questions-and-help

[faint flare]

20 hours total shorter

[tulip zephyr]

is Shire gear enough to go through Stormblood to next tomestone gear?

[green grail]

it went from 100 quests to 80something, plus a lot of them got streamlined

[lime trellis]

Nuts are for Deepshadow gear right

[faint flare]

Like ironworks, it lasts 5 levels

All poetic gear lasts 5 levels

[warm snow]

Only to 64/64 ish you'll get 290 ilevel gear for beating your job quest

[faint flare]

290

[warm snow]

And that should get you through 4.0 to unlock poetics gear there

[zinc orbit]

Automated Message: A Friendly Moogle Reminder

This channel is for new or returning players to ask questions about Final Fantasy XIV. As a reminder this channel is a troll free and an off-topic free zone. For general discussion please use #general-discussion or #beginner-lounge. <@&473626701947994134> are available to help in this channel. Thank-You, Kupo!

[hollow violet]

I was told drop rates have changed for them - are fates still the best way to farm the 20 memories of 3 types for the relic or should I do skirmishes now?

[faint flare]

Those haven't been changed

Only step that hasn't been nerfed

Cluster farming is still faster in a group

Fate if solo

[hollow violet]

Thanks, just finished one relic last week so I'm looking forward to the shortened process for the next lol

[faint flare]

They nerfed loathsome and vexing/haunting

[tulip zephyr]

the 70 lvl one?

[twin tree]

For someone who is halfway through ShB... how is end game content? Is it fun, challenging?

[leaden ginkgo]

!daily

[zinc orbit]

Tick, Tock, Kupo!

Time Until Daily Reset:

55 minutes, 38 seconds

[faint flare]

Yes

[hollow violet]

One more question and I'll leave you alone for a bit! Where can I find an iLvl 510 weapon outside of exarchic or relic? Trying to get to 510 so I can start attempting raids on this job

[faint flare]

You get 520 weapon via revelation

Need 4 blades from e12 and 1k revelation

For a cryptlurker weapon

Then can augment via nier coins to 530 now

[hollow pelican]

For farming "X memory of the dying", it's in the 3 zones of the sourthern front, right?
Do I have to clear fates and CE, right?

[faint flare]

Farm mobs

In bojza for those

Fates and ces have a poor drop for them

[hollow violet]

is there an alternative to revelation? I didn't know that was an option since Aymark doesn't have weapons! But ideally I'll save the rev tomes for armor

[hollow pelican]

Random mobs?

[faint flare]

Yes

[hollow pelican]

Like nimrods?

[faint flare]

Usually magitek to double dip clusters

Join a cluster farm group

[hollow pelican]

Alright, thanks

[faint flare]

Case and point

[leaden ginkgo]

What’s the best way to level alt jobs? Idk it’s not really alt job but I just got my first job to lvl45 and I lowkey wanna switch mains.

[faint flare]

!faq altlvlguide

[zinc orbit]

Leveling Guide for Alt jobs 🍻

Level 1 to 70 in five days (Stormblood)

[ivory olive]

Before I make a mistake, I have a question:
I started the free trial on Steam. This mean that I can't buy a Complete Edition key from Square Enix at the current 60% discount and activate it on my existing account, right?

[faint flare]

Only steam

Youre locked

[lime trellis]

Steam Yikes

[ivory olive]

I guess I'll have to hope that the discount makes it's way to steam then

[warm snow]

It wont

[faint flare]

Steam sale already past

[warm snow]

There was just a steam sale

And it's gone

[leaden ginkgo]

so many square enix sales lmao

and i bought the game when there wasnt one

[faint flare]

Bit surprising

[ivory olive]

well, guess I won't be going past 60 then

[leaden ginkgo]

@faint flarethat alt leveling guide
step 1: make a friend.. yeah im out xD

[faint flare]

It's a joke

[warm snow]

Or getting into the game, more than likely

[leaden ginkgo]

Do I get anything special from hitting level 50? I’m not lookin to play my current job anyway so I just ditch it now or hit 50 for heavensword

[faint flare]

Nope

[warm snow]

Your job gear

And a locked skill

[faint flare]

Unless you own the game for stormblood jobs

[warm snow]

EVERYTHING is locked behind main story progress

So your current level means basically nothing unless it's in relation to msq

[leaden ginkgo]

Bet

[fickle radish]

whats the highest posssible ilevel for lvl 60? referring to when u sync down to a lvl 60 fate

[warm snow]

270

[fickle radish]

i see, thanks

[astral field]

Whats the best logos action to use in pyros for solo levelling?

[faint flare]

Reflect

Cause you can reflect farm sprites

To power level

[sleek fox]

Sorry if this is a redundant question, but how should I go about finding a party for the Coils of Bahamut? I would really like to go through it since I heard it enhances the story/it looks fun to play through, but I also feel bad putting an unsync request (which is recommended on the wiki) on party finder knowing that I'd likely be dead weight as I'm only lvl 54 and haven't finished 2.5
Is there a proper etiquette to go about this/am I overthinking it?

[faint flare]

Coils isn't a spoiler

[sleek fox]

Oh great

[faint flare]

Raid names aren't spoilers

[sleek fox]

Thanks;;

[robust crow]

lots of things are only spoilers with context

[stable grail]

do you really need Tank LB3 for Teraflare on bahamut fight on turn13 at last phase? While standing in neurolink isnt that also a damage mitigation?

[faint flare]

Yes

[warm snow]

If youre synced, yes

[wispy finch]

87 more quests till shadowbringers 😓

[split viper]

Is it possible to solo the EX HW trials for the Lanner mounts (as WHM)? or am I better off holding my friends at gunpoint to get them to go bird hunting

[rancid flume]

hey guys. i have the free trail version. I just hit 50. I think im going to get the game and the new expansion....but i dont know what versions i need to play

[heavy wadi]

I’d do it with others, solo’ing those can often be time consuming and not all of them can be solo’d

[faint flare]

Bismark and ravana Yes, others are more suited to be soloed as PLD or warrior

Best get some others

Especially for sephriot

[split viper]

god I wish I leveled a PLD before I lost the xp buff

[leaden ginkgo]

how long takes get cronus lux (275 anima relic) from 0?

[robust crow]

i don't think WHM can solo bismarck

[split viper]

Do you mean expansions? Because in that case you'd wanna buy Shadowbringers

[robust crow]

the key to soloing bismarck is being able to dumpster one of the dragon adds in under like 10 seconds

since as soon as they get too close, they tether and can't die anymore

[split viper]

Like
Versions? It depends on like
Whether you want to buy and pay through steam or mogstation

[near pewter]

how do i get totem drops from extreme trials, is it only later trails, i been grinding howling eye and striking tree and not had any

[rancid flume]

yea. expansion. do i need all of them to be able to play endwalker?

[faint flare]

Expansion extremes drop totems

[near pewter]

thank you

[faint flare]

Arr don't cause they don't have the pity totem system

[near pewter]

can u still buy them mounts with totems

[split viper]

Well, it works like wow where if you buy the latest expansion, you get the rest!
The caveat here is preordering endwalker won't get you the rest now, only when it releases (so if you preordered it now, on release you'd get the rest)

Complete edition is the one you want

[white ridge]

is it bad if i skip the post arr 2.2 story?

i find it boring

[split viper]

But like if you want to play the game and be able to like jump into endwalker, you're gonna wanna buy Shadowbringers now

[digital zenith]

how do I enter dungeons as blu mage?

can I solo it?

[humble mason]

Does duty roulette just give you a flat bonus to exp and money gained?

[rancid flume]

thanks @split viper thats what i needed to know

[warm snow]

It's unfortunately important

[unkempt hull]

are the lanner / pony mounts higher drop chance than the dogs?

[warm snow]

It is drag but its worth it

[warm snow]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[robust crow]

it gives you a scaling amount based on your level

[split viper]

i believe the pony drops are 20% last i checked?

unsure of the other two

[faint flare]

The same rate

[warm snow]

Drop rng is calculated server side

No way of knowing actual rates short of hacking the servers

[unkempt hull]

seems like I see the ponies way more than all the others

[faint flare]

That's rng

[warm snow]

That's cuz they can be soloed/killed faster

[faint flare]

They're all the same rate now

[cedar dune]

Anyone knows how long the store sale usually lasts? (the NA store has the complete edition for sale atm)

[warm snow]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[faint flare]

https://www.siliconera.com/final-fantasy-xiv-digital-editions-on-sale/

[digital zenith]

how do I solo a dungeon?

where is the option

[faint flare]

August 18th apparently

[faint flare]

!faq unsync

[zinc orbit]

How to do Group Instances by Yourself or Without Enough People

In your duty finder window select the ⚙️ icon on the top left to open up the duty finder settings window.
Inside that window select the setting undersized party before confirming and entering the instances of your choice. NOTE: UNSYNC-ING AN INSTANCE WILL FORFEIT ALL OF YOUR EXP AND COMPLETION REWARDS. Poetics from a first time completion bonus and loots chests remain the same and will not be lost. You may not queue for daily roulettes using this method.

Image URL: https://i.imgur.com/A89hsAL.png

[cedar dune]

oh sweet. Thanks!

[faint flare]

You will need to be significantly overlevelled and geared to avoid dying

[heavy wadi]

^^

[digital zenith]

oh I did it

[heavy wadi]

you can’t solo dungeons at level

[digital zenith]

I wanted to level BLU

I guess I can't

[faint flare]

You don't level in dungeons

For blue

[heavy wadi]

you level by killing overworld monsters

[digital zenith]

I need the tam tara deepcroft mind blast

[heavy wadi]

and you need more spells to do dungeons anyways

[digital zenith]

how do I get mind blast then?

[faint flare]

Ignore job quests for now

Get power levelled to 70

Then do them

[heavy wadi]

follow this guide https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/m6utdr/blu_solo_leveling_or_how_i_learned_to_stop/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

that’s what I did

[digital zenith]

oh ty

[split viper]

my friend power leveled me to 60
i just threw a fish at enemies and he obliterated them

[kind bronze]

Is there any change that SE will refund the difference now that they randomly have a sale that is not announced, nor on their website.

[faint flare]

No

[kind bronze]

goddamnit

[inland zenith]

Is there any chocobo racing guide?

[vestal nest]

SO where do you check your referral status if you refereed people?

[kind bronze]

Just bought the game last week, fuck that shit, just as i started to like them

[split viper]

do you demand refunds of every game you buy and then there's a sale?
or product for that matter

[upper wren]

I asked my cc company but i dont think they do prife protection on software sadly

[near pewter]

does each boss drop a different totem, or can u farm any for 99

[upper wren]

Within 14 days? Yes

[kind bronze]

I would refund and rebuy, but im afraid they will just lock up my game

[heavy wadi]

each boss has its own totem

[kind bronze]

Within a certain timeframe, yeah

[upper wren]

Most things you can just return. But ffxiv is a digital code unfortunately.

[near pewter]

oof

[faint flare]

All different

Once you revealed your code for the gamr you can't be refunded

End of

[kind bronze]

yeah, still they should be able to man, their finance shit is so crap, its hard to even buy something from them

[upper wren]

Yeah i dont need 25 bucks bas enough to risk losing acct over refund bullshit haha

[kind bronze]

yeah , its not perse about the money, its the feeling and lack of care

Its not even announced on the website

[inland bloom]

For the Change of Arms quest for the Resistance weapon, is it quicker to do Bozjan Critical Engagements or Crystal Tower?

[split viper]

i feel like its just unlucky

[kind bronze]

Its just discounted in the store

[faint flare]

If you could refund after revealing the code then resellers can exploit iy

[upper wren]

I got my moneys worth dont get me wrpng but its very feelsbad to pay full price in the literal like two weeks between two 60% off sales

[kind bronze]

yeah, but I bought the CE full edition, and now its like, wtf

[kind bronze]

How, i applied the code, they have my billing order, just refund it lol

[heavy wadi]

afaik there aren’t many mmos that let you refund the game to rebuy for a sale price

[upper wren]

It would hurt less if the sale wasnt fucking 60% lol

[kind bronze]

Steam allows it

[spiral inlet]

whjat do these actually do?

[tranquil oriole]

why isn't there hard or extreme of odin?

[kind bronze]

jup, and so random, last sale was july 9, how the fuck was i supposed to know a sale would come now lol

[faint flare]

Charge backs and shit

And get banned instantly

[kind bronze]

Then lock the account

If I contact support, they should be able to see purchase date and amount paid

and they can invalidate the codes used, really shouldnt be this hard

[faint flare]

That's their ruling

Suck it and #rants

[earnest tapir]

Hey, is there a way to hide earings?

[kind bronze]

Just as I thought they were better than blizzard

Atleast blizzard gives refunds lel

[split viper]

Emperor's new earrings!

[heavy wadi]

glamour the emperor’s new earrings

[earnest tapir]

Are they from the marketplace?

[split viper]

You can buy em on the marketboard for cheap

[earnest tapir]

thank you

[upper wren]

It wasnt july 9, i bought on july 9

[kind bronze]

june 9 *

sorry

[mossy moss]

how the fuck does triple triad work with all these random rules xD

[upper wren]

I dont regret it. Just mad that theyre doing a dale so soon.

[cosmic pilot]

So in PSN store, Endwalker expansion stated it’s for PS4 and PS5 but there’s a warning that it says only playable on Ps5. Is it safe to purchase?

[faint flare]

Yes

[split viper]

also lol at the blizzard comment
its unlucky that that happened man. but this stuff happens sometimes

and i mean with the spike in popularity thats probably why haha

[heavy wadi]

#rants

[civic spoke]

Does anyone do memoria misera anymore? I just want to be able to dye my job gear

[cosmic pilot]

Thanks 😄

[kind bronze]

Yeah regret is a strong word, but the sale feels out of place

Soon, not announced, very weird

[upper wren]

Its to catch the asmonbabies

Alas...

[kind bronze]

but atleast fucking announce it or something lol

If you check their website now, its not even on a blog post or anything

While other sales were

[split viper]

move to #rants

[warm snow]

Makes sense actually, trial players get the shaft in queues now to combat absurd player growth, buuuut if you buy the game you get normal queues

[leaden ginkgo]

Uhm , is Dancer as inconsistent as some ppl make it seem? Like heavily based on rng ?

[warm snow]

They still suck but you won't get kicked

[warm snow]

Not really

[leaden ginkgo]

I’m leveling my first dps job and idk ninja & Dancer seem so cool idk which to try n learn first lol

[warm snow]

!faq meta

[zinc orbit]

How FFXIV's Meta Works

All jobs are good and viable in all content. The difference between meta and non-meta is minor, to the point that player skill is a significantly more important factor. Play what you enjoy/what interests you most, and you can make it work.

[civic spoke]

I’ve seen some dps lists, and dnc is often the top rpds

[heavy wadi]

it’s based on procs but that doesn’t make it “inconsistent” no

[warm snow]

Dancer is also locked behind shadowbringers

[split viper]

dancer is fine its a weaker DPS but its like a support DPS and very fun

[upper wren]

Not heavily but you will definitely have periods where everything lights up and periods where you press tbe buttons six times in a row without s proc and question if its really 50%

[split viper]

this but also RDM sometimes

[civic spoke]

You can force procs with rdm though

[upper wren]

Been leveling dancer so ama

[split viper]

"why am I not procing ver stone? excuse me square enix"

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh right so I can’t get it from the get go nvm

[warm snow]

!faq expacjobs

[leaden ginkgo]

Ty all for being so helpful : )

[zinc orbit]

Expansion Jobs and How to Unlock Them

Heavensward Expansion Jobs: Dark Knight (Tank), Astrologian (Healer), and Machinist (Ranged DPS). These jobs start at level 30 and require completion of the level 50 main scenario quest 'Before the Dawn'.
Quest Unlock Locations:
Dark Knight - Pillars(13,8).
Astrologian - Pillars(15,10).
Machinist - Foundation(8,10).

Stormblood Expansion Jobs: Red Mage (Caster DPS) and Samurai (Melee DPS). These jobs start at level 50 and require ownership of the Stormblood Expansion and a disciple of war or magic job at level 50.
Quest Unlock Locations:
Red Mage - Ul'dah(14,17).
Samurai - Ul'dah(9,9).

Shadowbringers Expansion Jobs: Gunbreaker (Tank) and Dancer (Ranged DPS). These jobs start at level 60 and require ownership of the Shadowbringers Expansion and a disciple of war or magic job at level 60.
Quest Unlock Locations:
Gunbreaker - New Gridania (11,11).
Dancer - Limsa Lominsa Lower Decks (9,12).

[heavy wadi]

you can force some procs with dnc too so

[upper wren]

To get a full proc chain its like... 50% then 50% so 25% of the timw you should get a proc into fans into fan 3

But... lmao!

At least u got flourish

[split viper]

i love that the game tells me what buttons to press as DNC instead of me using my brain

[leaden ginkgo]

Seems like some ppl believe that there really isn’t a gap between dps jobs and that they’re all similar in dmg/sec but others do not believe so

[rich raft]

how do i level at lv46 my story and job quest need lv 50?

[leaden ginkgo]

Heard the “ Summoner & BLM the best DPSes “ one too many times

[hidden lagoon]

Do crafting/gathering jobs have bonus exp when you have one of them lvled up to 80 like combat jobs?

[robust crow]

there is less than 10% difference between top and bottom DPS among the top 5% of players

so whoever is saying there's a big gap

ignore them, they're stupid

any DPS is fine and viable

[leaden ginkgo]

Bet tysm

[robust crow]

summoner and BLM are good DPS

BLM has the caveat that if you want to be great DPS you have to play it very well, which can be hard

summoner has the caveat that your pet is dumb as fuck

[finite stream]

With the squadrons how do we change their combat type? as in Offensive/Defensive etc? have them all ready to go but yeah how do i change their playstyle? For Command missions i mean

[leaden ginkgo]

I saw some clips I didn’t like how with BLM u gotta stay in your buff aoe thingy

[heavy wadi]

the “gap” between dps is like, maybe 1-5%

[stable grail]

what was max pvp rank level?

[heavy jewel]

Is 8 players the biggest party size or are raids bigger?

[twilit arch]

interact with your squadron member to change their tactics

[robust crow]

8 man teams are the standard raid size

[finite stream]

Ohh i see thanks! 😄

[robust crow]

only alliance raid content takes 24 people but those are casual

so 8 is effectively the way to go

[civic spoke]

Roulettes, dungeons, etc

[leaden ginkgo]

Weird question , so Uhm. Will item levels matter when new expansion drops? Like if I wanna be able to do the new content asap should I go for higher item levels or level alt jobs so I can have a heal and dps?

[split viper]

alliance raids are great
my fav is the nier raid where if you scuff a mechanic you delete another alliance

[heavy jewel]

What’s an alliance raid and why is it casual?

[robust crow]

literally doesn't matter

you just need to be max level and caught up with story to start the expansion

your item level is irrelevant

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh bet ty

[split viper]

24 man raid that is split into 3 groups of 8, and usually not that difficult

if you dont know mechs, its a bit uh. rough
but other than that its not like savage which can really slap you around

[robust crow]

one addition to this: individual skill is far more important than class choice

[green grail]

basically 24mans have easier mechanics than they can implement in 8man raids, because less people means you can give everyone more personal responsibility

[robust crow]

you're gonna do way more damage on a class that you are personally good at

[leaden ginkgo]

Do some jobs require more skill than others?

[robust crow]

yes

DNC, RDM, and WHM are widely considered the easier classes in the game

[leaden ginkgo]

I’m guessing melee jobs require more skill then?

[robust crow]

not necessarily

DRG and NIN are widely considered to be relatively easy

[split viper]

the only caveat is that you need to pray they go where they should and thats a tall order hahahah

[leaden ginkgo]

I don’t really get why we got melee jobs they seem more risky than ranged. Would expect more dmg

[robust crow]

hardly

that's just a misconception from people who don't raid

ranged and melee have their own individual challenges

[heavy jewel]

Nin doesn’t seem easy gotta push 4 buttons for 1 skill lol and remember the orders

[robust crow]

no, ninja is widely considered the easiest and most flexible melee

[leaden ginkgo]

Could u elaborate please? Comin from another MMO a lot of things do seem to be different with FF

[robust crow]

just because it presses a lot of buttons doesn't mean it's hard

[heavy jewel]

It kinda does

[leaden ginkgo]

ranged non-casting dps jobs have it easier in dealing with mechanics than melee

This guy on YT said u gotta use more brain cells for ninja cause u got many jutsus😭

[robust crow]

that guy is wrong

jutsus are fucking easy

[heavy wadi]

you have a lot of jutsus but you don’t use that many of them

[robust crow]

like I keep saying, ninja is widely considered the easiest melee

[upper wren]

Nin brings utiliry, sam literally is #1 dps, drg is #4 with a buff

[heavy wadi]

and just remember by color, do a bit of practice and you get the muscle memory down

[upper wren]

Monk is in all boss kills in top 10

[leaden ginkgo]

sam seems easier than ninja

[heavy jewel]

Not as easy as a single button press like most classes

[robust crow]

ofc it's opinionated but most people don't think so

[tranquil oriole]

what's the best way to farm poetics besides daily roulettes?

[wispy finch]

@fresh mesa im almost done

[leaden ginkgo]

I’d say most would consider ninja to not be the easiest. It is a lower gcd and some of the highest actions per minute in analysis on average

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh so NIN’s basically a melee bard? Small dmg with buffs?

[brave umbra]

Not sure if this is right place to ask: since FFXIV is now on sale, can I buy complete collector's edition and use it to upgrade my standard edition which I already have? Buing upgrades separately through mogstation is 2x more expensive

[upper wren]

Nin isnt dmall dam either

It just has a raid dmg buff iirc

[heavy wadi]

nin has a burst window where you need to just use everything, essentially

[robust crow]

physical ranged (dancer bard machinist) have it generally the easiest due to having infinite mobility, but they do slightly less damage than the other DPS as a result

casters (redmage summoner blackmage) need to deal with cast times or positioning requirements (RDM and BLM) or pet ai being shit (SMN)

melee have infinite mobility anywhere within melee range of the boss, but have to deal with positionals

[heavy wadi]

they can do a lot of damage

[robust crow]

NIN has a gap closer that resets all the time

so they have the highest mobility of all melees

[leaden ginkgo]

Do people care about DPSes jobs when raiding? Like when u guys wanna do ultimate or sum do u be like “ oh we don’t want a bard or *** “ ? Or are they all useful in some ways

[robust crow]

if you are looking at ultimate

you might consider comp a tiny bit

but it doesn't really matter

you don't want to bring duplicate classes

that's really the only issue when making a raid comp in ffxiv

[leaden ginkgo]

It seems to be an ironclad informal rule in ffxiv to never criticise someone for playing the job they like

[robust crow]

your comp does not matter unless you are trying for world first speedkills

[heavy jewel]

Are raids in this game big difficult dungeons or only harder trials?

[leaden ginkgo]

Tysm this makes so much sense rn

[fresh mesa]

[robust crow]

dungeon difficulty is nonexistent

the only hard content in the game is in 8 man raids

between extreme, savage, and ultimate

[zinc orbit]

Automated Message: A Friendly Moogle Reminder

This channel is for new or returning players to ask questions about Final Fantasy XIV. As a reminder this channel is a troll free and an off-topic free zone. For general discussion please use #general-discussion or #beginner-lounge. <@&473626701947994134> are available to help in this channel. Thank-You, Kupo!

[upper wren]

Even then a lot of first kills in savage have dual.monk... lol

[robust crow]

show me some

[heavy jewel]

Wtf you mean not difficult everything is difficult the first time through unless you follow guides which is boring

[obsidian garden]

how do you get company seals

[leaden ginkgo]

What’d you do if you wanted to like understand game mechs and get to end game as quick as possible? I’ve always been end game elite running but i finally quit that MMO cause its not as challenging. i dont wanna duty finder and be that one guy who's holding group back or makin it slower for them

[robust crow]

it really isn't

you can literally die 50 times in any normal content

[heavy jewel]

It really is

[robust crow]

and you will still clear

because there's no DPS check and rezzes are infinite

[robust crow]

it's designed to be casual content

for virtually anyone to be able to clear

[heavy jewel]

Die 50 times means easy still to you?

[wispy finch]

im a god at doing courses

[robust crow]

yes

lmao

[wispy finch]

: >

[fresh mesa]

Your course started on my bday lmao

[twilit arch]

#beginner-lounge @wispy finch @fresh mesa

[wispy finch]

awh

HAPPY BDAY

oh wait

ths isnt

oh

im sorry

[robust crow]

getting scraped off the floor 50 times with virtually no consequence to your mistakes

is easy

[fresh mesa]

wait why am i here

ohh

[robust crow]

because you can still clear in the end

[heavy jewel]

It’s only easy if you never die

[upper wren]

@robust crow wait is this the fflogs dymbol for melee dps

https://www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings/38

[leaden ginkgo]

When’s Endwalker dropping?

[twilit arch]

nov 23

[heavy wadi]

nov 23

[robust crow]

that means there are 2 melees in the comp lmao

not 2 monks

[upper wren]

I c

[heavy wadi]

nov 19 is early access

[leaden ginkgo]

Early access or for everyone?

[heavy wadi]

if you preorder

[twilit arch]

for everyone

[robust crow]

fflogs sorts it by melee, physical range, and caster

[upper wren]

U can forgive me i hope, its literally a fist

[twilit arch]

early access is 19th

[leaden ginkgo]

Bet thank u

[upper wren]

Haha

[robust crow]

you can see the #1 cloud of darkness clear was SAM/DRG/RDM/DNC

[green grail]

the fist means melee dps

its used ingame for like role actions iirc

[upper wren]

DNC AND SAM have most parses yeah

[heavy jewel]

No one answered, are raids like big dungeons similar to wow or just instances single boss fights?

[twilit arch]

single instance fights

[robust crow]

no one likes clearing trash

[heavy jewel]

Ugh that’s upsetting

[robust crow]

so ff14's raids are all single bosses

[leaden ginkgo]

Which requires more skill SAM or NIN?

[twilit arch]

the alliance raids are more similar to wow's raids, in that theyre big zones with multiple bosses

[robust crow]

most people are going to tell you SAM

[heavy jewel]

It’s fun seeing all the cool rooms and mini bosses

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh I was gon ask so would u say single target matters more than aoe on FFXIV in general?

[upper wren]

And no run back dude

Ffxiv respect for ur time is so unreal compared to wow lmao

[robust crow]

depends on the boss, but overwhelmingly they're all single bosses

occasionally some bosses have 2 or more targets

[leaden ginkgo]

Factsssss😭😭

[robust crow]

none this tier though

last tier, one boss had a phase where it splits into 2

[leaden ginkgo]

Ty

[warm snow]

Don't forget yoshi p encouraging players to unsub if they're bored and want to play something else until a new patch

[robust crow]

in those cases, strong cleave classes like summoner or bard shine

smn/bard multidot and their damage goes way up

[upper wren]

Gwnuine honesty is nice for sure

Is dnc considered a strong cleaver

Its hard to tell because ot hits everything basically but with big down damage

[robust crow]

dnc is probably in the higher end of 2-target damage

[warm snow]

Dude wrote a letter explaining why we ain't getting new servers in detail and taking responsibility for not being able to fix the current overloaded servers

[robust crow]

but like...that's a metric that really isn't important

[leaden ginkgo]

Hey so I bought a level boost and I wanna know how long does it take for it to show up in the delivery moogle? I've been logging in and out for about 2 hours and nothing is still there

[upper wren]

Well sorry i guess i mean aoe in general

[warm snow]

Dnc's 2 main hits are massive aoes but for raids where you fight 2 bosses at once brd will probably be. Better

[warm snow]

Shits on fire

[upper wren]

Can take minutes or hours

[heavy jewel]

The fun part in raids is getting to the final boss and seeing the dungeon design. Kinda lame if it just takes you to final boss

[leaden ginkgo]

?

[warm snow]

Page says allow up to 2 days for mogstation items

[woeful shadow]

Is there a way that we can hover over our skill and announce its cd time? idk maybe just a bit too much league

[vast ferry]

about how long would i take to complete arr if i read all the dialogue assuming my average of 100 pages per hour

[leaden ginkgo]

ohhhhh

well guess I gotta wait

[warm snow]

We are currently experiencing UNPRECEDENTED levels of new players so network infrastructure is under extreme strain

[upper wren]

Well, each boss is much better designed with layering mechanics that dont require timers, cutscenes, unique arenas, and specific boss themes to reflect the tempo of their fight.

[warm snow]

It shouldn't take a full 48 hours but they are covering their assets with that time frame

[upper wren]

Ill take that over castle nath anyday.

[leaden ginkgo]

Ya that makes sense. I keep getting stuck in queues

[warm snow]

See top pin for full details

[robust crow]

ff14 has a significantly higher emphasis on the design of the bosses themselves

compared to wow

[heavy jewel]

So it’s still enjoyable then?

[hardy scroll]

!faq buy

[zinc orbit]

How to buy the game

Click here for NA

Click here for EU

Click here for JP

Image by /u/Alimantado

[robust crow]

even though the current savage tier only has 4 bosses

[warm snow]

I mean multiphase bosses often have unskipple cutscenes in the middle but at most one per boss

[robust crow]

each boss is worth maybe 4 of wow's bosses in terms of mechanics and phases

[warm snow]

Very

[robust crow]

i was previously a mythic raider in WoW, FYI

ff14's raiding is way more enjoyable

[warm snow]

I only started Raiding this tier and I had a fucking blast

[robust crow]

although i haven't raided mythic since like, late legion and early BFA

[heavy jewel]

Are dungeons and trials and alliance raids still cool to do at least once?

[warm snow]

Yes

[robust crow]

yes, of course

additionally, since FF14 bosses are designed around 8 people and not 20

there's far more individual skill requirements than on wow

[upper wren]

Susano, not even endgame, is cooler than anything wow has done besides lich king

And i can assume it only gets better

[warm snow]

Less so the alliance raids from arr cuz they're the first swing at them

[warm snow]

Yes and no, few bosses are as flamoyantly loving the fight as susanoo

Although the final boss of stormblood hildi brand does surpass him imo

[upper wren]

Susano is so pog

[warm snow]

In terms of fights, seat of sacrifice the true final boss of shadowbringers (5.3) is just incredible

[mossy moss]

what does A mean in triple triad?

[upper wren]

Ill have to see when i get there

[warm snow]

Do not look it up because massive fucking spoilers

Like ENORMOUS SPOILS

[upper wren]

I enjoyed the SB spoilers ||chaos space marine at the end of dc||

[warm snow]

you want to see that shit for yourself

[robust crow]

A is the highest "number"

higher than 9

[warm snow]

Ace

Like playing cards

[mossy moss]

also how does Plus affix work

i don't understand it at all

[heavy jewel]

What I just did the hildebrand side quest with gilgimesh lmao

[mossy moss]

if it's touching more cards it does something

idk what the fuck it does or the conditions xD

[vast ferry]

thanks for pointing that out that cleared up a lot of my confusion with why they have to do the stuff with queues

[warm snow]

There's hildi brand quest lines in both heavensward and stormblood. The stormblood has a trial that's just a fucking blast

[warm snow]

Yoshi P is very forthcoming on this type of shit. We do not deserve him

[vast ferry]

indeed in my experience with gaming in general most of the time we don't get an explanation at all let alone a detailed one

[faint flare]

The Japanese and Yoshi in general are very respectable

[warm snow]

Lol no, have you met me

[faint flare]

You're a fake

Shhh

[heavy jewel]

Is everyone gonna be mad if I tank without looking up guides? I hate spoilers and like to try bosses blind a few times first

[warm snow]

[vast ferry]

a lot of companies seem to forget that by explaining why you have to do things you can placate a lot of people that would have been difficult otherwise including myself

[robust crow]

most sane people don't care and would actually encourage it

[warm snow]

On anything but extremes and savage content no

[twilit arch]

for dungeons/alliance/normal raids no

extreme/savage/ultimate, yes they will

unless you specifically join a group mentioning going in blind

[warm snow]

If you fail and people give tips

As long as you don't screech YOU DON'T PAY MY SUB

You'll be fine

[robust crow]

just don't be an asshole

and most people are cool

golden rule of life

[hardy scroll]

So if I wait until, let's say a day before endwalker comes out and I buy the starteredtition then prepurchase endwalker, I'll get all the expantions right?

At the cheapest price

[warm snow]

!faq buy

[robust crow]

!faq product

[zinc orbit]

How to buy the game

Click here for NA

Click here for EU

Click here for JP

Image by /u/Alimantado

[robust crow]

nice

[hardy scroll]

[warm snow]

Well clearly we have to fight to the death now

[hardy scroll]

Guess that's a yes

[robust crow]

[warm snow]

[hardy scroll]

Gonna have fun with trial for 4 months baby

[warm snow]

There's a "cheapest option" to get everything down at the bottom of the image

[hardy scroll]

Ye I read it

[spark silo]

hey guys, if I buy the base game on steam so I can play a bit past 50 and form groups and other stuff like that, do I lose the "free trial" status and have to start paying a sub fee as well? Or can i keep playing up to lvl 60 without a subscription?

[twilit arch]

yes

you cannot go back to free trial

[vast ferry]

about how long would i take to complete arr if i read all the dialogue assuming my average of 100 pages per hour on a novel

[heavy jewel]

Like I just did Garuda and titan extreme after I barely unlocked tank gunbreaker, was playing ninja but find controlling the enemy movements more fun. There was one guy that’s done it before acting like I should know what to do which was annoying

[hardy scroll]

What's with the plant next to my name

[spark silo]

i see, ty

[warm snow]

Baby indicator

New players are sprouts

[hardy scroll]

How do I remove it

[warm snow]

Plenty of potential but still need to grow

[robust crow]

fuck if I know exactly how much dialogue but many people spend between 30-60 hours in ARR + post ARR

[warm snow]

Get to shadowbringers

[hardy scroll]

Welp

[robust crow]

probably better to gauge by playtime than by pages per hour

[leaden ginkgo]

i need your help, can u tell me where can i find that clothes?

[warm snow]

It's not a bad thing. If anything it'll get you leeway if you mess up mechanics

[robust crow]

people who play 8 hours a day, 5 days a week can probably reach HW in 2 weeks

[warm snow]

Don't think so

[vast ferry]

fair enough lets say my reading pace is about 50% faster than the average person

[warm snow]

#glamour-discussion would know better

[hardy scroll]

Like anyone has the time for that....ahhahah...right?

[warm snow]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[robust crow]

again not a good metric, it's better to gauge by playtime

[barren valve]

When you are changing chat channel with commands for example from party to /fc is there a setting or something to make it stick to the changed channel? Because as it is right now it will go right back to party after sending this message and I have to keep typing /fc

[twilit arch]

chest/pants are miqo'te racial gear. gloves pretty sure are garo (which are unobtainable) and boots are from paradigm's breach (lv80 alliance raid)

[robust crow]

plan on 60 hours of playing to beat all of ARR

[vast ferry]

i think i play 6-10 hours a day

[warm snow]

Just do /fc with no message and it changes it

[spark silo]

and if i buy endwalker, do i also get access to shadowbringer stuff right now? Or would i have to wait for endwalker to officially release for shadowbringer to be "officially old content" so to speak so i get access to it?

[heavy jewel]

I’ve been skipping non voiced quests and reading the summary in journal instead

[leaden ginkgo]

@twilit arch tyvm for the answer, can u tell me where to get the racial gear?

[gritty oracle]

Are there multiseater horses other than the astrope?

[warm snow]

No not until Endwalker releases

[gritty oracle]

Bango Zango in Limsa and the black rabbit trader in gridania

[twilit arch]

can buy it from these 3 vendors @leaden ginkgo

[warm snow]

!faq buy

[zinc orbit]

How to buy the game

Click here for NA

Click here for EU

Click here for JP

Image by /u/Alimantado

[upper wren]

Cute peeposhy

[twilit arch]

you know that question could just be answered without pulling up the faq

[hardy scroll]

True!

[twilit arch]

no

[leaden ginkgo]

@twilit arch tyvm for the info! sad that i cant get gloves, i like them a lot

u know something similar?

[dark scarab]

are these like inside a dungeon? they are the grand company hunting log

[heavy jewel]

Should I prioritize gunbreaker instead of ninja since end walker will have a new dps but not tank?

[twilit arch]

yes they are inside the dungeon called cutter's cry @dark scarab

[heavy jewel]

Is gunbreaker pretty cool?

[spark silo]

thanks

[warm snow]

!faq meta

[zinc orbit]

How FFXIV's Meta Works

All jobs are good and viable in all content. The difference between meta and non-meta is minor, to the point that player skill is a significantly more important factor. Play what you enjoy/what interests you most, and you can make it work.

[warm snow]

Just play what you want

It really doesn't matter

[vast ferry]

how long are dps queue times for arr content atm

[dark scarab]

🤦‍♂️ my dumbass was searching the area for 20 minutes

[warm snow]

Depends on the dungeon and time of day

[strange knoll]

I completely forgot that Khloe's journal existed, is there another one of those for Shadowbringers or not?

[warm snow]

No but the rewards scale to your current level

You just keep getting khloe journals

[strange knoll]

Alright, I'll start doing it again every week

[vast ferry]

are sidequests worth it?

[onyx zodiac]

is most content post lvl 50 8 man raids rather than 4 man raids? If both my friend and I want to double up on tanks or healers would that be an issue?

[heavy jewel]

Is tank the most difficult role?

[warm snow]

Completion exp is half a level on whatever you you are when you turn in the journal

[warm snow]

No

[wide compass]

i accidentally discarded my wondrous journal fro this week, is there any way to get it back? :(

[warm snow]

If anything tanking is even easier

[warm snow]

I already told you no

[empty venture]

hey i wanted to ask were i could find a raid group for spezific raids. I want to clear bahamut and dont know where i should ask

[twilit arch]

dungeons are still 4 man, raids/trials are 8 man

[heavy jewel]

Is it healer tank then dps?

[strange knoll]

Oh so I can get lots of exp from that then, thanks. Haven't done it since Stormblood I think, I've been missing out

[vast ferry]

healer is the hardest role correct

[warm snow]

Aside from rsthalos ex, starting at level 50 all trials are 8 man

[wide compass]

sorry i didnt see the message

[robust crow]

no

[wide compass]

:(

[robust crow]

there is no "hardest" role

[onyx zodiac]

is there a good mix of both? like is most stuff trials or dungeons?

[warm snow]

More dungeons than trials

[leaden ginkgo]

Hey guys i already have a Summoner in Level 50 but im interested to Play the Ninja how long does it take to Level the Ninja up to level 50

[heavy jewel]

I mean which role needs to be most knowledgeable on raid mechanics?

[robust crow]

I'd say healers have higher responsibility but healers in general aren't hard to play

[robust crow]

literally all of them

[onyx zodiac]

gotcha ty

[warm snow]

Yes

[vast ferry]

then there are harder classes

[robust crow]

every single role has raid responsibilities

yes, I mentioned before some classes are harder than others

RDM, DNC, WHM are probably the 3 easiest classes to play

[warm snow]

Even if the main universal responsibility is still do dps and kill the fucker

[vast ferry]

what makes whm easy?

[robust crow]

being fucking braindead

that's what

[warm snow]

Just big healing payouts

[vast ferry]

sounds boring

[tranquil wolf]

what do i need to obtain and how do i get this weapon?

[warm snow]

Ast is way more complicated and sch plays proactively instead of reactively

[warm snow]

Craft it

[faint flare]

!faq zodiac

[zinc orbit]

Guide to the Zodiac Relic

Zodiac Relic Guide

[faint flare]

Have fun

[obsidian agate]

Remember when they forced everyone to log off in stormblood

[robust crow]

i personally wouldn't call it boring, whm is my favorite healer and it gets a little more complicated if you are trying to optimize

as do all classes

[obsidian agate]

Cause people where dodging afk timer

[warm snow]

That'll happen here too

[tranquil wolf]

ummm

[vast ferry]

generally i prefer complex classes even if i;m better a simpler ones

[warm snow]

It's the same afk timers they use when new expansions come out they just turned it on again

[shut panther]

the most difficult jobs to play mechanically are absolutely all DPS

[robust crow]

high end WHM gets complex because you're trying to figure out how you're going to plan movements

most WHMs don't care enough to optimize movement

[heavy jewel]

What’s your favorite roles? Dps healer or tank?

[warm snow]

Yes

[robust crow]

i prefer DPS and healing, personally

although paladin is fun as fuck

[vast ferry]

dps or healer depending on my mood

[shut panther]

Healers and tanks have more "responsibility" if you could call it that, though, typically

[warm snow]

I'm honestly getting a little sick of tanking but that's cuz I've been chipping away at the tank achievements

[leaden ginkgo]

Hey guys i already have a Summoner at Level 50 but im interested to Play the Ninja how long does it take to Level the Ninja up to level 50?

[heavy jewel]

I mean do any of the roles miss out on the majority of boss mechanics or participation?

[vast ferry]

sometimes i feel passive sometimes i feel aggressive depending on which i'm feeling i'll pick healer or dps respectively

[ocean sonnet]

Hi, can I buy the complete edition now and still play the free trial? I mean, buying the complete edition should grant me a code that I can register whenever I want without expiring right?

[warm snow]

Depends

[warm snow]

Unless you're on PlayStation

[twilit arch]

yes

[warm snow]

PlayStation applies purchases immediately and automatically

[ocean sonnet]

OOF

I'm on PS yeah, that's a bummer ç_ç

[twilit arch]

psn is automatic since you're linking your acct to mogstation

[warm snow]

F

[robust crow]

literally no

[shut panther]

Role targeting for mechanics is not uncommon

[fluid rapids]

hey guys. I'm trying to unlock the crystal tower raids to progress MSQ but the outlandish man isnt at X21.8 Y8.1 in revenants toll. I can't get "Legacy of Allag" started. What do I need to do at this point?

[vast ferry]

am i right that races are pretty much purely ascetic with minimal impact on game mechanics?

[ocean sonnet]

I still haven't started the free trial either, once I open the game I just have to log in with the SE account right? What about the mogstation?

[fluid rapids]

yes just cosmetic

[warm snow]

Have you finished the ultimate weapon?

[shut panther]

But typically aside from tank Busters which are obviously explicitly tank targeted there's not really a role that is doing less mechanics

[vast ferry]

is it possible to share appearance presets?

[warm snow]

It's all fun and games until your ot forgets to turn their stance on in e12s

[fluid rapids]

i cant tell because searching my completed quest log isnt working properly. I search key words for quests I know I've finished and they dont show up. Kind of frustrating

[twilit arch]

uhh not sure how exactly psn works tbh

[warm snow]

Can you fly?

[fluid rapids]

yes

[warm snow]

Then they should be there, is there any chance you already started the quest line and then stopped?

[ocean sonnet]

It's ok thanks for trying ahah, I'll try it out today anyway 🙂

[twilit arch]

Make sure you are capitalizing the words

[fluid rapids]

ah thats it

[twilit arch]

The search in the completed section of the journal is cap sensitive

[fluid rapids]

yeah ive finished ultimate weapon

[warm snow]

See above comment about half complete quest line

[fluid rapids]

im at "A Time to Every Purpose" right now but cant progress

[warm snow]

!quest a time to every purpose

[fluid rapids]

I've spoken to him but it's not in my quest log

[zinc orbit]

A Time to Every Purpose

Seventh Astral Era Main Scenario Quests | Required Level: 50

While others look forward to the impending royal banquet, Minfilia cannot help but look to the past.

Quest Starts At

Minfilia
The Rising Stones (X: 6.14 Y: 5.21)

Quest Ends At

Minfilia
Ul'dah - Steps of Thal (X: 11.12 Y: 11.63)

Required Quests

Ancient Ways, Timeless Wants
The Least among Us

Next Quests

Come, but Not Gone

Images of NPCS by Gamer Escape.

[twilit arch]

click on "chronicles of a new era" in the completed section

[fluid rapids]

my quest log is empty

[warm snow]

Oh damn, he's almost at the hook and everything

[twilit arch]

there's a drop down menu and one of them is "the crystal tower"

should look (somewhat) like this

[fluid rapids]

thats it!

[warm snow]

Are there any in the mor dhona zone but outside the city?

[fluid rapids]

I've got it. Thanks. I must have removed it from my duty list at some point

[warm snow]

Or just use that journal section with a list of the ct quests to find where you are there

[fluid rapids]

so i have completed legacy of allag

i guess duty finder for crystal tower now?

[warm snow]

No

[plain escarp]

Do the PSN and PC versions have to match? Like can you buy The Complete Ed on PS4 and just not goto Xpac places on PC until you purchase them there?

[warm snow]

Find the next quest in the ct questline

[heavy jewel]

Is healing mainly just staring at the party window most the time and applying shields in prep of an attack?

[faint flare]

No

It's DPSing

Until you need to heal

[fluid rapids]

kinda sucks that the game doesn't direct you towards this. how do I do that?

[shut panther]

Healing is like.. The polar opposite of wow, if that's your reference

[heavy jewel]

Don’t you always need to heal though lol

[warm snow]

The next quest is always a right where you finished the last one

[faint flare]

No

You.dont

Damage is predictable

And bursty

[fluid rapids]

Alright but if I'm not where that was how do I know where it is?

[warm snow]

Go https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Legacy_of_Allag and click next quest til you find one you haven't completed yet

[shut panther]

In level 80 dungeons as whm if I'm forced to use a healing spell it's because someone fucked up or is fucking up

Same applies to AST, really. I don't have sch experience.

[leaden ginkgo]

it is right that i gonna get more exp if im marriage

[warm snow]

To quote jocat, your job is not to heal, it's to keep the party alive and yes there's a difference

[fluid rapids]

alright ill go to those coordinates for "Sanding it Down" on the wiki

[heavy jewel]

Is healer the most relaxing role?

[faint flare]

When you know how healing works

Yes

[upper cove]

Definitely notn

[faint flare]

I just turn my brain off

[warm snow]

Subjective

[upper cove]

I turn my brain off playing dps

But yeah subjective

[robust crow]

do you do shit dps tho

[upper wren]

No most relaxing is tank lmao

[warm snow]

But if you're constantly healing in a dungeon you'll probably annoy the rest of the party, ESPECIALLY if you're a white mage

[fluid rapids]

ty for the help!!

[upper wren]

14 dps lvl 60 whm hell yeah

[shut panther]

If I really want to turn my brain off in a dungeon, I pick whm.

[robust crow]

cure 1 sound effect gives me ptsd

[upper wren]

My favorite healer.

[shut panther]

AST isn't quite as brain-dead

[plain escarp]

I've enjoyed tanking so far to my mighty level 33 and level synced 15-20 dungeons

[leaden ginkgo]

Do only tanks have job mounts?

[warm snow]

Pretty much

[leaden ginkgo]

; (

[robust crow]

WHM has a job mount

[shut panther]

But whm dungeon is "press holy then press holy some more"

[twilit arch]

unicorn

[upper wren]

Thoss job moubts seem like such a god damn pain

[warm snow]

Conjurer (the class) specifically gets a quest for a mount

But that's a weird outlier

[robust crow]

yeah unicorn i mean

right

[leaden ginkgo]

What’s a good mount to go for as a new player? So many mounts to get man

[warm snow]

A reward cuz they were the only healing class in arr, probably

[robust crow]

don't worry about "going" for mounts

[heavy jewel]

Which role usually has time in a fight to mark enemies?

[robust crow]

just do MSQ and worry about mounts later

[leaden ginkgo]

Bet

[robust crow]

when you see one you really like, then you can work toward it

[warm snow]

Worry about that when you're at endgame

You'll get a few mounts along the way regardless

[robust crow]

none of them have "time"

ffxiv philsopher is always be casting

[leaden ginkgo]

Ty

[robust crow]

you never want to stop casting in ff14

[warm snow]

Including a magitek armor that plays terras theme from ff6

[robust crow]

unlike wow where some classes stop actions to pool energy or save mana or whatever

[quaint halo]

i was wondering what was the distinctive differences between the healers were, i wanted to go astrologian but i heard it was bad ?

[robust crow]

not in ff14

[robust crow]

no class is bad

[warm snow]

!faq meta

[zinc orbit]

How FFXIV's Meta Works

All jobs are good and viable in all content. The difference between meta and non-meta is minor, to the point that player skill is a significantly more important factor. Play what you enjoy/what interests you most, and you can make it work.

[robust crow]

astrologian presses the most buttons out of the healers

[warm snow]

Ast is just complicated and fiddly

[robust crow]

and probably requires the most thinking

[warm snow]

I honestly don't like it

[heavy jewel]

Do you even run out of mana in this game lol?

[warm snow]

But a skilled ast is a monster

[robust crow]

you can, depending on situation

[twilit arch]

ast really isn't that complicated

[robust crow]

most healers will not run out of mana

in normal circumstances

ever

[warm snow]

If you're a black mage, yes deliberately, any other caster, yes if you're careless

[robust crow]

it's when you suddenly have a bunch of people die and you need to rez like 5 people

that's when your mana starts getting taxed

[quaint halo]

oohhhh i was looking to play more of a difficult healer bc im currently on conjurer atm

[warm snow]

I'm a red mage stop triggering me

[robust crow]

i bring super-ethers to all content

just in case

[warm snow]

[robust crow]

[upper wren]

There are at least two dps classes with this quirky shit though

Meditation and Improvisation

[robust crow]

well

not really

[twilit arch]

that's for downtime specifically

[robust crow]

you only use those skills during downtime

[warm snow]

Yes and no, you do that shit for downtime

When the boss is untargetable

[robust crow]

you never use them when there's something you can hit instead

[heavy jewel]

Do I need to worry about managing mana as melee or ranged dps? Non caster

[robust crow]

no

[warm snow]

Or in the case of dnc you start improv and immediately stop to continue dps but the heal buff still lasts for 5 seconds

[heavy jewel]

Or tank

[robust crow]

as melee you have to worry about your job gauge

but not mana

[upper wren]

Never.

[robust crow]

RDM and SMN never have mana issues either

[twilit arch]

pld/drk do use mana

but war/gnb do not

[warm snow]

Dark Knight and paladin use mp

[robust crow]

their DPS rotation is either mana positive or costs very little mana

[upper wren]

Only drk/pld and casters have mp costs even

[robust crow]

BLM deliberately spends and regenerates mana in its rotation

[warm snow]

And only drk needs to actually manage their mp

[heavy jewel]

Cool ty

[rain mural]

Quick question regarding Recruit a Friend. I did one of these long time ago, but I can't find a proper "Requirements and eligibility" list or anything like that

[warm snow]

Own the game but don't buy any sub time uet

That's the only time you can be "recruited"

[rain mural]

So my cousin started playing (still on F2P model), and I haven't played in over a year. I don't have an active sub at the moment, but do plan on getting back soon-ish (like a month or so). If he continues playing for like over a month, still as F2P. Can I recruit him later then?

[twilit arch]

you can recruit him when he upgrades to the full game

and when you have an active sub

[tardy tangle]

I just unlocked a relic reborn, but I just got Yagrush. is that a problem given that the effort could be worth nothing?

[rain mural]

Ok, so there is no time limit, or if he spends a long time playing the game or anything like that?

[copper plaza]

How do I stop combat with fighting dummy?

Striking dummy*

[robust crow]

oh, to elaborate further on AST, you very likely want to have a DPS meter running so you know who to put your cards on

[copper plaza]

I can't mount and battle music keeps blasting my ears

[twilit arch]

the only requirements to be recruited are: you own the game, and have yet to pay for a sub yet (i.e are still on your 30 days free from buying starter/complete edition)

[robust crow]

that's what requires the most thinking when playing AST imo

[twilit arch]

right click on the target bar

and select reset enmity

[copper plaza]

Oh thank god

You saved me

[warm snow]

Or press whatever the controller equivelnt of a right click is

I changed mine lol

[random spoke]

So what’s the deal with the preferred worlds if the MSQ is so important ..

Does the road to 70 buff go away after you ding 70 once ?

[tardy tangle]

Thyrus isn't even CLOSE to the same stats as the staff I have! Should I even try to get this quest done?

[robust crow]

no it persists for 90 days after character creation

you can use it for all classes, including crafters

[shut panther]

The arr relic is only useful for glamour

[random spoke]

Thank you.

[robust crow]

all relics that aren't the ShB ones are glam only

they have no use outside glam

[tardy tangle]

I mean, if it looks cool, I'll deal with it later

[robust crow]

so if that long ass fuckin ARR grind is worth the glam to you

then go for it

but being level 80 makes that grind faster

but be aware there's other relics too

would be sad if you got the ARR relic and didn't use it

[warm snow]

Relics are grindy fancy weapons that are eventually the best weapon of their expansion. Once a new expansion comes out they're only good for glamour

[shut panther]

They do typically look cool, but they're fairly large grinds and there's no shortage of cool looking weapons

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[random spoke]

@robust crow am I able to transfer to preferred server for the buff then transfer back ?

[upper wren]

Just get the ultimate weapobs forehead

[random spoke]

Or does “the road to 70” not apply to quest?

[raven sage]

road to 70 is for characters created on the preferred world

[twilit arch]

you cannot transfer to get the road to 70

its only for newly created

and there's no worlds on NA/EU datacenters that are preferred atm

[random spoke]

Is road to 70 ONLY exp from mobs ?

[twilit arch]

no

road to 70 applies to all sources of exp

[random spoke]

Gotcha

[upper wren]

I would clap so many alt jobs with that, earrings, rested, and armory bonus

My goodness

[random spoke]

Ya I just got my earrings so I was like …100% sounds good. But I don’t even have a 80 yet

[upper wren]

Same. 69 dnc and 66 gnb for me

[vocal gale]

How many weapons/coffers does E12S drop? Trying to decide if I want to learn that fight first, or grind out the Bozja relic, since I think I want to do both

I’m sure E12S farming will be way way faster

I’m in full 530 gear otherwise so it’s just a matter of learning mechanics

[twilit arch]

1 coffer and 1 actual weapon

[slate pulsar]

Uhm, the complete edition is on sale now and I wanna buy it - but why is there an option for PC and PC Download - which one responds to the square enix version ?

[vocal gale]

so that’ll take a while on average if I’m just PUGing I guess, unless I find a really good PUG

[twilit arch]

pc =physical

pc download =digital

they're both SE

[vast ferry]

are there no prefred servers anymore?

[twilit arch]

not for NA/EU

[slate pulsar]

oh thanks

[vast ferry]

that sucks so no more double xp

[leaden ginkgo]

bruh I bought the game yesterday and they put a sale today

is there any way to refund or something

[slate pulsar]

it said "shop maintenance" in the patcher

it was obvious so i waited haha

[vast ferry]

that sucks i bought it three days ago

[slate pulsar]

Can i just pay through paypal in the square enix store ?

[void vigil]

How often does SE send free game time to bring players back?

I quit like 3 years ago and haven’t seen anything

[drowsy pagoda]

how can i make a mouseover macro?

[astral field]

They dont send anything to players specifically... but they regularly do login campaigns

[leaden ginkgo]

it happens

[void vigil]

Wait is SB on sale today?!?

[leaden ginkgo]

😭

[vast ferry]

^ this

[lethal cape]

Which one is faster to farm?

Void Ark + Royal City or fates?

I heard they made it so you get x3 clusters instead of x1 in the raids now, but not sure how fast it is compared to fates

[wispy basalt]

Q in raid and while in q do fates

it will give you 3 per run Raid.

[lethal cape]

Oh I see, thank you ^^

[sour tapir]

is there a leveling chat or lfg for it? just wondering to see where i can ask for help on getting my blue mage to 70

[vocal gale]

I’ve seen some people do stuff like this for AST

the <mo> tag is for mouseover

[drowsy pagoda]

so i can do

[lethal cape]

Please don't o.o

[drowsy pagoda]

/ac Aetherial Manipulation <mo>

[vocal gale]

believe it works for both the party member UI and for hovering over targets

[drowsy pagoda]

like that?

[vagrant crescent]

When you summon your mount there's a time limit. Does the time limit continues when are not in the game, or no or does it reach 0 as soon as you leave no matter the time limit?

[vocal gale]

I personally do not, I don’t macro anything with AST, it’s just an example to answer the question

[vocal gale]

I think you would need quotes around the skillname but yeah

[lethal cape]

Yes, this is correct
Also make it 15 lines so it doesn't bug out

/macroerror off
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>
/ac "Aetherial Manipulation" <mo>```

[drowsy pagoda]

thank you

[lethal cape]

Np

[dawn cove]

how do u get the kettle mnk weapons?

[tropic junco]

So I started playing trial on Steam. I see the game is on sale on squenix webstore. Can I just download the standalone client, buy the game there and continue playing same character?

[deep oak]

if you start on steam you are unfortunately locked to steam 😦 But no matter! The game is the same

[drowsy pagoda]

is it not better to be on steam?

[tropic junco]

But the account is SEs? Cant I not login in the same account through standalone?

[spiral inlet]

is there a way to check your beast tribe currencies?

and you can exchange them?

[deep oak]

meh, you can sub w/ steam wallet. SE store has more sales. Kind of personal preference

[spiral inlet]

right?

[upper wren]

i thought steam trial accounts COULD transfer to squeenix

or is the other way around

[deep oak]

Othe rway around. SE free trials can buy it on steam then register a code

[upper wren]

gotcha

[hardy scroll]

Just finished the questline for rouge, I feel kinda empty now 😢 . When can I be ninja

[wanton niche]

just saw this one. are there more fantasias incoming or is this a one time thing?

[tropic junco]

Thats so stupid. I had to create a separate SE account from steam and I still cant switcg to standalone

[twilit arch]

one time

[spiral inlet]

@twilit archHow'd I get two

:x

[spark monolith]

where can i find someone to level with

[twilit arch]

Either heavensward CE or you played before they changed the veteran rewards

[wanton niche]

daym, okay ty!

[spiral inlet]

yheah! that was it

[tawdry sierra]

sorry for the super noobie question but how do i get miner? i'm in the beginning town still

[faint flare]

It's in uldah

Do story

[tawdry sierra]

okay thanks

[burnt bear]

This keeps happening when I try to start up the game. Has anyone got any experience getting past it?

[still gate]

@burnt bear replied to you in #technology-discussion

[leaden ginkgo]

what are these instances? the world of darkness/dun scaith/the cuff of the son/front line

[burnt bear]

Here's what I've tried so far:
Uninstalled and reinstalled
Turned off all firewalls and antiviruses
Uninstalled and reinstalled Steam
Altered the boot file
Turned off and on my laptop
Tried to use a 3rd party boot menu

[tawdry sierra]

when you hit level 60 as a trial member, can you still play while capped at level 60 or does the trial end?

[dark scarab]

how to unlock hunts?

[warm snow]

Play while capped

[boreal storm]

Frontline is PvP, cuff is HW 8-man, the other 2 are alliance raids

[tawdry sierra]

thanks kat specialist culinarian

[faint flare]

!faq hunts

[zinc orbit]

Allied/Clan Hunting Unlock Guide

'How do I unlock Hunts?'

ARR Hunts: Be 2nd Lieutenant in your Grand Company and complete the quest 'Let the Hunt Begin' located at your Grand Company. You can promote to 2nd Lieutenant by talking to the Personnel Officer and buying promotions for seals and by completing the GC Hunting Log and the quests 'Shadows Uncast' and 'Gilding the Bilious'. This must be done to unlock HW Hunts.

HW Hunts: Go to Ishgard - Foundation at x13, y11.9 and complete the quest 'Let the Clan Hunt Begin' from Aytienne. Followup quests are 'Better Bill Hunting' from Eustacia, 'Top Marks' from Yloise in Idyllshire, and 'Elite and Dangerous' from Ardolain. This must be done to unlock SB/SHB Hunts.

SB Hunts: Go to Kugane at x10.4, y10.3 and complete all quests with 'Veteran Clan Hunt' from Estrild.

SHB Hunts: Go to The Crystarium at x12.2, 15.1 and complete the quest 'Nuts to You' from the Hume Lout. Afterwards complete all quests from Halldor at x9.5, y9.4.

[gleaming mist]

micon should be on the bottom

[boreal aurora]

isnt mnaago supposed to be here https://i.imgur.com/21AmhE7.jpeg

why cant i see

[clear garden]

can i somehow get into shb extremes to place markers and stuff on my own

[vapid spoke]

how do you check your game ping again ?

[robust sail]

Is there a point in doing second coil of bahamut savage?

[storm vector]

hi since i got a false answer in the other channel when is the next fashion report?

[low flax]

friday

[storm vector]

ty

[leaden ginkgo]

why is white mage pickrate low in e12s

[low flax]

white mage worst healer

kek

[faint flare]

Titles and challenge

[leaden ginkgo]

@low flax theres no way thats true..

[faint flare]

White mage is fine

Someone needs to be the low pickrate job

[leaden ginkgo]

yeah but like its significantly low

[grand musk]

https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/564956/final-fantasy-xiv-online-complete-edition-pc-download

complete edition on sale for anyone looking to buy the game

[faint flare]

Scholar and astro bring raid buffs so

[spring elk]

does anyone know if the wedding minions are account-wide?

[storm vector]

nop they arent

[spring elk]

so if I have them on a temporary character, there's no way to transfer 'em to my main

[steep pagoda]

!freetrial

urm..

[faint flare]

Nope

!faq freetrial

[zinc orbit]

Free Trial Download and Limitations

Click Here to download the Free Trial

Click Here to see the Free Trial limitations

[steep pagoda]

Thanks haha

[spring elk]

oh that's unfortunate

[glass glacier]

hello guys, im new

im from singapore and i want to play ff14, how can i buy the game? i've tried the steam version but i got the error i2501 code

[upper wren]

mogstation

[leaden ginkgo]

Does FF have the same thing wit servers as WoW? Like certain servers for mostly end game elitist players. Others for more casual etc

Kinda

but its not as extreme as wow

[grand musk]

!faq product

[zinc orbit]

How to buy the game

Click here for NA

Click here for EU

Click here for JP

Image by /u/Alimantado

[grand musk]

@glass glacier

[glass glacier]

aight ill take a look at it, thanks!

[grand musk]

[glass glacier]

btw what's with error code i2501?

You cannot use this function.
Please contact the SQUARE ENIX Support Center for additional details.
Error Code: i2501

[grand musk]

"An i2501 is a general error on the Mogstation, as such it can be difficult to diagnose. It can be caused by an abnormal connection, a public network (Internet cafe, University connection), the use of a VPN or simply too many rapid attempts. The system will try to filter out anything it finds to be "strange."

Generally, waiting 24 hours between attempts can help alleviate the error. If this does not solve the issue, it may be necessary to contact Customer Support."

good luck, i'd recommend trying another network maybe, or contacting support

[glass glacier]

aight thanks for the info

[heavy tiger]

is ff14 on sale for pc?

[grand musk]

the complete edition of the game, is currently 60% on sale sale right now

yes

[heavy tiger]

I was talking about buying yesterday, thank god I waited a day

[rancid vector]

long shot but any idea what the red and green means on these?
at the top

[twilit garnet]

wondering, if Im a trial player can I see if people use shout chat or no?

[boreal storm]

Ye

[grand musk]

yes, orange text in chat is shouted

but you can't shout yourself

[twilit garnet]

just wondering

havent seen many people speak

[grand musk]

try limsa, you should find people speaking in public chats

[twilit garnet]

I am here right now xd

nothing D:

[grand musk]

slow day then

[twilit garnet]

maybe

[zinc orbit]

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