yh ive completed that quest
#questions-and-help
forest void
green grail
do you have any other quests showing under the msq tracker
forest void
no, I cant continue the msq without completing the dungeons that the quest unlocks
dire prawn
Check your journal and see if you completed 'A Recurring Problem'
halcyon tulip
Yes you need to complete the hard mode trials
digital lake
Whats the best way to get crystal sand for Heavensward relic as a non-crafter?
forest void
Yes you need to complete the hard mode trials
wdym
patent citrus
Whats the best way to get crystal sand for Heavensward relic as a non-crafter?
poetics
forest void
yh
forest void
yh
forest void
@dire prawn youre an absolute legend man thank you so much
i was stuck on this for like a week
thought it was the thancred at the rising stones
dire prawn
LMAO
forest void
RIGHT
halcyon tulip
Yeah thats confusing
dire prawn
dire prawn
Somebody yesterday made the same mistake with starting the quest chain
They thought it was the rising stones minfilia
hollow saddle
Hiya! Does the astrologian card stack with divination?
dire prawn
I'm going to say yes since they're two different buffs since Dancer's Standard and Technical Step stack on top of each other
hollow saddle
Okay thanks 😄
zinc orbitBOT
graceful kestrel
I did the last job quests lv50 and I got gear but where can I get weapon?
dire prawn
When you finish 2.0 you can get a Lv 50 i130 weapon
graceful kestrel
MSQ ?
dire prawn
Getting that alone will probably more than double your weapon
jade quartz
Main Story
graceful kestrel
ok
dire prawn
Damage*
But right before you do your last two MSQ you'll get a coffer with a 49 weapon
Your last two MSQ give you a battle currency you can use after you finish them to buy an i130 weapon
shrewd cradle
where would I be able to get any colour Hyacinth Corsage on the free trial?
jade quartz
where would I be able to get any colour Hyacinth Corsage on the free trial?
I’m afraid not, it’s only obtained by crafting as a level 73 Alchemist or trading with other players, both of which aren’t doable on trial
leaden ginkgo
so when does the level for the random dungeon change? Its still lvl 16 and im lvl52 rn...
proud willow
16 just means it is impossible to do it on a class that is below level 16 (because there's only one dungeon at 15)
the amount of bonus XP you get will be appropriate for your level
jade quartz
It always says level 16
proud willow
even if you get a low level dungeon
leaden ginkgo
oh, so that means i could even get the lvl50 dungeons, but most likely will end up in content below my level?
jade quartz
and is always worth it at any level
leaden ginkgo
i see, thx
proud willow
the level 50 dungeons aren't in Leveling roulette, there's a separate roulette for those
astral sail
if i changed job, do i need to redo all main quests?
jade quartz
1-49, 51-59, 61-69 and 71-79 dungeons are in leveling roulette.
astral sail
yeah i thought so xD
leaden ginkgo
1-49, 51-59, 61-69 and 71-79 dungeons are in leveling roulette.
thx!
dire prawn
That would make people quit the game
astral sail
im guessing on the first released of this game it was only up to lvl50?
jade quartz
Yes
astral sail
I see
jade quartz
50 was the level cap during A Realm Reborn.
Each expansion has raised the level cap by 10.
oblique yew
other than MB, where else can we get exarchic gear?
agile laurel
craft it
leaden ginkgo
craft it
dire prawn
Craft it
agile laurel
there is no other way
polar hound
gather materials for it and have someone else craft for you but yee
outer star
Blizzard sprites in Anemos show up in snow yeah? I can't see any
leaden ginkgo
i need to gather 300 mats ?
outer star
nvm now they showed up minutes later
twilit abyss
agile laurel
i need to gather 300 mats ?
no, gather 300 collectibles
are you aware of the difference?
plain python
will I get more proof of mettle if I turn at 40/60/80/100m instead of 20m in bozja?
drifting rampart
can you access GC squadron on trial version of the game ?
plain python
you can. Their max level is lv60 anyway
modest igloo
will I get more proof of mettle if I turn at 40/60/80/100m instead of 20m in boz...
Caps at around 25 mil
warm root
im abit lost, i vaugly remember there was a way to check collectable window without actually bein at the npc ( craft / gather ) is my memory wrong or im i just blind in searchin where the shortcut is
proud willow
Your memory isn't wrong; things changed
Collectibles no longer rotate
there are now specific items that are ONLY for collectable turn-ins. They all start with the word "rarified"
warm root
ohh i see, thanks alot for clearing it up for me ^^
brittle meadow
Is there any promo codes for ffxiv complete edition?
slate arrow
no
dawn cradle
How to invite someone to a crossworld linkshell?
zinc orbitBOT
proud willow
if you have invite privileges, you can just right-click them and it will be an option
drifting rampart
can you access GC squadron on trial version of the game ? becauswe i dont have the quest after i got my "Second Lieutenant" rank
patent citrus
yeah you can
oblique yew
for ast, is it important to use divination mid fight?
heavy wadi
yes, god yes
oblique yew
like, everyone's spread right?
heavy wadi
make sure you hit everyone with the buff
slate arrow
!action divination
zinc orbitBOT
Powered by XIVAPI
slate arrow
this button should always be used on cooldown during combat
oblique yew
say i get the divination off
will i have to go for the seals again and then go for the arcana?
or should i go for arcana first and then when divination's off cd, i go for the seals
agile laurel
if everyone is too spread out to get divination, that's their problem
drifting rampart
yeah you can
but i cant find the quest for it
agile laurel
makes no difference, the only thing that matters is you have 3 seals available for divination becoming available
logically, getting 3 seals first would be less weird
faint flare
And bound to happen after the initial use
Cause it's a 3min Cooldown and you get like 6 cards inbetween
oblique yew
do i just go for whatever seals i get, or should i try to get 3 unique ones at all times?
agile laurel
it'd be amazingly unlucky to not get 3
patent citrus
but i cant find the quest for it
what quest?
faint flare
Every use after the first should basically have 3 different
patent citrus
afaik you need to enter your barrack
drifting rampart
what quest?
GC squadron unlock quest
reef quiver
What's the max lvl on beast tribes?
drifting rampart
afaik you need to enter your barrack
cant enter the barrack as it dosnt have a entrance
patent citrus
!quest squadron and commander
zinc orbitBOT
!quest squadron and commander
patent citrus
cant enter the barrack as it dosnt have a entrance
drifting rampart
yes dont have this quest for me
either its not available for free trial, else i dont know why i cant unlock it
faint flare
Are you even high enough rank
drifting rampart
yes im "second lieutenant"
patent citrus
click the link... there's a required quest
drifting rampart
yeah "rising to challenge"
patent citrus
hmm I don't know sorry x_x
pliant vector
is there also an MGP cap for free trial players?
faint flare
No
shut panther
Once you get sleeve draw it's quite difficult not to have 3 different seals
tiny crag
I need more poetics. Is the only way to earn them through beastman tribes and duty finder? I'm waiting around 1hr to 3hrs to do Duty Finders and it's not exactly ideal. lol
faint flare
!faq poetics
zinc orbitBOT
brittle meadow
Okay, so
elfin osprey
what's coming on patch 5.57
faint flare
That just the free sub time
modest igloo
what's coming on patch 5.57
not quite sure yet, patch notes gonna come out later tonight
proven estuary
Hey, new to FF! What's a good website to learn about rotation, best stats etc? Thank you in advance! 🙂
modest igloo
Hey, new to FF! What's a good website to learn about rotation, best stats etc? T...
!faq balance
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
what's coming on patch 5.57
We don't know but probably savage/nier unlock and tome doubling based on 4.47
modest igloo
that discord is THE place for endgame minmaxing and rotations
(not that you'll be there for a while)
proven estuary
Ahh ok ty! 🙂 So, while leveling I should'nt worry too much?
leaden ginkgo
question about the free trial
is the coin from puppets bunker and copied factory limited to 1 per week? or only tower is limited
pulsar escarp
until you get there and you're still learning your class, youtube's weskalber's pretty good for giving you the basics until you get to 80.
leaden ginkgo
is it worth changing jobs
or is it fine finishing msq
wasting all exp from it as a level 60?
faint flare
is the coin from puppets bunker and copied factory limited to 1 per week? or onl...
Only tower
For now
leaden ginkgo
Only tower
gotcha thanks!
unborn swallow
Hey guys, so i bought endwalker pre order + collectors edition on steam, now i want to register them on mogstation, i could use button to register license keys once, so i registered the pre order. but now the button to register another one is gone. i cant register my collectors edition. any idea why?
faint flare
That's normal
You physically can't register the collectors code yet
You shouldn't even have it, but steam just gives all the codes now
Non steam people don't even have the collectors codes uet
You register it towards the end of early access
unborn swallow
Ah i see, i understand!, was the EXP earring from collector? or pre order?
faint flare
Pre order
unborn swallow
Perfect! thanks 🙂
dark geyser
hey there, recently got into crafting and gathering and im looking at this doc for gathering, and some items have Maps (Y) next to them, does this mean i have to gather that item for a chance at a map? or will that node have a map on it randomly
modest igloo
Ahh ok ty! 🙂 So, while leveling I should'nt worry too much?
the Main Story Quests will give you more than enough time to understand how the game plays and what your class/job can do
as story is the main focus of this MMO it takes a while to get to endgame, and the game is very noob friendly so don't worry too much how playing perfectly or being 100% optimal
vapid zenith
just wondering if there are any up to date guides on crafting HQ items for begginers? the guides i find online are outdated cause it looks like some skills got removed
faint flare
It's in 14 hours
silk forge
i thought it was last night
silk forge
heck, idk why i havent been able to connect all night then
tribal spear
exist unofficial youtube or twitch streams for the life letter with english subtibles, I want to watch Yoko Taro, but I don't unterstand Japanese 😭 ?
hot eagle
exist unofficial youtube or twitch streams for the life letter with english subt...
check #translations-and-liveletters there you can find unofficial translations when the letter is running but dont think you will find videos with subs at last not when its only just streamed
tribal spear
ah ok, that will be enough 🙂
zinc orbitBOT
tribal spear
only the official translation 2 week later is to less, because square shorten the life letter in the text translation
leaden ginkgo
how do i target random players on controller? I know in groups i just have to click up/down on the dpad, but its so random anywhere else.. Just trying to heal some people during FATES lol
patent citrus
make your nameplate to only show name whoever has health <100
and then click their character manually
leaden ginkgo
huh, didnt think of that, ill try it out
patent citrus
type /characterconfig -> Display Name Settings
half scarab
Guys.. What if, i run again my msq daily roulette at 20mnt before reset time.. (probably finish it 20mnt aftet reset time).. do i get the bonus exp?
patent citrus
!daily
half scarab
But i already dome the msq for today
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
leaden ginkgo
thx
half scarab
Do i get the tommorow bonus exp?
patent citrus
yeah
half scarab
Neat! I can save my 20mnt
astral sail
i have a normal weapon with spiritbond 100% how do you extract the materia from it? right-click option doesnt have any options to extract materia
half scarab
Thankyouuu
astral sail
quasi mulch
Honest question: is multiboxing allowed?
I see more and more multiboxers in FF lately
white hollow
is there a channel to ask for help for a specific dungeon or fight?
white hollow
i wanna do this and i can't find players (Chaos)
astral bolt
D: There's a limited amount of tomestones I can carry?!
warm snow
i wanna do this and i can't find players (Chaos)
Wait for reset in 28 minutes
quasi mulch
D: There's a limited amount of tomestones I can carry?!
Yes, Press STRG + C and then go over to the Battle Tab :)
astral sail
can i become all disciple classes or do i need to choose onc only?
cunning loom
the former
warm snow
can i become all disciple classes or do i need to choose onc only?
Start as one, unlock the ability to swap freely once you finish your starter jobs level 10 quest. From there
Channy gon bap me for that one
tiny crag
Does the retainer only sell stuff? They have a withdraw/entrust section, but does that take what you store and sell it too? I'm just asking cause I want to store dyes/furniture in it safely. lol
quasi mulch
No, it just stores your items / money :)
tiny crag
Nice, thanks so much! 🙂
modest igloo
go up the big tower and exit INTO the mountain
left whale
these things?
leaden ginkgo
theyre covered by mountains
boreal storm
these things?
Those are zone borders
left whale
Those are zone borders
it turns out my map literacy is also poor 🤔
boreal storm
You can’t proceed without the msq done
leaden ginkgo
i did
it's my next destination but all pathways are blocked
blocked
even the ones at the bottom
boreal storm
Warp to the tower and go up the stairs
leaden ginkgo
omg seriously
modest igloo
yes
leaden ginkgo
ive been running around in circles for almost an hour haha
modest igloo
as i said theres a bridge that connects from the tower into the mountain
astral bolt
so I can repurchase any quest reward from calamity salvager right?
tribal spear
it seemed that you have to a dungeon
left whale
its expectedly much more clear when the fog has been lifted if you're into seeing that..
modest igloo
so I can repurchase any quest reward from calamity salvager right?
no, only job quests and special event stuff
quest rewards are usually just vender gear
modest igloo
make sure to follow the path that goes INTO the mountain, not on top of it
that messed me up my first time
boreal storm
Messes me up all the time
leaden ginkgo
thanks!
boreal storm
This is why flying is a godsend
wheat plume
If I enter roulette before time resets, but finish after, do I get the bonus?
glossy flare
yes
astral bolt
no, only job quests and special event stuff
I mean the custom-made top equipment from lv 5 job quests
glossy flare
daily bonus is granted upon duty completion
so that's the point in time that matters
wheat plume
daily bonus is granted upon duty completion
Thxs
modest igloo
I mean the custom-made top equipment from lv 5 job quests
those aren't available from calamity salvager
only the artifact gear from level 45, 50 and 70 ones
astral bolt
does red mage starter gear count?
boreal storm
Unique Gear from msq shows up there
boreal storm
Mogstation
honest anvil
what's the "channeling inner strength" emote?
flat yew
when do you unlock the blade gear?
modest igloo
which gear?
halcyon tulip
@astral bolt the custom tops are avaitable at calamity salvager at "purchase quest rewards"
flat yew
Blade's gloves of healing, for example. The zadnor stuff
flat yew
I'm resistance rank 20 and was wondering when they unlock
modest igloo
rank 25
flat yew
dalradia? is that the castrum equivalent for zadnor?
modest igloo
yep
flat yew
or is it like delubrum?
modest igloo
like CLL
glossy flare
more like CLL
warm snow
I mean the custom-made top equipment from lv 5 job quests
That's not from job quests it's from Hall of the novice tutorials, you can repeat to get again
flat yew
do you have to run dalradia to unlock that gear?
glossy flare
you also farm it via that
warm snow
Yeah but he's still only rank 20
boreal storm
The “brand new” gear is from novice hall
astral bolt
That's not from job quests it's from Hall of the novice tutorials, you can repea...
those are lv 15 rewards
unborn swallow
Does someone have some good ARR Recap/explanation videos recommendations? i didnt play for years and i finished ARR but never followed the story, i kinda wanna start following the story from heavansward and onwards, but first i want to recap.
leaden ginkgo
Monk job question. Monk’s damage buff lasts a short amount of time, so short in fact, that I think you can only get one combo off before needing to refresh it. Does monk get a way to extend its damage buff on ST later on in the game?
modest igloo
Does someone have some good ARR Recap/explanation videos recommendations? i didn...
i think we have one in #archived-lore-spoilers pins
modest igloo
Monk job question. Monk’s damage buff lasts a short amount of time, so short in ...
you refresh ST every other combo
unborn swallow
@modest igloo Thanks going to check that out! 🙂
zinc orbitBOT
potent shoal
whats this "minion hotbar" thing and why does it say stuff about minion attacks?
unkempt oasis
what good way to farm white script as crafter
modest igloo
whats this "minion hotbar" thing and why does it say stuff about minion attacks?
minigame stuff in the gold saucer
leaden ginkgo
Would I lose my old save for New Game+ if I start a new Chapter?
modest igloo
what good way to farm white script as crafter
weekly turn-ins know as custom deliveries
modest igloo
Would I lose my old save for New Game+ if I start a new Chapter?
i... think so? haven't messed around with is too much myself
leaden ginkgo
i... think so? haven't messed around with is too much myself
hmmm. I guess there is only one way to find out. Pray for me 
leaden ginkgo
i... think so? haven't messed around with is too much myself
Looks like there is a pop up for it. I'm gonna lose it 
modest igloo
hey, at least the game gave you a warning
mental oracle
Where do you find instance ID for the eureka tracker?
unkempt oasis
is the white script gear is the best gear?
modest igloo
is the white script gear is the best gear?
no, its not even that great
stepping stone gear for BiS
which is pentamelded ilvl 490 gear
unkempt oasis
which one for BSM?
left whale
Really? Just the other day i was told ilvls were pretty much everytnj g
modest igloo
Really? Just the other day i was told ilvls were pretty much everytnj g
for combat, not for crafting
modest igloo
which one for BSM?
same as the others, although i don't have the full list on me atm
#doh-dol louge should have BiS lists iirc
little swift
reason why ilvl isn't everything in crafting/gathering is that you can meld mainstats onto your gear
white scrip gear doesn't have meld slots but you can meld the crafted gear
white scrip gear also has a severe CP/GP deficit
mental oracle
Where do you find instance ID for the eureka tracker? https://i.imgur.com/NHTYlss.png
fading helm
for the fashion report is there something i can wear instead of the gambers gloves
or is that one required for the 80 pts
inland cairn
what can I expect from tomorrow's patch?
warm snow
is the white script gear is the best gear?
Pretty much second best to max melded aesthetes gear
warm snow
what can I expect from tomorrow's patch?
Patch notes
We are not affiliated with squenix
We have no way of knowing what to expect
inland cairn
like any parallels from last expansion?
warm snow
Savage unlock maybe but covid took a baseball bat to scheduling
No outright new content though
inland cairn
was eureka nerfed at this point too?
warm snow
Shadowbringers is completed
warm snow
was eureka nerfed at this point too?
Not til 5.1
inland cairn
ah okay thanks
warm snow
So bozja wont be nerfed til Endwalker at minimum
vernal urchin
do we know what's gonna be in 5.57
fading helm
is the hyacinth corsage item available in market board? or is it craftable only
honest anvil
do we know what's gonna be in 5.57
Some guess savage unlock but nothing is certain
warm snow
do we know what's gonna be in 5.57
Look above
fading helm
oh no i only have 3 days of game time left
warm snow
is the hyacinth corsage item available in market board? or is it craftable only
It's on mb
honest anvil
Did you check “partial matches”?
fading helm
oh
potent hound
What do Marauders use for off hand?
twilit arch
nothing
honest anvil
If you didnt then need to prefix hyacinth with “red” “white” etc
twilit arch
only paladins, for combat jobs, have an off hand
tardy bay
I feel like red mages should have offhands
leaden ginkgo
so i just got the odin quest and remembered fighting him years ago. Have a new account now, but is there a way to check when he respawns?
tardy bay
but that's not for here
gritty oracle
so i just got the odin quest and remembered fighting him years ago. Have a new a...
The fate or the trial? The trial is available 24/7
twilit arch
You can join a hunt discord/linkshell to get call outs for when he spawns but the quest isn't to fight him in the fate
its to do the trial, which not recommended to do thru duty finder
leaden ginkgo
The fate or the trial? The trial is available 24/7
the fate
twilit arch
as its effectively an extreme fight, just not labelled as such
gritty oracle
There's a quest to do the odin fate? huh
leaden ginkgo
can i join linkshells in trial?
twilit arch
no
there is no quest for the fate
the quest is for the trial
and yes, you can join a linkshell on trial
leaden ginkgo
there is an introduction quest for him..not sure whether its for the fate or trial
twilit arch
its for the trial
gritty oracle
if it say "use the duty finder to enter Urth's Font" it's the trial
twilit arch
or rather i should say it leads into the quest for the trial
the fate is basically a 'world boss' fate
leaden ginkgo
i see
twilit arch
requires no quest or anything to do
leaden ginkgo
and those just spawn randomly? is there no countdown website like for other mmos?
twilit arch
spawns between 24-42 hours, and there's a few websites that track wold bosses/hunts but that requires player input to be kept up to date
easier to just join a hunt discord or linkshell, like i said
as they keep track of them
leaden ginkgo
ill do that, thx mate 👍
stable herald
hi, on the 15 timeworn artifacts step
as a DRK, what stats do I allocate?
do i have to allocate them now, or is later ok?
twilit arch
uuh not sure if you wait til later, but general priority is Crit > Det > SkS> Ten
can look at the BiS set ups in the drk lounge and follow those
major difference between them is the sks
warm snow
You can change later so dony worry too much
hasty ivy
So - shift + 0 doesn't seem to want to work for a keybind - is this a ff thing or windows thing?
honest tusk
Can you preview some of the later available Hairstyles in character creation somehow?
warm snow
Can you preview some of the later available Hairstyles in character creation som...
No but you can freely change hair in game
twilit arch
Can you preview some of the later available Hairstyles in character creation som...
no
warm snow
You don't need to buy a fantasia for hair
lilac flume
is there a reason raid comps are usually 2 melee dps, or is it just because melee dps generally do good damage?
honest tusk
Thanks all..
warm snow
is there a reason raid comps are usually 2 melee dps, or is it just because mele...
Melee in a vacuum is more dps that ranged, but can't keep 100% uptime
Also having variety buffs your entire party
lilac flume
yeah ik about 1phys/1ranged/1caster and all
but many comps i see are usually 2 melee
and i was curious
warm snow
The difference in dps isn't worth ignoring the party variety bonus, but it's still worth taking advantage of
gritty oracle
What's the best mob to farm for clusters in zadnor?
warm snow
There isn't one afaik
honest anvil
but many comps i see are usually 2 melee
probably just a coincidence; usual dps comp is (1 melee 1 range 1 caster) + another melee or caster; so can be 2 casters and that’s not uncommon
warm snow
Just make sure you're killing magitek
torn yew
Hello all, I was looking through the class and class quests post I could find but could not find an answer to this, I tried this game about 4 - 5 years ago, and was thinking of starting it fresh with my wife and running through the story, I was curious about two points
Are class quests still only solo'able (ie if you are with a group of people during that section of questing it disbands your group)
How much of a pain is it to get to a new city if our starting classes (we were thinking pugalist and arcanist) has us starting in two seperate cities
twilit arch
certain quests are still solo only, yes
astral bolt
This might be a dumb question, but is red mage melee magical or physical damage?
twilit arch
the ones that requires you do to a solo duty
warm snow
Hello all, I was looking through the class and class quests post I could find bu...
Story converges at level 15. All solo content can be done with any job
warm snow
This might be a dumb question, but is red mage melee magical or physical damage?
Magic damage with melee range requirements
twilit arch
enchanted is magical, unenchanted is physical @astral bolt
but you pretty much never want to use your melee combo unenchanted to begin with so
warm snow
You shouldn't EVER be doing unenchanted
astral bolt
Red mage is the only magical melee DPS class, and that's only occasionally
twilit arch
wouldn't really call it magical melee dps
its a caster that melees every now and then
torn yew
I see, thank you
astral bolt
Do you think there'll ever be a magical melee DPS job?
warm snow
No
limpid glacier
can hair be changed without fantasia?
zinc orbitBOT
!quest Beauty is only scalp deep
limpid glacier
oh nice thanks
twilit arch
once you do this quest, it unlocks the aesthetician, which can be accessed at any inn room by using the crystal bell
limpid glacier
will I be able to change my race with fantasia btw?
twilit arch
yes, fantasia basically lets you go back into character creation. only things you can't change with it are name, and starting class
limpid glacier
Ye I started that quest a while ago but never finsihed it lol
that's cool as I hadn't access to dlc races when I created my chara
stable herald
Gotcha. Thanks @twilit arch
oh, for the relic quest after that, dont suppose you know if it's possible to get drops for all 3 quests simultaneously
Can i run zadnor and simultaneously get axel/spring, memories etc?
twilit arch
yes
hot eagle
each zone drops the items for 1 quest, 1 item comes from the skirmishes and the other from criticals
quasi mulch
Hey, do dailies scale with the daily you get?
warm snow
Yes
hot eagle
yes the exp scales for your level and the difference of the duty you get
warm snow
If you mean roulettes
quasi mulch
Im talking about dailies, yeah. I just did Trials and we got the fast ARR one. Would I get more EXP if we would get , lets say Susano , as my Trial daily?
zinc orbitBOT
potent hound
What does it mean when it says "Action no yet learned?"
limpid glacier
What does it mean when it says "Action no yet learned?"
Did that occur to you in a dungeon? Your level sometimes gets synced down according to the dungeon
I bought a weapon at the sundry splendor, did I waste my points? It was ilevel 110 while I'm 52
clever ether
Can you dye armor?
potent hound
Did that occur to you in a dungeon? Your level sometimes gets synced down accord...
It popped up when I attempted to use a level 15 skill
quasi mulch
Can you dye armor?
Yes of course - you have to unlock it though. But you unlock it really early.
clever ether
Yes of course - you have to unlock it though. But you unlock it really early.
Any armor? So I have a white robe on my AST can I dye it black?
alpine shadow
It popped up when I attempted to use a level 15 skill
where were you at when you did the skill?
quasi mulch
Not any armor. If you look at the picture of the equipment you can tell if its dyeable if it has a circle in the top right corner
twilit arch
!faq dyeicons
zinc orbitBOT
quasi mulch
^ this :D
clever ether
Ah so cool
hot eagle
It popped up when I attempted to use a level 15 skill
did you do your class/job quests? they give/unlock skills
potent hound
did you do your class/job quests? they give/unlock skills
I dont think I have
quasi mulch
That happens to me sometimes when I start FFXIV
oblique glacier
That happens to me sometimes when I start FFXIV
after 15 restarts it works, seems the problem is alt tabbing before the game loads
limpid glacier
is Repertoire the notes in the song gauge?
warm snow
Yes
limpid glacier
thanks
gusty island
is there a calendar somewhere for all the events in this game? could've sworn i saw one in a video, but google hasn't helped 😆
twilit arch
there's a pinned image that has upcoming stuff
twilit arch
but if you mean one for all seasonal events, not sure of one.
warm snow
And even if you tried to make one based on previous years, again 2020 happened.
gusty island
alright thanks 😄 the one in the pins is actually the one i remember seeing in that video
warm snow
!faq communityfinder
zinc orbitBOT
opaque fiber
Does the L button (keyboard) do anything?
green grail
default for linkshell window iirc
tribal apex
My cam is stuck at first person help me please
green grail
but like anything on keyboard you can rebind it
tribal apex
My mouse wheel isn’t working
opaque fiber
hmm and if I set it for LB, which one is priority?
twilit arch
did you hit home per chance (assuming you didn't change the keybind)
green grail
can't assign the same key to 2 binds
opaque fiber
ahh i see
I should rebind then!
oh no i accidentally overwrote the middle click 🤦♂️
Any clue what was it?
limpid glacier
can't assign the same key to 2 binds
not even with macros?
green grail
no?
green grail
oh no i accidentally overwrote the middle click 🤦♂️
Any clue what was it?
autorun I think
opaque fiber
true true, ty!
strange scaffold
So ive notice i have a player level and like a character lvl depending on my gear lvl.. whats the lvl cap for character lvl?
green grail
max job level is 80, max item level is 530 with 535 weapons
strange scaffold
Holy 530?
cunning loom
like, 60 cap was 270, 70 cap was 400
faint flare
130 at 50, 270 at 60, 400 at 70, 530 at 80
Probably get 660 at 90/endwalker last patch if they don't shrink ilvls
tribal apex
How long is this butterfinger mount is gonna be available?
robust crow
damn, I just looked at the pins and noticed someone pinned my gear guide
robust crow
How long is this butterfinger mount is gonna be available?
until 6/30
plain python
what does it mean 122 up in CCL?
crystal bluff
damn, I just looked at the pins and noticed someone pinned my gear guide
You're famous now
ripe hound
Is 5.57 patch notes out yet?
faint flare
No
modest igloo
not yet
ripe hound
k
fading aurora
At what stat 0/0 in potd do people start going solo
zinc orbitBOT
faint flare
Max
fading aurora
Is it hard to solo grind from 30/30 to 99
boreal storm
You don’t
faint flare
You would have to be really careful since you're lacking defence for higher floors
limpid glacier
are the blue level 50 quests in mor dhona improtant? there a quite a few
leaden ginkgo
Why does post ARR give me literally NOTHING?
faint flare
So you don't overlevel
faint flare
Your level means nothing
boreal storm
Get to Next expansion, do the quests, repeat
faint flare
They're debuffed
fading aurora
Are there any glams that make an AU RA male look super buff? Like they have muscles instead of being skinny
round crag
Debuff. Some fights apply a debuff to the whole alliance so you’ll see everyone with that symbol
astral bolt
Are there any glams that make an AU RA male look super buff? Like they have musc...
aren't AU RA male already kinda buff?
fading aurora
aren't AU RA male already kinda buff?
No they look skinny af
I remember seeing one glam set that made it look buff
But don't remember what it was
outer mural
male au ra are lean with some muscle
fading aurora
something like this
leaden ginkgo
could I use Bitwarden as my OTP for FFXIV?
fading aurora
where they look massive
modest igloo
could I use Bitwarden as my OTP for FFXIV?
what's a bitwarden?
leaden ginkgo
i assume as long as I am paying for the premium right?
faint flare
I think @alpine shadow said he uses it
fading aurora
Where do you get the rising dragon set from?
leaden ginkgo
just searched in discord. found the comment. thank you!
twilit arch
pvp @fading aurora
remote lintel
something like this
thats just all big armor on males
fast solar
There is Recruit a Friend bonus in game?
fading aurora
What about the bonewicca mask?
fading aurora
There is Recruit a Friend bonus in game?
The recruit and recruiter get rewards
fast solar
Can you Recruit a Friend with trial account?
twilit arch
no
remote lintel
no
fading aurora
the swallows compass
Can u buy it on mb?
fast solar
FFFFF
remote lintel
no
leaden ginkgo
i asked this question once but i forgot sry : What req you need to marry in this game? any level? expansion?
twilit arch
no, its dungeon gear
twilit arch
i asked this question once but i forgot sry : What req you need to marry in this...
17
twilit arch
Huh
remote lintel
which is weird because garland tools lists the items as lvl 1
modest igloo
sometimes this game feels all over the place with what you need
at least the items being at lvl 1 makes sense for glam
white grail
is it possible to do leveling roulette with a full party?
modest igloo
only with 4
white grail
ok, ty!
pliant vector
anyone know how im supposed to use these lightning sprite cores for this levequest?
nothing is appearing in key items when i slay the sprites
remote lintel
you use the item first
pliant vector
and i cant seem to drag the shards into inventory
remote lintel
then kill it
pliant vector
how do i access the item?
remote lintel
you have it right there
faint flare
In the key items
remote lintel
right click
faint flare
Just target and use it
pliant vector
ohhh, are the cores and the shards different drops all together?
sinful comet
I don't have the shadowbringers expansion so will my level cap at 60 when reached? and will any exp earned just go to waste if so?
faint flare
Yes and yes
sinful comet
ok would it be smart for me to switch class/job then or should I just keep playing with the one I have right now?
remote lintel
switch when you get to 60
remote lintel
yes
sinful comet
ok so I should level up my char so I can do the msq with the new job?
outer mural
rogue/ninja gets it around level 35 when you get your fireball
outer mural
then at 38 when you get your actua laoe skill
pliant vector
oohh ok thank you
just feel kind of uselss in dungeons atm
with the 2 spell rotation
leaden ginkgo
@alpine shadowwould i be able to use the family one for OTP?
tidal yarrow
is there a way to hide the damage numbers i do and also of the other party members on the boss?
leaden ginkgo
nvm, just looked, yes i would.
faint flare
Turn off pop up text In character configuration > ui > hud to hide other people's damage and buffs
Your damage is flying text
pliant vector
who would want to disable serotonin lol
flat aspen
Is using controller on PC viable? For some reason whenever I press up on the left joystick to run, it stutters into walking half the time. Is there a way to fix this? I've tried on PS4 and PS5 controllers, usb wired (since for some reason bluetooth doesn't get recognized by the game).
I downloaded the game from SE directly, not Steam, if that matters
reef quiver
So it's pointless doing most the daily quests once you max all jobs huh?
faint flare
Dailies usually give tomes when you're at cap
limpid glacier
should I get the relic artemis bow if I already have this one
modest igloo
they are for glam
cunning loom
if you like the style, sure
limpid glacier
I bought that by accident
limpid glacier
are they upgradeable ?
limpid glacier
it said I needed some other bow with materia in it so idk
limpid glacier
can I place materia if I don't have that discipline of the hand leveled?
agile laurel
You don't craft materia
You get them from some dungeon drops, usually max level dungeons, or extract them from fully spiritbonded gear
limpid glacier
so I shouldn't bother rn
limpid glacier
aight
leaden ginkgo
how do people react or interact open chest Fast
limpid glacier
there's a pop up for the loot at the bottom right corner
leaden ginkgo
i mean how people Interact with things
fast
and easily
How i see my time played ingame?
limpid glacier
/playtime in the ingame chat
patent citrus
i mean how people Interact with things
type /keybind
system -> confirm
press that hotkey
leaden ginkgo
thank you
patent citrus
it's very useful if you are in the middle of the crowd and need the click an important npc/chest
patent citrus
What do the riding maps do
increase your mount speed
little swift
Riding maps aren't super necessary since you fly at max speed
fast hull
Excuse me after 1 month I finished the 30 30 30 relic thing. What's the most efficient way to get raw emotions. Can only play for a limited time
patent citrus
^ it's only necessary in a place like BSF or Zadnor
little swift
By the time you can get them you could probably fly
patent citrus
Excuse me after 1 month I finished the 30 30 30 relic thing. What's the most eff...
Zadnor
little swift
Raw emotions is 3 per dalriada run or 2 and a time worn in dr
leaden ginkgo
Does Ability Haste lower GCD?
little swift
Or 1 per lv70 dungeon
Yes haste reduces gcd
But typically you only have access to skill speed/spell speed
zinc orbitBOT
idle spoke
isnt the quest called "the gift of archmagus" a one time per week ?
i got it for the 3rd time this week
im confused
idle spoke
oh i see, the info online is quite mixed though, thanks!
faint flare
Ignore anything older than July 2019
ionic linden
best way to turn seals to gils?
faint flare
Expansions change alot of things yes
limpid glacier
how much longer is that Hildibrand quest line, is there even a decent reward to it
faint flare
It covers all expansions except shadowbringers
Its a comedy side quest...has some trials attached to it...some glamour, some minions and emotes
sage mist
I'm looking for more end game overworld stuff to do. What kinda stuff do you guys do?
limpid glacier
oh I see, I'll stop then lol
boreal storm
No don’t Hildy is a treasure
modest igloo
I'm looking for more end game overworld stuff to do. What kinda stuff do you guy...
crafting, beast tribes, maps are all overworld stuff to do
sage mist
crafting, beast tribes, maps are all overworld stuff to do
What are maps?
modest igloo
unlocking flying too if you havent done that
basically you get a treasure map
and it gives you a location to find on your map
once you do out pops a chest and some mobs to fight
kill them, get gil and poetics and other items to sell on the marketboard
for lvl 80 gilderskin maps are solo maps and zonureskin are for parties of up to 8
sage mist
Ok. I'll look into those. that sounds cool... I'm working on leveling my crafter but I'm out of leves to do 😦
random girder
where are you in the msq
sage mist
done with everything... Looking for stuff to do while waiting for PF Savages
random girder
level them in ishgard restoration
fast hull
Are maps the best way to level your chocobo to 80. Playing over a year and he is still level 15 😩
cunning loom
doesn't it max at 20
hard parrot
Chocobos do be lagging. 😔
boreal storm
Chocobos only go to rank 20
tidal bane
can you have ui scale between 100% and 150%?
sage mist
Good... I super need to level my chocobo
hard parrot
I would sacrifice everyone in this room for my Sushibo. 
fast hull
@boreal storm ah mistyped like chocobo to chocoholic xd
hard parrot
I think FATEs might be a decent way as well?
fast hull
Nah tried fates killing mobs for me is faster
cunning loom
and it'll level up naturally
fast hull
In the tempest but boring, people tell me to do maps since it's fastest?
But never ran a map before
robust crow
maps force-spawn a large group of enemies every map
idk about "fastest" but it gets 2 birds with one stone
so the group of enemies is good exp for your chocobo
hard parrot
But you'd need to farm for maps, which might take time.
robust crow
and then you can do the map portal for money
you can buy maps from the marketboard, tag along with other people's map runs, or gather your one map per day and run them in a batch
fast hull
My fc does map runs but I never joined because I might suck
robust crow
it literally doesn't matter how bad you are
maps don't take skill
as long as you bring a few maps of your own to contribute
faint flare
It's literally just braindead aoe spam
hard parrot
That reminds me-- is it possible to sell Zonureskin maps? I was trying to put one on the MB the other day, but the item was greyed out.
faint flare
That's all maps aee
Yes
You can only sell 1 map per retainwr
Due to the unique tag
hard parrot
Oh, gotcha. Maybe that was the issue, tyty.
faint flare
It includes their inventory as well
robust crow
and don't be an ass about map loot either
latent river
Guys is there like a guide for what to definitely do while leveling for the first time? Like follow msq, do blue quests, how to get as best gear as possible (assuming via tomestones vendor gear) all in one optimal check list guide for beginners?
robust crow
if you win 8 seacloth or some shit from the map gamble don't hog it all for yourself unless the FC is cool with it
well i guess frontier cloth is the high ticket item now
fast hull
Well people tell to level your alt jobs with potd(1-60) hoh(61-70) bozja (71-80) but finding a group who does the grind is hard. Rather spam the highest level dungeons. That is why you unlock things first so you have a place to level
sage mist
Guys is there like a guide for what to definitely do while leveling for the firs...
There are some guides you can find. My reccomendation would be finish the MSQ. If you do a lot of extra stuff you'll be really op by the end or you'll be able to level like 3 jobs before you finish
nimble holly
is the maintenence today going to unlock the savage tier?
fast hull
But for equipment I think you are the right track though, if it's your first job, use your quest rewards. 1st job haven't finish the msq yet have little Gil. Would rather grind dungeons than buy from vendors
robust crow
is the maintenence today going to unlock the savage tier?
don't know for sure yet, but likely
nimble holly
fingers crossed
latent river
Are they going to do like a free play period of 3-4 days like they do every once in a while soon?
faint flare
Magic 8ball says "Maybe some day"
modest igloo
using that from now on lol
warm snow
Time for my hit single
warm snow
Are they going to do like a free play period of 3-4 days like they do every once...
We are not affiliated with squenix
robust crow
warm snow
We are just a bunch of assholes that sometimes decide to he mildly helpful
grim plover
anyone know how long it takes to get max rested bonus
limpid glacier
how do I pass the sea of clouds
gusty island
how do i remove this lock on hotbar 1?
i dont click my abilities anyway
oh looks like theres no way to remove it. cool
gonna have to switch hotbars/just ignore it
glossy flare
yeah that lock on hotbar 1 can sadly not be removed
been a point of annoyance for a while now
gusty island
im running out of hotbars 
robust crow
you can have 10 of them
gusty island
yeah and i like to have some of them as pseudo-timers where they're easy to see
random girder
i use 4 for most of my jobs and thats just because their layout is completely fucked due to me needing comfy keybinds
gusty island
suddenly you have fewer 😳
fast hull
Do controllers Also have 10 hotbars?
gusty island
ig i dont need all the hotbars im using rn anyway. ive reserved some for certain binds but so far i dont have nearly enough abilities to actually use all of them
like one bar for my 12 side buttons
and one bar each for three modifiers
havent used shift or ctrl as modifiers yet
robust crow
controllers have a different setup that doesn't use "hotbars"
but you can put hotbars in your UI despite having a controller
tough solar
Is it recommended to finish MSQ with another job if you hit 80 before finishing the MSQs? That way the exp doesn't get wasted?
leaden ginkgo
How long does it take to HW after defeating Ramuh i cant take it anymore
sour ruin
520 Aug exarchic fending top with crit/det or 525 Blade's fending top with crit/ten is one better than the other or is it so close that its down to pref
patent citrus
520 Aug exarchic fending top with crit/det or 525 Blade's fending top with crit/...
afaik the yorha one is better
drop from tower
sour ruin
Gotcha
random girder
How long does it take to HW after defeating Ramuh i cant take it anymore
youre in 2.3 so youre about halfway
sour ruin
How long does it take to HW after defeating Ramuh i cant take it anymore
48 more quests
Just counted for you
random girder
2.4 and 2.5 are real good though
story wise
so its ok
typically the .4 and .5 patches lead into the next expansion
leaden ginkgo
Just counted for you
Much love thank you <3
unkempt oasis
what best armor bsm?
random girder
so 2.4 and 2.5 are leading into heavensward
gusty island
another HUD question - in WoW you could move elements around with your arrow keys, allowing you to stay on the same x or y coordinate while moving things around.
is that at all possible in ffxiv? havent figured out a way to do it
random girder
i dont think so 
quaint brook
another HUD question - in WoW you could move elements around with your arrow key...
U can do that with controller dpad, not sure about kb
robust crow
what best armor bsm?
best armor for all crafters is going to be pentamelded aesthetes
limpid glacier
If I use my fantasia, will it be consumed even though I don't change anything?
boreal storm
You have to accept the changes
limpid glacier
Cool, thanks
terse grail
another HUD question - in WoW you could move elements around with your arrow key...
you can do that using your numberpad if you got one on your kb
limpid glacier
probably means addons
terse grail
Is it recommended to finish MSQ with another job if you hit 80 before finishing ...
thats sort of a subjective thing, but imo it depends how far you are into the story. if your like in shb and you hit 80 early, its no big deal imo, but if your still in HW and SB, it might be a good idea to pick up a 2nd job to not waste the xp
tough solar
thats sort of a subjective thing, but imo it depends how far you are into the st...
Gotcha - thanks! Yeah I'll see, apparently it's really easy to level an alt so I won't force it
gusty island
you can do that using your numberpad if you got one on your kb
got it. specifically, if youre like me and have already bound those to other stuff, these are the binds you want
and yeah ig it was a custom hud i had for wow
fast hull
Excuse me strange question. Is there a way to repeat a blue raid quest. There is an orchestration scroll Voice of no return and its really good. I don't know if I thrown it or something and the calamity salvager doesn't have it.
random girder
did you use it
fast hull
I don remember but it's grey
random girder
what do you mean by grey
gusty island
how likely am i to actually need the full height of the target info (status) box?
like, does it happen often that bosses get buffs/debuffs that stack in two rows?
fast hull
Usually I pop an orchestration scroll when I have it
zinc orbitBOT
random girder
how likely am i to actually need the full height of the target info (status) box...
alliance raids, sometimes
delubrum
gusty island
😦
fast hull
Grey is unavalaible
gusty island
the search for good element placement continues
random girder
@gusty island this is personally how i have my targer info
gusty island
im looking to move things further down atm
patent citrus
how likely am i to actually need the full height of the target info (status) box...
I think the icon scales
random girder
its about 1/3 down the screen for me
gusty island
vestal needle
wasnt there a relic weapon that require 80k company seals?
gusty island
i just dont like the space between the target hp and status if theres only one row of buffs/debuffs
patent citrus
can't set the amount of buff you can fit in that window
icon also scales with windows
random girder
oops player names lol
random girder
yeah
actually no it isnt
enemy list
that thing takes up most of it
so i keep it empty other than that
no way to predict how big that gets
gusty island
id show mine but its a complete mess rn due to moving everything
random girder
gusty island
is it against server rules to have screenshots with player names or smth?
random girder
i think it is when flaming people lol
not doing so here but just being careful
dont wanna dox my e10s party
not that i know any of them
random girder
yeah
gusty island
ye thats fair
dapper quarry
Can we play other starting cities 1-15 main story quests after we are done with our first starting city?
obtuse dust
I'm trying to do some like Guildhests or whatever they're called but I dont have them
I have levequests unlocked but not those ones
cunning loom
they aren't in your duty finder?
twilit arch
you need to do the quest "Simply the Heist" to unlock them, what city did you start in?
unkempt oasis
best armor for all crafters is going to be pentamelded aesthetes
how to get it?
robust crow
well
you can either buy the aesthetes off the marketboard and pentameld it yourself
which will probably cost you between 3-5m total depending on pentamelding luck
or you can craft the aesthetes yourself, provided you have a lot of patience
but you'd still have to pentameld it
largely not worth the effort to do it this late into the patch
probably save yourself like 1.5m crafting it yourself
unkempt oasis
do i need any Recipes?
robust crow
well you'd need to be level 80 and i'm pretty sure there's a recipe book you'd have to purchase
let me check
twilit arch
you need master 8 to craft aesthete
robust crow
or yeah
master 8
yeah it costs a giant load of yellow scrips
i remember i was just trying to dump yellow scrips for several weeks so I didn't even know what the books taught
opaque fiber
Where can I buy some level 40-ish gear?
dire prawn
Market Board
opaque fiber
my friend is on trial
fast hull
In starter cities vendors sell those
limpid glacier
when's the weekly reset?
twilit arch
!weekly
zinc orbitBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
opaque fiber
In starter cities vendors sell those
ty
fast hull
But I rather grind in the level 41-47 dungeons since they are better
dire prawn
Is maintenance tonight or tomorrow night
twilit arch
tonight
dire prawn
But I rather grind in the level 41-47 dungeons since they are better
Do you have the 44 and 47 dungeons unlocked
fast hull
Or do your level 45 job quest since it essentially the job gear which has better stats
turbid pilot
Where can I buy some level 40-ish gear?
Try Ishgard
opaque fiber
he's in ARR
lilac thicket
What do I spend Allagan Tomestones of Allegory on?
opaque fiber
What do I spend Allagan Tomestones of Allegory on?
Eulmore, some mats, can sell on MB
or 480 gear, or augment exarchic gear
dire prawn
Try Ishgard
Why would a location that requires you to be Lv 50 sell sub-50 gear
Answer: It doesn't
waxen karma
does anyone know what this housing exterior is called? i can't seem to find it
fast hull
Personally I use allegory on rains so my 510 exarch can evolve to 520 in order to survive some raids
turbid pilot
Why would a location that requires you to be Lv 50 sell sub-50 gear
Imma just leave this here since you're being a jerk about it
limpid glacier
does it take long to get a disciple of the hand job to 15?
royal steeple
is there an easy way to figure out which class quest you're on or missing?
I got a story skip from a friend which let me pass stormblood on my alt tank
dire prawn
is there an easy way to figure out which class quest you're on or missing?
Your MSQ tracker will show it
royal steeple
but the problem is, I dont know which quest i'm on
oh you mean the one on the top left?
dire prawn
Yes
royal steeple
omg dope, thanks!
dire prawn
Wait did you get a level skip too
dire prawn
Oh
royal steeple
I knew how it worked (roughly)
outer mural
does anyone know what this housing exterior is called? i can't seem to find it
those appear to be the half-timbered cottage walls
turbid pilot
is there an easy way to figure out which class quest you're on or missing?
Yeah, under the MSQ thing, that quest is your next job quest
royal steeple
but i just didnt know how the class quests mix in with it
twilit arch
I think its trader's walls? @waxen karma
ivory pendant
how is it I go into town and see someone close by level up twice at once, like what am I missing?
outer mural
it's half-timbered as the category btw*
cottage just means small
turbid pilot
how is it I go into town and see someone close by level up twice at once, like w...
Probably crafting? Which town?
ivory pendant
just different towns I've been doing the MSQ through
dire prawn
how is it I go into town and see someone close by level up twice at once, like w...
Probably a crafter with FC crafter/gatherer buff
And exp earrings
cunning loom
they could be turning in GC deliveries
outer mural
if it's like a combat job they might just be turning in MSQ stuff with the 2x exp boost as well
ivory pendant
ohhh ok didn't think crafting dings would count nmv ^.^ thanks kupo
turbid pilot
so I'm trying to start a FC, it's going to just be me and my husband. I know we need a third, but if I started it, why does the petition say 1/3 after my husband signed it? How do I sign my own petition?
onyx kiln
is Ovni something you need to pre-farm in order to get it to spawn in Hydatos? And does it have a short cooldown than other NMs?
onyx kiln
okay, got surprised seeing it 3 times in short succession
faint flare
If someone enters BA it goes on a 90min Cooldown
The support fate that spawn basically is meant to make up for Ovni not spawning for the time
leaden canopy
In how many hours is the maint ?
hard parrot
What's up with the Forlorn Maiden that appears in FATEs?
twilit arch
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leaden canopy
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Thanks a bunch !
twilit arch
if you kill the forlon/maiden while doing fates, you'll get a buff called "twist of fate" which increases xp gained from the next fate you do
Maiden gives a 50%buff, the Forlon gives 250%
spring elk
i remember reading something from like 7 years ago about grand companies offering different benefits to different jobs... I'm assuming that's no longer the case, right?
twilit arch
still technically is, but that's talking about the gear you can buy while leveling
which really isn't make or break since most people don't bother with buying gc armour
turbid pilot
the level 50 crafter's gear the GCs have is very useful, though
manic heath
So I just finished ARR and am about to start heavensward and it looks like the MSQ rewards are quite a lot
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manic heath
I’ve been coasting on my trial maxed ARC dps but want to try a tank for the MSQ exp rewards
So far I’ve been using marauder, but a lot say to do dark knight. Should I just access ishgard and do dark knight?
turbid pilot
It's up to you, really. But by finished, do you mean first or second credits?