questions-and-help

[alpine shadow]

what's the q

[brisk rapids]

When does the DRK quest line become available

[boreal storm]

Beginning of heavensward

[outer mural]

heavensward, unlocked after level 50 and beating ARR / post-ARR

Lyon don't we have an FAQ command for this

[brisk rapids]

i got a long way to go then lol

[outer mural]

been trying to ctrl+F it with no luck

[spice obsidian]

I donn't know why but everytime I login my config and HUD keep reseting sizes

[jade quartz]

uhhhh

[astral bolt]

So if I'm reading this right, I can unlock bluemage spells with any class right?

[outer mural]

it's class something

[jade quartz]

!faq expacjob

[zinc orbit]

Expansion Jobs and How to Unlock Them

Heavensward Expansion Jobs: Dark Knight (Tank), Astrologian (Healer), and Machinist (Ranged DPS). These jobs start at level 30 and require completion of the level 50 main scenario quest 'Before the Dawn'.
Quest Unlock Locations:
Dark Knight - Pillars(13,8).
Astrologian - Pillars(15,10).
Machinist - Foundation(8,10).

Stormblood Expansion Jobs: Red Mage (Caster DPS) and Samurai (Melee DPS). These jobs start at level 50 and require ownership of the Stormblood Expansion and a disciple of war or magic job at level 50.
Quest Unlock Locations:
Red Mage - Ul'dah(14,17).
Samurai - Ul'dah(9,9).

Shadowbringers Expansion Jobs: Gunbreaker (Tank) and Dancer (Ranged DPS). These jobs start at level 60 and require ownership of the Shadowbringers Expansion and a disciple of war or magic job at level 60.
Quest Unlock Locations:
Gunbreaker - New Gridania (11,11).
Dancer - Limsa Lominsa Lower Decks (9,12).

[outer mural]

[boreal storm]

No you have to be playing blue mage to get the spells

[outer mural]

using this forever

[outer mural]

^
you must also be alive and have seen the boss cast the spell

it will be guaranteed if you are synced to the content's level

[alpine shadow]

weird, sure it is all saved (hitting the button when on layout)?

[outer mural]

unsync also ahs a chance but not guaranteed

[spice obsidian]

I check apply all the time and I make sure to logout when it's done

[boreal storm]

So with a spell like lv5 death, someone has to get sacrificed

[alpine shadow]

i don't know much about troubleshooting those problems of a ps5

seems weird

[astral bolt]

Oh, his whole comment about you only need their attention instead of whacking them with your stick is rather misleading

[outer mural]

yeah thankfully you don't need to autoattack it with your cane lmfao

[spice obsidian]

mmm well I fix it but don't know why it keep happening something about display setting

[strange notch]

Quick question, to unlock Machinist do I need to be lv50 with a 'Ranged DPS' or any class?

[boreal storm]

Any

[strange notch]

cool

[alpine shadow]

sounds like an auto-settings on ps5 on display size

[dire prawn]

All expansion jobs only require you to be at the requisite level with any DoW/DoM class/job

The only exception to this is the Heavensward jobs - DRK, MCH and AST - which require you to have physical access to Ishgard as well

[zinc orbit]

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[boreal storm]

That isn’t Blue mage, they don’t have rights

[dire prawn]

BLU isn't an expansion job

[spice obsidian]

So it's the console because ingame it's set to full HD/ interface 100% but the console it set to 2000 or something like that

[boreal storm]

Requisite level with any DOW/DOM job

That isn’t blue mage, as they don’t have rights

[outer mural]

actually that is blue mage, the distinction is just that they are limited

semantics hooooo

[dire prawn]

I don't understand

[dire prawn]

Give

[hollow saddle]

Um hi, are the Endwalker pre order experience earrings actually good for like stats?

[dire prawn]

Yes

They are your best earrings until you reach Lv 80

[alpine shadow]

it sync up max stats to your level

[modest igloo]

after 80 its not great

[hollow saddle]

Ah okay, thanks. So if I plan to preorder it there is no point to buy the shire earrings, i guess 😄

[dire prawn]

Lv 80 i430, syncs down to your current level and average gear level

Yes

If you preorder EW no earrings are better until 80

[hollow saddle]

Thank you :D!

[outer mural]

need full game to pre-order and get the earrings i think btw

[dire prawn]

You need

[hollow saddle]

I have the game, I'm not on free trial. I have Shadowbringers.

[dire prawn]

Base game

Well

You can buy the preorder whenever

But you can't use it without starter or complete edition

[hollow saddle]

Yeah, I'll do that today 😄

[dire prawn]

Also 30% exp boost to all jobs under 80 :^)

[hollow saddle]

😄

[lavish sierra]

whats stat prio for drk?

[astral bolt]

If you preorder the expac, do you just get the earrings in your inventory?

[alpine shadow]

in your moogle mail

[astral bolt]

Can you get another one from a trader of you lost it?

[modest igloo]

STR/ilvl first, then CRIT and DET

[alpine shadow]

doubt

[astral bolt]

Or for other characters?

[alpine shadow]

yes, it is account wide

[lavish sierra]

thank you

[sturdy glacier]

I have far too many company seals - what should I spend them on?

[astral bolt]

Glamour prisms

[sturdy glacier]

Just to sell on the MB?

I have about a hundred

[halcyon tulip]

Promotion if you are not max rank yet

[boreal storm]

Squadrons too if you care

[sturdy glacier]

Can I buff em' with seals or something? I haven't done much with squadrons

[leaden ginkgo]

Is verdant tempest (DR 1st boss’s raid-wide) physical or magical?

[faint flare]

Magic

[leaden ginkgo]

ty

[astral bolt]

Maybe you can buy that exp boost for DoH/DoL class?

[boreal storm]

You spend seals to send them on missions

[south shuttle]

Is Delubrum Savage any easier with the new Zadnor actions?

[astral bolt]

I've heard you can buy Mount speed increase with GC seals

[faint flare]

Yes, dps check is basically non existent really

Still gotta do mechanics

[south shuttle]

Mount Speed increases are Allied seals for ARR areas

[faint flare]

That's the biggest block

[south shuttle]

Fair enough

[astral bolt]

There's a difference? Where can I get them?

[halcyon tulip]

Mount speed increases only affect ground speed

[faint flare]

Get what

[twilit arch]

allied seals are gotten from Hunts

[astral bolt]

Oops sorry wrong reply

[twilit arch]

and tbh the second movement speed isn't worth it once you've gotten flying anyway

as it only affects ground speed

flying by default is the fastest speed

[dire prawn]

Yes

wait

Am I dumb or did the question of "is flying faster than ground speed" disappear

[astral bolt]

Yes

He answered my question before i could ask, so I deleted it

Sorry

[clever ether]

!tomes

!poetics

[warm snow]

!faq poetics

[zinc orbit]

What should I spend my Poetics on? How do I get more?

Text guide on what to spend Tomestones of Poetics on

Video guide on how to get more Tomestones of Poetics

[warm snow]

Also#kupo-bot-spam

[clever ether]

Thanks alot Kat!

[random oxide]

Does anyone know if digital time cards have expiry dates, and if yes, how long do they last?

[mental garnet]

do the preferred servers change on every patch, or just the major .x numbers? like will they change after 5.57?

[alpine shadow]

definetly

[outer mural]

every patch to my knowledgfe

[mental garnet]

dang

[outer mural]

so it will change at 5.57

it changed with 5.55

[dire prawn]

The next change is at 5.57 yeah

[mental garnet]

gotcha

[dire prawn]

Sometime in July

[outer mural]

nah it's changing this tuesday

[alpine shadow]

hotfix patches does not count for server change though

[dire prawn]

Probably

[outer mural]

we're getting a new patch

[dire prawn]

Wait what

5.56?

[outer mural]

yeah

[dire prawn]

Fuck

[outer mural]

or .7, idk if they skipped

[dire prawn]

Time to level my catgirl and hope Bryn is still preferred

[outer mural]

it is certainly a patch though

[warm snow]

5.57 is Tuesday

[alpine shadow]

just hope your server gets congested

and you can transfer free to a preferred server

[outer mural]

does it give you the bonus if you transfer

[dire prawn]

But you won't have the 70 buff right

[outer mural]

or rather, keep

[alpine shadow]

i am not quite sure about that, so maybe you don't get it no

[leaden ginkgo]

what percent do you guys keep your UI settings at ?

[outer mural]

yeah i don't think it keeps

it depends on what ui element

i keep my hotbars small af

[leaden ginkgo]

im on a 42 inch tv

[outer mural]

but i keep my boss cast bar and HP big

[leaden ginkgo]

on ps5

[outer mural]

idk, do what's comfortable

[leaden ginkgo]

yea i have most at 90

[outer mural]

but i said what i did for hotbars and boss cast bars

so really up 2 u

[raven star]

What is the quest called where you learn more about the salt place after SB?

It was a side story thing

[blissful ibex]

Hihi, I'm really confused. I stopped playing for a while but before I did I got my Fisher to level 80 and did all the fishing quests. Now, I'm back and there's a lot of skills on my hot bar that can't be used. Like Paitence II, or Double Hook. None of them light up. What do I need to do or am I doing wrong?

[outer mural]

did it involve ||the Sultana||

because i thought that was MSQ

[raven star]

yes

[outer mural]

that was MSQ i believe

post-stormblood?

you talked to Godbert at the table and stuff right

[raven star]

MSQ u set it up, but there was a part where they returned in a side story

[outer mural]

oh i see

[raven star]

I don't know how to google it so i was hoping someone would know

[outer mural]

i would not know then unfortunately, perhaps consult the lists of side-quests or ask in #archived-lore-spoilers if they quite remember

if you know the starting area then that'd be a good place to look

maybe it is in the Lochs

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/The_Lochs_Sidequests

that is the wrong link

there u go

[warm snow]

You're missing your job quests

[blissful ibex]

done them all

[raven star]

I dont think the quest starts there @outer mural

It's a quest where she goes and visits it later after it's set up

[outer mural]

i wouldn't know then hellie

[outer mural]

you should just have access to them and be able to use them

patience 2 just takes a fuckload of GP

you're able to use them as you're fishing right before you actually reel something up

that being said maybe they're old depreciated versions of said skills? if they have a red mark through them

it'd also be best to consult #doh-dol-lounge if nothing else works

[twilit arch]

!quest A Fortune in Salt

[zinc orbit]

A Fortune in Salt

Gyr Abanian Sidequests | Required Level: 70

The perky peddler is expounding on the sublime qualities of Saltery salt.

Quest Starts At

perky peddler
Rhalgr's Reach (X: 12.79 Y: 12.6)

Quest Ends At

Watt
The Lochs (X: 15.77 Y: 25.22)

Required Quests

The Primary Agreement

Images of NPCS by Gamer Escape.

[twilit arch]

@raven star

[raven star]

Thank you!!!!!

[vestal needle]

has yoshi p address anything about our current RNG relic system?

[alpine shadow]

rng?

[viscid fossil]

?

[modest igloo]

not that im aware

[alpine shadow]

oh you mean the aquirement of the memories etc

[vestal needle]

i got 4 memories over 3 hours yesterday

i just got 5 in the past 20 mins

[faint flare]

Welcome to relics

[modest igloo]

i mean the last step had 0 rng

[faint flare]

This is how they are

[viscid fossil]

Which memories?

[modest igloo]

relics are meant to be a time sink, esp wothout blue mage

[vestal needle]

dying

[modest igloo]

18/18 step

[faint flare]

Relics get buffed/nerfed when they're not current

Relics are By design a time sink

Relics are working as intended

People getting babied by the first step

[twilit arch]

they're all called 'of dying;

saying dying doesn't really indicate which step you're on

[viscid fossil]

I just run alliance raid x18 x18

I did it while watching TV shows and movies

[modest igloo]

took me about 150 fates with blue mage

[heavy wadi]

regardless, relics are relics and they are meant to be a grind.

[viscid fossil]

When you grind, just put up YouTube/Prime/Netflix lol

[faint flare]

Let us recall all the runs we had to do for Light grinding before it was nerfed

[tiny crag]

How many fantasia potions can you earn for free in game? Is it just 1?

[faint flare]

1

[modest igloo]

just the 1 ye

[vestal needle]

i guess my issue with it is just not the time but, how different someone time is to others

i finish mine within 2 hours but, my friend took over 10

[faint flare]

Welcome to relics

[tiny crag]

Oh poo, that sucks. Well thanks guys! I'll hold onto mine then for Endwalker. 🙂

[twilit arch]

part of relics and rng in general

[faint flare]

Enjoy your stay

[outer mural]

[twilit arch]

some people get lucky and get their stuff quickly, others take a while

[faint flare]

Especially current relics

Before any nerfs happen

[viscid fossil]

I did not do any RNG part for relic at all lol

I just straight raid runs and dungeons

haha

working on my 6th relic

[twilit arch]

but this relic also has a "100%" option for each step that doesn't involve any rng

[faint flare]

This relic is low lowkey the easiest relic unnerfed

[twilit arch]

but is potentially more time consuming

[faint flare]

Only "bad" step is the DR step

And it's only bad cause people keep bringing useless shit to DR and don't use essences

we don't need 20 fucking people with protect and shell

[jade quartz]

Lost bubble

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[outer mural]

essence of the platebearer moment

[viscid fossil]

:c

[heavy wadi]

mood

[viscid fossil]

ran out

[heavy wadi]

just kill doblyns in bsf

[faint flare]

I do need to cluster farm for more pures

And more cll

...end ether kits so I can keep.dropping 200k broils

[heavy wadi]

this is an absolutely stupid question but

as for the amaro mount/achieve, does blu count for that?

[faint flare]

No

[heavy wadi]

thank you

[boreal storm]

Blu can’t even hit 80...yet

[heavy wadi]

I know

I wouldn't put it past them to include that in the "max all classes" req though

[reef quiver]

What's the quickest way to get a blue mage to 70?

[faint flare]

Get a Friend to.kill lv70 mobs for you

[twilit arch]

blue mage isn't included in the 60/70 achievements

[faint flare]

Outside a party

[twilit arch]

so no, its not going to be retroactive for the amaro

[heavy wadi]

further stupid question, is there a way to make a macro to swap between legacy and normal movement?

[twilit arch]

don't believe so since i don't recall seeing a slash command for it

[celest snow]

in stormblood, when is it you get to the japanese city? i've heard from some people that stormblood has a bit of a rocky start. is it late into the stormblood expansion that you finally visit the japanese city?

[faint flare]

After the first dungeon

Lv61

[celest snow]

oh so it's called kagune?

[faint flare]

Yes

Kugane

[celest snow]

do i miss a lot by speedreading my way to that point?

[faint flare]

The set up and rhe main villan of stormblood

[celest snow]

oh yeah, kugane. read it wrong

||zenos|| right?

[faint flare]

||Yes||

[heavy wadi]

I'd just chill and not speedrun it tbh

you'd miss a lot of setup

[near ermine]

If I use the level 70 boost, will I lose the obtainable artifact armor from job quest?

[celest snow]

ok, looking forward to see more of him. from what i understand so far ||he's the leader of the skulls or right?||

[faint flare]

You'll have to manually get it

[dire prawn]

You can get it from the Calamity Salvager

But the 70 boost comes with a complete set of Augmented Scaevan gear

[faint flare]

||That's Fordola||

[dire prawn]

|| Zenos is the imperial viceroy for Ala Mhigo and oversees both Gyr Abania and Doma ||

[celest snow]

oh ok, then i understand

[leaden ginkgo]

Can someone explain what I have to do for “born again anima”?

[near ermine]

Ok. Thanks.

[celest snow]

thanks for the help btw!!!

[outer mural]

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Complete_Anima_Weapons/Quest @leaden ginkgo

Ardashir sends you off to 3 dungeons, in hopes to understand how to further your anima relic. Unlike most dungeon steps, the Sharpened Anima may be equipped, but does not have to be, as long as it is in the armoury chest or inventory, but you must complete the dungeons as the same job of the Anima Weapon you are currently working for to complete the requirements.

Sohm Al (Hard)
The Great Gubal Library (Hard)
The Lost City of Amdapor (Hard)

Once complete, Ardashir comes up with his strategy to improve the weapon, but it requires you transfer the soulstone of your current relic. This requires two tasks which are not sequential, and can be started/completed simultaneously/separately:

Speak to the Processing Node and complete Repeatable Feature QuestSome Assembly Required
Speak to the Verification Node and gather aetheric density for your anima.

consult the page for the chart

people usually party find a8s unsynced in groups of 5 to 8

5's fine, 8's a literal and figurative party

[gilded forge]

On average, how long is a DR run? Asking for a friend.

[topaz vine]

what are some items that even FT players can get that are valuable to sell on the marketboard?

glamour prisms?

[jade quartz]

Free trial players can't sell on the marketboard

[topaz vine]

i know

but I'm ending FT soon

[gilded forge]

Crafting mats

Crystals

[jade quartz]

With GC seals you can get some crafting materials to sell, such as coke.

[topaz vine]

Do you know how much crystals sell for around?

[gilded forge]

Single use items that crafters will need a lot of

[topaz vine]

(i can't check the marketboard lol)

[outer mural]

40 minutes

[gilded forge]

Perfect, thanks

[fresh gate]

Honestly if you want to make quick cash

[outer mural]

may marginally be faster or slower but most runs i've had are 40 minutes

[fresh gate]

Glam prisms

[topaz vine]

ya i have fat stacks of prisms rn

cuz i keep capping on GC seals

[fresh gate]

You can also use uh

Universalis to check price on certain stuff

[topaz vine]

kk ill check that out thx

[fresh gate]

But most you’ll want to sell is crafting materials and glam prisms

I think it’s only that ? Because those are the easiest to sell and acquire

[empty idol]

how many duties are in expert roulette?

[obsidian patio]

Matoya’s Relict and Pagl’than

[empty idol]

wow

i thought i was really unlucky

why call even it a roulette

it's more of a coin toss

[dire prawn]

MSQ Roulette would like a word with you

Since it's also two :3

[fresh gate]

Because it’s always the last ones released within a patch

Last patch it was Akademia Anyder and Matoya’s relict iirc

[topaz vine]

do people hope for prae or castrum for MSQ? i personally hope for prae even if its longer

[fresh gate]

It’s just a great way to get Tomestones

[sleek needle]

Ya prae is better

[fresh gate]

They give the same XP/minute

So prae is better

[dire prawn]

Prae

[topaz vine]

yeah cuz prae is big netflix chilling time

[dire prawn]

If you get Prae in MSQ roulette that's half a level for free

[sleek needle]

Ya less trash mob pulls and can do something else in cutscenes

[fresh gate]

Castrum is shorter so I just hope for it

[sleek needle]

More annoying imo

[fresh gate]

The boredom that prae inflicts on me is a worse alternative to just getting a quick 15m castrum and I’m out

[dire prawn]

I wish Castrum was 15 mins

[obsidian patio]

I just do chores during praetorium

[dire prawn]

Castrum is like 35 minutes of unending boredom and pain from people not hitting searchlights

[leaden ginkgo]

Do Dark Knights start lvl 50?

[dire prawn]

No

[leaden ginkgo]

sadge

[dire prawn]

Dark Knight, Machinist and Astrologian start at 30

[fresh gate]

They start at 30

[dire prawn]

So you have to level them if you want to do HW MSQ with them

[fresh gate]

Red mage and samurai at 50

And gunbreaker and dancer at 60

[leaden ginkgo]

Guess imma do alot of Hunting Log and fates to get my DK lvl 50 then

oof

[dire prawn]

Uhh

Dungeons

Do lots of dungeons instead

Do your leveling roulette and do dungeons

[leaden ginkgo]

Dungeons have like 20 min queues in my realm

[dire prawn]

Not as a tank they don't

[leaden ginkgo]

No one plays the lower ones

[dire prawn]

And you can't tell me they do

I'm a WAR on primal

So I know how long tank queues are

[leaden ginkgo]

I am a paladin

and i wait 16-20 min

;-;

[dire prawn]

I will

Press F for you

And enjoy my direct crits as WAR

[leaden ginkgo]

I love my sustain andy

Taking no damage and dealing no damage

thats my drip

I wanna main DK because big swords

[fresh gate]

DRK doesn’t get hunting logs

Also alt jobs level faster than your main job till it reaches your main jobs level

Just do roulettes and you’ll get there quickly

[leaden ginkgo]

No hunting logs

sadge

But well

I will do the roulettes then

will be my first "twink"

[fresh gate]

Hunting logs are just for the ARR starting classes

[dire prawn]

Roulette*

You have one roulette as 30 DRK

[fresh gate]

Roulettes

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh damn

lmao

[fresh gate]

You have more than 1

[dire prawn]

You have

One

[fresh gate]

Guildhest

[leaden ginkgo]

I am confused

[fresh gate]

Leveling

Frontlines

[flint bay]

frontline?

[dire prawn]

Two if you picked up a guildhest anywhere

What's frontline roulette

[flint bay]

this is pvp erasure

[fresh gate]

Frontline gives you 1 level worth most of the time

[modest igloo]

frontline roulette is insane XP

[dire prawn]

Maybe

[leaden ginkgo]

i hope

[dire prawn]

But

Then you have to do PvP

[fresh gate]

It is

[leaden ginkgo]

i dont wanna waste any time leveling i wanna do MSQ fast

[fresh gate]

Frontlines is fun

It’s just mindless spamming with a lot of stuff flying

[modest igloo]

thats fair its more for alt classses

[modest igloo]

there is no toxicity or expectations, its ez pz

24v24v24

[dire prawn]

I'm sorry

[fresh gate]

It’s just mindless fun

[dire prawn]

What

[modest igloo]

causes a lot of choas

[fresh gate]

It’s more engaging than Prae too

[dire prawn]

72 people on one map???

How

The fuck

[modest igloo]

72 players all in one isntance

[leaden ginkgo]

Can someone help me level up my white mage please

[dire prawn]

Have you been doing your

[leaden ginkgo]

Yea I’m done with story

[obsidian patio]

Spam your highest level dungeon that’s not level 50/60/70

Healers have fast queues

[dire prawn]

Healers have pretty much instant queues

[leaden ginkgo]

How do healers work are they like in wow where you click one char and heal or are they AOE heals that hit everyone

[fresh gate]

Both

[dire prawn]

Both

And

You do damage

It's not WoW where you don't do damage as a healer

[raven star]

How do you get Yugiris outfit? Or what level job quest

[dire prawn]

If you're not doing damage as a healer you're playing wrong

[fresh gate]

Healers are more like Magic damage dealers that their job is also to heal

[dire prawn]

Or your tank/party is really bad

Or undergeared

[mortal agate]

When do I get my makeover ticket and do I get to rename myself as well?

[dire prawn]

Or both

[leaden ginkgo]

And how do you heal exactly? click and heal or is the heal autotarget

[dire prawn]

Click and heal

Or AoE heal

[fresh gate]

Nope

Renaming is a different service

[halcyon tulip]

Rename costs real money

[obsidian patio]

If you mean her very first outfit when you meet her, you can’t.

[mortal agate]

Oh that's fine

Was just curious

[fresh gate]

At the end of the main story quest for A realm reborn you get your makeover thing

[modest igloo]

target a party member and press the button

[mortal agate]

As long as its possible

[dire prawn]

Does she have a different outfit in Stormblood?

[obsidian patio]

But besides her first outfit she uses either the level 50 or level 70 ninja job sets.

[dire prawn]

I feel like she does

[leaden ginkgo]

Is there a instant lvl 50 heal that i can try out once i hit 50?

or lvl 30 idk

[dire prawn]

Astrologian starts at 30

[raven star]

no her main outfit

[dire prawn]

But you need to get into Ishgard to be able to unlock it

[leaden ginkgo]

Alright thanks for helping out guess imma try heal :P

[fresh gate]

It’s $10 for it

[twilit arch]

iirc she's wearing slightly modified lvl70 NIN AF @raven star

[mortal agate]

And when do I get my free makeover ticket?

[dire prawn]

Is this your first character/job? I'm guessing no right

[raven star]

ty

[leaden ginkgo]

It is my first char i just started 2 days ago i am lvl 42 paladin rn :)

[dire prawn]

You get a free Phial of Fantasia when you complete ARR 2.0

[dire prawn]

I would start with Conjurer/White Mage then, that's the general recommendation if you're planning to switch over to Astrologian later

Plus Conjurer actually starts as a healer

The other one, Scholar, starts as a DPS class

[leaden ginkgo]

I tried a Warrior but leveling from 1 top 40 was heavy annoying

[dire prawn]

mfw I'm 52 WAR

[leaden ginkgo]

xD i am surry xD

I picked Gladiator cuz i thought he would become a warrior later

You had to see my face when i was lvl 30

and so sad i was a pala xD

[dire prawn]

Anyways

[leaden ginkgo]

I should have googled it but i went in blind

stupid

[dire prawn]

Gladiator > Paladin, Marauder > Warrior

[leaden ginkgo]

Yea thats why i wanted to switch cuz i like faster rotation and heavy dmg as tank

And paladin does not die but does not deal big dmg either

Literally cant die

never died

impossible

[dire prawn]

In end-game content Paladin actually has the second highest damage among the tanks

[leaden ginkgo]

Who is first? revolver?

[dire prawn]

Gunbreaker is first because it's a DPS disguised as a tank

[leaden ginkgo]

Yea i also was confused why a gunshooting class was a tank

xD

How many times I do need to clear TEA to get a weapon?

[dire prawn]

Once

[leaden ginkgo]

ty

[dire prawn]

Every clear of any Ultimate gives you a weapon

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh i cant wait to do Ultimates

[leaden ginkgo]

Biddable? Or everyone gets their respective job’s weapon?

[twilit arch]

everyone gets a totem upon clearing

[faint flare]

You get a totem

[leaden ginkgo]

ah

sweet

[dire prawn]

You get a totem that you can turn in for any weapon of your choice

[dire prawn]

Ultimates are by and far the hardest content in XIV to do

[faint flare]

1 per clear

[leaden ginkgo]

Thats why i want to do them i am a Mythic Raider in wow and i would love to see the hardest content in FFXIV

[dire prawn]

Better get damn good at one job then

[leaden ginkgo]

I need to find my main job first ;-;

[dire prawn]

Ultimates, starting from scratch, take on average around 100 hours of practicing to be able to finally clear them

And unless I'm mistaken Unending Coils of Bahamut is the longest one

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[dire prawn]

Good thing you can play all the jobs

[leaden ginkgo]

Yea i want a fast rotation tank to main

[dire prawn]

WAR

[leaden ginkgo]

So i thought DK would be it

[dire prawn]

I think WAR's optimal SkS is like 2.37

[faint flare]

Even then warrior doesn't "feel" fast due to lack of things to weave

[outer mural]

GNB is the fastest from an APM perspective

bc you double weave a lot in ur burst windows

[leaden ginkgo]

GNB is the gun class?

[dire prawn]

Gunsword job

#603040697884475393

[halcyon tulip]

Machinist is the gun job

[leaden ginkgo]

mb thought it was just for free companys @dire prawn

what is the shortest lv 60 dungeon to farm bitter memories

[dire prawn]

Machinist guns are also uglier than shit

[outer mural]

anti-tower, dodo

pf it and hopefully get some blue mages

1 tank 3 DPS is fine, arguably even 4 DPS as well if you have a freeze blu

[leaden ginkgo]

dont have blue

[dire prawn]

Other people do

[leaden ginkgo]

dont have people

[open ember]

You don't need a party of BLU to do speed run anti tower

[leaden ginkgo]

Well make party at pf for that so any blu player can help you out

[open ember]

Just run it thru DF

It'll go by in 10ish minutes

[dire prawn]

Antitower is pretty fast eyah

yeah

[open ember]

If the tank pulls everything

[leaden ginkgo]

dont have people want to do antitower witn blu

Or just go duty finder and speedrun it

[open ember]

I just said you don't need BLU

[royal steeple]

Question, can someone explain this window to me?

[dire prawn]

Green + means you can create characters

[outer mural]

telling you to PF it as a suggestion, can just DF it if you want

[royal steeple]

Trying to figure out which of these is a preferred world

[leaden ginkgo]

ok cool

[dire prawn]

Red X means you can't create characters

[outer mural]

not needed, just a suggestion

[open ember]

BLU is never mandatory ever

[leaden ginkgo]

Thanks

[faint flare]

Ones that say PREFERRED

In big letters

[dire prawn]

All the ones that say Preferred

[royal steeple]

but i cant create characters on them

[jade quartz]

The ones that say preferred are preferred...

[dire prawn]

Which are also all closed

[royal steeple]

thats what i dont understand

LOL

[faint flare]

!faq serverlock

[zinc orbit]

Why can't I enter this server?

Standard, Preferred, and New Servers will dynamically open and close themselves from newly created characters depending on how many players are online. To ensure you're able to make a new character on your server try waiting or doing so at a less active time of day.
Congested Servers will not unlock for new players or transfers until Square Enix removes the Congested Status.

[royal steeple]

why is it preferred if i cant make a character on them

[faint flare]

Temporary character lock

[dire prawn]

Because

It is

[faint flare]

See above

[open ember]

You have to wait until after prime hours to create a character

[dire prawn]

You're trying to play at peak times on a weekend though

[open ember]

Wait until really early in the morning on EU to make a character

[dire prawn]

I'd be surprised if any preferred server is open right now

[royal steeple]

Gotcha

cause i tried making a character on crystal

and it put me on zalera o.o

[leaden ginkgo]

80% of the wow community is joining cuz of dead endgame in wow

[outer mural]

try a few different worlds, it updates dynamically every couple of minutes

[leaden ginkgo]

big rip

[heavy wadi]

crystal is a datacenter

[dire prawn]

Yep

Servers keep breaking because of them too

[ocean swift]

can i pick someone's brain for a bit, i'm very new and very confused

[dire prawn]

Three days ago SE had to fix NA servers like three times in the span of 24 hours

[dire prawn]

This channel and the channel above it are for exactly that

[outer mural]

just feel free to ask Fatweirdo

[dire prawn]

Just ask questions and you'll get answers

[leaden ginkgo]

Yea its insane how many people join i also was forced to join since my whole guild went FFXIV

Bruh wow players make NA server crash lol

Thanks to that savage run doesn't go well with sudden disconnect

[dreamy fjord]

anyone knows why my Sprout Icon went away?

[dire prawn]

yes

You played the game

Congratulations

[halcyon tulip]

Are you in queue?

[dreamy fjord]

i'm but 48

yes, i'm in queue

[dire prawn]

Oh

[leaden ginkgo]

Played the game till shadowbringers

[dire prawn]

That's why then

Your icon changed to the duty icon

It'll switch back after you enter the duty or leave the queue

[leaden ginkgo]

At shadowbringers your sprout icon should be gone

[dreamy fjord]

ah, oky, i see, got scared, i still identify as a noob, being a total noob, ya kno

[outer mural]

your icon will be replaced with a book looking thing that says 'hey i am queueing'

[dire prawn]

Unless you're Aura who spedrun the entire MSQ in 4.5 days

[outer mural]

but you are still a little sproutlet

[leaden ginkgo]

[dreamy fjord]

what's an Aura?

[dire prawn]

A person

Au Ra on the other hand are an in-game race that look like draconic lizard people

[outer mural]

the scaly humanoid playable race yes

[dire prawn]

I'm one

[dreamy fjord]

i'm actually one

[outer mural]

good stuff

[leaden ginkgo]

elf gang

Cat girl gang I guess

The good old catgirl class

[ocean swift]

So is my mission basically just spam out the Main story quests for ARR untill done?

[outer mural]

correct

[ocean swift]

oof

[outer mural]

you do and

pace urself tho

[dire prawn]

For ARR, HW, SB and ShB until done

And when it comes out EW

[ocean swift]

is it worth swapping jobs or just max out the one i started with then worry about lvling a diff one?

[leaden ginkgo]

Free trial is till 60 and after that i just buy the game and it includes 30 day gametime

right?

[outer mural]

yes

bsae game gives 30 days

[dire prawn]

30 bucks

[leaden ginkgo]

18 in instantgaming tho

[dire prawn]

I wish I got paid to buy a game

[outer mural]

up to you

you can play one job or play all of them

[dire prawn]

18 what

[outer mural]

you can level up a diff job to where u are in the MSQ and continute from there

[leaden ginkgo]

18 Euro

[outer mural]

really up to you if you want to

[slow timber]

can anyone help me? i bought the endwalker collectors edition on steam, but the code isnt working, i received 2 codes, the pre-order code and the collectors edition code, the pre-order code worked, but when i try to activate the collectors edition code, it says that my code is invalid

[faint flare]

That's normal

You're not meant to have the collectors code itself

None else does

[dire prawn]

Is that a third party

[faint flare]

Only steam people

You physically can't put thst code in yet

[outer mural]

that's europe

[leaden ginkgo]

Yea instantgaming is basically selling games for 40-50% sometimes even 70% of price

[outer mural]

oh i see

[dire prawn]

That's 18 euro to get banned then

[slow timber]

bc here says that i dont have the collectors edition

[outer mural]

yes

you need to enter the code to get it

but you cannot enter the code yet

[slow timber]

oh

[outer mural]

keep the code in a safe place

[leaden ginkgo]

Its a Gamecode that you can enter to get the game its not banable and its a verified site to buy keys

[slow timber]

only when the expansion release?

[outer mural]

a bit before

[faint flare]

Yes

Again

[leaden ginkgo]

FFXIV literally has a enter key code option

[faint flare]

Youre not meant to have that code yet

Cause you physically can't enter it

[slow timber]

I see

thank you

[trail elk]

whats the highest location in ishgard?

[leaden ginkgo]

Now the question is when i buy the complete edition now do i get the newest upcomming expansion 2? or should i wait till that is also in the complete edition

[faint flare]

Only in November

If you buy then

[trail elk]

the complete edition will never have endwalker

[faint flare]

No

It will

In November

When it's update for it

[leaden ginkgo]

So i need to buy complete edition AND endwalker?

Oh

[faint flare]

If.you want everything now

[trail elk]

endwalker costs like alot as it is

[true cosmos]

Hi

[leaden ginkgo]

How much does Endwalker cost?

[trail elk]

what he's saying is the complete edition will not have endwalker

[faint flare]

40$

As always

[trail elk]

but if you buy endwalker

[true cosmos]

What can I do with the gear that I don't use anymore?

[trail elk]

you get the previous expansions

with it

[faint flare]

Complete edition WILL have endwalker

In November

[leaden ginkgo]

Wanna buy it now >///<

[faint flare]

Complete edition WILL be updated in November to include it

[true cosmos]

Still free trial so I'm running really low on i-space

[trail elk]

even if it does, i doubt it's gona cost the same

[faint flare]

It will

[trail elk]

it's on sale right now

probably wont be in november

[faint flare]

The price by default is ALWAYS 60$

It didn't raise with shadowbringers

Won't raise with endwalker

[ocean swift]

What's good leveling to do while waiting for a queue? Rando quests or just killing mobs (16min into a Cape westwind queue rn)

[outer mural]

40 for expansion alone, 20 with base game
60 for both if you have neither

[faint flare]

Expansions are always $40

[outer mural]

yes

[leaden ginkgo]

Sell it or throw it away or store it on chocobo saddlebag (if it's accessible on FT)

[outer mural]

hunting log on an alternate class if you're trying to level one up

then fates

[trail elk]

i got the complete edition for 20 bucks on sale

[faint flare]

Good for you

[outer mural]

if it's dungeon gear try to give it to your grand company

if not rank up

[leaden ginkgo]

So if i buy the complete edition now that goes till Shadowbringers i can play till lvl 80?

[outer mural]

it's a monetary gain to turn it int oyour company

[trail elk]

i think it's still on sale

[outer mural]

yes eto

it is no longer on sale

[trail elk]

so id say to buy it right now

[faint flare]

The sale ended on the 9th

[leaden ginkgo]

Yea rip i started 2 late

[true cosmos]

Okay, ty.

[leaden ginkgo]

very sad

[outer mural]

summer sale is coming up

[leaden ginkgo]

I will buy the complete edition then level my classes to 80 and wait for a sale for newest expansion

[trail elk]

btw

id only buy endwalker if you want everthing

cause the trial includes hw

[faint flare]

No

[leaden ginkgo]

40€ is rough

[faint flare]

That doesn't work

[trail elk]

so endwalker will have stormblood and shadow bringer i think

[faint flare]

You still need starter edition

Ontop of endwalker

If you're willing to wait

[twilit arch]

trial does not give you ownership of the game

[true cosmos]

I managed to grab it on the 9th 😄 Still haven't used the code tho. I've only just finished the 2.0 msq

[faint flare]

Trial isn't ownership

[trail elk]

i used my code cause i wanted samurai

[leaden ginkgo]

So i need the complete edition anyway?

[trail elk]

i couldnt wait for it

[twilit arch]

complete edition is just buying everything in one neat package.

[true cosmos]

Haha I hear ya. Tho all of the jobs I've playes so far have been fun

[trail elk]

so u need to own HW to play stormblood

?

[twilit arch]

yes

[faint flare]

Basically

Starter edition gives ownership of arr and heavensward.

Shadowbringers gives you stormblood and shadowbringers

Complete edition I'd all the above

Endwalker gives you stormblood and shadowbringers In November

[leaden ginkgo]

When will Endwalker release?

[dire prawn]

You're November?

Huh

November 23

[faint flare]

November

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh i have alot of time then

nice to hear

19th November for who pre ordered endwalker for early access

[shrewd crescent]

Is a 10% exp boost really that much?
I have an alt character in the same fc, and I’m thinking of maybe having my alt leaving that fc.

[dire prawn]

Yes

[outer mural]

it is better than not having it

[leaden ginkgo]

Exp boost is always worth it

[faint flare]

It's free estate

[outer mural]

yeah there's zero opportunity cost for actually having it so it's really if you don't want the alt in the FC or hwatever

[royal steeple]

hmm I think i'm going to keep refreshing and hope I get lucky lol

[outer mural]

yeah keep it going man

might be a while bc the game's been really popping off

[royal steeple]

I should've done this before

i mean i have an alt in primal and my main's in aether

but a friend wanted me to play in crystal

[outer mural]

[royal steeple]

so i'd prefer leveling twice as fast ideally lmao

[leaden ginkgo]

Wait for cross DC travel I guess

[royal steeple]

I could but it'll be a bit

so i might as well just make a toon here

cause i dont really have anything else to do in the game lol

[daring bone]

Any decent ways to make gil for a new player? im lvl 78 and need to make like 2 mil gil for a house at least

[royal steeple]

i mean, that's partially a lie, I could level my other classes to 80 but...

idk, i dont really feel like leveling classes i dont enjoy playing

uh, roulettes

and crafting

[outer mural]

1. level a gatherer to 70-ish, collect timeworn gazelleskin maps once a day, sell for 50k a pop

2. craft and find a market to exploit

3. https://youtu.be/QSnpLJDNZ5w

4. sell random shit you find from your retainer
   last one
5. eureka / bozja farm

[daring bone]

thanks will look into what you suggested

[dire prawn]

I will press F for you

[outer mural]

like when you load into a hub or when you just log onto the char screen

[halcyon tulip]

Reinstall might be needed

[outer mural]

reinstall might be needed then, or check with #technology-discussion

[jade quartz]

Hold up no

You can log into character screen fine but get booted when you try to load into the actual game?

[outer mural]

actually yeah i probably should've been more specific

hm

what area were you last trying to load into?

[jade quartz]

That’s been a problem for some people over the past two weeks. There are mild server issues going on.

[true cosmos]

I'd like to join a guild.. I'm on ragnarok

[outer mural]

i mean the particular area your character was in before

[true cosmos]

Where should I go with that?

[outer mural]

check out the recruitment channel for chaos

also

[jade quartz]

Yeah cities have been a problem

[outer mural]

!faq communityfinder

[zinc orbit]

FFXIV Community Finder

Use the official Community Finder to find Free Companies, Linkshells, and PvP Teams!

Click here to visit the Community Finder

[jade quartz]

Seems to be hitting different places at different times

[heavy wadi]

Yeah cities, and instances have been really awful for me.

[jade quartz]

Try back in half an hour or so and hopefully it will have cleared up

[true cosmos]

thx!

[outer mural]

i am liable to believe it may be a graphics thing as a possibility as well
if it's the sea area (limsa) then you may also just want to lower your settings

[jade quartz]

I had it pretty rough last week but it’s been smooth since

[heavy wadi]

ngl this may drive me to get exitlag...

[jade quartz]

Seems to be affecting different areas at different times

[outer mural]

though it's most likely what Lyon said

[heavy wadi]

Definitely not graphics, I've had no issues before 5.55

[outer mural]

hm okay
had some crashes on higher settings in limsa similar to that issue

[jade quartz]

There have been a few smallish mass disconnects and things

Like everyone in a certain zone gets dced

[heavy wadi]

rn the main problem area seems to be zadnor for me, which is... just great <.<

[outer mural]

Lyon, does the DCing just result in a crash straight-up?

that's... a really weird issue if that is the case

[jade quartz]

Uh

Shouldn’t

I haven’t experienced that

[hallow iron]

yea I've been playing fine but today even the Launcher takes forever to just load to login, and then when i try and wait for it to say play game it just errors out

[jade quartz]

Or heard of it

[outer mural]

this is what waffle was experiencing though

not sure if i am misunderstanding what you were explaining but i'm just asking rn to make sure

[onyx anchor]

how do i leave the NN?

[heavy wadi]

sometimes I have had the game crash because of that, but mostly due to mods, not just base game stuff

[jade quartz]

I did have some weird load time issues that lasted forever though

It’s a weird time

[remote lintel]

is there some kind of trolling trend going around to prevent people teleporting

[outer mural]

i'm liable to believe that it isn't the server being weird

[jade quartz]

I’d still advise trying to wait for it to pass first

[heavy wadi]

yeah there's something fucky about routing

[outer mural]

yeah still a good idea to wait

[jade quartz]

As it seems like part of a trend

[onyx anchor]

can you leave the novice network?

[heavy wadi]

I've been avoiding a lot of content because of it but now I'm lagging in the overworld too

[remote lintel]

@onyx anchor yes

[outer mural]

You can actually leave the chat. When you are looking at the chat window, there are several buttons in the bottom. Look for the button with a leaf and it shows who is currently in novice network when you click on it. There is a leave button to exit the chat.

[jade quartz]

/novicenetworkleave

Simple chat command

[outer mural]

oddly specific command but appreciated to have

[onyx anchor]

ty

[spice quarry]

i cant open the game from the launcher, like the play button doesnt show up and the server status icon is black, is that happening for anyone else?

[old sigil]

Aye. Same here D:

[heavy wadi]

you're the second person to ask that in like 20 minutes O.O

I'd try restarting the launcher a few times

[spice quarry]

D:

i did

[heavy wadi]

if not then maybe your pc?

[outer mural]

[spice quarry]

doesnt work 😦

[outer mural]

THE TREND

[jade quartz]

There have been server issues going around lately

This could potentially also be a manifestation of that

[spice quarry]

i got d/c a lot last night and now cant connect at all

[leaden ginkgo]

on the desynth screen, why is one crafters name purple?

[heavy wadi]

you have a specialization for it

[leaden ginkgo]

oh that’s right

can i get a balance discord link ?

[twilit arch]

!faq balance

[zinc orbit]

The Balance

Discord

[leaden ginkgo]

appreciate it

[spice quarry]

I got in! I had to wait like 10-15 mins for the play button to finally show up

[old sigil]

Play button's Hidden buff was dispelled for me just now

[oblique glacier]

Hello I started using the ffxiv companion and I applied a glamour plate today, but in the character page at the app it doesnt show me the glamour:/ how do i update it??

[halcyon tulip]

Just wait

[oblique glacier]

Oh it updates automatically?

[remote lintel]

the lodestone updates every several hours

[jade quartz]

Your lodestone character profile (which is what the companion app pulls from) only updates a few times a day

[spark jacinth]

I’m on the free trial. Im starting to run out of armoury and inventory space. Advice?

[dire prawn]

Are you leveling multiple jobs?

[spark jacinth]

Currently have whm and drg at 51. Started with pld but he’s low and considering starting another job too

[dire prawn]

If you get your GC rank to I believe Sergeant Second Class you can turn in dungeon gear for GC seals

[obsidian patio]

You can use the glamour dresser as a storage space of sorts

But you need to pay glamour prisms to put gear in there

[dire prawn]

You can also use your chocobo's saddlebags

[spark jacinth]

Is it worth keeping low level weapons?

[dire prawn]

No

[spark jacinth]

Thank you

[dire prawn]

Unless they're for a class you're planning to level

Otherwise no

[unkempt hull]

I'm having issues with the launcher - as soon as I log in, the play button disappears

[dire prawn]

Yes

A number of people are

[jade quartz]

Yep several people are having that issue, it’s an issue with connecting to the version check server

[unkempt hull]

hmm

[remote lintel]

just wait

[leaden ginkgo]

how do I get an materia enhanced aeolian scimatar? I'm a bit confused

[old sigil]

I've had this issue a few minutes ago and, my only advice is to keep trying. Mine appeared eventually after a few tries.

[jade quartz]

Try restarting the launcher until it works, or just waiting it out

[remote lintel]

@leaden ginkgo get an aeolian scimitar and put materia in it

[unkempt hull]

it's there now, just had to wait

[leaden ginkgo]

aeolian scimatar would be a sword right?

[remote lintel]

yes a weapon

[zinc orbit]

Automated Message: A Friendly Moogle Reminder

This channel is for new or returning players to ask questions about Final Fantasy XIV. As a reminder this channel is a troll free and an off-topic free zone. For general discussion please use #general-discussion or #beginner-lounge. <@&473626701947994134> are available to help in this channel. Thank-You, Kupo!

[jade quartz]

Search for it on the marketboard

[leaden ginkgo]

how much would it be on the market?

[remote lintel]

go look

[leaden ginkgo]

ok

[jade quartz]

!market primal aeolian scimitar

[zinc orbit]

Current Prices for Aeolian Scimitar on Primal

Quantity / Price

37,800 x1 [Exodus]
38,640 x1 [Exodus]
39,899 x1 [Exodus]
42,000 x1 [Exodus]
42,000 x1 [Exodus]
42,002 x1 [Exodus]
43,470 x1 [Famfrit]
43,470 x1 [Famfrit]
43,487 x1 [Famfrit]
43,628 x1 [Famfrit]

Total Price

37,800
38,640
39,899
42,000
42,000
42,002
43,470
43,470
43,487
43,628

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[thin finch]

Does this server have an LFG channel? I can't find one

[jade quartz]

#recruitment-aether

[thin finch]

That's for like statics though isn't it

[faint flare]

No

[thin finch]

oh ok

[jade quartz]

It’s for any kind of recruitment

[topaz vine]

what do i do when the login thing doesn't show up

i've restarted my comp

[obsidian patio]

there's also the in-game party finder

[thin finch]

True

[jade quartz]

Wait it out or try again. Server issues.

[topaz vine]

rip

[dire prawn]

Lyon

How bad or not bad would you say early ACN leveling is before you get your SMN stone

[topaz vine]

feels BAD

i just did PoTD

[faint flare]

Tbh I like low lvl smn more than other jobs

[obsidian patio]

POTD is a bad gauge of how good jobs are, due to how fast things die.

[faint flare]

Cause you have shit to weave

[dire prawn]

I was about to say

[obsidian patio]

They don't stay alive long enough for your dots to actually matter outside of bosses for the most part

[topaz vine]

i did PoTD because it felt bad

[dire prawn]

[topaz vine]

ruin 1 and bio are so bad

[faint flare]

Bio and Miasma are good

[obsidian patio]

You get a pretty decent power spike at 30 with bane, which spreads your dots to all nearby targets

[topaz vine]

idk what you're comparing it to but the DoT is so small

if we're talking about ACN

[outer mural]

it's stronger for 1gcd when you cast it than a ruin

[faint flare]

!action bio

[zinc orbit]

**Bio** : lvl 2 ACN SMN (400 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Deals unaspected damage over time.
Potency: 20
Duration: 30s

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[outer mural]

so if the enemy will sruvive the entire duration it's work putting on

[faint flare]

It's 200 potency

For the whole thing

• buffs fester

[topaz vine]

taking 30 seconds to kill mobs is pretty much the definition of bad

[faint flare]

!action Ruin

[zinc orbit]

**Ruin** : lvl 1 ACN SMN (200 MP) (2.5 second cooldown)(2.5 second base cast time)

Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 180.

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[outer mural]

that is every other job as well fwiw

so you're not really being fair here lmao

[faint flare]

Every job that has a dot has that thing

Like bard

[topaz vine]

a lot of classes dont have a 2.5 second cast time on their main dmg ability

[twilit arch]

2.5 gcd is the standard for all jobs

[outer mural]

doesn't mean arcanist is bad

[oak ice]

Yeah, they do

[faint flare]

They have the reverse of it

[jade quartz]

Casters do

[faint flare]

So they do actually

[jade quartz]

Arcanist is not bad

[topaz vine]

i said cast time

not GCD

[jade quartz]

Casters have cast times

[outer mural]

you can not like it and that's fine but this feels rather nitpicky for saying the class is bad

[faint flare]

It's basically the same thing

[twilit arch]

yeah and you're basically casting for the duration of the gcd so its not like its really that bad

[faint flare]

It's front loading vs back loading

[topaz vine]

idk what you guys are using as definition of bad though

there are several downsides to ACn

compared to a lot of classes

[jade quartz]

There aren’t really.

[outer mural]

can you elaborate

[topaz vine]

You also have to cast physick during fights

[faint flare]

You kill before the dots fully do their thing

[topaz vine]

which is another dmg loss

[twilit arch]

you do not

[oak ice]

The only real downside to ACN is pets being fucking stupid

[faint flare]

Cause festers risk good

[jade quartz]

The only annoyance is emerald carbuncle pulling extra mobs

[twilit arch]

and if you're casting physick something is going wrong

[faint flare]

LOL physick

[jade quartz]

No you do not

[faint flare]

Imagine binding physick

[jade quartz]

And you should not

[obsidian patio]

Arcanist should never be in a situation in regular content to cast physick

[outer mural]

generally if you are using all of your abilities in the right sequence and off cooldown you should be killing stuff faster

[oak ice]

Physick heals for 700 hp at level 80

[jade quartz]

You demonstrate your ignorance of the class by saying that

[outer mural]

i feel like you are not using your regualr skills correctly

[topaz vine]

i feel like you guys haven't leveled acn recently lol

[faint flare]

I have

[modest igloo]

i did

[faint flare]

On an alt

[modest igloo]

was fine

[oak ice]

Mine is 80

[heavy wadi]

mine is also 80

[modest igloo]

as is mine

[faint flare]

You literally dot things and nuke them with fester

Dead in like 3 gcda

[twilit arch]

I replayed thru the msq on an alt, recently and started as arcanist

[faint flare]

After dotting

[topaz vine]

try taking on a couple of mobs at level 10-20 without casting physick

[twilit arch]

so yeah i have

[outer mural]

as a person with all 80 classes i sure i hope i know what i'm talking about when i talk about early arcanist, especially considering it was my first class

[faint flare]

Just fester lol

[heavy wadi]

that's overworld stuff

[faint flare]

Don't be trash

[jade quartz]

Should be fine yes

[obsidian patio]

take them one on one and use titan-egi

[oak ice]

You don't have to take on multiple mobs at the same time

[obsidian patio]

Topaz/Titan-Egi's first egi assault gives you a beefy shield

[topaz vine]

ok so you're unable to take on more than one mob

[jade quartz]

Other classes can’t do it at all

[outer mural]

they did not say that

[topaz vine]

is that not a downside of ACN right there

[jade quartz]

No

[oak ice]

How did you infer that?

[twilit arch]

There's no reason to take on multiple mobs at the same time tho