questions-and-help

[wispy parcel]

in my experience the drop rates are the same for most dungeons

[bright sorrel]

Ah okay, that at least gives me a rough idea! I must be getting unlucky 👌

Thank you!

[verbal rune]

What difference is there from the two set you can get per class witj allagan tomestone at lvl 60?

[remote lintel]

ilvl

[proud willow]

one is strictly better stats than the other

They came out in different patches

[verbal rune]

Oh

So go for the second?

[twilit arch]

yep

[atomic gulch]

Do new story content come in big patches or do they only come in expansions?

[faint flare]

Big patches as well

Every major patch brings story continuation

5.4 will have more story, same with 5.5

[wintry chasm]

(5.5 story gets split into two patches even, 5.5 and 5.55)

[astral jewel]

What’s the best way to level up a job from 70 to 80? Is it still duty roulette?

[patent citrus]

im doing bozja atm

[faint flare]

Roulettes, dungeons, bojza, beast tribes

[patent citrus]

just join critical engagement and fates

fast and got mettles and fragments

[astral jewel]

I haven’t unlocked bojza

[patent citrus]

ah then keep going on msq till you unlock it

[astral jewel]

I finished msq already

For 5.3

[magic wren]

What is the first thing to do after finishing up post Shb? I feel like I missed a lot of content just doing msq, I feel overwhelmed!

[patent citrus]

finish all the blue quests?

[modest igloo]

Raids are next, as well as unlocking Bozjan

blue quests as well

[magic wren]

Dang, I think I should do raids. I didnt even do them for HW and onward

Then Bozja and then blue quests

I guess I'll start in Uldah becuase theres a lot i missed

[open ember]

!faq unlock

!faq contentunlock

[zinc orbit]

Content Location FAQ

A Realm Reborn Content
Heavensward Content
Stormblood Content
Shadowbringers Content

[open ember]

there we go

[modest igloo]

the Alexander and Omega raids slap hard

[open ember]

@magic wren

[remote lintel]

the storm blood alliance raids are important for bozja

[plain python]

you cannot buy 100,000 gil items for Zodiac weapon without the quest?

[obsidian patio]

If it’s your first relic then you need to reach that stage

After that you can buy them whenever

[leaden ginkgo]

are fates or bozjan faster to upgrade the resistance weapon?

[faint flare]

Bojza if you're in a smart group

[obsidian patio]

With how bozja loot drops work you can split a party into two groups to get two types of memory at once

[faint flare]

Or have multiple bloodsucker warriors spread ou acrosd the zone killing their own mass pulls

[frozen girder]

So later on, in the Nier dungeons for example, you can only claim one of each unique item?

[faint flare]

Puppet bunker is weekly locked

[frozen girder]

Or is that just for the first few dungeons

[faint flare]

1 gear piece a week

[frozen girder]

What about the automatons

[faint flare]

Only the latest 24man is weekly locked, which is removed next patch

[frozen girder]

Can you get 2 automatons

[faint flare]

Minions, music and extra items aren't on the weekly lockout

[frozen girder]

So you can get 2 of the same minion?

[obsidian patio]

You can’t roll on untradeable minions you’ve already used

[plush hound]

Minions are only one, you will never be able to reroll if you claimed it. Triple Triad cards and music rolls can be claimed multiple times.

[faint flare]

Not if its untradeable because the game errors you

[frozen girder]

I see

So you can't get them and sell them >_>

[faint flare]

No

[frozen girder]

I want to have 2B following me now

[faint flare]

Only dungeon minions are usually sellable

[frozen girder]

Is it true that in the beta there was a plant that had such a high render quality it lagged the entire game? :3

[patent citrus]

yeah i believed so

[obsidian patio]

Not quite,

[patent citrus]

i wouldn't call 1.0 beta? or is it?

[obsidian patio]

What you’re probably referring to are the flowerpots in 1.0, which basically had the same amount of polygons as a player

So for each flower pot it was as if there was always a player at that location

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_740/s4qtjqp4icnhawszgq5v.jpg

[leaden ginkgo]

I need to cap my allegory before reset; Which duties do this best? I can't hunt train because I dont have flying unlocked in enough spots.

[obsidian patio]

Do expert roulette if you haven’t already

[robust crow]

run everything as a level 80

[obsidian patio]

After that just spam Anamnesis Anyder and Heroes Gauntlet

[robust crow]

most of the roulettes give allegory if you run as a max level

[outer plank]

do macros not work with draw?

ive tried dragging it to my bar but it just replaces it with the normal one

[obsidian patio]

They do work on draw

Also that macro is entirely unnecessary. You can just look at the color border of the card to know who to give it to

[outer plank]

even the seal?

ah

i see it

[patent citrus]

what's echo again?

[outer plank]

been so long since i played ast

[frozen girder]

Just hit level 40!!!

[obsidian patio]

You can look at the seal to see the color too

[frozen girder]

Still haven't started my 2nd class quest 🤔

[patent citrus]

can you see the other people's echo?

[obsidian patio]

@patent citrus in terms of gameplay mechanics, it’s a stat boost given for specific duties at the start or when you fail enough

[patent citrus]

i mean the one in the macro 😂

sorry, i didn't state it more specific

[obsidian patio]

Oh, echo is only for you

[patent citrus]

i see nais

so that macro is kinda remind isaiah which card is which

[outer plank]

so if the boarder is blue, its for melee/tanks

if its purple

for healers/ranged

?

[obsidian patio]

Yep

[outer plank]

ok makes sense

and essentially for the seals, im just trying to play bingo and matching 3 seals together?

[remote lintel]

yes

3 unique seals

[outer plank]

using lady and lord card for seals i dont want. AH unique

got it

[remote lintel]

@frozen girder do your class quests

youre still a thaumaturge at lvl 40

when you should have changed to black mage at 30

[patent citrus]

yeh, job quest is very important hehe

[outer plank]

@patent citrus well would, i just didnt know about the colored boarder

[frozen girder]

:3

[outer plank]

(*its what i did when ast first came out awhile ago)

[frozen girder]

I'm trying to get my mount ASAP

[patent citrus]

it's ok you are better than me, i've been casting it to random dps for a while now

without caring which is which 😂

[remote lintel]

mounts are story locked

[frozen girder]

Yeah

That's why I'm ignoring class quests

And only doing story

[obsidian patio]

Class quests give you actions for your job

[frozen girder]

As soon as I join a GC I'll go catch up on class quests

[remote lintel]

are you on a preferred world

[frozen girder]

Yes

[outer plank]

@frozen girder bro, you get 2 skills at 15 and 30, then from 30+ you get a new skill every 5 levels

press p

see all those skills that are greyed out

[obsidian patio]

Oh then that’s natural. I think I was like 35 when I hit Ifrit on my alt

[outer plank]

those are skills from your job quest

[frozen girder]

Yeah

[spare plinth]

Do you need to complete 5.1 to unlock Eden verse?

[frozen girder]

How did I get an extra 15 days?

._.

[remote lintel]

by hitting lvl 30 on preferred

@spare plinth just shb iirc

[frozen girder]

Oh haha

When do I get the recruitment code rewards?

[spare plinth]

I know for edens promise 5.3 needs to be completed

[remote lintel]

when you buy days

[frozen girder]

Wait so I can get that now

Just by buying days >_<

[remote lintel]

i'm pretty sure it waits until you use up your free days

[frozen girder]

oh

:(

I want the hat that gives like 12% more exp

[remote lintel]

it wont add much if you already have road to 70

[frozen girder]

Lul

Honestly all the stuff you get after 30 days of starting

Is like.. only usefull in the first week

[remote lintel]

because theyre made to help new players

thats the point of the RAF code

[obsidian patio]

The hat is still good for leveling up other classes

[frozen girder]

Up to level 25 >_<

@remote lintel if you only get them after playing for 30 days

Then it's too late to use them XD

After 30 days, you'll have plenty of gil to not need Aetheryte tickets

_<

[remote lintel]

the tickets are ok

[twilit arch]

tickets are still nice

[remote lintel]

theyre good for teleporting between 999g places

[obsidian patio]

I’ve been teleporting for free since the start of stormblood. I’ve probably saved over 2m with all the teleporting I’ve done

[vernal urchin]

if you use the tickets when the teleport is 999, then you can save almost 100k gil

[frozen girder]

How do you get tickets other than this quest

_<

[faint flare]

Allied seals

Aka hunts, lv50+ thing

[leaden ginkgo]

hey so im trying to sign up for an account but i keep getting an error telling me i dont have access

[frozen girder]

I see

Do it on your phone

I had that error too

[leaden ginkgo]

Error i2501

it didnt work on my phone either

[remote lintel]

try a different browser

[leaden ginkgo]

im in ghana trying to sign up for an account on eu servers

[remote lintel]

disable ad/popup blockers

[leaden ginkgo]

lets see if that works

[oblique trellis]

What's this guy's problem? No training, or missions... I think he's dying

[remote lintel]

hes tired

[leaden ginkgo]

i have to use a temp mail since its locked out all of my email addresses smh

[oblique trellis]

He's constantly tired, but I haven't had them do anything for days 😄

[manic flare]

@oblique trellis who is he again?

[oblique trellis]

someone in my Squadron

[remote lintel]

he hasnt done his cardio

[leaden ginkgo]

didnt work in a separate browser either

am i just doomed to be unable to play :(

[oblique trellis]

Cardio would just make him more tired 😄 But srsly tho is there something I'm supposed to do with him? He has literally been like this for days with no missions or training happening

[faint flare]

No

[obsidian patio]

That’s just how they are

[faint flare]

They just randomly pose

[twilit arch]

no its just one of the possible idle stances they take

[oblique trellis]

Why is he glowing blue?

[faint flare]

His armour

[twilit arch]

its the gear

[oblique trellis]

oh

oh well, he can die

[remote lintel]

@leaden ginkgo trying using your phones hotspot wifi?

[leaden ginkgo]

does anyone else know a way to fix i2501

[leaden ginkgo]

tried that too

doesnt work

[remote lintel]

🤔

[patent citrus]

yeh, it's like one of employees just pretending to be busy/tired all the time so the boss won't caught them slacking up

[leaden ginkgo]

i think its my country

[remote lintel]

i would ask #technology-discussion

oh right

disable vpns if you have them

[leaden ginkgo]

did

tried with and without

[remote lintel]

yeah ask tech

[leaden ginkgo]

so sad

[frozen girder]

Does it matter what GC I join?

[remote lintel]

no

[patent citrus]

just glamour

[remote lintel]

do you like pirates, forest people, or desert people

[frozen girder]

Pirates!

[remote lintel]

good

[frozen girder]

So I'm joining Maelstrom?

[remote lintel]

yes

[fast talon]

oh hey the server picture changed

anyway, is there a way to preview orchestrion scrolls in-game before buying them from shops/crafting them

'cause i just unlocked the tome exchange for SB and noticed they were selling orchestrion scrolls for 1600 tomes

[frozen girder]

Not in game but Youtube

Not sayign it's not in game

I'm just saying that Youtube is a way

Idk if it's in game

[fast talon]

ah okay

i know garland tools has it too actually, like 15s snippets

[faint flare]

Only if someone else owns the orchestion

And plays it

[remote lintel]

^

[faint flare]

Orchestions are usually just music from parts of the game

[fast talon]

okay, guess i'll just look them up then

[remote lintel]

or if your fc has it and you ran to the fc house and loaded it up

[patent citrus]

and here i thought the ast hotbar is gonna be bloated because of these card system

[fast talon]

I know but it's not like I know the tracks by name. Usually I just call it like "Shivas Theme" "Ishgard Theme" "That one track FFXIV always uses when something dramatic happens"

[patent citrus]

but after comparing it to my sch, my sch is more bloated 🤦‍♂️

[remote lintel]

just put the title into youtube

[fast talon]

admittedly i've started avoiding looking up tracks on YT cuz then i get spoiled by YT recommendations lol, like i was listening to Alexander's tracks cuz i think they're great and next thing i know im being recommended tracks from SB and ShB bosses

[fast talon]

yeah scholar is way worse as far as hotbars go

[remote lintel]

the tracks are also on spotify

except shb

but youre not there anyway

[fast talon]

yeah a buddy of mine recently found a playlist full of em, awesome

[faint flare]

Well you can look the title and then not click the video, and usually thumbnails show you where its from or general srea

Generally

[fast talon]

ngl the music of ffxiv is a large part of what keeps me going lol its so good

[lyric garden]

do yall think there is gonna be a better sale on christmas since nobody cares about thanksgiving or?

[faint flare]

I think some people like dudewhereisspoon anf stuff is good for that

[remote lintel]

@lyric garden we had a black friday sale

[lyric garden]

oh? i didn't see that on steam

[fast talon]

do you mean the game or stuff on mogstation

[lyric garden]

wait should I use the main launcher or steam?

im not sure

[fast talon]

'cause i kept checking mogstation on black friday and nothing new was on sale other than the heavens wardrobe

[patent citrus]

well main launcher if you can...

[remote lintel]

what did you buy it on

steam?

[hasty musk]

the autumn sale is literally still going on steam rn

[remote lintel]

so is the black friday sale

[fast talon]

okay so you meant the game itself, i was hoping for a mogstation sale, like fantasias and stuff

im still holding out on hope they go on sale in xmas

[remote lintel]

dont we all

[faint flare]

They probably might for Christmas

[fast talon]

actually, i have ShB, what do i gain, if anything, from thecollectors edition

[remote lintel]

collectors? or complete?

collectors is digital cosmetics

[fast talon]

collectors

i think i already have the complete game unless i messed up in a major way lol

[remote lintel]

you can look at the collectors edition contents on mog station

its different for each expac

[patent citrus]

if i have complete edition on pc, and i buy collector complete edition for ps4/ps5

will i get the 30 free sub? 😂 +collector edition?

[remote lintel]

i believe so

[patent citrus]

for both my pc and ps4

[zinc orbit]

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[patent citrus]

collector edition upgrade is €49.99 😂

[fast talon]

wait so the collector's edition bonuses are different per xpac

so if i only get the ShB one i wouldnt be able to get the stuff from ARR -> SB?

[remote lintel]

there is a collectors edition for each expac

if you only buy shb collectors

you only get shb items

[fast talon]

I see

[remote lintel]

it doesnt lock you out of the other collectors editions

it just means you only bought shb's

[obsidian patio]

What each collector’s edition gives.

[fast talon]

so thats where you get fat chocobo mount?

[patent citrus]

yeh, or you can get a slight different variation of it by having 3000 commendations

[magic wren]

Or 2000 commendations, right?

Ah 3000

[warm snow]

I only just got the gold magitek armor from 500 commendations

[magic wren]

Nice!

I have 124 commendations 😑

[fast talon]

That is...a lot

Of commendations

[patent citrus]

run all dr to level your alt per day 😂 should be easy

[fast talon]

If you play Tank or Healer maybe, DPS hardly ever gets recommendations

[magic wren]

I think being healer/tank gets you most of the commendations though.

[fast talon]

Unless you were lucky enough to run with a party of 3 lol

[patent citrus]

yeh, level your tank/healer alt with dr hehe

and dps with msq and blue quests

[manic flare]

i dont understand the second chance mechanic

why would u ever do this

[obsidian patio]

A big tip is to not leave the duty right away to get commendations

[manic flare]

render a complete duty incomplete

[remote lintel]

to farm 1 duty

[faint flare]

It lets you retry a challenge

[manic flare]

@faint flare how does that benefit you

[obsidian patio]

It doesn’t remove the sticker you placed

[faint flare]

So you can be lazy

[fast talon]

Basically just use retry on the top row for easy stickers

[faint flare]

Or if you really dont wanna do the other challenges

[obsidian patio]

So if your book has tasks you can’t do or don’t want to do, you can spend points to do an easier thing

[manic flare]

@obsidian patio u mean this sticker?

[fast talon]

yes

[obsidian patio]

Yes

[fast talon]

so lets say you already did a lvl 50 dungeon and got a sticker for it

[fast talon]

if you use a retry on it, you can do lvl 50 again and get another sticker

[manic flare]

does this mean i can redo a duty 8 times?

[fast talon]

yes

[faint flare]

Yes

[manic flare]

daaaaaamn

[fast talon]

what it does is it takes another duty that you havent completed and makes it "completed"

[faint flare]

Remember to reset it before completion

[manic flare]

@faint flare what do you mean?

[faint flare]

If you complete a duty before yoy reset it in the journal, you won't get credit

[patent citrus]

is it worthed? or should i just stick to 7 and shuffle?

[manic flare]

what do you mean by reset it in the journal

[faint flare]

By using that option

[fast talon]

make sure to use Retry before the duty finishes

[manic flare]

is there a time limit to wondrous tales?

[fast talon]

example: youre done with lvl 50 dungeon. you queue into a lvl 50 dungeon, make sure you use retry on lvl 50 before the dungeon is complete

[patent citrus]

2 weeks

[fast talon]

otherwise you won't get credit

[faint flare]

The book lasts 2 weeks

[manic flare]

is there a specific day it resets?

[faint flare]

Tuesday

At weekly reset

[manic flare]

so tomorrow?

[warm snow]

Ye

[faint flare]

!weekly

[zinc orbit]

Tick, Tock, Kupo!

Time Until Weekly Reset:

0 Days, 8 Hours, 6 Minutes, 51 Seconds

[patent citrus]

when did you get the book?

[faint flare]

Resetd in 8hourd

[manic flare]

yesterday

[fast talon]

Idyllshire

[patent citrus]

then you can keep rolling

[fast talon]

Oh when, misread

[faint flare]

The book tells you in the top right when it expires

[faint flare]

Yes that

[manic flare]

so next tuesdya

[patent citrus]

no hehe

2 weeks after you received the book

[faint flare]

Thats when that book expires

[magic wren]

Best gear is ilv 500?

[faint flare]

For now

[magic wren]

For end game

[faint flare]

Yes

[warm snow]

Except weapon

[faint flare]

It changes in 8 days

[manic flare]

i think i've seen people with 505 ilevel

[warm snow]

Best weapon is 505

[magic wren]

Ah right.

[warm snow]

You haven't

I think ilevel currently caps at 500 cuz the 505 weapon isn't enough to effect the average

[magic wren]

You obtain those through bozja?

[manic flare]

why do people hate on pharos sirius?

[faint flare]

No

[warm snow]

Nope

[faint flare]

Eden savage

[manic flare]

i've never done the dungeon

[warm snow]

Best gear is either savage Eden or augmented crystarium

[manic flare]

but if it's annoying to do, i wont unlock it

[faint flare]

Its a mix

[warm snow]

Both are 500

[patent citrus]

people hate pharos sirius?

[obsidian patio]

Pharos Sirius normal is basically just a very whack dungeon due to not preparing for damage increases over time

[faint flare]

First boss is either a diaster or fine

[manic flare]

people in town are complaining about it

[faint flare]

But otherwise its whatever

[patent citrus]

what the

[warm snow]

Pharos sirius > copper bell mines

[magic wren]

Shoot, okay should I even attempt it with 5.4 coming out?

[manic flare]

@faint flare so it's like great gubal library?

[faint flare]

No

[manic flare]

and world of darkness?

[faint flare]

Gubal is easy

[patent citrus]

whats wrong with gubal and wod??

[manic flare]

so pharos sirius is harder than great gubal?

[jade quartz]

Pharos Sirius was hard when it first released over 6 years ago.

It’s not now.

It’s just another dungeon

[faint flare]

First boss can just explode in your face if people dont deal with adds

[warm snow]

Wod keeps showing up on alliance roulette cuz Crystal Tower is mandatory so people be sick of it

[patent citrus]

i think it's just complainers

you can mute them

[manic flare]

i have other raids unlocked, like void ark

but i never roulette into them

only the crystal tower ones

is void ark part of the roulette?

[patent citrus]

i think crystal towers is the shortest one

so if noone is trying to unlock void ark

the roulette will auto pick crystal tower one

[warm snow]

All alliance raids you've beaten can show up on roulette

Except for the current expansion

So no nier raids on roulette

[patent citrus]

everytime i roll into void ark roulettes, there's always a new person who try to unlock it

[obsidian patio]

Nier can appear in roulette

[manic flare]

what about alexander

[jade quartz]

Crystal tower raids pop most often because they’re mandatory for MSQ progression and because people with lower gear averages can get into it

[obsidian patio]

I’ve gotten copied factory. Not sure about puppets

[jade quartz]

Alexander isn’t an alliance raid

It’s in Duty Roulette: Normal Raids

[warm snow]

Raids and alliances are separate

Also no one runs the arr raids

EVER

[patent citrus]

well it's not included in roulettes...

[manic flare]

wait htere's a spearate roulette for alliance raids and normal raids?

[patent citrus]

yeah..

[obsidian patio]

Yes

[jade quartz]

Yes

[warm snow]

Ye

[manic flare]

how do you unlock the normal raid roulette?

[warm snow]

Normal raid roulette is lv60 req

[patent citrus]

oo just unlock alexander

[jade quartz]

By having normal raids unlocked

[warm snow]

And presumably you need to have unlocked alex

[obsidian patio]

Any two 8-man raids will do

[warm snow]

Bahamut is still technically a normal raid lyon

[astral jewel]

I still haven’t finished arr raids 😢

[manic flare]

i have coils unlocked

[patent citrus]

hmm no it's not 🤔

[obsidian patio]

Binding Coil is tuned for savage difficulty

[manic flare]

that's not enough?

[jade quartz]

Coils don’t count

[warm snow]

Yeah ignore those

[hasty musk]

coils isn't in it

[jade quartz]

It’s a savage

[obsidian patio]

Since it was made before the normal/savage split

[jade quartz]

Just not by name

[warm snow]

If you want to do them, run them unsynced solo

[jade quartz]

But it’s savage-difficulty

And therefore not in roulettes.

[warm snow]

Except for darnus cuz you'll need a hand for that bitch

[brazen nebula]

Where does one go in this server to ask for help😅

[warm snow]

Ask away

[brazen nebula]

I’m on light server and I just need help with hells lid

[warm snow]

Or do you mean you're looking for a group

Ohhh

[brazen nebula]

Seems no ones queuing it at the moment

[obsidian patio]

Isn’t it the middle of the night for EU?

[brazen nebula]

Yep

[warm snow]

Just hit midnight gmt

[obsidian patio]

Yeah you won’t have much luck until the morning

[patent citrus]

try to enable all language

[brazen nebula]

Have just applied that

Hopefully the queue is faster now

[manic flare]

is most of europe one time zone?

[patent citrus]

should be

[manic flare]

isn't it like 10 or 11 in other parts of europe?

[patent citrus]

yeah mostly

but they speak various language, so would expect people running different client language

[hollow wraith]

I was told I shouldn't be using my lb (melee) on a second dungeon boss, only first or last one and I don't really get why?

[warm snow]

Nope, it's past midnight in all of Europe atm

That person is wrong

Cuz your lb gauge resets once you start the final boss

But admittedly caster and ranged lbs can be handier for dealing large damage to fodder quickly in dungeons. Melee lbs are best saved for bosses

[raven sage]

Your lb gauge shouldn't be resetting in dungeons

That's usually for raids

[warm snow]

Iirc it still resets in boss arenas

Or am I misremembering

[raven sage]

Not in any instance I can think of

[latent bloom]

While not necessarily a question, i need an answer

You have been chosen to decide which objective will be my last sticker.

[raven sage]

Aside from I guess meridianum and praetorium if we're counting those

[latent bloom]

Decide my pain

[faint flare]

Pvp

[patent citrus]

oh in this situation, can you retry?

[latent bloom]

Nope

[faint flare]

You can always retry

[patent citrus]

or is it also restricted <8

ah ok

[fast talon]

yeah you can retry

[latent bloom]

I feel retry will curse me

[fast talon]

its the shuffle thing thats restricted

[faint flare]

Reshuffle is limited to 7 and under

[warm snow]

You're right raid only I was wrong

[latent bloom]

Hence the drafting of you guys

[patent citrus]

oh, then just keep retrying until you got the one you want? 😂

[fast talon]

just to clarify you can choose which thing to retry, its not a random thing

[patent citrus]

yeh, so like if he runs the pvp one

and it's the wrong one, can he just retry the pvp?

[fast talon]

no, retry doesnt refund a sticker

[patent citrus]

and choose something else

ohhhhh

[fast talon]

its just so you can get stickers without having to do more annoying challenges

[patent citrus]

i understand retry wrong lol

[warm snow]

Do extreme sephirot

[fast talon]

like if you feel like it, you could get 9 stickers doing lvl 1-49 dungeons by using your retry over and over

[hollow wraith]

So was it bad to lb second boss? It was up for the last one anyway

[warm snow]

It was

[hollow wraith]

Or should I like save for lb2?

[warm snow]

In dungeons save lb for final boss

[faint flare]

No

Not always

[patent citrus]

it's just a dungeon and there's someone complaining 😂

[warm snow]

In raids and msq roulette the lb resets at the start of a boss fight

[faint flare]

If you have a option to build LB2, build lb2

[obsidian patio]

Ehh, LB generally sees more value when used on big trash pulls for dungeons

And some bosses you won’t even see LB2

[faint flare]

In dungeons saving LB for last boss is the worst use

Use it on trash

[warm snow]

I wonder if we'll ever get a BLU lb

[faint flare]

If no ranged, use it early and often

You'll get 2 lbs

[latent bloom]

So PVP is the suggested one

[hollow wraith]

We had only melees though ;p

[patent citrus]

i say get the leviathan one

easiest 😂

[faint flare]

Then as long as you used it on the boss then its fine

[hollow wraith]

Ok thanks

[manic flare]

do i need to beat all of alexander to unlock the 8-man raid roulette?

[patent citrus]

hmm i don't think so

[obsidian patio]

No

[faint flare]

No, just have 2 floors done

[obsidian patio]

You only need 2 level 60/70/80 normal raid floors completed

[manic flare]

by floors

what do you mean

[obsidian patio]

Fights, basically

[manic flare]

duties?

[faint flare]

Fights

[manic flare]

finish 2 duties?

[faint flare]

Each fight in a raid is classed as a floor

[manic flare]

is Gordias considered one floor or 4?

[faint flare]

Thats 4 floors

Each one is a seperate floor

[oblique trellis]

how do the top rewards in WT work? Is there a way to get them every week? This is the 2nd time I've turned it in (of the ones I've done) and they're uncollectable

[faint flare]

Gordias is the Tier

[manic flare]

Alexander is not as hard as coils?

[faint flare]

Normal mode no

[remote lintel]

coils are savage level

normal raids are easy

[faint flare]

Alexander is the first to have the normal/Savage split

Alexander savage is on par with coils

[oblique trellis]

Nevermind.. I'm dumb and can't read

[patent citrus]

yeh, just click on the reward

[manic flare]

by coils being savage, you mean this?

[faint flare]

No

[oblique trellis]

Nah, it's cause I don't have 9 seals

[patent citrus]

nooo, the normal one is

[manic flare]

cuz i haven't done that one

i just did the normal version

that doesn't say savage

[faint flare]

All of coild are equivalent to savage difficulty

As its before the savage/normal spkot

[worthy basin]

coils are in default savage afaik

[obsidian patio]

“Savage” coil are basically super challenge floors

[faint flare]

Second coil savage is just challenge floors

With some cheese fixed

[jade quartz]

Snack seriously

This has been explained pretty thoroughly

[oblique trellis]

Can a 70 solo ARR EX?

[jade quartz]

Normal coils are savage-difficulty.

[patent citrus]

yeh, you can

[jade quartz]

Second Coil savage is just extra

[leaden ginkgo]

what classes/jobs arent available on the free trial?

[faint flare]

Expansion jobs

Other than heavensward

[worthy basin]

dnc gnb rdm sam blu

[obsidian patio]

Samurai/Red Mage/Dancer/Gunbreaker

[faint flare]

Stormblood and Shadowbringers jobs, which are those

Blue is in free trial

[leaden ginkgo]

ahh cool

i wanted to play gnb but thatll have to wait then

what is tank gameplay like

[jade quartz]

Pull a lot of mobs

[faint flare]

Turn stance on > hit shit > use defensive cooldowns

[jade quartz]

Rotate defensive cds

[warm snow]

Spin2win

[jade quartz]

Do dps

[warm snow]

Unless you're drk

Or maybe war, I only just started marauder

[leaden ginkgo]

man im torn between gladiator and lancer

[worthy basin]

do you want to be a tank or dps

[faint flare]

Be both

[warm snow]

Go gladiator

You'll thank me once you've felt dps queuing

[leaden ginkgo]

i dont know the playstyle difference

but playing dps doesnt sound fun

tbh

[warm snow]

Draw aggro so dps aren't being hit

[leaden ginkgo]

id imagine that if im playing dps i have little agency

[warm snow]

And balance using defensive skills to stay alive

Vs. Haha pointy stick go brrrrt

[jade quartz]

Dps have more involved rotations

Push yourself to maximise damage

Hit more buttons

[warm snow]

Tank has more responsibility for success. Tank death usually means a party wipe

[jade quartz]

Ehh

Everyone shares responsibility

[leaden ginkgo]

does it matter which world i pick

on chaos btw

[faint flare]

!faq worldpick

[zinc orbit]

Which world should I pick?

You can play on any world on any datacenter within FFXIV. Aside from the languages spoken, the physical location of the servers, and the status of each world, there are no major differences.

The majority of content is cross-world, with the exception of Free Companies, Linkshells, and restrictions when visiting other worlds.

If you don't mind where you play, choose a world that is Preferred or New for character creation bonuses. Check world status by using !status <world name> or via the Lodestone. For information about the status types, use !faq worldtype.

Notable worlds:

• Balmung & Mateus (Role-playing)
• Tonberry & Kujata (Large amount of Oceanic players)
• Moogle (Large amount of French players)
• Shiva (Large amount of German players)

[jade quartz]

!preferred chaos

[zinc orbit]

Information

List of preferred worlds for Chaos:
Louisoix
Spriggan

[jade quartz]

One of those two

[leaden ginkgo]

okk

thanks

[faint flare]

Tldr: no, pick one of those for bonus xp

[jade quartz]

If you create a character on a preferred world, you’ll get double exp on all jobs under level 70

For your first 90 days of play

[manic flare]

do moogle tribe quests still give scaled experience after level 60?

[jade quartz]

No

Move to Namazu

[warm snow]

Nope

I'm still doing them for completion sake but all my crafters and gatherers are 80...

[manic flare]

how did you level them up without doing moogle quests?

did u have the new adventurer bonus?

[warm snow]

Hard work and determination

[obsidian patio]

Leves are good experience

[warm snow]

Also firmament

[faint flare]

Also ishgard

And leves

[manic flare]

@obsidian patio i go broke doing leves

[jade quartz]

Ishgardian Restoration and/or leves

[warm snow]

I used leves specifically for fisherman

[faint flare]

And grabd company turn ins

[manic flare]

each levequest item costs like 60k on marketboard for me

[warm snow]

And ishgardian restoration for the rest

[obsidian patio]

Make them yourself

[wintry chasm]

That's entirely entirely your own fault

[warm snow]

Yeah

[wintry chasm]

idk why you're buying the leve items

that's pretty dumb

[warm snow]

Buying leve fish is actually pretty cheap

But that's an exception to the rule

[manic flare]

@wintry chasm some u can buy very cheap

like culinarian and alchemy items

u can buy like a level 60 item for a few hundred

[wintry chasm]

Well that's all well and good but why are you then trying to buy the expensive ones?

[jade quartz]

Then pick the cheap ones

[manic flare]

cuz i guess i spoiled myself

[worthy basin]

you could always server hop and try to buy things outside your world

[jade quartz]

There are multiple leves to choose from at each level range

[faint flare]

Buying the cheap stuff over and ocer will add up

In money

[jade quartz]

Find the cheap option

And craft stuff yourself

Use your brain.

[manic flare]

well even buying the crafting mats sometimes cost jsut as much

if not more

[jade quartz]

Then pick a different leve

[manic flare]

cuz people sell in huge quantities

[faint flare]

Gsther yourself

[warm snow]

^^^^

[jade quartz]

World visit other market boards

[faint flare]

Its why people say level gathering alongside

[jade quartz]

Gather

Just

Use your brain

[faint flare]

As always, gil is the lazy man way to do things

[warm snow]

I usually only go market board for monster drop materials

And if you don't know where to get everything use teamcraft

[worthy basin]

mine is when the mats is timed node or legendary node.

can't be bother with that kind of hassle

lol

[warm snow]

Those too

Depending

[jade quartz]

Retainer ventures for monster drops

[warm snow]

I've been WFH so I can just go to node location and wait while I do actual job

[leaden ginkgo]

the free trial

seems really generous

[warm snow]

It is

[leaden ginkgo]

especially for my 1st/2nd mmo

im playing wow along side to see which i prefer

[warm snow]

It's all of ARR and HW

[leaden ginkgo]

is there a level cap?

[warm snow]

60

[leaden ginkgo]

thats a lot

wow

[warm snow]

Base game cap is 50

Each expansion increases cap by 10

[leaden ginkgo]

holy moly

ive got some time to play then

[faint flare]

The trial is basically half the game

[warm snow]

Current cap is 80 if you have all expansions

[fiery zephyr]

Q01: Somebody know if there is a need to weave skills as physical class?

[faint flare]

Yes

[warm snow]

Yes

[faint flare]

Always

Weaving is a FUNDAMENTAL mechanic

[warm snow]

Always weave

[faint flare]

And is extremely core

[warm snow]

Wvr makes the best gear

[faint flare]

Not weaving skills means you're delaying the gcd and doing far less damage

And potentially not using ogcds on cooldown

[fiery zephyr]

Hmm okay...i hoped that it is possible to skip it in FF because of the global cds xD

[faint flare]

Resulting in further damaw loss

!faq weaving

[zinc orbit]

Quick guide to weaving/clipping

Click the image, then 'Open original'

[obsidian patio]

The GCD actually makes it easier to weave

[faint flare]

Every single job weaves

[obsidian patio]

Single weaving is very easy to do

[faint flare]

Its easier to weave on physical jobs cause no cast times

[warm snow]

Exactly

[obsidian patio]

Double weaving can be harder with high ping, though

[patent citrus]

what's having global cd have anything to do with not weaving 😂

isn't weaving is a must because of there's a global cd?

[warm snow]

Of the jobs I've played only blm seems to have trouble weaving

[faint flare]

Basically

Blm has plenty time to weave

[fiery zephyr]

I don't know, this is why I am asking 🤷🏻‍♂️

[warped nest]

Mages cannot weave most spells because the spell cast time is usually the same or longer than global cooldown

[faint flare]

With xenoglossy, quick cast fire/bliz 3s, triple/swift

[fiery zephyr]

Ty all

🤗🤗🤗

[warped nest]

Instant cast spell let them weave

[warm snow]

Laughs in dualcast

[agile night]

is there a way to make market requests? I want 1 materia, and people selling in 30's

[faint flare]

Laughs in all of Summoner instant casts pathetic RDMs

[warped nest]

No, Nomeru

[worthy basin]

nah

[warm snow]

Not really no

[worthy basin]

you can world visit though and check the other worlds for that

[warm snow]

Yeah but summoner gear isn't as nice

[faint flare]

Say that to my Summoner dong and butt wings

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[fast talon]

who needs good looking gear when you can glamour every class to look like a half naked weirdo

[agile night]

how do I change worlds?

[fast talon]

go to a big aether crystal in any of the major cities

[warm snow]

At City aetheryte crystals

[agile night]

oh right I've seen that , okay

[warm snow]

But only cities

[faint flare]

Specifically the original 3 main cities

Not expansion ones

[worthy basin]

you can only world visit with the 3 big cities (ul'dah, limsa and gridania).

[fast talon]

if your main goal is MB stuff I would recommend Limsa

[worthy basin]

^

[fast talon]

since the market board is very close to the aether crystal

[warm snow]

There's also bot commands you can use to check prices

But do that in #kupo-bot-spam

[fast talon]

are those accurate

never seems to be super accurate when I use them

[faint flare]

Not exactly

[worthy basin]

or you can use a 3rd party launcher that is linked with universalis.

I used that a lot

[faint flare]

No bot will be accurate due to how they're updated

The only one that was accurate got banned

[warm snow]

Not surprised

[agile night]

okay perfect. the world hop was a great success. instead of 30 at 700 each, I bought 2 and 400 each. success

[worthy basin]

nothing is exact, but can give you an idea how much that material/gear/glamour actually costs.

[warm snow]

Good for seeing wheres cheapest to stock up on maps

[vestal needle]

is therea shortcut that self targets on your keyboard?

[patent citrus]

yeh

keybind -> tageting

[leaden ginkgo]

how the hell

[warm snow]

On controller down on dpad self targets by default and cycles through your allies

[leaden ginkgo]

do i buy anything off the square enix store

im stuck at review

im going to sandpaper myself

i just wana buy a copy of ff14 again

[native frigate]

happen the same to me,
either reset cache/cookie,
change payment methode
change browser
or personally : go buy it as a guest

you can log in afterward

@leaden ginkgo

[hexed cargo]

What is the best way to level tanks. Spamming Leveling roulettes or spamming the highest level dungeon?

[polar hound]

roulettes are only a one time daily bonus

highest level dungeon, not including level capped ones (50/60/70) are best for tank

[hexed cargo]

Gotcha. Was hoping the Adventurer in need thing would be helpful

[polar hound]

once a day for sure

[little swift]

the bonus doesn't come from the adventurer in need

thats just like a little cherry on top

nothing substantial

[lost grove]

How much gil can be made from msq?

[verbal rune]

A.. lot? Probably 1-2 million at least up to HW

[jade quartz]

Provided you haven’t gone and spent gil on frivolous stuff, you can easily have at least 3–4 million by the time you hit level 80

Just from quest rewards and daily roulettes

[lost grove]

So enough to fund my healer probably . Nah mostly been using dungeon gear rn and tping

[jade quartz]

What do you mean by fund your healer?

Gil’s not really needed for gearing

Unless you wanna buy some crafted gear to skip ahead a little bit in the gear treadmill

But that’s optional

[lost grove]

Ye at 80 I wanna

[strong saddle]

So technically crafting gear is pointless? well at low levels anyway

[fast talon]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but in Garland Tools, is it possible to convert the time here into Server Time?

[jade quartz]

Crafting gear is helpful for alt jobs

[warm snow]

Iirc garland tools is out of date but I usually use teamcraft for tracking this kind of stuff

[jade quartz]

And at endgame it’s helpful for raid progression in the first few weeks of a newly released raid tier

Garland tools is not out of date.

[fast talon]

Oh does Teamcraft have this function too? I've mainly been using GT since it was more intuitive for me

Or rather GT was more compact

[jade quartz]

Yeah I also greatly prefer GT for tracking

But I’m not sure if there’s a server time setting

[warm snow]

I started with teamcraft so that works better for me but it uses timers so it counts down to the next spawn of timed nodes

So it would say dzemael tomatoes spawn in 15 minutes

[fast talon]

Well that's what GT does too, it's the 35m next to the time in the screenshot I posted

35m / 9:57:55 = countdown timer / local time

[warm snow]

Ah I see

[fast talon]

Anyway, I mostly just wanted to see the server time for the spawn so I could just commit it to memory

[jade quartz]

Oh

No it doesn’t work like that

[fast talon]

ah crap ive been using the wrong term, i meant Eorzean Time

[jade quartz]

Node spawns are based on Eorzean Time which is a 70 minute cycle

[fast talon]

Yeah that's what I meant, sorry

[jade quartz]

Oh it’s right there at the bottom

[fast talon]

Oh I'm blind

lol

Thanks

[jade quartz]

Eastern La Noscea @ 1pm

[fast talon]

idk how I never noticed that before, thanks a lot

[jade quartz]

[leaden ginkgo]

@native frigate thanks

[strong saddle]

How is drk knight for a beginner?

[dense barn]

hi guys, my brother has just started playing and im a returning player. Is there a way that i can do the same quests the He is doing without starting a new character?

[strong saddle]

Unsure but some quest scale u downwards. But dont quote me on that

[jade quartz]

It’s fine, though note you cannot start as a dark knight

[foggy flame]

If you change Grand Companies (I am in Maelstrom and wanna change to Adders/Flames) can you still do the daily turn-ins for the new company?

[jade quartz]

!faq tankguide

[zinc orbit]

Tanking for Dummies

Beginner's Tanking Guide
Dungeon Tanking Video Guide
FFXIV Servers and You
Threat Modifiers

[jade quartz]

Recommend looking at the first link there

[worthy basin]

you might want to consider ffxivclock too if timed nodes

[jade quartz]

You’ll have to rank up in your new company to access expert deliveries I believe

[leaden ginkgo]

i have another issue

[fast talon]

Well you can always join him when it comes to Duty Finder stuff (trials, dungeons, etc) but I'm not sure about non-DF quests. I know New Game+ exists but I've never used it so I don't know how it works.

[leaden ginkgo]

can someone help me figure out how to redeem the collectors edition? i bout a key for me and my friends and i cannot figure out how to redeem the codes

[worthy basin]

you can help him inside the dungeons and trials but for job-instanced quests you can't.

[leaden ginkgo]

on mogstation it says code doesnt work when i go to transfer to reg service

please send help

[foggy flame]

But will the deliveries be available after leveling up? Or would I need to wait until the next day?

[jade quartz]

Whoops

[obsidian patio]

@leaden ginkgo are you trying to register a complete collector’s edition or Shadowbringers collectors?

[leaden ginkgo]

can someone please help me im going to cri

[jade quartz]

Available immediately upon rank up

[obsidian patio]

If it’s the latter you still need the base game license

[leaden ginkgo]

i bought the collectors edition

[jade quartz]

Collectors edition of what

[worthy basin]

collectors edition of what exactly

[leaden ginkgo]

ff14

[foggy flame]

sweet thanks. Gonna go to new company and rank up real quick

[worthy basin]

i mean what expansion

[jade quartz]

Please tell us the exact product name

[leaden ginkgo]

Oh wait im fuckin stupid

Nvm

[fallen yarrow]

hi guys, im going to buy ffxiv right now during the sale, but i don't want to use up my game time just yet. how do i ensure i get a registration code instead of an automatic upgrade?

[remote lintel]

dont be on ps4

thats basically it

[worthy basin]

don't buy it straight from psn

[fallen yarrow]

im on pc yeah

[remote lintel]

then youll get a code

[worthy basin]

just don't share that code to anyone

[jade quartz]

You can wait as long as you like to enter the code

[fallen yarrow]

even if i have an account logged in to the square enix store?

[jade quartz]

Yeah

[fallen yarrow]

awesome

thanks a bunch guys

[jade quartz]

SE store account is totally unrelated to actual SE FFXIV account

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[teal dragon]

how do i get more dalamund red dye

[fast talon]

Crafting

[jade quartz]

Buy it

[fast talon]

Unless I'm misremembering which shades of red can be crafted

[obsidian patio]

Dalamud red is one of the crafted ones

[jade quartz]

It will be cheap on the market board

If you’re not on the free trial

[leaden ginkgo]

which ediot on ff14 do i need to buy just to play the game

fffs

the naming on the games is stupid

[obsidian patio]

You need to buy the base game, which is labelled as the starter edition

[jade quartz]

Either:
Starter Edition + Shadowbringers

Or
Complete edition

[worthy basin]

starter ed + Shb if you're buying in steam
CE if in squeenix store

[fast talon]

You might want to clarify what you mean by CE

[jade quartz]

No it’s the same everywhere

[fast talon]

Since there is Complete and Collectors

[leaden ginkgo]

this1?

[remote lintel]

whats your region

[leaden ginkgo]

na

im going to have a stroke

[remote lintel]

https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/564956/final-fantasy-xiv-online-complete-edition-pc-download

[leaden ginkgo]

cuz i just bought 2 shadow bringers dlc

[leaden ginkgo]

collecto

[jade quartz]

That’s not what we said bread

[leaden ginkgo]

for my kid and me

No

i ment awhileago

and you cannot refund it

there foes 68 coins

[jade quartz]

So now you need starter edition

[open coral]

If you have the Shadowbringer expansions, you just need to buy the "Starter Edition"

[fast talon]

Well if you own the collector's then you just need starter

[leaden ginkgo]

i literally do no see the starter edition

anywhere

[fast talon]

I think in the end you just ended up paying an extra 10-20 for cosmetics?

[jade quartz]

Look a little harder.

[leaden ginkgo]

@fast talon i bought it twice for me and my son

[jade quartz]

Final Fantasy XIV Starter Edition

[worthy basin]

https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/444748/final-fantasy-xiv-online-starter-edition-pc-download

[jade quartz]

It will not say Shadowbringers on it

[leaden ginkgo]

im going to tear a hole in my wwall

i cannot refund it

[faint flare]

You just need to buy that

Then you can use it

Shadowbringers itself wont work until you register the starter edition

Once you do, it will work

You cant use DLC for a game you dont own

Its simple logic

[fast talon]

You don't need to refund it don't worry, you just paid a little extra for some cosmetics if I'm understanding what you did

[leaden ginkgo]

they need to properly reword these things

why tf is there 3 collectors editions ?

?????

[open coral]

There aren't?

[remote lintel]

it literally tells you everything in the product description

[worthy basin]

each of the expansion

[jade quartz]

Because each is a different product my dude

[obsidian patio]

Also for platforms and if they’re digital or physical

[warm snow]

I thought there were 4 collectors editions

[fast talon]

Each expansion has its own collector's edition, each being a unique bundle of cosmetics

[warm snow]

Or did they wrap up arr and hw into one

[obsidian patio]

The old collectors are still separate

You buy them individually as license upgrades on the mogstation

[worthy basin]

Also the collector's ed usually goes on sale for like $10 each.

[frozen girder]

Just buy the complete edition that's available rn

30$ < 60$ + 40$

[bright badger]

Does anyone know of a macro that lets me instantly target marked opponents

Specifically for frontlines

[warm snow]

Iirc <f> automatically targets your focus target

[bright badger]

I have to manually focus target though, right?

I want to automatically target someone marked with (1) or something like that

[remote lintel]

you cant

[bright badger]

Darn

[willow breach]

anyone know if the coin from copied factory is once per week?

[raven sage]

No only the puppet's bunker one is

[willow breach]

oh i see. thanks

[fast talon]

Is the Adventure in Need bonus for dailies sufficient enough that I should wait until its asking for the role Im using?

[remote lintel]

no

[twilit karma]

If you're a tank or healer you could get it anyway (rarely will this happen for dps unless it's alliance roulette) because if it changes any time while you're queued to what you've queued as you can also get the bonus

[oblique yew]

what does positionals mean

[twilit karma]

Mean you need to hit the boss from a certain location

[remote lintel]

theyre skills that require you to be in a certain position around the enemy

[oblique yew]

and is there an indicator for where i am supposed to stand?

[twilit karma]

Rear or Flank (sides) for an extra bit of potency or some other bonus

[remote lintel]

!faq targetring

[zinc orbit]

Target Ring

[oblique yew]

the skill info will tell me if it is a positional skill right?

[twilit karma]

So best to park yourself right at the border between the rear (where the ring goes away) and the flank (where it starts again) so you don't have to move much

Yes

[remote lintel]

yes k/da

[oblique yew]

ok. ty

[faint flare]

!action Chaos thrust

[zinc orbit]

**Chaos Thrust** : lvl 50 LNC DRG (2.5 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
140 when executed from a target's rear.
Combo Action: Disembowel
Combo Potency: 290
Rear Combo Potency: 330
Combo Bonus: Damage over time
Potency: 45
Duration: 24s
Combo Bonus: Grants Enhanced Wheeling Thrust if under the effect of

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[faint flare]

Example

"rear combo potency"

[oblique yew]

ahh. nice

[twilit karma]

Just keep in mind that if you're a Samurai, you won't see your positionals listed until 52, not when you first unlock the class

[faint flare]

Positionals will have Flank or rear in them somewhere

All melees have at least 2

[fast talon]

And then there's Monk, with 6 lol

[oblique yew]

long way to go. my game is still downloading

[twilit karma]

Ah well, then no worries, you can't play SAM as your first class anyway

[fast talon]

And just to clarify, it's melee DPS. Tanks don't have positionals.

[remote lintel]

the only melees you can start as are pugilist and lancer

[fast talon]

Lancer doesn't get positionals until way down the line

But Pugilists gets them very early

[twilit karma]

LNC used to get one early on, but they thankfully removed that stupid skill

[oblique yew]

hmmm. i was thinking of going rogue- ninja- samurai- dancer route

[warm snow]

All the starting classes become better jobs at level 30

[twilit karma]

You can do rogue at level 10 if you start in Limsa, or level 15 if you don't

[warm snow]

So you'd have to start rogue there

[remote lintel]

start as arcanist or marauder

to be in limsa

then switch to rogue at lvl 10

[warm snow]

Can you not start as rogue?

[fast talon]

Nope

[remote lintel]

no

[warm snow]

Huh, til

[fast talon]

I think it was added post ARR?

Like in the patches in between ARR and HW iirc

[twilit karma]

Nope, added during a later patch. Also it wouldn't make a ton of sense story-wise

[oblique yew]

is arcanist dps?

[remote lintel]

yes

[fast talon]

Yes

But its magical DPS

[oblique yew]

oohh. explosions? might as well see how it plays

[warm snow]

Arcanist is magical dps but it's unique in that it branches into summoner(magic dps) and scholar(healer)

[remote lintel]

nope

[fast talon]

You could opt to start as something other than Marauder/Arcanist, but you'll be stationed in a different city and thus won't have access to Rogue until lvl 15

[remote lintel]

explosions are black mage

arcanist is the pet class

[oblique yew]

F

[warm snow]

Arcanist gets carbuncles