i'm killing the sprites
#questions-and-help
glacial isle
hardy gull
gl hf
plain python
will MSQ in stormblood enough to level me up without routteltes? I want to use routtles for SAM and RDM to catch up to lv60 first 🤔
glacial isle
at least they're in places i won't immediately die in
remote lintel
@plain python as a lvl 79?
plain python
no, I mean I will run my main through Stormblood MSQ at lv60, but I wil use routtles to level SAM and RDM at the same time from 50-60
remote lintel
oh then yeah
my bf is at the end of stormblood and i dont think hes done a single roulette
plain python
nice :3
hardy gull
Id stick to levelling either sam or rdm with your main , spreading roulette across 3 classes would be spreading it pretty thin but im not your mom, u do u 👌
Spreading them across 2 actually* since u said ur main would level from msq
remote lintel
tank responsibility isnt even that bad
jade quartz
Tanks don't have responsibility
hardy gull
Know ur memeing but actually , do the opposite, dps queues are shit , tank queues however <3
jade quartz
well not measurably more than anyone else
small marsh
Every dungeon is new to me I don’t even know where to walk
jade quartz
They only have the appearance of responsilbility for new players.
hardy gull
Lol when u do savage, youll realise how much responsibility tanks really have
jade quartz
Past early ARR, dungeons are straight lines.
Tanks don't have appreciably more responsibility than anyone else in savage.
hardy gull
For this tier they certainly have more than dps
faint flare
Ah yes, the responsibility of stand herr and spam tomahawk
jade quartz
Shiva Unreal for example is an unusual outlier of a fight where almost all the fight mechanics are just tank positioning
so it's mostly on the tank
but that's unusual
modern fight design has balance of responsibility
Shiva is an old fight scaled up so it has some weirdness
remote lintel
e6s tank responsibility is basically just "swap" and "stand here"
faint flare
Tank mechanics this tier
Run in a circle, use a duty action...spam ranged attack...rotate mobs...immune some lasers
And stun a thing
sacred thicket
what dps job lacks the most regarding aoe's during dungeons? (assuming level 80)
hardy gull
E5S , have to take the ramuh charge and some other shit . E6S , tank swaps gand in add phase tanks gotta not fuck up positioning along with conflag. E7S is ez ig . E8S for tanks is “haha get fucked”
remote lintel
at lvl 80 all dps jobs have pretty much a full aoe rotation
jade quartz
None of those things are significantly more difficult than the requirements of other roles, Rai.
hardy gull
Its not that hard but compared to what dps have to do and occasionally healers , its more
jade quartz
That they're somehow more difficult because a tank is doing them is a fallacy common among inexperienced players.
remote lintel
the conflag thing is e6s is the healers responsibility too
small marsh
All the new dungeons required me to know where to walk and to click on items to do in dungeon quests
That’s hard when you’ve never done them before 😜
plain python
can I do Fox Lady Fate at lv60? 🤔
remote lintel
then get the other players to do it for you
jade quartz
and many more experienced players consider tanking the easiest role at a high level of play
hardy gull
Ehh true but i didnt say it was significantly harder , i said they gave more responsibility at certain times
faint flare
Foxy lady is 70
jade quartz
"responsibility"
hardy gull
take e8s for example
plain python
ah ok
rigid narwhal
you can, just be in a party and hope you're a tank momo. otherwise you won't get full credit
jade quartz
every job in savage has equal responsibility to not wipe the raid and to do good dps.
hardy gull
Turning shiva for biting and driving frost
hardy gull
Handling tank swaps , add phase stuns and stuff aswell
remote lintel
tank swaps arent hard
small marsh
Isn’t the point of this channel to help new players 🤔
faint flare
Tank swaps are generic...add stuns can be covered by melee/ranged
jade quartz
Tanks have to do swaps and time their cooldowns as a matter of course. This extremely small amount of "extra responsibility" is exchanged for an easier dps rotation that the tanks have to do in order to do good dps.
hardy gull
Add phase especially , the tank has a lottt more responsibility there
jade quartz
Yes it is Shin
hasty musk
what, grabbing mobs
jade quartz
this can go to #endgame-lounge
small marsh
So what’s the point in ranting about how easy stuff is for endgame players here
hardy gull
Lol true , all of us got a bit carried away , all good
jade quartz
Suffice to say that you talking up tanking to be somehow harder than it is is not appreciated here as it gives new players the wrong idea.
remote lintel
technically this channel isnt only for new players
jade quartz
Dissuades them from trying something that they are perfectly capable of
remote lintel
then just know it isnt hard
small marsh
On gladiator
jade quartz
That wasn't addressed at you Shin
faint flare
Put stance on > hit mobs > use defensive cooldowns
remote lintel
and turn the boss away from the group
faint flare
You're now better than most tanks
hardy gull
O cmon i was definitely not dissuading anyone , just telling it how it is , if people want to get into savage as tank, granted its not that hard but they do have more responsibility then for eg. dps , they should know what its like
But lets bury the hatchet on that
jade quartz
And as discussed that's simply incorrect and spreading it here is not appreciated.
The end.
small marsh
This community seems not very nice
remote lintel
the community is actually very nice most of the time
jade quartz
This community is a community of various human beings who are varying degrees of nice and not nice.
plain python
if you're decent, it is easier to get along with decent people 🤔
hardy gull
Yep this community is def one of the best communties ive come across , people do get heated sometimes but it happens in every community
zinc orbitBOT
neon swan
I'm looking for some advice because I have tried paladin and dragoon to about 26 and im falling out playing them
I'm looking for a class that's more fluid imo
plain python
you're bored of them?
neon swan
Mhm
plain python
well, try Monk or Ninja.
neon swan
Hows are they
patent citrus
yeah, don't think anything is fluid till lv 70ish :/
slate arrow
MNK is being reworked in 5.4, ninja is basically Naruto: The Job Fantasy
patent citrus
if you want button mashing class, would suggest any class that has a lot of ogcd
so you can just ignore these class/skill animation, gcd and ogcd
plain python
they have atk.speed reduction. Ninja can does some snappy ninjutsu, while Monk just walk back and forth.
leaden ginkgo
if you want button mashing go ninja or machinist
plain python
for tank, I think dark knight is cool? 🤔
plain python
I opt for scholar if you want a less-boring healer 🤔
pseudo elm
If I'm wanting to buy FFXIV do I need to buy the complete edition to get access to everything in the game or can I just buy Shadowbringers and have access to previous content as well?
honest anvil
At level 26, all jobs only have their bare minimum so i’ll stick with your current til 50 at least
hasty musk
@pseudo elm you'll need the complete edition, as that includes the base game + the expansions
pseudo elm
@hasty musk Ty man 
patent citrus
yeah. if you never puchased ffxiv before, definitely complete edition
warped nest
Buying and playing XIV
Free trial: lvl 1-60 contents, social and inventory limitations, no money commitment at all
Starter edition: above, just no limit, need to pay subscription
Shadowbringers: lvl 60-80 contents, need Starter Edition
Complete: starter + Shadowbringers
plain python
complete doesn't have storm blood? 😮
obsidian patio
It does
patent citrus
it has everything hehe
plain python
oh you scare me lol
warped nest
See that I wrote Shadowbringers to include lvl 60-80 contents
I didn't write Stormblood
Because I wrote the list from the buying perspective
Same reason I didn't write Heavensward
hasty musk
base game is ARR + Heavensward, while Shadowbringers includes the current expansion plus all the previous ones, which is just Stormblood in this case
remote lintel
whats the weirdest/most comical boss mechanic in the game
sour ruin
I wish they went all in with it but Kefka attempts to punk people with the false aoe indicators
slate arrow
did you do savage
sour ruin
Not yet
slate arrow
:)
leaden ginkgo
it’s not comical but the math stuff is an interesting one
patent citrus
well you gotta do that sooner or later since it unlocks the ultimate hehe
patent citrus
ooo constructor7? i guess that's comical for some people heh
tacit atlas
Lots of people were making PF's for it when BLU level 70 was announced
Not anymore tho
patent citrus
oo i just unlocked it few days ago. i'm a new player too
tacit atlas
I'm sure that there will be some around the release of 5.4
sour ruin
What do you all think the next unreal will be
faint flare
Titan or leviathan
forest carbon
Is there any way to enter a dungeon without Duty Finder? I.E. when you overlevel something can you get into it solo in any way?
sour ruin
Click the gear in top left of duty finder
faint flare
In duty finder settings
sour ruin
Undersized party
forest carbon
Many thanks
faint flare
The starting lv80 dungeons, eden raids, tomes
heady knot
where are those
fresh lodge
Is there an actual question or...?
obsidian patio
We have absolutely no idea about anything in 6.0
faint flare
No one knows
fresh lodge
How would any of us know that
tacit atlas
Tomestone stuff you can get after finishing 5.0 in Eulmore
obsidian patio
@remote lintel I like Kefka Savage where he sleeps half the party and gives the other half Confusion with damage up, causing them to go to the nearest player and smacking them for like 200k damage
faint flare
casually hits sprint
warped nest
We will know soon enough, while the fanfest are canceled due to covid
A few new events are announced and scheduled for Q1/Q2 2021
Very likely that one of these will be an full reveal of 6.0
patent citrus
so tank - 4, melee dps - 4, magic dps - 4, ranged dps - 3, healer - 3
maybe ranged dps and healer next
to even things out
warped nest
Magic DPS is 3
patent citrus
counting blu hehe
warped nest
One of them doesn't count
jade quartz
Sorry I don't speak limited English
But speculation should go in #general-discussion or elsewhere
not here 
patent citrus
oh true, sorry
sour ruin
we might get another limited class nobody knows
personally I think chemist or beastmaster might be options for more limited classes
obsidian patio
But speculation should go in #general-discussion or elsewhere
fresh lodge
gritty oracle
Anyone know a lot about gardening here?
obsidian patio
I’ve done a decent amount of it, but nothing too min-maxy
gritty oracle
Is this a good plan to make an onion prince seed while also growing glazenut everywhere else on the patch?
Step 1: Plant decoy cloud acorn in NW of the garden patch, plant mimett gourd (I have a seed left over from an alternate cross earlier) in W, replant cloud acorn in NW
Step 2: Plant decoy OWF in NE, plant PP in E proceed as normal with setting up a 4x4 farm
My logic here is that if you plant east to west in both the north and south sides, the seeds that come in contact with my onion prince part will try to cross eastward first, as shown in this diagram, and become glazenut. Is the cross path priorityabusable in this way?https://www.ffxivgardening.com/images/intercross-path-diagram.png
obsidian patio
Not sure. :/
From what I understand through self-experience, the seeds use the plot before them for the crossbreed. So the 4th seed bed used the 3rd one for the crossbreed and so on, with the 1st bed using the 9th for cross breeding.
jade quartz
Nah there is a priority for which patch a seed will crossbreed with if it's planted next to two other preplanted seeds
that's what that diagram is about
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
Man gardening is so big brained
gritty oracle
So will my plan work?
jade quartz
ummm
It seems like you have a better handle on it than me tbh
It looks feasible
but you could try consulting the ffxivgardening discord
gritty oracle
ty!
fast talon
so what happens when a server finishes ishgard restoration? apparently it's done now on Ramuh and I was curious if that actually has any practical changes to the area.
jade quartz
the area changes with every stage of the restoration
little swift
The area changes as each new phase is completed
fast talon
How many phases are there? Last weekend we finished the 14th and I think that's the last one for now?
sullen lark
In dungeons, raids, and trials, does the Status Info (Other) ever come in useful?
little swift
Once the entire patch phase jt completed you can still submit stuff
glossy flare
It's not done done though, there will probably be more stages in future patches
little swift
!restoration ramuh
zinc orbitBOT
fast talon
Okay, so they'll still add stuff down the line. Thanks. I only just unlocked Ish Resto and was only able to participate in this last one.
zinc orbitBOT
glossy flare
What people assume is that at the end it will turn into a new housing area. But there is no confirmation of that (though it seems rather likely)
little swift
It looks like one
glossy flare
Exactly
jade quartz
It's beyond reasonable doubt
fast talon
I just want it to have a market board
But that's cool that we help make a new district
more side quest should be opened
@patent citrus I should get around to doing the sidequest in the firmament, kinda left it off for a while
plain python
does people still do lv60 and lv70 24-man raid?
hasty musk
there are definitely people who still do them just by virtue of there being new people who haven't done them yet
also alliance roulette helps
plain python
I heard naked queueing people will get me into lv50 ones instead
fast talon
my friends and i are going through XIV for the first time and were doing the HW raids and we got a game but it def took a while
hasty musk
that might be the case, but it's not impossible to get other alliance raids in roulette
I tend to get copied factory and dun scaith a lot
lone nacelle
i mean you will see plenty of crystal tower but in my experience i see the other raids decently often
fast talon
i reckon the 50 one turns up a lot just cuz its required now in the story
patent citrus
my yesterday DR was AR: rodorana R: alphascrape 3.0
todays AR: WoD R: alphascape 2.0
yeah the firnament side story is nice hehe
gritty oracle
Oh wow. I remember about a month ago it was literally only crystal tower
patent citrus
well the raids are locked behind blue quest
gritty oracle
Void ark line gives some 10/10 glam tho like the void ark maiming set or the yafaemi coat of healing
tidal yarrow
lucid dreaming deals any damage?
tidal yarrow
that potency:50 confused me
bronze narwhal
is hilbrand questline story worth watching? I kindda need to do it for missile learning
dawn mountain
is there any way to make a hotbar that isnt 12 buttons in total?
zinc orbitBOT
obsidian patio
Enable the option in Hotbar Settings of the Character Configuration to hide empty slots
remote lintel
@bronze narwhal yes
dawn mountain
thanks
winged cobalt
fresh lodge
How exactly are you being hacked?
warped nest
I am fairly sure it is a figure of speech
As in dumbfounded with how to play DRK
(I hope)
winged cobalt
early game just maintain dark arts and use 1-3 combo...
leaden ginkgo
i been hacked
warped nest
Ummm... Call Customer support?
fresh lodge
Then change it
leaden ginkgo
i cant
i am now locked out
and it keeps tell me my sercert question is wrong
and i am perty sure its right
fresh lodge
Maybe your spelling is off
leaden ginkgo
SSSSSSSSS
bronze narwhal
I think its case sensitive, probably
fresh lodge
It is
leaden ginkgo
i know
lone nacelle
it could also just be square's login being shit
just wait a bit and go reset your password
ive also had situations a year or more ago where i had to reset pass again and again because it kept telling me i had the wrong password
when im using a pass manager and literally pasting in the correct password
sullen lark
What's the level cap for Retainers?
hasty musk
whatever your level in that job is
leaden ginkgo
i finely got in
sullen lark
So if I have a retainer with Pugilist, is there any benefit upgrading it to Monk? It says it has to reset progress entirely
bronze narwhal
so you're okay and not hacked?
twilit arch
going from a class to a job doesn't reset the level
sullen lark
twilit arch
only if you go from class to class or from job to job
so if you wanna assign it a job make sure it is a job you intend to level
and play
fresh lodge
Its saying if you change from that job to another, it'll reset
sullen lark
I didn't know it was capped to the level I have it on
I would've never selected these classes 
My retainer is already level 65 now, I don't wanna re-level them all over again
twilit arch
they won't drop in level, they'll be a 65 dark knight (assuming your dark knight is 65)
sullen lark
So changing from Pugilist to Dark Knight won't reset levels?
twilit arch
correct, because you're going from a class to a job
twilit arch
the retainer level system can be a bit weird
cedar compass
how do i assign my desynth skillpoints?
twilit arch
what do you mean assign?
cedar compass
well supposedly you start with some desynth skillpoints
but im at 0 on every crafter
twilit arch
you don't assign skill points, you gain them when you desynth an item
sullen lark
You need to be level 30 to learn how to desynth for that type of gear
cedar compass
so i want to get Mastercraft Demimateria
bronze narwhal
talking about retainers, I actually remember that ive been wanting to ask, is it true that you need at least one retainer on DoL?
sullen lark
you can see your desynth level by hovering over the skill on your Characters page
cedar compass
which comes from the artisan set u can buy with GC seals
should i desynth immediately, or skill it up?
twilit arch
you don't need one of each
cedar compass
talking about retainers, I actually remember that ive been wanting to ask, is it true that you need at least one retainer on DoL?
@bronze narwhal Fisher is useless kinda
twilit arch
but it can make life easier if you have a botanist and miner, since that means you cover both DoLs and can send them out while you're doing other things to gather materials for you
cedar compass
but botanist and miner are good
bronze narwhal
hmmm I see, between those two, which one is kindda better to assign?
or should I reset my DoW retainer
twilit arch
ideally want to be around the artisan's desynth level or higher so you have the best chance of getting the rare drops
it doesn't matter, they're both about equal
and i personally recommend having atleast one combat retainer
twilit arch
especially if you intend to level crafters, since they can gather certain monster drops
namely skins, which are usually pretty tedious to farm yourself
bronze narwhal
I see
cedar compass
any way to level desynth fast? it says optimal skill rating is 70 (im 1 lol)
twilit arch
assuming you're level 80/can craft these items yourself or they're cheap to buy
left cliff
I’m at post heavens ward where can I get a level 60 weapon ?
twilit arch
otherwise, would say farm the highest lvl dungeon you can to desynth everything
idyllshire, from bertana @left cliff
left cliff
I checked but only gear I need to double check
alpine shadow
@left cliff lvl60 weapons from illdyshire
left cliff
Oh ok 👌
bronze narwhal
shire weapon exchange
zinc orbitBOT
fast talon
since someone was talking about retainers earlier, what's the best way to get ventures?
Also saw the whole discussion on classes and jobs and stuff, so if I take my level 40 arcanist and turn them into a summoner, will it match my summoner's current level or is it only when going to an expansion job?
twilit arch
gc seals
giving your retainer a job isn't going to boost them up to your level, they'll still be a lvl 40 smn
its just that when they switch from a class to a job their level doesn't reset
which if you were to switch them from one class to another, or wanted to switch them from one job to another, you would have to reset them back to lvl 1 and relevel them
fast talon
oh okay, i misread some stuff in the conversation, misunderstood something there, thanks
leaden ginkgo
are levemetes unlocked with a battle job only?
queen flame
leaden ginkgo
you can also just buy it with poetics
hidden lotus
So before I go irritating myself, what level must one be to use Master Carpenter IV?
wintry chasm
60
valid flint
question between tsukuyomi and suzaku which is harder?
hidden lotus
Mm, mechanically speaking, probably Suzaku because of the second-phase mechs.
Tsukuyomi stays.. fairly easy as long as you pay attention to your Moonlit/Moonshadowed stacks
glossy flare
Ultimately both are quite managable though
cedar compass
Where is the scrip exchange in mor dhona
glossy flare
Tsukuyomi is a story trial unlocked via msq
cedar compass
cant gind it
analog gate
tsukuyomi is from MSQ, but byakko suzaku seiryu is optional content, so you can do it anytime
glossy flare
While the others are technically optional
The order for the optional ones is Byakko -> Suzaku -> Seiryu though
valid flint
i mean the unlock do i unlock it before i get to tsukuyomi or after her story?
obsidian patio
Before Tsukuyomi
glossy flare
The questline starts before you do Tsukuyomi
cedar compass
can i do level 50+ gatherer leves
with only vendor gear?
the crafted gear is mega expensive
mossy tartan
What do Amber-encased vilekin have to do with farming crystal sand?
glad comet
mossy tartan
I have one amber, but I want to trade it for a crystal sand
mossy tartan
thank you
gleaming sparrow
I'm level 70 Blacksmith now and I have a bunch of yellow crafter scrips that I wanted to spend on gear, however all the scrip exchanges I've gone to only have either level 50 or level 80. Are these the only two options?
twilit arch
rhaglr's reach/kugane is where you can get lvl 70 yellowscrip gear
gleaming sparrow
Thank you, the wiki was listing all scrips exchanges so I went to limsa and idyllshire
twilit arch
though you may need to unlock it first via the quest "Reach Long and Prosper"
plain python
is there a reason why there are two sets of Shire gear at Ilv240 and 270?
twilit arch
i240 is not shire gear
its eikonic, and was introduced before shire and continues to exist for glamour purposes
plain python
ah ok
zinc orbitBOT
gleaming sparrow
@twilit arch So I'm in Rhaglr's reach and the scrip exchange only has level 80 white scrip gear. I'm looking for the "reach long and prosper" quest but according to comments on the wiki it was removed a few months ago hmmm
twilit arch
it was not removed
its not a real "quest", its basically just talk to galinda to unlock
crystal steppe
What's the easiest original primal to solo for Nightmare?
gleaming sparrow
ahh i see, i completed galinda's quest which had a different name and now i can see the level 70 gear 👍 thank you
sullen lark
Level 79, don't wanna do a dungeon, what's my options for XP?
twilit arch
depending on how good your gear is, might need to save burst for the two ads that spawn
but otherwise, nothing really notable for garuda
pixies beast tribe dailies, bozja, fates @sullen lark
plain python
yellow crafter/gather scrip in idyllshire is lv58 max?
twilit arch
you can get 60 gear in idyllshire
but its class specific for the left side so its not really ideal to get
crystal steppe
I just rinsed Ifrit EX so I should be good to grind garuda out
twilit arch
also would recommend buying from the ishgard sundry vendor instead
as its a bit more straight foward
plain python
so it is more ideal to just get lv58 one which is shared between craft/gather classes and move on?
jade quartz
The level 58 gear is not shared between crafter and gatherer classes.
cedar compass
How do I unlock yellow script making?
I did the quest in mor dhinna and foundation
But it says that the house of slepndors doesn't take unsolicited deliveries
plain python
lv55 crafter first?
jade quartz
@plain python yes they are equippable by all classes but they don't have any gatherer stats.
Most crafter and gatherer gear below 60 is like that
Wear those on a gatherer and you might as well be naked.
gusty pasture
is there a macro to auto retry and attempt a levequest for farming amber-cased vilekin for crystal sands?
jade quartz
no.
granite spruce
How does Stunning an Enemy work? As sometimes it does and others it does not. Even on the same boss
wintry chasm
Enemies grow immunity to stunning each time you use it
So the first time you'll stun it for the full value, then less the second time, then it's like 1 second for the third, and then total immunity after
I'm not familiar on how long it takes for the immunity to resets but it does eventually. Also most bosses later on just become immune to stuns
granite spruce
is that per person or per boss?
like a Paladin could stun 3 times then the Warrior could or is it 3 stuns and the boss dont care anymore
analog gate
per enemy
granite spruce
Ok. Thank you very much
lone nacelle
if i cant see these nodes it means i need more perception right
zinc orbitBOT
warped nest
@lone nacelle was it 4am/pm in game?
lone nacelle
yes
warped nest
Have you acquired the folklore?
twilit arch
you have unlocked the folklore book?
warped nest
Well... Since you can't see the node
warped nest
Eulmore
lone nacelle
i cleared out everything in the yellow scrips
warped nest
Check your gathering log
jade quartz
Splendours Vendor
warped nest
If you have the book, then these legendary items will be on the log
jade quartz
requires exchanging a number of folklore tokens which are bought with yellow scrips
talk to the splendors vendor.
lone nacelle
got it
ill check it later, queue popped
on a similar note
how am i supposed to gather white scrips
its really difficult to even get 470 collectability
and i always fail most of hte time
jade quartz
Better gear
warped nest
Ummmm....
jade quartz
That's ten levels out of date, no wonder
jade quartz
Swallowskin is the super cheap base level 80 gear (i430)
lone nacelle
i would assume i broke event
but right now im just tryna level everyting to 80 asap
warped nest
Ideally, you use DoH to make DoH/L gears
jade quartz
are you not level 80 yet?
jade quartz
Best gear currently is Aesthete
jade quartz
yeahh
warped nest
Then if you want to save time, but not Gil, spend Gil to buy some doh gear, then use DoH to make the rest of your doh/l
warped nest
If you want to spend time and save Gil, use DoH to make some starter lvl 80 doh/DoL gear
Then work your way up
Imo, it is worth investing the time in Aesthete because they are the final gear you will get for doh/l in Shadowbringers
jade quartz
and will last you to 90 next expansion when melded
warped nest
Yup
zealous flower
kind of off topic but i hope they stop the expansion after the next at lv99 just for tradition
after that all bets are off
jade bear
How do I find what my username is? I forgot it and don't know how to find it out
honest anvil
Log in to mog station?
but then my username and char name are the same so maybe ignore what i said; sorry
jade bear
Yeah, the id
It really shouldnt take ten minutes to figure out how to find it
plain python
how to copy the client from a drive to another one? I cannot install FF14 directly on my SSD due to being an antique with small capacity (but still enough to put a complete client in) and need to do the copying and make het launcher realize the client, but I forgot the step to make
leaden ginkgo
Can someone explain PoTD/HoH leveling for DPS to me?
I get how to do the deep dungeons, but 1-60 is PoTD right? And 60+ = HoH?
Or something like that
plain python
you first climb to F50 in PoTD, then you spam 51-60
leaden ginkgo
1-60 : PotD, 60-70 : HoH, 71+ : Bozja
My PLD is level 44, so I'd do PoTD, but which floors? Just 1-60 & repeat until I hit the level requirement for HoH? I'm a bit confused
Not PLD, sorry
obsidian gulch
should you get any gear before doing dancer
or just jump to dancer and get gear thru quests
twilit arch
yeah, generally you will just run those floor, reset and repeat until you're the appropriate level to move on
leaden ginkgo
Ahh okay, ty
twilit arch
for 60-61/70-71 humps its usually recommend to do your daily roulettes for those
just to make it easier/quicker to get over
leaden ginkgo
as PLD you can spam your highest lvl dungeon, it will be much faster
plain python
squadron is faster for 1-50, I believe 🤔
leaden ginkgo
Yeah, I said PLD by mistake @leaden ginkgo
Ik tanks/healers should do dungeons instead
Ok ok mb then
twilit arch
squadrons are good yeah , and a nice change of pace from potd
but you need to have htem raised to make use of them for dungeons
plain python
well, you need to do 5 squadron dungeons to rank up in GC anyway. Take advantage on that and build a small team of capable 😛
the perk of being a DPSer is that you can just afk after send your squad into the fray 😄
zinc orbitBOT
plain python
when I can start moogle quests? I done everything on Churning Mist including all side quests 🤔
muted tapir
there’s a quest chain u gotta do to unlock moogle quests!! I just did it yesterday so still got the page up lol
plain python
hm ok
muted tapir
yep!! it’s weird that it’s not a blue marker quest chain🤔
U might be missing the bit that starts in foundation if u did everything in churning mists
plain python
can BLU do tribe quests?
lament elk
how often does the queue for the castrum dngn open in bozja?
gleaming mist
around 1 hour after the instance opens, and then around an hour after it's cleared each time
lament elk
thx
tidal yarrow
you can use "visor" emote on some glasses?
open rivet
is there anything beyond Lv. 20-ish courier?
I've done the quest w/ the 2 new couriers and got the hat.
agile laurel
@tidal yarrow and helmets yes
twilit arch
that's the last one @open rivet
tidal yarrow
so if it doesn't work on my glasses i guess it does only for some?
median locust
I know the endless summer glasses work with it, but those are the only glasses that do it off the top of my head
but yeah if visor does nothing, then that's normal
amber ingot
Deep dungeons should be done on either 1-man or 4-man ? And 4-man is easier than a 1-man? Do 1-man runs scale? Can it be done by 2 or 3-man groups?
median locust
4-man is the default and they're designed for 4-man
1-man is much harder and doesn't scale down, but there's achievements for doing it solo all the way
you can do it 2-3 man too, but again, doesn't scale down
amber ingot
oh alright so the more ppl the better for it
median locust
Pretty much
violet grove
Anyone know what could be happening? I just bought the game, I choose a data centre, it goes to connect and then it just stuck trying to connect on a black screen with a loading icon in the corner.
median locust
If you're solo and die without the resurrection pomander, it's over. But in a party, you can use the Cairn of Return or whatever it's called to res all party members, even if you don't have a res
sadly don't know, never heard of that issue
amber ingot
Anyone know what could be happening? I just bought the game, I choose a data centre, it goes to connect and then it just stuck trying to connect on a black screen with a loading icon in the corner.
@violet grove where did u bought it ? steam ? official site?
shrewd mirage
is there any good way to get gear for alts while leveling?
violet grove
Bought it from Square, already had the game on the PS4, so maybe that's the reason it's not working, who knows.
Kinda annoying that I wasted my money on something that doesn't work, ah well.
median locust
You can spend Poetics to buy level 50/60/70 gear which lasts you at least 5 levels
amber ingot
Bought it from Square, already had the game on the PS4, so maybe that's the reason it's not working, who knows.
@violet grove try restarting ur pc , if that doesnt work , try switch Data Center , like go to Light , and then back to log in screen , switch to Chaos and try log in
'
Bought it from Square, already had the game on the PS4, so maybe that's the reason it's not working, who knows.
@violet grove u applied it on the same account?
median locust
Other than that, dungeon gear should be enough, crafted gear is also a thing. How much gear matters also depends on level
amber ingot
Yeah, same account.
@violet grove try restarting ur pc , something must be off , it doenst sound normal tbh
median locust
Kinda sounds like corrupted game files to me if a restart doesn't fix it
open rivet
shouldn't the launcher catch those tho?
median locust
Or try running the game in DX9 mode instead of DX11 (if that's still a thing, I forget if they removed it)
open rivet
still a thing
open ember
Who's having an issue with loading up the game? I'm seeing 3 convos at once
median locust
Nah, they don't check every game file everytime you boot up the game
violet grove
Ughh, really don't want to try reinstalling for it to just not work again.
median locust
Had it happen to me before where I couldn't login at all on a character cause something in the area I was in got corrupted
every other character worked fine
violet grove
I can't even get to the character screen.
median locust
So I'm thinking maybe a file from the data center screen got corrupted
just a guess though
open ember
Have you checked your internet or use a VPN maybe
violet grove
Everything else is fine.
open ember
And you're on ps4 or pc?
open ember
Did you buy a PC license as well as a PS4 license?
median locust
If that was the issue, the launcher would've stopped them
if they're ingame, it's not a license issue
violet grove
Yeah, got both.
median locust
sounds more like a technical issue
open ember
If its stuck at the loading screen then probably a PC isssue
violet grove
I mean, it's not even stuck, it's all moving and it closes it fine. Just tries to connect forever.
kind eagle
For e8s LR i go 3? As a d2
median locust
can you screenshot where it's stuck? it might give us some more info
Not familiar with JP strats sadly Yuki, but in NA, DPS usually go 3 and 4 where the markers are:
1 2
3 4
It's not always the same DPS that get chains, and you don't always get the same orb so calling positions for LR is kinda hard
median locust
Might be that people go to 4 if you're already sitting on 3
kind eagle
hard to adjust if its this messy
2 melee dps
Get tether
So he d1 went to 4
I d2 went to 3
And they take so long to go back the spot
So i cant see is it hourglas or sqaure
median locust
Yeah I guess it's just an issue with people being slow then
@violet grove Have you tried switching to the DX9 client in the launcher?
violet grove
DX9 doesn't launch the game.
median locust
does it give an error?
fresh lodge
Have you tried updating your graphics drivers?
kind eagle
@median locust
And 3 dont have to adjust anything right
Only sqaure 1,4 hourglass 2,4?
zinc orbitBOT
median locust
Other way around, to make bowtie, hourglass switches 1 and 4, square switches 1 and 3
if it's 2 and 4 in JP then do that (for square)
kind eagle
Kujata is half jp
So i think getting the outside ball is much easier
Just wait for the cone
Then run top right
tidal yarrow
it also depends cause in many parties on pf 3 and 4 markers are inverted lol
kind eagle
So i shld ask first?
kind eagle
Most jp is ayatori
timber condor
is there a weapon for gunbreaker that looks like squall's lionheart from ff8?
fresh lodge
Yeah, its from the collector's edition
timber condor
😮 are there pics of it
timber condor
ah dang that wouldve been cool
timber condor
wow that is super pretty
median locust
It's the current last stage for their level 80 relic weapon
also looks pretty nice without the glow
timber condor
oo hell yea, i have the pld one maybe ill snag that for gnb once i lvl it to 80
you right even the base model is super aesthetic
woven bay
When I use desynthesize skill I get menu that has items from example Armoury Chest Main Hand. This list also contains equipped items and I dont want to desynthesize these. Is there a way (from item card) to see is item equipped or not?
leaden ginkgo
Does this piece of gear give the XP boost in PoTD/HoH?
Or do XP related gear effects not work in deep dungeons?
open ember
I don't believe it works in deep dungeons
I'd need someone to double check me tho
@woven bay should have a small paper icon on the item
leaden ginkgo
What about FC buffs? @twilit arch
twilit arch
as i said, only armoury and road to 70
woven bay
@open ember in the inventory where there are item icons there is this paper mark but in the desynthesis menu where there is just a list, I dont see it
twilit arch
no, that's the aetheryte earring
they just have it glamoured to the emperor's new earring
sand grove
You don't. It was a pre-order bonus
sand grove
I think there's an earring from the bozja thing that gives a boost but idk the details
median locust
You have to identify 1000 Forgotten Fragments then you get a 10% exp boost earring up to level 80
from the achievement
fresh lodge
It has an equip level of 71 iirc
verbal rune
Out of curiosity
verbal rune
Good classes for lvl 60 cap?
fresh lodge
BLM
sand grove
Right click the clock i think
fresh lodge
Click the time to swap between the 3 different times
ET is in game time
Server time is just GMT
cedar compass
fresh lodge
Local Time is your system clock
fresh lodge
ET
sand grove
Eorzea
cedar compass
yikes
median locust
yeah the game won't make you get up at 4am to get a certain mat lol
cedar compass
the spoiled thing is dumb in general imo
anyways
do i NEED to earn scrips to gear up my gatherers?
sand grove
Isn't it like an hour or so irl to equal 24hrs in et?
cedar compass
im leveling them
fresh lodge
Yes
cedar compass
or can i do ishgardian restoration
fresh lodge
Or shell out a whole lot of gil
cedar compass
and get gear from there?
sand grove
Which scrips are you going for?
forest laurel
restoration has no gear
fresh lodge
You can't get gear from Ishgard
cedar compass
thanks
is there a way to see which collectibles can i give in
without going to mor dhonna
forest laurel
it's gone tho iirc
sand grove
Doing the weekly special deliveries is decent for scrips if you've gotten to that point and pretty easy to complete
forest laurel
fresh lodge
Blurgh
forest laurel
it used to be a thing before crafted collectables were changed
sand grove
Oh custom deliveries not special. Mb
twilit arch
house of splendors isnt on the timers menu any more because its a static list
zinc orbitBOT
dawn mountain
I just got the atma stage weapon, can I somehow get the zenith version back?
cedar compass
median locust
Need to finish the relic all the way to Zeta, then an NPC at Hyrstmill will sell you replica versions of the previous steps
median locust
As long as you have the Zeta in your inventory
cedar compass
im in the time
dawn mountain
oof
median locust
Are you on Botanist with the buff to see unspoiled nodes?
won't see it if not
Truth of Forests is its name
cedar compass
i tought between 2am and 2pm
median locust
Nope
cedar compass
so its only exactly at 2pm
kind eagle
I start this game around the same time as my friend
median locust
Heavensward and later nodes are up at exactly 2am/2pm for around 2 hours ET
median locust
I forget how long for ARR nodes
kind eagle
is it cause i completed all msq and she hasnt?
cedar compass
its gonna take forever to get scrips
median locust
You need to finish Stormblood and have 168h of game time to lose the sprout
twilit arch
sprout is removed when you have 168hrs played and have completed the main scenario quest "A Requiem for Heroes"
median locust
can also do /nastatus off if you don't want it
fresh lodge
You should keep it on
open ember
Unless you're on an alt
Don't take sprout off
People will seriously get the impression you've done shit before and you know what you're doing at low level content
cedar compass
verbal rune
I don't even know how tank works
open rivet
People will seriously get the impression you've done shit before and you know what you're doing at low level content
never expect anything from anyone you don't know
glossy flare
I don't even know how tank works
@verbal rune turn tank stance on, proceed to smack stuff
open ember
I mean yeah but its worse if you take your sprout off
glossy flare
I'm not kidding, that is like 80% if what tanking is
verbal rune
Oh, then I'm doing it right
Sometime I throw a random aoe eclipse to get enemy attention too
glossy flare
you should only use aoe skills against 2+ targets as a tank
their aoe combos outdamage the single target ones at 2+ mobs
verbal rune
Ah, I see
raven sage
@cedar compass I don't know why it says that but her prices are the same as everywhere else
open rivet
is gamer escape pulling from files or user-updated? if it's the latter, you know the root of this corruption
raven sage
Possibly. I always double check with the lodestone for vendors and that's definitely not the first instance I've seen of it being different
fresh lodge
Its a wiki, so its user updated
cedar compass
is farming cedar log the fastest way to get scrip at low lvl?
since its not time gated
twilit arch
not really, assuming you can hit all of the 50-60 collectables
tidal yarrow
there is one shirt i can't recall the name. it's on default black with some red highlights. it's pretty popular as glam, around 90k on mb, id say similar to an indigo short but it has only the top buttons fastened so belly button is out
can't go more accurate than that lol. anyone remembers the name?
plain python
is the weekly clan hunt soloable?
cedar compass
I can hit them but they're time gated
oak ice
The B ranks are soloable, yes
twilit arch
yeah there's enough timed nodes
that you can do a decent rotation
that it makes up for the fact they're timed, cedar logs give a very low amount of scrips
cedar compass
But they only give like 2x the amount of scrip
median locust
@tidal yarrow Sounds like Fireglass Leather Vest
twilit arch
if you can do all of the 50-60 collectables
you will get more scrips from a full rotation of those
than you would getting cedar logs
the fact that the unspoiled nodes are time gated is basically irrelevant because they're done in a way that you are able to go from node to node (assuming you have the gp/cordials) with little to no break between them
twilit arch
cedar log you're still going to be waiting a bit, even if you're not hoping from node to node because you're gated by gp regardless
tidal yarrow
what's the bot command to show a piece of gear?
if there's any. i think kupo bot has it
glossy flare
should be !item <name of the piece>
woven bay
I cannot desyntesise other types of items than I am able to craft. If I want to, do I need to level those Jobs up to a certain point or do I only need to unlock that job?
tidal yarrow
arigatooo
twilit arch
i assume they mean to show the gear itself
not the stats
which would be !iglam <item name>
glossy flare
oh right
chilly birch
When player become toxic
How do you deal with it?
fresh lodge
By ignoring it
foggy surge
which side comes first in first phase of e7s?
verbal rune
Blacklist it
foggy surge
the portal one
faint flare
Whichever portal was hit first
It was the exact same as normal mode
Just that there's 3 charges and each charge enters a new portal
The base concept and principles are the same
foggy surge
will it come from behind and right side?
bc there are both colors on both side same line
faint flare
Yes
People prefer going to one of the corners to only worry about the sifr charges
So you only need to move forward and back
And just completely disregard the centre unless you're a baller
zinc orbitBOT
median locust
Center is easy cause it's always the same squares that are safe, you just move diagonally instead of forward and back
Then all you gotta do is look at colors like you always do and you're good
fresh lodge
!faq mounts
zinc orbitBOT
leaden ginkgo
Ah nice thx
fresh lodge
Do you really have 15 plats?
fresh lodge
Lol, good job
leaden ginkgo
Thx
tiny spoke
Hello. Can i get someone to help me with the blue mage spell "Missile" ?. Im on free trial so i cant use PF :c. Please and thank you.
foggy surge
how can i save waymarks on macro?
gritty oracle
@tiny spoke #recruitment-aether
quick wave
There's a user in the server trying to scam people by claiming they accidentally reported their Steam accounts.
trail mulch
how come i cant consume the swirling abyss in the drk quest using souleater
twilit arch
post that in #discord-feedback please @quick wave
trail mulch
i cant even target it, it just gives me this text
glossy flare
You can click on it if you can get that text
So... you can target it
just left click -> souleater
(If you are on console I have no idea how targetting works)
glossy flare
Again, how did you get that text?
trail mulch
rightclick
glossy flare
Then left click
trail mulch
OH leftclick worked
glossy flare
<.<
trail mulch
thanks
woven bay
I cannot desyntesise other types of items than I am able to craft. If I want to, do I need to level those Jobs up to a certain point or do I only need to unlock that job?
oak ice
Get the crafter to 30 and you can desynth stuff in its category
woven bay
@oak ice OK. Thank you so much!
verbal rune
Out of Curiosity, was the level cap always 80, or was it raised from 60 to 70 and now to 80?
verbal rune
Ah, I see
elder sinew
Geezus, legacy movement is so much better. Why did they even change it
Maybe better on PC
tidal yarrow
do you get anything if you get every job at 80
open coral
There are titles for getting all classes of a single type (caster, physical, crafter, gatherer) to max level.
I don't recall if there's also an achievement tied to getting everything to max.
raven sage
There's an achievement and it gives you an Amaro mount
elder sinew
Legacy lets you shoot stuff while running away/kiting
The default one makes you have to face enemy to cast
zinc orbitBOT
open ember
Amaro is
All BATTLE jobs to 80
Not including BLU
Crafters and gatherers have thier own achievement
manic flare
Will the level cap be 90 soon?
small marsh
Eventually
open ember
Next year probably
manic flare
Has anything been announced?
open ember
No
small marsh
Not officially
manic flare
I keep hearing people talk about a new expac soon
small marsh
The major expansions have basically been once every 2 years
open ember
We ain't even officially done with Shadowbringers as an expac yet
manic flare
Just rumors?
twilit arch
we're getting a stream in feb
small marsh
Base game was 2014
3 major expansions in that time
Sometime in 2021 is likely just based on when the others released
manic flare
Right now copied factory and puppet bunker is just once a week?
open ember
Not copied
You can play bunker as many times as you want but you can only roll on gear once a week
manic flare
Is the type 2b crate in puppet bunker?
open ember
No
twilit arch
that's in copied
open ember
Only Copied
manic flare
Oh what do people grind for in puppet?
open ember
Gear
twilit arch
i490 gear
manic flare
Will it eventually become unrestricted?
tidal yarrow
Amaro is
is it warrior of darkness pet?
manic flare
Ok. I'm still in stormblood... Plan is to play the game slowly until they make puppet unrestricted
open ember
Amaro is this @tidal yarrow
tidal yarrow
yeah thanks!
small marsh
It’s a little ugly
tidal yarrow
indeed
verbal rune
Quick question
open ember
Shhh its cute
small marsh
manic flare
Where can I get the mount that is car and turns into a jet?
verbal rune
Which healer is the easiest to learn and use on controller?
tidal yarrow
it was a event mount
open ember
The ff15 car???
manic flare
It's a black car
tidal yarrow
easiest healer probably whm
crimson wind
Which healer is the easiest to learn and use on controller?
@verbal rune all of them
open ember
Ff15 old event
twilit arch
white mage is pretty straight forward
open ember
Hasn't returned yet
tidal yarrow
just glare
twilit arch
and has the least buttons i believe
tidal yarrow
:p
small marsh
Skill bloat is real in this game
manic flare
How hard is astrologian compared to white mage?
tidal yarrow
you can't get that mount anymore it was an event that dropped it
small marsh
Double the uptime of skills. Cut the number of skills in half
open ember
Kael is correct. It has the least amount of buttons
small marsh
Pog
open ember
AST has the most buttons
small marsh
Like does a tank really need 5 or 6 defensive cooldowns
open ember
And it is a busier healer
small marsh
Why not just make them better and make it 2-3
crimson wind
Like does a tank really need 5 or 6 defensive cooldowns
@small marsh yes
twilit arch
not really the place to complain about skill bloat tbh
eager widget
White Mage’s only difficulty is getting to where you need to be while keeping your GCD rolling
since so much of it is a castbar
other than that it’s the easiest healer
twilit arch
personally, i dont find AST to be that much harder than white mage. there's just a bit more to pay attention to with the cards
manic flare
i keep wanting to play astrologian, but every late ARR dungeon i've rolled in that had an AST was a terrible experience (ie aurum vale, stone vigil, aery) and the AST got yelled at a ton
so it makes me hesistant to play the class
open ember
Comes with practice
small marsh
Give it a try
manic flare
@open ember so not as noob friendly as WHM?
small marsh
Maybe you’ll get yelled at a lot but maybe you won’t
open ember
WHM is beginner friendly
AST is.... Eh not as much
But I also personally started healing as an AST bur I learned quickly
manic flare
@open ember what was your main?
open ember
AST
manic flare
as i recall AST wasn't one of the ARR classes?
gusty furnace
Is there a chance to increase HQ skins/Hides from mobdrops other than sacrificing your firstborn to RNGsus?
open ember
no
verbal rune
Also I need macros for healer AoE on controller?
small marsh
It’s heavensward
tidal yarrow
to be honest, no job is hard in this game. id say play whatever you like and get better at it
open ember
Its a HW class