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rapid hollow
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Because it’s always the audio processing stuff and the microphone itself

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They’re always different

sly elk
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hmmm

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maybe it's because I was watching youtube videos, but when I was shopping for a mic there wasn't really a huge variation

rapid hollow
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If there wasn’t people wouldn’t buy a yeti over a snowball

sly elk
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there are some mics though

rapid hollow
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Or that quadcast over a bm800 USB

sly elk
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that seem to make people's voices sound deeper

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-has to look up what a bm800 usb even is-

rapid hollow
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Lowest denominator for a dedicated microphone

sly elk
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oh, like how the yeti and quadcast have a mic array where you can switch between sensors?

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while the bm800 and snowball are just a single thing?

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actually not sure if the snowball is a single element or not

rapid hollow
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It’s like comparing very similarly priced headphones or IEM’s

sly elk
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tbh for a long time, when people were like "I should get a better mic!" they'd just hop over to best buy and buy a blue yeti lol

rapid hollow
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They’ll always have accentuations one the deep or high end

sly elk
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like going back 10 years

deep yarrow
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so there isn't a good usb microphone?

rapid hollow
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And it always depends on how your voice sounds in it

rapid hollow
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Just that there’s no difference between them is not true

sly elk
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yea this isn't reddit lol

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i over-exaggerated by a lot but what I meant was "most usb mics are probably fine"

rapid hollow
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Anything blue or AT is good

sly elk
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but it does really depend on what you want

deep yarrow
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maybe i'm just modifying my sound with applications all wrong

rapid hollow
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For a usb plug and play mic

sly elk
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if you have a big deep voice and want people to ASMR your voice

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and you care a lot about how it sounds

deep yarrow
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nah i just want to be clear and coherent cx

sly elk
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like you want your listener to don some $300 sennheisers and be like

deep yarrow
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so i can talk to folks while streaming

sly elk
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wow I can hear the saliva in this dude's mouth

rapid hollow
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If you want anything a blue snowball is very clear and has somewhat a neutral response on its range

deep yarrow
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is it usb?

rapid hollow
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Yes

sly elk
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but if you just wanna sound better than a $40 gaming headset mic

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or worse, a laptop/webcam mic

rapid hollow
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But it’s pretty flat

sly elk
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almost anything will sound better?

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maybe i've gotten a bit cynical about this but the vast majority of people I voice chat with use their laptop mic X_X

deep yarrow
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hmmm

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my desk is pretty smol

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i wonder if i can fit in

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because my desk is lower than me i feel like with that kind of microphone i have to put it in front and hunch down

sly elk
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perhaps you should consider a lapel mic?

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like the kind that clips onto your shirt?

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I mean you can also use a microphone arm

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if you have the room for it

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those are the preferred way to have a mic, not sitting on your desk

rapid hollow
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The one that comes by default is good enough for a budget start

sly elk
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if you're using a condenser (I think the yeti does by default, and the snowball is only condenser, yea?) then it'll pick up your voice without much discrimination, you don't have to have the mic in your face

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the downside to that, is if someone else is near you talking, well that will probably be picked up too 😄

strong ember
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For some reason when I launch borderless mode game goes to 1600x1000 despite my native resolution being 1920x1080, any idea why and how to fix it?
@ me when answering please!

sly elk
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dare I say it

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I know a person or two who sound great over their laptop mic

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but there are certain people I've been tempted to buy a mic out of my own $$ because I'm sick of hearing them through their laptop/headphones

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my boss sits next to a very loud coworker so I always overhear him in every voice call

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I've been tempted to get my boss a dynamic mic which might help ahhaha

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and bully the company into buying some omnidirectional condensers for the conference rooms

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cuz what they do right now is use a conference phone to call into the meeting

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one of these damn things

potent arrow
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No

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I hate thise

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Fuck those

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I spend too much of my day trying to get DHCP to play with those

deep sapphire
still cypress
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Geez

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Just switched to PC gaming on Siege 3.0.. PC fan is so loud compared to XSX

boreal surge
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You could also bully your company into getting meeting cubicles

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*single person meeting cubicles

zealous wolf
still cypress
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Don't know how you PC gamers do it. Fan on XSX is inaudible

zealous wolf
hard drift
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Also wearing headphones helps to minimize the little noise that is there

zealous wolf
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esp noise cancelling ones too...

sly elk
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I don't like them either

still cypress
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It's not horrible, but I can hear it. XSX has spoiled me

hard drift
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Lol how close are you to the X?

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The X makes some decent noise

still cypress
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Series X?

hard drift
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Yeah

still cypress
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I sleep like 3 feet from mine. I left it on the entire night and didn't hear a sound

hard drift
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still cypress
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Maybe you got a bad one

hard drift
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How far are you from the pc?

still cypress
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Like 5 feet

hard drift
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Nah I notice noise easily

still cypress
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My XSX literally doesn't make a sound except for start up

hard drift
modest moss
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I mean you've gone from a console to a high end gaming pc

hard drift
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Not to mention the X has one fan vs your pc

still cypress
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True

modest moss
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CPU Cooler:

120mm AIO Cooler
Fans:

3x 120mm RGB LED Fans, 1x Rear Fan

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plus the cooling on the GPU

hard drift
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Yeah that’ll do it lol

sly elk
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are you using a DIY or a prebuilt?

still cypress
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Prebuilt

hard drift
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Also depending on the case, if it’s open it’s louder

still cypress
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Yup that's mine, the one Shue linked

paper tusk
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that case looks awful for intake air

modest moss
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it's that, or a variant of that

sly elk
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which processor and gpu?

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sorry for asking so much but

hard drift
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No front intake 😭

sly elk
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aren't the 3 fans installed on the front?

still cypress
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Yea

sly elk
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it'll just be sucking in the air from the sides

still cypress
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It's 3080 gpu

sly elk
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also looks like there's vents on top

zealous wolf
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tbh, i would prob take everything out of that case and throw it into 1 with airflow on the front...

paper tusk
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^

still cypress
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Ryzen 7

sly elk
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oh I'm dumb and I'd do the opposite

zealous wolf
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and this is coming from me who owns a front intake based case...

sly elk
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i'd put the 3 fans on top if there were room

zealous wolf
hard drift
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Does the front panel come off?

zealous wolf
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mine..?

hard drift
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No, theirs

still cypress
hard drift
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Rip

zealous wolf
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oof...

sly elk
modest moss
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I'd just accept there's going to be a little noise and have fun gaming on the pc and turn it off when you sleep because it's using excessive electricity

sly elk
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it can do 3x120mm on top and there's open mesh there

zealous wolf
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also that PSU is looking a little sussy to me...

paper tusk
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I have a "silent" case (just sound deadning material on non window side) and I'm temped to take a multitool to the front ventlation to get idle temp down (52c gpu watching twitch, 63c in xiv)

sly elk
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like if there were enough room

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i'd replace the 120mm with a 360mm and just exhaust there and not bother with intake at all. but... again, I'm dumb 😄

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oh wait

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what's this?

hard drift
sly elk
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that's interesting

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it looks like that space on the right side panel is meant for radiators

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-shrug-

paper tusk
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or an alternate intake (2 fan. exhaust on top)

sly elk
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all this said

paper tusk
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no clue I dont have experience with in/out on right side of case

sly elk
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you can probably alleviate the noise issues in your computer if it bothers you, definitely without changing the case

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but I agree that you probably shouldn't worry about it unless it really bothers you

still cypress
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It's not horrible, I just had the expectations that it would be as quiet as the XsX

sly elk
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chasing quietness is like when audiophiles chase sound quality

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oh lol

hard drift
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Lmao nah, it’s more powerful than your X

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By a decent margin

sly elk
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MS has a team of engineers and they designed the hardware from top to bottom

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they chose the processor, gpu, fans, power control, fan control, and had thermal engineers involved with designing the case

hard drift
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Not to mention there’s more power to cool in your pc than the X

sly elk
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all in one company

zealous wolf
sly elk
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your PC was built by a company that slapped a bunch of random parts together from different companies that were each designed to work with their own parameters

zealous wolf
sly elk
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that is the tradeoff we make

still cypress
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Prebuilt issues*

sly elk
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oh no

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people screw this up real good in DIY builds all the time 😄

hard drift
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I mean partially yes but in general pcs make more noise especially more powerful ones

sly elk
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my favorite are when people buy low-noise everything and fry their components

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but it's quiet

zealous wolf
hard drift
sly elk
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and most fan control stuff (motherboard, gpu, cpu coolers, etc) will default towards too loud but keep your cpu/gpu cool

hard drift
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Got to love gaming lol

sly elk
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like by default corsair's icue will run your fans at like 70% at 35c or something

still cypress
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Speaking of ff14, that's one thing I'm glad I can finally do again. Play that game lol

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Had it when I games on PS4 and joined the server, but have been missing it when I switched from PS4 to xbox

strong ember
potent arrow
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Who needs fans

jaunty light
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Me

potent arrow
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Literally who needs em

jaunty light
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Fans to blow me all night long

potent arrow
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Mine don't even spin properly

jaunty light
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You got weird fans

potent arrow
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Pc is fine at 100C

jaunty light
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In alaska just throw pc out window

potent arrow
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I'm in Canada

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Same thing

jaunty light
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Silly canadian

paper tusk
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I want another fan but i dont have enough space (unless i get an aoi cooler that i can't afford) sofieLost

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thought of going 140mm (x2) in front but the specs weren't as good as 120's unless i pissed away money

sly elk
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lol

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i pissed away money because i like 140mm fans

rapid hollow
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140m based

rapid hollow
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Rak has amd Radeon drivers installed on their body @modest moss

modest moss
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I'm just trying hard to say nothing

odd sand
sly elk
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there's no volume knob for the radio?

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at least it has hvac dials tho

rapid hollow
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Radeon is spewing out a yellow ! over a game
"cpu meets minimum requirement"
r5 2600
the recommended cpu ?
1600x

deep sapphire
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"Accelerations off the line at a standstill are fine with a 0–60 of 7.2 seconds. Once you get going, though, it’s blast-off every time you hit that pedal."

deep sapphire
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I wouldnt consider that fast, its fast enough for daily driving though

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good looking vehicle though I'll give it props for that

odd sand
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Well the 7.2 was the 225hp I think

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Which I think is fine given the vehicle size

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There is a little cargo area in the "engine cover" under the hood. No idea what it's for

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Looks big enough for maybe a set of gloves and jumper cables or tire patch kit?

deep sapphire
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where's the big block

odd sand
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Battery pack is on the frame /s

deep sapphire
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I saw this old guy driving a square body C/10 thing looked like swiss cheese lol

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just large rust holes all over the panels

odd sand
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Dropping weight for that 0-60

modest moss
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$47k is a lot for the cheapest RWD though

deep sapphire
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I guess for all the tech and comfort options its an acceptable price

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I agree its a bit expensive but its comparable to other vehicles in that segment

modest moss
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I guess they're aiming at bmw or audi types with it

deep sapphire
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as of now your only really affordable EV options are the Nissan Leaf and Chevrolet Bolt

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one is a Nissan and the other explodes

odd sand
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It's in the same grouping as the stinger gt and genesis

deep sapphire
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I'd still rather take the car that explodes

modest moss
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Renault Zoe isn't super expensive

deep sapphire
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we dont get Renault here

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they left the US in the 80s I think

rapid hollow
modest moss
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looks like it's still £30k ish, so idk $40k?

rapid hollow
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buy a car and get one free

deep sapphire
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thats not too bad

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did GM ever resolve that or is it still in recall limbo

modest moss
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it's tiny though

deep sapphire
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trusting LG for anything

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smh when will people learn

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wait I have an LG monitor

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SHIT

rapid hollow
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lg phone haver

modest moss
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hey my LG tv is pretty decent

rapid hollow
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my ultra wide is lg

deep sapphire
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my mom bought an LG 4K TV and it has some of the worst dimming zones I've ever seen

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its like

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14 vertical bars

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thats it

rapid hollow
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well

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she probably bought the cheapest one

deep sapphire
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so when you're watching a movie that is in letterbox (like fuckin every movie almost) you see bright ass spots on the top and bottom

sly elk
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mmm mcdonalds cookies are so good

deep sapphire
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they are pretty melty

sly elk
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my tv is so basic llmao

rapid hollow
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the LG tvs i had that were 4k and all, and the ones i have seen on clients homes like the LG G1

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they have been pretty great

sly elk
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my living room tv is a 40" panasonic dumb tv

rapid hollow
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but for like cheap smart tvs i just get a samme sung or throw a xbox one on it

deep sapphire
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LG and to a lesser extent Samsung have some serious quality control disparity issues

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they make some excellent stuff

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and then they make some absolute dog shit

sly elk
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i got my brother this insignia 32" dumb tv because uh he... breaks tvs sometimes

rapid hollow
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its

sly elk
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it's AWESOME

rapid hollow
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funny considering they make their own panels

sly elk
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but the craziest thing is it only has a power button

rapid hollow
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like my brother in christ you are fucking up your own products

sly elk
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no joystick

deep sapphire
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and its frustrating because when you look at a brand you just wanna think that "oh hey I had an LG TV before and it was great this one should be great too"

sly elk
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there's a very minimal menu that shows up if you tap the power button while the tv is on lmao

rapid hollow
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its just a button

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but my 6 series has the nipple

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yes im calling it the nipple

sly elk
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i think it's hilarious

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but seriously the tv is perfectly fine for $100

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really if I were gonna buy an 85" 4k thingy

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i want a dumb af tv

deep sapphire
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get a prison TV

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RCA

rapid hollow
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they're trying to build a prison

sly elk
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it seems 65" is as big as you can go for a dumb tv

rapid hollow
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(for you and me)

sly elk
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nah to me it's a speed thing

deep sapphire
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but does your TV have a chevy big block

rapid hollow
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idk does yours

deep sapphire
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I dont even own a TV

rapid hollow
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your monitor is a lobotomized tv

sly elk
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ye

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i thought about getting one of those 48" OLED thingies

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but i don't wanna wait for my monitor to boot

rapid hollow
deep sapphire
sly elk
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chuggga chugga

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fuck

rapid hollow
deep sapphire
sly elk
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it'd be nice to take my jeep to find out why the engine has a noticeable vibration at idle

deep sapphire
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using a V6 for a table

sly elk
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it's done it since the day i got it and I don't think it shou;d

deep sapphire
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about all its good for tbh

sly elk
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but I have a feeling if i took iot to the dealer they'd be like

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"I don't see anything wrong"

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cuz they always do that

deep sapphire
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put an OBD2 scanner in it

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take that shit to autozone, can do it right in the parking lot

sly elk
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i have a pretty good bluetooth one

rapid hollow
sly elk
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think it would have a code even if it has no cel?

deep sapphire
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its probably some sensor, and not always

sly elk
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I think it's probably a defective accessory or something

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could be

deep sapphire
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sometimes you have to look at values

sly elk
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but if it was a defective sensor I feel like it would be more obvious and throw a code?

deep sapphire
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I'd look at crankshaft position sensor or MAF

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sounds like its throwing timing off at idle causing it to surge briefly

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in theory you are correct it should throw a code

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but they dont always

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sometimes you just have to go into the actual sensor readouts

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and look at its values

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if it operates off the 14v main line and then randomly dips and goes back up for example

sly elk
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going off battery voltage on anything newer won't necessarily tell the story unfortunately

deep sapphire
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well sure but you can look at readouts of the actual sensor off a scan tool is all im saying

sly elk
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smart battery charging thingies yay

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-nod-

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i get what you're saying

deep sapphire
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crankshaft sensor is pretty common for causing idle issues, if it goes away when you accelerate in particular

sly elk
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i do assume it's a defective sensor of some sort

deep sapphire
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if its been like that since the factory it might not be inserted correctly or something

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or they didnt test it

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though frankly it shouldnt even be your responsibility to deal with it, its under warranty so if the dealer is too stupid to diagnose it I'd just go to another one

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every dealer is obligated to service a vehicle under manufacture warranty regardless of where you bought it

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(obviously only applies to the actual brand)

rapid hollow
deep sapphire
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hilarious

deep sapphire
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for an affordable price of 62,000 dollars

sly elk
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smh I've seen cars with longer trunks than that bed

deep sapphire
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yeah modern trucks have pathetic beds

sly elk
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gonna buy it?

deep sapphire
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you can get a 6.5 ft bed

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but at that point you're basically driving a train

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have fun parking that fucker

sly elk
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lol

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yea idk

deep sapphire
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I'll see if toyota decides to gouge me with a mark up on the tundra first

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im not a huge fan of the current engine offerings from GM

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the 6.2 V8 is kinda underwhelming and it requires premium fuel

sly elk
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I don't think you should pay a dime over MSRP on a tundra

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it's not because I don't think it's any good or not worth the $$

deep sapphire
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even the MSRP is kinda a joke, I thought 60 grand at the most for the TRD Pro but Toyota thinks its worth 68 MSRP

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like wtf lmao

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it doesnt even beat the power boost and that costs less

sly elk
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I don't think the tundra is normally in high demand

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sure it's a trd pro but it's not like, a hybrid rav4 in california with these gas prices lmao

deep sapphire
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thats what I thought too so I figured they would price it more reasonable

sly elk
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in fact, gas prices

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did you try reaching out to a whole bunch of dealers and checking true car and maybe seeing if there were any dealers on some kinda toyota truck forum that give better deals?

deep sapphire
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so I might just keep my shitbox around longer until all this shit stabilizes a bit and hopefully prices come down

sly elk
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not trying to patronize but just making sure

deep sapphire
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I had to put a 500 dollar deposit down so sadly im kinda fucked

rapid hollow
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hey hank

sly elk
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cuz if I went to the local jeep dealer and just asked for a jeep i'd get my ass ripped a new one xD

rapid hollow
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i have a riddle for you

deep sapphire
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I suck at riddles

sly elk
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when i bought mine i got it at 5% under invoice and the local dealer wanted msrp

rapid hollow
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how fast do you think my internet is to fill a 2tb hard drive with 3.6 tb of data of a single fucking game thats meant to be 20gb in under 10 minutes

sly elk
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lol

deep sapphire
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if anything I might just settle for the Limited trim if I can get it around 50 grand but we'll see

rapid hollow
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nope

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Valorant

sly elk
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48gbps?

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but that's not considering overhead, and at that speed it will be harsh unless you have jumbo frames and even then

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so like 60gbps at least lol

eager sandal
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should i lower my 720p res a bit more omori_thonk

sly elk
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but a 10gbps ethernet line is $$$$$$$

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so what the hell are you doing

eager sandal
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20-30fps ffxiv is death

rapid hollow
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Kyanche

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How do I fill a 2tb hard drive with 3.6tb of data

deep sapphire
sly elk
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you find out it's actually a 4tb drive

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and you were high when you built your rig

rapid hollow
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Funny enough i did find this hard drive outside doing nothing

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Just thrown

deep sapphire
rapid hollow
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And it works since like 3 years ago

eager sandal
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yes

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i am

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and the ram i ordered was faulty

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so im still stuck with 4 gigs

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3.2 usable

deep sapphire
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disgusting

eager sandal
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:(

dreamy chasm
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I wish I had a dimm that I could send to you

potent arrow
old jetty
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Btw how is windows 11? I know on release it had some problems

potent arrow
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ew

paper tusk
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its better now bugs wise but user experience wise it's still awful since no option to disable the shitty "features"

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have to use ui mods to revert to win 7 style start menu

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at least the fucking taskbar clock bug was fixed

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i think

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    Users running Windows 10 who try to upgrade directly to build 22563 or higher in the Dev Channel may encounter an install failure with error code 0x8007007f. To bypass, please join the Beta Channel, install the offered Windows 11 build there, and then switch to the Dev Channel to receive the current Dev Channel update. This issue is understood and will be fixed in an upcoming build.
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why

dull garnet
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I went back to 10

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I think I'll stay with it as long as I can

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I think the ltsc ver is supported until 2031

potent arrow
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Same lol

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Unless there is a massive security vurn, I ain't switchin

kindred brook
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Saraaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

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I tried to get a RTX 3080 FE yesterday

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but they didn't have any

potent arrow
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AARGDHDHABXBXN

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Send help it took an hour to get out of bed

mortal condor
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Zero and I mean zero reason to switch to 11

potent arrow
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There is actually one good reason

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That is, if you hate having a decent user experience

mortal condor
dusty needle
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Hello all. Brand new player and seriously struggling to download the blooming game!!!!! ‘Unable to download patch files’.

Internet suggests using VPN. That’s £10 per month for Nord VPN. Before I commit - can anyone confirm if this is the site proof way to fix it?

Or does using a wired connection work? I’m on Mac book pro and can’t even connect Ethernet to it without buying a USB-C adaptor. 🤦🏻‍♀️

modest moss
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try this

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oh wait mac

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idk if it'll work

dusty needle
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Yes MAC

modest moss
dusty needle
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I don’t think that works on MAC

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I’m trying now and downloading setup.exe doesn’t work

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Cos it’s a Microsoft application 😭

modest moss
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you don't necessarily need to pay for a VPN though, I've seen people use free ones

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@deep sapphire your apple bro needs help

dusty needle
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Please any help 🙏🏼🙏🏼

modest moss
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Hank is a good dude, he'll help if he can when he's around

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you shouldn't be having issues from a UK ISP though really

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which ISP are you with?

dusty needle
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Someone said maybe it’s my internet connection speed?

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It was ranging from 5-20MB/s

dusty needle
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Oh I’m with Three

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It’s usually quite good

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For my area

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Do you think an enternet cable will help…?

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It’s £15 on Amazon for an adaptor that’s my only reservation

modest moss
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three is mobile internet though

dusty needle
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Nah I’ve got the Wi-Fi 5G option

modest moss
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yeah, it's not a wired connection to your home

dusty needle
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I can use a wired connection but I need to buy the Ethernet adaptor - do you think I should?

modest moss
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so I can't see an ethernet cable from laptop to router making much difference

dusty needle
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Oh I see

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😦

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I feel like I might never be able to play this game lol

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Do you think NORD VPN will work?

modest moss
#

it might, but try a free vpn, or a trial

#

nord has a trial

dusty needle
#

I’m might be going crazy but I definitely can’t see the trial 😦

#

Searching everywhere and all ‘trials’ lead to this

#

I’m prepared to try £9 but just hoping it actually works to download the game 😦

modest moss
#

oh they're scummy and make you subscribe and cancel to get it 'free'

#

that recommends Proton

#

worth a try

dusty needle
#

Right thanks I’ve download Proton and will try again.

#

What a faff?

#

Appreciate your help thus far.

modest moss
#

probably three tbh

#

good luck with it

dusty needle
#

Thank you Shue.

#

Does it overly matter if my VPN is Netherlands but I’m UK?

modest moss
#

shouldn't think so

dusty needle
#

Fucking hell - unable to download patch files with VPN 🤦🏻‍♀️

#

Give up

royal forge
#

Im no expert on apple products

#

But i assume you've already made an exception for the firewall?

dusty needle
#

Apple doesn’t have a firewall

#

So you can’t disable it

#

I’m close to giving up and just thinking I’ll never play this game 😂

potent arrow
#

Bootcamp.

dusty needle
#

What’s boot camp?

latent grotto
#

Windows partition

#

Basically

modest moss
kindred brook
#

Shue's shoe changed again

modest moss
#

you're just going from phone to desktop and using a different client and os that shows emojis differently Raz

modest moss
dusty needle
#

Just checked - all off

latent grotto
#

Ngl I'd expect Apple to have like 3 redundant firewalls which you dont have access to

dusty needle
kindred brook
#

oh

#

thats probably it

modest moss
#

you'll need to check settings on your three router

modest moss
kindred brook
#

THATS WHY

#

I WAS FREAKIN OUT

#

and I swear

#

you were gaslighting me

#

but the emoji thing

#

makes more sense

dusty needle
#

Do you think if I buy an Ethernet it will solve it?

latent grotto
#

inb4 you are being gaslighted

modest moss
#

no

dusty needle
#

Ok

modest moss
#

your three connection is wifi, a wire from that router to your laptop is unlikely to make a difference

dusty needle
#

Ok

#

In which case maybe I need to accept this game won’t download for me

#

Do lots of people have difficulties with this?

#

Or is it just me

latent grotto
#

Mostly with macs

dusty needle
#

Ah fair!

latent grotto
#

And the other times are just firewall settings

modest moss
#

Raz this is what I see on my phone

dusty needle
#

Yeah of course

modest moss
#

go in your three router settings, there are probably firewall settings in there

dusty needle
#

Ok

#

I’ll have a look

modest moss
#

try setting it to DMZ temporarily or something

kindred brook
#

man

latent grotto
#

I guess shue just looks different depending on your perspective

modest moss
#

I dunno

potent arrow
dusty needle
#

Goodness yeah that sounds quite intense

odd sand
#

Wtf is this "neural engine" crap Apple keeps touting that are separate "cores" from the CPU?

rapid hollow
#

Embed not working unbased

potent arrow
#

Unless you have a newer m1 device

#

Which I do not think has bootcamp

rapid hollow
#

It has wine compatible stuff

odd sand
#

So that one event caused the entire company to implode instantly? I thought the youtube thumbnails were exaggerating talking about RIP Artesian

rapid hollow
#

Domino effect

odd sand
#

Never heard of an NPU before. Sounds like marketing snakeoil

potent arrow
potent arrow
rapid hollow
#

Them clowning on a streamer for their follow size ended up attracting bad PR and the government of Califórnia to suspend their licenses because they weren’t paying taxes

potent arrow
#

They had like fraud charges and unpaid business's liscences and all sorts of legal troubles before

rapid hollow
rapid hollow
odd sand
#

I was just looking up wiki stuff. So it's just another name for DLP like tensor cores, gotcha.

potent arrow
#

For you maybe, I don't think this user would be willing or have the technical know how. I know the casual user wouldn't

#

It's just easier to watch youtube guide on bootcamp and just do the windows install

#

Just trying to make the solution easy as possible

rapid hollow
#

Parallels 17 is easy to set up

potent arrow
#

Alright w/e that was me just trying to make it easy for people

rapid hollow
#

Or crossover

#

Crossover uses Rosetta natively to do it with programs so

#

But it’s paid

rapid hollow
rapid hollow
odd sand
#

Why does a general consumer device need deep learning though?

#

That seems like added cost for few benefits to the end consumer

hard drift
rapid hollow
#

Well, nvidia throws deep learning cores too

potent arrow
rapid hollow
#

^

#

Deep learning ia always useful when it comes to calculating the most efficient way to use your resources HAPPY

odd sand
#

It just seems weird to list GPU cores and the neural engine cores when there is no field of comparison outside of their own products

potent arrow
#

Like I fucking hate apple, but I do believe it is the correct way to go in smart resource management. From what I read, the ANE actually has a huge performance increase

odd sand
#

Bc "16 neural engine cores" doesn't mean anything in of itself

rapid hollow
#

You do realize that apple’s neural engine has been here since like the iPhone X/XS and they always compare to itself

odd sand
#

Ditto with the GPU cores when apple isn't known for good graphics, so pushing cores and not mentioning frequencies for the chips or the memory speed/bandwidth seems odd

#

But I suppose when you use combined memory for everything, you actually need DLP for the thing to not run like shit

potent arrow
rapid hollow
potent arrow
#

It's all about efficiency with the given hardware

rapid hollow
#

They’re not like “Sli’ed” or whatever

potent arrow
#

Which is great for designing future hardware imo

rapid hollow
#

Also NPU can be used for stuff like Offline OCR and dictation (Siri or text messaging)

odd sand
#

Normally system memory would be slower than GDDR, so you would see a lot lower GPU performance

rapid hollow
#

It also does some tasks related to the camera

#

Like color balance

#

Also helps with photo editing so it ain’t that bad

potent arrow
#

That's what I would take away from them using it from a system resource management perspective

odd sand
#

The one interesting thing I could see coming out of this is pushing Intel to finally abandon x86, or at least do a massive overhaul of their future motherboard chipsets

rapid hollow
#

Also tbf the ram on the m1 is the closest to the cpu/gpu it can be due to being a SoC

potent arrow
#

I mean, I really do see a future in arm processors. biased because this is the field I'm studying in

odd sand
#

Since much like a console with bespoke design performs better with less resources in graphics than a general computer, Apple doing a bespoke design should outperform a general CPU as well

rapid hollow
#

It does use LPDDR4

potent arrow
#

Arm is super resource efficient and it's basically infinitely scalable

odd sand
#

Is that why you have to spec the ram you want at ordering and can't add any later?

potent arrow
#

Nobody has used it because it's super undeveloped and the world is based around x86

#

Can't

#

Good luck

#

I'm serious

#

Government bodies will block it, arm is neutral tech

odd sand
#

Maybe if they spun off Radeon

potent arrow
#

Nvdia tried and failed

rapid hollow
#

One thing that doesn’t help arm is optimization but in its core it’s efficient and faster than most x86 counterparts

odd sand
#

I think Nvidia failed more-so because they own 90% of the GPU market

potent arrow
#

Anyone owning arm is a net negative, they would own the rights to EVERYTHING

still cypress
#

That seems like a reason for them to succeed

odd sand
#

I agree from a consumer standpoint, but from current anti-trust sentiments from governments, I think it would have a good chance of passing

#

Since AMD is only like 20% of the CPU market or less, and like 10-15% of GPUs

potent arrow
#

I really don't see any governing tech bodies to allow it to pass

#

Like I really don't

rapid hollow
potent arrow
#

And if they do they will have to keep it neutral

odd sand
#

They allowed Disney to buy Fox, for example

rapid hollow
#

No tech company should own arm

#

Arm isn’t really just a company it’s legitimately one of the essential pillars to even getting what we get today

#

It needs to be neutral

potent arrow
#

I do see Intel and AMD doing an intermediary thing between x86 and Arm by putting them in as co-processord tho

#

AMD more so FPGA because they own Xillinx

odd sand
#

How would an x86/arm hybrid even work?

rapid hollow
#

Built in arm and x86 cores with integration with firmware and software

potent arrow
#

Just using arm as a floating point operator or something

#

Just offload things from the main processor, implementing it in ways to alleviate basic operations to improve efficiency

odd sand
#

Does ARM have licensing fees?

rapid hollow
#

It wouldn’t work if the program didn’t know where it should go but leaving secondary tasks for the ARM processor would be a benefit since you’d get more efficiency out of it instead of dumping it all on the x86

potent arrow
#

Yes

odd sand
#

Bc I can't see Intel being willing to pay licensing fees for their main offerings

rapid hollow
#

They already do

potent arrow
rapid hollow
#

They had to pay 1 billion towards nvidia on licensing fees circa 2011

potent arrow
#

Like if AMD does it, they wouldn't have much a choice either

rapid hollow
#

Licensing fees don’t matter much if your product ends up being the best

#

And actually innovates

potent arrow
#

Theyll be stubborn but they'll do it

#

Intel do seem to be allergic to innovation tho

odd sand
#

We'll see now that they restructured mgmt a bit and the engineering ppl are leading

potent arrow
#

Yep

#

Only reason we got the newest arch.

rapid hollow
potent arrow
#

Like shinon said, only because engineers are leading not the bean counters

odd sand
#

I think regardless of engineers being at the head or not, they would have gone to chiplets simply bc they have to

#

They were blocked at 14nm for how many years bc of that? 5? 6?

potent arrow
#

Yeah but they kept going at it

#

I would personally hedge that they would still be at the 14nm stall game if it weren't for the new lead

rapid hollow
#

Tbf being stuck at 14 wasn’t really like a problem that they couldn’t solve

potent arrow
#

Yeah they could solve it in a million fucking years

rapid hollow
#

They just stalled at 14 because they were perfomance lead since god knows when

odd sand
#

It kinda is: You're always going to get some defects on a wafer and the larger your chip is, the more defects there will be in each one

rapid hollow
#

And could juice out every perfomance metrics they could get

odd sand
#

They were stuck at 14nm bc they couldn't get the yields necessary at 10nm with non-chiplet designs

rapid hollow
potent arrow
#

What

#

No Intel literally had yield issues

#

Like you don't get it, Intel's 10nm is denser

#

Then any other tech companies 10nm

#

Intel literally could not get good yields because of their density

odd sand
#

I think you have it backwards: They were squeezing 14nm because they weren't getting 10nm yields. Low yields of 10nm is something they admitted to themselves several years ago

rapid hollow
#

Nope

hard drift
#

yes

potent arrow
#

What

#

Yes

hard drift
#

you have to be trolling

potent arrow
#

This is official

odd sand
#

Yeah I'm done

potent arrow
#

:) I had them blocked for the past week lmfao

potent arrow
#

One of those corporate executive stupid shit

#

Also Shinon, not the best source

#

But you can do some reading into it

#

When I mentioned before on x86/arm hybrid possibility

modest moss
potent arrow
#

Chiplet design would allow for this and they've been working on "infinity fabric" kinda tech

#

So I wouldn't be suprised if we did see a hybrid eventually

hard drift
potent arrow
#

the usual ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

modest moss
hard drift
#

who says sarah hasn't namazuconcern

potent arrow
#

As annoying as you can be, I havnt yet. You do have some good educated opinions

modest moss
#

Ice does at least provide some comedy value

odd sand
#

Even if they think chiplet is "silly" it stands to reason you can't continue increasing the size of the die indefinitely given the nature of wafer production

#

Also it just makes business sense to not waste a lot of wafers on defects

potent arrow
#

Oh 100% they knew this too, I was just thinking internally that they were thinking 10nm would be possible

#

It must've been in reasonable rate of waste that they still believed so

#

Well untill the waste got bad enough that they had to change lead

odd sand
#

I think they knew they would have to change, but thought they could still make 10nm work, but guessed wrong lol

potent arrow
#

Lmfao yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. Apologies, I'm shit at getting my point across

odd sand
#

Then it would take years to make a chiplet design, so they had to keep polishing the turd. Which mostly worked out for them since AMD was still a no-show until the very tail end of 14nm

potent arrow
#

But yeah they'll hit a limit on chiplet design too

#

Because of how x86 is, eventually they can't make the interconnect between them faster enough

#

That's where arm comes in, their scaling is insane due to their instruction sets and what not

odd sand
#

And to their credit: The 10th gen only being like 3-5% behind in single core IPC despite being like 14nm++++++ or w/e is pretty impressive

potent arrow
#

Hell we are seeing that scaling power in M1 Ultra(?). Apple basically put two m1 cores together and because their interconnect is so fast, it acts like one core

#

But double everything

odd sand
#

Double the power, Quadruple the price /s

potent arrow
#

It's so cool to see, even though I hate apple lmfao

#

Oh probably more then that 🤣

potent arrow
#

I would love to graduate and work for apple and be on the front of this

#

This is the cutting edge tech that I live for

odd sand
#

Yeah, as much as I don't care for Apple anymore bc they're still anti-consumer in a lot of ways, I do appreciate them putting Intel and Nvidia on their heels

potent arrow
#

Yep, cannot deny innovation when I see it

odd sand
#

The one thing is including the 10Gb ethernet

#

After I'm settled in the apartment, I want to overhaul my network stack and get 10gbe for my desktop, or at least 2.5gbe

potent arrow
#

I want too do that, atleast from my main pc to my NAS

odd sand
#

Although maybe I can just wait for the new Intel stuff in the fall and just find a motherboard that comes with 2.5 onboard

potent arrow
#

But I'm not sure where to start on it yet

#

Because my dad and mom might want 10gb access too

#

...and my nuc at the tv that acts as a plexbox

#

So I have to plan that out

#

Like cat6 is 40m? Max? For 10gb?

odd sand
potent arrow
#

I purposely avoided mesh ice

odd sand
#

I don't fully understand what SFP+ is, but I think it's a port that can support multiple network types

potent arrow
#

I have a standard business AP set up

potent arrow
odd sand
#

Cat6 is like 40ft I thought not 40m

#

But there is a guide out there

potent arrow
#

You can make it fiber or cat

odd sand
#

If you have Cat6e, you should be fine

potent arrow
#

Huh?

odd sand
#

Okay yeah that sounds right

potent arrow
#

I just have one AP per floor

#

Yeah

#

Multiple aps

#

It's the floors you have to worry about

odd sand
#

Do you have more than one AP?

potent arrow
#

Wall penetration with most aps are not an issue

odd sand
#

Use a wifi analyzer on a tablet or phone and find where the signal drops off and try to reposition

potent arrow
#

Tplink Omada is good

#

Yeah

#

So

#

That's why I avoid mesh

#

:)

odd sand
#

Get Ruckus APs then or something I dunno lol

potent arrow
#

I personally use tplink Omada

#

Because it's none cloud based

odd sand
potent arrow
#

My controller is a raspberry pi

#

LOL

#

Ruckus used cloud so I didn't chose them

#

Like fuck having my devices all cloud based :(

odd sand
#

Must depend on the type, bc I think our Ruckus was hosted locally when we needed to log in for mgmt

potent arrow
#

@tame fulcrum

#

Throw the omada controller on the pi

potent arrow
#

Idk, I never messed with ruckus

#

My main router is ubuiquiti, but I can't afford their shit so the aps are tplink

odd sand
#

My friend's new condo is nice. The junction box is in the closet wall, which is basically centrally located to the entire unit

#

So 5ghz coverage is decent in all rooms

#

Granted, it's only an 1100ft condo so

potent arrow
#

Ah

#

Oh talking about networking, I forgot look what I got yesterday

#

Procurve

#

It has four sftp, I think it can do 10gb

kindred brook
#

Sorry 3080

#

I can't buy you at MSRP

#

so I buy a bicycle instead

#

pepe cry

hard drift
#

Lol

kindred brook
#

anyone know anything

#

about bikes

#

fat tire?

#

streets

#

mostly

#

90%

#

there are trails

dusty needle
#

Omg closest I’ve ever got 🤞🏼

odd sand
#

Never heard of Northrock

kindred brook
#

I think its exclusive to Costco

#

its a brand of giant

#

Costco is kind of nice

#

because you canbring it back

odd sand
#

Are the trails paved or gravel? It's going to be easier to pedal on streets with a gravel bike than a mountain bike bc it's lighter and less knobby tires

kindred brook
#

its kind of half and half

#

the road here

#

is kind of shit

#

arizona is known

#

for shitty roads/streets

odd sand
#

If it's made by Giant it should be okay I guess? You get what you pay for though, of course

#

Otherwise it's a bit more, but there is probably a comparable one from Trek

kindred brook
#

oh nice

#

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waswatching that

odd sand
#

Or this:

#

Made in China namazuconcern

#

What you're gonna worry about is the frame snapping with the cheap chinese welds then I guess heh

kindred brook
#

oh shit

#

if I can find it for 350

#

thats not too bad

#

costco has a good return policy

odd sand
#

But if all you want is "One Bike, Please." then sure go for it

#

You could even buy more road-friendly tires if you wanted to

kindred brook
#

lol

#

one bike plz

odd sand
#

Something with less aggressively knobby tread if you'll mostly be doing roads and small gravel

kindred brook
#

Damn Shinon

#

you know bikes huh

#

do you ride 50 miles a week

odd sand
#

I aspire to bike 50 miles a week, but usually it was more like 10-20/week ;p

kindred brook
#

lol

#

still alot!!

odd sand
#

Think of it like car tires: Trucks with giant knobby tires are loud and get bad MPG

#

Bad MPG in the sense of biking = it's harder to pedal

#

So you want to balance the tread with the surfaces you will be on

#

Unfortunately you can't shave weight on the low end bikes, so that will always be a thing

kindred brook
#

OOOOOOO

#

Arizona

#

is going to be pretty hot

#

in the summer

#

I wonder if those tires will be better

#

biking in 100 degree weather

#

KEK

modest moss
#

Raz stop buying shit you'll never use

#

Find some kid selling a used (stolen) bike on craigslist, pay him $50, then if you actually use it spend more

odd sand
#

.

kindred brook
#

NO

#

I AM GOING TO USE A BIKE

#

TO GO TO TEH GYM

#

gas is expensive

#

I rather bike

#

I like bikes

kindred brook
#

damn

umbral moss
#

I could see microsoft turning around and using their android wrapper as the "mobile app store" for a new windows phone

#

rip windows phone, you died alone and unloved

deep sapphire
#

@potent arrowlmao seems DeWalt's new power stack battery flopped, Lowes is giving you a free tool if you buy a 179 dollar kit that comes with 2 of the batteries or HD if you buy a 99 dollar battery/charger you get a free tool

#

maybe 1.7 watt hours wasnt a genius idea when it barely lasts 15 minutes

odd sand
#

1.7 isn't too much smaller than the base Milwaukee battery which is 2.0

umbral moss
#

isn't the power stack thing for bursts of power?

odd sand
#

But those are only used for dinky things like the lights and other small tools

umbral moss
#

I remember project farm was testing it a few weeks ago

#

what I recall is that power stack performed better in applications where you need more current for instant power draw, but the batteries obviously don't last as long

#

since most people are using regular drills and not battery powered impact drills, there's not much demand for it

deep sapphire
#

they have more power out of the gate but it doesnt last long and the 4.0 amp hour battery not only keeps pace with it, it lasts 3x longer lmao

#

and its the same price

#

wtf was dewalt thinking

#

oh right, they dont

#

their atomic impact drivers are having high failure rates

umbral moss
deep sapphire
#

where's bidori

#

WHY IS TAGGING PEOPLE SO HARD IN DISCORD NOW

#

@hard drift

#
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#

so AMD's brand new state of the art mobile platform is doing well huh

umbral moss
#

🤔

#

is AMD responsible for asus using inadequate cooling?

#

must make laptop thiiiiiiiiiiin

#

has no cooling

deep sapphire
#

I was more talking about the drivers

umbral moss
#

I mean, yeah, that's typical AMD lmao

latent grotto
#

hotter=faster

#

i see nothing wrong with this

umbral moss
#

just means you got more boost

latent grotto
#

/s

umbral moss
hard drift
#

Now back to the void i go

deep sapphire
#

300 dollars off

#

just came out

#

oh no no no

hard drift
#

Yeah nvidia about to refresh smug

#

And 6000 mobile about to be out and it uses the way better igpu

deep sapphire
#

im ready for a 4080

umbral moss
hard drift
deep sapphire
#

im ready for a 4080

umbral moss
#

I'm also ready for it to be out of stock for two years and scalped to the moon

deep sapphire
#

gonna buy an i3 now so im ready for it

hard drift
#

Okay bye now

deep sapphire
#

wait

#

come back

#

@hard drift

#

probably didnt even leave

#

he's looking at his phone rn

#

addicted to discord

deep sapphire
potent arrow
#

I had one fail on me hank

deep sapphire
#

I legit dont understand DeWalt

#

I think they make the best cutting tools and their drills are pretty decent but other than that its total dog shit

potent arrow
#

Hank, my friend gave me one to use with my sazall

#

And it like

#

Shit itself after two deck posts

#

.-.

#

I've never seen a battery die so fast

deep sapphire
#

BUT DEWALT SAID ITS THE FUTURE!

#

fuckin 4 amp hour battery lasts 3x longer and it has maybe 3 percent less power output

potent arrow
#

I think they also didn't account for the fact that people work in shit conditions like -25C

modest moss
deep sapphire
#

I gotchu babe

modest moss
#

do they do a right hand drive version?

deep sapphire
#

actually yes they do, they sell them in Australia now

modest moss
#

awesome, thanks

#

feet pics are in the mail

deep sapphire
#

LMAO

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god I want this tool but Makita never has any fuckin sales on their 40v line

odd sand
#

40V? Geez

potent arrow
#

Millfuckee team bceTired2Dead2

hard drift
#

Now stop bullying me 😭

deep sapphire
hard drift
#

Jk, he is just lucky and makes money doing it lol

hard drift
#

Ewww smoking indoors

modest moss
#

lads are we bullying bidori again?

deep sapphire
#

always

modest moss
#

imagine not @ing me

deep sapphire
#

anytime I type someone's name in the search it doesnt even find them

modest moss
#

@hard drift

deep sapphire
#

I never had this problem before

modest moss
#

I find him with @"idor"

deep sapphire
#

that guy has a nice handle bar stache

#

just smokes some cigs from 1943

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

you helping your old man at the black jack table?

modest moss
#

helping him count to 21?

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

"dad double down on this hand he's got 14 he has to stay"

modest moss
#

"dad you have 17 with 3 cards, you can easily get a 5 card trick, my extensive experience in the gold saucer says it's on"

deep sapphire
#

hahaha

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

"thats 30"

#

LMAO!

hard drift
#

that was dumb

#

and angers me since i love blackjack 😭

dull garnet
#

Early family guy is pretty good

old jetty
#

btw I asked this before, but got no proper answer

#

is windows 11 still "bad"?

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performance whise I mean

modest moss
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you got as good an answer as you'll get tbh, people are staying on 10 or have reverted back to 10

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so unless 11 has an essential feature you need

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if you want specific performance metrics you'll need to google an in-depth comparison

old jetty
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uhm... I see

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I'm just gathering opinions from different places

deep sapphire
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Windows is fairly buggy within a "window of time" of about a year, but not always

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people shit on Windows 8 but performance and stability wise I had zero issues with it at launch

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Windows 10 was a different story

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If you are fine with Windows 10 then just stay you arent gaining any major benefit from switching, but if you want the free upgrade you will have to do it fairly soon and just live with any minor issues

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most of the major issues have been resolved

hard drift
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you have atleast until oct 5th so take your time on 10

potent arrow
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Bro I just set my shirt on fire with a plasma torch

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;-;

modest moss
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are you ok though?

potent arrow
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Mildly singed!

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Soaked in fire extinguisher

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But I'm fineeee

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HALF MY SLEEVE IS GONE THO

jaunty light
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Do it again!

potent arrow
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Well this sheet metal won't cut itself

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So I gotta go back to it after I find a new shirt

latent grotto
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Sarah just committing every OSHA violation imaginable

boreal surge
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Since you’re alive and well, we get to call you a lucky idiot right?

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Also who blasted the extinguisher at you?

kindred brook
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Where does she work

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so I can file a report

sly elk
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i'm not seeing vw microbus at all

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front clip is pretty sweet

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i think i like everything except the back haha

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i like how the memory module heatsinks match the cpu waterblock

modest moss
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@potent arrow make sure to tell your gf we're v.disappointed with you

boreal surge
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I’m guessing the rear overhang spoiler is what’s screwing up the minibus design

sly elk
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just the shape of the back door in general is kinda yuck

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looking back at the 21 year old concept

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I think what's missing are the curved front/rear windows

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it's remarkable how similar the designs are, honestly

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rounded front windows were not unusual in the 2000s but I think they killed that because rounded glass is harder to make and more expensive

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and in order to make a fancier car interior while not increasing costs, you cheap out on everything else!

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cheap out on electronics, cheap out on engine components, cheap out on trim pieces, cheap out on physical controls by just installing touchscreens

paper tusk
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in the case of the id buzz/cargo, the battery seems cheapened out (77kw)