technology-discussion

[hazy frost]

Their PSUs are the best thing they made anyway

And technically none of those are theirs anyway

Besides a few newer ones

[glad dove]

yeah, i wish availability wasnt so terrible for the 5090s, cause i really wanted the astral, but only thing i could get my hands on was the FE

94c is steamy

[hazy frost]

all 5090s run hot out the box but u can knock it down like 10c by just limiting the power

and it has the same performance

if u have it at 70-80% power limit it makes it actually usable

people are using it in SFF builds like that

[glad dove]

do you have an article or something i can read with instructions on how to do that?

[hazy frost]

just install msi afterburner and set power limit in that

u can also increase clock speeds more with it to negate any performance loss there would be while still reducing temps

[glad dove]

oki let me investigate thanks

i saw one article about a dude removing one of the 4x 4pin power connectors to the gpu which limited it to 450w instead of 600w which supposedly worked

that is a bit more frightening than a software throttle lol

[hazy frost]

4090 and 5090 both launched with just no real efficiency in mind lol

u could limit the 4090 for same performance too

[glad dove]

ok ill try running at 87% power with +200mhz core according to some random reddit person

[hazy frost]

somewghere between 80 and 70 is probably max u can go with +200-300 core i think

[dull garnet]

Optimum covered this a bit

https://youtu.be/8PDYJI0W6Gk?si=dMjclifP8bVcAq0P 6:45 onward

75% power limit

[hazy frost]

Oh yeah that case is great tho as well

I like his content now being more realistic to consumers than just the specs and benchmarks from other reviewers

[dull garnet]

Yeah he's the only tech channel I'll occasionally watch right now

[hazy frost]

LTT used to kind of be like that but they’ve gotten more annoying recently as well

A bit more out of touch

[dull garnet]

I feel like they've been that way for years lol

[hazy frost]

Optimums monitor reviews are just down to earth and the stuff u actually need to know rather than all the specs as well

[dull garnet]

LOOK WHAT I BOUGHT LOL

[wraith agate]

It's because they have to push out like dozen episodes a day

[hazy frost]

I noticed it in some of the educational content recently they’re basically giving bad advice on purpose to exaggerate the theme or the video sometimes

[dull garnet]

They don't have to, that's their strategy

[hazy frost]

Which just rubbed me the wrong way

[wraith agate]

LTT grew too big

[dull garnet]

Mans making me want an oled

[hazy frost]

I think a majority of the people actually on screen at LTT are super out of touch on hardware rn tho

There’s a few that aren’t but not on the main channel usually

[wraith agate]

Well easy to say that, but if they don't they'll end up in red

[hazy frost]

I bought one, it had issues, I sent it back and haven’t gotten another one

I miss it

[dull garnet]

Particularly enjoyed all the videos pertaining to linus' tech mansion

[hazy frost]

Idk who I’d watch that isn’t a bit like that anymore

Optimum is fine

[wraith agate]

Oh yeah... because having your employees working on your house and filming it for profit is such a neat idea

[hazy frost]

Hardware unboxed is like GNs hardware reviews without Steve being pretentious

But not particularly entertaining obviously

The hardware Canucks channel is pretty good tbh

[wraith agate]

Tbh I gave up on tech review channels, I'm bored and retain none of the information

[hazy frost]

There’s been an influx of people who actually know basically nothing making short form content especially in an ‘educational’ format

[wraith agate]

Now however whenever Technology Connections upload a video, well I need to watch that. Why yes, I always wanted to hear about space heaters.

[hazy frost]

lol

I like to know what’s being released for consumers mostly idc about anything else

[wraith agate]

Well if I really wanna know about something I just come in here and ask the locals

[hazy frost]

Well someone has to keep up anyway then

I’m doing my part

I find it interesting but more so when it’s smth I can actually obtain myself as well

[odd sand]

TC is like a Wiki Walk in a way lol

[shadow oracle]

GALAX HOF not palit

I had one of those

great cards but you really need to put them under at least water

overclocked like nothing else

also finance bros are so fucking dumb

[dull garnet]

Oh yes my bad

[shadow oracle]

AMD stops AI earning forecasts
Everyone in the industry knows they cant keep enough stock
Finance bros freak out cos they think AMD cant compete

[dull garnet]

I remember when they released cards under the galaxy brand

[shadow oracle]

mhm

HOF was by far the best cards you could buy on the market

Even K|NGP|N cards didnt hold a candle next to it

[devout nexus]

yeah deepseek was only a week ago and they expect it to reflect in AMD financials instantly.

cuda is not a moat anymore but it is more efficient

so it becomes a function of cost vs IOs

[odd sand]

Deepseek uses regular raster cores instead of CUDA/NPUs or w/e?

[devout nexus]

i groked it last night since its low level language it can run on any gpu. but cuda code is the most efficient.

[sly elk]

I mean it's not intel or nvidia so NOBODY CARES

that said, i think the timing between amd's ryzen x3ds becoming actually good and intel rebranding their CPUs was most unfortunate LOL

I almost never hear about people doing "core ultra" builds

[hazy frost]

They had a launch so bad even diehard Intel fanboys struggled to find a reason to recommend or buy them lmao

I think rebranding for Intel is stupid when the only reason people are buying their CPUs is for the name atp bc anyone who knows about the performance in detail didn’t want them since 12th gen

[sly elk]

name and also tradition, i think

kinda seeing the same thing with nvidia and the 50 series i think

there's a lot of "I bought a 10,20,30,40 at launch so of course I bought a 50 at launch"

[hazy frost]

I’m trying not to say anything when I’m seeing 20 people posting their 5080 excitedly claiming they got it for like ‘only’ $1200-1400

[sly elk]

NEW BUILD TIME. 5090 and a core ultra 295k and overpriced asus motherboard

[hazy frost]

People who bought the 5080 are insane to me

[sly elk]

shit what are they charging for a maximus hero now, $700?

[hazy frost]

You’re paying $300 more for… what?

It’s a 4080 super super

[sly elk]

nuh the people who are insane are the ones who buy a 5090 just because

like

[hazy frost]

Idk atl they’re actually getting extra performance

5080 people just spending more money on the same gpu as last year

[sly elk]

that they're going to use like 3 times LOL

[hazy frost]

I saw someone sell their 4090 for a 5080

[sly elk]

that would be a downgrade wouldn't it?

[hazy frost]

Yes but the people buying a 50 series card on release do not check in enough detail

They just see Nvidias claims and buy one

[sly elk]

i don't even think it's that

it's "I want the latest and best"

[hazy frost]

5070 is faster than 4090 so surely 5080 is 500000% faster

[odd sand]

I mean, if they got it for 1600 and were able to sell it for 2000 and get the 5080 for 1600 and didn't feel they were fully using the 4090, it could make sense.

[hazy frost]

Ehh even if u do that might as well get the 4080 and u made $1000 back

Even if u could get 2k for it

[sly elk]

or get a 7900xtx anmd get more back ahhaha

[hazy frost]

True

[sly elk]

but then

no RTX !

-compuiter asplode-

[hazy frost]

But if ur used to some of the Nvidia features and use them it might suck

I’d miss ray reconstruction and DLAA now u can force DLSS in more games too

[odd sand]

No RTX, but the raster perf of the XTX is way better than more expensive AMD cards, so you wouldn't even need it

[hazy frost]

If ur only using raster that is true

Half the games I play I use RT in now tbh

Ray reconstruction with the new model seems to have been overlooked as well that’s a huge improvement if u use RT in games with it

super resolution and frame gen and reflex could probably overlook tho

[dire viper]

@potent arrow

[odd sand]

Well.. I was thinking of needing DLSS or not for decent FPS. I guess if you really did want raytracing then yeah

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/sBKkDily6bo?si=MT2Q8lEZx3gBzZrs

[lost python]

there is just something about this high-pitched transmission sound that i really like

[dire viper]

Straight cut dog boxes

Similar to what’s in a garbage truck

Funnily enough

Straight cut gears don’t like to explode as much as helical boxes

Helical synchromeshes can explode like nobodies business

Sarah’s drift car was running a dog box

My cars transmission likes to whine

Even with adequate fluid and nothing wrong with it

Only whines in 1st and 2nd

[odd sand]

Just realized I've had my keyboard for my main PC for like 12 years now, damn.

Ducky Shine3 released summer 2013

And the paint was flaking off the keys within a few months and some of the LEDs were shitting out too. I probably should have RMA'd or returned it but I'm lazy.

After like 5 years a solid third of all the LEDs were burned out. Now it's about half lol

Maybe it's time for a new keyboard finally.

[wild wyvern]

@real edge the seller said the gpu is trade in by customers

not used for mining

[odd sand]

As far as upgrading now or not: I have a 3080 10gb but still on 1080p so I'm not in a hurry. I figure with 60 series I'll upgrade and get either a 1440p or 4K monitor at the same time

[real edge]

neat

[wild wyvern]

but almost the same price as an new rtx 4060

[real edge]

6700xt is better than the rtx 4060

does the 6700xt seller have reviews about themselves on their profile?

[wild wyvern]

they sell 30 seires and more

but yeah does have good reviews

but the price is like an new gpu

[real edge]

270$ for a used 6700xt in a SEA country seems good to me but

I wouldn't know too much

[wild wyvern]

it really depends lol

[real edge]

like, to me, in theory, it seems good

[wild wyvern]

for me the price is like an new gpu after all xD

[real edge]

6700xt is a big step up from the gpus you were considering before

for not that much of a markup

if that 270$ one is under consideration

[wild wyvern]

its the same price as the 4060 mind you xD

[real edge]

4060 is shit

[wild wyvern]

also electric bill

[real edge]

I have a powerful pc

and my PC

barely makes a difference on the bill

I wouldn't worry about it too much

[wild wyvern]

well

i think if u put used it has to be cheaper not expensive

[real edge]

huh?

if new 6600 costs like 900-1000myr

then 6700xt costing 1200myr is reasonable

[dull garnet]

Let them buy a 4060, it makes no difference to your life

[wild wyvern]

im just asking tbh

and

its not like im gonna play on 1440p or something

[sharp star]

Some of you are deathly allergic to 4060s even when someone says that it’s pretty much the only option available

[real edge]

slappy did say that a used 6700xt and a new 4060 costed the same

I am just trying to guide him to a better purchase

[void plover]

Is a 4060 good

Like what gpu should I upgrade to if I’m on a 1660 super and only need a mid level card

[wild wyvern]

the 6700xt is an trade in so i dont know how the condition is

[real edge]

budget?

[real edge]

if the seller is close you can go to them and look at it yourself I think if your country is a safe place

[real edge]

what I consider a mid level card is the 4070Super

4060 is entry level at best'

[wild wyvern]

ah i dont hink the seller has an physical store

[real edge]

hm

u can ask them to send you a picture of the physical card

if u want to be sure

[wild wyvern]

there is

but its 40 mins drive xD

[void plover]

Well I already have pc I’m just thinking of upgrading parts

So maybe 200 - 300 range for a gpu

[wild wyvern]

there is an pysical store

[real edge]

is it close to you?

[real edge]

country?

[wild wyvern]

40 mins drive

[real edge]

hm

if its an actual store

id go there in person to see what ur getting

if its trade-in then it means its open box

so the store owner will probably let u see the card yourself

[void plover]

US

[real edge]

its a long drive but

I think it may reassure you

can also ask him to bench it for you but I doubt the store owner will go through the hassle

but it does not hurt to ask

[real edge]

that budget is tough for a gpu nowdays but since you're in the US

u might be able to explore the used market

for a...6700xt

or a used 7700xt or used 7600xt or sth

explore the used market for those 3 cards

and tell me prices

[void plover]

Their all like 250 to 300

But tbh I don’t think I’m in need of a new computer

[wild wyvern]

whats ur specs?

i still have my toaster i5 4440 with rx 580

[real edge]

didnt u say u were in the market for a new gpu?

[void plover]

It’s some i5 with a 1660 super

[wild wyvern]

oh

[golden stream]

i5 of which gen though

[wild wyvern]

my gpu loses out to yours xD

[golden stream]

like if DDR4 platform, eh should be fine

[golden stream]

yours is on par, no less

[wild wyvern]

oh is it?

[golden stream]

ye

my PC card is 1660 OC, still fine but I do want upgrade for LLM AI stuff

[wild wyvern]

my gpu doesnt have driver update anymore xD

[void plover]

i5 10400

[golden stream]

OH LOL still just fine

just as far as not in max

[void plover]

Problem is this is a dell prebuilt

Which means the power supply is probably some proprietary nonsense

[void plover]

Yea im thinking about playing monster hunter on pc if I could

[real edge]

then ull need to upgrade that 1660s

[void plover]

Does monster hunter need 32 gigs or is 16 still fine

[real edge]

of ram?

check the min requirements

[void plover]

Yea mb

Looks like 16 is the rec

[real edge]

👍

[void plover]

I’m gonna have to check out the power supply

[void plover]

Looks like it’s 360 watts

[hazy frost]

Ur gonna want a new one of those then lol

1660s is the limit of what ur running with that

[void plover]

And ofc it’s some proprietary nonsense

[hazy frost]

It’s a 360w maximum and likely not good quality in a prebuilt and ur pc is using around 200 already at most

Good news is decent 550/650w psus are actually not particularly expensive atm

[void plover]

Well I’m pretty sure I can’t actually replace this with a regular power supply

[hazy frost]

Depends if it’s one with the proprietary motherboard with it

I don’t think all of them do in more recent years

[void plover]

Looking at it

It’s definitely not a regular form factor 💔

[hazy frost]

Rip

[void plover]

https://www.amazon.com/3080-7080-Power-Supply-L360EBM-00/dp/B09KCLQ3W6

[hazy frost]

The case can probably be made to fit a standard one but motherboard will probably use proprietary connectors then

Which means u still can’t replace it without a new motherboard as well

[void plover]

How much watts would I need for a 4060/6700xt

[hazy frost]

4060 might work with what u have but it’s not rly close in performance to the 6700xt

6700xt probably a 450+ but if ur buying a new one id get atl a 550w one

[void plover]

I’ve been out of the gpu game for a minute

[hazy frost]

4060 is closer to the 6650xt or rx7600

6700xt is nearer a 4060ti

The 7600/4060 are probably the only upgrades u can get with the current psu

[void plover]

I see

I mean I don’t really play triple A games like that I’d really only want something for MH I think

[hazy frost]

If ur thinking of playing the new monster hunter game it’ll be an upgrade but still just about 60fps at medium settings in 1080p

The game just runs horribly from what’s seen so far

[void plover]

Decisions decisions

That too

Benchmark really sucks too

There’s no fighting in it smh

[hazy frost]

For high settings 1080p 60fps u need atl the 6700xt/4060ti it seems

[hazy frost]

Yeah it’s already bad in the benchmark let alone gameplay lmao

4060/7600 are dipping into low 50s in the benchmark iirc

1080p medium no upscaling

[void plover]

Both those cards have the fancy upscaling doodads right

[hazy frost]

The game seems pretty cpu intensive as well tho so that could also be an issue for u

[hazy frost]

Yeah

Actually looking at some videos the 3060 with performance DLSS is getting <60fps at medium

The 4060 is only a bit faster than that

If ur ok with playing on low settings it’ll run though

[void plover]

There’s always the choice to play on ps5 aswell

Lord knows how the other areas run too

[hazy frost]

Honestly probably a lot better than what u could do with ur current pc

And a lot cheaper lol

[void plover]

Yea pretty much

[hazy frost]

Otherwise it’s quite the expensive upgrade for a cpu and gpu that are good enough for the latest unoptimised triple A game

[void plover]

Yea I’m nit interested in really dealing with tech support day 1 tbh

[hazy frost]

PS5 will run probably as well as what u could get for about $400-500 for upgrades

The only concern is the game is cpu intensive and the ps5 cpu is mostly what’s stopping it performing in some games recently

[wild wyvern]

well

ps5 is running an apu isnt it?

[hazy frost]

I mean yes but the cpu equivalent is old ass AMD architecture now it’s not great by modern standards

The gpu is standing the test of time a lot better bc the console upscaling is also pretty good

[compact pine]

Anyone try with a 3000 series yet.? I haven't tried the benchmark but if it's cpu heavy I should be ok but my wee 3070ti struggles with new releases

[lost python]

there were a few people in #1131497851617288192 and #video-games-general with 3000 series cards.
you will likely be as fine as everyone else is with this game. meaning you will be somewhere in the 40s-50s during actual gameplay

[odd sand]

That's more to do with new games are always optimized like dogshit imho

[dire viper]

I get 70fps AVG in MHWilds on a 5600X and base 3070

It MAY be my CPU being the limit rn

5600X is not particularly fast at all

[lost python]

my 7800x3d + 6900xt gets like 70-80fps average too in the benchmark. but the "gameplay" bit is whats important since the rest is just cutscenes and enclosed little area

[dire viper]

*at 1440p with medium settings and DLSS

[dire viper]

wtf

This feels like another DD2

[lost python]

sure with FSR+framegen i can "boost" it to 150fps average, but it still drops hard during the bit on the map

it is

[dire viper]

I know the engine wasn’t made for a game like Wilds but

Jesus

The RE titles run on literally anything like Doom on id

Maybe we need more id Tech games

[dire viper]

Yea the benchmark shows 50-60 fps with stutters during the sequence with the storm going

And that’s on a Sabrent SSD

With everything else on my PC closed

As clean of a benchmark as I could attempt

[lost python]

its gonna be painful during the big fights

[dire viper]

So my performance in this brand new monster hunter game is similar to the one that came out 2018 on the same hardware

[sharp star]

yes

[dire viper]

😭

The main difference is 95fps average in world with medium high settings but no stutters

So it definitely does run better

But uh

Hmm

[compact pine]

I'll take a solid 60 tbh at this point

[dire viper]

The price to pay for NVIDIA only making stop gap technology

[odd sand]

Same engine and it's not like the graphics for the last one were a slouch so probably not much difference

[dire viper]

Nah World looks like a console game

[sly walrus]

world was mtframework

[subtle monolith]

is it okay to ask about a computer in here? I'm looking to upgrade o.o

[odd sand]

9800X3D and 7900XTX, GO! /s

[dire viper]

Yuh

[subtle monolith]

okki. I have a 1050 right now and as you can imagine trying to play xiv is Not Great. I found this computer for sale and the only thing not listed is they said they upgraded the ram to 32gb gskill trident z pc4

I'm wondering if it's worth the 500$ and upgrade, I guess?

[dire viper]

Wait so how much will you be paying all said and done?

[subtle monolith]

should be 500$usd

[dire viper]

500 USD for the whole PC? I would say that’s a pretty good deal in todays world

[odd sand]

3700X and 2070 Super hmm

I guess the question is: If you had more time to save, would you be willing to put another say, $300 into it?

And what PC do you have now and what case?

[subtle monolith]

what would that be for?

this is my current PC: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PTfYH2

[dire viper]

If you’re only goal is playing XIV and similar games that computer will be fine

[subtle monolith]

she's old but she works

[dire viper]

Like 500 bucks is 500 bucks, not a small amount, but 500 bucks is the price of a new GPU so for a whole PC… good deal

[odd sand]

DDR4-2400? x_X

[subtle monolith]

x.x that's what I'm saying

[dire viper]

Yea. P much anything is a big upgrade lmao

I just built my brother a PC out of parts I had, 2060 Super, 2700X, some good ram

Runs games decently at 1080p

[subtle monolith]

yeah my computer is struggling to run xiv at 30fps, that's why I've been hunting for good deals

[dire viper]

And I think you found one

Good PSU also so usable in future builds if you ever wanna dabble in upgrading it

[odd sand]

The question is whether you drop 500 into that and it's a dead-end, or upgrade parts in the existing case etc.

[subtle monolith]

I can upgrade in the future I suppose. the only heavy game I play is xiv honestly

[dull garnet]

pretty nice motherboard

500 usd seems fair to me

[dire viper]

The upgrade mainly is the mobo, which in a few years, even 7XXX series mobos will be cheap enough and so will the chips themselves

[odd sand]

FF14 is a CPU-bound game, for example. You could buy a 5700X3D for $250 on newegg right now and slap that into the same motherboard

Then $40 for some DDR4-3600:
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-ddr4-3600/p/N82E16820232880

[dull garnet]

or they could just play with some reduced settings

oh i missed their current build, my bad

[odd sand]

There's a strong chance even with keeping the 1050, the FPS with the 5700X3D would be higher than the 3600X +2070super

That would be about $300 overall, then they could save a bit more and buy like a used 3070ti and a 750w psu

Actually, the recommended psu for a 3060ti is 550.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116468548777 Used 3060ti there for 265 then. Would put you a little over your budget, but not much and wouldn't need a new PSU then.

Which, as per this very scientific research, says is more powerful than the 2070super:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/14h5oju/rtx_2070_vs_3060_ti_which_one_is_better/

So after taxes and shipping and such you'd be at like 600, but it would be a much better system IMHO

@subtle monolith My recommendation is keep your existing system (Although may want to add an extra fan or something if the temps are higher, bc the non-Airflow edition of that case was kinda dogged on for the hard front panel that restricted airflow)

https://www.newegg.com/p/274-000M-001Z9 -- 5700X3D CPU $255
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-ddr4-3600/p/N82E16820232880 -- 16gb DDR4-3600 memory $40
https://www.ebay.com/itm/116468548777 -- And a used 3060ti like this. $265 -- If not this specific one, be careful and read the descriptions, because it seems like a lot of these were used for cryptomining (Mostly the Dell and HP marked ones it seems but I'm sure others)

Total after tax+shipping ~$600

It's 100 more than you were hoping to budget, but I guarantee it will be a much better system and last you a lot longer

Just make sure after you install the RAM to go into the BIOS and turn on the "EXPO" settings so it runs at 3600 or it will default to 2400.

I forget the exact reasoning, but 3600 speed is the sweetspot for those type of AMD CPUs and motherboards

Something to do with the interconnect it uses to talk with the various parts of the system.

[kind rune]

i managed to order a card, but im not resting until it says shipped

[dull garnet]

3060 ti are rock solid

[potent arrow]

mines definitely alive

[dull garnet]

hoo boy

[potent arrow]

lmfaooi

no I'm not updating my driver's, it causes it to be no video

it's fucking incredible

[dull garnet]

i can't tell if that's due to zen 2 or the video card dying

or your res

[potent arrow]

yes

all of the abovr

literally all of the above

[dire viper]

Nuclear intervention needed for the state of modern games

[dull garnet]

lol

[potent arrow]

that thing doesn't have a cooler anymore

and it has so much corrosion on it

[dire viper]

If 2077 taught me anything, nuking corporate offices is bad ass

[potent arrow]

it's just there

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/6i82uojziNU?si=1Ei2S4INhyhZ8jfM

[odd sand]

1440p UW with a 3060ti ... that's a choice

My friend just dropped a grand on a 7900XTX after seeing his Wilds benchmark score for his 3080 and 5240x1440 screen

It's literally 2x 1440p so naturally, he takes a huge FPS hit over your standard 2560x1440 screen.

[dull garnet]

my friend just spent £900 for a 9800x3d/mobo/ram to up his wilds score

[kind rune]

i havent seen any monster hunter wilds benchmark runs on the 5080

[void plover]

Remember that the benchmark doesn’t have actual monster fighting

lightning monster that didn’t cause a thunderstorm to start out of nowhere I would like to see that in the benchmark

[sly elk]

ffs https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42953508

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[dull garnet]

he gained 3 fps over his 5900X... that doesn't seem right

[dire viper]

Yup

DD2 moment

[kind rune]

what resolution and gpu

[dull garnet]

4070 Super, 1440

[kind rune]

there should be a difference if he uses upscaling and then becomes cpu bottlenecked which he would have been in some parts of the benchmark

[dire viper]

dw someone will yet again fix a monster hunter game with a patch

Because the hourly ppl can’t do it right

[cold yacht]

yeah good enough

[shadow oracle]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/ryzen-5-7400f-uses-thermal-paste-instead-of-solder-chip-hits-max-temps-at-stock-tdp

[compact pine]

good enuf i guess

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/Dg0_XyXgvjQ?si=j9LiElaJGTCJ0_lP

[odd sand]

My friend said his 3080 10gb in the benchmark was 36fps with DLSS on his 2x 1440p UW setup

So that's why he ordered the 7900XTX

[wraith agate]

I won't lie, that sounds like a skill issue

The 3080 on paper should be able to run way more than that. So I suspect it's a bottleneck

[odd sand]

3080 in a lot of games on my 1080p hits the 8gb vram mark. He's not only on 1440p, but it's an ultrawide, so the resolution is actually equivalent to 2x 1440p monitors.

It's the lack of vram that's probably dragging the fps down as it's forced to swap textures more often

[wraith agate]

Hmm.... that tracks

[lost python]

remember to not pay attention to the benchmarks average fps score at the end, because its meaningless.
look at your FPS during the bit where you ride around the map

[wild wyvern]

@real edgei found another monitor

[real edge]

it seems good at first glance, is it cheaper?

hm oh the link disappeared

is it cheaper than the one waffle provided?

[wild wyvern]

nope

https://brightstarcomp.com/products/asus-vy249hf-r-23-8-fhd-100hz-ips-gaming-monitor?_pos=28&_fid=3437bf536&_ss=c

saw this tho

300ish myr

[real edge]

ehhhh

that is significantly worse

a sec

I cannot even find professional reviews of it

it is significantly cheaper

but also much worse

its mostly a non-gaming display tbh

like it will work

but it won't offer you a significantly better experience outside of the increased resolution

thats what I think

and the colors ofc

since its IPS

[wild wyvern]

https://brightstarcomp.com/products/tecware-prime-f2416if-v2-24-fhd-165hz-ips-gaming-monitor?_pos=1&_fid=212e66666&_ss=c

[real edge]

tecware... never heard of em, ill do a cursory search

[wild wyvern]

my case is from tecware

[real edge]

they seem to be asia-based

I keep getting lazada and shoppee links and asian english stuff

unfortunately I cannot accurately gauge that one

I cannot find ANY reviews of it at all

ohh

I can find some videos on youtube

[real edge]

ohh ohh I just remembered

koorui 24e3

search that

its a decent and cheap gaming display thats mainly asia based

whats the price

[wild wyvern]

almost 1k myr

[real edge]

ohh

oof

:<

its supposed to cost 100 bucks

was it the 24 inch one?

1080p?

[wild wyvern]

ye

@real edge

[real edge]

the problem with the tecware one is that I cannot find any reviews on it really

like

the specs on paper seem alright

but idk how good it will be because I cannot find any good reviews on it

the only way I can think of is to ask the seller the panel manufacturer specifications and name so that we can search the panel itself rather than the monitor but I highly doubt that they are capable of telling you that kind of information

thats the problem with budget asian brands, no reviews

[wild wyvern]

its ips

[real edge]

yes I know

not that, but the actual panel manufacturer

tecware did not make it

thats just their branding on it

a different company makes the actual panels

companies buy them, put their own spin to it

[wild wyvern]

acer one eh

[real edge]

and sell them

thats how the industry works

if we had the name of the panel itself and the manufacturer we'd be able to see what other monitor uses that same panel

and use that as a cross reference to what ud expect from the tecware one

but its way too technical for just a store owner to know

[wild wyvern]

https://www.allithypermarket.com.my/collections/monitors/products/samsung-essential-monitor-s3-s31c-24-27-fhd-75hz-monitor-amd-freesync-ls24c310eaexxs-ls27c310eaexxs?variant=45061842338020

[real edge]

27 inch 1080p is an instant no

[wild wyvern]

theres an 24

[real edge]

is the one waffle provided too expensive?

[hazy frost]

what was wrong with the one i sent before anyway

[real edge]

it seemed good

[hazy frost]

its similar in price

[real edge]

ye

the waffle one was good

[wild wyvern]

sold out smh

[real edge]

the tecware one on paper is alright but

I do not trust it

[hazy frost]

id just wait for the better ones to be back in stock

its not going to be that long

[real edge]

indeed

[wild wyvern]

https://czone.my/czone/vg240y -yh3-1738911053.html

https://czone.my/czone/vg246h1a-1738911053.html

[real edge]

https://czone.my/czone/24m2n3200s-1738909854.html

or the one waffle said if u wait for a restock

philips are not known for their monitors, they barely make any at all

but at least its a brand I recognize and the specs seem good

but I would wait for waffles one personally

cause its reviewed

a lot

so we 10000% know that it will be good

with philips theres a good chance that it will be good

[shadow oracle]

Tbh

It's the same panels anyway

AU optronics PANDA or BOE

Or Samsung and LG maybe

Sharp less common

Also ARL-S refresh got uncancelled? Apparently?

16+32+4 configuration

52 cores in total

[wild wyvern]

@real edge how about the vg240y

[real edge]

can u link it

theres various models

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-VG240Y-bmiix-FREESYNC-Technology/dp/B0B4WZPW3Q?th=1

this?

the 160hz one?

[wild wyvern]

https://czone.my/czone/vg240y -yh3-1738911053.html

Ye

[real edge]

thats 100 hmm

the philips I linked?

[wild wyvern]

100 yes

[real edge]

too pricey?

[wild wyvern]

Abit too pricey

[real edge]

wait for waffles monitor to come back in stock before attempting to compromise

[wild wyvern]

It's also ips

[real edge]

.

ask the store when it will get restocked

[wild wyvern]

@real edge which monitor again?

They only have WhatsApp so

[real edge]

the one waffle mentioned

[real edge]

#technology-discussion message

here

[wild wyvern]

@real edge https://youtu.be/7Xt1yqCG8zI?si=sNl1sGR6go4NdtF8

[real edge]

the 4060 is not worth it for close to 270$

its a 200$ or less card disguised as a 300$ card

[wild wyvern]

well yeah maybe

but no other choices tbh lol

But seeing that DLSS is getting better and better

[real edge]

6700xt

the used one

that ones good

[hazy frost]

are there no rx7600s lol

Same thing as a 4060 but not $300

[hazy frost]

Shouldn’t be relying on DLSS just to get half decent frames anyway

If ur having to rely on DLSS now just for desired minimum performance u have nothing to lean on when games get harder to run and u have to upgrade again

[kind rune]

Just got back from microcenter

There were some people unhappy that they had no 50 series cards

[sharp star]

50 series cards aren’t real

[kind rune]

I got one

[kind rune]

and before anyone says i should have got a 4080 super for a few dollars cheaper... i like frame gen

[dull garnet]

you got a 5090 though, right

[kind rune]

no i got the 5080

[dull garnet]

[kind rune]

i am not paying 2500 dollars for a gpu

[dire viper]

Frame gen that is a stop gap tech that serves no purpose other than to make games look even worse while they’re stuttering due to studios seemingly no longer hiring graphics engineers

[odd sand]

UE5 is kinda hard to optimize on top of that imho

To say nothing of proprietary engines various companies have

[dire viper]

Yea it’s a complex issue that I don’t know anything about but I think in this situation it’s ok to assume that it’s the fault of software and hardware providers as well as the dead lines these major games have

Like how tf you supposed to optimize a game when you barely get done with development months before launch

[kind rune]

Completely incorrect

Lets you get a high refresh rate experience in games that aren't normally able to run at that framerate

You get 60-70 fps and then use frame gen to hit your monitors refresh rate and have fun

[odd sand]

Yep, there's definitely blame to go around. As with most things, there is no single point of blame.

[dull garnet]

Nvidia

[odd sand]

Nvidia is to blame for greedy game company execs? heh

[dire viper]

Yuh

[dire viper]

They themselves are the greedy execs so shrug

I feel the investigation with them will not be in their favor

They’ve certainly chose to chase explosive growth over remaining sustainable

One huge drop, genuinely huge drop, in value and they’ll probably be hit by their larger investors

Both the US and China have anti trust investigations into NVIDIA currently

[snow cypress]

What's a good upgrade from a Ryzen 7 5800x? And a motherboard to pair with it

[kind rune]

9700x 7800x3d 9800x3d all good upgrades

id recommend getting a bundle from microcenter

[hazy frost]

Yet u paid 20% more for a 4080 rebranded

[hazy frost]

And nah he’s right

Frame gen is just making up for not selling good hardware and making fake and worse frames to replace it bc greed

Its not the future it’s just an excuse to sell crap GPUs to morons who believe stuff like ‘5070 is a 4090’

Easy to not care when like 80% of revenue is outside of GeForce anyway

[snow cypress]

no microcenter close to me unfortunately, gonna have to go amazon or newegg
think i might go for the 9700x, just gotta find a motherboard for it now

[kind rune]

The 4080 doesn't even sell for msrp anymore so I didn't, and it's faster than the 4080 while having better features

[hazy frost]

I wouldn’t get the 9700x it’s just a more expensive 7700x

[kind rune]

No he's not right

[hazy frost]

It uses less power

[hazy frost]

I mean he is you e just fallen for the marketing scheme they sell u which is exactly their plan lol

And that’s why this works

[kind rune]

The marketing scheme? You can try frame generation on any gpu with fsr 3

[hazy frost]

Bc people think fake frames good and not Nvidia is scamming u by selling fake low quality frames out of unwillingness to give up good hardware

[kind rune]

If my eyes like it, there's no marketing scheme... tf are you talking about

oh its a marketing scheme everything ur seeing is fake you fell for the trap card

[hazy frost]

and the 4080 had frame gen too

[kind rune]

It had 2x frame gen and like I said, it's not even being sold right now

So why would I care about the 4080

[hazy frost]

I’m just saying ur falling for their marketing if ur shilling frame gen in this way

That’s what lets them not make any good GPUs rn

Bc they can just slap software feature on and tell everyone it’s a better gpu

For even more money than last year now

[kind rune]

Because I like frame gen?

Why would I care, if it's something that I like?

[hazy frost]

I mean ur ignoring the point on purpose

I cba to discuss it

[kind rune]

The whole point is I'm buying something that I want to use

So ur point that it's fake doesn't matter

[hazy frost]

That’s not what I responded to

U saying frame gen isn’t stop gap is what I’m responding to

And the fact u don’t think it is just shows how Nvidias marketing works on people

[kind rune]

Amd has frame generation too don't they

[hazy frost]

Yes but they don’t have 0 innovation besides software features every year

And they use it as part of a selling feature not the entire reason to buy a gpu

[kind rune]

And they're not even making any high end cards while also marketing their new improved upscaling which doesn't work on their highest end card

It's not like they're doing anything better

[hazy frost]

Nvidia sold most of their 40 series below the 4090 based on frame gen being the future etc

[snow cypress]

what motherboard would you recommend ?

[hazy frost]

They’re selling actually good hardware at a lower price meaning u don’t have to rely on AI gimmicks

I’d call that better rn

[hazy frost]

If ur just gaming id get the 7600/x anyway and for motherboard idk what country it is to recommend

There’s a few good ones

[kind rune]

Don't have to rely on AI gimmicks? They perform worse than the cards you're critiquing with no upscaling

[hazy frost]

?

lol

[snow cypress]

im also recording 1080p youtube vids through obs

[hazy frost]

The 7900xtx was faster than the 4080 and the 9070xt has potential to be better

And at every given price point below that too the AMD ones were faster

[kind rune]

I'm not talking about the 4080 I'm talking about the 5080 and 5090, they don't make 4080s anymore

[hazy frost]

The only gpu that doesn’t go with this is the 4090 and 5090

[hazy frost]

The 5080 is just a 4080 super lol

So same thing

It’s 5% faster big difference

[kind rune]

You think the 7900 xtx is beating the 5080?

5%? Now we're changing the numbers?

[hazy frost]

They’re equal lol

[odd sand]

In raster? Probably.

[hazy frost]

Xtx is faster in a few titles

And has the extra 8GB of vram still

[odd sand]

Even if they're simply equal: The XTX is $600 cheaper

[hazy frost]

And it costs $300-500 less depending on model

And even more rn bc of lack of supply

Nvidia is providing nothing good at all rn

Just more and more AI gimmicks to sell bad GPUs

[odd sand]

You can get the XTX atm for under $1000 USD. My friend just bought an OC version for $935

The non-OC ones can be had for under $900

[kind rune]

The cheapest 7900xtx on newegg is 930 right now

[odd sand]

Which theoretically you could just OC yourself

[hazy frost]

So 100s cheaper than the 5080 if u can even find one

Yes

[kind rune]

And with it you get garbage fsr, horrible ray tracing, and not much else

[hazy frost]

Horrible ray tracing and it’s as good as the 4070ti

Over exaggeration much

[dire viper]

DLSS is much more aggressive and makes things look worse Ngl

[hazy frost]

DLSS on the new model is a lot better than FSR is tbh

[dire viper]

Yea I figure

[hazy frost]

U shouldn’t have to use either on a 4080/7900xtx tho

Unless it’s 4K

[kind rune]

https://youtu.be/rvveQdbLf6E?t=1451 that looks pretty bad to me

[dire viper]

I’m stuck on a 3070 tho and in CP2077 I use AMD sampling cause it looks cleaner for 5 less fps at 1440p

DLSS has weird ass ghosting

[kind rune]

And that's 1080p with quality fsr

[hazy frost]

Path tracing at 60 fps seems bad to u

lol

[kind rune]

That is not 60 fps

At 1080p too...

[hazy frost]

U picked the worst game for the 7900xtx as well

[hazy frost]

The new one has less ghosting in most games and less weird stuff going on

The only Nvidia only feature I’ve been rly impressed with is RR and I can’t see that as a reason to buy most GPUs rn

If Nvidia wasn’t charging obscene money and have no availability would be easier to see the appeal

I bought a 40 series card bc the 7900xt/x prices sucked on launch

How the turns table

[paper tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD6hqxwkDkw

mostly a press release

[odd sand]

When no GPU even really stresses PCIe5 yet

[dire viper]

im sure its more for information transfer?

yummy data

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, those are networking setup cards.

[dire viper]

I wonder if there is money in local server stuff

cause we have some small server companies here but nothing too big

[cerulean talon]

?

I suppose the question is what do you mean local server stuff. xD

[dire viper]

as in server building companies

[cerulean talon]

Not really, SM/Dell/etc do most of it for anyone large, and smaller companies will likely take a dell or hand build.

If you wanted to go that route, you'd really be going MSP.

[dire viper]

there is one company local, they sell hardware and do setup stuff

the only place I saw selling 40 series cards on launch locally and they had... a fuck ton of 4080's and 4090's

[dire viper]

what is MSP?

oh is that like maintenance

[cerulean talon]

Managed service provider.

[dire viper]

oh ok

[cerulean talon]

Essentlaly, outsourced IT.

[dire viper]

What Sarah did

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, it's a pretty normal step for people in the IT world.

[dire viper]

that sounds kinda meh

but also, someone has to do it

[cerulean talon]

They're usually in service of small-medium businsses, and it's usually pretty tame stuff, but yes, someone kinda has to these days.

[dire viper]

the dealer group I work for has one IT person for 3 dealers

takes like two weeks to get him in my department to fix shit

so I end up having to fix it myself

for some reason our printer likes to nuke itself off the network

it can have a full cartridge and it tells every PC connected to it that it has low ink so it wont print 😭

I think it has to do with the fact we use a DMS so it has to talk to the DMS and also the local PC's

[remote crescent]

What is the latest DLSS/FSR implementation ffxiv supports?

[remote crescent]

If RT is a deal breaker for you you'd be better off getting a 4070s or a 4080s if you're willing to spend a bit extra. Not sure what those cards are worth though during these trying times.

[potent arrow]

errrr

[dire viper]

104C

What

[paper tusk]

I want to say dlss 3.6, probably bare bones implementation upscaling. you have to coax it into accepting newer dll versions or different presets

[wild wyvern]

Ofc not even one here

[wild wyvern]

But yeah the pin

[real edge]

what about it?

[wild wyvern]

@real edge i only have 8 pin connector

So 6pin + 8 pin is a no no for me

[real edge]

16 pin connectors are only for 4070+ series and 50 series rtx cards

[wild wyvern]

6700xt uses it too

[real edge]

what

no

yes the 6700xt uses a 1x6 + 1x8 but

most psus have that....I would hope? lol

[potent arrow]

they do, they arnt talking about hi power or w/e nvdia calls it

[real edge]

aha

[potent arrow]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's like...a SEA thing

[real edge]

1x6 + 1x8 I thought was very common

[potent arrow]

weird cheap PSU

[wild wyvern]

Its an corsair cv 650

[potent arrow]

...how does that not have it

oh it does

it's just the shitty kind

so it'll be more susceptible to power spikes and instability

[real edge]

2 PCIe 6+2 is what this says

are you sure that you only have 1?

website says that it should have 2

[potent arrow]

it has it

I looked into it

just like the picture

wether it's a smart idea or not to use it...I have my own opinions

[real edge]

I have a 4080 strapped to a 750HXi thats fairly old, like 6-7 yrs, unless the CV is horrible quality, it should be ok, the 6700xt is not that demanding of a GPU unless he overclocks it I think

650watts should be enough headroom

[potent arrow]

that's not the problem nhadala

[real edge]

(personal opinion)

[potent arrow]

it's not the wattage

it's the pig tail

and the CV line is the bottom of the barrel Corsair lmao

comparing the HXI line and the CV line is insane

[real edge]

is the difference in quality that massive?

didnt mean to mislead

I do remember paying quite a lot for this psu 6-7yrs ago

[potent arrow]

yeah it's

a fairly big gap

[real edge]

thinking it would support at least 10yrs worth of systems if I paid extra

then I found out that most PSUs are supposed to die around the 6yr mark

and I cried a little inside so to say

[potent arrow]

they can last a while

nothing really has been that demanding until like...

40 series I would hazard to say

or high end 30 series

[real edge]

4080 is fairly power efficient thankfully

and the 5800x3d as well

[potent arrow]

that's really when shit started to draw a 90 degree upward spike in power kinda meme and we started have transient power spike discussions

[real edge]

the 30 series power spikes sure were something else

I memed a bit about how I could not slot in a 3080 because of its insane power spikes

but I can slot in a 4080

I did buy a corsair 16pin to 2x8 pin cable ofc otherwise it wouldn't fit lol

maybe the good quality cable helps as well idk

[potent arrow]

eh it's more the caps and power stuff

anyways my instinct is to not put a 6700xt on that PSU lol

[real edge]

sadge

the 6700xt is the first good deal he had in quite a while lol

other option is a 4060 at the same price as the 6700xt

which is....yeah

[potent arrow]

...can he not get another psu

[real edge]

limited budget

his monitor is still 768p to give u an idea

and a rx 580 and some old haswell cpu

4440 I believe

thats like, the pc I had 10 years ago

[shadow oracle]

ehhh its fine

I've done some really dodge shit

at one point I had an unrated thermaltake running a HEDT PC lmfao

no the CV is not good but its passable

[potent arrow]

I mean I do dodgy shit but I don't recommend them to my clients lol

[shadow oracle]

fair lmao

but if thats all he has itll work tbh

[potent arrow]

hence, personal opinion line

idk piggy back PCIe cable and it being CV line? ehhhhhhh

[shadow oracle]

its fine

the cables are running off the same rail anyway

like its better to run two cables

[potent arrow]

I'm not arguing just pointing it out

[shadow oracle]

but when you only have a single 12V rail everything is going through the same caps regardless of one or two cables

[odd sand]

I had a quad rail PSU I got in 2008 and ran for 10 years. Why is single rail so preferred these days?

[real edge]

psus want to be monogamous nowdays /s

[potent arrow]

you can draw more over one then over four

iirc

[shadow oracle]

It's not preferred

Single rail is cheaper cos you don't need to duplicate any components

High end PSUs are still multi-rail but cheaper stuff is all single rail

[odd sand]

Well from what I've seen it's hard NOT to find single rail these days, even for high end PSUs

[shadow oracle]

Huh

Last time I really looked into PSUs was like 2022 so uhh

[potent arrow]

all PSUs are basically single rail now

just due to needing it for the higher powered stuff and OC reasons

that's what the old ass OC switch used to do on some PSUs

make it single instead of multi

it's just the standard now

[shadow oracle]

Oh you're right what

Bleh I don't like it

Like it's fine

But I don't like it haha

[potent arrow]

why, it's purely beneficial

o-ok

[real edge]

is multi-rail safer?

[potent arrow]

not by a margin that matters

[shadow oracle]

Multi-rail puts less stress on each component

[shadow oracle]

Doesn't really matter these days tbh

[potent arrow]

if we are living in 1990s lmao the components we use now are so hardy

[odd sand]

Case in point: Newegg has ~110 single rail PSUs for sale. 15 two rail and 3 four rail.

[sly walrus]

i still don’t trust high amperage

[shadow oracle]

Multi-rail is slightly more sensitive in terms of protections and cut off etc but not to a degree that matters

[potent arrow]

I mean what do I know about power electronics

Totally out of my realm

[shadow oracle]

I'm just a bit more old fashioned

[potent arrow]

Totally...

[odd sand]

But yes, I suppose if you're gonna be running 600W into a GPU, you can't run a quad rail unless you either have like a 1600W PSU, and/or you're running connectors from multiple rails into the GPU

[shadow oracle]

So mostly it's dual rail in the mid to late 2010s

The wattage rating is for the combined dual rails so that's partially where the whole run two cables instead of daisy chain comes from

[potent arrow]

this is just a side effect of everything ramping up in power

[real edge]

I am sad that the psu tier list has not been updated in quite a while https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ idk what other metric to use to judge them tbh

[potent arrow]

and it being relative cheaper to manufacture too

[shadow oracle]

All I will say is don't take that as gospel

I know Luke savenjie and he doesn't actually have any qualifications

He was 16 when he started that

It's a decent list but it puts too much stress on getting a great psu

I will also say he has also done a ton of research into it so

[odd sand]

LTT Labs has reports on a number of them. Rather dry info, but can be informative

[shadow oracle]

Anyway uh the problem I have with that list is that it's entirely theoretical

[odd sand]

It doesn't try to rank them, it only determines if they're decent or not

[shadow oracle]

Or at least most of it

They don't actually test the PSUs

They judge it based off of the topology and design

[real edge]

ud have to be rich to buy all of those and test them lol so it makes sense

[shadow oracle]

Oh yeah but like that's why I say don't take it as gospel lol

[shadow oracle]

Honestly I just find reviews and look at ripple suppression and how in spec it is lol

[odd sand]

GN have done a few PSU test videos, but I think mostly in the wake of a few of those units catching fire like two years ago

[real edge]

I think I have the 2013 HXi model

[shadow oracle]

If it works I wouldn't bother

Touching it

[real edge]

never had any problems so far

[potent arrow]

HXi is literally as good as it gets kinda meme, so you'll be fine

untill like the 60 series shows up and requires a nuclear plant

[odd sand]

I had some 700W from 2008 that was quad rail and some weird offbrand callled Tagan. 50% of them failed early apparently, but I must have had a good one bc it went 10 years before I popped some caps and had to retire it

[potent arrow]

that's gonna be fine

[potent arrow]

lucky

[shadow oracle]

I'm gonna be honest ive never actually had a PSU die on me

[potent arrow]

you won the lottery into that or it could as a rebranded higher end lol

[shadow oracle]

I've had doa ones but never one that just popped

[odd sand]

One novel thing is it had a LED in the fan and different colored LED rings around all of the cable connectors into the base of the unit

[shadow oracle]

Didn't thermaltake make a similar unit

[odd sand]

In 2008?

[shadow oracle]

Not in 2008 I don't think

[wild wyvern]

@shadow oracle i had an unnamed psu die on me xD

[shadow oracle]

Ok no wtf is that LMAO

[odd sand]

Company went out of business in like 2010-11 I think

[real edge]

are there any modern PSUs that are the same kind of "as good as it gets"?

or have companies cheapened out

im not looking to buy

just curious

[potent arrow]

uh

me I buy I bequiet

[odd sand]

Superflower, Silverstone, and Seasonic all make top of the line models. You'll pay like $150-200 but they're very good

[potent arrow]

Just buy their top of the line and laugh

[wild wyvern]

@potent arrow why is the 6700xt not worth it for the cv 650

[potent arrow]

seasonkc and Silverstone yeah

[shadow oracle]

Corsair still makes some of those

Superflower I believe have some very good plat units

[sharp star]

I have a rebadged Seasonic from Asus but I'll consider upgrading if I do upgrade my GPU as well

[potent arrow]

I write off Corsair a lot now

[sharp star]

Same

[shadow oracle]

Why?

[potent arrow]

just from all the failures I've had with clients lmao

[shadow oracle]

Great wall is a great OEM

Hmm

[potent arrow]

just no luck

[shadow oracle]

I believe SF Plat are some of the best straight up

[potent arrow]

idk their kinda shit now for one reason or the other

had a red label just take three workstations in my career and was like nah

[real edge]

it will run on your PSU, it has the cables for it, but its ""passable"" instead of like, 100% all is good, if that makes sense

[odd sand]

Yeah that's the thing with most of the peripheral brands like Corsair, Asus, EVGA etc. they have their own branded PSUs, but most or all of them come from those 3 brands: Superflower, Seasonic, or Silverstone.

[wild wyvern]

Ahhh

@real edge then not the 6700xt then?

[shadow oracle]

*Great Wall and uhhh one more Chinese company

[potent arrow]

big badge rebrand, but it's still curious why some SKUs are so vastly different in quality lmao

[shadow oracle]

I believe some of the corsair PSUs are actually their own design

[odd sand]

Hey, it was pretty baller for 2008. Barely anything had lighting back then lol. Handful of things maybe had 1 blue led in the fan, that's it.

[potent arrow]

that's peak shinon

that's what it is

my friends PSU is this hirric 800w Roswell POS that has a fucking neon bulb in it

[real edge]

I do think that you should risk it because every other option is shit tier, unless you find a cheap 6600xt, 6650xt or rx7600/7600xt

[shadow oracle]

Like I think great wall does the manufacturing but basically RM series and above are their own design

Also the only sff PSU out there are like

[potent arrow]

from like 2005 and half of his cables are reterminated PCIE

[shadow oracle]

Great wall lmao

[potent arrow]

so it's the ugliest

firehazard

you've ever seen

but also dope

[odd sand]

Because they don't go with 1 company, they go with 3-4 of them depending on what they can get for production timetables and hitting the pricepoints they want. Which is also why it's hit or miss if they're good or shit. Bc they can ask say, Seasonic to take one of theirs and chop $20 off the bill of materials, and something in there ends up being important

[shadow oracle]

Oh and also QA lmao

Sometimes a company won't bother doing good QA

The thing with outsourcing ODM/OEM is you need to do the final QA

Oh I lied

[wild wyvern]

@potent arrow do i risk it?

[shadow oracle]

Corsair manufacturers with CWT not GW

[shadow oracle]

Just do it

The corsair sf series are gw tho

[potent arrow]

personally, I wouldn't but like I said opinion

[odd sand]

Ok imma go pass out. Night all

[shadow oracle]

Gn

[potent arrow]

gn shinon

[real edge]

https://www.bestprice.gr/item/2159161167/seasonic-vertex-px-1000w-trofodotiko-ypologisth-atx-atx-30-80-plus-platinum.html?qo=seasonic+px&from=cat something like this for example would be a modern HXi replacement if my psu died tomorrow for some reason

[shadow oracle]

Sure, or a superflower leadex whatever they're up to

The leadex titanium was the best at one point but it might be eol

[sly elk]

and circular connectors instead of the god awful molex

i would love it if at least the higher end parts standardized on a connector that wasn't so shitty

[sharp star]

we love the molex centipede in this house

[hazy frost]

Yeah but it doesn’t help Corsair has been changing stuff and renaming their lines over the years making gaps in quality bigger

Even the new CX psus are basically what the CV was

Everything below their RM just is kind of terrible now and even those are just too expensive to buy usually

[sharp star]

I remember when Corsair was the go-to brand

[hazy frost]

The AXi ones are still some of the best of the best ones tho

If u have stupid money to spend on it

[hazy frost]

Seasonic has remained consistent in the lower price ranges

Superflower and be quiet have some good higher end 750-1000w ones

MSI Evga and Corsair have good 1000+ models idk about anyone else

Evga psus had a good reputation but they were just made by superflower anyway

[sharp star]

I have a rebadged Seasonic from Asus, needed one right away

don’t remember why though I’m pretty sure it had to do with a PSU crapping out

[hazy frost]

I have a HXi bc it was too cheap to not buy it

It was like $80 for the 1000w one

And that was when I thought I was going to buy a 4090 eventually before they went up in price lmao

[sly elk]

wow that is amazingly cheap o_O

[paper tusk]

I've had an OCZ one explode (a regulator, not a cap) while I was in a (ffxiv) dungeon

[wild wyvern]

Oooof

[sharp star]

Oh god didn’t OCZ have some… legendary quality control

[thin lantern]

Yikes.. that does not sound good

[glossy ravine]

So uh. I turned on my pc today,

Only have Ryzen Master, Task Manager, and FFXIV open and TM says my CPU usage was at 100% and my temps were in the 80s.

While xiv was running on the title screen.

[potent arrow]

oof

repaste time babbbby

[glossy ravine]

Ive heard thermal pads are a solid alternative from a coworker. Thoughts?

[inland mauve]

were they trying to make a pun there?

[glossy ravine]

Uh, no? They were being serious.

[potent arrow]

get i5 because it's solid

and uh unless you buy the really fancy shit

not really

[inland mauve]

I mean because a thermal pad is literally a solid alternative to thermal paste

[glossy ravine]

Standard thermal paste it is.

Any recommendations?

[potent arrow]

same as usual

thermal grizzly

artix silver if broke

lmao

[glossy ravine]

Apparently the Noctua NT-H2 stuff is really good?

[potent arrow]

pretty same as kryonaught

[dire viper]

Imagine not using that dollar store Corsair thermal paste

[potent arrow]

all of my budget build uses the shit that comes in a fucking margarine container and it's barely a difference

they just dry out faster letting me get more money off service visits a year or so earlier

[glossy ravine]

Kryonaught is a thermal pad...?

[potent arrow]

comes in both

[glossy ravine]

And the pad is good for an air cooler cpu?

[potent arrow]

just use paste

[glossy ravine]

Kk.

This is it, yeah? 8 dollars or so. (There is that typo though

[wraith agate]

oh it comes with a spreading spatula too! /j

[potent arrow]

yep that's it

[potent arrow]

I use these for spreading putty on my plastic kits........

bargain...

[glossy ravine]

I hope 1 gram is enough.

As for cleaning off the old TP, can I just use a paper towel or-?

[potent arrow]

it's more then enough lol

I use wipes

but paper towel is fine

isopropyl and paper towel if you have it

make sure to wipe both the IHS and the cooler

you be surprised how many clients only wipe the IHS

[glossy ravine]

nodnod

Thermal paste ordered.

[kind rune]

this wait is killing me