technology-discussion

[sly elk]

I am digging the vibe

also for the microphone connoisseur here, they appear to have an sm7b lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/xm9zmf/my_dad_was_throwing_away_the_monitor_and_keyboard/
aw I used to have one of these ages ago. nice.

[jaunty light]

finally someone that has plants that doesnt just have a plant because their desk is sterile all white

that mousepad looks god awful to use however

[sly elk]

i wonder if they make those for someone over like 5'7

i've never sat in a chair like that but from the looks the headrest would probably reach my shoulders

[jaunty light]

@tame fulcrum https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B9H572LC/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?smid=A3LCG5OIQ82SQD&psc=1 buy me dis

[sly elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJWdQmTDxjc

[sly elk]

Yep. Honda motors until about 2003 or so all had distributors.

the fuck

sounds like toyota isn't the one stuck in the ice age

[sly elk]

i still don't like the side buttons but i like the big flat screen on the apple watch ultra lol

[agile roost]

might have to cop the 4080

what an absolute unit

[hard drift]

make sure you get the 16gb not the 12

[sly elk]

aw come on now, get a 4090

[agile roost]

4090 is overkill

yeah 16 of course

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-the-matter-chicken-wuss-are-you-scared-whats-the-problem-gif-16501281

[hard drift]

the 12gb is literally just a 4070 branded as an 80 class card so they can overprice it

[sly elk]

ha

[agile roost]

yeah that's what i've been reading

[sly elk]

if I were gonna be evil

I'd make the 70 and lower look really lame

[hard drift]

it just takes looking at the specs 😭

[sly elk]

maybe even use a blower heatsink setup

then forbid the AIOs from deviating from the same

no RGB on any 70 or below

[agile roost]

plus new intel chip soon

[dull garnet]

Seeing 3090 at £699 now

[odd sand]

why are the 3090s specifically dropping like a rock?

[modest moss]

I'd assume because the people rich enough to buy a 3090 at the high end prices will just buy a 4090

[hard drift]

because it's outperformed by a "4070" now and it won't get dlss 3

not to mention the powerdraw of the "4070" vs a 3090/3090ti

[modest moss]

when you say "4070" do you mean 4080 12gb?

[hard drift]

yeah, it's stupid for it to be called a 4080

if it was a smaller difference it'd be a 4080 similar to the 12gb vs the 10gb which was like 3% core count or whatever. but the massive difference between 12/16gb versions is obviously just them calling it an 80 class gpu for profit

[dull garnet]

That's 699 ex mining cards

:p

Still reckon that's a decent price

[modest moss]

CEX have 3090s at £770, that'll have a 2 year warranty

[dull garnet]

O rly

Eeesh why the FE so much more

[hard drift]

i mean for those that would rather have performance than 100% render scale visuals, it's amazing not to mention powerdraw is cut back quite a bit using it

i mean esports titles are limited by cpu generally speaking so it's pointless anyways

i don't think it'll be gimmicky, i think it won't be good for competitive things like that though especially when they're already getting like 300+ in esports titles

amd is 100% going to lose for raytracing

there's 0 chance of them gaining an edge over nvidia, the place they'll likely win is raw rasterization

[sly elk]

I wanna wire the ignition button in my Jeep up to The Clapper

Wouldn’t that be such an appropriate way to start a Jeep lol

[odd sand]

So the 3090 aged like milk huh

[hard drift]

i mean 30 series aged like milk especially once mid-low end releases for 40 series lol

[odd sand]

We'll see. Not fond of these 4080 shenanigans where they're labeling 60 and 70 series dies as 80

[hard drift]

they haven't labeled 60 series as 80 class yet lol

only 70 so far 🙏

[odd sand]

WAN show was saying based on nvidia's normal labeling scheme, the 4080 12gb was similar to previous gens 60

[hard drift]

in what sense???

they must be referring to the card being 192 bit or something because it's not 60 class branded as 80 for sure 🤨

[odd sand]

Oh right the 192bit is fucking wild considering the 3080 had 320/384bit

192bit is the bandwidth you normally see on like 50 series cards

[hard drift]

i mean, 60 class had it lol

also the 16gb isn't much better lol, 256 bit

[odd sand]

I think they were talking about the die size comparison between the announced SKUs

But yes also the memory bandwidth

I have a feeling 40 series is gonna be the 20 series all over again other than the 4090

[hard drift]

eh probably lol

lol base???

pfft highly doubt 1599

[odd sand]

They can only do this so many gens before they basically erode their own market as ppl abandon PC gaming then for consoles

[sly elk]

maybe that's the whole point

PCs are a terrible platform if you want control

[odd sand]

1080p gaming 4ever I guess if you want to afford PC gaming now

[modest moss]

affordable pc gaming isn't even 1080p, it's a steam deck

[odd sand]

Waifu z790 pls

[jaunty light]

Waifu whatevertheshit next gen ryzen is pls

[jaunty light]

Asus really out here selling ROG gamer cables

https://a.co/d/3L8hey4

[odd sand]

Made from the tears of real orphans for increased signal strength

[kindred brook]

https://i.redd.it/gmsbrok6jup91.jpg

damn

she cute af

[jaunty light]

[sly elk]

wtf lol

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803822797780.html

Oh thank you ASUS. I’m fully endorsing whatever the heck is going on with this generation of tech. Now I want to see exactly how degenerate companies will go.

[sly elk]

lol

this stuff makes me nostalgic for the 90s

[jaunty light]

aw shit bro

hol up gonna go to gskill and ask them to make a tridentz royal waifu

[sharp star]

https://imgur.com/a/hyUGupD international box

[kindred brook]

Lol

[royal forge]

Make a PC case with a boob pad attached to the front

put the on switch as a pressure switch under one of the boobs

the other boob is for RGB lighting

[strong tapir]

is there any ways to change game folder? like, i don't really have 50gb on my disc C

i heard about mklink, but not sure how it works and will it help

[sly walrus]

pick it up and move it, i guess

[paper tusk]

if mean ffxiv install yes you can shamelessly move it to another drive

[strong tapir]

i don't have enough space for installing

[late basalt]

Should censor that laptop

[odd sand]

That seems like a way better value than the ram or the mobo (which doesnt even have the waifu on it)

[proven spade]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-eu/geforce/rtx-remix/ so ?
how does it look like? would it be possible to mod ffxiv and get ray tracing ? is it like g pose but better ?

[inland mauve]

I don't think a third party modder could do this with FFXIV

but the devs could

Yoshida has in the past mentioned his interest in automating aspects of development with AI

the UI upscale for the PS5 update was done with AI, and then touched up by hand

and that worked out really well

[royal forge]

Why even have that function

Wont it be so distorted?

[jaunty light]

The dial thing is awkward to use

Plus why it has solar

[fair parcel]

that is strange

[jaunty light]

Jusy buy the ark

[sly elk]

lol

ice had a budget and already blew it

[jaunty light]

Credit cards are infinite money glitch

[sly elk]

ohh

monitors are always like that

[jaunty light]

Get in waiting line hell

Took 4 years from the time i remember prototype 1440p240 panels to them bring released

[sly elk]

ah I like these "iphone 14 takes amazing pictures" posts because they're always in bright daylight

[jaunty light]

Ah yes automatic HDR

Colors look wack, edge distortion

[sly elk]

it still looks like a watercolor painting in the shadows

sigh

what the hell kinda room do you use this in

I run my aw3420dw at 30% brightness

30% of the whopping 350 nits brightness

and you're here whining wanting 1000 nits

lmao

you're gonna fry your retinas

[jaunty light]

You got expensive taste, nothing will last 10 years

Youll buy dream monitor now, then 2 years something will come out eith feature

4K 240hz where

i changed monitors way too much between 2017 and 2020

from 1080 144 to 1080 240 to 1440 240 then some other 4K panel that I use as my #2 now

i just want a panel with no BLB so I can play ye olde horror games

@tame fulcrum

actually its probably worse than that on the AW because it has like 5 dimming zones on the bottom

im mega not interested in curved panels

still thinking about getting an UW to mount above my monitor but theres no good monitor mounts for that

[hard drift]

ultrawide

and yeah getting an ultrawide mount sucks main reason i don't get one

same with super ultra wide

depends, some of the monitors are way too heavy for some mounts

not enough weight support for some of them 🙏

[dull garnet]

Lmao

My Dell has a spot of ips glow and a spot of backlight bleed both in the bottom left. So obvious at night

One white, one yellow

[sly elk]

the only thing I can suggest is using bias lighting

so that you're not in a totally dark room

[hard drift]

amd releases cpus in like 1-2 days 🙏

smh

don't go for white this time

you and your damn luck smh

[jaunty light]

i found the next case for you

[hard drift]

what

[jaunty light]

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Customizable-Breathable-Sickleflow/dp/B09TL7Z2DZ?th=1

[hard drift]

i do not want a supertower smfh

[jaunty light]

but you can fit like, at least 6 radiators in there

@tame fulcrum

[hard drift]

the case weighs 65 pounds smfh

[jaunty light]

[sly elk]

large towers are a tradeoff

you trade portability for ease of service

[jaunty light]

make a small cosmos and i'll buy it

i got done with super tower life in the early 10s

time to dust off ye olde beast leans over desk and pulls back because it weighs 80 fucking pounds

[hard drift]

why would you even be looking you are on a ddr4 platform

[jaunty light]

but we want ddr5 now

[hard drift]

but ice isn't/shouldn't upgrade yet he just barely upgraded plus he went ddr4 for his upgrade path

[silk cargo]

Alright, ordered my new monitor. Grabbed the Huawei one since it had most features i was interested in, had good all around reviews and for futureproofing. for less than 450$, it was well worth it i think.

[jaunty light]

braided headphone cable in this color scheme y/n

[hard drift]

i mean future proof means nothing right now considering how quickly monitors will boom soon 🙏

[sly elk]

I'm half expecting a CHASE sign in the corner

it looks like a friggin bank lobby

[hard drift]

why are there two seafoams?

why not go for a turquoise or something for a 4th color

[jaunty light]

left and right channel

so lilac+seafoam and pink+seafoam braiding

[hard drift]

oh, i thought it was 4 colors per channel

[silk cargo]

well, meant mainly because it has freesync with g-sync compatibility. i have a nvidia card right now, but im probably switching to amd this gen, so that's why 😛

[odd sand]

How much is the white tax

[hard drift]

i mean freesync is pretty bad unless it's premium pro, the lower framerates feel like actual shit

i know from experience 😔

[silk cargo]

AMD FreeSync Premium, Nvidia G-sync Compatible so should be fine

its a 165hz HDR VA monitor as well

[hard drift]

hdr means nothing for 99% of monitors

it'll look bad usually

[silk cargo]

in 8bit content, probably. should be better in 10bit, which this one has.

[hard drift]

also since it's not premium pro, freesync will be bad with hdr enabled

[odd sand]

VA panel... 😒

[hard drift]

also this ^

[odd sand]

VA panels are like Hybrid bikes: You think it will be the best of both worlds, but it's really the worst of both

[hard drift]

also have mercy on your soul if it is 16 zone for hdr 🙏

[silk cargo]

doesnt matter since im not gonna do any production work, which IPS panels excel at.

[hard drift]

i mean ips panels are amazing for just media consumption in general

media/games so long as it's not a shit ips panel

[silk cargo]

maybe better if it was used as a 2nd monitor, but not if its my main monitor, which im planning to do. its all about the use-case as well

[jaunty light]

[odd sand]

VA panel is fine if its like an office work one or such

[silk cargo]

well, seeing as im currently on a LED monitor, it would be a upgrade in either case.

[odd sand]

Possibly, depends on how old I guess. Bc TN panels have fast GTG latency, but VAs won't be as good

[silk cargo]

about 5 years i think? was more expensive at any case, over 600$

[fair parcel]

headphone jacks

[hard drift]

don't worry now you won't be able to use a physical sim card 🙏

for now

[silk cargo]

it will be all cloud based with a monthly subscription 😅

[deep sapphire]

The non US market still has a SIM card tray

[sly elk]

lmao

that's so comically anti-customer

There hasn't been many times that apple kowtow'd to the major carriers, but this seems to be one of them

why would you go through all of that trouble of swapping sim cars when traveling internationally when you can pay your carrier exuberant international roaming fees huh?

anyway I am surprised they stuck a plastic block in there

[jaunty light]

just plastic? not unobtanium special apple branded polymer?

[sly elk]

the good news is a lot of us probably will never need the sim card slot anywya

[jaunty light]

i need it

got my fat stack of 5 phones

[latent grotto]

but what if... they just put a sim card tray in the phones sold for the us

[inland mauve]

buying Apple's stupid overpriced garbage hardware is just the first step of getting you into their ecosystem

the real money is in paid services

and store cuts

[sly elk]

it's ok, all of the other flagships will quickly follow

what won't are the oneplus/oppo/huwei/whatever random chinese thingy

$200, does like 90% of what an iphone 14 pro does, of course every other app is spyware but hey

or you can pay $400 for their flagship killer that technically is better on paper in every way, but real world performance is still worse for some reason

[inland mauve]

[jaunty light]

$200 huh

$1k is gonna be tomorrow's entry phone

[deep sapphire]

The only thing stupid here is the shit that comes out of your mouth

Being that the phone is unlocked regardless of what carrier you buy it from unless you owe a balance what difference does it make

It’s just one less hassle to deal with

Oh man I hate having less hassle in my life

[sly elk]

I can say, based on oneplus' existence and reviews and the way they react to negative reviews

I would never ever buy a oneplus anything ever

[modest moss]

Disgusting

Man this android discord app sucks on every device

[latent grotto]

yea...

android discord is now pain

bring back the old android discord

[odd sand]

My one friend has the G9 Neo and the other somehow got a 1st gen G9 recently. Indeed, dat R1000 curve or w/e

I have no idea how stores still had new stock of the G9 bc it was only on sale for like 3 months, and that was 2 years ago

[jaunty light]

is the whole edge a diffused rgb bar

wtf

i want it

or is that just a fancy ass reflective sticker

[kindred brook]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/xnjk4p/the_coolest_build/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[sly elk]

that does look nice

Dank der QHD-Auflösung (3.440 x 1.440) in 21:9,

https://tenor.com/view/yuri-on-ice-minami-kenjirou-minami-facepalm-oh-no-gif-14547631

[jaunty light]

DANK

[sly elk]

i'm not buying it

https://tenor.com/view/anime-no-x-arms-dont-like-gif-12199347

[jaunty light]

Do it

[sly elk]

lol

meh I'm waiting for the new amd cpus and even then idk

after getting the mac pro I'm like eh I don't need any more computer right now lol

lmao this dude on hackernews

talking about working from home, goes on a tirade about how it's a great way for employers to push the costs of work onto the emploeyees

and then cites higher water/electric bills

like wut bro? that's a sunk cost for me

my family will be at home using electricity and flushing the toilets and stuff while I'm not home

the impact of me using the toilet 3-5 times at home instead of work is suuuuper minimal

if you count how much you save by not driving and not eating out and

possibly other things like being able to wear cheaper clothes at home

and all the time saved not commuting

and the lower stress

(at least for me, I found that commute stressful)

not having to commute gives me less stress, which is probably doing wonders for my health

that said, I get to deal with my autistic bro more hours, so that stress may be canceled out hahahah

oh well.

true

plus I can deal with non-work-stuff way more effectively

which ironically gives me more time to do work during work hours

[deep sapphire]

DONK

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/donk-contest-austin-texas-atx-slab-donk-gif-15511534

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXvxIy4YupI

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/donk-contest-silver-cars-car-gif-15507230

idk why it keep sshowing ford donks

in my experience most donks are GMs

oldsmobiles, buicks, chevys from the 60s-80s

[deep sapphire]

yeah ford are ugly

https://tenor.com/view/impala-car-blue-shiny-gif-17891598

[odd sand]

Kinda to be expected given currency changes recently. I assume it will be 699 USD then. Wonder how long the KS will take to come out

[deep sapphire]

https://i.4cdn.org/o/1664101686020426.jpg

[odd sand]

12900KS came out 5 months later, so I assume about the same to build up enough top-binned parts

[deep sapphire]

https://i.4cdn.org/o/1664113431398605.png

hahaha

[odd sand]

How is a car with EU plates legal in the US?

[deep sapphire]

it was from top gear when they went to south america lol

erm sorry gran tour

[odd sand]

So somewhere in south america had them and a lifted truck with Colorado plates?

[deep sapphire]

yes

I've watched the episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oQtDn9czyU

[odd sand]

Oh, they brought it down there ;p

lol... so they drove to Tierra del Fuego and he decided to drive into the ocean there to be cheeky and stalled it?

This would be quite the scenic trip, but I suppose you can get similar views along I-395 without having to travel to the ass end of south america heh

Wow this is ridiculous. Looks like something you would find in a video game, but it looks so impressive bc it goes from sea level to 1000-1300m within such a short distance

(besides the obvious color balance nightmare)

Maybe I should visit Chile...

[sly elk]

yea but one of those is an elegantly designed beauty and the other is an ugly lifted, shortened station wagon with no design sense

[deep sapphire]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/classikcars/images/3/3a/DSC07643.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20120407211443

[jaunty light]

Perfect

[deep sapphire]

remember when you had a cute pfp

😔

[jaunty light]

Right now? Yes

[deep sapphire]

[sly elk]

Still looks better than the Escalade

[deep sapphire]

I think its perfect

PINK PANTHER BABY

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-cyberpunk2077-cyberpunk-edgerunners-rebecca-my-beloved-gif-26717275

[old jetty]

need a suggestion on which monitor to get

https://www.amazon.it/MSI-Optix-Monitor-Gaming-Display/dp/B083P6GTWD/ref=sr_1_24?crid=1HFZM9MOMHNCY&keywords=monitor%2B144hz&qid=1664195368&sprefix=monitor%2B1%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-24&th=1

https://www.amazon.it/ASUS-Gaming-VG249Q1A-Monitor-Overclockable/dp/B08CRQ1XQQ/ref=sr_1_31?crid=1HFZM9MOMHNCY&keywords=monitor%2B144hz&qid=1664195368&sprefix=monitor%2B1%2Caps%2C181&sr=8-31&th=1

[modest moss]

want

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/nRaJXZMOMPU 🔥

[kindred brook]

thats HOT

spicy af

[real edge]

tl;dr x3d is the same as 7xxx in games that use cache

but better in games that do not

which is impressive for the x3d

[kindred brook]

damn

should I just buy

a 5800 x3d

[real edge]

in old cards that is

7xxx is better in games that do not use the cpus cache or uses little

5800x3d is the same as the 7xxx in games that use the cpus cache

[hard drift]

Just wait until next year when the new 3-D parts come out

[real edge]

personally I am not going to go with a 7xxx

too expensive of a package

700$+ for mobo, ram and cpu together

more for the other parts ofc

this is for the 7600x

[kindred brook]

Oh shiet if bidori telling me I should upgrade

Going to do it

What about 2nd Gen raptors

[real edge]

the 3d parts for the 7xxx series are going to be crazy expensive

so for am4 users

a 5800x3d is a good buy and will last you years

until ddr5 and mobo prices drop

[hard drift]

raz.... just don't upgrade lol

[real edge]

but for NON-am4 users

[hard drift]

you've been here long enough to know enough information on what is worth upgrading and such

[real edge]

then it may be worth a consideration

but only for people with old cpus

old intel cpus that is

[hard drift]

not to mention, no matter what you'll be spending more next cpu generation since ddr4 will be 100% end of life for new cpus hopefully

[real edge]

am4 users can just buy the 5800x3d and be satisfied for 3 more years

hopefully by then, prices on that stuff will have dropped enough and am5 would have matured enough as a platform

that is what I think anyway

[kindred brook]

11700k with motherboard 300 bucks

Lol

[fervent field]

https://twitter.com/ipsusu/status/1574398838642712576?t=YatVgPJ_OxFieh8PURU7lA&s=19

ipsusu ipsu (@ipsusu)

lol 5800X3D still far ontop. pay attention to minimum numbers here as that is the number for CPU bottlenecks in limsa etc.

Twitter · Sep 26, 2022, 2:01 PM

https://www.club386.com/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-review-8c16t-excellence/

[hard drift]

that is exactly why people should wait for next year 🙏

[fervent field]

yep lol

[hard drift]

x3d will be announced at CES supposedly

[fervent field]

either engine optimization finally in 7.0 "graphics" update or 7000 series VCache

FFXIV use more than one core for critical rendering challenge

[real edge]

for am4 users, the 5800x3d will be a better buy over new gen x3d parts due to the ridiculous x3d and mobo cost of the new gen

[fervent field]

and ddr5 prices (even if they're a bit cheaper now)

and AM5 cooler compatibility is apparently kinda sketch

[real edge]

3-4 years from now tho when the 5800x3d is "old" enough we may see a price drop for new stuff like ram and mobos but I am not hoping for it

[hard drift]

ddr5 will drop once intel finally ditches ddr4

[fervent field]

I think it'll still hold value kinda well because it's going to be forever the "best" DDR4 gaming cpu

[hard drift]

eh no, 13th gen will be better 99%

[fervent field]

well, for AM4 I guess

how many forced upgrades have there been for intel while AM4 has been available

[potent arrow]

Looooks like I'll be picking up the 7950x

;-; those render times

[hard drift]

nooo why not wait for x3d 😭

[fervent field]

just wait for the 3d version unless you really need it

[kindred brook]

Is there one with higher resolutions

[potent arrow]

My 3900x wants to be put down

[hard drift]

🙏 same with my 3700x lol

[kindred brook]

Wow Sarah upgrading before me

[fervent field]

no because its testing CPU bottleneck, higher would just be the same with less max fps

[hard drift]

bitch please, you're on way better than us

[potent arrow]

My CPU heatsink literally has a hole in it

[kindred brook]

What

[real edge]

odyssey neo g9

[kindred brook]

All heatsinks have holes

[hard drift]

recommending samsung

[kindred brook]

I thought that's how thermal spread works

[real edge]

I have a samsung

[hard drift]

ice has the worst luck

literally do not go samsung

[real edge]

ahh yes

[hard drift]

their QC is shit and given ice and his luck, he'd get the shittiest neo g9 ever

[real edge]

the american strategy of including taxes after and not with the product

[hard drift]

ice is canadian 😐

[real edge]

yes

but that strategy is american from stores for the most part

but ice just stick with the on-sale LGs

if you want an ultrawide

too many questions about oled atm for the alienware

about longevity

even tho its better

yes

when I see youtube channels mention 300$ for the 7600x

I just imagine 360$ instead

yeah that is too much money

1500$ + tax + warranty 2500$ lol

but 1500$ is a more attractive price so stores use that and conveniently exclude everything else

[umbral moss]

it's more that the US doesn't have a national sales tax, so they can't include tax in the price because it would make prices wildly inconsistent state to state

and everyone would move to shitty states like arizona and washington where they don't have sales tax

[real edge]

we have different tax per state in greece

sales tax

[umbral moss]

but you have VAT, which is included in the price

[real edge]

yup, different vat per big area so to say

athens is 24%

[sharp star]

Welp

I'm sticking with my 5800X3D then

[real edge]

by specs alone, the OLED is the best, followed by the neo G9,

but oled questions about longevity and neo g9 price excludes them

[umbral moss]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I enjoy having a warm room in the winter

[real edge]

for price, based on the sales you told me

then the gn850 is the best value for money

the best performing LG that I can see is the GP950G-B

excluding contrast

if we're talking about ultrawides that is

IPS displays have poor contrast

any other displays on sale?

[odd sand]

They don't even have 13900K benchmarks yet, do they?

I heard they had a media day tomorrow

[umbral moss]

that's true for GPUs too

my titan gets pissy holding the 2050 core clock if I don't keep the core below 40C

as soon as the temps get over 42C the power limiter starts flipping and then the GPU auto throttles down to 1980

if I have the AC in my room on the core gets to 44-ish most of the time

[jaunty light]

If i had the time i would edit that meme, but anyways 42c, flips calendar back to 1984

[paper tusk]

to fix the temps all have to do is set eco mode by default. that's it. if can't do that manually chop vcore to like 1.5v and call it a day because amd fucked up (also IHS sucks)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbleAsDUYAEY6aD?format=png&name=900x900

that's 7600x when forced to behave

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289234242289008643/1023978866022305792/unknown.png

[umbral moss]

🤔

90C all cores?

[paper tusk]

yeah somehow that's legit now (and not an old joke about intel's old strat to keep up) edit: I almost forgot about amd piledriver before ryzen being a little space heater

[umbral moss]

90C just seems like they fucked up the heatspreader

[paper tusk]

that too

[umbral moss]

did they use thermal compound or phase change solder?

[paper tusk]

should be solder. intel went to paste for a while and got shit on for it

[umbral moss]

dunno, if they were using solder the heatspreader should be able to keep up

the thermal reluctance of the solder interface shouldn't be so high that delidding does anything substantial

[paper tusk]

yeah i can't tell because review samples might be delidded already because removing the sealant might be ass but GN video doesn't show any solder remains

[potent arrow]

its not everyday that your t480 wont stop making a high pitch scream

especially when there arnt any fans in it

[hard drift]

Derbaur showed a video of delidded dropping 20c

[paper tusk]

i posted an image of that

[hard drift]

He also destroyed the cpu 😭

[umbral moss]

pog

security update?

geforce experience

of course

never install that shit

[sly elk]

from the comments about the 7000 series amd, maybe i should ponder building a 5800x3d

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRaJXZMOMPU

HAHA

HAHAHAHA

@hard drift

[jaunty light]

Fermi

You cant escape the heat

Custom lööps are mandatory

[deep sapphire]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[umbral moss]

how do you drop it 50 degrees?

🤔

member when I said the power consumption for 5+ GHz was going to be out of control?

[deep sapphire]

so if you have to delid

that means it doesnt use soldered tim

[umbral moss]

yeah, that's my thought too

[deep sapphire]

didnt AMD fans make fun of intel for that?

[umbral moss]

solder would have functionally identical temperatures delidded or not

[deep sapphire]

[umbral moss]

I2V? who would have guessed

[deep sapphire]

there is no way you can drop it 50c

thats way too big of a difference

[umbral moss]

also consider that just chopping the vcore like that is a chip to chip sample

[deep sapphire]

AMD engineers are dog shit if thats the case

[umbral moss]

if you get a garbo sample it may need the reference voltage

[umbral moss]

if they're setting the vcore to something stupid like 1.8V to make sure all the chips hit 6GHz on boost, they're just designing against physics lol

some chips won't need all that voltage, so you can chop the vcore to something reasonable and watch your power consumption drop

but I bet the absolute dogshit samples that I'll get stuck with won't even post without needing 2V

Likewise, putting the AMD machine into sleep mode causes issues. I wasn’t able to successfully resume from sleep quickly, either. AMD says it’s working on a fix for this, too, which will hopefully be available very soon.

AMD LITERALLY POWERS THE FUCKING XBOX THAT HAS FAST RESUME FEATURES WHAT IN THE FUCK

[paper tusk]

that was first thing that came to mind for upgrading my 3700x but 400 bucks to cram myself solidly into current gen hardware doesn't feel good (even if it's an instant and significant gaming upgrade compared to buy ddr5 6000 now and wait for meteor/ intel gen 14 next year)

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-twyjfYIw

[jaunty light]

30a circuits, 5k entry level PC times baby

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-snl-hate-to-gif-19605814

[paper tusk]

that's what i worried about when i saw the leaked msrp at least if i want to remain 8 or more cores

I'm willing to upgrade them all it's just a value proposition and 😐

[jaunty light]

Aluminum wire is cheap

[paper tusk]

just use some dielectric paste 4head nothing will start on fire at all

[sharp star]

Since when was FF14 added to GN's benchmarks

[paper tusk]

it hasn't he just dismissed xiv as being gpu bound (when he's never been in limsa or in a hunt train that'll delete frame rate on old cpus/slow ram)

[deep sapphire]

intel beats AMD

LMAO

@hard drift

[umbral moss]

MX-4 paste is still a thing?

I thought cryonaut was the way to go?

[sharp star]

Kryonaut dries up fast

[paper tusk]

its been discontinused because of bad product control

[sharp star]

wait what

LMAO

[paper tusk]

correction, mx5 is dc'ed

i think mx4 is around

[sharp star]

o

[umbral moss]

sometimes higher number isn't better

¯_(ツ)_/¯

the VP755 is apparently plagued with some kind of impeller design defect so it breaks in a couple dozen hours

but the VP655 runs like a tank and is capable of higher flow and higher pressure than the VP755

dunno why they even made the 755 if it's worse than the 655 in every way

[sharp star]

ah yeah Steve did say Shadowbringers in the review but corrected himself for a split second to Endwalker

[modest moss]

wait, AMD's new shit can't even beat my casual 12700k?

[deep sapphire]

HAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

RUNS HOT AS SHIT

SLOWER THAN A YEAR OLD CPU

[umbral moss]

new chip, new socket, new chipset

rip amd

see you in four years when you've sorted all this shit out in zen 5

and that may be true

in 2026 when they release the zen 5+ x3d chips

and AM5 boards are actually good with DDR5 dimms that actually work

[modest moss]

@hard drift come shill your shiz

[deep sapphire]

Ya snooze ya lose with AMD

https://cdn.britannica.com/79/173779-050-2FC54270/Andrew-Grove-Robert-Noyce-Gordon-Moore-1978.jpg

Blocks your path

Intel is moving back to that

Wow fuck Home Depot I’m going to Menards

Northern tool is right behind it they sell Milwaukee

Nice Chevy

What’s that

GMT800 body trucks were the best made trucks in history

Tons of them still on the road 25 years later

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMT800

[dull garnet]

He still hasn't bought a monitor

[burnt quiver]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-twyjfYIw&t=508s

ffxiv benchmark test with Ryzen 5 7600X + 3090 ti, reporting based on average fps/1% low/0.1% low

[deep sapphire]

So buy Intel if you play ffxiv

Got it

Another win for team blue

Pack it up boys

[burnt quiver]

these results don't match my personal tests though where I find better lows with AMD over Intel, I found 5800x3d > 12700KF on a 3080

[deep sapphire]

nope

[sly elk]

ya know, it might have a samsung panel, but at least it has a dell 3 year warranty (err it does in canada too right? RIGHT?)

[hard drift]

I’m not a shill smh

Idc anymore anyways 😔 work has me too mad to care

[silk cargo]

probably different ram sticks? since the 7600x uses ddr5

[burnt quiver]

honestly that's a good point, I haven't tested Alder Lake with DDR5 yet, since I've been doing all my testing with the same 2x 16 kit of DDR4 for consistency

[silk cargo]

yeah, from what ive seen so far, 70x series scales much better than alder with ddr5

we'll see once raptor lake is announced and see how well they scale with ddr5

[modest moss]

shush ms shill

[jaunty light]

You say used
We say forced & hated

[sly elk]

for your use case, I agree. no advantage. just warranty.
Sometimes LG uses better antiglare than dell does.

[modest moss]

pretty sure LG does a 3 year warranty as standard

your country needs better consumer laws then

[paper tusk]

about that https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/ddr5-ryzen-7-7700-ddr5-memory-scaling-review,1.html (tl;dr: timing is more important than speed in real world use beyond 7zip/data compression)

[umbral moss]

which has always been the case

unless you're shuffling a ton of data in and out of memory bandwidth doesn't matter too much

it's more important that you get it as quickly as possible

same shit as crying about sustained read/write speeds on a SSD

you literally never use it that way

[paper tusk]

the 6000/30CL for amd is a good suggestion in general (which I've said before review embargo ended) but for the asking prices it's kinda a raw deal

[umbral moss]

maybe in 2040

[modest moss]

it's a feature

[jaunty light]

Get a nice stove

[late basalt]

welp

gave up on trying to update my iwatch

gave it back to my parents and said do whatever the fuck you want with it

because if i get it back and it's not functional, it's going in the trash in as many pieces as i can manage

piece of fucking shit

[jaunty light]

https://www.smeg.com/products/A4-81

The brand name is unfortunate tho

A4-81 has a 5 year

Usually only on a promo period tho. And you need the space and vent for it

[sly elk]

sigh

I'd take the basic bitch $1k induction range

yea

I really like freestanding ovens

that's what I've decided after living in a house with a wall oven and a cooktop

FUCK THAT

those things are bullshit

I mean the $5k bougie range is a free standing one too, usually

slide in and drop in thingies seem like a big headache

[jaunty light]

Tf is this

Lmao

[umbral moss]

https://twitter.com/crypto/status/1574561974817521683

Bloomberg Crypto (@crypto)

If cryptocurrencies are to change the world, the people behind them need to be ready to face the music when things go wrong, @tculpan writes https://t.co/1z0oP4wzmp via @opinion

Twitter · Sep 27, 2022, 12:50 AM

https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/45781/win-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-gpu-with-cyberpunk-2077-backplate

[royal forge]

I dont think i need a space heater or fire hazard

[umbral moss]

I will enjoy having 6x the GPU power of my titan

sign me up nerds

[royal forge]

Costs a kidney

The price IS ridiculous

[umbral moss]

$1600 for a titan part is... pretty much right on target, actually

I paid $1200 for my titan in 2016

the 4080 is way overpriced

especially the shittier 12GB version

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-money-rich-gif-26085286

[hard drift]

i mean it's actually pretty damn good, the price for a 90/titan class card "didn't" increase since it's mainly just chip cost/inflation

the 3090 would be the same price pretty much if released right now

[umbral moss]

yeah

the other parts are the outliers

the titan equivalent has always been in the $1500 range, especially adjusted for inflation

member when they had that absolutely dogshit titan V dual GPU thing that cost $2500?

[hard drift]

yup

[sly elk]

https://www.costco.com/klipsch-promedia-heritage-2.1-multimedia-speaker-system.product.100852488.html

They stuck a retro skin on those lol

[hard drift]

there's a ms shill???

[umbral moss]

they cost extra if you want to skip the line

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hard drift]

oh i thought there was a female shill that they were referring to

[somber solstice]

AMD getting pretty hot arent they

[hard drift]

still nothing compared to intel when left to boost 🙏

[somber solstice]

Expensive ngl

[hard drift]

not to mention 100% chance it draws more power than amd

[somber solstice]

I will stick with my 5600x

[hard drift]

i'm waiting for 7000x3d before i decide on upgrading

[somber solstice]

5800x3d was a scam

[hard drift]

no it wasn't 🤨

[somber solstice]

[hard drift]

literally was not a scam lol

[somber solstice]

I will take 5800x over it

[sullen igloo]

HWO THE FUCK DO I GET MORE FPS ON THIS GAME

[somber solstice]

Anytime any day

[hard drift]

that's stupid af

[somber solstice]

No its not

[sullen igloo]

IS THE I7 BETTER THAN AMD

[hard drift]

how so?

[somber solstice]

I aint using my pc just for gaming

[hard drift]

even then, it's basically the same as a 5800x

[somber solstice]

Oh wait i can take 5700x instead

Forgot that thing exist

[hard drift]

😐 why would you go from 5600x -> 5700x

that's such a waste of money

[somber solstice]

It is literally not the same shown by benchmarks tested by gamernexus and hardware unboxed

[umbral moss]

I think it's time to say goodbye to x86 and the idea of silicon as a transistor material

we've reached the limit of transistor design, y'all

time to pack it up and do something else

[hard drift]

not a huge deficit plus you get way better gaming performance and can still technically overclock the x3d to be more like the regular

[somber solstice]

You still gotta talk about the price

5800x3d is more expensive than 5800x

[hard drift]

literally not lmao

on sale sure, but msrp no

[somber solstice]

But why would you choose 5800x3d over 5800x then

Lmao

Literally no reason

[hard drift]

because it's way better for gaming 🤨

[somber solstice]

Not better in productivity

For general usage 5800x is the go to

No brainer

[hard drift]

if you're after productivity you're not generally going for 5800x you'll go for 5900x/5950x

5900x is better thermally and way better productivity wise

and if you're going from 5600x -> 5700x you're not using your brain anyways 😐

[somber solstice]

You are bringing up 5900x 5700x in disc why 5800x3d not better than 5800x

[hard drift]

save an extra 100 dollars or whatever and get the 5900x heck, it might be on sale

[somber solstice]

Its only doing good for gaming that is it

[hard drift]

🤨 it's way better in gaming for a slight bit worse productivity which you can make up overclocking it

not to mention the 5800x regular is worse thermally than other skus

[somber solstice]

You think majority would overclock their stuff?

[hard drift]

you're talking single digit % loss for a massive gain in gaming since it's not 100% dedicated to productivity

[somber solstice]

But you do you i guess

[hard drift]

it's literally a no brainer

[somber solstice]

Agree to disagree

[sharp star]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-metal-gear-rising-sam-gif-24999738

[hard drift]

just people coming in here saying nonsense smh

the usual

they're in a gaming discord and the main focus of most users in here is gaming and they call one of the best gaming cpus a scam

[somber solstice]

Sure i may have worded a bit harsh or exaggerating but IMO it is just not as good as 5800X for overall usage , it is a discussion channel and i thought i could give some thoughts but oh well lets just end there

[hard drift]

except that statement is wrong 🤨 "not as good" it loses extremely little for productivity for way more gains in gaming so it's well balanced and an overall amazing cpu when both are at the same MSRP

most of the time people who get the 8 core cpu aren't using it for productivity, sure some may use it for odds and ends but generally speaking 6/8 core cpus are for gamers

[odd sand]

It's all CPU-bound so you either need a new CPU, faster ram, or overclock your shit heh

Supposedly Intel has better FPS than AMD as well (For FF14 specifically)

[umbral moss]

better IPC optimization

[odd sand]

All these benchmarks this week with 7000 series vs 12th gen, seems kinda pointless.

Although the Blender multicore scores for the 7950x were ridiculous

[hard drift]

that's what happens when intel release is still a bit away

that's why we wait for x3d 🙏

[odd sand]

I dunno, we'll see. AMD jumped from 22k Blender score to 38k

[hard drift]

intel launch is still like 3 weeks away, gives time for optimization and fixes in bios and such for amd

[odd sand]

One thing I've noticed is the top AMD consumer chips really are more workstation-oriented. Whereas the Core i9 seem to be really good at gaming and workstation.

[hard drift]

little cores 🤢

[odd sand]

Good. AMD always needs it...

[hard drift]

lol

i mean we'll see how 13th gen is

especially with ddr4 vs 5

i have a feeling ddr4 will take a massive hit this gen

[odd sand]

You say that, but the "little cores" are better than stuff like threadripper and 3900x from only a few years ago

[hard drift]

i mean yeah but it took them nearly 3 years to get to that point

[odd sand]

As someone whose hoping to keep their DDR4 with this upgrade: I still hope so. DDR5 being pathetic gains over DDR4 even 2-3 years later is ugh

I guess the real question is: Are 2x E-cores better than 1x AMD cores?

[hard drift]

i really hope it isn't good with ddr4 because we need them to make a bigger push towards ddr5 to drive down prices

[odd sand]

Because AMD is a 16c chip and Intel is a 24c chip (albeit only 8 of those cores are hyperthreaded)

Like 20k I think

Actually wait, I think this benchmark hadi t at 27k (Jayz2cents video)

I can probably push my DDR4 ram to 3933 at least, and hoping maybe even as high as 4166 or w/e

[hard drift]

eco mode for 7950x isn't terrible

[odd sand]

I fully expect Intel to ship a KS chip in spring that hits the mythical 6.0ghz factory turbo

[hard drift]

lmfao, intel going to start shipping it with the sub zero coolers again

[odd sand]

Is Eco mode where it doesn't just suck down as much power as possible assuming it's 95C or below?

[hard drift]

yeah

[odd sand]

Keep in mind that 6.0 ghz would be for like 2 cores

[hard drift]

it limits it to whatever the eco modes are set to

[odd sand]

I forget if it was Jay or Gamers Nexus that was saying you could do 5.7 all-core on the AMD

[hard drift]

lmfao

[odd sand]

It's interesting how like, the entire industry in the same gen decided "Crypto is dead? We'll take that power then!"

Between 7950x, 13th gen, and 40 series

[hard drift]

hopefully 7000 series gpu aren't power hungry

[odd sand]

Still on the fence if I want to keep my 850w gold for my 3080 10gb and the 13900k

[hard drift]

more than that

[hard drift]

probably not

[odd sand]

Get yourself one of those new ATX 3.0 1600w PSUs ... only like $275!

[umbral moss]

going to need the gen 5 PSUs

[odd sand]

Just install 240V or 220 or w/e

[umbral moss]

$275 seems... suspiciously cheap

the corsair ax1600 is like $600

[odd sand]

Then shouldn't that already be good for like 3400W?

Better efficiency

[hard drift]

it's not actually

it'll be closer to like 300ish for 1600w but still, prices are pretty nice

and it's seasonic so they're usually pretty good

[umbral moss]

yeah, you have to flip a toggle on analog units

digital supplies accept both without complaining

analog supplies can just explode themselves if you connect a 240V to a 115 configured input though

[odd sand]

https://www.msi.com/blog/msis-meg-ai1300p-pcie5-is-the-worlds-first-atx-30-compliant-psu

See if there's a switch on the back for 120/240 otherwise assume it's auto-sensing (Since you said the manual claimed it could take 240V) otherwise inquire on reddit or tomshardware or something if concerned

[hard drift]

Still about 200usd for gold 1000w

Not too bad though

[odd sand]

A 14yo beater hatchback being the same price as a new top of the line GPU? Sounds about right

[umbral moss]

this is a lot of jargon to "demonstrate" compliance

but at the end of the day, is the unit actually reliable or is it just a spec wank

[odd sand]

Have to wait for GN or LTT's new Lab32 team to do a rundown

I know on the WAN show they were saying the team had just been through training on the PSU tester they bought, so presumably they will jump into ATX 3.0 benchmarks when they feel ready.

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[odd sand]

I mean, that was quite literally one of the stated purposes of the ATX 3.0 spec was to support 2x transient spikes of 100 miliseconds

[umbral moss]

sure, but I don't trust that their unit is actually capable of doing this

reading market copy is great, but at the end of the day every PSU advertises ATX 2.0 compliance and there's only what, 5 PSUs in S tier?

[umbral moss]

going to need a dedicated three phase line for that

[hard drift]

Evga wasn’t experimenting with it, that was just kingpin

[umbral moss]

tap the 480VAC across the three phases

[hard drift]

He does his insane overclocking stuff, it’s normal to be overboard

[umbral moss]

with the amount of power these things are starting to pull it's just about time to say goodbye to the old utility scale buildout

"oh no people are using their full service panel rating consistently, how could this happen?"

[odd sand]

I guess it depends on where we go from here: Will it continue to climb, or will fab shrinks bring back down power reqs?

[umbral moss]

you don't pull that much at one time

[odd sand]

Intel thinks they're only 4 years away from 20 angstrom process ... we'll see

[hard drift]

New materials, it’s going to get worse for silicone most likely

[umbral moss]

silicon as a semiconductor is basically done

between the switching frequency losses and the fact we're at two atoms width

like, it's time to re-think how transistors are made

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/eddiemath-thinking-hard-let-see-hmmm-complicated-gif-13489714

[sly elk]

hehe

[sly elk]

-lays back in chair-

https://tenor.com/view/erio-touwa-rocking-chair-waiting-anime-gif-9032285

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/s04TOQkzv3c

[royal forge]

Since my sis is comin to live in the jungle with me... i m8ght get to move into a proper house

Might finally get to build a proper setup

[deep sapphire]

Hmmmm

@sly elk

What you think of the refreshed HD trucks

Looks better than the prior facelift

AND it keeps the column shifter

They sure do listen

[royal forge]

Damn Hank, dat ur boat?

[modest moss]

why are you buying a weeb truck instead of this fine chevy

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1574745787254288384

Wario64 (@Wario64)

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X at Newegg https://t.co/LiZURxBbkP
7900X https://t.co/G7lBaRztKk #ad

Twitter · Sep 27, 2022, 1:00 PM

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1574746147310096384

Wario64 (@Wario64)

7700X at Newegg https://t.co/BoqaIt3ftQ
7600X https://t.co/TIoE6aKolS

Twitter · Sep 27, 2022, 1:01 PM

[deep sapphire]

Cause the heavy duty trucks get like 15 MPG 😭

[sharp star]

Zen 4 CPUs going up at Amazon and Best Buy

[modest moss]

what mpg will the toyota get?

[deep sapphire]

20-24

I have no need for a heavy duty truck tbh, that’s for like work work

Hauling stuff around constantly and what not

[modest moss]

ok stick with the cute little mentor orange truck

[deep sapphire]

[modest moss]

50% better fuel economy is gonna be a huge amount of money over time, especially with you doing a decently long drive to work

[deep sapphire]

Pretty much, my uncle has a heavy duty truck and hauls a big trailer around and he says he’s lucky to get 10 MPG sometimes lol

But it pays the bills so what do ya do

[modest moss]

you get 2 horses and a wagon

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1574748634507141120

Wario64 (@Wario64)

AMD Ryzen processors/motherboards at Newegg https://t.co/0Mn567wdcS #ad

Twitter · Sep 27, 2022, 1:11 PM

[hard drift]

i mean those are 670E motherboards

high end as expected 🙏

if asrock wasn't so bad i'd actually consider this a great deal

[dull garnet]

bruh

[hard drift]

what?

[dull garnet]

Ur mom

[hard drift]

my mom

[modest moss]

don't chat shit about my sidechick

[dull garnet]

Those are some expensive motherboards

[hard drift]

i mean it was expected lol mid-low end won't be out for a bit. by then hopefully x3d will be out though

[modest moss]

shilling hard af

[hard drift]

no 🤨 that's just how it goes for cpu releases

[dull garnet]

£100 is my ceiling for a motherboard

[modest moss]

pound is so fucked you might need to increase that

[hard drift]

yeah i was about to say that's pretty bad

that'd be ONLY the B series chipset likely

[hard drift]

intel did the same thing with their lower end chipsets smh

[dull garnet]

B450 chad rise up

[hard drift]

plus you have 5000 series why do you need to upgrade

[dull garnet]

i didn't say a word about upgrading

[hard drift]

😒

[dull garnet]

what

[hard drift]

nothing 🙏

[royal forge]

Ryzen CPUs made in Malaysia

shipped to US

then reimported back into Msia

so our prices are through the roof

https://old.reddit.com/r/malaysia/comments/xoj5cf/feels_good_to_see_our_name_on_something_nice/

[dull garnet]

crazy ihs

[hard drift]

the best part about the new chipset is all the usb

[umbral moss]

nice IHS design

no wonder delidding the thing decreases temps by 30C

yeah, that's why I haven't built a new PC yet

we've gone back to 1991 computer prices

member when a tandy PC was $3499

with 4MB of blazing fast ram

intel isn't going to gently lower prices

yeah, that tracks

intel can eat shit with their "more efficiency" design though

just give me fewer cores if the high efficiency cores are never really used

[dull garnet]

just never upgrade again

[umbral moss]

97% DCI-P3

wake me when we're at 110% of rec.2020 and DCI-P3

that's not what they're referring to

even rec.2020 only covers something like 55% of the CIE 1930 color chart

the reason they say 140% of SRGB is because it covers more of the CIE chart than SRGB does

but not enough to be compliant with another spec like DCI-P3 or rec.2020

[umbral moss]

if I get alzheimers I would like to be terminated

[loud cedar]

I'm in the market for a new keyboard (gaming mostly). Anyone really like their keyboard and want to recommend it? Would prefer to spend less than $100 so know I'm not going to get anything crazy fancy, just looking for a decent keyboard.

[odd sand]

Wasn't Intel having some sort of announcement today?

[umbral moss]

yeah, they announced that they aren't AMD so they don't need to reveal anything yet lmao get rekt scrubs

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/penguins-of-madagascar-rico-dancing-dance-dance-moves-gif-22963077

[umbral moss]

big performance gains

https://tenor.com/view/good-place-michael-torture-penis-flattener-gif-12389451

[odd sand]

Oh shit, only $589? Shots fired on AMD I guess.

[hard drift]

their gains aren't that impressive either and this is from their own testing 😔 they don't even tell you the difference between x3d and the 13900k they just show it as a brownish bar lmao

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-announces-arc-a770-gpu-at-329-launches-october-12th oh look, another "launch" date they can fail to make

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-i-like-to-wave-pass-by-gif-17138724

[hard drift]

z790 is a fucking scam lmao

0 reason to go z790 unless you need that usb speed

i mean more than likely for some of it, once 3d vcache comes out intel loses though. not even the 13900ks will save them

there's a reason they compared to the 5950x for their graphs and percentages and just added the 5800x3d as a single line instead of comparing to it

[odd sand]

Wtf? So it leads by this much ... except for this other CPU we're not going to mention?

[hard drift]

they were defeated by a $450 product when their $590/739 products were way more expensive and way more power hungry lmao

and now the next gen of x3d is nearing release and intel will respond with a 13900ks and it will lose

🔫

also atleast amds newest chipsets aren't a fucking scam

[odd sand]

Fair enough, but I also still see this as a stepping stone for Intel getting back in their stride. 14th or 15th gen is where I really see them competing favorably against AMD assuming their chiplet designs don't fall on their face

[hard drift]

eh i think they'll have a harder time justifying 14/15th gen because am5 will just need a new cpu/x3d will be out

[odd sand]

Anything before chiplet is them doing iterative tweaks kinda like how they went 14nm+++++

[umbral moss]

maybe zen5+ will be good

[hard drift]

and given what intel showed today, they won't tell you the difference between the x3d product and their high end

[umbral moss]

zen 4 is

[hard drift]

the x3d is what i'm waiting for

supposedly going to be 3 tiers of x3d products this time

[odd sand]

How so? Intel has always only supported a socket for like 1-2 gens.

[umbral moss]

I don't think the x3d will be substantially better, especially if the problem is that the boards are buggy and the thermals are way out of control

just turn on eco mode

shouldn't be a thing

it's like the old speedstep thing for intel

[odd sand]

I'm curious how moving to LGA will work for AMD though. I have a feeling you're not gonna see AMD try to support a socket for 5-6-7 years anymore now that they're on LGA

[hard drift]

true

[odd sand]

I have a feeling their support for AM5 will be only the 3 years

[hard drift]

i mean we'll see, i'm hopefully for atleast zen 6 support on it

[odd sand]

Especially if the trend is for larger and larger CPUs and GPUs: That's going to necessitate a larger socket then. Much like Intel went from a square to rectangular socket for consumer cpus

[hard drift]

i mean the problems will hopefully be worked out by then and x3d will still likely perform quite a bit better since the first gen was just them testing it pretty much 🙏

[odd sand]

Unless AMD really blows me out of the water in another couple years, I assume I'll get 15th or 16th gen and sit on that for a long time

[hard drift]

if the x3d products wind up being bad i'll probably wait even longer to upgrade 😔

[odd sand]

Whenever the chiplet design is matured

[hard drift]

chiplet design has already matured

the next chiplet design to mature is gpus

[odd sand]

Intel hasn't used it yet. AMD's is, yes.

14th gen is their first platform with chiplet

[hard drift]

yes

[odd sand]

Correct

[hard drift]

although amd has been using chiplets with CDNA

so i have faith it'll be good in terms of power and such but still no news on rdna 3 except that it launches in november

[odd sand]

Intel plans yearly process shrinks for like 4 years, which I find BS given their struggles with 10 and 7nm

[hard drift]

they finally have a competent leader

i have faith

[odd sand]

https://images.anandtech.com/doci/16823/AnandTechRoadmaps3.png

[hard drift]

their gpus on the other hand, all their failed launch date targets are making them lose trust from consumers

[odd sand]

I know they aren't calling them nm anymore (thanks TSMC and Samsung! /s) but they're roughly process shrinks.

Intel 7 is 10nm, Intel 4 is 7nm, Intel 3 is like 3-5nm or something, and 20A is angstroms aka 2nm

They're the first company to get the High-NA EUV machines from the one company that makes them, so they're planning to do the usual Intel then and snow AMD under with spending I guess? lol

[umbral moss]

I mean, that assumes ASML isn't selling them to glofo and TSMC

which I'm sure they are

[odd sand]

They will, but Intel got the first one(s), so they will theoretically have a temporal lead

What's a slidedeck?

[hard drift]

then why are you even saying it smh

[odd sand]

Oh, you just mean the Intel PPT stuff

Can you reserve stuff at Microcenter for pickup, or is it first-come-first-serve?

[hard drift]

first come first serve pretty sure

[odd sand]

Bc I'll be in Minneapolis in Nov, so I'd like to pick one up while there if possible, but I'm not driving all the way out there just for that heh

[paper tusk]

Yeah unless there's a reserve for pickup its first come first serve

[odd sand]

Ah, I was right. BS on the 8ghz OC tho ... other than liquid nitrogen or something. That obviously wouldn't be usable normally. https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/12/23348620/intel-13th-gen-cpus-raptor-lake-6ghz-stock-8ghz-overclocked

[paper tusk]

Thonk

[odd sand]

Makes sense. The 3090s were heavily discounted and going to be less of them than the more mundane cards.

They're keeping cards in reserve for warranties. They're out of stock to sell

This whole boom and bust was very predictable, but companies do it every time.

Can you ask them for CAD? Otherwise I'm sure they can convert it, you'll just lose like 2-3% in conversion fees

[modest moss]

do it pussy

you have 28 days to provide receipts

or you will be laughed at in this channel

wait

nm

you already are

#technology-discussion is a village, and every village needs an idiot

most days, that's you

sometimes bidori, sometimes ed, sometimes honk

shit, we're a pretty dumb village

we should all be more like hank

[hard drift]

not anymore 🙏

[odd sand]

iphone14 is ugly af. The cameras stick out so far

[hard drift]

That’s not a peace offering 😭 bacon will kill you

[odd sand]

That's later. Bacon is delicious now.

All about that rose gold rite

Gotta get a matching rice cooker

[jaunty light]

[dull garnet]

rose gold = rich asian

space grey is the one for me

[sharp star]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/775029464164859957/1024389714599489577/unknown.png

this posted yet?

[rough tundra]

Is there a reason SE is so naughty when it comes to not wanting to allow it’s game to be used on cloud services like GeForce now?

I played guild wars 2 over GeForce now and had no delay or isssues

[sharp star]

also you can run League at 60FPS on a blighted potato

[hard drift]

not that specific one but others were

both cpu makers have released meh cpus this time 😔 x3d is where it's at hopefully and intel released an awful updated chipset

[sharp star]

I'll wait for Raptor Lake benchmarks to see if it really is a dealbreaker for me

[hard drift]

only the 7950x is out of stock

[hard drift]

i have a feeling both will be neck and neck while amd draws less power potentially

the main thing intel has that amd doesn't based on their leaked slides is the 1% lows being brought up

meaning smoother gameplay experience

[dull garnet]

not like this amd bros

[hard drift]

if x3d isn't good amd cpus are dead to me 😭

[dull garnet]

can you imagine the price

7950X3D, $1000

[sharp star]

god

[hard drift]

i don't need a 16 core cpu

[dull garnet]

corelet!!!!

[hard drift]

i mean... it just took them adding more cache to their 8 core to beat intel lmao

😐 coding is lame af

i did a bunch of it for my senior project in c#

also took a college class on computer engineering and it was boring

i am not after paying the bills if it means being miserable for the rest of my life

electrical/mechanical engineering is much better and you won't convert me

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i9-13900ks-special-edition-6ghz-cpu-to-launch-next-year already getting ready for x3d

i have no dreams anymore

lmao, you want them to release arc as an igpu when they can't even release the dedicated gpu

[rough tundra]

All these news cpus and I’m still using a 5600x and I’ve had no complaints at 4k lol

[hard drift]

i mean at 4k there's virtually 0 reason to upgrade except maybe for 1% low framerate

but need to see testing on intel for it

[rough tundra]

Yeah

I mean my Gpu is a 3080

So I’m probably fine for awhile

[dull garnet]

when i'm playing cyberpunk my cpu utilisation is like 5% vs my 3060 ti melting

[hard drift]

i mean depending on these 1% low gains it might be worth it but i highly doubt it lol

[dull garnet]

lol

[hard drift]

[modest moss]

honestly these new cpus just reinforced that I should still be happy with my 12700k purchase

[hard drift]

i mean of course you should lol, you waited like 6 gens to upgrade 🙏

[dull garnet]

and you've had it like 1 month

[modest moss]

true, send me the 12900k when you upgrade

nope, I don't need one

[hard drift]

i'm here watching as the 3rd generation since my cpu fail to impress hoping the x3d impresses me otherwise i stay put lol 🙏