questions-and-help

[ripe hound]

Pretty sure RDM’s main problem was AOE being unsatisfying

Just, it “feels” meh

[warped nest]

Red Mage do have their verholy, verflare, and scorch reworked for EW so they works more like BLM Foul

A skill that's good for both AOE and Single target

[ripe hound]

Yeah and Scorch 2

[warped nest]

(BLM get Xeno in ShB, but Foul is good for both in SB)

[ripe hound]

Is it 2? No idea

[warped nest]

Doesn't make samurai worse though

They get an AOE shoha

And a super midare, which is very likely an AOE

And two stacks of meikyo and tsubame

Done correctly you can be doing nothing but strong AOE skills for a solid 30-40s

[patent citrus]

say no more 👀 level both

[random violet]

hi does anyone know if that one emote that NPCs do where they put their left hand on their hip, lean back ever so slightly and stretch their right hand out in front of them in a kinda point is available to players?

[umbral dune]

/cpose

just hit that command several time

[random violet]

this one

[amber portal]

Guys, does anyone know if this is class specific? (the belt+ gun holster?) Thank you!

[twilit arch]

uhh its female miqo'te /doubt i believe? @random violet

[amber portal]

Only female Miqo'te can wear the gun holster?

[random violet]

this is miqo doubt

[twilit arch]

its one of the female miqo'te emotes

[amber portal]

No this person is Hyur -- in the photo i posted i mean

[knotty stone]

Ok I have 2 classes both of them like 8-10 levels above the ARR MSQ level

[twilit arch]

was not responding to you, jackdaw

[knotty stone]

Should I try levelling another class with the MSQ or is 3 too much

?

[twilit arch]

but to answer your question its the veteran reward, tantalus attire. 150 days reward

[amber portal]

Ohh it comes with holster right?

[twilit arch]

yes

[knotty stone]

My rogue is level 28 and my thaumaturge is level 32 while I have just done the Grand Company quest

[amber portal]

I see, Im curious tho, I saw it on a person that has sprout icon. Doesn't that mean if a person is beyond 90 days that sprout icon should be gone by then?

[agile turret]

is there a way to send unbound items from one character to an alt on a different world
like
mail some gil from a character on Lamia to an alt on the same account on Excalibur?

[random violet]

yea i just watched this video to see if it was a default miqo'te emote, but it's not in this video, so it must be one of the ones you unlock later, but i thought those were all the same just different based on gender mostly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZlJ8hLVt7M

[weak isle]

@agile turret Wait, why would you need an alt when you can play every class on one character?

[twilit arch]

new player status is only removed upon 168hrs played and completion of the main scenario quest "A Requiem for Heroes", which is the final stormblood quest. so if they haven't met both then they still retain sprout status @amber portal

[agile turret]

the original character was from about 6 years ago when I tried playing on ps4
I no longer have a PS4 and am on PC now, so I made a new character to relearn the game with

[weak isle]

Ah okay

[amber portal]

ahh I understand, i'm still far from 150 days sadly. But Thank you @twilit arch for the help!

[weak isle]

Is there an easy way to tell how far I am from getting to Ishgard?

[honest egret]

https://youtu.be/jKWDAe9g1N0
I need to be a 2nd Lt. to unlock the hunt quest lvl 50 Should I get to 2nd lt

[jagged prism]

how do i make some quick money for my botanist to continue the quest line at 53? my miner is 80

money for gear. im broke

[hexed cargo]

Have any scrips to trade for gear?

[jagged prism]

not much, where is the scrip trader?

[hexed cargo]

Mor Dohna is probably the easiest to get to

[warped nest]

Outside of checking the list of no

[weak isle]

@warped nest Looks like I'm still a good 60'ish quests away

[warped nest]

Not including the crystal tower alliance raid

[twilit arch]

ok figured it out, its elucidate emote. which you can buy with wolf marks @random violet

and some unlockable emotes do vary, sometimes quite a bit, on each race/gender

[random violet]

[hollow mesa]

I dunno if this belongs here.. but is the Syrcus Trench is a solo instance? Can we also have other players there? (the place that you travel in/out the source to the 1st)

[random violet]

you're a life saver! ty ty

[twilit arch]

its not tradeable

i was thinking of something else unfortuantely

its 15k wolf marks

so about a week and half ish, assuming you only do the weekly frontlines and you lose every time

[near path]

Did the VAs change again with Stormblood?

[twilit arch]

no

[craggy pendant]

Ironworks Vendor says they are opening soon but im level 50 and did the man in black quest?

[patent citrus]

I just watched MrHappy Eureka guide, is it really worth it to invest on vermillion/kirin?

I'm eLv 30 now

like how much boost (elemental bonus) does it give?

[rough vault]

are apartement worth it?

[patent citrus]

yeah

[topaz estuary]

where is the weapons for this set cant find the vendor

[patent citrus]

you can buy various NPC like material supplier, junk monger

easier access to various crafting items (low level) and necessary stuff

[rough vault]

damn and here I hoped I had enough to buy that

[patent citrus]

ohh nvm

[twilit arch]

its bought from eschina in rhalgrs' reach, or the rowena's rep in kugane

[patent citrus]

I mean it's just a matter of convenience really, if you don't have enough gil for it don't force yourself to buy it

[rough vault]

is their a way to sort ur armory chest or not?

automatically*

[patent citrus]

yeah

[rough vault]

how

[patent citrus]

I use this macro

only works for english client btw

I have no idea for french client

[rough vault]

man im too lazy to write it, can u dm it to me?

[floral snow]

Will the Moogle main quests allow me to patronize the Moogle vendor(s), or do I need to do a number of dailies to reach that level?

[hot eagle]

items on it unlocks with your rank at them so if you want stuff like the dance, mount you will need a high rank

[dire prawn]

I just saved || Ga Bu || and now we're off to go find Matoya again, how far am I from Matoya's Relict? (5.4)

[shell skiff]

I bought a staff just for the glamour and glammed it on top of my current staff. If I sell the item back to the marketplace will I loose my glamour?

[dire prawn]

No

[shell skiff]

Thanks ! That’s good to hear

Also what if I have a friend trade me a weapon for the glamour and trade it back can it work like that too ?

[cobalt badge]

ohshit

[twilit arch]

glamouring an item makes it bound to you

so you can't trade it once you've used it for glamour

[shell skiff]

Oh 😦 damn

Thanks !

[cobalt badge]

is there a / macro command for toggling or setting hotbar lock? ala clicking this button?

[clever bane]

Does anybody know the genre for "Metal-brute justice"?

[frail fulcrum]

If I place an aetheryte on my housing, will the tp for my fc housing disappear?

[twilit arch]

no

[frail fulcrum]

Ok thanks

[spiral inlet]

when does fashion report end

[floral snow]

So...does this mean grinding dailies or not?

[twilit arch]

with tuesday reset

!weekly

[zinc orbit]

Tick, Tock, Kupo!

Time Until Weekly Reset:

2 hours, 29 minutes, 15 seconds

[spiral inlet]

ok thanks

thanks kael

[hot eagle]

yeah you will need to the dailies to rank up

[rough vault]

what type of dps is red mage for the purpose of arcanas damage buff?

melee or dps?

melee or ranged*

[solemn jewel]

ranged

Counts as caster

[rough vault]

ight

is it just me or

astro is kinda hard to play

coming from a scholar player

[warped nest]

Which part is giving you problem?

[solemn jewel]

Oh i thought Astro was way easier than scholar

[rough vault]

balance healing and arcana giving

also the fact I gotta remember which card does what

instead of reading the tooltip

everytime

lol

[solemn jewel]

just remember arrow is melee

[runic cairn]

you don't tho

[warped nest]

Iirc, melee and range buff has a different outline on your job gauge

[runic cairn]

blue outline's melee, red outline's range

[solemn jewel]

plus malefic has a shorter cast time, perfect arcana window

[twilit arch]

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/promo/h/W/--01mGV-3m2wxzlCnKiD1QMB5w.png ranged

[warped nest]

You can spell, draw, spell, play card

[twilit arch]

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/promo/h/Q/vomp0v-jiPqYfd2jZZpxQ9iu1k.png melee

[warped nest]

Thanks Kael

[rough vault]

ight, thanks

[twilit arch]

if you noticed, there's a purple border for ranged, blue for melee. also the side icons are slightly different

[warped nest]

Another way to do it just just remember three cards of the same type

And whatever isn't those three you remember, just handle them differently

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[rough vault]

tbh, im kinda scared of playing any healer but scholar for a simple reason

the fairy carry me

so hard

people would have died so much if it wasnt for the extra hp of the fairy

[warped nest]

Your Lord and Lady cards work the same, they are stronger buff but don't contribute any celestial seals toward your Divination

[solemn jewel]

Astro is really straight forward

[warped nest]

Your fairy becomes relatively weaker as you level up

As contents becomes more challenging

So eventually it is still up to you to pull your weight

[rough vault]

still

[warped nest]

If you still want to try out healers, please give WHM a shot

[rough vault]

those few embrace cast

are a life saver

for my credibility

as a healer

(also I wanted to play astro for the drip 👀)

[solemn jewel]

Pop aspected helios

profit

[spare lark]

idk if its possible but can someone help me with my hotbar? idk if its possible but i want to like hold down the ALT key and have it change my hot bars 1 and 2 with new space for a whole bunch of skills? idk if its possible but if it is someone let me know via @ or DM

[spare plinth]

can you fight arr extremes solo? if so, do you have to plan how it works?

is it hard?

[patent citrus]

as lv 80 faceroll

[spare plinth]

you can go in blind? or you still have to prep

[patent citrus]

blind

[spare plinth]

is there like a certain ilvl to make it a breeze?

[solemn jewel]

i had no issues at lvl 70

ilvl 400? i think? had full scaevan

i did it all as whm u just have to sometimes walk out of an aoe and spam ur shit

[umbral dune]

the only thing that can kill you is Leviathan

but it just mechanic of not get dragging to the water

[fathom wasp]

Heavensward Glow Glam Weapon seems so straight forward, Crystals then Dungeons

[restive yarrow]

Someone please tell me that there's a way with mods or something to make it stop playing the combat music whenever I enter combat in the open world... I'm enjoying the calm music and atmosphere so much and it keeps pulling me out of it every time some random monster decides to agro me

[runic cairn]

don't even need mods, it's in the sound settings

[leaden ginkgo]

System config >Sound > Enable normal battle music

[restive yarrow]

I owe you my life.

[rugged thicket]

[restive yarrow]

[rough vault]

What major mechanic are introduced in HW?

[solemn jewel]

Combat wise?

[rough vault]

Not directly

But if ties in, sure

[runic cairn]

flight

for starters

[rough vault]

Dont u get this in ARR?

Then u gotta unlock it again

[runic cairn]

it was originally added in HW

[solemn jewel]

Fligth was added with HW

[patent citrus]

which class is the better one to solo at Eureka?

[runic cairn]

ARR flight came much, much, much later

[patent citrus]

WAR? what other classes?

[solemn jewel]

HW has the whole thing with zones being unlocked thru story progression

unlike ARR where u can just run up to Mor Dhona p much immediately

[rough vault]

Might be thinking of something else but
I heard something about very large instanced area

With 128 players

Or something

[solemn jewel]

oh Eureka

[rough vault]

Thats in HW?

[solemn jewel]

no stormblood

[rough vault]

Bruh

[solemn jewel]

i guess? Diadem?

Idk whats the cap on ppl in diadem is

[runic cairn]

i think 72

[rough vault]

Man, to think ill have to wait two month at level 60

[runic cairn]

but diadem no longer exists in its original form

[rough vault]

[solemn jewel]

Current Diadem is a large gathering instance

[rough vault]

I pre ordered EW so im gonna have to wait a good while

[solemn jewel]

u can do Alexander?

Thats a fun raid series

[rough vault]

So whats the diadem?

[solemn jewel]

Gathering instance for Ishgard restoration

its perfect to lvl gatherers and crafters

[rough vault]

I only see a mention of gathering here

Not crafting

🤔

[solemn jewel]

Well you can craft stuff with the materials and trade em in for uh stuff i dont remember

[quartz comet]

You can only enter diadem from ishgard restoration

Crafter lvl place

[solemn jewel]

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Ishgardian_Restoration

[quartz comet]

All of the material you need to craft for that place come from diadem

[twilit arch]

diadem is specifically for gatherers to get materials for restoration crafts

the crafter turn ins are in the firmament

[quartz comet]

But who got time for that when you can just buy it from market board and spam crafting non stop

[floral snow]

!weekly

[zinc orbit]

Tick, Tock, Kupo!

Time Until Weekly Reset:

1 hour, 46 minutes, 47 seconds

[twilit arch]

please use #kupo-bot-spam if you're using commands for yourself

[rough vault]

Who got the gil to spam craft instead of farming manually?

Pls help, im saving for appartement, im missing 50k

I cant afford buying stugf

I lost so much money buying some beach clothes

[solemn jewel]

just do a full set of roulettes

u immediately get those 50k

[quartz comet]

Get dat poetic and chane to material and sell dwm

[rough vault]

Still need to levelup a tank

Didnt work on them

They kinda boring

I actually only worked on bard and scholar

Now on astrologian

But only for the drip

[leaden granite]

Hey guys, completely new player here. havent even played WoW or any MMO for that matter ever. I have endless hours in PoE/D3 but wanna give FFXIV a try. I wanna play as a summoner, is that class "viable" and is the game playable "solo" as a beginner, at least for a while?

[twilit arch]

all jobs are viable

[leaden granite]

also, is there a good and up2date guide i can follow for a summoner?

[patent citrus]

https://youtu.be/XzBuQcfUdzU

[leaden granite]

thats nice to hear

thanks for the link

[rough vault]

For the solo thing
U often get put in dungeon with people
We got queues and system that guarantee ull get people no matter what

Usually between 1 and 10 minute

Even faster queue time if ur a tank or healer

[patent citrus]

other MMOs kinda work differently, starting fresh might provide a better experience

[leaden granite]

yea i dont have a general problem with partying up etc, but im such a bloody noob that ill definitely screw up 24/7 at the beginning which is why i wanna learn solo for the most part

[patent citrus]

comparing games for every aspect when you playing ruins fun

[rough vault]

Dont worry

[patent citrus]

just enjoy the ride and the story which is the main content of the game

[rough vault]

New players have a icon

And its not a bad thing

People understand

And are very welcoming to everyonr

U rarely get that one nerd that hate on everyone

[leaden granite]

sounds great. i come from the depths of min/maxing in D3 / PoE where screwing up will get you kicked fast

nice to know that MMOs seem to be a bit more forgiving to new players in that regard

[solemn jewel]

do drk

[rough vault]

But its so edgy

[solemn jewel]

its fuuun

[crisp prawn]

Hi im a little bit cvonfused on whats going on with the expansions. So I just finished finished "The Ultimate Weapon" for ARR, Am I able to enter heavensward? Im on the quest The GIfted and apparently im still on the base game. Wheres the quest to unlock heavensward and how do i know if i have it installed? if i dont how do i install it?

Character is level 51

[rough vault]

After the ultimate weapon

You have

80 quest

Before HW

[solemn jewel]

@leaden granite the main story of the game is solo, but every once in a while u gotta do party instances. You cant really "train" for those dungeons but the first ones are exceedingly easy

i literally did some of the early ones, got my entire team killed cus i forgot i had an ability and no one cared

[crisp prawn]

oh boy.... I didnt realize ARR was this long....

[solemn jewel]

technically ur in post ARR right

[hot eagle]

you only beat the base arr aka 2.0 you have 2.1-2.5x the patch stuff left before you reach heavensward

[solemn jewel]

between expansions is always post-expansions stuff to connect the expansions

[crisp prawn]

Still alot of quests XD. i was so getting so excitefd

[rough vault]

Same

Just finished today the 80 quest

Doe a lot of them

Are short

So thats that

You even get 30 and 20 minute of cutscenes at the end of post ARR

[crisp prawn]

I just hit 50, I wish i could at least you know do the rest of the quests at a lower level so i can level other classes im interested in

[rough vault]

You can

Do some leveling on other classes

And continue from them

To not "waste" the exp

[solemn jewel]

the post-arr quests have literally no exp gain

[rough vault]

That toi

Lol

[crisp prawn]

oh

[solemn jewel]

its just story

cus heavensward starts at 50

they dont want u showing up at lvl 60

[crisp prawn]

around how long does it take to level a class to 50? Cause i do want to try black mage

[rough vault]

A few hours?

If u aggresively go for the max dungeon

U got

At that level

[leaden granite]

oh one more thing: how does respeccing work in this game? can I just respec my character on the fly or do i need currency or something? or is it permanent and cant be undone?

[crisp prawn]

Whats the maw dungeon?

[rough vault]

I meant max

Typo

[runic cairn]

there are no talents to respec, every job has a fixed skillset

[rough vault]

Change weapon = change class

Its all free

And instant

[runic cairn]

and yes, changing classes is as simple as equipping a weapon

[solemn jewel]

All ur specs come from Gear

different weapon have different gearsets

[crisp prawn]

wdym. as in lets say I am a level 10 thaumaturge and I do a level 50 dungeon? wdym by max dungeon

[leaden granite]

ah wow okay, so i dont really invest into "skilltrees" for spells etc, with runes and whatnot? didnt know that, ty

[runic cairn]

the highest dungeon that is available at your level

[solemn jewel]

always do the max dungeon for ur available class

[crisp prawn]

oh ok

[solemn jewel]

Nope!

[crisp prawn]

is there a way to display blue quests on the map without having to go into that region?

[solemn jewel]

in endgame u all got the same skills and only some stat differences due to different gear and melding of said gear

[rough vault]

U do the dungeon ur character can do at most

If the class ur leveling is level 23

U spam the level 23 dungeon

Until u unlock a higher level dungeon

[crisp prawn]

got it. but there isnt a dungeon for every level right?

[leaden granite]

i see, ty!

[rough vault]

A dungeon run is usually 1 full level

[rough vault]

Nah

[crisp prawn]

ok thanks

[solemn jewel]

and until lvl 15 u just do hunting logs n stuff

[leaden ginkgo]

is there a guide/chart/calculator for beast tribe quests?

[crisp prawn]

oooh ok

[leaden granite]

does it matter what guild i join at the start if i wanna become a summoner? like, should i join the conjurer guild?

or do all skills unlock independently just based on my character lvl

[hot eagle]

arcanist is the base class for summoner

[solemn jewel]

Ffxiv functions on classes/jobs

[crisp prawn]

Hwo od you open the hunting log>

?

[solemn jewel]

you switch those by changing weapon. Summoner grows out of the Arcanist class

[crisp prawn]

NVM IGNORE ME

Im not this incompetent XD i tihnk

[leaden granite]

i see, so i gotta join an "arcanist guild" or sth? sry for those dumb questions lmao but i have legit 0 clue

[solemn jewel]

No its fine!

when you make a character you can pick summoner

and it starts you in limsa

and sends you to the guild

[leaden granite]

ah i see, so since i have the conjurer guild nearby i basically started the wrong class?

[solemn jewel]

Yea

i assume u started as White Mage

[leaden granite]

boy am i glad i asked right away

[solemn jewel]

i mean

[umbral dune]

you can join all guild so your starting job mean naught

[solemn jewel]

u can change pretty quickly

[rough vault]

Your starting class doesnt really have a huge impact

[solemn jewel]

its still like lvl 15 msq to even get to limsa from gridania

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[umbral dune]

that is just a tiny thing

[leaden granite]

i ll probably be going snailpace so i rather make a quick new char quickly tbh

no biggie

[rough vault]

U unlock the other class in ur town at level 10, and unlock the one at other towns at level 15

[leaden ginkgo]

is there a guide/chart/calculator for beast tribe quests?

I'm just very lazy and don't know how many points are needed for each level

[rough vault]

• the game greatly help you in leveling other classes

Classes below ur max level class get +100% exp

[fickle plume]

what happens with my account when my subscription ends? will i still have access to free trial stuff or will i be locked out completely?

[cobalt badge]

is there a / macro command for toggling or setting hotbar lock? ala clicking this button?

[nocturne herald]

I believe once you sub you can't access the free trial again with that specific account

[quartz comet]

Once you sub

[nocturne herald]

I'm not entirely sure though

[quartz comet]

You will need to pay to play

No more free trial

[solemn jewel]

locked out, but ur shit stays safe until u resub

[fickle plume]

alright, good to know

[solemn jewel]

u might lose your house if u dont go inside of it for a prolonged amount of time but for that ask someone who knows about housing

[quartz comet]

45 days max

Or no house

House is sub trap. Dont do it

[leaden ginkgo]

is there a guide/chart/calculator for beast tribe quests?
I'm just very lazy and don't know how many points are needed for each level

[leaden granite]

btw is there a way to "autocast" skills, or general macros etc?

or is that 3rd party tool area

or is that even allowed?

[nocturne herald]

tteechnicallly 3rd party stuff isn't allowed

[solemn jewel]

Theres macros but i dont think in the way u mean

[nocturne herald]

but it's practically just a policy of like don't say/don't discuss in game and u don't get punished

[leaden granite]

yea i understand, like in PoE or D3 then

[solemn jewel]

Ffxiv is very uh- addon-less

unlike WoW and stuff

[leaden granite]

ah okay

are there some go-to tools that are more or less required? or are very helpful? i dont have anything against 3rd party tools but i dont know shit about em

[quartz comet]

None

[leaden granite]

like path of building for PoE or trademacros etc

[solemn jewel]

They're not allowed

[leaden granite]

kk

[quartz comet]

They want everyone to play on same field as ps4 players

Or ps5

[nocturne herald]

You can easily make in-game macros for like crafting or something but they're highly not recommended for combat uses since macros don't queue up properly

[solemn jewel]

theres parsers that are quite common but they dont do more than show damage numbers

[nocturne herald]

other than like... mouseover macros for ground targeted skills or something like that, since those macros can actually be beneficial

[leaden granite]

okay, i just always see those huge-ass interfaces in streams with like 30 skills at the bar, do people click all that shit manually?

i always assumed that people set up macros for that

[solemn jewel]

keybinds

but ye ppl be pressing those

[quartz comet]

This game is combo based

[nocturne herald]

you typically don't have to click all ur buttons and most buttons that are in "hard to reach" places are situationally used

[leaden granite]

i see

[quartz comet]

Instead of one button spam

Except for healer dps

[tropic flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBJn67Rj9O4

[nocturne herald]

like arms length is used to prevent knock backs but if there's no knockbacks in a fight

[tropic flame]

IM BRINGING THIS SHIT BACK

[nocturne herald]

There's no point in having to press it

[quartz comet]

No

Getting 3 lines is very small %

[solemn jewel]

good for exp tho

[quartz comet]

Over 6 years i never get 3 lines

[tropic flame]

i got it once

[leaden granite]

okay, so back to my initial question: if there is a skill that i want to use on cooldown, there is no way to automate that (legally)?

[solemn jewel]

nope

[leaden granite]

kk

[quartz comet]

No

[solemn jewel]

u click that binch

[quartz comet]

Press that bitxch

[nocturne herald]

the GCD in FFXIV is very long anyway so it's not like you're actually pressing that much

like u press 1 every 2ish seconds

Glare Mage things

[quartz comet]

Job in ffxiv look complicated until you play them

And be like i want more button

[tropic flame]

you can put it onto another hotbar and enlarge it so you dont miss it when its off cd

[uneven wedge]

Does anyone know how to unlock Level 5 Death spell as a blue mage from Page 64 enemy in Great Gubal Library? I know how to trigger it (stand far away to switch off their tether and wait), but I have no idea how to acquire it. It's an instant kill attack and I was under impression you had to be hit by an enemy attack + defeat an enemy to acquire spells as a blue mage, which in this case is impossible in that sequence

[tropic flame]

you dont need to be hit by it

you just need to see it

[quartz comet]

Just saw it cast

[tropic flame]

and you can just see it multiple times to make sure you're gonna get it

[quartz comet]

And kill it

[tropic flame]

yeah

[uneven wedge]

Oh, that's super helpful, thank you!

[leaden granite]

oh, one question for general end-game in MMOs. are there "chase items" in some form, that make your character uniquely powerful or are general endgame characters in MMOs all very equally geared?

[quartz comet]

No

[leaden granite]

like, talking "stand out" items

[quartz comet]

Only some glamour

There no grind for endgame

[patent citrus]

that looks like pay2win game

you swipe credit card, you get this item that can 1 shot stuff

[quartz comet]

There no one item superior than others

[patent citrus]

you generally can't get pay2win item in pay2play game

[solemn jewel]

the nature of BiS makes it so that in the end everyone kinda just wears the same gear with different glam

[quartz comet]

Everyone got same item

Its boring but balanced

[patent citrus]

unless it's wow or something

[quartz comet]

And accesible

So you can unsub for 6 month and easy to catch up

[leaden granite]

i dont care about pay2win and that stuff. if there are items that require huge investments to obtain, thats good. im looking for stuff like that

endgame motivation etc

[solemn jewel]

Oh theres relic grinds

[quartz comet]

Only for show

The stat mean nothing usually

[patent citrus]

yeah many variety, depends on which content you are interested in

there are card mount for triple triad players, pvp mounts for pvp player something like that

[leaden granite]

okay so true endgame is chasing for visuals in terms of items then?

[patent citrus]

but these are cosmetics, yeah

[leaden ginkgo]

is there a guide for Beast Tribe quests?

[quartz comet]

Yeah

[patent citrus]

glamour are kinda end game

[leaden ginkgo]

please I need a answer

[leaden granite]

ah yea, cosmetics was the word im looking for lol

[quartz comet]

Ultimate give shiny weapon

Eureka give unique armor

[solemn jewel]

If no one answers you they prolly dont have a guide

[quartz comet]

Bozja have ff12 armor

And relic

Its grindy and only fot cosmetic usually

[patent citrus]

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Beast_Tribe_Quests

?

[leaden granite]

okay i see, thanks!

[quartz comet]

In termn of power or stat there non

[leaden granite]

so how difficult is obtaining BiS gear? To put a rough number on it

[quartz comet]

You get last tier bis? New crafted weapon will beat it

8 weekz

If your rng is bad

8 week if you can beat savage tier in week 1

[leaden granite]

okay, and can BiS gear be obtained playing solo mostly?

[quartz comet]

No

[leaden granite]

or do i need to party up since it drops from bosses etc?

[quartz comet]

Group with 7 people

[nocturne herald]

BiS with the relic is kinda whatever since the relic only gets upgraded to its most powerful form in the very last patch of an expansion and... by that point you've probably done most if not all content

though relic makes previous ultimates a lot easier

[patent citrus]

you can I guess but it's not the BiS that's decided by the balance

[solemn jewel]

Most gear drops from group stuff like Raids

[patent citrus]

like get all cryptlurker, 530+535 relic

[quartz comet]

Bis come from savage

[patent citrus]

that's kinda "BiS"

[quartz comet]

And some tomes

[sly stone]

Any guilds on Ultros inviting new players? Fresh off the block here!

[leaden granite]

kk i see. dont understand any of those words but i get the point 😄

[nocturne herald]

Keep in mind best in slot (bis) gear is a

[patent citrus]

yeah take it slow

[quartz comet]

This game is quite casual

[patent citrus]

raid is just a side content

[quartz comet]

So no point rushing it

[nocturne herald]

pretty minor upgrade from just getting full tomestone gear

[patent citrus]

main content is the story

[solemn jewel]

plus ur in for like, 4 expansion until u even get where u need current bis

[quartz comet]

Bis also for parsing only or help people clearing savage

[leaden granite]

mhm im usually not the "story" kind of guy tbh. i played poe for 10k+ hours and i honestly still dont know what the game is about

i enjoy grinding and upgrading characters etc

[patent citrus]

well everything is locked behind the story

[leaden granite]

minmaxing degen stuff

[solemn jewel]

Idk how other games you played work, but the expansions etc build on top of each other

[quartz comet]

Sadly this game have very little min maxing

[solemn jewel]

so to get to endgame u go thru base, heavensward, stormblood and shadowbringers

[quartz comet]

Other than gear

Most minmaxing come from uptime strat

And lining up buff with party members

Gearing is just meh

There no skill tree

[leaden granite]

yea i dont mind that. im just trying to evaluate the "long term" playability in terms of endgame goals/motivation

@quartz comet i see, thx for the heads up

[quartz comet]

Yeah. Just an head up..

Incase you want something like poe or wow skill tree

Those doesnt exist here

[midnight tinsel]

@leaden granite you can level sync do to any old content close to how it was back then and you can do all jobs on a single character if you start now theres a boatlod of content

[quartz comet]

It mostly uptime strat

[solemn jewel]

i personally dont care about savage content so im here for the glam and story heh

[quartz comet]

How many gcd can you slap before boss do aoe etc etc

[midnight tinsel]

Also the story is 1 more forced onto you and 2 infinitely more nicely presented then poe

[leaden granite]

okay so the item / build "depth" of the game is relatively shallow if i understood correctly? how does WoW compare to that (never played wow so no idea) ?

[quartz comet]

Also there only 4 boss every 5-6 month

Its really shallow

[random agate]

for the trail of the brave fates are they random or do i need to do some thine

[midnight tinsel]

I mean wow build depth is also shallow

[nocturne herald]

There's room for variation like if you want to build Black Mage with spell speed focus or crit-focus but outside of minor things like that

it's very

[midnight tinsel]

It just makes it look diverse

[nocturne herald]

shallow customization in terms of ur actual build

[quartz comet]

Its not that huge to be exact

[leaden granite]

i see, thanks for the honest answers

[quartz comet]

Just small thing

Like more skill speed

[twilit arch]

only so many fates can be active at one time in a zone, so you can try clearing fates in that zone to make "room" for the one you're looking for but ultimately just have to wait

you can also try world visiting to see if its up on other worlds

[quartz comet]

This game is rpg first and casual aim

So thats why the system is very simple

[leaden granite]

kk

how often do updates come out? and do they "shake up" the meta or introduce new strong items?

[quartz comet]

Nope

Meta wont change

Item is the same

Its always the same

New patch just introduce crafting gear

[random agate]

@twilit arch ok, was wondering because this is the first time ive tried the ArR relic grind

[leaden granite]

okay but ive heard that all classes are viable so i guess there isnt really a "meta" outside of general raid set ups etc?

[quartz comet]

And yoh need to do savage same as always

Meta only for speed runners aka 0.5% of the playerbase

[solemn jewel]

!faq meta

[zinc orbit]

How FFXIV's Meta Works

All jobs are good and viable in all content. The difference between meta and non-meta is minor, to the point that player skill is a significantly more important factor. Play what you enjoy/what interests you most, and you can make it work.

[quartz comet]

I think

[solemn jewel]

finally, kupo

[quartz comet]

All class is viable

Idk how endwalker turn out tho

[leaden granite]

whats crafting gear in that regard?

[quartz comet]

Just raid gear crafted

Entry gear for savage fight

[leaden granite]

kk

[quartz comet]

Avaiable every raid patch

Stronger than last tier bis

[leaden granite]

okay so, if a new patch (or expansion) comes out, they dont introduce new items? that make you think "holy shit thats OP, i want that" etc?

[quartz comet]

No

[solemn jewel]

ffxiv doesnt really work that way

[leaden granite]

like, thats usually the thing that motivates me when i see updates

hmmmm i see, i had a every wrong idea lmao

[quartz comet]

Yes. This game is jusy like that

[runic cairn]

gear in ffxiv is just stats

[quartz comet]

Gear is just side thing

[runic cairn]

that's it. there's no set bonuses like wow with big special battle effects that could be crazy op or completely useless

[quartz comet]

It make loot very boring but at the same time you dont need to invest a lot of time

[leaden granite]

so.. gear is just a side thing, endgame rewards are cosmetics and skills dont have their own "skilltrees" for customization?

[quartz comet]

Double edge sword

[leaden granite]

that sounds hella negative

just wanna clear it up

[quartz comet]

Yes

[runic cairn]

pretty much

[midnight tinsel]

There are no skilltrees

[runic cairn]

it's a matter of taste whether that's good or bad

[leaden granite]

yea i appreciate the heads up from u guys, honestly

[quartz comet]

Most skill come from your own performance in the fight

[runic cairn]

me, i'm quite happy to not need to grind out particular gear to perform halfway decently

[quartz comet]

And how well you can line up your burst with pt members

[runic cairn]

in the end yes it's just a question of how well you play your job

[stuck seal]

Gear makes a small difference, like a dps in 530 gear has an advantage over 520, but player skill is the deciding factor. A 520 perfect rotation will beat out a 530 not doing a good rotation anyway

[runic cairn]

on one hand yea it's kinda boring

[quartz comet]

Its targetted more on acssibility instead of gear farming

[runic cairn]

on the other hand having steady player movesets and not shaking up things wildly with each new gear tier lets them balance things well enough that you can just play what you like without fussing over meta

[leaden granite]

yea thats fair. im just not really looking for "skill expression", but more of a power fantasy of gearing my char up to the teeth and grinding for 1% upgrades etc

[patent citrus]

yeah, that's what this game about

[quartz comet]

Ah sadly you wont find that here

[runic cairn]

yeah, this game isn't going to fulfill that fantasy

[midnight tinsel]

Not your game then

[patent citrus]

huh how is that not this game, skill expression

you call gear skill?

[runic cairn]

they're NOT looking for "skill expression", they said

[leaden granite]

yup

[patent citrus]

ohhh I see

yeah I misread

I didn't expect that lol

[midnight tinsel]

Thats alot more poe

Lol

[quartz comet]

Thats like more poe

[leaden granite]

yea as i said, im coming from poe

[patent citrus]

I thought people would aim skill expression by default >.>

rip

[runic cairn]

i mean hey wanting to play a game and get crazy loot that makes you op is perfectly reasonable

it's a different kind of fun

[midnight tinsel]

And btw wow also wouldnt be good for you tbh

[quartz comet]

Thats like more destiny 2 or poe

[midnight tinsel]

Your pampered by poe xD

[quartz comet]

Crazy loot make ypu strong

[midnight tinsel]

Maybe something like maple story reboot if it should be an mmo ?

[quartz comet]

Or ragnarok online

[leaden granite]

haha, i do like "competitive" games that are all about skill expression. but i also enjoy just turning my brain off and smash mobs PvE mode

[midnight tinsel]

Turn of brain smash mobs is maple story xD

[twilit arch]

just gonna say that this is edging more closely to #video-games-general territory

[leaden granite]

yea it derailed a bit

[quartz comet]

Yeah

But yeah in conclusion this game is morely wont be your game

That you looking for

[patent citrus]

yeah it's just a game, find the one that you enjoy

[solemn jewel]

trials still free but wont show u how the endgame would even be

[leaden granite]

Probably. I ll still give it a try, it does look beautiful after all

[outer mural]

much of the game is mostly execution of a class's intended playstyle with limited skill expression via different optimizations

[leaden granite]

thanks for the Q&A guys 😄

[quartz comet]

Cough a8s cough

[outer mural]

so do with that what yo uwill

[thorn thicket]

Anyone know of a good, non-gil intensive way to level carpenter desynth?

[solemn jewel]

its a gorgeous game

maybe you'd even like the story

[mint matrix]

when does the media tour actually happen compared to when we get news about it

[spiral mango]

so guys from my understanding, the most "pure" tank is DRK ?

[willow sandal]

Paladin probably

But elaborate on pure

[spiral mango]

tank i mean receiving the least dmg

[twilit arch]

can farm grand cosmos for healing/casting helm to desynth, or some of the lv 80 housing items can be fairly cheaply made. but anything past 450 ish is going to require neo-ish

[spiral mango]

u know like a class focusing the most on being a tank and nothing else

if that makes sense

[outer mural]

all the tanks do that

WAR has the most personal mitigation tools if that's what you're talking about

[quartz comet]

All tank is just dps with mitigation ability

[spiral mango]

i mean like

how black mage has the highest dps

[cursive ridge]

BLU is the best tank :> Diamondback tanking let's go

[spiral mango]

the same but for tanks

[outer mural]

DRK and GNB are a bit tied, DRK is magic-focused with TBN as its strongest mitigation but is a bit middling on physical mitigation due to dark mind being super specialized

[patent citrus]

yeah GNB and PLD seems lack of self mitigation

[thorn thicket]

Not looking for 450 right just wanting to get up leveled, currently at 27...

[quartz comet]

Drk have best shield but have shittiest invuln button

[outer mural]

if you want the honest answer, it'd technically be WAR but all the tanks have such similar power budget in their toolkits that hte comparison does not matter

[twilit arch]

then i'd just farm qitana raval tbh

[willow sandal]

Wdym gnb has like 7 mitigation cooldowns

[twilit arch]

a lot of the accessories from it are crp

[cursive ridge]

also if you're thinking which tank to level, note that war and pld start from 1, drk starts from 30 and gnb starts from 60

[patent citrus]

none of those are known to be strong, just mainstream tank miti

unlike TBN or nascent flash

[twilit arch]

make sure youre running bacon broth+tinker's calm to make it go quicker

[nocturne herald]

PLD sort of lacks a "filler" tank CD until sheltron gets its trait upgrade tbh, but PLD is the only tank that naturally has block chance (due to having a shield)

[quartz comet]

They nerf parry block in shb btw

[spiral mango]

i mean like in fflogs

who is the best tank

[quartz comet]

Gnb

[nocturne herald]

the best tanks are the ones who do the most damage

so

[outer mural]

for DPS? gnb by an extremely small margin

[quartz comet]

Only by small amount

[nocturne herald]

pld and gnb

lol

[patent citrus]

1.5% difference

[quartz comet]

It so smol

[nocturne herald]

it's very minor at this point though

[quartz comet]

Only applied to speed runners

[solemn jewel]

It doesnt matter at all in most content anyway

[willow sandal]

Gnb is also fun to play so there's that

[quartz comet]

Gnb is fun

[spiral mango]

not dps. the exact opposite, which class has the most spells that are akin to being a tank

[outer mural]

again

it doesn't matter

[nocturne herald]

WAR and DRK is a "safer" tank combo but PLD has good party utility with shit like cover, passage, veil, clem, etc.

[cursive ridge]

the only minor consideration you should be worried about is ideally not having the same job as your offtank, as that slightly reduces your limit break charge time

[spiral mango]

it matters to me

[quartz comet]

All of them have same amount of mitigation

[outer mural]

every tank handles the same shit well and that metric doesn't matter because of that

[nocturne herald]

shake it off

[solemn jewel]

its just flavour

[outer mural]

i am telling you now this comparison you're trying to make is pointless

[spiral mango]

aha

[outer mural]

the biggest difference may be PLD just having less personal mitigation versus having more team mitigation tools

[quartz comet]

And even that people dont use it

[outer mural]

but all tanks eat tank busters extremely well and have enough to cycle through every fight

[spiral mango]

which class haas the most mitigation tools ?

[quartz comet]

All of them

[nocturne herald]

they

[outer mural]

we keep telling you

it's basically the same

[spiral mango]

i see

ty

[nocturne herald]

the biggest thing is like when you unlock DRK it doesn't have that many cooldowns yet

idk

[cursive ridge]

choose the one you like the playstyle or the looks of

[patent citrus]

just don't run 2 same tanks or something

cause their buff don't add up

[quartz comet]

They always have their own con and pros

[nocturne herald]

i wonder how they're making TBN more broken

[quartz comet]

So no tank are superior than others

Unless you speed running

[willow sandal]

He's not asking which tank is better

[spiral mango]

^

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[quartz comet]

Most tank with mitigation is gnb

[outer mural]

to be quite clear the question came off as 'which tank is the best at mitigating'

which comes off as 'which tank is the best'

[quartz comet]

For now

So gnb is the answer

[twilit arch]

they have roughly the same amount of mitgation tho

so its kind of a moot point ultimately

[spiral mango]

i already know that the game is well balanced

[nocturne herald]

I really don't get what you want us to say - they all have similar tools for the same situations

lol

[quartz comet]

They all have same percentage of mitigation if that what you asking

[spiral mango]

what im asking is which class is 90% tank and throws away ALL damage in favour of being a 100% pure tank. is the question now clear or do i need to reformulate it

[nocturne herald]

Literally

[twilit arch]

none of them

[nocturne herald]

no job in this game does anything like that

[solemn jewel]

They're all blue dps

[quartz comet]

None

[twilit arch]

all tanks are expected to do dmg

[spiral mango]

i see

[cursive ridge]

@spiral mango https://i.redd.it/g3vcxmbt1un71.png as you can see they all have basically the same cooldowns

[spiral mango]

@willow sandal anything you can add here ?

[outer mural]

for the sake of argument
WAR has nascent flash, raw intution, shake it off, thrill of battle and equilibrium as its unique tanking tools
DRK has dark mind, dark missionary, arguably abyssal drain, and TBN
PLD has Passage, Divine Veil, Sheltron, Intervention and Cover (not gonna count clemency, it's a meme)
GNB has camouflage, heart of stone, aurora and heart of light

if we were to compare all of them directly then WAR has the most tanking tools but DRK's raw mitigation is the strongest due to the high amount of magical tankbusters

but it functions less powerfully on physical attacks by comparison, in addition to lacking WAR's raw self-healing

tl;dr

doesn't matter, they do different things but function well enough

[spiral mango]

i see

so the only difference between WAR and DRK is physical and magical mitigation ?

[outer mural]

nope, if you play the classes you can find out that WAR has immense self-healing but doesn't have a mitigation tool nearly as powerful as TBN

[spiral mango]

i see

[outer mural]

but conversely you'll find that DRK doesn't have nearly as much self-sustain

[patent citrus]

yeah WAR is played a bit differently

[outer mural]

but then you'll see that PLD has a few more team support tools

[patent citrus]

you kinda have different mindset when playing this class

[nocturne herald]

nascent

[patent citrus]

but all classes are unique in their own way

[outer mural]

but then you'll also see that GNB is good in every situation but not as strong as what DRK, PLD and WAR really specialize in

[spiral mango]

so the most tankbusters are magical instead of physical ? @outer mural

[outer mural]

the answer is that the comparison is entrely pointless

I dunno, depends on the fight

[spiral mango]

thats the good stuff

[patent citrus]

tbh, level all 4 my dude

so you can change depends on your mood

[outer mural]

but don't play PLD

[patent citrus]

just change weapon, easy

[spiral mango]

i wont do that

[outer mural]

wait no jokes in here

right but yeah play waht you want

[spiral mango]

i know. im trying to speedrun annoying msq and subquests so i can unlock DRK.

[willow sandal]

Not really, I am a new player, played paladin to 60, swapped to GNB and never looked back because it's infinitely more fun (for me at least)

[outer mural]

DRK's fine, just sucky to level due to less mitigation until higher levels

[spiral mango]

i see

i have 2 more questions

[warm snow]

Then level war or pld so you've some experience under your belt as a tank

[patent citrus]

yeah, you won't have access to GNB if you haven't unlocked DRK most likely

[spiral mango]

difference between rDPS and aDPS ?

[candid osprey]

Does anyone know a site that sells the Perfect Alexander t-shirt besides SE's own website? I'd like to get it, but that shipping prices are so high...

[patent citrus]

rDPS is your raid contribution

[warm snow]

One accounts for raid buffs you give, the other is your solo dps

[outer mural]

rDPS is the calculation of how much DPS you contribute personally + the damage your teammates do from your buff

[patent citrus]

for example if your class has utility of 5% increase damage of the whole party

[outer mural]

aDPS is the calculation of how much DPS you do raw under buffs from other players, excluding single-player buffs such as DNC partner

[patent citrus]

your rDPS is aDPS + that utility contribution

[warm snow]

aDPS < rdps pretty much in terms of how good of a player you are

[outer mural]

and depends on what you look at

aDPS matters on top end speedkills

[sour dust]

does tenacity something I should get materia for scholar?

[cursive ridge]

no

[outer mural]

which is why DRK and GNB are preferred over WAR and PLD in speedkills due to better aDPS from their alignment with 60s buffs

[spiral mango]

so what are the keydifferences between these 4? does the reddit link posted previously answer this question ?

[warm snow]

Go into your attributes

[cursive ridge]

tenacity is tank exclusive, mind and piety are healer exclusive

[warm snow]

See how tenacity isn't there

It's because you don't use jt

[cursive ridge]

technically it's there, but it's in the Tank role attributes

[warm snow]

In a vaccuum flavour

[warm drift]

how long does it take to unlock beast tribe glamour?, wana get the kojin set

[warm snow]

Slightly different invulns, different combos, bursts, buff windows etc

[spiral mango]

that sounds like i did a good choice of going for DRK

[cursive ridge]

like 2 or 3 weeks i think?

[outer mural]

WAR - Well-rounded but focused on self-healing with good self-mitigation, revolves around managing a resource
PLD - Focused on team utility with a strict rotation
DRK - Magic-focused mitigation with a burst rotation that revolves around managing two resources
GNB - Well-rounded that has a very flexible and fast rotation

usually you'll end up picking the tank you like playing out of a DPS rotation rather than actual tools tbh, at least that's what I did

I appreciate TBN but really don't like playing DRK over WAR or GNB

[spiral mango]

ROFL

ahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

that was so fuckin funny

[patent citrus]

ah yeah the invul meme

just ignore hehe

[outer mural]

drk has like

abyssal drain

[patent citrus]

if you like DRK, play it

[outer mural]

and that's it lmao

play DRK if you like it, doesn't really matter since all tanks are viable

[cursive ridge]

The Namazu, Ananta, and Kojin quests grant 60 reputation points each (cap in 10 days at 3 quests per day).

[warm snow]

!faq meta

[zinc orbit]

How FFXIV's Meta Works

All jobs are good and viable in all content. The difference between meta and non-meta is minor, to the point that player skill is a significantly more important factor. Play what you enjoy/what interests you most, and you can make it work.

[warm drift]

nice thx caspian

[warm snow]

If you need to ask, you're definitely not at that level, player skill trumps job choice round these parts

[willow sandal]

Why do people meme on scholar since the live letter? haven't played healers.

[spiral mango]

i see

[warm snow]

It didn't get any flashy new skills, in the slides it's main point was that it can give a slight movement buff to players.

Nothing really interesting

[twilit arch]

cos scholar didn't really get anything flashy in the job trailer so ppl are over reacting

[outer mural]

^

[spiral mango]

so all tanks have around the same rDPS ?

[patent citrus]

a bit long answer, it's just that they compare themselves to the change to SMN (same arcanist class) and the new shield healer SGE

[outer mural]

we have genuinely zero clue if scholar got better, stayed the same or got worse

the presentation is just being mocked due to having only one noteworthy thing

[willow sandal]

He is an absorbtion healer, right?

[patent citrus]

We don't know how the new raid and skill works

[warm snow]

It's probably gonna still be balanced. But it's not gonna feel much better

[outer mural]

and said thing is construed as being underwhelming

[warm snow]

What, no

[quartz comet]

Its ok

[twilit arch]

scholar is a barrier healer

[warm snow]

It's a shield healer

[quartz comet]

People say sch is bad in stormblood too

[outer mural]

Scholar? it's a 'barrier' healer. We don't know if that means more shields or not for scholar specifically

[quartz comet]

And it was the best healer

[outer mural]

Sage is a 'barrier' healer but its toolkit translated from the demonstration shows zero ogcd shields

[quartz comet]

Yes im inhaling copium

[willow sandal]

What is a barrier healer? Damage preventing shields?

[quartz comet]

Sch mains

[outer mural]

so I'm unsure if barrier = mitigation or shields precisely

mostly likely both but means moreso mitigation

[warm snow]

Its arguably getting a bigger buff from the cast time buff as all its aether flow heals are ogcds

[warm snow]

Shields

That's what a barrier is

[quartz comet]

Barrier is shield

Needed for certain mech

Where hp wont survive

[outer mural]

I would agree if Sage had ogcds shields

[quartz comet]

Like e8s first aoe

No shield you die

[outer mural]

yes

[quartz comet]

In min ilvl

Shield also can be crit allowing every to take 0 damage multiple time

[spiral mango]

and who deals the least rDPS ?

even if by a small margin

[outer mural]

between DRK and WAR

[warm snow]

If you take 0 damage due to shields you get to ignore some mechanics

[outer mural]

they're usually very neck and neck

[warm snow]

And again, it's close enough that it doesn't matter

Know your combos and don't faceroll on your keyboard and your dps should be fine

[outer mural]

yeah i'm not trying to dismiss your question but every answer has been 'play what you want'

[spiral mango]

i see

[outer mural]

it would only matter at the tip top end of optimized speedkills

[spiral mango]

DRK it is

[outer mural]

and if you were doing that

you wouldn't be asking here

[spiral mango]

id still like an answer

[quartz comet]

#endgame-lounge

[outer mural]

the answer had been given multiple times

[spiral mango]

aha

[warm snow]

The answer is it doesn't matter

[outer mural]

play what you want

it doesn't matter

[warm snow]

!faq meta

[zinc orbit]

How FFXIV's Meta Works

All jobs are good and viable in all content. The difference between meta and non-meta is minor, to the point that player skill is a significantly more important factor. Play what you enjoy/what interests you most, and you can make it work.

[quartz comet]

Or you can go to the balance discord

[outer mural]

you could also just

end up hating DRK

[quartz comet]

They have calculate most min max tank

[outer mural]

like i tried to main SAM and now i hate that class because of how unfun its rotation is to me personally

[quartz comet]

In very specific end game

[warm snow]

[outer mural]

we could tell you answers all day but the only way to figure out if you like a class is to try it

RDM is my current main and I didn't even consider it until a year into playing the game

[warm snow]

Plds still my favourite tank

And after getting both mounts on it I really don't like drk

[outer mural]

yeah. i don't like PLD rotationally so I just avoid it like the plague despite enjoying levelling it

[patent citrus]

all I care about in tank is their IR window and I hate resource management so...

[warm snow]

Not to mention that what's best and not is a total crap shoot from November to basically 2022

[patent citrus]

unga bunga fell cleave and triple burst strike sound effect it is

[outer mural]

yeah in 2 months this conversation may as well just not have happened

they could change so many mitigation tools that my previous assessment doesn't matter

[quartz comet]

Also it wont matter anyway since you have 56 day before endwalker

And until christmast

[patent citrus]

to me delirium and crit confeitor is less satisfying >.>

[warm snow]

Aka: lol fuck pokemon day

[quartz comet]

Then we will know which tank is the best again at 2022

[runic cairn]

huh?

[warm snow]

The diamond and pearl remakes come out the same day as Endwalker, but fuck em

[runic cairn]

oh lol

i had no idea

[twilit arch]

[warm snow]

Or: after an expansion is released balance is kinda fucky

And using data from release everything gets tweaked when savage releases

[outer mural]

Balance will be theorycrafting for weeks
People are already theorycrafting 2 minute samurai loops

[patent citrus]

better stop before got deported to #video-games-general

[warm snow]

Which will be around christmas

[zinc orbit]

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[rough vault]

Ok I got a better version of my question which makes more sense

Beside dungeons/raids and classes

What is their to do in HW

[patent citrus]

new major thing I can remember is ishgard restoration

easy mode doh/dol leveling method

[rough vault]

Looked at it but the whole phase thing confuse me

[outer mural]

phase thing doesn' matter

[warm snow]

Relics, hildi brand, the scholasticate storyline

[outer mural]

you just do phase 4 stuff

not much to think about

[rough vault]

Are all DoH used in the restoration?

[warm snow]

Yes

[patent citrus]

yeah all dol/doh

[rough vault]

I really wanna finish weaver to make the jobs armor for doh/dol

[patent citrus]

sky fishing

[rough vault]

Need drip

[warm snow]

It can be used to level all crafters and the 2 non fishers

Honestly ocean fishing is just miles better for fsh levelling

[outer mural]

restoration is the best way to level crafters at a budget

[rough vault]

Exactly what I need

[outer mural]

even makes you some money if you're industrious with what you grab

[rough vault]

Since I also need to save money

[warm snow]

One base material and some grade 4 approved sky builder materials from the diadem

See the ishgard restoration section of your crafting log

It's in the second tab

[rough vault]

U need to.unlock it first

Right?

Im not at it yet

[solemn jewel]

in HW u can also do sightseeing log and Alexander.

[rough vault]

(And not home to check)

[solemn jewel]

u get firmament after finishing HW

[outer mural]

yes you need to beat heavensward and then do some sidequest to unlock it

not long though

[rough vault]

Havent done any sightseeing loh

I just

Completely avoided that

[solemn jewel]

thats content then

[warm snow]

@outer mural diadem is 3.3

[solemn jewel]

unlock flying and get ur sweet stuff

[rough vault]

Flying?

For sightseing?

[warm snow]

For your mounts

[outer mural]

[solemn jewel]

its easier to get to the spots if u can just fly everywhere

[rough vault]

Good point

But like
I wanted to do

[outer mural]

feels like they should've just made a second, fancier ishgard instead of the firmament

[rough vault]

One sightseeing log

In gridania

And gave up

So I gave up

[outer mural]

sightseeing =/= aether currents btw

[rough vault]

On all the others

[outer mural]

sightseeing is side content

most it unlocks are some titles and paintings

[solemn jewel]

they're asking for stuff to do in HW

[warm snow]

Sightseeing is a lot less bullshit after arr

[outer mural]

yeah

it's not timed and is marked

[warm snow]

That's where you're wrong kiddo

There are still timed nodes

[outer mural]

ya i just wanted to make the distinction it's not super important

[rough vault]

Like
I tried thag sightseeing log near the leatherworker guild

[warm snow]

They're just few and far between

[outer mural]

no wait you 're right

[rough vault]

Something how about climbing it

[outer mural]

there was an annoying one in ruby sea i remember

[rough vault]

Or something

[spiral mango]

how does one use Gil in the endgame ?

[warm snow]

Marketboard

Show off mounts

[patent citrus]

glamour

[warm snow]

Housing

Glamour

[rough vault]

Im saving fot appartement

At level 50

[warm snow]

Can't get apartment on trial btw

[rough vault]

Base edition

Not free

[warm snow]

Ah

[solemn jewel]

Housing (savage)

[warm snow]

In that case an fc house room is 200k less

[outer mural]

i would only get an apartment if you intended to decorate it

[warm snow]

And the exact same size

[outer mural]

many apartments go undecorated