#endgame-lounge

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jolly flume
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but it's not like you have a better choice it seems

worn bluff
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just barely

zealous meteor
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i gave up on using overlays tbh neofox_woozy

jolly flume
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you can 40 the first tankbuster and have it up again for the debuff on the second one but trying to 40 both busters is like

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gl

zealous meteor
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annoying as shit to set up on linux

boreal pumice
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could be worse it could need constant update then someone make somthing to stop the updates then put malware in it out of spites

jolly flume
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not that kind of update

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the rate at which it displays new data is slow af

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honestly idk if that's even the plugin or if it's the shitty browsingway overlay that you have to use but either way it annoys me

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  • the fflogs uploader overlay is kinda bis anyway
dreamy whale
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Yea maybe I’ll just let someone else use the overlay

undone tide
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for crafter class quests is there any reason to go past level 65

worn bluff
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apparently it's up just barely in time if you 40% right after the 1st powder mark

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catching just the burn marks as OT. not the actual powder mark

zealous meteor
jolly flume
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yeah they're 1:45 apart lol

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so like

worn bluff
jolly flume
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15s mit

worn bluff
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those timings are kind of fun to me

jolly flume
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the debuff only does like 300k either way though so as long as you're not damn near naked for it you'll be fine

worn bluff
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even if there's no meaningful benefit to the extra mit, it's just fun to pull it off

jolly flume
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I mean

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yea

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I kinda like that

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gnb has it kinda easy bc ramp camo are both 20s

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so you can live the debuff with nothing but carryover from the buster

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is nice

worn bluff
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or if you have a PLD cotank

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nonstop short mits

jolly flume
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just dont play warriorTM

worn bluff
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oop i forgot to short mit the WAR for burn mark

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he's dead

jolly flume
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gnb has camo, pld has 2 short mits, drk can tbn both the buster and the debuff, war can...die

quick verge
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swap fatebreaker and pandora

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how many warriors clear fru

zealous meteor
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well the lv70 quest gives almost 3 mil xp

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so if you aren't maxed yet then why not

jolly flume
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cluegi

zealous meteor
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but yeah no new skills

undone tide
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i think i might level carpenter solely through collectables

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cuz i need scrips

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because stupid ahh crafts being locked behind books

low hearth
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ngl i bought all them crafts

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grinding ts out is too much

worn bluff
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i leveled FSH to like 90 just through buying stuff for leve turn ins

undone tide
dreamy whale
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I CAN DOUBLEWEAVE

worn bluff
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that's illegal

dreamy whale
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Technically yes

dull drum
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wow

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people really suck at this game

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crazy i know

undone tide
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i suck at this game

worn bluff
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mb

dull drum
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but people cant do DD2?

rain geode
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I cant... yet.

dull drum
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i literally havent done this fight in months and i do better than recent clearees its fucking crazy man

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how am i getting high aggro on bard

thin tartan
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wtf is dd2

dull drum
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you know that part in phase 3 where theres 4 tethers

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and then you either get that corner pattern or the chill side by side pattern

deep gale
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no one has ever been able to do that mechanic I'm afraid

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😔

undone tide
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i just had the greatest crit/dh luck ive ever seen

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and we wipe because war goes wrong side in mm2

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doesn’t even try to fix it

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no dawg

jolly flume
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having good crit massively increases the chances of you wiping

undone tide
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this is true

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but man

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the dopamine rush

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when i see 250k starcross

jolly flume
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my last two fru kills had 20-30th percentile crit gladge

undone tide
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like

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mmmmmmmmmmm

jolly flume
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I miss seeing big numbers

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maybe I'll play slow astro next tier just so I can see oracle crit dh again

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it was already over 100k in ex2 so surely it'll be close to 200k in bis soon

undone tide
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just give urself both cards

dreamy whale
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Yk i have all this space here lowk I might download iinact

dull drum
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the lion does not fail lionheart crits

sly basin
jolly flume
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🥀

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no crit?

worn bluff
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i think i might be blind

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i only just noticed now that darkside has a visual effect on DRK

jolly flume
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that's news to me

undone tide
low hearth
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damn

worn bluff
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it's super faint

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the little red glows

undone tide
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these crafter quests are so fucking ass

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hey we’re sending you to the middle of nowhere in coerthas west AGAIN

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preparatory touch and groundwork make crafting braindead

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the more time i spend in 2.0 cities the more i think they should get a visual upgrade

torn kindle
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They should merge the halves back together

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I’m sure we have the technology

thin tartan
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Halv..bwait

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Back?

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Wdym back

worn bluff
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like... a rejoining?

amber fable
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No load screens

jolly flume
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wouldn't that be nice

worn bluff
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also add proximity voice chat everywhere

jolly flume
remote gate
torn kindle
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JOHN MADDEN

worn bluff
craggy marsh
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CLANG CLANG CLANG

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CLANG CLANG CLANG

jolly flume
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xd

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he also made uh

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the league ping system

remote gate
jolly flume
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in xiv

remote gate
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THAT LALAFELL TANK DIDNT STAND A CHANCE

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AND THAT'S THE WIPE SOMEONE TOUCHED TWO NISIS BY ACCIDENT GIVE IT UP FOR BRUUTTTTEEE JUSSSSTTTIIICCCEEE

craggy marsh
remote gate
worn bluff
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O1N is such a weird fight

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it's incredibly boring but then just has random mini TBs on the MT throughout the fight that i wish other normal content had

torn kindle
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The savage fight was so easy it was cleared on the first pull for the world first race

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Insane that SE really made a savage fight with literally zero new mechanics. Just shuffled stuff around and did more damage

brisk scarab
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Or am I misunderstanding mewpaissa

torn kindle
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Basically the same meaning

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They got into the instance for the first time, pulled, and cleared on that pull

lyric summit
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release me Oldge

jolly flume
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who didn't mit

lyric summit
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just death on 2nd exaline

rapid whale
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mb

zealous meteor
torn kindle
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Should’ve done more element mixing like ice/thunder balls, fire/ice tethers, and fire/thunder floors that do different things

lyric summit
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its ok because o3s o4s they cooked

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they just wanted people to get to the good stuff faster

torn kindle
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O1S left died in a ditch so they could run

zealous meteor
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honestly the O1 and O2 bosses are so fucking forgettable

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i remember O1 slightly better because he's super quick to kill unsynced

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but O2? which one is that again

torn kindle
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The guy they turned into a generic overworld mob in Ultima Thule

sick dirge
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the cyclops thing

zealous meteor
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oh yeah the eye

random needle
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I only remember o2n because the gravity gimmick is... weirdge

sick dirge
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yeah o2 is really forgettable

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i havent gone it a single time in rolos in maybe months

lyric summit
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just dont put it on a duty action lmao

random needle
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Honestly I kinda miss duty actions sometimes

trim frost
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i miss duty actions so bad they were so fun

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o2s is fun i enjoy

dreamy whale
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I dont see the point of pixel perfect, your hitbox like a tiny dot in the middle of your circle

loud nymph
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that's the point

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to show you exactly where your hitbox is

dreamy whale
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NONONONONO smh greeders

zealous meteor
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if you want to know exactly where your hitbox is just play lalafell

sly basin
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play lalafell and its easy to mentally percieve without the plogon

dreamy whale
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Truth nuke

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I just perceive my hitbox by getting clipped

worn bluff
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just draw a dot on your monitor with a sharpie

rapid whale
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the no scope awp tech

wicked delta
sleek moon
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Fist of the daddy

wicked delta
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fist of the manipulator

wicked delta
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neeeevermind

sick dirge
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circus tower

rapid whale
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they should make mentor roulette content mine

jolly flume
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oh fuck its 830

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I need to shower before raid

zealous meteor
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yeah don't be like alphinaud

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alisaie would've been drying her hair by now

jolly flume
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my hair does not simply dry

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🥀

sinful brook
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It's not a necessity but it's helpful

versed kayak
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I don't personally use it but some jobs are also god awful if you need to know where you are at the wrong time
Bards Empyreal Arrow when you jump in the Air
Ninja with Dream within a Dream
Monk iirc also has some where you step fuck knows where away from your hitbox, etc.

jolly flume
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dark knight at all times

versed kayak
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Doing E8S as Bard and I have to use empyreal arrow right as a mechanic needs me to be super close to the edge, I'm basically gambling on where I'm standing half the time

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camera wiggle sometimes helps a tad but still

jolly flume
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I walled myself on mirror mirror once because I decided to press bloodspiller while edging the wall

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bad time to do a cartwheel

versed kayak
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yeah lol

random needle
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Which mirror mirror neofox_omg_googly

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There are like 12 different versions of it

versed kayak
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probably one in fru

random needle
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Yeah most likely

Probably that one that also has the proteans? I think the tanks make out with the wall there

versed kayak
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no clue about fru mechs, staying blind on it

dreamy whale
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I have the most stupid plugin ever but its my favorite one

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All it does is add “nice” to the end of a damage number if it ends with 69

worn bluff
wicked delta
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dark knight spreading their legs to the world made me fuck up p10s wicked step so much

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xffing

rapid whale
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uhm what

tall field
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M10s surely

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mewpaissa wicked step clone

jolly flume
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anotha one

trim frost
jolly flume
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i am

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but I opened pf and saw a 7/8 so I was like

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fuck it

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I overkill all the ultimates anyways for fun

rapid whale
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chat what if m12s is a door boss AND it has a 2 phase on 2nd boss

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have they ever done that

worn bluff
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i still hate that they call it enter the dragon

true beacon
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I mean the only door bosses are E12S, P4S, P8S, and P12S, right?

amber fable
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2nd boss usually dont have multiple phases like that

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Well..maybe something like phoenix buff

amber fable
pale blade
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DSR has a door boss

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if I’m not mistaken

true beacon
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True

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But that’s only because of the LB reset

pale blade
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I guess, but no matter how you slice it the Vault knights are the door boss by definition

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Also I have learned of the existence of a plugin that specifically voidlists Weeaboo Police

worn bluff
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nice

undone tide
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god the stormblood crafter quests are SO much more convenient

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like why didn’t we do this sooner

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you don’t need to buy shit they just give you what you need

worn bluff
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yeah those are nice

dull drum
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i gotta grind cosmic data for every crafter class????

trim frost
dull drum
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i mean i have to get the relic for each of them no

true beacon
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no

trim frost
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unless you plan on using every relic no

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if you mean for the relic data bonus it caps out at 5 tools

dull drum
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i am NOT pentamelding tools for every class you're out of your mind

undone tide
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i can’t lie i’m actually having a little fun with crafter quests

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i don’t have money to just buy every item so i have to craft them myself and searching for every material is neat

dapper zealot
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teamcraft is your friend

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and raphael

torn kindle
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And if you’re doing high-tier melds you don’t want cosmic until the final planet in 7.5x comes out

dapper zealot
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If you're not melding your crafter tools, it's also nice for the credit bonus

amber fable
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Nobody who has common sense overmeld tools

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Or has too much excess materia to meld

dapper zealot
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I just did 3 melds on my gatherer tools cause the extra stats are nice for collectibles

torn kindle
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I’d only overmeld gatherers if I had to

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Since its 5 tools versus 16

dapper zealot
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Nah there's only 4, the 5th doesnt exist :)

torn kindle
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Gotta min-max your rod for big fish

dapper zealot
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What's a fish? Never heard of that

torn kindle
dapper zealot
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I still have everseekers on mine, haven't bothered upgrading

dull drum
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ok good news is

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i can run bg3 and ffxiv at the same time

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so i can just let it craft in the background

undone tide
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man drg is so fun

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this job rocks

rapid whale
dull drum
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i mean i have that setting where ffxiv reduces fps when inactive

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so i just tab back in whenever i need to recraft

dapper zealot
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I put yt on while I mindlessly grinded

visual sable
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glad I sticked to it past what felt the boring part to me

rain geode
trim frost
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my pc blows up trying to run anything graphically demanding on top of xiv

amber fable
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Xiv is more cpu eating

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Assuming how old your processor is

craggy marsh
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Fattening up my XIV

dull drum
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my cpu is pretty old

craggy marsh
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Thanksgiving right around the corner so eat up little XIV

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Grow big and fat

dull drum
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5800x3d still gets the job done but hey its am4 and ancient compared to todays stuff

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i would upgrade but that would mean having to upgrade this mobo too

amber fable
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Better than sporting a 13th gen i9

undone tide
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SAVAGE BABY

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who’s ready for HEAVYWEIGHT

craggy marsh
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Tag me in coach

undone tide
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nope

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ur benched

craggy marsh
undone tide
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light heavyweight was like

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ok square you’re doing something

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cruiserweight was like

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holy shit this is good

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surely heavyweight is amazing

craggy marsh
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I have no doubt heavyweight will be goated

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But you'll have people crying about "B-but it'll be easy bc 4 weeks of tomes.."

undone tide
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i do wonder if they’ll actually balance around that

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i’m just surprised they’re delaying it that long

craggy marsh
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Well it was either release it on the same day as the patch or wait till after the holidays

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Holiday raiding sucks and rip bozo to the babies who are mad about "Being bored" for Christmas

undone tide
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the median eorzean voter couldn’t handle savage releasing at the same time as the patch

pale blade
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But also I put together an AM4 build with a 9070 XT in it as a Linux box

pale blade
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But also: who give a shit

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I think these people would rather destroy their relationships by doing Savage over Christmas too

undone tide
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bold of you to assume they were doing anything on christmas anyway

pale blade
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damn u rite

undone tide
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any expert rouletters

jade nimbus
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The only fair concern is that the fights will not be tuned around 3 weeks of tomes

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So dps checks will be easier

amber fable
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Easier pf

jade nimbus
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But it is what it is

amber fable
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Good

pale blade
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yarp

jade nimbus
pale blade
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as long as the fights are well-designed and fun I'm good with it

amber fable
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Later pf is uber dogshit

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Early pf is decent

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In comparison

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Decent I say..but its pain nonetheless

pale blade
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I wonder how that Reaper main is doing

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probably still hasn't gotten past M6S

amber fable
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Gotta get ahead of the curve

jade nimbus
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Body checks be upon thee

valid solar
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do gaatherers have a skill like aetherial manipulation where you need to fiinish the job quests to get it ?

worldly grotto
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Not off the top of my head

loud nymph
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they have GP renegeration passives

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one of which is from the level 70 job quest iirc

visual geyser
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I don’t have it on any of gatherers realized

sly basin
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i havent done any of the doh/dol job quests but i think i should namazuconcern

loud nymph
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meh

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manipulation used to be goated

torn mesa
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once you get the higher level trait

loud nymph
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it's kinda not as much now

torn mesa
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does it not just overwrite it

loud nymph
torn mesa
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oh yeah you're right

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I just checked the tooltip, it's different from what I remembered

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I could've sworn it used to say: "increase GP generate rate to x"

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instead of by one

sick dirge
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oh duty finder please give me more healers that actively encourage you to stand in The Stupid

dapper zealot
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Stand in the orange so I have something to do

loud nymph
undone tide
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implying pressing broil is a thing to do

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the only interesting thing about broiling is that its essentially a socially acceptable version of gambling

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the only joy to be derived from it is based on luck, whether you crit or not

dapper zealot
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Mb I glare

wicked delta
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Any cute scholar players in chat

alpine plover
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not cute but me

zealous meteor
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do lalas count

undone tide
loud nymph
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jealous of tall

zealous meteor
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i'll bonk them all

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i love how scholar bonks do more damage than red mage autos

remote gate
wicked delta
wicked delta
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Stop being mean to urselves ur all cute fr

zealous meteor
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you've never seen me

alpine plover
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this feels like the longest pvp series ever ngl

undone tide
wicked delta
zealous meteor
dreamy whale
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7 more levels until 60

alpine plover
dreamy whale
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When do I use form shift

zealous meteor
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if you like modern glams it's good

zealous meteor
dreamy whale
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Oh ok so its the same as meditation

boreal pumice
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b4 the pull moomoo

zealous meteor
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so you're always getting the form bonus from one of your attacks

alpine plover
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only prepull and downtime

dreamy whale
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Ok ty

zealous meteor
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oh yeah and prepull too

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for the same reason

dreamy whale
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RAGEY 14 minute average wait time gimme back my 5 minute wait time

zealous meteor
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dps moment

dreamy whale
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Tragic

pale blade
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https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SteamClientBeta/announcements/detail/599669707226744434
Steam now has GameCube controller support via the Wii U adapter as well as Switch 2 controller support

The Steam Client Beta has been updated with the following changes: General The Steam client is now 64-bit on Windows 11 and Windows 10 64-bit. Systems running 32-bit versions of Windows will continue receiving updates to the 32-bit Steam client until January 1, 2026. Game Recording Fixed errors copying to clipboard or exporting H265 videos on sy...

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wf TOP with GameCube controller

zealous meteor
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this one's bigger tbf

The Steam client is now 64-bit on Windows 11 and Windows 10 64-bit.

    Systems running 32-bit versions of Windows will continue receiving updates to the 32-bit Steam client until January 1, 2026.
pale blade
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yeah but who cares about that, the GameCube controller lives another day /s

visual geyser
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W lalafell

dapper zealot
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I use it for my sge fit

zealous meteor
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i'll get it soon™

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only 5 more ranks

versed kayak
zealous meteor
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why are they so fucking big

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yeah they sure are air cell shoes. full of air

versed kayak
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the kinda shoes you need to take off at a height check for a roller coaster

zealous meteor
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what the hell are these even made of

dapper zealot
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Air

versed kayak
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Material wise they look like relatively hard plastic so I imagine the grip is horrendous

zealous meteor
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they look SLIGHTLY better on lalas

sly basin
zealous meteor
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oh look at who i found in the gold saucer

versed kayak
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oh that's actually neat

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wonder if you can find alpha gambling there too

dapper zealot
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Why is it called a square if it's round?

loud nymph
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Ask your mother

zealous meteor
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because godbert is a FUCKING LIAR

whole estuary
dapper zealot
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I found alpha in revenant's toll once

versed kayak
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that was the first time where I saw the two I think

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some ShB quest takes you into the kitchen there

dapper zealot
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In the kitchen above rowena

dapper zealot
loud nymph
dreamy whale
whole estuary
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There's also The Boy and the Dragon Gay: A Literary Analysis inside the Hard mode dungeon

zealous meteor
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gay dragons....

zealous meteor
# dreamy whale Woke ruined heavensward /j

honestly heavensward is woke(tm) in plenty of other ways
anti authoritarianism, advocating for separation of church and state, hell the church is literally the big bad

dapper zealot
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Interspecies romance

dreamy whale
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Is it ok to use meditate when im moving to a boss after it dashes or knocks me back

whole estuary
# dapper zealot Interspecies romance

Of Loves Unrequited: Oh, but why must the gods curse me so! By what cruel trick of fate was I given this oversized, ungainly body and sent into this world where you abide─my princess, my goddess, my everything! Your delicate hands, your shapely head, your dark eyes in which I would lose myself and never return! Yes, every aspect of your being strikes me to depths of the heart I knew not I had until the day you first appeared before me. And yet, I am a Roegadyn. Could one of your kind ever love a lumbering brute such as me? Good sense tells me that the answer is no, but my heart─nay, my very soul will not accept it! For bereft of your company, I fear I will wither away into a wretched husk of what was once a man. O, have mercy on this poor soul, my goddess! Pray grace me with your presence when next your travels call you to Limsa. My beloved Brayflox, just say the word and I am yours forever!

dapper zealot
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Text wall jump scare

whole estuary
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suddenly Brayflox

zealous meteor
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ARR-stormblood really push the anti fascism angle, dawntrail's first half is all about accepting people despite your differences

the entire game hammers home that clinging to the past won't make things better in the long run, even if it helps in the short term. which is a political position too

dapper zealot
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Can't forget the goldsmith :)

zealous meteor
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this game has been woke since ARR neofox_woozy

whole estuary
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DT brought us representation of positive dictatorships

zealous meteor
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yea the dawnservant system is kinda. weird

whole estuary
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not really

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if anything, when I play a fantasy game I'm expecting to have kingdoms and stuff

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save da pwincess

dapper zealot
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Not really any different from a monarchy

zealous meteor
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yeah but it kinda contradicts GJJ's stated goals

zealous meteor
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monarchy isn't weird but they're like "we don't want to rule as kings!" but the dawnservant is pretty much a king

whole estuary
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I got the feeling they didn't want to be despots rather than not wanting to be kings

dapper zealot
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Koana was too busy on tech and forgot to bring over forums

whole estuary
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except of course, the one who wanted to be a despot

versed kayak
loud nymph
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Think they mean meditation

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not meditate

boreal pumice
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mnk move

dreamy whale
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Yea

versed kayak
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oh yeah that exists, ignore me

dreamy whale
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Is there another move called meditate on a diff job

loud nymph
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sam

dreamy whale
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Oh ok

whole estuary
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Should I use Inspirited Mediation or Forbidden Meditation deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

loud nymph
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they use it to generate kenki (and shoha stacks I think?) during downtime

versed kayak
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ye Sam gets something you can channel while standing still that gives you resources

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it gives shoha stacks yep

loud nymph
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in theory ye you can use meditation on MNK to open chakras while you are closing back in to the boss

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but in reality

versed kayak
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pretty neat button

loud nymph
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you shouldnt be disconnected for long enough to do that

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esp with multiple charges of thunderclap

whole estuary
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bring back Anatman

loud nymph
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just ultra instinct yourself back into melee range

whole estuary
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let it overcap Chakras like Brotherhood

jolly flume
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big balance said so it's optimal

whole estuary
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who am I to go against big Perfect Balance

sly basin
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i didnt u can fly and be a cat

thin tartan
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@vast jacinth

visual geyser
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Bro why does this go so hard LOL

dull drum
craggy apex
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LOL WTF

limpid edge
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i need fru bis, how do i do m2s again

craggy apex
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get hit by the hearts

limpid edge
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i should try invuling the middle and gettin hit by every heart

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does that work?

rapid whale
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brings the dmg back to on patch levels ig

undone tide
rapid whale
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had to escape the community black list yo /sarcasm

undone tide
#

you can drop the /sarcasm

#

we know its true

valid solar
undone tide
#

this idea goes hard though

#

i need more geometry dash x xiv

jolly flume
rapid whale
#

japanese flag

random needle
jolly flume
#

it's not like it never happens but it's pretty rare

#

downtime wroth moment

#

have to press meditate like 3 times

undone tide
#

had a dungeon this weekend with a monk who always opened with SSS and just weaved like PB, ROF, BH, TFC, and ROW

#

can’t tell if based or not

loud nymph
random needle
undone tide
#

i’m going to start teaching new paladins that you can’t use requiescat during fof

rapid whale
undone tide
#

teach them shadowbringers style

jolly flume
undone tide
#

man imagine a dawntrail baby being introduced to the concept of popping your buff 18s prepull

random needle
#

... what?

undone tide
#

is this genuine

random needle
#

I started like 2 months before DT and I hadn't even started Stormblood by the time it came out, I'm horrified and intrigued

undone tide
#

so

#

as you may know

#

paladin was reworked in 6.3

#

one of the main changes was that fight or flight could now buff your magic

#

before it was only physical

jolly flume
#

we had -21 prepulls for astro back in endwalker gladge

undone tide
#

so for optimal damage, you’d have a 25s fight or flight window and then a 10s requiescat window

jolly flume
#

nobody misses that

rapid whale
#

watafak

undone tide
#

which is incredibly long

#

in order to avoid downtime, we would pop fof prepull to line requiescat with specific mechanics

#

obviously only for certain fights, but some fights it was a necessity to keep uptime

rapid whale
#

is this where the pld spread sheet gaming became a thing

random needle
#

Whoof

jolly flume
#

it's still a spreadsheet job

undone tide
#

in ultimates the problem was significantly worse

jolly flume
#

just less interesting to spreadsheet

random needle
#

I think I heard of something somewhat similar for AST where you tried to pull a specific card before starting a pull? Though I dunno what version that was in

undone tide
jolly flume
#

you wanted melee cards

#

because back then draw was a 30s cd, and it was random if you'd draw a melee or ranged card

undone tide
#

there was also a time when not every ast card buffed damage though

#

back in stormblood i believe

#

so you’d draw a card that just…buffed healing or some shit

#

so you fished for balance

jolly flume
#

even endwalker was like that to an extent

#

not with your standard cards, but lord and lady were still random back then

undone tide
#

yea

#

bruh flashback to dsr when asts would hold lord literally 8 minutes for meteors

jolly flume
#

yeah dude if you didn't have a lord for meteors you just gg go next

#

that's -3200 potency

#

like hello?

trim frost
#

nice healbro

undone tide
#

macro + star + lord

#

like holy shit

#

insane stuff they could do

jolly flume
#

astro still singlehandedly makes the meteor check fake without lb

#

2 or even 3 deaths? no problem

undone tide
#

i miss dsr man

#

i just know the fight feels like shit on pld though

jolly flume
#

pld is the only tank I play in there because 90 gnb gives me cancer now

#

and it's just crazy good in there

undone tide
#

how does it feel

#

rotation wise

jolly flume
#

it's fine enough I guess, the part that stinks is on fast kts your 1s line up really weird into intermission and if you have to lb you get cancer iirc

#

it's been a while since I was in there on tank

#

I don't think there's really anywhere that you have to do funny shit like fru desyncing fof and req though

undone tide
#

i dont remember doing that in fru

#

i say that with doubt like i didn’t know pld’s fru rotation like the back of my hand

#

is that just because of off patch kts

jolly flume
#

pretty sure you were supposed to fof in downtime during LR

#

but maybe i'm misremembering idk

#

so in intermission blade combo becomes like the back half of your fof window instead

undone tide
#

you gcd and then req asap

jolly flume
#

yeah when she spawns middle in the tower

#

iirc it's only like 7s lost off the buff though

undone tide
#

that

jolly flume
#

I always get 5/8 in my no mercy there

undone tide
#

is not supposed to be done

#

on pld at least

#

you should be getting 8/8 gcds

#

the only time in the fight you desync fof and req is for cleave in p4

#

you hit fof on cd but delay req to cleave after gaia spawns

jolly flume
#

maybe just gnb then, the numbers probably work out differently for pld

#

if you delay no mercy that far you lose either a full use of gnashing to align it or you lose gnashing in the buff entirely

undone tide
#

yea i think i get where that’s coming from

#

during intermission COS + EXP come off cd like at the tail end of fof

#

but its not a problem obviously because its not a combo

random needle
#

For me rn, the biggest annoyance I'm having in DSR is not knowing where to Manafont in p5, mostly because there's nowhere I can get significant mileage out of a double length fire phase before he dips

thin tartan
rapid whale
#

was it because you used the same mog station item as them

trim frost
#

same mod same dye

undone tide
jolly flume
#

I was gonna say flare flare flarestar but this is old content

#

gg

boreal pumice
jolly flume
#

but it's probably worth it to just end your fire phase early as long as you get another despair off

random needle
#

... It's embarrassing to only just now realize it this late in prog, but yeah I probably could stand to be using a lot more despairs than I have been up to now

worn bluff
#

i forgot to change into fru gear before entering instance so my glam is all messed up

#

fml

boreal pumice
#

ok wipe it niko has to change glams

vast jacinth
random needle
#

There's actually a lot of optimization it seems like I could be doing, but damage is not really being an issue so far, so I'm debating how worth it it is to try and perfect this, if at all

I'll probably just try to stick to using Despair instead of F4 if I'm about to be cut off

rapid whale
#

Optimization is almost always a personal thing as in the content is clearable by people doing things far from optimal

#

If you find it enjoyable go for it

#

If you just want a clear then shrug

#

Might be more of a concern in week one or on patch

dull drum
undone tide
random needle
dull drum
#

i feel like most people end up optimizing mid prog whether they’re aware of it or not tbh

jolly flume
#

I mean yeah you're supposed to

#

just don't get so into the weeds about that shit that you forget to do a mechanic

dull drum
#

the opti cant be that deep right

random needle
#

I'm not optimal optimal, but I'm doing my best to try and improve things where I can

dull drum
thin tartan
random needle
#

Especially trying to put in more paradoxes, but now I'll also try to fit more Despairs

rapid whale
#

I've totally not forgotten to do wb1 cuz I'm too busy trying to cleave smile

undone tide
#

i quite literally never hardcast b3 or f3 on blm just because its fun and easy

daring pine
#

yes

#

stonefang

dull drum
#

today i learned hitting lightning shot is loser mentality on gnb

daring pine
#

whats wrong with lightning shot

random needle
#

I should start dropping lines during WB1, I don't have to move anywhere at all in p6 until hand of pain

undone tide
#

this has been and always will be true

dull drum
undone tide
#

gnb gets punished for downtime more than any other tank

jolly flume
#

what else do you want me to do man I get light tether on wings every time in p5

#

and nobody in pf does the uptime positioning for the tank

dull drum
#

risk wiping the party for a last minute cart

random needle
#

In Red Mage terms, it's like if you had an instant cast for movement that didn't give you any extra mana-- hey who left Reprise here

jolly flume
#

ohhhhhh

worn bluff
#

i tried to GNB in FRU just now and realized i've never done any hard content on GNB

undone tide
worn bluff
#

this job is hard with no muscle memory

jolly flume
#

yeah I just put the lightning shot in the bag

#

every pull

undone tide
#

where my unmenders at

dull drum
#

i did that and my static tank laughed at me

worn bluff
#

GNB is so much harder than PLD bcaVerySadCry

daring pine
dull drum
#

“why u lightning shot the downtime was less than 5s”

daring pine
#

please don't say the R word

dull drum
#

SIGH

#

mb for being safe

undone tide
#

wait

undone tide
#

hold on

jolly flume
#

clipping your gcd is sometimes preferable to lightning shot it's true

#

but also like

#

I'd rather have a 100% consistent gcd roll

#

idgaf about my 50 potency loss bro the boss is gonna die

dull drum
#

watch this tier have hella downtime portions

daring pine
#

no please

#

the bards are gonna get silly again

#

make this tier full uptime because i hate pictomancers

#

except for bapple

worn bluff
#

idk if i was doing it wrong but the balance GNB FRU opener doesn't work with lightning shot pull right? i don't think you can lightning shot and also get the 2nd blasting zone

worn bluff
#

it's my first time looking at it i used to copy chiyo's thing

undone tide
#

peep this fucking gunbreaker

daring pine
#

45 lightning shots

undone tide
#

this is an ungodly pull on my part from a convo i had like 5 months ago

undone tide
#

if you were wondering the conversation was about “why are we enraging”

jolly flume
#

this is the content respecter of all time

daring pine
#

bro

#

in what universe do you lightning shot 45 times

worn bluff
random needle
#

0.62%?? I'd crash out

worn bluff
#

i assume they mean face pull if they didn't list lightning shot

undone tide
#

14 burst strikes in 11 minutes

#

dawg.

jolly flume
#

oh yeah they facepull

worn bluff
#

i think 2nd weave slot BZ means you have to face pull

jolly flume
#

you can voke pull to the same effect too

#

I think it's just because lightning shot makes the last gcd sketchier if someone early pulls you and you don't jump the boss back to the middle

#

but I find it way way easier to position the boss with it

worn bluff
#

yeah i was getting that just now

#

couldn't get the 2nd BZ reliably

random needle
#

What is face pull? Is that just letting the boss sight aggro you instead of slapping them first?

jolly flume
#

yeah

#

facepulling can be kinda unreliable so I'm not a huge fan of it

loud nymph
#

why did they lightning shot 45 times in m7s

worn bluff
#

yeah i don't like face pulling

#

also i mainly play PLD so i'm not used to face pulling anyways

random needle
#

Could you Trajectory first and then do the opener as written? Or is that basically the same?

jolly flume
#

gapcloser pulling is cancer for melees if the boss doesn't start in the middle

dull drum
#

if one BZ missing causes an enrage

jolly flume
#

the boss won't move until you drag it backwards

dull drum
#

my party has skill issue

undone tide
random needle
rapid whale
#

m8s doesnt count that arena is the size of a nyc apartment

worn bluff
jolly flume
#

this just consistently gets me my last solid barrel albeit the damage from it will always ghost

worn bluff
jolly flume
#

so in that sense it's probably suboptimal to some degree but whatever, it's comfy

rapid whale
#

was a fun one

undone tide
random needle
#

I should probably melee in a fight at some point just so I get a better feel for it

undone tide
#

what were u thinking pal

jolly flume
#

this is why noble keeps saying

#

if you haven't played melee before to some degree you're probably giving your melees cancer as a tank

worn bluff
undone tide
#

so do you just

random needle
#

Maybe I'll melee for UWU when I finally get around to doing that

undone tide
#

learn one mechanic at a time

#

hmmge

worn bluff
#

no i mean outside the game

dull drum
worn bluff
#

too much brain space on raid needed some detox

dull drum
#

we got 2 new applicants

#

both skipped this tier after m5s week 1

undone tide
#

bruh.

#

why

rapid whale
#

filtered by sugar riot

undone tide
#

m5s was actually good imo

dull drum
#

no idea

undone tide
#

ohhhhh

#

yknow that makes sense

#

LMAO

jolly flume
#

m5s was a pretty neat fight

dull drum
#

and it looks not THAT bad

undone tide
dull drum
#

surely m6 wasnt that bad

rapid whale
#

m6s might be why they want a static this time around idk

#

i know that fight was hell in pf

undone tide
#

i specifically really love the section with the in/outs and proteans

rapid whale
#

data point: my exp

dull drum
#

kinda

#

i think we were like 5/8

undone tide
#

also if you’re getting filtered by m6s why would anyone hardcore want you in their static

rapid whale
#

m6s was just the kinda fight that exposed any gap in knowledge of your role imho

#

you didnt know how to economize movement as caster, rays fucked you

#

didnt know how to cleave properly adds fucked you etc

daring pine
#

yeah p much

dull drum
#

rondo switched to pld for m6 because the mt pf tanks were so dogshit it drove her nuts

undone tide
#

i actually didn’t have a problem with adds at all, i picked it up immediately

dull drum
#

she was on rdm when we did m5 in pf

rapid whale
#

yan tank esp had to actually cycle mits efficiently otherwise double yan says goodbye

daring pine
#

idk as soon as i had the adds prio down i was fine as caster

dull drum
#

the early raidplans dont explain what the mobs do

#

so no one knew

undone tide
#

i definitely think i could have progged this tier better but i am proud specifically of my play in 6

rapid whale
#

ya individually nothing was too hard it's just the fact each player had to know their job well

#

any weak players left you in the dust in m6s

undone tide
#

also stah would you guys happen to have a tank slot mewpaissa

rapid whale
#

holy

jolly flume
#

they do actually

#

lol

rapid whale
#

is this cinema

daring pine
undone tide
#

hours

#

the chances i can dedicate to it are slim to none

#

but it would be cool

daring pine
#

bapple during my 6s reclears i dont think i met a single prange that wasnt turbo braindead during desert

rapid whale
# daring pine mb i wanted to greed with a defam

idk if theres a clip but there was a pull where they were like, "Bapple you have defam BAPPLE YOU HAVE DEFAM" and i smudge out, being like "i know what im doingggg" -> next pull i kill the party by not going out as defam

daring pine
#

when u bait bombs

rapid whale
#

LMAOOAOAWAWHOWAHAOWEHRAE

daring pine
#

like buddy why are u standing on top of me

#

fuck off to the other side

#

why does nobody know left from right

rapid whale
daring pine
#

why is there a prange on top of me as a caster

#

wings in hole

rapid whale
#

on that one, some ppl do true north others do sandpit relative

#

i hate whichever one makes me move more

daring pine
#

yeah and nobody can make up their mind on where to stand

jolly flume
#

what tf is peoples obsession with true north strats

#

it made no sense during m1s it makes no sense in 6 either

rapid whale
daring pine
#

i just did it relative to the sandpit

#

like a normal person

#

💔

worn bluff
rapid whale
#

that gif never fails to make me laugh

undone tide
daring pine
#

another thing that annoyed me about m6s

#

nobody can fucking do towers when it's the easiest thing in the fight

#

nobody knows what a direction is

rapid whale
#

i low key just gave up uptime and picked the furthest tower

daring pine
#

i just respected the mech for wingmarks

#

lost like 1 or 2 gcds of uptime but like

rapid whale
#

i knew from the start m6s parses werent going to be real because of adds phase

daring pine
#

its better than dying

#

i still havent gotten better than green but i just dont wanna do the fight again

#

like im so tired of it

rapid whale
#

they r fake

daring pine
#

m6s parses annoy me

rapid whale
#

its just who takes turns on being the one who gets to cleave

daring pine
#

yeah

#

like when im baiting ray and party takes 5 years to drag mus over

undone tide
#

smoge

daring pine
#

i have like

#

a 41 or something its ok

#

let me check my last log cuz im p sure its literally just uptime atp

rapid whale
#

my only decent barse on it was cuz my friend was tanking and they were a god at clumping

#

otherwise i eat put the green in the barse bag

#

having a set of hammers, comet, and mog beam for 2nd jabber and cleaving all the mus at same time was so chefs kiss

daring pine
#

oh it was a 48

#

man thats annoying

#

how did i get a blue on 7s what i was giga ass

random needle
rapid whale
#

i dont have it

#

@jolly flume do you have the mch bot gif

daring pine
#

ok yeah bapple

#

i checked my 48 clear

#

its mostly uptime

#

butr i havent done 6s in almost a month so i cba to make meaningless number go up anymore

rapid whale
#

yea esp off patch parsing

random needle
#

Ohhhhh right I saw that

daring pine
#

yeahh

rapid whale
#

are inflated af since nobody playing

daring pine
#

on patch parse would be more meaningful

random needle
#

The only thing I kinda hope for with barse is that my number goes above 50 eventually

daring pine
#

at least i got my first purple on 5s

#

figuring out uptime for lets dance remix was basically all i needed to do

rapid whale
#

slide cast go zoom

daring pine
#

i cant even greed a slidecast there im on like 150ms

#

on eu i might be able to

rapid whale
#

i remember on launch i was sweating my ass off getting subtractive cast slide casting thru arcady

daring pine
#

its like

rapid whale
#

looking back that was prob just an inefficient use of paint but lol

daring pine
#

marginally harder for me to greed uptime on na than eu

#

depending on the mech

rapid whale
#

i felt like a god

daring pine
#

only very slightly but if the mech is fast enough then ermm

daring pine
#

pray i have instant casts

#

but

dull drum
#

we’re recruiting for a tank rn

daring pine
#

if i just saved a melee combo for it i was gucci

dull drum
#

i’ll be your cotank so gl lil bro

daring pine
rapid whale
#

yeap

daring pine
#

summoner isnt a real caster

rapid whale
#

movement economy is everything

daring pine
#

so they're not included in this

undone tide
daring pine
#

optimising over the course of a fight and planning your instant casts for movement etc

#

is nice

rapid whale
#

gg wol hates us

undone tide
#

ain’t no way i’m tanking with you brah

rapid whale
#

will you tank for me??

#

👉 👈

daring pine
#

i've been slowly optimising myself in m8sp1 bapple its so fun

#

but people fucking suck and it annoy sme

undone tide
#

i care about who my cotank is more than who my caster is

rapid whale
#

gg..

#

wol haet mi..

dull drum
#

basically the tldr is im learning tank this tier

daring pine
#

greeding my melee combo during millennial decay

#

licking my lips

dull drum
#

if im holding the team back i swap with rui tempest

undone tide
#

what are your guys hours/goals

daring pine
#

i also fucking sucked

#

but these people just do not get better man

rapid whale
#

its the

#

i forget the fancy psych term

#

but tldr you are seeing a bunch of randos but seeing your own growth and dont see them often enough to see theirs

daring pine
#

dunning kruger thing?

rapid whale
#

no

daring pine
#

well no that is it

#

lol

rapid whale
#

its like the growth version of "you judge others by their actions but yourself by intentions" thing

daring pine
#

idk i just need a mental break from pf so i hope i clearge soon

dull drum
rapid whale
#

yea not everyone can tolerate pf

dull drum
#

will dm it

daring pine
#

its the fomo brah its making me tweak

rapid whale
#

what fomo twin theres no ultimate unlock

daring pine
#

i know bro 💔

#

baby's first bis

#

allow meeee

rapid whale
#

only to replace it with crafted gear in like 2 weeks

#

lmaoo

daring pine
#

real

#

idk it'll just be a nice memory for when im better at raiding

rapid whale
daring pine
#

"oh hey the first bis i got"

dull drum
#

@undone tide dmed it

rapid whale
#

naw i understand you

#

getting the first complete tier under your belt is a big milestone for sure

zealous meteor
#

if i clear heavyweight. my first bis set will stay on a retainer or whatever forever

dull drum
#

rn they’re training me on tank so im just going through m5-8 rn

rapid whale
#

im like 99% sure i would still get shakies from m4s just out of it being my 1st tier

dull drum
#

most likely gonna be gnb but i can play the other tanks

random needle
#

That's the kinda greed they talked about in the Bible I think

rapid whale
#

the funniest part saph is theres ways to do that without using any movement other than the dash back in

daring pine
rapid whale
#

ive seen @copper eagle get away with absolutely ILLEGAL shit in m8s

#

same with cats

daring pine
#

dude

#

where's that m5s gif of the mnk during ride the waves

random needle
#

New use for Displacement just dropped, marcebean

daring pine
#

i would rather kill myself than use that stupid fucking button

rapid whale
#

i would show u other crazy movement tech clips but banned

daring pine
#

fuck displacement

#

fuck reprise

rapid whale
#

ther ewas one on m3s that was utter insanity and im convinced only possible on jp ping

random needle
#

Agreed tbh, I wish Displacement had a slightly larger range so you didn't already have to be making out with the boss to use it

daring pine
#

i swear displacement has very slight anim lock

#

but i might be tweaking

#

because i dont press the button ever

copper eagle
daring pine
#

and also did not do damage

#

and also had separate charges

random needle
daring pine
#

just make it a normal backflip actually

#

and change corps into a frontflip

rapid whale
#

sent u both the clip

rapid whale
# copper eagle

i was telling them abt the criminal activities you pulled on rev reigns

copper eagle
#

oh icic

#

yeah'

#

before i was fucking washed

random needle
#

Not really the same, but I've gotten away with some utterly criminal dodges in DSR

undone tide
#

just saw a man in booty shorts and a hoodie in the gas station

#

mind you its 45 degrees

undone tide
#

never thought of valcors like that but now that you mention it can’t get the idea out of my head

#

that guy did look like he played a male highlander

jolly flume
#

😭

undone tide
#

i wonder what people would think i played as if they saw me irl

trim frost
#

NO

rapid whale
#

sloppay

jagged aspen
#

who tf is this

true beacon
#

Zordon

jolly flume
#

omegaface

#

they're all over the top weapons

#

if you squint

rapid whale
#

congrats on your top clear

dull drum
#

how many top clears did we do i forgot alr

#

like 20????

undone tide
#

how tf did this not get nominated for best soundtrack

undone tide
#

why do people subject themselves to tea in the year of our lord 2025

jagged aspen
#

why, is coffee better

rapid whale
#

tbf rosegold glow kinda nice

wicked delta
undone tide
#

i do not look like a twink

#

i like to think

wicked delta
#

every femra player is either toxic egirl/twink irl/looks like league of legends player

rapid whale
#

it's okay we can be short together

#

wait does that mean i have to make a femra next

wicked delta
#

maybe

rapid whale
#

god having to do msq on 4 characters

low hearth
#

bjcc is so hard bruh

rapid whale
#

lewd

undone tide
worldly grotto
wicked delta
#

too much work

undone tide
#

i kinda miss my fem middie era