mit then dodge normal mode cleaves or predation where you run out stand still let thing resolve
jolly flume
big mechanic 30s of whacking boss where all it does is auto
worn bluff
between phases yeah, just within an individual mechanic there are usually more things happening in a row
fierce matrix
Yeah savage may have individually fast sequences but you get eons to breathe
You get eons to breath in uwu too lol
alpine plover
Maybe it just depends after all on fight idk
jolly flume
but like fru every mechanic kinda has forever between them
worn bluff
it depends since like in FRU there are things that could be counted as a savage level mechanic (like mirrors)
but like crystallize time is a good example of something you'd probably not see in savage
jolly flume
the mechanics are individually harder of course but there's still so much nothing happening
alpine plover
M8s felt more suffocating than fast to me but frankly it's more because of the arena
mossy eagle
Vs. UWU where it's buster -> drag boss, feathers, feather rain, a bunch of shit I'm forgetting, then Ifrit, another buster drag for nails, kill nails, then into titan, etc.
daring pine
M8s felt more suffocating than fast to me but frankly it's more because of the a...
lol i hit the wall a couple times during decay
as caster
fierce matrix
but like fru every mechanic kinda has forever between them
Me when i have to hit my mandatory 1 min 20s burst after resolving a mechanic and it being downtime
jolly flume
I think this is just a terminology difference where I consider multiple mechanics back to back one mechanic
alpine plover
lol i hit the wall a couple times during decay
Me when i wall revolutionary trying to properly allign and everyone explodes
"Mb"
mossy eagle
I guess you get a little breather in ultimates during phase transitions, but it's never felt to me as generous as the generally slow speed of savage
fierce matrix
Vs. UWU where it's buster -> drag boss, feathers, feather rain, a bunch of shit ...
Buster which you dont do unless your OT, drag to E, dodge the slipstream as a MT or get spiny. Stand still for 20s and then run mid afterwards
daring pine
Me when i wall revolutionary trying to properly allign and everyone explodes
"Mb...
many such cases
always a tank
worn bluff
I think this is just a terminology difference where I consider multiple mechanic...
i think that goes back to what i said with savage mechanics typically having 1 or 2 resolutions of "did you do it right" vs ultimate mechanics having more
jolly flume
even within a phase it's like
trio
go afk for 30s
trio
or replace trio with uptime mechanic really
fierce matrix
And tbf, UWU IS a big exception tbh
fierce matrix
But yeah like chiyo said
alpine plover
fierce matrix
In ulti you get so much downtime I go to sleep
terse zodiac
Setup to savage mechanics usually gives you like 30s to think about where to go, ultimates resolve faster
jolly flume
do they
terse zodiac
Generally, not always
fierce matrix
The setup for M8S is about the same as the setup time in fru
And even in TOP
The amount of time you have to setup in TOPs mechs is insane
worn bluff
i look at it as time between hits of a mechanic
alpine plover
Sigma still the most impossible content in the game.
If i dont have the macro i will wipe
jolly flume
ngl I've never once felt like anything in ultimate short of extreme outliers like party synergy is any significantly faster than like pangenesis or something
alpine plover
fierce matrix
Before delta you can run around the fucking arena
terse zodiac
TOP does give you a lot of time but theyre more complex
daring pine
speaking of 8s
jolly flume
it's like noble says all the time, if he has time to meditate 3 stacks during a mechanic there is no planet on which you can call it "resolving fast"
fierce matrix
People kill themsleves because of how long it takes
daring pine
moonlight immediately into stonefang was rough
fierce matrix
Like TEA, the amount of time you wait for chakrams in Wormhole is like 10s
daring pine
windfang save me
fierce matrix
People press KB too early cause it takes so long
Or inception you literally stand there for an hour waiting for shit to resolve
alpine plover
moonlight immediately into stonefang was rough
Hardest part of m8s for me too lmao
jolly flume
even if a picto can paint a motif in the mechanic you can hardly call it fast, that's five seconds of standing still not doing the mechanic imo
worn bluff
i don't mean the start of a mechanic though, i just mean when the mechanic starts there are multiple hits a few seconds between each other. the # of hits/resolutions is just typically higher in an ultimate
fierce matrix
DSR meteor setup takes 9 years even after you do the knight LPs
jolly flume
yeah the complexity is naturally higher but I don't think it's that much faster with certain exceptions is all
mossy eagle
ngl I've never once felt like anything in ultimate short of extreme outliers lik...
Pangenesis isn't even a mechanic
Ain't no way
daring pine
Hardest part of m8s for me too lmao
hardest part of p1 is party not exploding to stone/windfang after moonlight
trust
alpine plover
The funniest thing in fru was when my picto was painting and people thought that his spot is safe in p1
"Mb"
fierce matrix
Id say something like chain reaction 2 is just as intensive as some of these ulti mechs
Speed wise
alpine plover
worn bluff
yeah the *complexity* is naturally higher but I don't think it's that much faste...
i would agree - that's why i always try to tell my friends that only do savage that easier ultimates like FRU/TEA aren't really that bad
mossy eagle
Which boss was chain reaction?
fierce matrix
P12s p1
terse zodiac
P12s
fierce matrix
Last mech
jolly flume
i would agree - that's why i always try to tell my friends that only do savage t...
yeah pretty much
fierce matrix
You normally skipped it like week 4+
worn bluff
they're like "no way in hell i would ever do an ultimate" but i'm like... half the mechanics are basically savage mechanics
mossy eagle
I only remember Super chain lol
terse zodiac
Chain 2 has like 30 seconds where you stand still reading the mechanic
terse zodiac
Thats what im getting at, i feel theyre slow personally
fierce matrix
Chain 2 has like 30 seconds where you stand still reading the mechanic
Yeah, like ulti lol
mossy eagle
Yeah super chain is omega free
jolly flume
you also stand there for forever during run omega waiting for clone telegraphs to happen
fierce matrix
Like 30s
worn bluff
superchain 1 was fun since it was during burst
jolly flume
same with doth
fierce matrix
you also stand there for forever during run omega waiting for clone telegraphs t...
Me when doth is fucking forever in between
jolly flume
or sanctity
terse zodiac
Does depend on the mechanic ofc but many resolve a lot faster
jolly flume
that is not fast
worn bluff
i want more mechanics during burst
loud nymph
superchain 1 was fun since it was during burst
I really enjoyed superchain 1
fierce matrix
Id say a majority dont
jolly flume
yeah that's what I'm getting at
worn bluff
i don't like when they give you a mechanic and then reward you with a 2 min burst standing still
after
jolly flume
there are exceptions but most of them are pretty far from blindingly fast or whatever
fierce matrix
Even like P6 DSR like you have SOOO long to get to your spots
People get too anxious and leave their spots early
If anything ulti is too slow for me and the speed of revo in M8S really made me happy
alpine plover
Meteors in sanctity do take forever because i can ress whoever died to the previous orbs in their correct spot and still get to my spot
fierce matrix
Yeah lol
jolly flume
I wouldn't say ulti is too slow in general but trio phases are pretty sleepy
the uptime ones vary
daring pine
If anything ulti is too slow for me and the speed of revo in M8S really made me ...
i liked m8s speed overall
felt nice
fierce matrix
The thing is if you are doing an ulti mech you have so much time to actually figure out what you are doing
jolly flume
this game needs more dive from grace
fierce matrix
Say like P3 DSR
alpine plover
Theoretically speaking dive from grace is also slow
jolly flume
idk how they peaked so hard
alpine plover
But the rhythm is completely different
fierce matrix
Sure it moves faster technically
alpine plover
So it throws you off
fierce matrix
But you have like sooo long to figure out what you are doing and where you are going
jolly flume
dive from grace and sc1 are legit my two favorite mechanics in the game
fierce matrix
Okay but hear me out
terse zodiac
Why sc1
jolly flume
except maybe terminal relativity I just like healing
fierce matrix
Light rampant from fru
jolly flume
ok buddy
fierce matrix
Lmao
terse zodiac
Sc 1 is okay but its kinda sleep
worn bluff
superchain 1?
alpine plover
I will get shot for this but i actually love UR 
. Idk seeing all debuffs resolve in sequence feels pretty awesome lmao even if it is an easy mech
jolly flume
constant movement based mechanic with debuff resolutions during it
odd beacon
any gnb nerds
jolly flume
idk i think it's pretty neat
fierce matrix
Yes
odd beacon
am i microclipping or am i tripping
fierce matrix
I am a nerd who mains gnb
odd beacon
i keep dropping combo literally barely
odd beacon
burst
worn bluff
are you doing gnashing opti?
odd beacon
ya
worn bluff
you have to be combo neutral
jolly flume
you need to go in combo neutral
odd beacon
oh
odd beacon
righto
fierce matrix
Your opener is 1-2 but afterwards you have to be neutral
odd beacon
they just need to add like half a second to combo timer..
worn bluff
i'm just playing GNB like before with HV NM because i'm a casual tourist
fierce matrix
Its 30s which I think is fine
jolly flume
i'm just playing GNB like before with HV NM because i'm a casual tourist
how dare you lose 21ppm
fierce matrix
They just fucked up my class imo 
jolly flume
I miss funbreaker...
terse zodiac
Cant wait for superchain natural alignment next patch bc theyre only doing raid ultimates
worn bluff
how dare you lose 21ppm
it's so over 
jolly flume
I actually dunno what I want to alt job in .5 ultimate now
bc none of the tanks interest me that much anymore
fierce matrix
WHM
remote gate
I tried playing it in TEA
is double gnashing fang in NM something you do a lot in TEA now
jolly flume
farming the downtime lilies
fierce matrix
is double gnashing fang in NM something you do a lot in TEA now
Yes lol
remote gate
lovely this is totally not gonna ruin my gcd mapping for tea
fierce matrix
Its so fucking odd
worn bluff
isn't double gnashing in lower levels less thinking anyways? since you don't really need to think about gauge
worn bluff
yeah
remote gate
yes and no because it makes gnb just play worse at 80
fierce matrix
at 80 you have to do 2 gnashing combos in nm
Bro at 70 you have to do it
remote gate
extreme content
jolly flume
i've been thinking about finishing my cob totems lately
think I need an intervention
remote gate
!action intervention
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remote gate
like this???
worn bluff
i mean doing lionheart instead of the 2nd gnashing isn't that much different, but at least it looks cool
jolly flume
I like the gf combo anims more 🥀
worn bluff
eye gouge is pretty sick
jolly flume
lionheart is so floaty
worn bluff
i think all of the lionheart anims are based on squall FF8 moves
fierce matrix
i've been thinking about finishing my cob totems lately
Honestly I have been too
I went into an adds party yesterday
jolly flume
biscuit would call that nostalgiaslop
remote gate
making lionheart a sixty second attack makes it lose so much aura
fierce matrix
I just want all my totems to be done with it
boreal pumice
didnt you delete some dsr earlier
fierce matrix
The worst part is that they did the whole fucking samurai thing to GNB
remote gate
1/1/52/43/38/30
can you spare a few of those tea totems
jolly flume
sure
fierce matrix
Ishikoten + removal of kaiten and nerfing Kenki cost of the 2 min OGCD made it so gauge management doesnt exist
remote gate
thank you ive seen bjcc that's basically a clear
fierce matrix
Now with new GNB it doesnt matter your carts you go into your 1 min you have full burst no matter what
worn bluff
The worst part is that they did the whole fucking samurai thing to GNB
you mean making me count GCDs in filler
i hate counting
jolly flume
you guys can count?
fierce matrix
Who tf is counting gcds in filler
worn bluff
idk i'm not doing the opti
fierce matrix
Even without opti you dont
sinful brook
i can't count past 4
jolly flume
theres actually a neat way to align higanbana
worn bluff
idk the guide was like "double the number of carts you have going out of NM"
jolly flume
you just don't start any new sen combos below 15s on the dot timer
skip them with meikyo
fierce matrix
idk the guide was like "double the number of carts you have going out of NM"
What
worn bluff
they're asking me to count to 4 and i can't do that
jolly flume
and you'll always be +/- 1 gcd on target
fierce matrix
What tf are you reading
worn bluff
the balance guide
fierce matrix
Just play like you used to with your 2 min on every 1 min now
And then press a gnashing fang right after your opener burst
jolly flume
oh thats if you wanna go in combo neutral for gf continuation smuggle
but thats pointless opti
jolly flume
ICANT
worn bluff
What tf are you reading
it's this thing
To determine the number of :burst: Burst Strikes to cast within filler to ensure no combo is active when beginning :gf: Gnashing Fang:
Take the number of cartridges within the powder gauge after :nm: No Mercy ends.
If the number is zero, the required number of :burst: Burst Strikes is one.
If the number if nonzero, double that number.
The calculated number is the number of expected :burst: Burst Strikes within full uptime to ensure no combo is active.
worn bluff
Just play like you used to with your 2 min on every 1 min now
yeah that's what i'm doing instead
jolly flume
I was splitting the stack to make some inventory grid art
and I hit discard instead
oopsies
fierce matrix
it's this thing
> To determine the number of :burst: Burst Strikes to cast with...
Thats combo neutral which doesnt matter if you arent doing gf opti
worn bluff
yeah i was talking about GF opti
jolly flume
21 potency gain over hypervelocity entry
worn bluff
i just meant that i don't feel like counting so i'm just doing old GNB
fierce matrix
idk i'm not doing the opti
you said this tho
jolly flume
technically I don't even need too I've had all the weapons for ages
but I like watching my totem number go up
fierce matrix
But I still stay neutral
worn bluff
you said this tho <:happymealcatto:1124461084758257804>
being asked to count is the reason because i'm not doing it
if that makes sense
fierce matrix
You dont really need to count tbh
Just think of it like this
You end your combo before NM
Then burst strike till it comes up
zealous meteor
idk, if i was good enough to have cleared DSR that much in the first place, i'd probably just redo the fight 18 times rather than use my only item recovery on something i can "easily" farm
jolly flume
what else would I need to item recover
fierce matrix
what else would I need to item recover
Your bitches
worn bluff
yeah i get it, it's just more i'm a casual and don't really feel like lining up for combo neutral with potential downtime/disengage
jolly flume
like if anything everything else in the game is multiple times easier to get back than sitting in pf waiting for a dsr party to fill
fierce matrix
Oh wait you never had them
loud nymph
what else would I need to item recover
deez nuts
fierce matrix
Please
zealous meteor
what else would I need to item recover
paid items maybe
worn bluff
Then burst strike till it comes up
i guess you could just hold your carts towards the end of filler so you have more time to get to combo neutral. easier than counting
worn bluff
maybe i'll try it
fierce matrix
It literally does not matter where you put them in anyway
You arent getting them in buffs
jolly flume
yeah that actually works p well
just hit your last solid barrel up to 9s before buffs then start burst striking
fierce matrix
As long as you BF before your NM you have enough so you vibe
You only really need one cart to go into a GF opti
The rest is covered by BF
golden jewel
do yall just grind duties to tome cap or is there a method to the maddness
thin fox
shes literally insane
wicked delta
I just do my dailies
wicked delta
Lol
wicked delta
shes literally insane
I dont think ive ever missed a week where I dont cap my tomes
It just happens
sly basin
golden jewel
im still leveling off classes, so I've been doing dailies to level them and get poetics to finish mandervilles lol
jolly flume
WAHOOOOOOOOOO
worn bluff
RIP my mistwake
golden jewel
lavish mortar
DDOS O CLOCK
worn bluff
off to the tome cap mines we go
i blame you for this chiyo. if i didn't see this i wouldn't have even logged on to queue 
boreal pumice
WAHOOOOOOOOOO
random needle
I better work on getting mine capped too... once I'm back in
random needle
Okay, I'm probably not capping them, but I'm at least doing my rouls for some
loud nymph
rip
boreal pumice
i cap mine quite early doing oc ce , pt , alittle bit of ptod , ex7 farming
zealous meteor
you see, i like having fun, so neither OC or PotD are an option /s
random needle
I might start doing more OC again honestly, now that I don't feel like I need to optimize atma gains
... still pretty deranged of them to not allow the wells to fill at all by doing OC stuff though
jolly flume
welp
boreal pumice
... still pretty deranged of them to not allow the wells to fill at all by doing...
thats what we said
chiyo using the forbidden magic
tawdry delta
Does exitlag actually work on the ddosing?
jolly flume
on the correct servers yes
tawdry delta
on the correct servers yes
Which are?
jolly flume
NY01 and LA01
tawdry delta
Ty
clear plume
My league friend got an exitlag affiliate code today so I might bite the bullet and get it before prog I guess
jolly flume
doesn't even seem to increase my ping by any relevant amount which is nice
went up by 4
my friend in canada said she went from like 120 to 160 because warp routed her through US east coast
clear plume
Cloudflare warps big downside is it sometimes throttles you download wise but yeah I haven’t noticed ping issues with it that’s unreadable for a free app
Nothing blatant
But I’m west side Canada so
jagged aspen
i am not capping my tomes on tuesday
next week you are
jagged aspen
NY01 seems to help ping noticeably for me, almost feels like im on eu
zealous meteor
next week you are
well yeah
dull drum
zealous meteor
but not today
sinful brook
i've been running cloudflare warp for the last week or so
ping is up like 25ms
but it seems stable enough
rapid whale
realistically idt every job has to cap their tomes like some prob only need to get like 250 to buy w/e they can for that week
mossy eagle
WARP has been working decently enough for me
low hearth
Yo
rapid whale
ye
craggy marsh
you see other people dripped the fuck out and you get envious
Honestly I never understood why people feel this way
I've been f2p and i'm dripped out
nightwave has some banger cosmetics
and the new event gives you a jade light ephemera which is PURE drip
all for free
jaunty pulsar
is it just me or there's less trains lately? It's 22 on CET (Europe) and there was one on light and one on chaos in the evening
Like I remember there were trains left and right on reset earlier in dawntrail
nothing an expert can't fix, I'm just curious
well one popped right now but it doesn't change my doubt, there's less than usual
visual geyser
Holiday season
jagged aspen
why doesnt /ac "Intervention" <2> work in dungeons
trim frost
why doesnt `/ac "Intervention" <2>` work in dungeons
is your macro spamming that line or are you just doing it once
jagged aspen
its spamming but it doesnt seem to work at all idk
i would expect it to mit the healer
jagged aspen
oh nvm im stupid i moved it to a different bind 😄
rapid whale
Lol
jagged aspen
and G is back to normal intervention that requires a target
dull drum
and the new event gives you a jade light ephemera which is PURE drip
ive seen some perita rebellion afkers 
descendias goated though
craggy marsh
ive seen some perita rebellion afkers <a:Smoge:841395003762933812>
Smh
thin fox
@dull drum @jolly flume come look at ts
idk why I censored my own name but I'm the viper :3
rapid whale
ypyt in normal raid is crazy
wicked delta
thin fox
worn bluff
maybe they wouldn't have aggro stolen from them if they pressed buttons
thin fox
think the main reason they were getting aggro stolen was because the other tank had 30k more hp
worn bluff
i mean that happens sometimes but nothing to get offended over
"i'm gonna throw because you have more gear than me"
craggy marsh
massive MC syndrome from that GNB
rapid whale
my heal kitten put kardia on ME
worn bluff
i try to shirk or turn stance off when i notice it but it's a roulette no one's gonna die from it