technology-discussion

[potent arrow]

HWID memes

go for it

[bitter girder]

Might as well use windows 11

[wide hill]

Might as well use linux

[olive bear]

I recommend hannah montanta linux to get the most out of your machine

[dull garnet]

I recommend templeos

[bitter girder]

Lu la lu

[modest moss]

you can 100% use kb/m on ps4, I assume the same for ps5 but I don't have one

I would be amazed if it wasn't supported

[bitter girder]

It supports

[royal forge]

I dont want win 11. Hate the UI

Ye. But win 11 looks uggo AF

[odd sand]

The UI is not really changed much from 10 to 11

And yeah, with the search function I haven't used the start menu in forever

[royal forge]

I dont like the centrally positioned taskbar

Also

JUST COLLECTED MY CASE AND SSD

POG

[odd sand]

I mean, changing it to the left is like a 5 sec fix

[royal forge]

Was wonderin u mentioned DRAM in regards to the SSD

Whats the perks of that

Lemme look at it later

[odd sand]

Yeah the cheaper one doesn't have dram cache and slower controller. like 5500/2800 r/w vs 7000/7000

[royal forge]

So will it affect stuff like games etc?

I wanna use it for secondary games and 3D stuff storage

Textures etc

[odd sand]

Don't worry about it then, should be fine

[royal forge]

Aite. Thanks

[odd sand]

I wonder why our taskbar settings menus look slightly different

Are you on 22H2?

[royal forge]

I have yet to purchase windows

[odd sand]

If you have an existing Windows license from anything, you can usually upgrade it and use it. At least from 8 and 10. Possibly even from 7

Also they have "system builder" licenses that are like $40 instead of $100 AFAIK

[modern iris]

You can get licenses for 20-30 on kinguin

I bought a w7 ultimate disc 5 years ago off eBay for 15 it was awesome

Well, more like 6

[odd sand]

I know you could upgrade 7 to 10. But I dunno if you can then upgrade that 10 to 11

[royal forge]

Im currently undecided for 11

[odd sand]

@tame fulcrum Might know rite heh

[royal forge]

It looks.. quite ugly

At least 10 looks clean

[modern iris]

I think 11 is free from 10 as long as you got tpm 2.0

[odd sand]

Look into the customization for it, I know you can change up the colors and various things

[modern iris]

Yeah 10 is still supported by Microsoft

[royal forge]

Nono. Just the look is... apple-y

[modern iris]

There's programs to change that

[odd sand]

I don't even know what TPM means anymore. My board has a TPM header on it and the bios talks about TPM key options but they were off. But I was able to fresh install 11 so

[modern iris]

Minehas a header as well but my Ryzen CPU has software tpm

There was a bug some months ago that caused your system to hang if you had tpm

Yeah I was wondering wtf it was. I had fixed it without knowing cuz I updated bios

Did they announce it already?

I miss 7

And xp

My bro always pirates stuff. Me I get paranoid about not having genuine software and viruses etc

I've had a few email address that got full of junk that I migrated to new ones lol.

[royal forge]

AHHHHHHHHHHH

[hard drift]

now build it

[royal forge]

WHAT FIRST

CPU mobo?

IKZ

[hard drift]

i would do psu then cpu/mobo but that's just me

[royal forge]

I gotta do a test run firsy

CPU, RAM, SSD on mobo dry run

Then reassemble in case

FUCK

How do i know whoch side is up

[hard drift]

???

match up the triangles

or go based on the writing

is this your first time building a pc

[royal forge]

No

I cant find the triangle on the board

[hard drift]

you don't really need it

[royal forge]

IPA 96 on the CPU before i put the thermal ye?

[hard drift]

sorry, what?

[royal forge]

Er

Rubbin alcohol to clean the cpu before i put thermal paste?

[hard drift]

i mean if you want? i never have

i only do it after i've put thermal compound on it before

[royal forge]

Alright

Pea sized, rice or what method

For the thermal compound

[hard drift]

i cover the whole thing lol

and use a card to spread it

[royal forge]

I've only used default intels

[kindred brook]

is this because

[royal forge]

Bit scary for me

[kindred brook]

I migrated to 11

[royal forge]

Im worried i'll fucknit up

[hard drift]

do 4 dots X method

[royal forge]

Damn it

It squirted

Ok. I'll do 4 dots

Looks like 4 turds

[hard drift]

it works lol

the main place you really want to put it is the center anyways

the card is still in stock

[modest moss]

tbh I check what each cooler manufacturer suggests

like, noctua wanted a very specific pattern for 12th gen intel

[sly elk]

wow a 3090

looks like aoi's gonna have a nice build

[sly elk]

ya know I hadn't looked at gpu prices in a minute

3080tis sold out everywhere

best buy has 3070s for 579 and 659 and the 659 is just a 3070 xc3

749 for a 3070ti strix

.. what happened to gpu prices going down? lol

[hard drift]

what do you expect... strix tax

[royal forge]

THIS SCREW IS TOO FUCKIN SMALL

I CANT OPEN IT

[void dove]

its standard size for m.2

get a proper small screwdriver

[sly elk]

those screws are so annoying

[royal forge]

Alright. Headin out to buy one more SSD, extension plugs, a small screwdeiver set, and MAYYE a mkb

Phew.

I fucked up every single step of cooler installation

Hand shakin wit excitement too much

[hard drift]

Lmao

[sly elk]

much to my surprise

i mentioned to my mom i was thinking about buying a steering wheel to play racing games

and she loves the idea lol

(before you get the wrong idea, I don't have to ask for permission, but I do ask her opinion)

[odd sand]

Its definitely fun with the force feedback

[sly elk]

i mean

i have assetto corsa

and i'd be down to try other racing games

[modest moss]

buy it, then play gta online with it and tell me if it's good

then I'll look at the price and not buy it anyway

[royal forge]

This had better fit

I guess this

Looks small enough ye

About the same

[modest moss]

I mean, the top set should be better in general

[royal forge]

Ye..

4 times the price

Ice

This is SEA

We dont do standardized

[royal forge]

I'll grab this then

Theres even this

This what you meant

Whatthefuck

@tame fulcrum

Good for my spectacles too

[sly elk]

sigh

ice is killing me XD

I was thinking of getting the g920 or this puppy

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1194830-REG/thrustmaster_4169082_t300_ferrari_racing_wheel.html/overview

[royal forge]

Ah well

Last one was bought

[sly elk]

i have to go to target

[royal forge]

Psh

[sly elk]

huh

the difference is smaller than I thought

i thought the t300 had a way bigger wheel

ahh the alcantara wheel is considerably bigger

[hard drift]

The difference is you don’t need to upgrade the racing setup as much unlike gpu

[royal forge]

OK

Need hel

PSU starts

Then shuts down

[modest moss]

explain further, is it all connected and assembled?

[royal forge]

PSU starts

Then shuts down

Hold on

Single link

[hard drift]

show a birds eye view of your motherboard

[modest moss]

are you sure the psu is actually shutting down?

it's a corsair rmx right?

their fans don't spin 24/7

[deep sapphire]

god I feel bad for Aoi

[modest moss]

mine goes on and off

[deep sapphire]

send me a gofundme

I'll donate

[modest moss]

shit man I don't turn a build on until everything is connected so idk

[royal forge]

I have the connectors to CPU, Mobo and sys fans

This SHOULD be working. Since its technically all connected

This is a valid build

[hard drift]

one of the top cables looks loose but that could be pov

also make sure eco mode on the psu is off if it has it

[deep sapphire]

does the mobo have a diagnostic mode

[modest moss]

so cpu fans aren't spinning?

[deep sapphire]

reseat your ram

that is one of the largest culprits of a system not booting

[royal forge]

Mobo has button

[deep sapphire]

was this system delivered to you

or did you build it

[hard drift]

they built it

[modest moss]

my boy here looks kinda drunk

[hard drift]

that's what i was talking about 😭

plus it shouldn't matter for those

[outer sand]

Is there a 'right time' when building a PC?

[hard drift]

but just incase

[outer sand]

How do you guys determine if It's the 'right time' to upgrade

[royal forge]

Reseatin cables

[hard drift]

depends on the person

[outer sand]

I built my PC in 2015, wondering, thinking of upgrading soon, to a PC that can play XIV with stable 60 fps, record and stream at the same time

[hard drift]

some people it's when they can upgrade for 2x the performance at the same price, some it's when it dies, some it's when they see new shiny things lol

[deep sapphire]

wait

yeah you put the 4 pin in wrong

[outer sand]

but looking at XIV will upgrade their requirements soon in around 7.0, wondering if I should wait for that, or just upgrade as soon as I see a good price for a GPU

[hard drift]

it won't be a huge upgrade

it literally isn't going to be shit for an upgrade lmao

[outer sand]

cause I rarely play other VG than XIV, SF5 and Tekken 7, will be SF6 soon

[hard drift]

ps4 is still supported

and will still be supported then

[outer sand]

ic ic

[hard drift]

all recent cards should be able to play stable 60 pretty much for ffxiv

[royal forge]

OK

Apparently i was pressing the Q flash

Thats worse

[hard drift]

😭 i want to laugh so bad

[void dove]

[modest moss]

fucking lol

[void dove]

read, the, manual

RTFM

😛

[royal forge]

Cuz the reset button aint startin

[hard drift]

manuals are for pussies

[modest moss]

shit not laughing at you @outer sand

that was at Aoi

[void dove]

also for ppl who press the actual power button, not qflash button 😛

[royal forge]

But im pressin this button

[deep sapphire]

that isnt a power button

[hard drift]

😭

[deep sapphire]

just install the front panel

otherwise you can jump the leads with a screwdriver

[royal forge]

I tried jumping it

No joy

[hard drift]

oh no, aoi is going to struggle lmao it's one of those stupid bundle in the plastic headers

[deep sapphire]

why cant you install the front panel

those come on all ASUS boards

I find them handy

[hard drift]

i fucking despise them

they're trash

[deep sapphire]

it beats struggling to get them on

[hard drift]

i don't struggle getting them on lol, it's annoying to figure out which one goes where but it's easy once figured out

[modest moss]

this is why I actually build the whole thing before switching it on

[deep sapphire]

https://i.redd.it/4ac77eq5ykv11.jpg

[modest moss]

I just assume it'll work

[deep sapphire]

remember letters face out

dont need too, just make sure letters face out

[modest moss]

Aoi, can you just pay someone local to build this for you

I do not have a good feeling about this

he has no data on there

[hard drift]

how did people not see this coming

[deep sapphire]

just blow it up and buy a truck

[royal forge]

Not starting at all

[deep sapphire]

okay stupid question

on the back of the PSU

does it have a kill switch

and is it set to the correct voltage

im assuming you use 220/240v

[modest moss]

👀

[royal forge]

Just a single on off

[deep sapphire]

okay is it set to I and not O

[royal forge]

Im not that stupid

Yet

[deep sapphire]

not saying you are stupid, just sometimes people overthink problems when its something really simple

[hard drift]

[modest moss]

whose idea was it to let Aoi build a pc anyway

[deep sapphire]

like buying AMD

[modest moss]

why the fuck have we got sucked into this yet again

[hard drift]

i'm sorry i'm not a jaded pc buyer

[modest moss]

Nhadala I blame you mate

[real edge]

most of the pc repair shops I visited did not do anything strange, cause I watched them do their work in front of me

[deep sapphire]

hey we all gotta learn eventually

[hard drift]

you didn't learn obviously lmao

[deep sapphire]

yeah I did, I learned never to buy AMD again

[hard drift]

you went based on something from many moons ago

[royal forge]

Lemme put it all in

[deep sapphire]

I got my chevy back

[royal forge]

Lemme put everytbin in the case

[real edge]

I've had an amd cpu since the release of the 2700x and I've never had issues with it or the platform

[deep sapphire]

mfw 6700K is faster in gaming

[real edge]

I got a 5800x3d

[hard drift]

too bad my 3700x wipes the floor with it

[deep sapphire]

I'd hope so

thing is a war relic

[real edge]

back when intel just kept rehashing haswell until the end of time until competition forced them to put more cores in their cpus

[hard drift]

oh no hank, it doesn't look so good

another game

[deep sapphire]

cherry picked 2 whole games

🥱

Zen 1 was junk

[hard drift]

nah, all the games it has show amd winning lol

[deep sapphire]

whatever you say pal

🥱

yeah remember when AMD lied about having 8 cores and got a class action lawsuit that almost bankrupted the company

thanks for the 30 bucks though

[modest moss]

did you build it yet?

well, install it

[real edge]

nope, im waiting for my cooler to arrive

the stock one is not good enough for it

[hard drift]

https://youtu.be/LCV9yyD8X6M it trades blows and when amd wins, it wins by a bigger margin than intel

[deep sapphire]

oh so now it trades

[jaunty light]

Stocks fine with pbo off

[deep sapphire]

you said earlier AMD won them all

[hard drift]

that was another video

i used a more reputable video than some random person lol

[deep sapphire]

does Japan have orange julius

[jaunty light]

If you enable pbo even with high end water itll hit 90c

Probably

[deep sapphire]

yes

DQ is a MN company

I'd hope so

[real edge]

zen 1 was ryzen 1xxx which was good value for money due to the cores but it did not have great performance

[deep sapphire]

Ryzen 2000 was still Zen 1

it was Zen 1+

[jaunty light]

Ye

[deep sapphire]

Zen 2 was 3000

Ryzen 2000 mostly addressed the poor memory latency issues and shrunk the die by 2mm

[jaunty light]

1000 was decent but rough, 2000 better, 3k is wben ryzen was mostly viable, and 5k 7k are the mature-dont-need-intel chips

[deep sapphire]

it was literally called zen 1+

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen%2B

oh

[jaunty light]

2b?

[deep sapphire]

you would

[jaunty light]

[modest moss]

welp, good luck with Aoi's build, I'm off to bed

[deep sapphire]

gn bb

[modest moss]

[deep sapphire]

I wanna know, does the mobo light up

[real edge]

ram needs more force than expected to install

I ran into that problem myself

[deep sapphire]

I mean its a Z series chipset, you'd think it'd have diagnostic LEDs or something

[real edge]

where only one ram was recognized and I couldn't figure out why

[deep sapphire]

thats what I mentioned earlier

reseat the ram

[real edge]

turns out I had to push it in more

ye

I was afraid I'd break it so I did not push it too much

[hard drift]

lmao imagine

dumbest idea ever, users would just hack it same way tesla users had their cars hacked to unlock the performance

https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/22/intel_reveals_paid_xeon_features/#:~:text=The Intel On Demand features users can pay,that is designed for telecom applications. More items LMFAO IT BEGINS

@deep sapphire this is who you shill for

[deep sapphire]

fuckin right I do

[hard drift]

subscription performance is super anti consumer, hank hates consumers confirmed

[real edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qACIqmP8xgw

[deep sapphire]

you're the one who hates retail

[hard drift]

retail is ass lmao

go work it

[deep sapphire]

anti consumer ass

I did

for many years

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQTijWHTnLQ

[hard drift]

and you know, it's horrible

[deep sapphire]

everyone starts from retail

gotta work your way up the ladder

[hard drift]

retail or food 😭

i don't miss the days of having hot coffee thrown at me 🙏

[deep sapphire]

change my oil

its easy

most of the time

some cars are a pain and have dust shields and shit

[royal forge]

Ok, who is supposed to supply the screws for connecting GPU to the case

Case or gpu

[sharp star]

case

why

[deep sapphire]

oh no

oh nvm those

I thought you meant the stand offs for a sec

[hard drift]

beyer has received my headphones now i wait

[royal forge]

Confirming

[potent arrow]

Zzzzz

[sly elk]

i don't shill for either, but AMD and intel are companies that do a lot of cool stuff and hire a lot of americans 😄 and.. well, lots of people elsewhere, but still!

murica!

[sly elk]

fancy but that looks hella tedius

does the lube smell?

[potent arrow]

No?

its silicone based iirc

[odd sand]

As we discussed tho, these aren't consumer chips so it's not really relevant /s

[potent arrow]

ive done hundreds

I lube and film them allll

like if I am allowed to say one super like keyboard elitist thing

the bare minimum should be to lube a switch on any keyboard

Makes a huge difference

[odd sand]

Best is either when watching/listening to a show, or when chatting with others to pass the time. It's pretty brain-turn-off after awhile bc its repetitive

Where does the film go, I've only done lubing

[sly elk]

maybe with cherry switches? but the kalihs are pretty darn smooth to me

maybe if they're tactile it ehlps?

idk about your zsa, but it's pretty easy to get the switches off my dygma

do you have the tool to pull them off? it helps

oh sweet

didn't know the zsa came with anything lol

!!

[potent arrow]

very much yes

[potent arrow]

still will make a difference

[potent arrow]

between the top and the bottom housing

[sly elk]

oh ok

[potent arrow]

only needed if there is even slight play

it reduces spring ping, rattlness, smoothness etc

[sly elk]

my dygma didn't come with replacement keycaps but it came with a little sampler kit of switches

and a couple extra keycaps

[sly elk]

and a set of o-rings

[odd sand]

They make good switches as well: https://prevailkeyco.com/

[potent arrow]

i mean lubing for all switches are the same

[sly elk]

and the puller tool

LOL

right someone using kalih lube in very naughty ways

https://tenor.com/view/anime-eyebrows-hey-gif-10311326

[odd sand]

I've got Epsilon switches which are 45-68g

[potent arrow]

just get gpl 205

[sly elk]

messing with the sample switches

[potent arrow]

that is the good shit

[odd sand]

Stabs was the most annoying part

[sly elk]

my goodness cherry browns are scratchy af

[potent arrow]

Stabs I hate because Im torn on two brands now

[sly elk]

and this is where the split keyboards are nice. the only place i have stabilizers is on the shift keys 😄

[sly elk]

kalih speed bronze omg

[potent arrow]

I use this for the springs

Which btw are dual stage

Really does change how the top and bottom end sounds like

[sly elk]

lol

i like linears

but i can understand why people like clicky switches

[potent arrow]

I prefer tactiles

Outgrew my clicky stage

[royal forge]

If i dont post anything in the next 10 minutes

It has probably exploded and isekai-ed me

@tame fulcrum TAKE MY BAD LUCK

[sly elk]

that's a neat looking gpu

have fun with the new rig!

[royal forge]

I'M FUCKING CRYING

[real edge]

maybe in 4-5 years

congrats aoi

also, beeg cooler

[sly elk]

https://scandyna.dk/en/shop/wifi-speakers/micropod-air/ these are cute

too bad all the neat colors are sold out

not that i'd buy them anyway

[sly elk]

Ultra Durable

congrats! Here's to a much much more reliable rig ^^

and that video card looks EVEN COOLER turned on!

[real edge]

reminder to activate XMP in the bios

[sly elk]

i'd make sure the machine runs reliably first

[real edge]

win 11 still has bugs and issues that I am not personally comfortable with

im waiting until they are fully ironed out

personal suggestion would be to stick with win10 until you have no choice

or security starts to become a big issue due to age

[real edge]

aoi has now built more pcs than me, physically

[sly elk]

#3 sounds like a deal killer to me

[real edge]

i really should do this myself, it feels silly how I know so much about pcs and tech but have never installed a cpu into my pc before

it was just easier to grab my friend and let him do everything for free or 20$(for full rebuilds)

I'd also have to get screwdrivers cause I have none

[deep sapphire]

you can get a universal one for 10 bucks

LOL

that fucker is like 70 bucks isnt it

no thanks I'll use my impact driver

LMAO

[royal forge]

CELEBRATION CAKKKE

Thanks

Phew

Tired

XIV

[real edge]

i looked up screwdrivers on my price assessment site and there were 11k results

[deep sapphire]

what is that junk

[royal forge]

Is display port or hdmi better

[deep sapphire]

not using Klein

[real edge]

DP

[royal forge]

Ok

[real edge]

go to your monitor settings on windows and up the refresh rate as high as it can go

[potent arrow]

Sprinngsss

[deep sapphire]

https://www.amazon.com/Klein-Tools-32717-Screwdriver-Multi-Function/dp/B08DRVM38X?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

[real edge]

just right click anywhere on your desktop and click display settings

[deep sapphire]

OH YA YA

[real edge]

https://www.bestprice.gr/cat/3530/katsavidia-xeiros.html?qo=screwdrivers&qid=9Tehr5FccHz&from=search meanwhile

10708 results

[deep sapphire]

https://www.bestprice.gr/item/2155434322/milwaukee-m12-fid-0.html

here

[real edge]

180euro

no ty

[vague heart]

which type of mechanical key would you recommend for fps and mmorpgs

[deep sapphire]

ITS ALIVE

[real edge]

I would appreciate any help that anyone can give with choosing a screwdriver or set of from those 11k results, idk how to narrow it down or what to look for

[royal forge]

Im no expert

But wouldnt adjustable screw heads/changable ones be good?

[jaunty light]

Vessel JIS

[potent arrow]

That's as far as I go for tonight

[real edge]

doesn't exist here

[deep sapphire]

shut up weeb

[deep sapphire]

just get a basic Stanley one

they all use the same phillips head screws so you dont need anything fancy

[real edge]

we're down to 1000 results

progress

[deep sapphire]

dont you have any local hardware stores?

just go to one of those

[modern iris]

anybody know alot about computers?

[real edge]

most regulars here do

just ask

[royal forge]

Depends

if ur looking for someone to break one

im ur man

[modern iris]

woah

[royal forge]

also @modest moss my PC is up and running

[modern iris]

dont ask why the text is so small, but does that second drive affect how my pc runs in a bad way if almost full

the local disk (d) thing

[real edge]

the only things a disk affects is the things installed on it

[modern iris]

god damnit then why is my pc so laggy

[real edge]

if you install a game on a HDD it will have slower loading than an SSD for instance

laggy doing what

what are your pc specs

[modern iris]

playing a game or texting

how do i check the specs

[inland mauve]

keep the Windows key pressed and hit the R button

a little window will pop up called "Run" with a textbox in it

in that text box, type "dxdiag" and hit the Enter key

you will then see a new window with a bunch of tabs at the top

the "System" tab is the default tab and wills how you stuff like your CPU and RAM

next to that are a number of "Display" and "Sound" tabs

the first "Display" tab should contain your GPU

[modern iris]

windows cant find dxdlag

[inland mauve]

diag, not dlag

[inland mauve]

and what about the "System" tab?

[real edge]

blur out your email

[modern iris]

oh hold on

what email

[inland mauve]

upper left corner

[real edge]

there was a gmail in your screenshot

[sly elk]

it looks lovely

[inland mauve]

I'll crop your Dxdiag screenshots for you

[modern iris]

oh thanks

[modern iris]

sorry the game i needs has to have the right display size in order to wwork

[paper tusk]

can also win+shift+S to do a region screenshot

[sly elk]

3440x1440 and not super ultrawide yea? :\

[inland mauve]

I don't know how powerful the 1650 Super is but I don't think it's a very good GPU

[modern iris]

i mean its been working for me for 2 years

[inland mauve]

however if your PC has bad performance all the time then it's not just the GPU

[modern iris]

yeah

[real edge]

the pc is dated, it will not run current games very well, only old ones or indie titles

[modern iris]

but i payed alot for it tho

[real edge]

when

[paper tusk]

1650 super is a carryover gpu during rtx 2xxx series as a cheap way to get rid of old cards. it's not bad but it's not good compared to the current average setup

[modern iris]

like a couple years ago

[real edge]

if they sold you this shit at a premium 2 years ago then you got scammed

[modern iris]

well it was 1k or something

[real edge]

maybe that was a tad too harsh

[modern iris]

well heres the issue

its been working fine and all that

around a month ago it started being bad

[inland mauve]

I wonder if it got infected

[real edge]

the cpu is 10 years old

[modern iris]

is it?

[real edge]

to give you an idea

[inland mauve]

oh it might just be aging then

[modern iris]

jeez

[real edge]

you got scammed for sure

[modern iris]

so would it be better to trash it or just replace some parts

[real edge]

sell it and build a new one would be my recommendation

[paper tusk]

would probaby be better to replace because 3770 is ddr3 era. so there's no upgrade path

[modern iris]

heres the issue i only have 500 to spend and i dont know if that 500 would get me a better pc

[inland mauve]

for that socket there isn't much better than the 3770, only the 3770K as far as I can tell

[real edge]

selling that old thing should net you some

more

[modern iris]

yeah but would 500 get me a betetr pc

[real edge]

if we stretch it yes, anythings better than that at this point

[inland mauve]

the problem is that to get a better CPU you need a new motherboard, and that means you would also need to replace a bunch of other parts

[real edge]

ddr4 ram is super cheap

old gen used is also cheap

[modern iris]

well wanna find me a pc for 500 so i dont get scammed

[real edge]

you have to build it yourself if you want one

[inland mauve]

you could recycle the GPU for now and replace it at a later date

[modern iris]

damnit

ive never built a pc so what are the parts im supposed to buy

this one is a prebuilt btw

[inland mauve]

building your own PC is a big commitment

and very scary your first time

[modern iris]

well my dad can build it

[inland mauve]

but there are a lot of tutorials and video guides on the internet

and after you do it once, it gets much easier the next time

[modern iris]

ok what parts should i ask him to get

or could u guys find me some, id really apreciate it

[inland mauve]

https://www.logicalincrements.com/

[modern iris]

oh thanks

[inland mauve]

here's the website I used to build my PC

it gives a good idea of what parts are available right now, and what you're looking at for a PC in a certain power and price class

take this one for example

can upgrade to 8GB DDR4 without too much extra cost, and probably even beyond that

and if you reuse your current PC case you don't even need to buy a new one

[modern iris]

would this be better then the current one i have its like an i7 3770

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i3-12100f-core-i3-12th-gen/p/N82E16819118357?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-Logical+Increments&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-Logical+Increments&utm_source=afc-Logical+Increments&AFFID=2983102&AFFNAME=Logical+Increments&ACRID=1&ASUBID=&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.logicalincrements.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2983102&ranSiteID=tCdAnHNE6xQ-efqY6O4d6UgvNvMiOZfnKw

[inland mauve]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770-vs-Intel-Core-i3-12100F/1979vs4125

here's a benchmark comparing the two

their CPUs that is

the CPU in this one is indeed significantly better

[real edge]

please do not use userbenchmark

its trash

[modern iris]

oh

[paper tusk]

that's the current value king cpu (12100F). the cooler is cringe but the budget isn't exactly in the position to be choosy

[real edge]

go to youtube and find benchmarks there

[inland mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-dogs-forgive-me-sad-please-gif-16168770

[modern iris]

would it be better then the i7 3770

[inland mauve]

I just googled

[real edge]

yeah

they take advantage of google

algorythm

[modern iris]

ok so thays my plan

[real edge]

sadly

[modern iris]

if i do sell it how much u think it s worth

this pc

[real edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6JkJH2

entry level gaming pc

600$

[modern iris]

if i bought on e for 1100 would it be better

a pc

[paper tusk]

might need a case though with that list since dell front panel plug from (that era) is kinda jank (usb plugs are normal)

[modern iris]

oh no im on this site

[real edge]

damn can I sell my old haswell and 1070 for 1k dollars

that would be the dream

lol

well either way yes ofc

building it yourself will always be better value than a prebuilt

by nature

[modern iris]

the one that says great is the one i want

[real edge]

since for the prebuild ud be payin for the labor and assembly as well

[modern iris]

are those parts good

[real edge]

im not sure I would go for intel at that price point but

everything else looks good

[modern iris]

intel

like what

whats the one thing that doesnt look good or youd change, the intel thing

[real edge]

that costs

320$

here is my 320$

[paper tusk]

if i had a 600 buckazoid budget might look at this throw together and pray the ssd isn't shit https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pZFsC6

[real edge]

5700x better value

and am4 motherboards are cheaper by nature

for the 320$

[paper tusk]

if gpu wasn't a factor yeah would upgrade that (cpu) first thing

this is just throw my brain into a blender and see what pours out

[real edge]

200$ for that performance is a steal

[modern iris]

so keep everything else the same but change the cpu to a 5700x and motherboard to am4

thats what ur saying

[real edge]

need am4 motherboard

but yes everything else looks ok, make sure you grab 16gigs of ram

not 8

its cheap nowdays

[modern iris]

oh ok

[real edge]

just make sure the store flashes you the latest bios

on the motherboard

[modern iris]

lemme make a cart

[real edge]

altho if you want a 1000$ pc I can make you one on pcpartpicker

[modern iris]

id trust you

so pls

[real edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RkHGRv

[real edge]

#technology-discussion message

Just make sure to tell the store you buy the motherboard from to flash the latest bios

im not a big fan of the motherboard personally but I had to cut costs somewhere

[modern iris]

huh ok

oh well atleast i can play on my switch

[real edge]

I changed it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gKshJM

this is a 1000$ pc

just buy this and tell your local hardware shop to build it for you if you cannot do it yourself or do not know someone

[real edge]

did you go to the display settings to set the refresh rate to the maximum?

[royal forge]

not yet

resting a bit

downloading

and setting up

[modern iris]

@real edge are these good specs for 900

[real edge]

wheres the gpu

ahh I see now

no

its old

[royal forge]

i set it to overclock modce

i GUESS that works

[real edge]

900$ for that is bs

just buy what I gave you there

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gKshJM

[royal forge]

hmmm

i cant seem to change the refresh rate

[real edge]

its in advanced display settings

here

right click anywhere on your desktop and it will bring up display settings

scroll down on advanced display settings

[royal forge]

yep

got it

thanks bud

[real edge]

[glossy ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7gxbt6/msi-b550-a-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-a-pro

Do you think I'll be able to get a discount on this MB or should I just bite the bullet and buy it now?

[earnest sedge]

my pc is arriving today

[lost python]

that seems pretty expensive given that the B550 mag tomahawk has been available for like 130-140 before

[glossy ravine]

Pog

[glossy ravine]

It's the cheapest MB I can find that works with everything

[real edge]

wdym by works with everything

you can flash the latest bios on a b450 board and it will work

[glossy timber]

Ah yes 239 thousand hz

My favourite

[earnest sedge]

Its here

[glossy ravine]

[earnest sedge]

Anything I should beware?

Checking rn if the ram are input correctly

[bitter girder]

@tame fulcrum my MacBook should be available to pick up later on tomorrow place your bets on what’s gonna happen to it

@dull garnet @modest moss

[dull garnet]

Everything will be daijobu

[paper tusk]

looks fine. should have been a muted click like noise when driving the ram home. I can't see the eps cable though

Im doing a double take on the m2 ssd though

might just be my imagination if ther's a bend nevermind it's a screwless retention thing

io shield i can see light and not sure if that's by design

[modest moss]

@royal forge gj, now do the refresh and xmp things

@bitter girder it won't be there

[earnest sedge]

I need something to elevate it frpm the floor cause i have a cat

[hard drift]

it won't matter for fur

[dull garnet]

is that a glass front panel i see

[hard drift]

fur is light enough it'll float in the air

[dull garnet]

[earnest sedge]

yup

[bitter girder]

[dull garnet]

[royal forge]

Phew. Aite

[hard drift]

https://twitter.com/msigaming/status/1595650709256810496?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1595650709256810496|twgr^5fadf8f86a67e286c8112a50358821a3cc098903|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvideocardz.com%2Fnewz%2Fmsi-and-lg-announce-ultra-wide-240-hz-oled-gaming-monitors @tame fulcrum

MSI Gaming (@msigaming)

The world's FIRST super ultra-wide curved gaming monitor, with a 240Hz QD-OLED panel, is out there to ensure you enjoy a viewing experience far better than anything you’ve had before. Get ready for CES2023 for the debut of our Project 491C. #MSIxCES2023 #InnovationAward

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[glossy ravine]

Question.

So my MB has 4 ram slots.

Can I upgrade to 32 GB of RAM by using the other 2 unused slots?

[real edge]

why wouldn't you be able to?

just make sure the other ram has the same

speed and timings

[glossy ravine]

Okay. Just double checking.

[paper tusk]

the extra 2 sticks can have different speed but it might be reduced (on all 4) on amd systems because of jank. timing is more complicated/annoying

generally it'll reduce to the lowest rated speed of the 2 pairs (unless manually overclocked/xmp'ed)

[royal forge]

does anyone know if Office 2021 or 2019 is a lifelong thing or a subscruption thing

[dull garnet]

OfficeRTool

[royal forge]

i know i know

im just curious about which to go for

which ver

[real edge]

there are free, open source alternatives

no need to buy them

[modest moss]

hell, there's a free online version of MS Office that's fine for the average user

[royal forge]

i can get 2019 or 2021 for free

so..

i mean

[dull garnet]

get the newer ig

xd

[royal forge]

lmao

i was just worried that it would be a "surprise it's a monthly sub"

[jaunty light]

Sub, o365

[hard drift]

i can finally upgrade to 11 but do i do it or not

[dull garnet]

don't do it, your pc will explode

[hard drift]

🙏

[dull garnet]

i use 11

[hard drift]

i guess i'll do it

[royal forge]

thanks bud

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/panicking-gif-22262539

[hard drift]

literally me lmao

windows updates always break something 😭

lets see what it breaks

[jaunty light]

You can still buy the home versions essentially but its probably $300

[kindred brook]

I upgraded to 11

now my titanfall 2 doesn;'t work

[dull garnet]

owned

[sly walrus]

go back

[kindred brook]

IM GOING BACK

[hard drift]

lmao why?

[kindred brook]

said it was missing some dll file

or something

[hard drift]

just repair the game

[kindred brook]

tried

[hard drift]

obviously not hard enough

my buddy doesn't have any problems with it on 11

[bitter girder]

You’re missing visual studio stuff

[dull garnet]

yeah

nub

[kindred brook]

tried installing that too

[bitter girder]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170

[dull garnet]

may need to install from different years because microsoft 🤡

[bitter girder]

Tfw a bloated os doesn’t have their own stuff built in

[dull garnet]

luckily fitgirl repacks provide all that shiz so i'm well equipped

[dull garnet]

its funny that it can't just pull the file by itself

stupidest os

[bitter girder]

Windows

Looks like they don’t have my MacBook today

If I don’t get it tomorrow I am raising absolute hell

[dull garnet]

bury jobs for a second time

[bitter girder]

The Apple Store massacre

[hard drift]

[dull garnet]

its okay he lives in wales

not america

[hard drift]

[dull garnet]

[bitter girder]

I think the most deadly thing we have in the uk is a soda can

Because they get messy if you shake them

Chad

[dull garnet]

THIS!!! I was having issues launching Titanfall 2 but after downloading the 2013 c++ thing it opened right up!

called it

[bitter girder]

Lol

[dull garnet]

fuckin 2013 distributable

[bitter girder]

Microsoft moment

[kindred brook]

Alright

going to try this one more time

[bitter girder]

I’m so pissed off im frying 6 egg and eating them

[dull garnet]

proteins

[bitter girder]

They’ve just passed their best before so I might as well just eat loads

[odd sand]

Not gonna have my thanksgiving with my parents until next week, so today I get to buy a cornish hen and pretend its turkey /s

[kindred brook]

Yup

They couldn't get it to work either ice

Pepe hands

Oh well

[dull garnet]

did you read the thread or nah

[kindred brook]

Yes

[bitter girder]

Id eat that as a snack before bed

[hard drift]

i would totally do this

[kindred brook]

I tried

tried repairing the game as well

OMG

IT WORKED

I FIXED THE EA CLIENT

ORIGIN

AND IT WORK

ORIGIN HAD TO UPDATE

[hard drift]

[kindred brook]

why would origin

be cock blocking it

also I had to update origin by right clicking origin and making sure its always up to date before it loads

man wtf

can't login to respawn servers

[dull garnet]

i thought they did something like that for a bit

[kindred brook]

why are they even allowing this game

to be sold

I just want to play horde mode with my friends

well thanks for helping me run it

stupid ea origin

[dull garnet]

https://twitter.com/save_titanfall/status/1474197662530482176?s=20&t=Il5zdGu3yIVKQOU_lU8f_w

SaveTitanfall (@save_titanfall)

Titanfall 2 custom servers have been released, exclusively for PC. Thanks to BobTheBob and all other contributors for making this possible, and for doing what Respawn couldn't.
If you want to play Titanfall 2 online on PC again, check out this link:
https://t.co/pGQPsxP48m

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[bitter girder]

Eggs are so god damn good

Oh yeah it’s thanks giving

Glad I’m not American so I don’t have to waste money on a turkey

[dull garnet]

only in cringe countries

[bitter girder]

Ah Black Friday

I remember throwing a kid across 10 isles because it was in the way of that football game I wanted but waited for Black Friday because it was £2 off

[modest moss]

Lewis

what day is it

shopping day

what did wife buy me

AW YEAH

[bitter girder]

YESSSS

at least someone got something today

[modest moss]

tesco is the name of the shop

she did not buy me a shop

[bitter girder]

He got a tescos

Lucky bastard

[modest moss]

yes I own a supermarket now

[royal forge]

damn

all i got was an asda

what the fuck

[modest moss]

aoi is xmp on

[royal forge]

yes

[modest moss]

and refresh rate max

[royal forge]

yes

[bitter girder]

Gonna 1 up shue by getting an m&s

[modest moss]

are you getting 300 fps in limsa

[royal forge]

i've not even downloaded XIV yet

LMAO

[bitter girder]

Tesco competitor

[modest moss]

asda is another chain

[dull garnet]

hardly

[bitter girder]

Once owned by Walmart funny enough

[royal forge]

ASDA is budget tesco

which is really saying something

[modest moss]

tesco isn't budget

tesco is like

[royal forge]

well...

it ain't M&S

[modest moss]

baseline, mid level

[bitter girder]

A place of worship in the northern part of the uk

[modest moss]

yes m&s isn't a supermarket

[bitter girder]

Wait that’s the job centre

[modest moss]

m&s is a clothes shop with a food hall

[royal forge]

p great food hall tho

[bitter girder]

Some good stuff in there too

[modest moss]

but not comparable

[royal forge]

wait, just to confirm, I just need to toggle XMP on right

[modest moss]

it's a luxury store

[royal forge]

ok good.

[modest moss]

get cpu-z innit

[bitter girder]

Sudden urge to go Tesco

I want those caramel tarts

[royal forge]

I always wanted to get M&S catering

And like.. eat all of it myself

Just fuckin inhale

[modest moss]

you can't now

you're too poor

[bitter girder]

Come uk and we can get shue and dickhead @dull garnet and we can go m&s

[modest moss]

just render anime tiddies and don't eat

[dull garnet]

🥲

[bitter girder]

🤪

[royal forge]

ok

[modest moss]

imagine when aoi is a specialist and comes here and works private and just lives on m&s

decadent bastard

[bitter girder]

Now I’m down bad

[royal forge]

Hey now

How about Waitrose

[dull garnet]

bro what is that skin texture

🤢

[royal forge]

workin on it

there's something fucky with the shadows

[royal forge]

what do you wanna see?

Took me 5 min

Rather than the usual hour

holy shit

LMAO

that model is from Dissidia

note the face lookin ehhhhh

[modest moss]

will show if your ram is running at the right speed

[bitter girder]

Actually depresses me that companies are like this

[royal forge]

hm

wait

[bitter girder]

Open task manager

And look in performance

And click of your memory

[bitter girder]

3600mhz

[royal forge]

i just clicked XMP right?

ye

thats odd

[bitter girder]

It’s working

[royal forge]

oh is it?

[bitter girder]

Yeah it doesn’t run at 3600mhz constantly

[royal forge]

ah..

i see

gotcha2

[dull garnet]

no it isn't

dual data rate

xd

[potent arrow]

⚰️

[odd sand]

@tame fulcrum Am I reading it correctly that 22H2 for Win11 enforces secureboot now, so you can't use registry tweaks around it anymore?

[paper tusk]

numbered versions of office are usually perceptual license. office microsoft 365 is subscription based

[kindred brook]

is 3600

a big diff

from 3200

[dull garnet]

no

[paper tusk]

it might for install but I have 22h2 without secureboot/tpm no problem

and there's always ways around that little problem if you insist on win 11

[odd sand]

Yeah it seems like for most ppl the issue will just be the TPM and you can buy one for like $15

[paper tusk]

or use fTPM

[odd sand]

Still annoying bc the average user isn't going to want to open their PC and connect that

I heard about the software tpm, but I wasn't sure if that worked for everyone

[paper tusk]

still kinda bullshit tier since the entire thing depends on everything being signed code. including installing windows