technology-discussion

[deep sapphire]

[dire viper]

Yes

Hank u started it (you didn’t)

This part also applies to technology

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-laugh-sarcastic-smile-king-gif-15896630

[deep sapphire]

I want a Colorado ZR2

that is all

[sly elk]

i thought you wanted a tacoma

[deep sapphire]

I want a lot of things

but

the TRD Pro doesnt come out until like June

I dunno if I wanna wait that long

[sly elk]

and come out in june means you probalby wouldn't be able to get one until 2025

[deep sapphire]

I turned ray tracing on and this became very bright

looks ridiculous

I like it

[dire viper]

Just order a Celestiq Hank

U have 300k right

[deep sapphire]

I'll get the cybertruck

[deep sapphire]

yeah probably

and toyota is notorious for dealer markups

actually scratch that, JAPANESE AUTOMAKERS in general are

[sly elk]

i mean any car company

[dire viper]

The GR Corolla wasn’t bad after the first month surprisingly

[sly elk]

any car company

[dire viper]

Nobody buying a GR Corolla is gonna have fun in it after they payed BMW M3 or 911 prices for a Toyota

[sly elk]

they introduce something more desirable than a stale loaf of bread, they mark that shit up and make it a pain in the ass to buy

[deep sapphire]

I thought GM and Ford said to cut the bullshit or they would punish dealers

[sly elk]

Ford needs to knock it off

[dire viper]

Ye

Ford actually did strip like two dealers

[sly elk]

after the bronco and the maverick and the lightning trucks

they basically ruined their chances

like ya know how many people would've bought one of those 3 things if they weren't marked up to the moon!?

[dire viper]

GM literally axed a dealer cause it bought a fuck ton of Hummer EV’s for way above sticker to flip for like half a million or more

[sly elk]

I mean

[dire viper]

They were trying to get 750k for one

[sly elk]

the ford bronco sold a lot of jeep wranglers lmao

I'm not even joking

[deep sapphire]

I believe it

and on top of that

[dire viper]

The Maverick and Bronco are fine now for pricing

[deep sapphire]

they werent even the full bronco it was the fuckin bronco sport

[sly elk]

a bunch of people joined the jeep forum and were like "I had a bronco on order but xx happened"

[deep sapphire]

a fuckin

[dire viper]

4 door broncos are way inflated

[deep sapphire]

UNIBODY JEEP

[dire viper]

Still

2 door broncos are fine

[sly elk]

for some reason, the grand cherokee has always been a unibody jeep and that was ok

[dire viper]

The Bronco sport is actually awesome

[sly elk]

like the grand cherokee, I think, was actually the first "crossover suv" to exist

[dire viper]

GOAT works really well in it somehow

Surprisingly good off road, but my mini was also the same way

Two door bronco with the manual in crawl gear kinda goes crazy

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/terrminator-wrong-gif-10539477

[dire viper]

The amount of torque in crawl is very unnerving lol

[deep sapphire]

Ford is never awesome

[dire viper]

It’s basically what you get in an aftermarket purpose built transmission but in a production truck

[deep sapphire]

Hold on adding a rule #technology-discussion

[dire viper]

Yes

[deep sapphire]

Cannot say good things about ford

[dire viper]

Oh :(

[deep sapphire]

Alright set and done

[dire viper]

What about Boss 302?

Or Mach 1

[deep sapphire]

You…

[sly elk]

chevyvyyyy

[dire viper]

What about the model T Hank :(

[deep sapphire]

What’s about it none of us were alive

[dire viper]

It’s cool

[sly elk]

that reminds me

i sa wa cadillac thingy ev the other day

[dire viper]

You can snap your wrist starting it

[dire viper]

Lyriq?

Those are pretty nice

[sly elk]

yes

[dire viper]

A little cheap on the inside but it’s American

[sly elk]

and

I,... am sad to say... I think it looks better in the pictures than it does irl

[dire viper]

I don’t think it looks good

[sly elk]

I don't like the grille -_-

[dire viper]

It’s. An car.

[sly elk]

like bruh I like me some cadillacs

[dire viper]

But it’s. An Cadillac. So. It’s slightly nicer An Car

[sly elk]

and I like the weird ass tail light treatment

and the front end.. it's.. it almost works...

yea i've never sat in one so I can't comment on the interior

i don't see anything horribly offensive about it

the current design language is... idk man

but gm interiors usually feel good and the design is ok

[deep sapphire]

I love how they have car play showing but they just said car play wont be a feature going forward

[sly elk]

yea that's lame

i imagine that will cost them a lot of sales

ya know, I only have wired carplay and I can't be bothered to plug my phone in every time I go for a drive, but when I use navigation I always do

because typing an address into the dashboard fucking sucks

[cold yacht]

I like CarPlay

I like Apple n google being able to override the software of the car

[manic turret]

Just modded my 2DS! :3

[cold yacht]

Cute 2ds

[wraith agate]

nice

expect Nintendo Cease & Desist letter in a few days

[kind rune]

does the 2ds have some advantage over the 3ds

[odd sand]

Even more indestructible!

Also charge the battery!

[cold yacht]

Wider grip on that’s about it

[odd sand]

2DS is designed for younger kids who are gonna be more abusive of it AFAIK.

Without the hinge it's more durable that way, although overall it does feel quite a bit cheaper than the 3DS. Feels like some dollar store toy almost lol

[sly elk]

yea i mean it was cheaper than the 3ds by a fair bit

like almost half the price sometimes lol

i think the 3ds were usuall around $150 and the 2ds around $89

the 2ds also only has 1 lcd in there and there's plastic covering up parts of it lol

[odd sand]

LOL really that's how they do it? Nice.

[manic turret]

Yeah the 2DS definitely feels like a toy, I have both my N3DS XL and I prefer the 2DS

[sharp star]

The New 2DS XL was the best iteration of the 3DS

[manic turret]

I really liked my 2DS XL for a short time but the loose hinge on mine drove me nuts

It felt way too cheap and poorly made. I feel like if I had to choose, It would be a 3DS/2DS or just the N3DSXL

I was really careful with mine too, I have no idea how the hinge became so loose

[sly elk]

the "new 3ds" marketing was soooo bad lol

it made the Wii U marketing almost sound sane

https://gamicus.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_New_Nintendo_3DS-exclusive_video_games

there were games that only ran on New 3DS units

I imagine this was where they fired their product lead

[odd sand]

I got two of them for $50 each refurbed from Nintendo a couple years ago and the first thing my nephew did was drop it on the wood floor bc he wasn't holding it tightly enough

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/sousou-no-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey-frieren-anime-frieren-book-drop-book-dropping-gif-5586080115796339217

[odd sand]

They've somehow managed to avoid cracking the screens on their ipads though bc of the foamy kids cases for them

[sharp star]

So I bought Sony XM5 earbuds and it's a step up from my old AirPods Pro

there was a small discount too

[odd sand]

I just got some Soundcore sport earbuds for biking and such since I lost one on my trip to japan from my old set

[sharp star]

Shit would stop connecting to non-Apple devices too

My AirPods Pro I mean

[odd sand]

Sounds like Apple

Dunno why everyone is all over them still when they charge so much and are so anti-consumer

$300 for 256gb of flash storage whatadeal

[glossy ravine]

Really, the only game I could see that absolutely needed the extra power was Xenoblade 3D. How they got that working on 3DS is. Probably black magic.

The SNES games were just an incentive to upgrade.

Well that, and Minecraft.

[sly walrus]

also the thought of playing mh4u with the nub was pretty enticing

for me, at least

[glossy ravine]

The nub was nice.

[sly walrus]

gud nub

i need to replace the battery on my 3ds

[sly elk]

apple isn't that anti-consumer, though. I mean, some of the time yes, some of the time no.

remember what phones were like before apple started selling them? :3

even now, there are "carrier branded firmware" packages for android phones sometimes

I remember not all that long ago when you would buy an unlocked pixel from google, in order to use it on T-Mobile with wifi calling and/or VoLTE you had to install the t-mobile firmware, which introduced the startup logo and t-mobile jingle when you turned the phone on

and t-mobile mandatory apps you can't uninstall

all that lovely shit that apple gave the mobile network companies the middle finger to

that was very pro-consumer

the way they provide the latest version of iOS on 6 year old iphones is also very pro-consumer imho

but I won't disagree, some things they do feel very anti-consumer lol

[odd sand]

That has everything to do with Tmobile as a carrier tho. There is no reason they couldn't have supported it as long as it supported the correct bands

The latest version on old phones bc they're the only vendor of iphones and they want to slow them down to drive ppl into buying another iphone

They had to be legislated tooth and nail into allowing 3rd party repair of their devices, and even then they still make it super hard to do anything with them bc of the glue, proprietary screws and tools, etc. They solder everything onto them so you can't upgrade storage or memory so you have to pay their inflated prices

In many cases you can't even cobble together other apple devices bc the serial numbers of the various pieces don't match up, so it complains or bricks itself.

Slow charging unless using an official apple lightning cable (which are also designed like shit so they break near the connector super easily)

Won't support RCS bc they know it causes strong impetus of vendor lockin with ppl to not be a green bubble etc.

Only going to USB-C after being forced by the EU

[burnt swallow]

That is

A lot of words

[sly elk]

yeaaa

it's more than I feel like arguing about lol 😄

and I won't deny I think they do anti-consumer stuff as well

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-stuffed-bear-yell-profanity-angry-gif-4844121

[sly elk]

-headpat-

tell me how ubuntu on the fairphone is going for you? :3

[odd sand]

I used to be a big Apple fanboy up thru the ipod days etc. but as one might expect, ultimate power, ultimately corrupts or something like that. Similar story to Blizzard.

[sly elk]

for better or worse, I think of MacOS as an OS made for people to use, and Windows as an OS for corporations to track and manage their employees with.

and I still think MS teams was the perfect example of that

especially in day-to-day usage at work lmao

[odd sand]

macOS largely feels like an after-thought by Apple and IMHO wouldn't be relevant at all if not for being built on FreeBSD, so you can do linux-type things with it

[sly elk]

it has ever since iphones caught on x_X

[odd sand]

They've abandoned any attempts at enterprise. I guess the only thing they've kept up is their dedication to creatives with art support

[sly elk]

and also I hate their pompous attitude towards people who use their computers that aren't "creatives"

scientists and engineers everywhere love using their shit

but every. single. fucking. promo is all about video editing and maybe music production

fuck everyone else

[odd sand]

I'd say simply bc it's "Linux with a mainstream friendly wrapper"

[sly elk]

it used to be

[odd sand]

Well sure, bc that's the only things it has going for itself. Otherwise you can buy it to use for Youtube and writing essays or whatnot like any other device

[sly elk]

the current versions of MacOS feel like linux with a mainstream friendly wrapper... and a lot of duct tape and hot glue

for better or for worse, the 'designed to be managed' thing lets you do things with windows that are just not possible on a mac lmao

like the last idk how many revisions of MacOS

[odd sand]

When I was last in classes a bunch of ppl had $2000 MBPs taking notes, and there I was with my $200 Tab A with a keyboard connected to it

[sly elk]

you can't delete the default applications that come with the OS because they're baked into a read-only filesystem image

there's no way to modify said image and have a bootable computer lol

[odd sand]

.Net Core works on macOS, but I'm not sure how much it can do compared to the regular Windows Powershell

[sly elk]

^ that I'll blame MS for 😄

I also hold a very unpopular belief that uh

[odd sand]

I don't see there being any blame per se, bc Windows is a different ecosystem compared to linux/bsd

[sly elk]

in principle I'm not a fan of ARM macs...

if you thought MacOS felt like an afterthought, lmao, what about the hardware

oof

I still cringe whenever I think about the new mac pro

[odd sand]

I like their recent marketing for the new macs where it's useless metrics bc there is no comparison to wtf a Compute core or Graphics core is equivalent to

[sly elk]

they're phoning it in so hard lmao

it's funnier still because afaik if you're buying a low end mac, the m1s are still the way to go

[odd sand]

TRUST ME BRO! +50% MORE WIZZBANGS AND +30% FASTER ARTWOOPS IS AWESOME!

[sly elk]

because all they've done with the m2 and m3 is continue to nerf shit

to improve product differentiation

[sharp star]

I think it’s super fucking cringe that Apple thinks 8GB of unified memory is acceptable

[sly elk]

like the base model 13" mbp m2 is worse than the m1

and afaik the m3 is worse than the m2 except in gpu performance

[odd sand]

I hope Qualcomm is able to shake things up. Their presentation looks impressive, but we'll see when the devices are actually on the market.

[sly elk]

-shruuug-

[odd sand]

Do you know what I'm talking about?

[sly elk]

I do

I haven't really bothered to read about it though, but I remember seeing an article about it

[odd sand]

TLDR is: Performance comparable to or exceeding the M2 Max, going to be in some ARM-equipped laptops in the next 6-12 months

Using Win11 ARM afaik

So that's also a big question mark on if the OS shits the bed or not

[sly elk]

https://www.xda-developers.com/microsoft-advanced-windows-settings-panel-mockup/
GREAT! Now we'll have 3 places to change settings!

[odd sand]

Advanced Windows Settings: Now with Regex!

[paper tusk]

so a shitty version of group policy editor but there's not much to edit that's useful

[sly elk]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BMG6P55R

a cd player 😮

[paper tusk]

o.o

[pine thistle]

I bet you'll still need regedit for half the stuff

[wraith agate]

@deep sapphire China confirmed using AMD graphics cards

[deep sapphire]

Lmao

[paper tusk]

https://vimeo.com/841629751

expected capacity is 10,000 TB

[umbral moss]

Think of all the porn you can store

[real edge]

when will we see that in desktops

[inland mauve]

too cinematic of a trailer, I don't trust it

music that sounds like it's straight out of a Christopher Nolan movie

oh it's ROM

I'm curious what practical uses this has

logging obviously, but it seems like an expensive solution for that

[paper tusk]

probably replace tape backup for datacenter scale weeklies

[inland mauve]

yeah but why would you use this over tapes

although maybe a solution like this scales so well that it becomes competitive with what you need to back up a really big datacentre

[lament pine]

corsair doesn't make a white 10-key keyboard do they

[lament pine]

(that's also wireless)

[odd sand]

Like a numpad?

Probably not, too niche.

[potent arrow]

God fuck Corsair boards

[wise eagle]

how much of an improvement even is nvme m.2 ssds (specifically pcie gen 3) over sata ssds

specifically in regards to booting windows

ik theres a noticeable difference when moving files between things but not much elsewhere

[odd sand]

Hard to say. In absolute% it may be considerable, but going from 45secs on HDD to 12secs on SSD and then from 12 to 6 for NVME isn't going to be as noticeable, for example.

A lot of boot time is dependent on the motherboard/BIOS, and not the time Windows takes actually loading.

I built my parents a barebones Windows system in 2012 when Win8 first came out. No frills micro atx board, and so when set to fast boot it could go from a cold boot to the login screen in like 2-3 seconds on a Core i3 dual core. (Had a SATA SSD in it)

[wise eagle]

is the difference between them noticeable for game load times

[manic lintel]

not really?
your biggest gain will be going from HDD to SSD
but SATA SSD to NVMe SSD is fairly negligible
will there be a difference? sure, but I highly doubt it'll be very noticeable, if it's noticeable at all
especially since you'll also have to take in to account your GPU and CPU

[odd sand]

Probably not unless you have a very high end CPU, and even then kinda meh

Bc loading is only half the equation bc the other half is the CPU processing the data that's being loaded

[manic lintel]

^

[odd sand]

Which is why I haven't been jumping at getting a PCIE5 ssd bc it doesn't matter for gaming, at least not until more games support direct storage

[manic lintel]

..."direct storage" sounds vaguely familiar
but I doubt I've heard it in more than just passing

[wise eagle]

what ive gathered from this info is i should save a few bucks and just get another sata ssd instead of an m.2

[manic lintel]

okay
so
I went through this the other day
m.2 slots on a motherboard can be NVMe or SATA
which means you don't need to get a regular 2.5in SATA SSD
you can get an m.2 SATA SSD and it won't have to be NVMe

what motherboard and drive were you thinking about picking up?

[odd sand]

You can get a regular PCIE3 NVME as the price diff between them is negligible at this point. I'm not even sure if you can find an SSD that fits in M.2 slot that isn't nvme anymore unless buying very old stock.

[wise eagle]

i have an asus b450 prime plus or whatever its called

the nvme ssd i was lookin at is the samsung evo plus 1tb or whatever its called

if i get a sata ssd instead it wont be the m.2 slot itll be a 2.5"

[odd sand]

A couple things that can matter are: Get TLC instead of QLC if you do frequent writes to it, like for a laptop or something. And one that has DRAM cache will perform better than ones without

QLC drives only get like 300 writes per block or something

That's a decent one, but might want to check specific pricing on similar models bc Samsung pricing has been all goofy the last year or so. eg: 980, 980 Pro and 990 are all the same price or cheaper than the 970 evo plus atm.

https://www.newegg.com/samsung-1tb-980/p/N82E16820147804

Just be sure to update their firmware when you get them, as there was some issues for some of them. But the drive magician tool Samsung has makes that painless. Also great for copying your OS install to it so you don't have to reinstall windows etc.

[manic lintel]

got the usermanual for your mobo
and if I'm reading it correctly, the m.2 slot is just a regular SATA M.2
it won't support NVMe

[void dove]

this means NVME

so it supports it

itll be PCIE 3.0 speeds

instead of 4.0 speeds, but still, supports NVMe

[manic lintel]

my bad
I thought PCIe 4.0 x4 was NVMe and 3.0 x4 was SATA

[deep sapphire]

PCI-E is directly attached to the CPU, SATA is still controlled by the southbridge

you will see a performance benefit from using NVME

[manic lintel]

if that slot is nvme, then why is it blocking Sata 5/6?

[snow cypress]

Decent motherboard?

[sly elk]

afaik they're fine. but I haven't checked am5 motherboards in a while. I have an x670e carbon myself

looks like it only has 2 nvme slots

[odd sand]

Generally if you have multiple nvme slots, the main one(s) are pcie only and the last one has overlap with SATA so it can accept sata or nvme M.2 SSDs AFAIK

If you only have 1 on the board, then it makes sense it would have that SATA overlap. Shouldn't really be an issue though, as nearly all modern builds only use 1-2 of them.

[void dove]

CPUs break out pcie lanes for many functions , one being SATA, so those ports would share those PCIE lanes

If you check chipset block diagrams, you'll see some SATA ports direct connected to the CPU, which have the option to be pcie lanes, so that's why

There are some on the chipset side as well, but can't be used for nvme afaik, only sata or more pcie slots

[sly elk]

it depends on the motherboard, but I think usually the sata are connected to the PCH (platform controller hub - aka 1 chip "chipset" hehe). The PCH also usually provides PCIE lanes!
Very often, the topmost NVME port on a motherboard uses the CPU PCIE lanes. The ones below it use PCH lanes.

One thing that I'm still not 100% clear on, is newer CPUs offer pcie 4.0 or 5.0. In that case, a "lane" offers significantly more bandwidth.

but afaik a lane is a lane, so if a nvme wants x4, then it's using 4 lanes whether or not you have pcie 3.0, 4.0, or 5.0

anyway, a typical CPU has 20-24 lanes. A cheap video card might only use 8. Most video cards use 16. Your PCIE nvme probably wants 4. If you put it in the top slot and have a dgpu, you'll use your 20 lanes.

TL;DR: Usually your motherboard manual will explain what works best.

also TL;DR: In order of biggest performance impact to smallest (my guess):
sata hard drive -> sata SSD
sata SSD -> nvme ssd (any speed, any connection)
pcie 3.0 ssd on PCH pcie lanes -> pcie 4.0 ssd on CPU pcie lanes
nvme on PCH pcie lanes -> nvme on CPU pcie lanes

[odd sand]

I think you might be able to set how many lanes it uses in BIOS, but don't quote me on that

[sly elk]

yep! depends on the motherboard/chipset though

sometimes motherboards have a pcie switch inside of them, too. Then you can use more pcie lanes than your cpu really has 😄

(I'm surprised we don't see that kinda thing more with pcie 5.0 now)

I think there is a noticeable difference between nvme and sata ssds, but the other reason I prefer nvme drives is less cables in the case 😄

but the tradeoff is it's harder to yank a nvme out of the computer

[deep sapphire]

yall talkin bout them

teHECKnowledgies

[sly elk]

and we're still not good nuff to be mentors

[deep sapphire]

nobody is

not even me

I just play ffxiv for the cat girls

[dire viper]

wait there is a phone with Hasselblad stuff in it huh

wild

500 dollars too

is OnePlus even a good brand?

[minor hollow]

Uh

Idk where they are now

They were a good option for a price point lower than samsung or apple for a while

Then they pushed into that price tier

Idk now

[modest moss]

The OnePlus co-founder started the Nothing brand

I have the nothing 1 and it's pretty good

[dire viper]

hows the camera on it

i will take a cheaper build for a better camera

[modest moss]

I honestly don't use it much so my opinion on the camera is limited to it isn't shit

[dire viper]

ok fair

for Apple you have to pay a pretty significant premium for the actually good camera

so if I can get something equal for less than a base iphone thats fine by me

[dire viper]

https://www.oneplus.com/us/10-pro this was the phone I was looking at

[neon shell]

Why does my game almost always minimizes whenever I open a tab on my second monitor

is it because of my game resolution?

[odd sand]

If the game is set to full screen it will do that. You need to use Windowed Fullscreen if you don't want that to happen

I believe technically speaking there is less command latency and chance of tearing with regular fullscreen, but it does have that downside when tabbing out

[neon shell]

Oh

☹️☹️

[neon shell]

yeah that's why I do that

extra helpful as a rdm main

[deep sapphire]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-compares-amd-zen2-architecture-in-ryzen-7000-series-to-snake-oil

they took it off their website already

thats fuckin hilarious

they aint wrong but they cant talk either

[lost python]

oneplus is decent, but the hasselblad stuff is just marketing. the cameras aint that great

[lost python]

"Core Truths"
Maybe a truth they should accept is that 350W CPUs have no place for the tiny advantage they can offer in performance and that they ended up being the bulldozer they made fun of?

[dire viper]

Most unfortunate

Tbf Hasselblad has never made a non medium format camera since the digital age came in

So I’m assuming it’s just using their proprietary software cause they use Sony sensors in their cameras anyways

[lost python]

honestly i hate oneplus for taking photos because of how they force you to use their shitty AI to "enhance" the pictures, which often ruins the look
except when you enable the "pro" mode, but then you have to adjust every setting with complete ass touchscreen radial menus

[minor hollow]

why should intel accept that truth when all gpu manufacturers have been doing the same for 2 generations now

they're all in that leaking boat together

[dire viper]

Wth

Nvm then

[minor hollow]

honey get ready it's time for your 650w gpu refreshes for a 5% performance gain

[dire viper]

Just gonna buy a 5000 dollar hasselblad instead

[lost python]

or any 500$+ camera

or cheaper even

[dire viper]

I have a camera

I’ve taken some pretty nice pictures with it

But my phone is dying and pictures matter a lot to me so I’d like to take nice pictures all the time

[lost python]

better off with a pixel or iphone then tbh

[dire viper]

I know Sony has the Xperia Pro that has a full size camera sensor in it

Expensive af tho

Think even now they’re still like 1100

I could buy 6 ford 302 blocks for that much money

[royal forge]

BUT BUT BUT AI

AI IS THE FUTURE

[dire viper]

AI fixing photos is like. Pretty normal and has been for a minute

But forcing it is very questionable

[lost python]

i cant even control the settings for the AI on my oneplus nord

[royal forge]

Thats because the AI is smarter than us

Thats why AI generated waifus have 6 or 4 fingers

[sly elk]

1" sensor o_O geez

[dire viper]

Ye

The photos are pretty raw out of it tho

So they don’t look fantastic, plus no lenses obviously

Some editing makes them look really nice

[real edge]

I am not sure I want to hear about core truths from a company that makes a desktop CPU that consumes as many watts as a workstation threadripper cpu

[neon shell]

[sly elk]

yea core truths: the 13900k and 14900k are embarrassing

[pine thistle]

also OOS turned to shit after the merger

[sharp star]

so smart that they don't have imaginations and can only create from existing things

[odd sand]

The 13900K is okay, the 14900K is the real wutaburger

[dire viper]

13900KS lmao

Let that thang drink the liquid hydrogen

What was it recently that got to 2000 watts?

Some overclockers were messing with GPU’s and got one to pull like insane levels of power

[deep sapphire]

The KS is literally just a binned chip meant for extreme overclocking

Anyone who doesn’t do that is an idiot for buying one

[dire viper]

True

It’s just like y tho

I know why

But why

[sly elk]

idk. When I was buying my new mobo/cpu, I was like "this time I am finally getting an i9"

and then I saw the thermals on the 13900k

and was like fuck that

[odd sand]

I don't really monitor it that closely. I just have a 360mm and call it good nuff

When I built it, DDR5 was still expensive, and AMD wanted fuck-you prices for the motherboards, so I stuck with Intel

I refuse to spend $500+ on a mobo with features that would have been $200 just a few years ago. And 32gb of DDR5 at the time was also like $300

So I was gonna be in for like $1200 just for CPU/ram/mobo if I went with AMD at the time...

[waxen relic]

https://www.pcgamer.com/us-gov-fires-a-warning-shot-at-nvidia-we-cannot-let-china-get-these-chips-if-you-redesign-a-chip-that-enables-them-to-do-ai-im-going-to-control-it-the-very-next-day/

Nvidia's penchant for redesigning its GPUs to get around US export restrictions has seemingly been directly called out by the US Commerce Secretary, with a warning that when such redesigns are created "I'm going to control it the very next day."

[inland mauve]

so they get one day to ship it to China

[waxen relic]

Pretty much

Seems like this chick isn't messing around

[lament pine]

Can someone walk me through reseating/repasting my cooler

[inland mauve]

you have to start by unscrewing it from the motherboard

making sure that you untighten the screws at similar rates

so that you don't put a lot of pressure on one side of the CPU

[vestal crane]

Step 0: run your CPU hot before going to take the cooler off

[inland mauve]

once you have fully removed the cooler, you wipe off what's left of the paste

oh whoops

Meara has more experience with this than me, I believe

[inland mauve]

what are you doing there

[vestal crane]

Just run an intensive CPU program for a bit before trying to take it off

Oven baked CPU

[inland mauve]

just play Jedi Survivor for five minutes

[vestal crane]

I went to go repaste my cpu but let it cool down first so I ripped the CPU out of the socket while trying to get the fan off

[inland mauve]

[sharp star]

use isopropyl alcohol to wipe off the old thermal paste

[inland mauve]

outlook stop trying to take me to the new outlook challenge (impossible)

[umbral moss]

Just glue it back on, it'll be fine

[paper tusk]

guess it's too late to suggest twisting the heatsink off instead of pulling

[minor hollow]

cosplaying jensen

but not brave enough to bake an entire gpu

[odd sand]

That was when their CPU was "welded" to the cooler and they needed to heat it up a bit to get it free lmao. So oven on low (For most ovens like 150F/70C ish)

[dire viper]

uh

my PC just cycled itself

no blue screen crash or nothing

erm

what the scallop

[modest moss]

probably just windows asserting dominance

[dire viper]

eh im not sure

was very weird

different than other crashes ive had like that

ah ha

[dire viper]

You could be right, only error popping up in the logger is for windows game bar which is the worst piece of non removable software

There’s also an error relating to my CPU that seems to cause reboots as well but that was a minute before the crash so may still be applicable

Cache Hierarchy error

I’ve just never had my pc self restart like that

Wack

[buoyant falcon]

So I have this three monitor setup with two monitors and one 4K TV.

Even though my right monitor is set to default, everything keeps launching on my 4K TV. Doesnt' matter if I'm launching a game or my PC had to restart for an update and it reopened all my apps and browser tabs, everything goes to the damn TV.

Which is an issue because it's usually off unless I'm gaming on it.

Any idea what might be causing this?

[odd sand]

I think you can turn it off though, it doesn't need to be running

[dire viper]

yea I have it off but it will turn itself on

[odd sand]

To disable the Game bar, use the keyboard shortcut of the Windows Key + G to open the Game Bar Control Panel. In the Game Bar Control Panel, click the On/Off switch to OFF. This will disable the Game Bar and DVR services. This will turn back on to the default setting of ON if a Windows Update is run.

[dire viper]

its extremely intrusive and its connected to me plugging in my controller

[odd sand]

I guess windows update ran

[dire viper]

nah its off

i checked

but it still had an error while off

[odd sand]

One thing you could do is schedule an on-boot bash script to check for the service being on and turn it off lmao

[dire viper]

im thinking its the CPU Cache Hierarchy error

[modest moss]

I don't hate it, I use it to check fps now and then

[odd sand]

Do you have an X3D?

[dire viper]

no

[odd sand]

I've never been able to get gamebar to actually record anything for me

[dire viper]

but its an error that can come up on non X3D cpu's

[odd sand]

The keyboard shortcuts don't work. So when I wanted to record stuff I always used the Nvidia one

[dire viper]

do u know what

I dont remember touching my drivers for a hot minute

let me mess with that

[modest moss]

fps is literally the only thing I use it for, and don't even install geforce experience

[odd sand]

Steam has an fps counter so I use that. Nvidia control panel has one as well I think?

Or maybe it's only Nvidia Game Experience

[modest moss]

geforce experience has the overlay, and I only have steam running if it's a steam game, things like XIV/epic etc I use the xbox shit thing, it's fine

[dire viper]

The GeForce overlay is kinda weird

Ok chipset drivers updated

[umbral moss]

Yeesh, I haven't had to troubleshoot obscure windows hardware problems since 2005

Just AMD things I guess

[dire viper]

yea that one was an AMD issue

apparently its normally something to do with out dated drivers so I just updated everything

cloud streaming Uncharted is killing my pc smh

[umbral moss]

I'm just surprised there are still hardware level "go fuck yourself" ghosts in the machine in the year of the affixed god 2023, soon to be 2024

Imagine you weren't a computer person and your pc just went "eat shit dumbass" every time you plugged in a controller

[void dove]

the price you pay for having such a complicated system that can to 10000 things

things CAN and WILL go wrong

even assuming perfect programming, you will still have issues

[umbral moss]

Yeah, but they're usually minor issues

[void dove]

as hardware is not perfect, and will have faults and fuck ups

electrical inconsistencies, means your ram may flip a bit, causing glitches youve never seen before

[umbral moss]

Having to dig around for a hardware fault code seems really windows xp era

[void dove]

computers just got better at dealing with those faults

along with other improvements

blue screens back in teh day were a joke as they would appear for even minor faults

but windows was rebuilt to handle them better, so you still get minor faults, but you just dont see them

a BSOD since the XP era, is a proper serious fault

"non-recoverable" fault

[umbral moss]

Yeah, but it was also mainly Nvidia 's fault lmao

[dire viper]

nah its not the controller

definitely some weird gremlins in the chipset

[void dove]

and a fault could be a bad part really 🤷‍♂️

but its not easy to test a bad chip, integrated in a component

[umbral moss]

Who knew giving random programmers unrestricted kernel level access would lead to the os shitting the bed constantly

[void dove]

microsoft has actually locked down a lot of the dumb access stuff in windows over the years

but microsoft is a massive proponent of backwards compatibility

[umbral moss]

This is why I didn't immediately jump on am5

[void dove]

and back in the day, systems weren't built with a lot of limits

[umbral moss]

New chipset, New uarch, new process ☠️

[void dove]

so modern windows has Slowly and i mean REAL slowly been changing things

see: UAC, deprecation of tricks old copy protection tools used (Securom/safedisk), etc.

[umbral moss]

I would love nothing more than for windows to hard block drm schemes

[void dove]

win8+ has made a lot of under the hood changes as well

win10 again as well, with driver packaging changes, and more

[dire viper]

i have a 5600X, so AM4

[umbral moss]

Am4 is ancient ☠️

Shouldn't be getting weird hardware faults

[dire viper]

whar

[void dove]

huh, im on 5900X, and its always been extremely reliable

[dire viper]

its normally an issue with the X3D versions but it seems it can be an issue with them all

[void dove]

i get barely any issues

[dire viper]

yea this is the first time ive ever had an error like that

[void dove]

very rare freezes, maybe once every couple months, if that

[dire viper]

normally it is Windows and Microsoft stuff causing issues

[umbral moss]

I usually get those kinds of errors when I have my clocks set too aggressively

[dire viper]

apparently just updating chipset drivers fixes it so we will see if it happens again but it hasnt yet

[umbral moss]

More volts or accept defeat and drop the multiplier

[dire viper]

I have my 5600X just on the normal profile and have for a hot minute

[umbral moss]

To be honest there's no reason to dick around with overclocking anymore, cpus have like no headroom anymore

[void dove]

if anything i turn off auto-boosting

[umbral moss]

The most you could do is bring up the all core multiplier and watch it burst into flames

[void dove]

i dont need the performance, for what i do, i didn't even want a 5900x to start with

[umbral moss]

I'm in the same kind of boat, I want more power but I absolutely do not need something like a 7950x3d lmao

The power consumption jump is bonkers

[dire viper]

7800X3D is better if your just gaming, but i think that point is a dead horse at this point

[void dove]

i just couldnt find a 5600x anywhere when i was buying, so at least i know my base setup will work for a long time

[umbral moss]

By the time I'm ready to buy a new pc the 8950x3d will be here anyway lmao

With two whole functioning chip let's, not just one

[void dove]

maybe they will make it ACtually work properly crooss chiplets by then 😛

the 7950x3d was a mistake

[umbral moss]

They should have asked apple how to bolt monolithic chips together

Just wait for apple to unveil the m3 ultra ultimate extreme

72 m3 chips on one package

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUT4d5IVY0A

I'm not sure if this warrants a 14-minute video but I still think Intel's claims are fucking weird

[sly elk]

it's gamers nexus

remember how they spent like idk an hour talking about that dude with the water cooler thing

[sharp star]

yeah

[modest moss]

14 minutes is basically gn's version of a yt short or tiktok

[deep sapphire]

I dont find intel's claims weird, I just think its more of a dont throw stones in a glass house

they all do it

AMD's mobile SKU naming is horrendous

not a single person here will argue that

[sharp star]

yeah

[deep sapphire]

but intel does shit like

"intel 7"

which is obviously trying to make it seem like its comparable to 7nm when its 10nm lol

is it as compeititve? I mean yes in ways

but its not 7nm

[sharp star]

I'm finally looking at the slides and it's incredible

a masterful work of art

literally pissing and crying on the floor

yeah it's a dig at mobile CPU naming but hey pot, meet kettle

Also correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Intel put "old" cores in "new" processors too

[minor hollow]

Its not that it's marketing, but it's hypocritical and that sets Steve off

[sly elk]

I won't blame intel but whenever I think "intel" I think of alienwares with an i9 and a 60 series gpu

[deep sapphire]

not that I know of no

at least not in the same context

[sharp star]

hmmm

[deep sapphire]

they do have refreshes on occassion though much like the 14th to 13th gen

but its never a regression of performance in a newer gen

[sharp star]

yeah

[deep sapphire]

but thats still counts as a glass house IMO

they are acting like its a brand new product when it isnt

[odd sand]

Got my Asgard back in the mail from the repairs. Supposedly the "muting circuit prematurely triggers" ... whatever that means.

So I hope that is simply their word for a thermal shutdown safety

Although their solution was simply to lower the sensitivity to it kicking in So I hope that is actually a proper fix and I'm not burning this thing down bc the bottom was super hot when I first have it. Like untouchably hot

Gonna run it for awhile and see how hot it gets

[odd sand]

Yep, guess that was it. The bottom after like 20mins is only maybe 120F instead of feeling like 180-200F

[uneven spade]

laughs in 11900K

this was a disaster back then for a very good reason

[deep sapphire]

Oh yeah I forgot all about that generation

[sharp star]

I think we should all remember it just to keep making fun of Intel

[uneven spade]

tho jokes aides. the 11th gen parts that made sense were the 11400F on the desktop and 1165G7 on laptops

everything else was just pointless unless you really wanted AVX512

[severe flax]

Did they hire userbenchmarks guy?

[sharp star]

I dunno but shitflinging isn't new for either AMD or Intel

[lament pine]

Is it just me or does corsair not have a white mouse

[sharp star]

I feel like white hardware is one of those "premium" things

[modest moss]

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Ultra-Wireless-Tunable-Gaming/dp/B0BKGRJ1JM

[lament pine]

Oh no

[modest moss]

that's what they define as 'white'

[lament pine]

That's not a mmo mouse

I want like a white scimitar

Hubby changed brand loyalty from razer to corsair

He has a black set of stuff and we're slowly getting me the white set of stuff since he got me a white case

So far I've got a headset and the case and I've identified a keyboard

But there doesn't seem to be a white corsair mmo mouse

Like i could maybe live without it but damn those buttons are convenient

[modest moss]

that one with 3 buttons on the side is the most I can see

yeah looks like their mmo mouse is the scimitar elite and is only in black

[sharp star]

https://fxtwitter.com/tomwarren/status/1732414580322889820

https://tenor.com/view/office-space-gif-18166316

[odd sand]

Have to claw my Deathadder out of my cold dead fingers /s
Maybe you can white powder coat a black mouse

[wraith agate]

Hilarious

[severe flax]

Ok they removed the slideshow from their website

[dire viper]

Intel literally having an argument that’s mostly semantics

Most enthusiast buyers are looking at 3rd party benchmarks to determine whether or not a piece of hardware is right for them

[lost python]

https://youtu.be/uVdNpk8tvBI

neat little trailer but i will wait for actual real world results

some more stuff here
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-unveils-instinct-mi300x-gpu-and-mi300a-apu-claims-up-to-16x-lead-over-nvidias-competing-gpus

[odd sand]

Doesn't Nvidia have an H200 card coming out soon that is way better?

[lost python]

who knows, gotta see

AMD can hardly compare to something that isnt released yet anyway

wouldnt be surprised if thats the case though

and its not like anyone will use AMD, even if they are better, anyway because Nvidia is too deep into the industry already

[odd sand]

I mean, that thing from AMD isn't released yet either, is it? heh

[lost python]

yes
but how do you expect AMD to compare it to something that hasnt released?

[odd sand]

I'm just pointing out the marketing materials aren't very useful when comparing to like 2-3 year old hardware that is imminently going to be refreshed by their main competitor

[dire viper]

wait actual AMD work station GPU?

whar

[deep sapphire]

yes

AMD once again falling behind

🤣

they should just sell off the radeon brand to someone with more capital

[odd sand]

Possibly. I don't remember the exact numbers, but I think in at least some of the stats they were saying the H200 would be 2.4x better. So AMD advertising 1.6x better than the H100 is

[paper tusk]

https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/12/just-about-every-windows-and-linux-device-vulnerable-to-new-logofail-firmware-attack/

[odd sand]

Okay, but who is going to upload a malware boot image to their device?

[umbral moss]

Yeah, that seems like a really fringe issue unless you have a compromised bios image that uses this

And even then, compromised bios image is much more powerful than this logo exploit thing

[paper tusk]

the boot image is modified, not the firmware itself

apple devices aren't affected since boot image is embedded in firmware, and dells are partly mitigated since they don't allow boot image modification

[sly elk]

wE HaVe tO LoCk tHe uSeRs oUt bEcAuSe tHeY DoN'T KnOw aNy bEtTeR

security experts: Make devices only load signed firmware/os and threaten tinkerers with DMCA c&ds for daring to challenge your superior security

[inland mauve]

engineers trying to bypass all the security on their devices so they can jury rig their own solution using a guide they found on the internet

[inland mauve]

unless you can give me a good reason why regular users would ever need to be able to do this

just go to IT smh

[sly elk]

because it's my hardware and I paid for it?

[inland mauve]

oh your own device?

be my guest

do whatever you want with it

[sly elk]

thank you

[inland mauve]

just don't bring it in my network

[sly elk]

corporate IT can go fuck themselves

[inland mauve]

it's funny how everyone always says that but they all inevitably visit the desk when their computer stops working

[sly elk]

now, engineering IT.. we're buddies

[sly elk]

because IT pushed out new stuff in the name of security that broke everything?

rushed a pushout**

"Sorry it worked for the other 700 people that don't code on their computers" and then you get yelled at for charging overhead for not getting work done

[dire viper]

one day intel will have good drivers for GPU's

[inland mauve]

lul

[sly elk]

to be fair

it does need to exist

lest you'll end up with someone who insists on running windows 7 on their work computer

with random DLLs they found on some random github account

[inland mauve]

we just don't allow windows 7 machines in the domain anymore... well at least in theory

[sly elk]

yea to be fair there's no need to take my complaints about watching IT do dumb things, with what your IT does lol

[inland mauve]

oh I am not being 100% serious here

[sly elk]

and both of us can benefit from taking a deep breath and trying to see from the other person's shoes xD

same :3

I've had the moment myself before

cybersecurity would prefer... stuff that's kinda impossible

but I'm not opposed to forbidding dumb stuff xD

[inland mauve]

I am joking about what it looks like from the perspective of security

[sly elk]

like (and I'm not saying my company does thie because they're not that dumb)

[inland mauve]

have you ever had a pet bunny?

[sly elk]

like using root/root on dev boards and having passwords under sticky notes

[inland mauve]

we had them and whenever we let them roam free in the garden one of them would try to dig under the fence to get to the neighbour's garden

[odd sand]

This is my friend's company. IT from the main company dictating what laptops the full stack developers use (garbage), installing a code review plugin that basically fails everything bc it's poorly designed preventing any PR from going to master, and now preventing them from having access to elevated perms on their laptops without putting in a support ticket and waiting

[inland mauve]

that's what engineers who go above and beyond to disable security features on systems to make their own non-standard duct tape solution work remind me of

[sly elk]

lol

[inland mauve]

doesn't happen often fortunately but every now and then...

[odd sand]

Security so secure, nobody can do any work /s

[inland mauve]

[sly elk]

i could give you terrible excuses for having elevated privs on my laptop

[inland mauve]

you will simply not get them

[umbral moss]

At least the it group has time to watch YouTube and shit post on discord

[sly elk]

yea i'm fine with watching anime on the clock while waiting to get someone from IT to let me use a usb-to-serial adapter

the very funniest thing I've seen get locked out was being able to adjust microphone gain

[inland mauve]

man I still remember when we disabled the Xbox game bar for the entire company because we figured nobody used it

and then one person got really mad at us

because he used it to record presentations

[sly elk]

also having admin on server racks is a different issue than having admin on a laptop

server rack probably aint getting stolen from a table in starbucks

[umbral moss]

Rs232 is quite literally the shambling corpse from dawn of the dead

Just won't die no matter how many times you try

[sly elk]

i try to find a happy balance between "can get work done" and "not my problem"

ermm

i don't like carry a bigass keychain around because it just means more to be responsible for right?

i also think there's balance in things like toolchain haha

like we don't have a standard dev toolset where I work. some people use vim, some use emacs, some use vscode, some use sublime

it's nice

I don't know that I'd be happy working in a company where you have a locked down IDE config everyone uses

[inland mauve]

is there a way to remove the Nitro gift button from my chat bar?

[wise jay]

God I wish.

[inland mauve]

I keep accidentally clicking on it and unlike the other pop-ups it won't close by hitting ESC

[wise jay]

Ya ESC not closing it is the worst part

[umbral moss]

Gacha design moment

Easy to accidentally click the buy button, hard to be like "no I made a mistake" and close it

[golden stream]

^ yep

[umbral moss]

MLA does that shit, they move the button to collect rewards so if you're not paying attention you click the store button instead of the collect button

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6McS5GdDozE

[lost python]

tl;dw not its not "fixed", but its a lot better compared to before

[graceful pine]

That’s a normal speed

What’s odd

[graceful pine]

Just felt like an odd thing to talk about lol

Since that’s an average speed for a jet

[modest moss]

he's going on holiday, he's excited, seems pretty normal

[odd sand]

When this baby hits 888kph you're gonna see some serious shit...

[deep sapphire]

I CANT FLY

FIFTY FIVE

[dire viper]

888km/h is pretty darn fast

especially if you're not at sea level

at 4000 meters on a cold day I think thats right behind mach 1

cause mach 1 is like 900~ish

at that altitude

[pine thistle]

its fast but still normal for a passenger plane no?

[dire viper]

sorta?

depends on the plane

typically at altitude, 100%

if below at altitude normally not

too much drag

tbh? I think it entirely depends on altitude and temp

cause as you get higher, your mach speed requirements go down

less air for drag and less air in general

X-43A is the test bed that went Mach 10

[pine thistle]

ah ofc, but for cruising altitude it's normal

[dire viper]

cause technically at 18k meters a planes cruising speed would be past mach

hence why they use both ground speed and IAS

and mach

ground speed, speed you are actually going

although I dont think modern commercials have that issue anymore

GPS goes crazy

ah so yea they sit at 600mph ish which is right under mach, by about 100-150mph at altitude

[dire viper]

fast

[minor hollow]

bring back concorde

let us zoom

[dire viper]

soon maybe

if the Lockheed and NASA experiment goes well

[minor hollow]

i love how the sr-71 blackbird leaked fuel constantly on the ground

because the design was for the heat of its speed to cause thermal expansion and "seal" it that way midflight

[odd sand]

I was making a loosely similar joke to the back to the future 88mph quote

Where are you flying to?

[odd sand]

That GN video about Intel is funny but not unexpected considering 14th Gen feels like the 14nm+++++ days. But also tacky in that he bothered to drive down to Intel offices simply to take some silly video skulking around the property. I hope he didn't pay to fly out there just for that lol

[dire viper]

they were doing some other stuff there as well it seems

but uh

i dont feel bad at all for any criticism that intel got

cause uh

whoever requested that to be made probably shouldnt have a job

cause it was half gibberish

criticism is fine as long as its coherent

[odd sand]

Yeah, if you don't have a better product to release, then don't release one.

But at this point they're so committed to a yearly cadence they feel they have to increment even if they have no resources still committed to monolithic design

[dire viper]

idk its just funny picking a side with companies that only exists to make money

pick whatever is better when it comes too 3rd party and real world testing

[odd sand]

I've used both several times. I have gone on a streak of Intel since 2012, but that was bc amd was dog shit for a long time, and then I got a 9900k bc it was on sale and couldn't find stock for the 3900x for months

[dire viper]

yuh AMD was pretty bad for a long time

[odd sand]

And then got the 13900k bc I could carry forward my ddr4 ram and the mobo was 180. Whereas at that time all amd boards for the 5000 series were $500-700 and ddr5 was like $300 for 32gb

[dire viper]

whar

I mean DDR5 at launch

was pretty cringe

im not even gonna say nothin other than what a shit show

[odd sand]

When 5000 series released, they only had highend boards available

[dire viper]

yea

but I dont remember ever seeing boards near that much

unless its something like the godlike boards

[odd sand]

Mix of highend boards and covid gouging I think

[dire viper]

true

what was the first 5000 CPU to come out?

[odd sand]

But the decent boards that would have been 250 before were all 500-550

[dire viper]

I upgraded my stuff early 2021, got a 5600X and a board on discount

plus my 3070 was only 50 dollars over MSRP

so I was happy with that

[odd sand]

Gotta run, ttyl

[dire viper]

fair

cya

[buoyant falcon]

Ever wonder what the future of IT will be like if wetware ever becomes a thing?

[glossy ravine]

Wetware??

[buoyant falcon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetware_computer

[wise jay]

Im ready for the IRL ship got sick episode from Startrek Voyager

[paper tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXTXjnvzE78

[sly elk]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BWDMYK83

i didn't realize somebody else made these now

man this one's the perfect size and almost perfect shape for an arcade cabinet

ohh it's apparently the same panel as a dualup

[real edge]

holy shit

I wonder when will I ever get the chance to recommend something other than the gigabyte displays lmao

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/gs27qc

[violet python]

If a 7600 and 6700 xt roughly the same price...
Should i choose more vram or newer tech?

[real edge]

hmmm

ohh look its another gigabyte monitor XD

6700xt

better performance

[violet python]

24' is big enough for me...
Gonna make my eyes like Chameleon if i use that 🤣

[real edge]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/g2724d huh

this is decent

I will add this to what I recommend

better than the LGs of old

maybe ill give a list of my recommended displays and pin it

My recommended displays as of 2025:

AS OF 2026, RTINGS HAS PAYWALLED ALL REVIEWS... BUT IF YOU STILL WANT TO SEE THE REVIEWS, JUST USE THE WAYBACK MACHINE, IT STILL WORKS.

1440p:

AOC Q27G4ZMN

-https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/g2724d - DELL G2724D

-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE0tQ6fYkOw - Gigabyte M27QA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56EPH-MibMM - Gigabyte M27Q3

4k:

-https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m32u

-https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27u

-https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/acer/nitro-xv275k-p3biipruzx

Ultrawide:

-There are a myriad of LG displays that are all good, just google ultrawide LG and link what you found here so that we can take a look, an example of that is: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/34gp83a-b.

Although do note that good ultrawides cost a lot of money and need quite a bit of GPU horsepower to run them, they are not recommended on a budget.

I personally currently CANNOT recommend any OLED or QD-OLED displays, they are prone to burn-in and as such they are not worth the cost, they will need replacing after a few years if not taken care of properly, its too much of a hassle and worry for almost 1000$.

1080p is a resolution I would not recommend getting, its not worth it in 2025, there are quite a few cheap 1440p displays that are much better.

HDR on gaming monitors sucks and is not worth the investment at all, don't bother. If you want HDR just get a TV instead and watch your HDR content there.

[real edge]

there

[lost python]

should have added "HDR: Don't bother, just get a TV"

[inland mauve]

HDR is kind of neat if it's a built in feature

but it doesn't always work well

Hitman has had broken native HDR support since launch, they never fixed it

[lost python]

HDR on PC in general is just a miserable experience and pretty much no decent monitor can even reach proper brightness for it

[inland mauve]

it ducks up my screenshots

[umbral moss]

What's wrong with that? Looks like they used a proper thickness bus bar to bridge them

[severe flax]

@sharp star these look pretty nice... kinda makes me wanna buy one but then I remember that my PC is on the floor due to my desk not having space

[umbral moss]

So? Just don't kick it 6head

[odd sand]

1080p or not really depends on what GPU you can afford. If all you can afford is a 3050, I wouldn't go 1440p bc your fps will be crap.

[odd sand]

Glass corners... so hot right now /s

(Thinking of the Hyte Y60 and O11 Dynamic View or w/e )

[graceful pine]

I never bother with excessive rgb stuff

Tbh I need to install another intake fan

But it’s not essential

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBtXw2mzPKs

kek holy shit

[potent arrow]

holy shit lmfao

[deep sapphire]

it fuzed the anvil and hammer together

LMAO

[potent arrow]

LMAO

God imagine without that rpm step down

[deep sapphire]

@potent arrow

[potent arrow]

FUCK

[odd sand]

Is it that it's overfilled, or did they fill the wrong reservoir? heh

[cold yacht]

Are gmt400 owners that weird that there’s enough people to make a threatening aura page

[deep sapphire]

yes

[deep sapphire]

overfilled

[cold yacht]

[deep sapphire]

some funny posts on there

[gritty belfry]

it BSOD again

[deep sapphire]

I need an update on the original problem

[gritty belfry]

i did a system restore so like

uh

it was like

dcp watchdog violation

i updated my drivers for intel and nvidia

still BSOD

so i sys restored

its like whenever i open ffxiv

and loadin

i havent tried it yet though since

because im at home

gym

looking for a plug for treadmill

[lost python]

could also be a failing drive or ram that is causing this, not just drivers or software

[dire viper]

There are some but you are paying actual money because you’ll only find it in the true top end or actual work monitors

Aka you’re stuck buying a QD-OLED for an HDR1000 capable monitor that’s not like. Meant for actual production

Also that monitor list doesn’t even have a single Dell on it smh

If you work for a company that buys through Dell they go from being slightly higher to being an amazing deal

One of my friends been buying QD-OLED’s that way lmao

He has 3 for some fucking reason

[real edge]

the first one is a dell

[dire viper]

My ass is blind

And it’s the one I see people tell me to get all the time W

Why does nobody talk about dell monitors more

They’re crazy good

[sly walrus]

because everything else dell is ass

[dire viper]

And they just phased out a bunch of older models so you can get them on discount rn

[dire viper]

True

[sly walrus]

budget ass computers that still feel like you’re overpaying

[dire viper]

That’s everything rn

I’m seeing 4060 computers listed at 1900

[dire viper]

With not a good CPU in them

[gritty belfry]

i have a msi laptop

so idk

[dire viper]

For shame

Jk

[sly elk]

all that discussion about monitors: The problem is just like PC parts

[dire viper]

How is your huge monitor Aeris

[sly elk]

there is no generalist "good for everything" anymore

you have 240hz monitors that are shit at everything except being 240hz

you have OLED monitors that are fantastic for high contrast and black blacks.... and terrible for reading text, don't normally come in practical resolution/size, etcetc

[gritty belfry]

18" laptop i think?

[sly elk]

you have very high DPI monitors (6k 32", 5k 27") that only do 60hz and may or may not have good contrast and are a bitch to interface with most computers

[gritty belfry]

idk

its raider Ge76 12UE

[sly elk]

and for the most part, everyone using a desktop buys a 34" 3440x1440 of some sort, the same resolution that's been around for like 10 years now lol

and for some reason, 2560x1440 is still a respectable monitor resolution, even though the very first laptop I got at work out-of-college 9 years ago had that resolution on its screen lol

the 30" apple cinema display was 2560x1600 in 2004 lol 😄

I sometimes feel like monitor tech is a scam

of course that's a little bit dismissive of tech advancements lol

[lost python]

it is a scam

just like TV tech

all around ovepriced crap

[sly elk]

like to be fair, each of the cool tech things is cool in its own right, it's just frustrating that you can't get a 'best monitor that does it all'

you just have to decide what you want most and are willing to compromise on to get it

haha also, most of the monitors use very cheesy chassis and gaudy stands

but ofc if you decide to flip those the middle finger and buy yourself an apple screen, you're stuck with a single thunderbolt input and can't change the friggin brightness lol 😄

did I mention the kinda parts diy gaming desktops use are stuck in the stone age and for some reason none of the manufacturers acknowledge thunderbolt existing?

pcie 4.0 is common now and pcie 5.0 is even a thing, and yet gpu manufacturers can't be fucked to even think about using thunderbolt ports

they're all like

YO HO HO OUR GPU IS AWESOME WITH HDMI 1.3!

-insert samsung odyssey g9 owners whining about support for 240hz on their fancy gpu at full res-

it's funny because thunderbolt would make using a vr headset a lot less annoying

1 plug straight into the gpu instead of some funky triple headed harness thingy

[dire viper]

Didn’t you buy the huge monitor from Costco

[lost python]

thats how it has been with modern headsets

my quest 2 for example can either plug directly into the GPUs USB-C or go USB3.0 to headset. single cable and connector

well in metas case you dont even need a cable anymore

[dire viper]

I just want a QD-OLED

[dire viper]

if you stay at the 144Hz range you can find lots of really good monitors

[odd sand]

Isn't that a DRM issue with the video signal? Could be a bad cable then, or bad connector on the monitor or GPU even.

[dire viper]

ive been very pleased with my monitor, but I got it on discount years ago cause it went out of production, and HDR to me is something you dont need unless you actually have a requirement in your life for HDR lmao

or you just blow the money on like a QD Panel

cause those look pretty awesome

[odd sand]

If you go with QD-OLED, probably be a good idea for the taskbar to hide itself, and set the screensaver to come on after like a minute of activity or something.

[sly elk]

for sure

[dire viper]

eh IDK about that

[odd sand]

Wonder what being on discord a lot would do to it since so much of the screen is static heh

[sly elk]

luckily for me, I haven't used a OLED monitor so I'm still totally fine with IPS black levels and contrast lol

[odd sand]

Maybe use a transparent skin and set some chill video as your wallpaper lol ... like a northern lights loop or something heh

[dire viper]

my friend with a double QD setup does remote IT and his shits on 24/7 cause hes on on-call salary

he only has them cause he gets a discount cause the companies hes with has a partnership with dell

might as well QD's for like 25% off

https://youtu.be/Fa7V_OOu6B8?si=uYs4usH8L-otTKpz

hank posted this a minute ago

well

two weeks ago?

[sly elk]

pretty much every company does lmao

but I've never seen it actually give a legit big discount

always felt like dell did the hank hill special deal

[dire viper]

he doesnt go through the normal company order structure, hes buddies with procurement cause for whatever reason said company gives them the shittiest software to work with to save a few bucks so hes always having to help them

a lot of companies are cring

the best employee ordering system I have ever experienced was when I was working at a dealership

everything we bought was cost plus one cent

so the GM of the dealer could say he was charging us something without actually doing much

I almost bought a roof tent for my mini cause it woulda been 2000 instead of 4500 retail

[gritty belfry]

idk

is that a laptop thing

[dire viper]

ah they went down in price again

[sly elk]

that's pretty cool

the best work discount i get is on rental cars lol

[dire viper]

damn

[odd sand]

Watchdog violation BSOD is firmware or driver mismatch error, so it's either caused by a hardware failure, or you have installed wrong drivers.

[dire viper]

RIP Aeris laptop

[gritty belfry]

so whats that mean

bad ssd?

[odd sand]

🤷‍♀️ Does it tell you which driver it doesn't like?

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/B4syyUiBG5I?si=OKSFPINcNq6ymipV

[gritty belfry]

nope

[deep sapphire]

Sorry I had a jerb interview

When I get back to my PC I’ll help you further

@gritty belfrysend me a PM later when you are free

[gritty belfry]

i got something different this time

[deep sapphire]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/bluescreenview/

download that

wait actually thats old af version

https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html#DownloadLinks

just do download with full install/uninstall support

[odd sand]

Seems to often be caused by CPU thermal issues or PSU not supplying enough power or can be a faulty power cord. Stuff in that area of problems. You said it's a laptop?

Download a CPU temp utility for windows and see how high it gets. Maybe you need to clear dust out of it or put new thermal paste between the CPU and the heat pipe in the laptop

[sly elk]

ha that reminds me

i need to take my mac pro outside and blow all the dust out of it again -_-

the only problem with the trash can, it clogs up easily

[gritty belfry]

im outside again

hank told me to open the back and see if somethings loose when i come back

[sly elk]

lol

Something has been severely wrong with hiring for the last few years. We run the same coding exercise that we’ve been doing for years, but suddenly tons of applicants are failing. And we’re talking about people with 8+ years of experience with the language. They lack incredibly basic knowledge, such as the difference between map and forEach, which is something where I just can’t hire someone as a senior if they don’t know it.

^ I wonder if it's just covid screwing people's brains up

[dire viper]

maybe people are getting lazy

[sly elk]

https://imgur.com/gallery/8cw104e

[sly elk]

idk, lazy is why I use things like map or foreach

and they also said

I’m getting people applying for senior roles who can’t write a [..] switch statement. People who are making severe mistakes with basic language syntax, etc.

idc about syntax too much but idk why someone would call themselves senior and not know what a switch is

unless they never used a language that had them

[dire viper]

Yea weird

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/what-ever-gif-18317009

[dire viper]

Maybe it’s people working a dead end job for 8 years and finally looking for something lol

Not that hard to believe

[sly elk]

yup

i also feel like it's a 'you sow what you reap' kinda game. too many companies asking for too much experience so like

they get someone with 2 years experience applying for "senior" because all their openings say "senior" and never anything else lol

and shit, I mean a lot of programming job ads might as well say "and I want a pony, too"

[dire viper]

Real

[sly elk]

cuz what they really want, is a clone of their current best employee lol

the one that knows their exact business case and can "hit the ground running"

i always hated that phrase

it always reminds me fo this lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDq42VIYVnc

[sly elk]

i still dig this, just wish the feet were part of the metal too

I imagine they didn't do that because they didn't wanna get sued for copying the old mac pro design

but they could've just kept it u-shaped

I also don't like that the side panels screw on instead of using latches 😦

[sharp star]

for a minute I thought it was a modded Power Mac case

[sly elk]

nah it's pretty different

but it cops enough of the style to give me powermac g5 vibes ^_^

the case is one of those modular kinda designs where all the panels can be removed/changed around

the front/back bars are reversible to be feet instead of handles

which doesn't make much sense to me

it also comes in gold lol

man the powermac g5 design never gets old lol

the newer mac pro tower is kind of gaudy by comparison

i don't hate it, but man it just aint the same lol

[real edge]

this looks like some kind of space heater