technology-discussion

[hazy frost]

I’d just buy a second pc for that price tag tbh

But it would be big and louder

And use more power

[sly elk]

well

so they have a nice 4k camera that costs $450, but it comes free if you buy the nvr pro for $500

[hazy frost]

That’s a decent deal then

It’s basically $50

[sly elk]

which makes it an OK deal because if you buy that kinda camera from hikvision/dahua/whatever it's going to be $150-200-ish anyway

[hazy frost]

It’s probably worth like $150 imo

The $500 is insane tho

[sly elk]

yep lol

but at the same time

[hazy frost]

It’s pricing to make u buy the other products too

[sly elk]

even if i didn't consider the camera

$500 for a 7 bay nvr is kinda funny?

like I can see why it uses a little arm and sata and stuff

if they used sas and a proper cpu and ram it'd cost >$1k lol

meh I have high hopes fo rit

in theory this should work as well as nest cameras but without the cloud shit

[hazy frost]

Price product abysmally, sell product with other product ‘free’ to make it look like good deal, profit

That’s basically how everything is sold these days

[sly elk]

yep lol

but unifi cameras are way overpriced

like 2x-3x what you could get a dahua/hikvision/amcrest/reolink for

what tipped me in favor was the newest version of unifi protect can record from those cameras, too. And I haev a bunch of amcrest stuff still

so it softens the blow of switching over a little

[hard drift]

Should just stop making non x3d processors period 😭

[sly elk]

that's how i feel about it lol

or at least come up with a different name for the not-x3d stuff

[hazy frost]

7950x is goated tho

[sly elk]

ya like

[hazy frost]

So is the 7600 and 7500f

The problem is the 7700x and 9000 series mostly

[sly elk]

the hard part here is that some of the CPUs are awesome, just not most optimal for running 1 game on

[hazy frost]

It’s kind of just the same thing as 13-14th gen Intel except

Am5 got more efficient and lga1700 got less efficient

[sly elk]

but they might be great for some kinda other computing tasks

anything's better than 11th gen intel 😄

[hazy frost]

7900x and 7950x are both decent

The 9950x not so much T the current price

[hazy frost]

11th and 13th and 14th..

lol

12th seems to be an anomaly

Of recent times

[sly elk]

lol

13th and 14th did pretty good until they didn't!

https://tenor.com/view/cpu-smoke-amd-toms-hardware-overheat-gif-21739686

the funny thing is

when i bought my 7800x3d ^ I used that gif a lot as a joke 😄

like hahahha look at this idiot not getting a 13900k

WTF HAPPENED INTEL

how did I end up with the reliable cpu this gen lmao

[hazy frost]

13900k was mid even before they had issues

7950x ate it up in most tasks

Or 7800x3d for just gaming

I miss stuff like the 12400f

Or the 12900k tbf it stood a lot better against competition

[dapper nymph]

how tedious is it to replace just the motherboard

[inland mauve]

most other components are plugged into the motherboard directly

it's basically the central nervous system of your PC

so pretty much the most tedious thing to replace

[sly elk]

Yep. But how big a deal that is, is up to you.

and also what are you changing the motherboard in

a regular diy pc? It is indeed the most time consuming part to replace, but not the end of the world. A Dell? Fucking Hell.

https://tenor.com/view/20-twenty-minutes-rick-and-morty-gif-12928450

^ for someone who's done it before lol

[inland mauve]

the advantage of replacing the mobo in a PC you built yourself is that you were the one who put it in in the first place so you know what to watch out for

also good luck replacing anything if you have a recent high end GPU

GPUs have gotten too bloody big

[wise jay]

I want more storage but no fucking way am I taking my 4090 out right now

[inland mauve]

same

I lost a hdd to a dead sector and my mobo has M.2 slots left but they're behind the GPU

and fuck that lol

[wise jay]

its on a vertical mount too so its even worse with how big it is

[inland mauve]

that's going to take me an entire evening

I needed a second person to get the damn thing in properly the first time

[dire viper]

@potent arrow oh btw the Catalina is coming back, a company is going to produce them for private, commercial and military use again

we will have sub hunter catalinas again

THE BLACK CATS WILL RETURN

[sly elk]

thoes look noisy af

[dire viper]

yes

the new ones will have turbo props

so they will be insanely loud

they're making the new ones on the original US factory for the Catalina

[sly elk]

ye when i changed from my 9700k to my 7800x3d, swapping out the cpu and mobo was pretty straight forward. the only thing that took a little time was changing out the bracket on my water cooler.. and even that was pretty straightforward

[sly elk]

wait ... the US ones those antiques?

i figured some third world country did lol

[dire viper]

no

the Catalina was built globally

its a US design

its why its called the Consolidated Catalina

[sly elk]

ohhh

flying boat and amphibious aircraft

[dire viper]

yes

the Black Cats took Catalina's and where there was a 50 cal they changed it to a twin and some of the Black Cats had a 20mm for the rear facing lower gun

[sly elk]

In July 2023 a company called Catalina Aircraft, current holder of the Type Certificates for the Catalina, announced an intent to build the Catalina II, a new aircraft on the basic design principles of the original Catalina but using turboprop engines and other modern aviation tools.[44][45] Deliveries are said to commence by 2029.[44]

[dire viper]

ye

it will basically just be a catalina but modernized

the Catalina is still used around the world

they will probably never not be used

same with the grumman goose

so unique are the needs of a seaplane that the ones from WW2 are still adequate today

https://youtu.be/1UuVuefIBPg?si=1IyYQZvRlMrZ94tJ anyways

[odd sand]

Just got the LTT messenger laptop bag in the mail the other day. I was apprehensive on buying the small one, but it's almost a perfect fit for my Surface studio laptop

[golden stream]

ayyyyyyyy neato

[odd sand]

Laptop is 14.4" screen and fits inside the laptop compartment almost exactly (it was probably their test item for fitting the small, honestly)

My only small gripe at first test is it bulges with the power brick. If I had to daily drive it, I would probably buy a 100W GaN charger instead for a smaller footprint.

But that isn't their fault really.

If you have good battery life or can use it on USB-C power somewhere when you get there, you could comfortably fit a tablet and maybe even a notepad inside. I currently have the tablet on the outside sleeve and that works decently even with the power brick, but it's definitely at capacity without feeling like I'm abusing it.

[golden stream]

I do want to change my power brick to a 100W GaN but then it uses the olde round AC plug
also it's a 150W OEM brick so um

imo it's nice for a common office laptop w C port charger + tablet
saw some peep on reddit saying the bag may bulge quite a bit w some stuff but then diff people diff load

[odd sand]

Dunno how much getting a 150W would help me, as that looks to be the same thickness as the power brick, but probably a size savings for you:

[golden stream]

like I just measured my tote bag yesterday, hell it's 6.6kg instead of 5kg as I thought

[odd sand]

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-GaNPrime-Compact-Foldable/dp/B09W2PNLX7/

[golden stream]

ya it does help, form factor seems to be the same

[odd sand]

Only downside to those gan chargers is you might burn a hole in your bag if you have to stuff it inside on short notice /s

[golden stream]

I mean, fair ye

it really does, but only if I have any device need it, currently couldn't replace the laptop AC brick aaaaaa

[odd sand]

Size comparison between the 737 ganprime and the new "anker prime" gan3 charger

Looks to be 35% smaller, so 35% hotter? heh

Well, I suppose it's 20% less current with multiple devices plugged in. Even the one on the left says it's only 100W max per port

[golden stream]

it should be it ya

actually it ain't that heat up if multi device plugged in but prob depend on load

I have a GaN 65W but only a C port and an A port, it heats up p uhhh if use both port but kinda depend on load

phone is fine, no heat at all but charging my power bank or steam deck, ye defo does heat up

[odd sand]

It's all about the amount of current that has to flow through it.

GPUs needing insane coolers bc of the wattage they draw should have taught you that

If not, The More You Know™

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-26317296

[wraith agate]

I am getting real tired of windows shoving its crap on me

worse is when I turn it off, next update microsoft turns it back on because "what if I changed my mind?"

no I did not

[lost python]

55USD? no

oh its CA

then its alright i guess

[lost python]

i love paying for a 1gbit connection and actually getting about 5% of that because of some outtage

for 4 weeks

[shadow oracle]

50mbps isn't that bad

[lost python]

it is

especially when it keeps fluctuating between 30 and 50

[hazy frost]

50mbps feels awful if you’ve had anything reasonably fast

[shadow oracle]

idk I have 250 now and 50 still feels fine

as long as youre not downloading anything too big

[hazy frost]

I have gbps and anything less than 100 feels bad and under 50 is particularly annoying

[lost python]

im scrolling social media and i keep having to wait several seconds for images to load because they easily reach 20+mb these days lmao

[hazy frost]

Yeah it sucks

Watching YouTube in a decent res is also a pain

[wise musk]

Cod mw3 130gb

https://tenor.com/view/cat-despair-meme-atone-gif-18083281511005463831

Monday they are installing gigabit internet at my house

[shadow oracle]

lmao nice

I can get gigabit but its 300 bucks a month

[wise musk]

That’s nuts

[shadow oracle]

australia moment

[wise musk]

I will pay around 70 euro a month

Or will

Soon

[shadow oracle]

the LNP government fucked up our national broadband badly

cos they looked at it and went "hmm great plan but theres not enough privatisation happening"

[wise musk]

lol, we do have a small monopoly here. Only 3 providers and only 2 don’t suck

Belgium btw

[shadow oracle]

see we have the worst of both worlds

because it was meant to be a government owned infrastructure project

all the services belonged to this one organisation called the NBN

and then the LNP came in and went "yeah but what if we ran it like a for profit business"

[deep sapphire]

you guys literally live on a giant island with nothing around it and only have 2 coastal populations completely opposite of eachother with nothing between them of course its gonna be expensive

you think copper is free or something

[shadow oracle]

so now we have a monopoly on wholesale services by a government department thats run like a private company

[shadow oracle]

what?

[deep sapphire]

thats exactly why its super expensive in canada

its dense population and then nothing

[shadow oracle]

if I didnt know anything about the nbn rollout in australia I would simply shut up but ok

[deep sapphire]

thankfully satelite internet is getting a lot better

[shadow oracle]

because clearly you dont understand how it happened

cos nobody is running fibre to boganville, population 200

intercity connections and fibre backhauls are also by far the cheapest part of this project too lol

mostly because we already had fibre backhauls between the major cities anyway

[wise musk]

F

[dire viper]

Well

Internet shouldn’t be a private thing

I pay 20 bucks a month for fiber because it’s price regulated by my city and is seen as a service rather than a good

[sharp star]

https://x.com/Wario64/status/1839374164945465790

Wario64 (@Wario64) on X

GeForce RTX 5090 to feature 21760 CUDA cores, 32GB GDDR7 memory and 600W, RTX 5080 gets 16GB VRAM/400W (leak specs) https://t.co/BMAJSGOS5N

Twitter · Sep 26, 2024, 6:39 PM

[odd sand]

"Up To" carrying weight like Atlas fr

[dire viper]

My internet has only been down like twice this year

The ISP and line layers are two different entities

Line layer does maintenance regularly and updates stuff

Both times the internet was down they gave us notice

Cause it was maintenance related

Seeing as it’s so good here companies worth tens of billions should be able to figure it out better than a regional isp and a single state based line laying company lmao

[hazy frost]

RTX 5080 gets 16gb of vram lmao

If the 5070/ti has 12GB again that’s insane

[odd sand]

As expected, the 90 is leagues better, probably bc the PCB does double-duty with their AI cards

[deep sapphire]

Holy shit

[hard drift]

time to upgrade again hank

[deep sapphire]

I’m gonna just for WoW

[hard drift]

[drowsy star]

Wonder what it’ll cost

[hard drift]

given amd is no longer doing high end easily 2k

nvidia once again has no competition

[hazy frost]

well they know people paid like 2200-2500 for 4090s anyway

I can already see the 3k 5090 asus models

Intel might have a not terrible gpu one day..

Once again nothing to make me wanna upgrade without buying used lol

[wide hill]

just add more cores, more gibabytes

[shadow oracle]

Game devs need to learn how to use texture streaming if 12gb of vram still isn't enough

It's not the 2010s where SSDs were only for OS drives

[hazy frost]

Or Nvidia need to do what AMD do and give us reasonable amounts of memory

[shadow oracle]

Meh, software devs get away with hardware performance increases too much

I'd rather have better optimised games

[hazy frost]

Texture streaming helps but if u want improved graphics then it’s going to use more memory

[shadow oracle]

Ok but clearly most games that "demand" 16gb of vram really shouldn't need it

[hazy frost]

The games aren’t actually all that bad, the problem is Nvidia giving u 12GB of vram on $800 graphics cards

[hazy frost]

Why not?

[shadow oracle]

Cos they look like shit lol

[hazy frost]

??

Which game looks like shit and uses 16gb of vram lol

If any is like that it’s an exception and not a rule

[hard drift]

@deep sapphire i would just like to say fuck sony lmao

what do you mean it's not a public specification that you disclose

[deep sapphire]

They have horrible support

[hard drift]

this was about their new product too 😭

[shadow oracle]

Oh ffs

Oh for fucks sakes

[real edge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-17761454461347667879

[shadow oracle]

I can't even give the example because the server has that stupid game on the blacklist

But also TLOU before the texture streaming update

[hazy frost]

TLOU doesn’t look like shit tho

And u said in the same sentence it’s not an issue now either way

[shadow oracle]

Because texture streaming was implemented lol

They gave a shit and optimised the game post release

[hazy frost]

And like I said exception not the rule

It’s not on game devs to try and optimise games for hardware that’s been neutered by Nvidia bc they don’t wanna spend $10 more on manufacturing a gpu

[shadow oracle]

?????????

It's not on NVidia to put more vram on their gpu so devs can be lazy when porting games to PC

See how this argument can come back around again?

[hazy frost]

Yeah and that’s not actually the problem?

It’s not for lazy game devs lol

[shadow oracle]

No it is

[deep sapphire]

@modest moss

[hazy frost]

It’s so u can actually run games at higher resolution

[deep sapphire]

Babe here we go

[hard drift]

[hazy frost]

Must u always be insufferable

[hard drift]

it's always chaos

[deep sapphire]

Comedy gold

[hazy frost]

As is most of what u say

[deep sapphire]

I know I am hilarious

[real edge]

[hard drift]

ooooh a bigger boss showed up

[shadow oracle]

Gee it's weird to think how we were able to run games at 4k since 2017 without needing 16gb of vram

Reminder that Plague Tale Requiem only requires 6gb at 4k

[deep sapphire]

Add more ???? That makes it even better

[hazy frost]

Because we want to never innovate and keep games at the same level of graphically fidelity until the end of time

Right..

[shadow oracle]

Yeah uh cos the games that need 16gb of vram are so much more visually stunning

[hazy frost]

2017 was 7 years ago

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-momoa-chair-interested-gif-9751403

[shadow oracle]

Sure, I'm just saying that right now a lot of games seems to use increased processing power as a crutch against poor optimisation

[hazy frost]

It’s whatever i don’t need to argue with someone so obviously wrong

[shadow oracle]

I'm not against adding more VRAM

[deep sapphire]

It’s true modern consoles have made developers lazy as shit

I copy da code woohoo

[hazy frost]

U literally started to blame game devs instead of adding more vram lol

[shadow oracle]

Consoles aren't the problem lol

[deep sapphire]

God ^DAMN*

Hold on

I tossed another bag of popcorn in the microwave

[real edge]

please be adults

[shadow oracle]

Idk I'm trying to have a discussion and this guy is just having a go at me

[deep sapphire]

Technology discussion is the best channel

Shitposting

Arguments

Making fun of AMD

we got everything

[deep sapphire]

DELETE THIS

[shadow oracle]

True and based

[hard drift]

[hazy frost]

AMD just better

[hard drift]

it's okay, you can't delete my things now

[hazy frost]

CPUs don’t explode GPUs don’t skimp on vram every generation

[shadow oracle]

They just skimp on drivers team

Not that NVidia is any better these days

[hazy frost]

Yeah the thing we haven’t had an issue with in multiple years

Intel is the only one with actual gpu driver issues

Or Nvidia on Linux

[deep sapphire]

Well after dealing with their trash ass drivers from the ATI team nvidia drivers have never left my PC hanging

[shadow oracle]

I mean if your understanding of amd comes from 2023 onwards then I suppose you would be right

[hazy frost]

Since 2020

6000 series was fine

[shadow oracle]

Actually most of your takes would make much more sense if you only looked at hardware from 2023 onwards

[deep sapphire]

AMD deserves their reputation and I hope their market share slips even further

[hazy frost]

I just don’t believe in hanging onto ancient information to make decision on current products

Because that’s stupid

[deep sapphire]

No it’s not

Buy once cry once

Not making that same mistake again

[hard drift]

tbf it's not ancient information, the 5000 series sucked so fucking bad driver wise I USED IT AND SUFFERED FROM IT PERSONALLY

[hazy frost]

That was over 4 years ago

[deep sapphire]

If I bought a car from a brand and it was a piece of shit why would I buy from that brand again

[shadow oracle]

I had a radeon 7 and a Vega 56

[hazy frost]

Because unbelievably things can change

[shadow oracle]

Great cards

Awful drivers

Also

Funnily enough

[deep sapphire]

Great, not my problem I’ll go with the product that actually has a track record for working drivers

[hard drift]

and people aren't upgrading super often so it is still relevant

[shadow oracle]

A mate of mine had a radeon 7 which got so hot that it deformed the vapour chamber

[hazy frost]

Yeah the 4 years of no driver issues isn’t a track record my bad

[shadow oracle]

GCN 4.0 moment

I don't know why you're taking any criticisms as somehow me saying that it's unredeemably bad

[deep sapphire]

That’s funny that 3 people in the chat right now are telling you we’ve had problems through multiple products they’ve made and you dismiss it

[hazy frost]

Pay $500 more for a gpu because the other companies one had a driver issue on cards from 6 years ago

[deep sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/109661585093459968/1283188562409291860/bda13423e7335802.gif

[hazy frost]

Yeah… 5+ years ago?

[deep sapphire]

Again it’s my money I’ll buy what I want

[hazy frost]

I’m not going to buy a product based on what sucked and what didn’t 5-10 years ago

[shadow oracle]

Look I don't understand why you're taking it so personally lmao

[hazy frost]

U do that Idgaf what u buy but it doesn’t mean it’s objectively better 😭

[shadow oracle]

Or taking it as if any criticism means it's a piece of unredeemably bad garbage

[hazy frost]

No ones taking it personally except u guys

Really

[shadow oracle]

??????

AHAHAHAHA

[deep sapphire]

Well nvidia has over 90 percent market share so clearly people are voting with their wallets!

[shadow oracle]

Look mate I could not give less of a shit

[hazy frost]

Ok then stop talking..?

If u rly dont care why u here

[shadow oracle]

I'm pretty sure I've gone through more amd GPUs than you have amd products in your whole life

Cos I'm rather enjoying having a discussion lol?

[hazy frost]

Really seems like it

With how much ur complaining

[hard drift]

did you wind up buying one btw?

[real edge]

!mute 702574403803807847 3h

[opal panther]

Success!

@hazy frost has been muted by @real edge for 3 hours!

[deep sapphire]

No

[hard drift]

coward

[shadow oracle]

Shame, X3Ds are actually great cpus

[deep sapphire]

I built my PC before it came out

[hard drift]

doesn't mean you can't still buy one

[shadow oracle]

They solved the latency issue by slapping a huge L3 cache on it

[deep sapphire]

I’m not buying a new board and CPU for a marginal uptick in 4K gaming if at all lmao

I’m sure they are good CPUs but that’s just throwing money away

[hard drift]

you'd probably get a substantial uptick since you play mmos

[deep sapphire]

WoW runs on a single core with spaghetti programming and addons that give you 300000 lua errors nothing is fixing it

[shadow oracle]

May can I interest you in the W3175X? it only pulls 1200W from the wall and only requires a single stage chiller to keep it cool

[deep sapphire]

I raid with a guy that has a 7800X3D and still hates the performance

[hard drift]

does he have a 7800x3d and 4090?

[deep sapphire]

It’s just a terribly optimized game

[hard drift]

😭

[deep sapphire]

He does yeah

[hard drift]

damn

[deep sapphire]

His family is rich he got that 4090 money

[hard drift]

[hard drift]

OH YEAH HANK THE IPHONE 16 PRO MAX BATTERY IS TOO GOOD

i basically never need to charge it

[deep sapphire]

iPhone batteries when they are new always seem to over deliver from my experience

[shadow oracle]

Better or worse than a 3310

[deep sapphire]

But I do need to upgrade my 12 max has like 79 percent battery health LOL

🤣

[hard drift]

your battery is cooked 😭

it won't show that message if the battery is good

[deep sapphire]

I mean in all honesty it seems fine? Like it’s not lasting all day but I can use it for most of it

[odd sand]

I think it's perfectly reasonable to be cautious and want to wait for real world testing and see how driver stability is etc. when they have a history of not being stable and not getting the drivers right for 1-3 years after a product releases.

[hard drift]

yeah, i just wish iphone batteries weren't so expensive otherwise replacing it for the extra performance would be worth it

[odd sand]

Bc even 5 years ago the sentiment was "They're great bang for buck... 18 months after release when all the kinks are worked out and the first price drop has happened"

[deep sapphire]

After my HD 5970 went through 3 RMAs and it still did nothing but BSOD I will never buy Radeon again

I bought a cheap 460 to replace it and what a shocker never locked up again

[shadow oracle]

Was 460 Fermi?

Cos if so, lmfao

[deep sapphire]

Yeah

[odd sand]

Ehh I wouldn't go that far bc tech is finnicky and almost every company has released turds.

[shadow oracle]

Holy shit ahahhaha

I wasn't around for Fermi era but that's hilarious

[odd sand]

eg: IBM was known for having years of rock-solid HDDs until they didn't and released the infamous Deathstars that had 50% failure rate in 6 months

[hard drift]

cooking food on fermi

[shadow oracle]

Frying eggs on the 480

[lost python]

thermi was great

[shadow oracle]

Was that not Seagate

[lost python]

playing bad company 2 and the room was all cozy and warm

[shadow oracle]

ST3000DM001

Or did IBM also do it

[hard drift]

WAIT ROB YOU'RE NO LONGER A MOD EITHER???

[lost python]

i havent been since... almost a year

[hard drift]

i rarely see you and i am rarely here tbf 😭

[odd sand]

The IBM Deskstar 75GXP (six models ranging in capacity from 15 to 75 GB) became infamous circa 2001 for their reportedly high failure rates, which led to the drives being colloquially referred to as "Deathstar". Due to this, the drives were ranked 18th in PC World's "Worst Tech Products of All Time" feature in 2006.

Seagate did indeed have their own period of shoddy HDDs

[deep sapphire]

I had dual GTX 580s the room was an absolute sauna

[lost python]

dw most rarely notice me

[shadow oracle]

Oh right the ones that was then Toshiba and later HGST

[odd sand]

Yep, after the Deathstars IBM literally sold off their entire HDD division to Toshiba lol

Which is still confusing me to this day why they continue releasing enterprise drives under Toshiba, HGST, and I think a 3rd brand

[deep sapphire]

Toshiba notebook drivers from my experience were the worst but they were usually put in the cheapest notebooks and I’m sure customers dropped them and shit lmao

Drives**

[shadow oracle]

To be fair

[deep sapphire]

We were always having to clone them

[shadow oracle]

2.5" HDDs were all fucking dogshit

[deep sapphire]

Yeah remember the IDE ones in the IBM thinkpads

Eugh

Still use this old ass WD black drive I bought in 2008 as a back up

Still works

[potent arrow]

cheap ass wd 2.5

night mare drives

those blue ones that were twice the thickness of the black ons

set them on fire

[deep sapphire]

I’ve always found WD drives in general to be okay but as dark said 2.5 drives in general kinda sucked

[potent arrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1033785083343151197/1099054369506345120/freeze-1.gif

yeah well idk what people thought making slim mechanical drives was. good idea in a very shock heavy environment

[deep sapphire]

In the late 00s most of them had mechanisms that would immediately park the head if any shock was detected how well that worked is debatable

I fixed so many fuckin HP DV6000s

[potent arrow]

member the Hitachi ones in the Toshiba satellites

[deep sapphire]

Junk

Satellites were always on the cheaper end

[potent arrow]

they've always haunted me

that and cheap.WAIO tops

[deep sapphire]

Most people aren’t going out to buy high end laptops so it makes sense

My dad owned a top of the line Sony Vaio laptop in 2004 thing was a beast

Had a desktop northwood P4 in it

[potent arrow]

my compaq was a beast

same as my acer travelmate

[deep sapphire]

Before compaq turned into a shit cheap brand

[potent arrow]

real

they don't exist anymore right

[deep sapphire]

Or gateway

The random ass computer company based out in the middle of nowhere where Iowa

[potent arrow]

Iowa mentioned

[deep sapphire]

Lmao

That’s why they came in boxes with cow spots

[hard drift]

Hank i blame you for my feed being destroyed 😭

[deep sapphire]

You should read up on how micron was founded

[hard drift]

I don’t watch baseball and i don’t watch vtubers

[deep sapphire]

Literally started by a couple of potato farmers on a ranch invested by other farmers

[hard drift]

i wish i was one of those farmers

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/-LyDvy8lVFw?si=xixHY6nSJEWvzEVm

These guys literally would work at micron and then go home to their farm to do farm tasks

[sly elk]

i had fun with that! the powerbook g4s had an accelerometer in them and you could set them up as an input device LMAO

[deep sapphire]

Haha

[sly elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyoFRx_0edU

[deep sapphire]

MagSafe was such a genius idea

[sly walrus]

i remember there was a lightsaber app for your laptop

fun times

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/uqIILtopSTg?si=2nTpXlY1G35pNHKb

This is so random

[odd sand]

The biggest 180 though has to be Dell: They were originally known for requiring a full checklist of fit and finish + benchmark tests before releasing any system to the customer on purchase. Then they decided to sell the cheapest commodity crap imaginable. The only division that didn't succumb to that IMHO was their display division. Although the enterprise laptops are decent enough these days

[deep sapphire]

The old optiplexes from the 2000s were cockroaches I swear they all had blown caps, horrible cooling yet they never fucking died

I’ve worked at some plants that still use those damn things for specialized equipment they never get turned off and just keep trucking along

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/getting-a-dell-gaming-pc-dude-gif-14395733393982085552

[sly elk]

hot take dell was always shit

[sly walrus]

… but why is acheron the thumbnail

[sly elk]

i've taken apart dell 486s before

i'm glad i don't have scars on my hands from the cuts

[deep sapphire]

I dunno who that is

[sly walrus]

ok but where’s the hot take

[deep sapphire]

Dell monitors are great

[sly elk]

just that is's o mean lol

[deep sapphire]

And they typically have industry leading commercial support

[sly elk]

hmm

whatever

I hate dell

mostly because I see them as THE ESTABLISHMENT

[deep sapphire]

Their consumer shit is junk I agree

[sly elk]

no their enterprise shit is also shit

[deep sapphire]

[sly elk]

their poweredges are like 90s GM products though

[deep sapphire]

Beats HP

[sly elk]

they'll run like shit longer than their competitors products will run at all

[odd sand]

ngl I don't have any big complaints about my work laptop. only issue is if I hold it at the corner while walking, the case flexes and can cause it to hard reset. But that could be bc I spilled kraken rum into it like 2 months after I got it

[sly elk]

but

[deep sapphire]

Hahaha

[sly elk]

i bet if you looked at a rack of poweredges

[deep sapphire]

A Chevy will run like shit longer than most vehicles run at all

[sly elk]

at least half of those fuckers probably got flashing orange lights

and probably have for years

[sly walrus]

never forget what we lost

[sly elk]

and it's some dumb shit like

POWER SUPPLY REDUNDANCY COMPROMISED

FAN SPEED ABNORMAL

[sly walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mac-os-it-admin-apple-macintosh-pc-gif-14609060

[sly elk]

(I JUST FUCKING PUT THAT FAN IN 2 WEEKS AGO)

[deep sapphire]

I’m glad they brought back the old boot chime

[sly elk]

but dell laptops are just universally shitty >>

[odd sand]

I had my work laptop in my bag and then a full bottle of kraken rum (going to work the 2nd half of friday from my buddies place) but the cap was defective and when sloshing in my bag it spilled out and leaked into mostly the display side of the laptop. So there is still a discoloration in the screen. Using dark mode you basically can't see it, but it's super obvious on any light background.

[deep sapphire]

Just wasn’t right losing that G3 boot chime

[sly elk]

like i've had

i've had the displeasure of using a lattitude and a precision and an xps

the xps 13 they really went out on those foldy hinges though

[deep sapphire]

The XPS now is built like total shit and they overheat badly

[odd sand]

I have a Lattitude 5520 for work

[sly elk]

the funny thing was the chime never actually went away, they just disabled it by default lmao

[deep sapphire]

Yeah I think I read that

[sly elk]

the macs that didn't come with the chime at launch, got it back after a software update

iirc some of the xserves don't chime though

[sly elk]

but, yea, that chime ... I don't consider a mac that doesn't do it a mac

[sly elk]

i have one fo those compliments of my company's parent company

[sly walrus]

that chime is how you know you’re still alive

[sly elk]

they fucked up their vpn changeover and so I haven't been able to use it in like 3 years

and they still nag me about returning the "underutilized hardware"

[odd sand]

"I would use it if you were capable of operating a modern network"

[modest moss]

Awesome waffle moment

[deep sapphire]

🤣

a quality #technology-discussion moment

[late basalt]

@deep sapphire you see the latest Linux RCE exploit announced today?

It’s a big oof for sure

[deep sapphire]

nope let me check it out

thanks

[late basalt]

https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/26/unauthenticated_rce_bug_linux/

Marked at CVSS 9.9 too

[deep sapphire]

holy shit

[late basalt]

Yea, the lead researcher who found it was apparently originally getting pushback from fedora and Linux foundation about just how bad it really was

[deep sapphire]

thankfully that port isnt really used much aside from maybe local printers

you wouldnt really have that as a front facing port to the outside

[late basalt]

@odd sand i know you’ll find this of interest too

[late basalt]

Shouldnt have it as outward facing

But… we all know it only takes a few brain cells to do something that stupid

But even then, if a malicious actor can get access into the network somehow, it’s pretty fucked

Like, I write software, I get it, I get how someone can be defensive about the stuff they write, I really do. But holy sh, if your software has been running on everything for the last 20 years, you have a freaking responsibility to own and fix your bugs instead of using your energies to explain to the poor bastard that reported them how wrong he is, even tho he's literally giving you PoC after PoC and systematically proving your assumptions about your own software wrong at every comment. This is just insane.

From his twitter thread a few weeks ago

[sly elk]

hmm wouldn't that be a mac problem too, then

[kindred brook]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-and-rtx-5080-specs-leaked

[sly elk]

huzzah the unifi camera stuff arrived. ssds won't arrive until tomorrow though >>

thing weighs a ton! i'm glad i didn't get hard drives for it. on the plus side it's the size of an oldschool 1980s vcr

i was worried it'd be deeper

oh my

https://jalopnik.com/fiat-124-spider-recalled-for-airbags-that-deploy-using-1851658848

also

https://jalopnik.com/you-can-build-a-brand-new-toyota-ae86-with-this-9-500-1851658885

eurobeat intensifies

also I'm relieved to see that while the nvr pro has 2 fans on it, I don't actually hear them!

[deep sapphire]

people are saying the 5090 is just gonna be 2 5080 GPUs on an interposer

if true holy shit

even the 4090 struggles with the latest CPUs, this is just getting ridiculous

(by struggles I mean the CPU cant keep up in anything under 4K)

[kindred brook]

really o.o

damn

[kindred brook]

is this like the 6970 X2 all over again

[sly elk]

hahaha like a 590?

wait was that the 590

[deep sapphire]

those were straight up 2 GPUs on a PCB

the 295 was the funniest one

[sly elk]

yea THAT one

[deep sapphire]

it was 2 graphics cards with an SLI cable connecting them and sandwiched together

[sly elk]

and it looked like a vhs tape

[sly elk]

it' funny how quaint it looks by today's standards

[kindred brook]

what the heck is an interposer

[deep sapphire]

its like a plate that the dies reside on

its much faster for the dies to communicate on it than say a bus

[sly elk]

so 2 gpus on a single chip package eh

[kindred brook]

ohhh so deffinitely not 2 gpus on the pcb lol

[deep sapphire]

I doubt it

[sly elk]

that reminds me of a threadripper

[deep sapphire]

unlike CPUs which are usually kinda restrained with their socket size and cant really push the size barriers

GPUs are fuckin huge

well can be

[sly elk]

@deep sapphire

who doesn't love a threadripper? 😄

[paper tusk]

[deep sapphire]

yeah those things are huge

ive heard rumors that intel might come back to HEDT

[sly elk]

ngl i want one just to have one

[deep sapphire]

but I dont really see the point

if we go back to X58

[sly elk]

fi they can give us 40 pcie lanes again

[deep sapphire]

that was HEDT but it also was the fastest gaming CPUs

[sly elk]

in a $500 cpu

[paper tusk]

please look forward to $2500 for 5090, $1500 for 5080

[sly elk]

dude the x58/x79 stuff was such a deal lol

I mean it wasn't but the low end stuff was like

3820 == i7 3770 but with i think 40 pcie lanes?

[deep sapphire]

the i7 920 was a bargain yeah

it was like 230 dollars

and was a hell of an overclocker

[sly elk]

ok uh

[deep sapphire]

even with a locked multiplier

[sly elk]

ok this bugs me lmao

ubiquiti trying to be apple

this nvr keeps randomly ejecting the empty disk trays lmao

[deep sapphire]

gotta drag it to the trash /s

[modest moss]

I finally yeeted my wife's old i7 920 box the other day

[deep sapphire]

I still remember when the 8800GTX came out

fuckin massive lmao

[deep sapphire]

haha

they were great chips

[sly elk]

it kinda erminds me of the oldschool macs that had motorized floppy disk eject mechanisms

i always thought that was so extra

[deep sapphire]

my 990X bit the dust back in like 2017

[sly elk]

apple was like

[modest moss]

tossed out a bunch of old PCs that were just lying around, my office is so tidy now

[sly elk]

eject button?! no that's too plebian for us

WERERERERRE

[deep sapphire]

yeah the power button on the keyboard

that was like an arrow

[sly elk]

yea lol

so fancy

[deep sapphire]

I did like the whole apple bus system where you had the mouse ports on the keyboard itself

that was pretty clever

[deep sapphire]

correct me if im wrong

but I recall the mouse from the 00s macs

if you squeezed the sides

it acted like a right click or something?

lmao

[sly elk]

nope

hmm maybe the mighty mouse?

[deep sapphire]

I dunno I heard that one of them you could squeeze and it did something

im gonna look this up

[sly elk]

Mighty Mouse’s two other buttons are activated by pressing its Scroll Ball and squeezing its sides

i never had a mighty mouse LOL

i had a couple of pro mouses, in fact I still hav eone laying around

i loved that design though

[deep sapphire]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Mighty_Mouse

The mouse has four functional controls: a left capacitive sensor, a right capacitive sensor, a trackball with a pressure sensor and side squeeze sensors. The track ball enables users to scroll a page or document in any direction, including diagonally. Instead of mechanical buttons, the touch-sensitive topshell (mentioned below) and the pressure-sensing trackball allow the mouse to detect which side is being touched or whether the trackball is being held in.[2][3][4][5]

[sly elk]

but the 'ears' on the pro mouse did nothing, they were just there so you could move the mouse without clicking it

[deep sapphire]

yeah so I wasnt crazy haha

[deep sapphire]

these were cool

[sly elk]

ye that 'squeeze the ears and push the scroll nib' thing sounds awful lmao

i thought they made one before the magic mouse where you could right click by just tapping the right side

seems i was wrong

also there's a far easier way to right click than that...

and it still works

you hold the ctrl button on the keyboard when you left click

i always had a hand on my keyboard anyway so i never really cared about having the right mouse button back in those days

[deep sapphire]

yep

all through K12 we only had macs

but minnesota actually cares about education so the schools were usually well funded so they had all the latest and greatest

the swivel imacs when those came out

they had power mac G4s and 5s

of course who couldnt forget the eMac

god awfully slow

that was kinda a weird era for apple when OSX first came out none of their G3 lineup ran it very well but thats all they had

[sly elk]

haha

i had a friend who had a g3 imac and then their family replaced it with an emac

i think the g4 imac was basically the same computer minus the crt

they were god awful slow, too LOL

single core g4s were slow af in the early os x days

also I can't get over the irony here

the nvr picked up my amcrest cameras happily. the 3 in vegas show up and work perfectly. the 3 here .... are barely showing any video at all lmao

[sly walrus]

as beautiful as this is, i'm glad apple finally figured out how to add a right mouse button

[modest moss]

@deep sapphire I was looking at a Leatherman on Amazon

Included component what now

[dire viper]

huh

[modest moss]

buy multitool, get free cocaine included

[dire viper]

wtf they mean

[modest moss]

🤷‍♂️

[deep sapphire]

hell yeah!

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/-_lE-_Up6XI?si=BE9uN-0zAgONg2aP

cant wait to see these being actually driven

Tuthill usually doesnt sell to the weird collectors and resellers

usually their first batch of cars go to the kind of people who just redline to redline everywhere

Richard Tuthill is a good shop owner as well and only does things he will drive himself

[sly elk]

nice

so my unvr pro came with a fan that makes clunking sounds. can't tell if it's the fan being defective or the controller just wants to spin it below stall speed

i requested an rma and they almost immediately approved it and sent me a packing... slip..........

if they think imma pay to send their like 40lb defective box back

they can eat shit!

also

https://samcurry.net/hacking-kia

[wraith agate]

I thought Watch_Dogs was supposed to be a cautionary tale not the blueprint for the future

[sly elk]

yas i am

in love with unifi protect lol 😄

the recording playback ui is THE SHIT

it's just like the nest camera ui except without the $15/mo fee

[cerulean talon]

It’s super nice

I wish the cameras were a bit more affordable

I need to get a big poe switch and some cameras for the move

;.;

[dire viper]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a45860980/1989-pontiac-grand-prix-turbo-asc-mclaren-bring-a-trailer-auction/

@deep sapphire

The best-known ASC/McLaren program is undoubtedly the Buick GNX. Buick Grand Nationals arrived at the ASC/McLaren shop, and there they received a comprehensive upgrade that resulted in one of the most thoroughly badass machines of the 1980s, basically Darth Vader on basket-weave alloys.

That’s a great way of describing the GNX

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUIh0fOUcrQ

[deep sapphire]

these are pretty rare yeah

they wanted to use the GNX 3800 in the GMC Syclone but Buick wasnt making them anymore

[sly elk]

i'm trying not to do that lol 😄 my setup is deliciously jank

currently suppository udm <-> cheap netgear switch <-> nvr pro over copper ethernet 😄

I mean it's fine

[sharp star]

https://www.techpowerup.com/327057/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-and-9900x3d-to-feature-3d-v-cache-on-both-ccd-chiplets

inch resting

big if true

[hazy frost]

9900x3d especially needed that

Could actually be viable for mixed usage at the pricing they used before

[hard drift]

I wonder what else they’ll do to it because they’re supposedly was some talks of them doing something more major with vcache

[paper tusk]

I'm down for guinea pigging 9900x3d

probably severe overkill but where's the fun in a safe build

(relative to something that I can't afford [9950x3d)

[paper tusk]

since x870 supports cudimm I kinda want to see that more to be honest since ddr5 1:1 memory speed has been kinda hit or miss

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/Fa47pFxxowk?si=catgEqWXCoirKsU1

[royal forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQutUSRgnZ0

600W

https://tenor.com/view/火力電廠-thermal-power-pland-smoke-power-plant-time-lapse-gif-17658071

u gonna run a dedicated PSU for it

[sly elk]

i wonder if the miata still uses oldschool hydraulic steering

or if it uses ephs or something else

[sly elk]

hmmm

what the hell ubiquiti lol

added the doorbell thingy to protect and it doesn't notify my phones when I hit the button 😄

in theory i must be missing a setting somewhere

[lost python]

https://x.com/SteamDB/status/1839946113152893298

SteamDB (@SteamDB) on X

Arch Linux (used for SteamOS) is entering into a direct collaboration with Valve. Valve is providing backing for a build service infrastructure and a secure signing enclave.

Twitter · Sep 28, 2024, 8:31 AM

👀

[glossy ravine]

Why the fuck does chrome use so much ram

I have 5 tabs open

[real edge]

my firefox

[real edge]

how much ram do you have

[glossy ravine]

16 gb of ddr4

I havent hit 100% usage or anything but like

[lost python]

thats just not that much anymore

given all the shit thats on websites these days

[deep sapphire]

Chrome and most other modern browsers will use more memory if it’s available

You don’t really need to worry if you launch a game or something windows will manage the utilization of what needs it most

[real edge]

^

I was playing a game that used a lot of ram while I had 16 gigs

I was at 90-95%

and everything worked fine

windows is shit

but its also smart about some other things

[lost python]

i hope the 5000s wont catch fire this time around but i doubt it

cant wait for the 1999 pricetag

[lost python]

thats kinda shit advice unless you want to watercool it. but eventhen its shit advice because different brands give differently long warranties etc

but it is true that super expensive models are rarely ever worth it

[real edge]

my gigabyte aero was one of the cheaper models

1 tier higher than cheap-ass shit like the ventus models from msi

in price

but much better cooling

like

the cheap models were

1030

and the gaming OC/aero OC were 1100

70 more for a better peace of mind and better cooling

[modest moss]

Unused RAM is wasted RAM

Prefetch my beloved, etc

what stupid parts did you buy ice

but

uh

never mind

you have perfectly good fans and case

https://tenor.com/view/jjvanstiphout-janjoost-stiphout-moneygun-money-gif-20318862

[hazy frost]

If it follows the trend of this gen it won’t be much better but the 9900x3d might be worth buying more

Should be faster now u have both CCDs with the cache unlike the 7900

[hazy frost]

Leaks say the 9950x3s and 9900x3d should do

Unlike the 7000 series

I don’t think the 9950x3d is going to be worth it either way

9900x3d maybe

U might as well get the 7950x3d cheap if that’s what u need

Would be way more than adequate for gaming either way

And probably cost $200 or more less lol

7950x3d is almost $200 under what it was at release rn I think

It retailed for $700 and it’s like $450 now

9950x3d is potentially gonna be the same or more while the 7950x3d gets cheaper

Bc you’ll likely have the same gaming performance with the 9950 or 7950 and a similar performance elsewhere judging by the normal x model

[hazy frost]

I’d hope so

[modest moss]

Ice acting like he cares about money

[hazy frost]

So long as Intel fixed their manufacturing processes for it lol

I’m sure even they know if they do another 13/14th gen people will start to get annoyed and AMD is already taking up more customers from the current issues

One day I’d like to have a mid range cpu that has benefits from overclocking again as well

[modest moss]

the 2500k days are gone I think

[hazy frost]

Probably

12900k was pretty cool but it was expensive

And hot

[modest moss]

I just content myself with turbo and be done with it

[hazy frost]

To be fair I’d rather we had AM5 CPUs where they just come as efficient as they get and u don’t have to OC and test stability for hours

But I’d like the option to anyway

[deep sapphire]

Sandybridge was one of the most legendary processors ever made

I don’t think they will ever have anything that can top its status

The fact you could overclock it to 4.6 GHz and have it still relevant even today is insane

[dire viper]

the good ol days 😔

[hazy frost]

Even more recently things were still better

Up until 9th gen and then 12th gen is cool but started to become unreasonable with how much power it draws anyway

Like I know someone with a 12900k that outperformed most CPUs u could buy still but it was already drawing over 200w stock under load

[deep sapphire]

An overpriced 920

[hazy frost]

Keep the water cooling overclock the 12900k get most of the way to owning a 7800x3d if ur lucky

Minus the performance bonus in games that benefit from large amounts of 3D vcache

[sly elk]

waffle you ever seen his water cooling setup? :3

he could overclock that 12900k to the moon lol

icehunter's rig had a custom loop with 3x120mm radiators

[hazy frost]

I’ve seen but presumably if ur even considering upgrading u don’t overclock

Which I do think is stupid with any custom loop

U can squeeze more than enough out of a 12900k

I’d just wait another year to upgrade lol

[sly elk]

yea i don't disagree

with desktop parts i usually like upgrading every 3-5 years or so lol

[late basalt]

@deep sapphire i'm thinking of replacing the radio unit in my escape with a media receiver, any brand recommendations? I'm seeing nods towards kenwood or jvc so far

[sly elk]

whatever the point is where there's enough new shiny doodads to make me wanna upgradfe

[deep sapphire]

most of the cheap chinese brands on amazon arent worth it but are much cheaper

[sly elk]

off the top of my head i'd recommend a sony

[deep sapphire]

sony, JVC and kenwood are all good brands

so you cant go wrong with any of them

pioneer as well

[sly elk]

also alpine yes? xD

but the alpines and pioneerss can get quite expensive

[late basalt]

yea, i'm seeing anywhere from $200 to $500 with what BB has online for my car

[deep sapphire]

does that include installation

[late basalt]

nah, just the unit itself

[deep sapphire]

check amazon and see if its competitive

[sly elk]

should look at crutchfield to make sure what kinda adaptors nad junk are probably needed

[late basalt]

most do have free installs though iirc

[deep sapphire]

500 for a head unit is kinda tall order

[sly elk]

idk 500 for a decent one with wireless carplay/android auto isn't unheard of

[deep sapphire]

yeah this, most cars follow the same standard but ofc GENERAL MOTORS didnt

[late basalt]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/kenwood-6-8-android-auto-apple-carplay-built-in-bluetooth-in-dash-digital-media-receiver-black/6530839.p?skuId=6530839

[sly elk]

heh how old is the escape?

[late basalt]

'14

[deep sapphire]

is it a double din unit?

[late basalt]

yea

[sly elk]

oh boy

[deep sapphire]

yeah check if it uses the universal standard

[sly elk]

watch out

[late basalt]

i already know i'm spending ~200 on additional hardware to replace

[deep sapphire]

adapters arent expensive but you will have to crimp the wires yourself

[sly elk]

you probably need a dash kit

definitely check crutchfield then lol

[late basalt]

which is why i'm fine being slightly cheaper

but for this i will absolutely refuse to use amazon

i'm not getting no-lubed by some scammer selling fuckin sand in a box and having to fight amazon for a refund

[deep sapphire]

thats fair lots of counterfeit bullshit on there

[late basalt]

random shit i dont mine being chinesium? sure, i'm not spending a lot on it for that reason

[deep sapphire]

as kyanche said make sure its fully compatible and doesnt require a wire harness adapter

[late basalt]

but quality stuff like this? i want to know i'm getting my money's worth

[deep sapphire]

cause if it doesnt its pretty simple pull the center console dash out and remove a few screws

and remove the back connector

[late basalt]

almost gauranteed to need an adaptor if the bundle kits on RA are any indication

but for decade old car i cant complain that much

[deep sapphire]

well most automakers have standardized the din connector

since the late 90s

but you cant be too sure

[late basalt]

it's at least an option for me to give it the upgrade

[sly elk]

honestly

could just hit up ebay and probably find a $300 chinese kit that does wireless carplay/aa

idk how long it'd last though lol 😄

[late basalt]

rather not use something that might have an equal chance of setting my car on fire

anywho, time to head back to work

[hazy frost]

It’s a common price but not worth that

Sony has a good one for like $250 iirc

Nvm it’s like $300

Still

Cheaper than what pioneer is selling

Sony AX1000 is what I was gonna buy bc it’s cheap here

It’s not particularly nice but it does everything it’s meant to do

[sly elk]

does the ax1000 do wireless?

but yea I agree on the sonys

iirc they also regularly go on sale

when I had my jk jeep i was planning to get one of those lol

tbh I might still eventually swap out the 8.4" uconnect radio in my jeep for one of those. I hate the 'connected' stuff

stellantis thought it'd be cool to send me full screen ads that I have to click dismiss on

[hazy frost]

Yeah AX1000 was like £180 here or smth lol

Idk if it’s worth the $250 or whatever normally

Depends on ur expectations

Personally I only care that it does the job and not how fancy it is

So long as it’s responsive and not super ugly

I hate not having maps without my phone in a holder

[sly elk]

yea, I agree

responsiveness is #1

[hazy frost]

Yeah

Most are inoffensive looking anyway

I just need Spotify and maps anyway

[sly elk]

also kinda $$ but I do prefer units that have a map built in because

well I guess it doesn't matter if you have wireless carplay/AA

[hazy frost]

Yeah

[sly elk]

but if you don't, it's nice to have a map on the screen

[hazy frost]

Im probably gonna get that as the next thing for my car

[sly elk]

and even then my experience with carplay is that my phone randomly doesn't know which way it's facing

[hazy frost]

Exhaust and turbo must wait

CarPlay comes first

[sly elk]

so like every other block the map rotates back and forth

and that gets on my nerves

[hazy frost]

They’re always terrible from my experience

[sly elk]

they're terrible to use

but to just view it's fine

[hazy frost]

I’d rather just use my phone in a holder at that point

[sly elk]

also one thing I don't like in carplay is the maps don't show the speed limit unless you have a route going

[hazy frost]

Which is what I do rn but it’s not convenient

[hazy frost]

Uhh pretty sure it does if u use google maps

[sly elk]

it doesn't!

[hazy frost]

Oh well

[sly elk]

it might just be a carplay thing

[hazy frost]

I just always set a route tbh

[sly elk]

i use google maps by default LOL

[hazy frost]

Habit from using my phone

[sly elk]

yea I don't, I like just hopping in and going without worrying about it

[hazy frost]

I need to see the limit bc I can’t see signs in bushes here

[sly elk]

but I guess that's also why I like having a map on screen

if I'm going some place I'm not too familiar with, I tend to just remember the address and the general area surrounding it

[hazy frost]

But people get pulled over for looking like they’re using their phone when it’s for maps in the car

Which is a pain

[sly elk]

this also kinda goes back to the whole experience using navigation

it feels more stressful lol

the whole time I can see ETA and distance and shit

and if I'm falling behind the estimate, which I almost always am

and then finally I get where I'm going and I can't quite make that turn because of traffic, or I need to get into a parking garage half a block away

and my phone starts blowing up with

IN 300 FEET, MAKE A U-TURN

MAKE A U-TURN NOW

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[sly elk]

IN 28 FEET, TURN LEFT

[hazy frost]

I have the voice off permanently

I can’t put up with it

[sly elk]

and I'm like pulling into a parking garage and trying to talk to the security dude or whatever

[hazy frost]

I just check it whenever I can and remember directions

[sly elk]

and my phone is still there telling me i should make a u-turn across 4 lanes of los angeles parking lot traffic

[hazy frost]

I don’t wanna be told 7 instructions in a row at a big roundabout either

[sly elk]

yea xD'

[hazy frost]

It just gets unnecessarily confusing

[sly elk]

that it does

[hazy frost]

We have a lot of like 4 lane roundabouts here and it drives me crazy

[sly elk]

i also dislike the routes it gives anyway, sometimes they're way... more.... -shakes hands around head-

like the "make a u-turn in this area where nobody ever makes u-turns because it's dangerous AF"

or "take this street with a stop sign every single block instead of the main street because it'll save you 27 seconds"

the navigation built into cars is much funnier

in my old jeep it pretty much always told me to take the freeway, like 99% of the time, even if the freeway was a parking lot

even if the freeway added 3 miles to the trip

[hazy frost]

It also leads to being stuck in traffic or closed roads too often

Old ones not updating for roadworks is a real pain

[deep sapphire]

buy a 454 radiator from the junkyard there

even includes an oil and trans cooler built in

[hazy frost]

Most decent b650 boards with wifi come with 2.5g 2-3 m.2 and 6 sata

And bluetooth

Assuming u wouldn’t get a micro atx one anyway

All the ATX ones will have that

mATX ones maybe not

There’s some good matx ones that don’t cost much

Out of the more expensive ATX b650 boards probably the MSI tomahawk, b650e riptide, or b650 aorus elite AX

They’ve all got very good vrms and 3 m.2 with 2.5gb

And4-6 sata

Not sure whether u can use all of the m.2 slots and all the sata ports for all of those boards tho u would need to check

[full fern]

Hey yall, Im not sure if this is the place to ask but is there any documentation on high GPU usage over time for this game?

When I do a fresh restart of the whole PC, I can run the game perfectly fine 1440p 144fps max setting etc etc on a 3080

but over time, probably after 20-30 minutes, it dips down to 100s-110s

Confused on what it could be

[hazy frost]

lol

Not worth it rn

[full fern]

Im just chillin in front of my house in shirogane to test this

[hazy frost]

Ehh

They’ve been cheaper than that without special deals

Before

I’d wait for the 9800x3d and see what happens

It’s actually cheaper to buy the 7950x3d rn in Canada lol

It’s $799

That’s fun

Actually a much better deal at that price than the 7800x3d lol

Tbh I think it’s better value just bc there’s no justification for a $560 7800x3d

I wouldn’t buy either rn tho

There’s no way the 7950x3d and 7800x3d stay that price

Not in stock for the 7800

U either cant get one

Or they’re like 90% above what they should be

People buying these instead of a 5700x3d are insane

The 5800x3d is like 3% faster and $150 more

That’s

Interesting

Idk why anyone would do that

Long screw to mount fans on both sides I understand but

Lmfao

[dire viper]

finally an air scrubber for my room

my room is right next to the garage so I have to clean my pc twice a week :)

I didnt clean it on monday and its got like

an auto shops worth of dust in it

[hazy frost]

All ram is gonna be the same stuff anyway

Just hope u get SK Hynix stuff bc no one knows who uses what still afaik

And dealing with memory instability on ddr5 platforms is annoying

[shadow oracle]

No we do

Overclocking forums are full of information on which sticks uses which dies

You just don't know where to look

[hazy frost]

I haven’t seen any definitive list for everything yet

[hazy frost]

Yeah ok keep being unnecessarily aggravating lol

[shadow oracle]

Lmao

[hazy frost]

Either give more productive information or don’t reply to me with some passive aggressive comment what’s the point

They’re the only one I knew was meant to use it so far

That’s what I replaced my old kit with and people didn’t have much information on who used what still

[shadow oracle]

High bin ram is almost always A die

You simply can't bin other modules high enough