technology-discussion

[dreamy chasm]

Just a cache chiplet slapped onto thr chip

[hard drift]

B2 is node improvements so that should be all of them for newer produced cpus

[kindred brook]

oh ok

is there going to be a Ryzen 9 3D

also is this just a marketing gimmick

how much extra frames

will I actually see

lol

actually 20%?

oh wait thats at 1080p too

wthhhh

[hard drift]

Nobody knows and no it’s not a gimmick

[kindred brook]

SO THIS IS WHAT I SHOULD GET

to upgrade me

6700k

[hard drift]

If you’re in the market for a new cpu and are on am4 sure

Otherwise I’d wait unless you need to upgrade

[kindred brook]

I have a 6700k with a 3080 ti

er

3070 ti*

[hard drift]

13th gen intel and am5 for amd

[kindred brook]

pepe hands

ok I wait

DDR5

is bullshit

expensive

[hard drift]

You’ll need to upgrade anyways lol

By the time new stuff is out it should be cheaper

[dreamy chasm]

12th gen Intel is fine if you need an upgrade now

I doubt am5 is coming anytime soon

[hard drift]

It’s this year same with 13th gen intel supposedly

[dreamy chasm]

Q3 2022 release when it's currently January

Could be Q3-Q4

Are we seriously suggesting the person wait that long?

[kindred brook]

I mean DDR5 prices

are stupidly outrageous still

[dreamy chasm]

Ddr4

[kindred brook]

if I'm going to upgrade

I rather just do it once

lol

in like 5 years

[dreamy chasm]

Ddr4 boards exist, and the differences are only substantial for productivity

[potent arrow]

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005002886563520.html

[kindred brook]

those boards come with like almost no bells and whistles

for the price

I atleast want an onboard

[hard drift]

I said if they’re not needing to upgrade yeah, otherwise both offerings atm are good

[kindred brook]

error code lol

[hard drift]

You can get a cheap board piece for it

[kindred brook]

oh yea?

😮

[kindred brook]

I still got to figure out if I will see

a substanial fps gain

from 6700k lol

[hard drift]

You’ll see a big gain at 1080p

[dreamy chasm]

6700k is roughly as good as the 3600 for most things

And that's assuming you're running a fresh OS

[modest moss]

Raz your pc is fine, stop this shit

[dreamy chasm]

With nothing running in the background

I'm just saying, now isn't a bad time to upgrade if you need to

[kindred brook]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-pepehands-crying-gif-12683546

[modest moss]

he plays XIV and streams at 1080p60 with no stuttering

he's fine

[dreamy chasm]

Should be fine if it's just xiv

[hard drift]

Lol

[modest moss]

he's just doing the NEW TOYS thing

[kindred brook]

but my 4k 144hz monitor

only gets

90 FPS

[hard drift]

That’s your gpu not cpu more than likely

[kindred brook]

rip my 3070 TI

[modest moss]

are you buying a 3090?

[hard drift]

Higher resolutions are less cpu bound

[kindred brook]

can't even do

[dreamy chasm]

On xiv?

[kindred brook]

144hz

[dreamy chasm]

90 fps

[kindred brook]

yeah

[dreamy chasm]

That's def not the gpu

that said

[hard drift]

Where are you at and anything extra?

[dreamy chasm]

I get 88 fps in limsa on a 3700x

So

[hard drift]

At 4k?

[modest moss]

Raz you need to either build a whole new system or chill

I say chill

[dreamy chasm]

You're acting as if resolution would change anything when xiv is primarily cpu dependant

Anyways

[kindred brook]

FC house

shirogane

so it can drop

thats 90 FPS idle

[hard drift]

I mean limsa at 4k is way worse but yeah

[kindred brook]

at 4k

[modest moss]

the difference between 1080p and 4k will be huge on both cpu and gpu

Raz's system is solid

spend nothing

[kindred brook]

ok but when SHOULD

I spend

[modest moss]

or spend $5k on a whole new rig

[hard drift]

When you NEED it

[modest moss]

when you can get a 4090 at msrp

[kindred brook]

RIP RIP

maybe I should get a new fan

it might be because

[dreamy chasm]

I doubt xiv is causing a 3070ti to cap out at 4k

lol

[kindred brook]

my CPU is not getting enough cooling

[hard drift]

Wtf

[kindred brook]

I bought a AIO cooler and some of the pins

[hard drift]

Why are you after other things then

[kindred brook]

were janky

well

[hard drift]

???

[kindred brook]

ok ok so heres the story

built my rig when 6700k was fresh

been slowly replacing parts

like my AIO cooler

and PSU

after they broke

so I was like shiit I wonder if those components

harmed my CPU in anyway

oh

my mobo died too

had to replace that

but yeah the AIO cooler I got from ebay was from this dood

[hard drift]

…

[kindred brook]

who just threw that shit into a box

and it was bouncing around

when I got it the heatspreader

[hard drift]

You’re on your own lol

[kindred brook]

had bent

spreaders?

is it called a spreader

[dreamy chasm]

... Is your 6700k throttling

[kindred brook]

I don't think so

how do I check

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/mila-stauffer-whatever-eye-roll-gif-13204669

[hard drift]

[dreamy chasm]

Keep a monitoring program on while you do shit

Hwinfo

etc

It'll tell you max temps

[kindred brook]

I have my AIO at MAX fan speed

just incase

and its LOUD

Lol

[modest moss]

I say Cyan just claimed ownership of this ticket

[dreamy chasm]

The part that makes contact to the cpu is the coldplate

[hard drift]

Yup lol

[dreamy chasm]

I'm leaving too, idk

[hard drift]

Pfft

[modest moss]

lol no, you're his mama now

[hard drift]

Finish helping your customer now

[modest moss]

Cyan the techmama

[dreamy chasm]

[hard drift]

I got a verbal talking to from them when i didn’t finish :p

[modest moss]

I seriously do think Raz should just stop fucking with shit though

it's running well

just game

[hard drift]

Yeah

Worst case lower settings and call it a day

[modest moss]

90fps at 4k, who cares, just play

stream is fine at 1080p60

be happy

or spend idk, $2k on psu/mobo/cpu/ram/cooling for minimal gains

[dreamy chasm]

90s fine unless there's severe stutters

[modest moss]

doesn't sound worth it

[dreamy chasm]

You can get a 12400f+b660 for 350 bucks

2k is a bit much

[modest moss]

have you met Raz/

[dreamy chasm]

No

[hard drift]

Lol

[modest moss]

he ain't gonna buy budget kit

[dreamy chasm]

[hard drift]

😭

[dreamy chasm]

Why not.

[modest moss]

big number syndrome

[dreamy chasm]

What?

[hard drift]

Newegg tempting me

[modest moss]

he likes big numbers, thinks they're better, won't be happy with good, wants more more more

[dreamy chasm]

Even a 12600k+decent z690 won't be anymore than 600

[hard drift]

Rip

Z690 also allows 13th gen luckily

[modest moss]

lol you're mad if you think he'd buy an i5

[dreamy chasm]

Their loss

[hard drift]

I5 is fine for most people 😔

[dreamy chasm]

Gains from 12th gen i5 onwards aren't v high outside of multi threaded tasks, which is mostly productivity workloads

[modest moss]

I'd buy i5, you'd buy i5

but Raz is in the Levant camp

buy buy buy

[kindred brook]

HEY I don't buy at

hyper inflated prices

I wait for deals

DDR5

is

I'll wait till they are similar to DDR4 prices

before jumping in I guess

I thought DDR5 is like 500 bucks

right now

[hard drift]

Early adopter tax

[hard drift]

Depends on the kit

[hard drift]

That doesn’t mean buy ddr5 and upgrade though raz

[kindred brook]

woah its in stock

😮

[dreamy chasm]

The 12600k+z690 is objectively a deal considering it runs fine on d4

[kindred brook]

wtf is fake memory

LOL

[dreamy chasm]

Don't you already have a 5800x

Ah.

Split dimms and sell as a fortnite epic gamer pc

Flip each for 200 over cost

Use a cheap case and rgb fans

[carmine knot]

is this what they call ghosting in monitor? i had a chrome window on this monitor, then i move the window to another monitor, there are some traces of it remain there

[dreamy chasm]

Slap on a gtx 750ti on each and sell as a fortnite gamer pc

ez money

Burn in, yeah

[carmine knot]

ah okay, will look that up, thanks

[dreamy chasm]

Your coding mishaps will haunt you for all eternity

Jk

There's some ways to mitigate it but, I'm unsure as to which

[carmine knot]

no haha, it's not my code, i was checking somebody elses code

[blazing summit]

unsure if this is a stupid impulse thought but been wanting to get into VR stuff, should i get the index or wait for another vr headset, just noticed that it released nearly 3 years ago

dis thing

yea, i think the only changes maybe are the weight distribution and internals

same basic layout really

1st time i was introduced to VR was the google cardboard vr headsets but that was extremely restrictive and was just looking at a basic 360 degree image with some sounds

[hard drift]

how long have you had the monitor?

[deep sapphire]

Monitor burn in is pretty rare in modern displays

[modest moss]

have you restarted the pc tho?

[hard drift]

yeah which is why i was wondering how old it is, i'd send it back for warranty if not that old

[modest moss]

Ice are you doing public windowshopping again?

that means

yes

[hard drift]

[modest moss]

window shopping is literally looking at stuff you ain't gonna buy

[hard drift]

also why would it be 100 dollars???? you talking per or total

unrealistic even in normal standards

[dreamy chasm]

I doubt d5 prices will drop for another year

I remember when 8 gb of d3 was 20 bucks

[hard drift]

you realize ddr4 is way older than ddr5 right???

[dreamy chasm]

Those were the days

[modest moss]

when do you move in?

will they keep you off the internet?

lads, let's start a gofundme to put Ice in care

[dreamy chasm]

Sell his system and I'm sure that'd be enough to fund a few years

Fair

[modest moss]

still, we'd get a couple of weeks respite

https://tenor.com/view/lolol-lol-funny-laughing-hahaha-gif-17418747

[hard drift]

sarah built her keyboard pretty sure

[carmine knot]

around 11 months

[hard drift]

send it back, that's really bad

should be under warranty still

[carmine knot]

yeah and it's one high end monitor as well

[carmine knot]

nope, didnt want to resort to that option to fix this issue

was hopping it was just some configuration issue

[hard drift]

try a restart and if it keeps happening file the warranty

[carmine knot]

erm no it's actually quite hard to reproduce the issue

sometimes the traces are there and sometimes dont

[hard drift]

are you doing something specific to cause it?

[carmine knot]

nope

i was just simply browsing something on my main monitor

[hard drift]

does turning the monitor off then on again fix it?

[carmine knot]

move the window to another monitor and i noticed the traces there

[carmine knot]

didnt try that, will try that when i have the issue again

[modest moss]

update video drivers
try a different cable

[carmine knot]

video driver is up to date, as of the cable, it's abit pricey to buy one

my main monitor is 1440p 270hz

[sly elk]

i wonder why this would be too haha like

dude has $5000 in I dunno, climbing equipment

people: WOW SO COOL!

dude has $5000 in computer equipment

people: WTF NERD

[umbral moss]

there's a weird double peak in any hobby/collection where people are like "huh, that's cool" when you only have one or two things, and then "ok, that's honestly impressive" when you have a lot of that thing

but the valley between them is varying degrees of derision

[jaunty light]

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-new-york-sister-patterson-pervert-you-creep-creep-gif-12967844

[jaunty light]

[lost gust]

i'm so fucking close to sell my rx 6900 XT and buy a expensive stupid nvidia card -.-

[deep sapphire]

why

whats wrong with it

@hard drift

hey hows your dad doing

[hard drift]

😒

[lost gust]

every fucking time! I'm done with this shit! square enix or amd give a shit to fix this stupid issue

i'm tired to see this fatal error

[hard drift]

it's just ffxiv lol and it's not unique to amd just more common

we've seen an increase in nvidia issues too recently @deep sapphire can't deny it

[deep sapphire]

[hard drift]

deny all you want the proof is in #technology-discussion

[modest moss]

we made the majority of amd users unsub

[hard drift]

lmao

oh wait we are in #technology-discussion lmfao i didn't even know where i was

[deep sapphire]

explains why we havent had a lot of people coming in here with issues

[lost gust]

i will never understand why they cant fix this stupid error

[deep sapphire]

been pretty quiet lately

[modest moss]

all we get these days is Icehunter 'shopping' and AM being filthy

[deep sapphire]

@jaunty light

[lost gust]

still don't know its a ffxiv issue or more a amd issue..

[hard drift]

ffxiv

[deep sapphire]

what all have you done to troubleshoot it

could be another program

[jaunty light]

@deep sapphire

[deep sapphire]

cute

CUTE

[jaunty light]

Excuse me I am seiso

[modest moss]

I don't speak weeb soz

[deep sapphire]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Seiso

vtubers

lol

fuckin weeb

[modest moss]

thanks weeb

[jaunty light]

[modest moss]

Weebware_Weeb

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VECamDGDV4

[modest moss]

Hank

[deep sapphire]

Shue

[modest moss]

Real talk

[deep sapphire]

whats up buddy

[modest moss]

When you get your truck are you going to put an anime girl wrap on it?

[deep sapphire]

nah

I live in the country

I'd get shot probably

[modest moss]

at least get an anime girl plushie to hang off the rear view mirror

[hard drift]

hank guess what

[deep sapphire]

good idea

hey bidori

whats up!

[hard drift]

the first 6 directx errors on the ffxiv forums are 80% nvidia

[deep sapphire]

makes sense, nvidia has 95 percent marketshare

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/627219798983704588.webp?size=44&quality=lossless

[hard drift]

for now

[deep sapphire]

so if we do the math

95 percent market share

[jaunty light]

Just do it hank

[deep sapphire]

while AMD is 5 percent

but has 20 percent

seems AMD is more prone

to failing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/627219798983704588.webp?size=44&quality=lossless

[jaunty light]

Even better, get a wrap of an anime girl who is an anthropomorphic representation of something your area loves

[deep sapphire]

do what

im gonna put a giant sega bass fishing logo on it

[jaunty light]

Whats popular in your area of minnysoota

[deep sapphire]

being cold

[jaunty light]

Cold-chan catching some big bass bam

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

On second thought that sounds like it can be taken out of context by shue

[lost gust]

i will never understand why square enix don't try to fix this error

[hard drift]

it's not widespread enough and there are too many variations of hardware and software that could be messing with it

so it could be an issue on their side or it could be the user side

more than likely the user side

[deep sapphire]

but you just said it was ffxiv

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/627219798983704588.webp?size=44&quality=lossless

[lost gust]

every single issue can be a user issue. But think its a ffxiv issue because i fresh installed my pc complete and installed ffxiv only and i got it too

[hard drift]

did you let windows install drivers

[lost gust]

windows installed his own updates and i installed by amd.com the driver for my gpu

[hard drift]

what about chipset/bios updates

[lost gust]

latest

[hard drift]

for both chipset and bios?

what about gpu

[lost gust]

u mean update the chip from the gpu?

[hard drift]

no, the chipset being the motherboard chipset for example x570 or b550

[lost gust]

here my setup: MSI B450 AC | Ryzen 7 3700X | 32GB RipJaws V 3200 | Sapphire RX 6900 XT Nitro+ | BeQuiet 11 850W Platinum | 840 Evo 120GB + 960GB MP510 | Win10-64bit | Acer XV340CKP + XV272UP | Fractial Design Define R5

I still update it.

[hard drift]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/b450

it's different from the bios and gpu updates

[lost gust]

the question is which is important

[hard drift]

i just do all of them, the only one that doesn't really matter usually is powerplan for desktops but can still do it

[lost gust]

done

[hard drift]

see if that helps because i don't encounter many problems with it

[lost gust]

but i don't must install it with every fresh OS right?

[hard drift]

if you reinstall windows yes you must

[lost gust]

allright

[buoyant ruin]

Does anyone know how I can customize my logitech lightsych with the game?
It's nice but I want to light up the rest of the keys a little...
Sorry if this is not in the appropriate channel, if so point me to the right direction please.

[modest moss]

you're in the right place, whether anyone knows is a different matter though

[hard drift]

yeah, i personally have no experience with doing that stuff so no idea

[modest moss]

yeah, same, I just have a g203 and never installed the logitech software

[potent arrow]

I have the higher end logi garbage

But I don't have rgb

Rgb is for chuds

[hard drift]

agreed

[buoyant ruin]

i c

[jaunty light]

They hate us cuz they aint us

[candid crater]

i... dont know whats causing this or how to fix it
i have:
-tried running ffxiv in dx9 AND dx11
-restarted pc
-ran in fullscreen and borderless

actually i DO know whats causing this:
My game's crashing trying to load the Rising Stones

i wanna keep playing the game so idk what to do

[modest moss]

use this to do an integrity check

https://github.com/goatcorp/FFXIVQuickLauncher/releases

[modest moss]

link that wondrous tails thing please

[candid crater]

umm... i dont know what this is

[modest moss]

it's an unofficial launcher, much better than the official one

[candid crater]

ah

[modest moss]

it can do an integrity check on your XIV files to see if any are corrupt

if you're crashing going into a specific location that's quite likely, and a reinstall of the game should solve it

[candid crater]

its auto-launching ffxiv when i click the desktop icon

[hard drift]

Gimme a sec

http://ffxiv.morpheusz.com/p/wondrous-tails-solver.html

sorry wasn't at my pc, cleaning kitchen for my parents

[hard drift]

Hold shift

[modest moss]

hold shift while clicking the shortcut if it's doing that

[modest moss]

thanks

[hard drift]

Np

[candid crater]

...eh?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

what do i do

[modest moss]

put in the correct path for your game install

[candid crater]

THAT WAS THE CORRECT PATH

[modest moss]

obviously wasn't

[candid crater]

THATS LITERALLY MY STEAM INSTALL PATH

[quaint spear]

shout, shout, let it al out

[modest moss]

I don't know what to tell you, it was able to launch the game, it should be able to integrity check it

[candid crater]

SCREW THIS IM REINSTALLING

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-seseren-cute-angry-screaming-gif-17757372

[quaint spear]

hehe

[hard drift]

did you check the option that you're using steam in the settings

[candid crater]

yes

[hard drift]

idk then

[candid crater]

ill reinstall

another night of my life lost

[hard drift]

🙏 hopefully it fixes it lol

[modest moss]

thanks Bidori, 8 second chance points gone

[candid crater]

is, uh... talking about mods banned here

[hard drift]

[glossy timber]

Non

We just judge you

[candid crater]

do you get judged for using gshade

[glossy timber]

Non

[hard drift]

Eh depends most mods are okay to talk about although advice and such on them go to #general-discussion probably

[hard drift]

No

[candid crater]

ah ok

[odd sand]

Those that can, do. Those that can't ... flail around redownloading the game for 4-6hrs not knowing if that will even help after giving up on the launcher that helps 95% of ppl after 10mins

[glossy timber]

You only get judged for the ethot glam mods

Oh I've seen that mod
Think it's kinda stinky but go for it

[deep sapphire]

I am a Square Enix official brand ambassador, I have forwarded this issue to our team to conduct a review if this constitutes against the terms of service

AMD sucks

[candid crater]

so, im getting banned?

[deep sapphire]

no

I was kidding lol

[candid crater]

dude dont do that

im jokedeaf

[candid crater]

wait how did you know i use amd

[glossy timber]

Hank had less authority than your average user because the mods actively ignore him

[deep sapphire]

because you are having problems

[candid crater]

im gonna leave before a squeenix member sees me

[deep sapphire]

I'll make sure to pin your comment when you said you use mods

[hard drift]

😔

[candid crater]

what comment

[latent grotto]

[candid crater]

i just wanted my game to be prettier

[latent grotto]

Me having a directx crash when I close the game and its like ???

[dull garnet]

no jokes

[deep sapphire]

all pokes

[civic pond]

the only issues I've had with amd graphics cards started happening when I reinstalled windows after swapping motherboard and cpu. But the second reinstall pretty much fixed all of my weird crashes that were happening and I don't know why

tbh i think it was windows more than anything

[deep sapphire]

sure never had this many issues back on the sega genesis

[dull garnet]

plug and play baby

[civic pond]

i wish the windows amd drivers were as good as the linux ones

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5q3vY4VWa8&t=112s

[dull garnet]

i found a DSi when i was going through some ewaste earlier

[deep sapphire]

throw it back in

[dull garnet]

i'll throw you back in

[deep sapphire]

[civic pond]

alright, question real quick, laptops definitely doesn't have a good fan curve, how do I change it?

[deep sapphire]

can use a program called fan speed though there might be a utility program that comes with the laptop or offered by the vendor

oh wait the program is called speedfan

derp

[civic pond]

there was one installed by default but I very stupidly uninstalled it and I can't find an install for it from the vendor.

[deep sapphire]

https://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

php

[civic pond]

alright thank you

[deep sapphire]

np

[deep sapphire]

I put this soundtrack at half speed to give me the PAL experience

[dull garnet]

only someone as old as hank would recommend speedfan

[deep sapphire]

STILL WORKS BABY

[civic pond]

i can;t imagine what ocarina of time was like in pal regions

[dull garnet]

i always thought it was awful

[dull garnet]

i don't need to imagine, i lived it

[civic pond]

rip

[deep sapphire]

thats because it is awful but it works

[dull garnet]

there's seriously no fan curve option in the uefi?

smh

[civic pond]

there probably is but I hate hp's interfaces(i got this laptop from a friend. Its probably not great but its good enough for me)

[deep sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/888779205532344320/936744712566603856/E6F5UiQ.mp4

[civic pond]

honestly i think this laptop was an ok value. I got through one of my friends because he apparently gets $200 off hp products so I got this laptop significantly cheaper and its been doing well, but needs more ram.

i don't know what I was on when I though 8gb of ram was enough for my computing habits

[hard drift]

i only have my dslite 😭 never had an I or above

[dull garnet]

i have a phat, two lite, two i and an i xl

[civic pond]

@deep sapphire what the fuck am i looking at?

[dull garnet]

hahaha

speedfan

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/1OkBRELqEgM?t=508

[civic pond]

alright. I'll check that out.

[deep sapphire]

you could try some others like ASUS but I dont know if they gate people out of non ASUS shit

[civic pond]

I think I'm going to have to. Nothing's showing up for fan controllers

[deep sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/627219798983704588.webp?size=44&quality=lossless

@hard drift

thanks for the emote

[deep sapphire]

check UEFI bios then see if you can adjust it in there

[civic pond]

Alright.

[deep sapphire]

speedfan is kinda a bitch to configure but not a lot of options available

[hard drift]

Shush you smh

[deep sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/627219798983704588.webp?size=44&quality=lossless

[hard drift]

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CJo1yC919s

[civic pond]

The most fan control the hp bios gives is whether or not the fan is always on or not.

[latent grotto]

3100rpm?

[latent grotto]

Sounds about right for hp

[odd sand]

Someone hasn't heard of a breaker bar or using a torch /s

[deep sapphire]

Hell even an impact would be fine it’s on the front lmao

One time I cracked open my finger nail trying to get this set screw off lmao

[odd sand]

Silliest thing like that we had happen was a rotor that just would not budge. At all.

Used the torch on it, tapped it lightly and it fell right off orz

[hard drift]

i will listen to this when i'm done

too busy making dinner

[potent arrow]

The purge valve on my civic died ;-;

[hard drift]

music was good

[dreamy chasm]

I found a keyboard for 60

not wireless

but has the switches I want

[sly elk]

sweet

I wonder if people still do mac theming lol

http://store.interacto.net/flavours/latest?page=1&page_size=100 It used to be a .. admittedly niche thing back in the 2000s

[hard drift]

@deep sapphire https://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/masters-of-the-universe-netflix-he-man-cast/ it's the end of times 😔

[dreamy chasm]

Wait, how hard is that to replace

[modest moss]

what's wrong with that?

also you don't get an opinion on he-man, zoomer

it's MY childhood, not yours

[hard drift]

why, we own the discs 😭 same with the original thundercats

used to watch them all the time when young since we didn't have real tv because of dads job

so we used cds

[modest moss]

what did your dad do that you couldn't have a tv?

[hard drift]

we had AFN

[modest moss]

no idea what that is

[hard drift]

which was reruns after reruns after reruns

armed forces network

[modest moss]

ah

[hard drift]

i believe

american forces network*

i knew it was something lol

but yeah it was just awful lol

[modest moss]

anyway it might be fine

[hard drift]

maybe, we'll see

[modest moss]

he's in a thing with jesse from breaking bad that I've never heard of, the path

wonder if it's any good

[hard drift]

i liked the originals more than the new ones they made, so i don't have faith in it

[modest moss]

about a religious cult it looks like

[sly elk]

https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-just-issued-a-recall-for-a-hilariously-unexpect-1848442866

[deep sapphire]

Haha

[deep sapphire]

.

bidori

have you ever played

1080 snowboarding

game will change your life dude

[hard drift]

😔 in a bad way

[odd sand]

My guess is either the LCD was installed upside down, or they have some sort of obscure edge-case where if the vehicle has a rollover crash, it will display the dash info right-side up

[deep sapphire]

wtf does that mean

[odd sand]

So there is a gyro that determines which way is up and it was defective

[hard drift]

i hate sports games lol

[dreamy chasm]

I think they just installed that shit upside down

Let's be real here

Those workers don't get paid enough to give a shit lol

[deep sapphire]

Hyundai/Kia cant make an engine that doesnt blow up on you while driving so not surprised

[dreamy chasm]

It blows itself up so you can't speed and crash

It's a safety feature!

[deep sapphire]

starts on fire too so you have some heat while you're stranded

[dreamy chasm]

[deep sapphire]

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/national-international/us-regulators-award-hyundai-kia-whistleblower-24m-in-engine-recall-case/3040624/#:~:text=The U.S. safety agency opened,to stall or catch fire.

3 million vehicles

and they tried to cover it up

I dunno if this is worse than the GM ignition switch cover up or not

both are pretty bad

[umbral moss]

I bet it's a fucked software setting

like the thing where you can mirror flip your desktop in windows and piss off your coworkers

[sly elk]

afaik that's basically it

they use resistors to make it show the other way around

they use the same screen mounted upside down in some cars

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS2_91nRTUY

[sly elk]

I dunno

while I hate the tablet cluster

I appreciate that they don't have a tablet console screen

[umbral moss]

I hate that nobody uses real gauges anymore

there's nothing wrong with the stepper motor gauges 😔

[sly elk]

OH MY GOSH IS THAT AN IPAD ON THE DASH?! WOW SO LUXURIOUS!

oh you mean like when the battery is low and you try to start and the guages go backwards and stuff? XD

[umbral moss]

🤔

never seen that happen

[sly elk]

oo this one

2025: Audi introduces the capactive touch gas pedal

the capacitive touch headlight controls are a nice touch

[dreamy chasm]

Capacitive touch steering weel

[deep sapphire]

that interior looks ridiculous

[sly elk]

yes it doesn't move, you just swipe which way you want to go

[deep sapphire]

there is too much going on here

is this a fuckin plane

[dreamy chasm]

2030: brakes activate based on sensors in the seat calculating levels of butt clench

[sly elk]

there was the flip side

[glossy timber]

Hank

Ford

:)

[sly elk]

back in the 2000s there was a lexus that you know how a lot of cars have a glovebox dropdown cubby on the driver's side?

well on that lexus, it was a panel with more buttons

[glossy timber]

Wait I forgot the amd I only half triggered bank

[dreamy chasm]

I'd just want my glove box back

[sly elk]

aha, found it

[glossy timber]

Had anyone actually put gloves in a glovebox smh

[deep sapphire]

NO

[dreamy chasm]

That's where I keep my trail mix

[sly elk]

man who designed this dash board

[glossy timber]

Hank I'm gonna send you a picture of a ford every day for a week this year

[sly elk]

it's like a whale with wood panels

[deep sapphire]

im blocking you

[glossy timber]

What if it's a Mustang

[dreamy chasm]

muwustang

foword

[glossy timber]

Mustard

[sly elk]

let's try that again.

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/vintage-cars-gif-8171896

[sly elk]

kinda reminds me of a fx35 but not really

[deep sapphire]

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/middlefinger-middlefingersong-manavgeetgill-manavgeetgillsinger-punjabiswag-gif-22781192

[sly elk]

i wonder if we could go back in time and tell someone in 1995 that you could be able to buy a mustang SUV in the future

what they'd say lol

[modest moss]

I say we just spam random fords

[glossy timber]

Probably

Why

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/fordflex-ford-will-ferrell-wine-gif-13109778

[modest moss]

we should ask Eanae to rename this channel to #technology-discussion-and-fords

[sly elk]

the headliner in that one is making me laugh

[hard drift]

please no 😭

[sly elk]

"A SEDAN TO EXPRESS YOUR DRIVING AMBITION. FORD TEMPO."

[deep sapphire]

ford tractors are actually cool

[modest moss]

Hank can't entirely crush his inner country

[sly elk]

the driving ambition of people who bought a brand new ford tempo

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/car-smoke-speeding-through-driving-ride-gif-17388484

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

[modest moss]

fishing, tractors, cousins

[deep sapphire]

https://bigiron.blob.core.windows.net/public/items/e4fddd65db5d492d8a6e2ef8861254ee/ford7710mfwdtractor_ca246bb1595242069bc922f883e7bac5.jpg

[glossy timber]

Hank has a cousin?

Bet they drive a ford

[deep sapphire]

he drives an Audi

[modest moss]

bet they make out in the back of a ford

[glossy timber]

Audeez nuts

[sly elk]

wow this interior

it's not pretty but I kinda love it

for one it's green

so green

then there's the square gauges

and the wood everywhere hahaha

[modest moss]

pretty cool tbh

[sly elk]

i wouldn't mind seeing green make a come back

ooooooo

this is even more ugly and even more comfy looking lol

the parts I don't like are how that extra pillowtop seat thing doesn't come all the way to the end, and also that there's no head support

how are you supposed to be comfy without head support o_O

unless the seat back is really that high and you're just laying back against it haha

[modest moss]

Hank and his cousin would have a great time in that back seat

[hard drift]

[umbral moss]

[fathom cradle]

just upgraded from i7-4790k to 12700k feels good 😄

[desert nova]

Help. I purchased Crysta, it already deducted on my card but it hasn't appeared into my account yet. Does it take time?

[odd sand]

Congrats. 4790K still holds up pretty decently, but yeah that's probably like an 80-100% IPC gain

I went from a 3770K to 9900K and I think the IPC gain was like 75-85%

[eager sandal]

please don't tell me ill be getting more trials like these in the future (stb cap trial)

my poor frame rate

actualy is there a way to mitigate this

[paper tusk]

80 and 90 title drop trials are a bit of the fireworks show but nothing frame rate wise like raid/alliance content

ruby ex is a bit of a clusterfuck in phase 2 visually

[eager sandal]

just hope it wouldn't be super bad, i have everything on low already and 720p

[potent arrow]

I get so jarred seeing none ultrawide gameplay lmfao

[eager sandal]

heard once you go ultrawide you cant go back

[potent arrow]

I will never give up mine

[eager sandal]

oh that is

wide

[potent arrow]

Alotta screen space

[eager sandal]

i want more ram

been living with 4gb and below that ever since i lived

[potent arrow]

yikes

[eager sandal]

on a side note, where can i find if my laptop can handle dx12

all it has are these things

[deep sapphire]

It supports it, will you see any benefits from it? No

That’s a very very low end system

[eager sandal]

ah, just wanted to see if it could run rise

[potent arrow]

it wont

[odd sand]

Still using 4gb!? Dear god, how.

You should really buy another 4gb stick or replace the 4gb with at least an 8gb if possible.

[eager sandal]

tried talking it over with my mum and she's pretty stingy with not letting me get it, so i'll have to wait till i can work or make my own money to get em

[odd sand]

I'm kinda surprised you run much of anything on 4gb since the OS these days takes at least half that

I dunno what you have in there already, but pricing wise...

[dull garnet]

8 would be a big improvement

[dreamy chasm]

8 would be the baseline I'd go for if you can afford it

[odd sand]

It depends on if their laptop only has the one DIMM slot, or if they still have an open one

If they have an open one? Just buy the 4gb and call it a day. (Match the speeds at least) But if it's only the one slot, then yeah swap it out for 8gb

[dreamy chasm]

How much do 8 gb dimms go for?

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah I'd

go for the 8gb dimm if you can convince your mother

but

4gb would still be a fairly major upgrade

OS alone already takes 2-3 gigs of RAM minimum

[odd sand]

Go beg to shovel a driveway for someone or babysit for a night

[dreamy chasm]

Offer to not beg to eat out for a while

[silent vessel]

Is this a good place to ask what's the best site to attempt to build a pc from scratch?

[blazing summit]

which country are you in?

[silent vessel]

Na

[blazing summit]

I heard any local micro centers are decent with getting parts together but other than micro center and newegg, i'm not too familiar for where to seek for computer components

in NA

[silent vessel]

It's my 1st time building one so I'm not too sure about the whole thing lol. I'll check mirco center thanks

[blazing summit]

best of luck on the build !

[dreamy chasm]

If you need help w part selection

I could probably give some advice

[hard drift]

if you are physically going to microcenter asking them is a good idea, they should know what they're talking about most of the time

[dreamy chasm]

^

[modest moss]

read your mail ffs

[silent vessel]

I mean any advice would be appreciated tbh lol

[modest moss]

drop some basic info like what's your budget, what you want to play and at what resolution, do you have any existing parts you can reuse, do you need a monitor

[silent vessel]

My budget is probably around 1k us, I would need everything but extra stuff like monitor, MnK would be separate from that budget tbh. Game wise, games like minecraft, destiny 2, obviously want to get into FF14 at whatever is considered decent pc resolution and fps

[modest moss]

@dreamy chasm @hard drift get busy

[hard drift]

why me

[dreamy chasm]

1k usd for those games should be doable

Though, you'd probably have to go with deactivated windows for a while if you want to squeeze out as much as you can

Unless you already have a license you can transfer over

[hard drift]

or you buy a windows key 3rd party

[dreamy chasm]

Buy a retail key and not an oem one if you're going that route

[modest moss]

getting a gpu is yet again going to be the hard part

[dreamy chasm]

yuup.

[modest moss]

yet again I'm going to end up saying might be worth just buying a prebuilt

[dreamy chasm]

^

If you can find one from a non shit OEM

[modest moss]

looking at newegg up to 1k and they suck tbh

if you can push the budget to $1100 you can get a 3060 prebuilt which should be great for almost everything at 1080p though

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali529-master/p/N82E16883360134R

[dreamy chasm]

Oh

Turns out I was wrong about h610 @hard drift

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/rzss61/h610_memory_channel_confusion/

H610 still has dual channel

But

You're limited to 2 dimms

chipset only supports 1 dimm per channel, but you still have two

[hard drift]

their spec page is so confusing lol

[dreamy chasm]

It is

[modest moss]

unpopular opinion but if I only had $1k I'd probably buy a laptop

[dreamy chasm]

That's also an option if they're willing to put up w/ a gaming laptop

[modest moss]

i7, 3060, $999 after rebate; https://www.newegg.com/core-black-msi-gf-series-gf65-thin-10ue-092-gaming-entertainment/p/N82E16834155717

[hard drift]

shue... that's only 8gb

[modest moss]

so?

[dreamy chasm]

30-40 bucks for an 8 gb dimm to slam inside there

[hard drift]

spend the extra for the 16 😭

[modest moss]

there's literally a 16gb version for 1049 after rebate

[dreamy chasm]

How much is a 5600h and/or an i5 with the same gpu?

[blazing summit]

or just get an 8gb model for like 2/3 of the value of a 16 and buy a kit to put in yourself, saves yourself a lot

[modest moss]

same price due to the rebate

[hard drift]

nah it's like 50 dollars more for the 16gb not even 2/3

[blazing summit]

over here it is

[modest moss]

the difference is minimal

[blazing summit]

i'm in the uk

[dreamy chasm]

They're in the US

so

[blazing summit]

yea

[dreamy chasm]

We're helping them w/ US resources

[hard drift]

[dreamy chasm]

50 bucks extra for an extra 8 gigs isnt the worst thing

[blazing summit]

ah right, arent electronics and pc stuff cheaper in the states?

[modest moss]

I'm in the UK, looking at US newegg, because I read what they need :P

[dreamy chasm]

one issue i have with laptop makers these days is that they put shit dimms in these for cost cutting sometimes

[hard drift]

we don't have a VAT

[blazing summit]

[modest moss]

not strictly true, you have sales tax on some stuff

[blazing summit]

probs going to get this when i get my next paycheck

[hard drift]

yeah but generally it's 10x cheaper than vat

[blazing summit]

cant be bothered waiting anymore for any new stuff, just going with whats currently absurdly good

[hard drift]

do you atleast have space for it

[modest moss]

you need that extra cash when you get sick innit

[blazing summit]

I will once i move stuff around my room

but just buying and make sure i have it so i can do lighthouse cable management

[hard drift]

went to look and couldn't find any close to that price somehow

[modest moss]

Bidori how likely that this person can get a 3050 from a microcenter?

[dreamy chasm]

Barring the GPU, this is what you're looking at if you're insistent on a PC

[hard drift]

0% chance

[blazing summit]

[modest moss]

I guess they could build a nice 5600g box and add gpu later

[hard drift]

nvidia stuff is usually out of stock for the new stuff and the 3050 is rumored to be very limited stock/shipment wise

[dreamy chasm]

I'd look into a 1660 for the stuff they want to do

[modest moss]

they seem to have lost interest anyway

[hard drift]

oh you chose a different cpu than i did otherwise about the same

[dreamy chasm]

@silent vessel

[hard drift]

i did 12400f

[dreamy chasm]

its a 70 dollar diff

up to them

[hard drift]

yeah

[dreamy chasm]

I just went w the 12100 bc it'd give you some more headroom to buy a better gpu

[hard drift]

yeah especially in this market 😔

plus it comes with a really shitty igpu

[potent arrow]

Maps

[modest moss]

triggered

[hard drift]

where is the 12400

[dreamy chasm]

12100f's not bad by any means

this was before their 12400 review

[hard drift]

you'd hate to see my new characters then have like 30 unread the second i create them

ah

[dreamy chasm]

f1 2021

[hard drift]

[dreamy chasm]

you realistically arent going to get these numbers on a 500 dollar gpu in this market

lol

[hard drift]

yeah lol

[dreamy chasm]

anyways

[hard drift]

jesus that 1660 price

[dreamy chasm]

welcome to 2022

You might find a better deal in the used market

[modest moss]

yeah I'd buy a 3060 prebuilt over that

[dreamy chasm]

A 6600 is better value over the 1660s if you can find it for under 500

But yeah

You might be able to find a decent prebuilt w a 3060 for around the same cost

The cheapest 3060 systems I can find are in the 1200 dollar range though

[silent vessel]

With starting out with pre-built, am I able to interchange peices and hardware and such?

[dreamy chasm]

It depends on the prebuilt, really

[hard drift]

most of the time yes

some can be wonky on hardware though

[dreamy chasm]

I'd go for the sys integrators that hobble together parts instead of big name manufacturers like dell or hp

[modest moss]

I linked an $1100 3060 prebuilt earlier

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali529-master/p/N82E16883360134R

might be better available with shopping around

[dreamy chasm]

That's probably the cheapest 3060 system you can find that isn't unreasonably specced

[modest moss]

open box but it's sold by newegg so should be ok

[dreamy chasm]

Issue is the fact it's over budget

A system with a 2060's fine for the games they want to play

[modest moss]

yeah but they get a mouse and kb included that they could use for a while, they said m/kb was an additional expense they could afford

[latent grotto]

Depends more on who the prebuilt is from

If its dell or hp or something like that pretty good chance something is gonna be proprietary

[dreamy chasm]

I suppose

Yeah

That's why we're recommending ABS stuff

I probably wouldnt be too miffed to get this in a bundle

[modest moss]

Levant not reading the chat

[latent grotto]

is it time for me to tell them to install an aio

[dreamy chasm]

stop

hi sarah uwu

[potent arrow]

I would

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah but you're stinky and spend 500 bucks on your clackies

[hard drift]

[modest moss]

rekt

[potent arrow]

They ain't wrong

[dreamy chasm]

I wonder if abs has any 12th gen intel stuff

nope

not a huge dealbreaker though

[latent grotto]

Imagine reading

[modest moss]

cheapest i5 12th gen prebuilt on newegg is ibuypower, $1629

[latent grotto]

Check this out on @Newegg: ABS Gladiator Gaming PC - Windows 10 Home - Intel i7 12700KF - GeForce RTX 3070 - G.Skill TridentZ RGB 16GB DDR4 3200 MHz - 1TB Intel M.2 NVMe SSD https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali590/p/N82E16883360225?Item=N82E16883360225&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-225-_-01292022

[dreamy chasm]

Yeahh, way too much

[latent grotto]

[dreamy chasm]

they have a 1000 dollar budget levant

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali524-master/p/N82E16883360129R?Description=2060&cm_re=2060-_-83-360-129R-_-Product

[modest moss]

that's the cheapest of any 12th gen i5 on there tbh

[latent grotto]

Wow copying the link does dumb stuff

[dreamy chasm]

This one's open box, 11400f with a 2060

[silent vessel]

Thank you yall for looking into stuff for me

[dreamy chasm]

Should be more than enough for ff/minecraft

no worries

[modest moss]

I'd pay the extra for a 3060

[hard drift]

you could even see if microcenter has some good prebuilts available

[latent grotto]

You just asked if there was a 12th gen intel

[dreamy chasm]

Up to them to decide if the perf diff is worth 200 bucks

[modest moss]

read the chat Levant

[latent grotto]

No u

[modest moss]

context is key my guy

[potent arrow]

Y'all suck

[dreamy chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C-RoDtqdJ8&t

[dreamy chasm]

Bet?

[modest moss]

suck on deez

[hard drift]

what'd i do

[potent arrow]

Buy a laptop with no gpu, watch hentai and call me mommy

[potent arrow]

Amd

[silent vessel]

Toxic, the last one you put I didn't see in the description is it a 64 bit?

[latent grotto]

Mommy

[hard drift]

wtf

[dreamy chasm]

64 bit?

wdym

[modest moss]

@potent arrow what did I do?

[latent grotto]

I assume any current windows system runs win10 64 bit...

[silent vessel]

Nvm I'm dumb

[dreamy chasm]

Oh, no worries

[hard drift]

it happens that's why you're asking here

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah, any prebuilt w windows installed will have 64bit windows installed

[potent arrow]

U didn't make me dinner

[hard drift]

[latent grotto]

[modest moss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaFd8ucHLuo

[latent grotto]

Although doesnt your gf make you dinner

[modest moss]

maybe I'm her gf now

[potent arrow]

It's 10:11 am

Idk where tf she is and I doubht she'll make me food today

[potent arrow]

Wtf is this

[modest moss]

it's a message to you

abcdefu

[dreamy chasm]

asfsaudhfui

I'm 1 level away from 80

[modest moss]

get in that queue

[dreamy chasm]

After I grab a coffee

[modest moss]

praetorium time

[dreamy chasm]

Oh

One disclaimer of open box newegg stuff is that they dont guarantee accessories lol

so m/kb isnt guaranteed with the 3060 system if they get the open box deal

[silent vessel]

I was wandering what that meant when both said that

[dreamy chasm]

Yeaah.

It's basically just a fresh return that's tested by newegg

https://kb.newegg.com/knowledge-base/product-disclaimers/

Open Box Product Open Box merchandise are products that have been purchased and delivered to other customers, and then returned to Newegg. Open Box products are sold considerably under cost. Newegg tests Open Box products for basic functionality only. Due to the varying quality of products returned to Newegg, Newegg makes every attempt to supply the original accessories for Open Box products. However, regardless of what the product description says, Newegg only guarantees that you will receive the product itself, accessories may or may not be included. Bear in mind that your open box product may not contain cables, adaptors, manuals, CDs, drivers, fans, etc. Additionally, the product may exhibit cosmetic imperfections as a result of its having been previously opened. Newegg will not send you any missing accessory, even if the accessory is required in order to properly make use of all the product’s advertised functions. While Newegg does not like to discourage sales, please purchase open box products only if you know how to deal with potential missing accessories.

There is a return period of 30 days if the PC ends up being nonfunctional after you get it, thankfully

[silent vessel]

What's the shipping like with Newegg?

[dreamy chasm]

I unfortunately don't have any experience with it on a firsthand basis, apart from recieving a single ssd that arrived just fine

Someone in here might, though

@potent arrow Mind if I bother u for a min

[hard drift]

shipping is fine with newegg, usually comes early for packages atleast from my experience

[potent arrow]

[dreamy chasm]

[potent arrow]

[dreamy chasm]

understandable

[potent arrow]

I havnt gotten out of bed....

[dreamy chasm]

i like this shop already

[hard drift]

👀 nice

[dreamy chasm]

I hope it arrives in one piece

my fingers are literally aching

[hard drift]

let me know how the build quality is 👀

[dreamy chasm]

Sure

its 60 bucks so im not expecting an amazing board but

[hard drift]

already seeing boards that pique my interest

[dreamy chasm]

As long as it doesnt feel like I paid for mcdonalds plastic im good

[hard drift]

yeah

atleast the keys are pbt or atleast most of them look to be

[somber solar]

I have friends that own akko boards and are quite happy with them.

[dreamy chasm]

Ah

Good to know

Main reason why I considered them is mostly the switches

[hard drift]

never heard of them till cyan posted it

[dreamy chasm]

I heard they're one of the better budget linears stock, I think?

[hard drift]

i like that they have hotswap options

[dreamy chasm]

Hotswap's a plus, yeah

I know how to solder but

I'd rather not

[hard drift]

yeah

[dreamy chasm]

It's a PITA to open a board just to find out you've broken some of the retention clips

And then find out you accidentally burned a pad because the lead free solder is a pain to suction off

so you spend the time scratching out a trace to jump a wire to it...

[potent arrow]

My keeb uses akko purp

[dreamy chasm]

o

I bought the pinks