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umbral moss
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manufacturing boards can be done with machines but you still need a goon to load it and QA/QC it

potent arrow
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Shove it into a testing jig

boreal surge
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Fair enough

potent arrow
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Do it faster or we send you to the intel slave basement where they clip plastic tabs off the included fans.

odd sand
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I've got a friend that helps do board layout, but they aren't doing stuff with cutting edge litho. Probably still doing like 14nm or something

umbral moss
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at the end of the day, a huge chunk of the price inflation people are bitching about is because factories shut down for covid and all the inflated items are things that can only be made in person

odd sand
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Which makes sense tho since their thing is making electronics that survive extreme heat/cold or shock

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WFH baker pls

potent arrow
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Mmmmm

umbral moss
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but WFH jobs get paid gross amounts of money to tap at a keyboard all day, so they don't understand why things are getting so expensive

potent arrow
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ironic because the same people complain about not being able to wfm

odd sand
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I think it all depends on the job. Part of WFH was pointing out how many jobs didn't need to be in-person to do the same work, and in many cases you're more productive bc you aren't being looped into meetings for no reason all day, and randomly having ppl knocking on your door to chat for 5mins 10x a day

umbral moss
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sure, but getting paid $200k+ is a bounty to get people to congregate in silicon valley

odd sand
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Well yes, getting paid 100% the same as someone in SV doesn't make sense

umbral moss
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expecting $200k to live in bumblefuck alabama is like, grossly distorting how much liquidity is out there

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which is exactly what happened when the faang companies said you could wfh, they all fled to cheap suburbs or states

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with huge amounts of excess liquidity since they're getting paid like silicon valley

boreal surge
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Well I won’t deny I felt software engineering is overpaid and overblown. But hey everyone’s out there trying to make the world a worse place in the first place. Might as well enjoy what you can

odd sand
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I took a pay cut moving to WI from CA but it was not totally CoL adjustment drop

boreal surge
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They do adjust wages for remote work, by how much lower idk

odd sand
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I took like a 10k cut but a full CoL adjustment would have been more like 20-25k lower

umbral moss
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I'd love to never have to commute to my job 😔

sly elk
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yea that kinda shit ends up burning us hard later on

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it already is with fabs

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the whole

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"oh TSMC can't just build fabs in the US because you guys don't have people who know how to operate them and don't have the kinda engineers that you need"

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right! It's not because americans are too dumb. It's because the companies don't wanna pay americans to do that

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so the people smart enough to do that, go work for google or something and make 300-500k/year

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as for the getting paid high salary vs cheap cost of living location

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it's a very screwy supply vs demand game

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I really don't think it's wise to argue things like "don't move to Wisconsin if you wanna keep getting paid a high salary because COL!" because as an engineer I'd be shooting myself in the foot saying that

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why would I ever advocate for people to get paid less?

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that's a horrible idea.

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the way the prices of everything keep going up and up and up and never going down

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you should always advocate to improve income lol

umbral moss
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only CEOs can get paid more

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peasants should get paid bullshit and like it

umbral moss
sly elk
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my argument is that intel and to some degree, the US gov, should be trying to change that situation as hard as possible

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it may end up sounding like a foolish waste of R&D $$ but

odd sand
sly elk
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I.. don't think that bill stipulates actually trying to attract more people

umbral moss
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I'm only making a little over double what I made in 2008

sly elk
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like in an ideal world I think those companies should be trying very hard to recruit the EEs that are working as software engineers

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and anyone else with any other degree with things like free training/education

odd sand
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Part of the reason is supposedly in Y2 of the contract more money is supposed to be opened up as they overhired a bit at the start expecting attrition. So Y2 of the contract has more money for raises as some ppl have quit

umbral moss
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hardware EEs get different training/education than software EEs though

sly elk
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I'm well aware of the difference

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<- has a computer engineering degree

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at my uni there were a half dozen EE specializations

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CE was basically EE/digital systems with extra requirements haha

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very few people bothered going all the way with device physics and vlsi and other chip design stuff because it just doesn't pay lol

umbral moss
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who doesn't love to get paid $75-80k a year working 60 hours a week on a double shift line

potent arrow
sly elk
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whatever you say lol

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I found device physics fascinating but didn't continue since I didn't think it was worth the career prospects

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tbh I'm pretty happy working on the stuff i work on. though 😉

inland mauve
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what people think it's like to work in Information Security

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what it's actually like

sly elk
odd sand
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Yeah I haven't done much driving in the last 3 years

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Although I guess I compensated by going on a number of longer trips, so I've actually put more miles on in the last year than expected

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I blame the drive to Tahoe being like 5hrs or so. It being in the same state distorts your sense of distance haha Bc like atm if I go to Gencon in Indianapolis that is like a 5-6hr drive and that seems soooo far away

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Now if ppl will just let you send kids out to play without getting CPS called, think of all the extra time in a day regained /s

modest moss
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return all the drives, buy a single 8tb nvme, ez

odd sand
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Put like 10k miles on the first year I owned the Stinger. Although the 2 years before that with the Mazda I think I maybe did 6k lol

sly elk
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I'd be yeeting that motherboard by now >>

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no seriously, I would

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OOOO YOUR ICON!

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Ponta 💛

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in Ice's case there's a pretty well known issue with z690 and multiple nvme so I'd be surprised if it was a power issue

modest moss
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I have an asus z690 board with 2x nvme, wonder if mine will start vanishing

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my suggestion was semi serious

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you said you can't return the mobo but you can return the drives

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buy a single huge nvme

dull garnet
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nice pc

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does your pc work Shue

sly elk
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8tb is kinda expensive though, like $1.50/tb?

modest moss
sly elk
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on the plus side, it'd be a lot easier to do that, than it would to get a new motherboard

modest moss
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and yeah it'd probably cost him at least a few hundred extra

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just might be a solution

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My friend, it seems you're about to dive down a deep deep rabbit hole

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Godspeed

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Take it away, Ice

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my Asus z690 and 2x nvme seem fine, I almost want to try and replicate your errors

sly elk
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one suggestion

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would be to go back to the PSU's original 24pin cables

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maybe swap all the cables out for a day or two and see if the crashes go away

dull garnet
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honestly i'd only trust oem cabling

modest moss
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you'd be a fool not to rule it out

odd sand
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They said they won't allow you to exchange the board? Or did you do that and the new board has the same issues?

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Ask them if you can exchange for a different SKU then

modest moss
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I read xmp 1 is more stable/tested

dull garnet
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yes

modest moss
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feeling hashtagblessed that mine is stable after 2 weeks

sly elk
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it's just a process of elimination to make sure

modest moss
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I read xmp1 is the settings that asus has tested

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I'm not THAT interested in replicating it

sly elk
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is the auto overvolting all that big a deal?

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aside from producing extra heat?

dull garnet
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this all sounds fucked tbh

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shouldn't be necessary

modest moss
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honestly first thing I'd do is run the stock cables

sly elk
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yea there's probably a miniscule difference running XMP vs stock JEDEC timing anyway

dull garnet
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some nice ddr3 you have there

modest moss
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Ice, next time, Alienware

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ask him for the GPU story

sly elk
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yea, though I'd still be surprised if that was causing the instability

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-checks his own-

modest moss
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but that won't have been loose since the nvmes started yeeting

sly elk
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that again doesn't surprise me

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overvolting is to help stability with OCing isn't it? haha

modest moss
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maybe, could get lucky

odd sand
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Will Win10 fully support the CPU features for the new Intel CPUs or are they going to pull that nonsense where you need to be on the newest OS to use all the features?

dull garnet
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return it

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get a different board

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what?

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the fuck

modest moss
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have asus support had nothing useful to say?

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what a bios update?

dull garnet
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are trading laws fucked in canada or something?

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like this board clearly isn't fit for purpose

odd sand
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Just sell it on Amazon then and buy a different SKU

modest moss
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chargeback time

dull garnet
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round 2

modest moss
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Icehunter Strikes Chargeback

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mine are probably all auto too

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turn on xmp, play games

dull garnet
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same

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basically my only bios setting

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and disabling onboard audio

modest moss
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xmp1

sly elk
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sheeesh

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viktor thanks for your education on this topic 🙂

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I will revisit my motherboard's voltage values later lol

modest moss
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Viktor reminding me of that Psycho guy with this level of detail

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Psycho was a username btw, not a judgement lol

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he was into extreme overclocking, hung out here a while

dull garnet
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that was very common in overclocking back in the day

modest moss
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he was a bit of an OC madlad tbh, had world records in some stuff

dull garnet
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disabling all the power saving features

odd sand
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Thanks for warning me off of getting any Asus rog motherboard now when I do my upgrade tho /s

dull garnet
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i will buy msi again

dull garnet
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long as they release a white one eh? ;)

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always the way :p

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for my board they had to simplify the bios to continue fitting it on the bios chip and support more modern microcode

modest moss
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just sitting here with default kit, no rgb, no errors

dull garnet
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the max variant addresses that but i'm real happy they continued to support my board

sly elk
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I think that motherboards with black accents will still probably look fine in a white case/build with white accessories

dull garnet
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tape the ports and use white plasti dip

sly elk
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lol I think it'd look better as-is

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but I fall into the 'all pc parts are beautiful' category so I don't really care about mix-matching

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so I couldn't resist and I bought myself one of those new-in-box trashcan mac pros haha

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they of course shipped it fedex.........

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hope they don't trash the poor trashcan

dull garnet
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aren't those still really expensive?

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like I swear a used basic one was still 4 figures

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apple

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high 3 figures

sly elk
dull garnet
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wow

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considering it is new

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good price

sly elk
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yea, I know it's old af by now (they still sold them until 2019 though so, it's probably not a 9 year old unit)

dull garnet
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love the design of those

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such a cool design

sly elk
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i spent like a week thinking about it

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but I'm falling into "shit I'd buy more if I had a need for more computers" lol

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true but it's still supported

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it won't run ventura but it runs everything up to that

dull garnet
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vintage hw is cool now btw

sly elk
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and there's still 2 years of security updates for the current OS

dull garnet
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😎

sly elk
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and usually even then, it's pretty safe to keep using those soooo

dull garnet
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perfect for Halo and

sly elk
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-shrug-

dull garnet
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uhh

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Warcraft 3

sly elk
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I already have a very nice desktop that I plan to continue upgrading lmao

dull garnet
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driver support hardly matters

sly elk
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as for the 2019 mac pro

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the base model uses a fucking rx580 I think

dull garnet
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imagine buying a 2019 mac pro

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lemao

sly elk
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oh they switched it out with a w5500x

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still nothing to write home about

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w6900x is a $5400 option

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oh hardware-nerd-wise I adore the 2019 model as well

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if you look only at the specs on paper (xeon, 5500x, ram, ssd) it's an awful awful deal hahaha

dull garnet
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yeah but that isn't cool

sly elk
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but it is a machine with a like $1500 motherboard and a probably $1000 case

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we could tlak all day about how nobody needs a $1000 case and hardly anyone needs a $1500 motherboard

dull garnet
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you don't need more than $100 of either

sly elk
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it and the trash can were definitely the result of too many yes-men

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but I still enjoy admiring them

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from the hardware nerd point of view the trash can's a beautiful little machine

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the cheese grater is sexy

dull garnet
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such a cool design

sly elk
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it's the computer equivalent of buying a n embody chair when you could pay half as much and get a steelcase gesture and have the same basic performance

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yup

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the trash can's competition

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yea lol

dull garnet
# sly elk

we had one of these into the store i used to work in, i was tempted to take it

sly elk
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and I mean, those towers have their own pros like fucking 5.25" drive bays <3

dull garnet
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sleeper build a go go

sly elk
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IDK about the hp but I am not a fan of the dell version 😦

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dell thermals suck

dull garnet
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strap a fan in it

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eh my 3060 ti is fine

modest moss
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I am ready to ignore price changes as much as possible

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I mean, I bought a 3070ti FE at msrp 3 weeks ago, so I'll definitely ignore prices lol

odd sand
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Yeah atm I honestly dont know what to expect. Like if ppl looking for a card should buy now or wait for 40 series

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The realist in me says since Nvidia is bloating the cards for the 40 series, they're probably going to set the MSRP at like 30% higher than 30 series even if they're swimming in cards

dull garnet
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i haven't even played a 3d game on my pc in like 3 months

modest moss
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I'm playing yakuza like a dragon atm

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and a little powerwash simulator

potent arrow
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Lol that announcement

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Christ discord security is so shit

potent arrow
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Dude is your motherboard ok

hard drift
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it's busted smh

sly walrus
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just like redout was when it hit egs

odd sand
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Imagine trusting Discord with payment info

sly walrus
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imagine trusting

modest moss
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Claimed it earlier lol, I love me a free game

odd sand
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EGS 🤮

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Imagine using unsigned npm packages

modest moss
sly elk
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I love how they nail the amazing HR hair vs messy programmer hair

dull garnet
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hey shue

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cut grass

hard drift
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this isn't the first free game that has had problems which makes me question whether it's the platform deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

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Still cheaper than thermalgrizzly

sly elk
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So like 3 Ugga Duggas?

modest moss
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I should actually benchmark mine at some point

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My gpu sure gets hotter than that though haha

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Is cinebench free?

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is that the lad?

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do I just click start on multicore?

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you mean minimum test duration off?

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multi or single?

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multi?

hard drift
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it's more expensive though

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and using hbm3 or whatever nvidia would surely charge that much more if they did

modest moss
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is it meant to be that fast?

hard drift
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i mean can't compare new tech to old stuff for cost

modest moss
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it says 22888

hard drift
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professional only

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it makes 0 sense for consumers

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the gains are too low and people wouldn't pay the prices for it except the highest end pretty much

modest moss
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hurrah I'm beating their 12700k result by a whopping 76

hard drift
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margin of error 🙏

modest moss
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just gonna leave this thing on basic bitch boost

modest moss
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Single core test is slow af

tame tartan
modest moss
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winner

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@tame fulcrum is your shit still bluescreening

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so you might be fixed?

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miracles do happen

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next time maybe don't buy for aesthetics

hard drift
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buying for aesthetics is literally the worst especially for a white build 🙏

umbral moss
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why though, are you looking to break your CPU for epeen?

modest moss
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73c here

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oh up to 85c on Enhanced

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that's enough for me

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DTS temps are always a little lower than Enhanced

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also would make sense for mine to throttle on a torture test, I'm on air and Ice is on fancy water shit

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quite impressed how quickly cpu has gone back below 30c though

umbral moss
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doesn't avx2 automatically force the multiplier throttle through the bios?

modest moss
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I was rocking a 4690k until 2 weeks ago, get out of here with your fancy new 6th gen

umbral moss
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ah, that was a blast back in the day, telling people to run furmark and then laughing when people said their computers stopped working

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33C 😩

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better

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😌

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I know

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it's the best when you go outside and you can feel the moisture vaporizing out of your skin

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nice and hot

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perfection

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manila is like florida though

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like getting hit in the face with a wet towel

modest moss
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I managed to set the psu cable into my gtx 960 on fire once

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it wasn't fully plugged in

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didn't kill gpu or psu either, just had to swap out the modular cable

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maybe it was my 560ti actually

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idk, it was a while back

sly elk
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msi

odd sand
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They sell SPF15 still even? Anything under like SPF30 is worthless and even then you should probably have SPF50

odd sand
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SPF150 sounds like pure zinc lol

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Or just wear a hoodie at that rate

potent arrow
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I can taste it lol

modest moss
potent arrow
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Shuue

umbral moss
sly elk
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just a weee bit

jaunty light
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I too should east 20 bucks

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Waste.. east.. same thing

sly walrus
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i should south some money sometime

dull garnet
sly elk
boreal surge
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Speaking of AC, TFW I'm thinking about going to office on fri cause I don't wanna find out how hot it is at home during the day

sly elk
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classic GM

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i mean

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having ccooled seats kinda makes up for it

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but imagine having cooled seats and a crotch vent

sly elk
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ye

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stop yankin my chain

umbral moss
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has a few OK moments but is largely unliked?

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evga made a weird carbon fiber frame that isn't exactly a case and decided to charge $1600 for it?

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hasn't evga learned their lesson that they don't make good products when they try something out of their core competency of GPUs

umbral moss
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unstable at those clocks

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need more volts or less megahurtz

modest moss
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Every fucking day there's a new ice thing

umbral moss
willow comet
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what ram kit is this?

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not unheard of xmp spec not being stable on corsair dimms / few other kits

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might be able to loosen the subtimings leave primary alone and itll work perfectly fine

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oof.. yeah corsair ram has never been great.. to be honest if the kit is new enough you can probably return and get a new kit or go through warranty send it back and let them send a new kit

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dont risk overclocking and risk losing warranty options

latent grotto
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Should've just bought g skill

willow comet
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rip! yeah corsair is one of the few "big brands" that still doesnt sell consistently performing high performace kits of a ram especially for the rpice they sell them it its pretty wild... trident z all the way StronkApprove

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their binning process must be terrible over there

modest moss
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Nobody said these things when I was buying corsair ram a few weeks ago

willow comet
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rip!

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not many people in the ram oc field lol including me i am still noob

modest moss
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I've never had issues with corsair tbh

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And xmp1 seems fine

willow comet
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ive had a good amount of problems with lpx in the past, and again problems like this are still a small percent case to case, but on a company wide perspective their return rates/failure rates of kits is actually a problem they should invest in fixing

modest moss
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Maybe I just did a good job and also got lucky at picking parts that play nice together

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I'm not doing anything extreme though

willow comet
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yeah i mean its all luck of the draw lpx being some of the worst but even at that its only a 5ish % chance of getting a bad kit, its just all volume at which they sell 5% is really high

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550$ dead kit SMILERS

modest moss
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Amd killed it haha

willow comet
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their nicest ram should really have zero problem hitting xmp/above xmp even the cheapest crucial ballistix kits just about every single kit will hit far beyond xmp

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trident z being one of the best kits for overclocking with samsung b.die

modest moss
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I just don't have the energy to min max my rig these days

willow comet
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yeah ram oc is awfully slow and boring

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5hours - 2 days to get the most.. with a high chance of just killing the kit

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but the most gains as well

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but at this point 30 series gpu's and new cpu's give well enough performance that its not even worth the time

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40 series right around the corner with double the performance rumors still holding true

modest moss
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This new build seems stable, performs pretty well, got a decent cinebench score and doesn't explode running prime 95 so I'm content

willow comet
modest moss
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Lemme see if I still have the pcpartpicker url

willow comet
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awesome

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lol came here for ffxiv knowledge and i always end up talking tech Kek

modest moss
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willow comet
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aye very nice, love the look of the nh-d15 and especially in the h510 flow all black everything looks great,

you should pickup the noctua chromax black covers for it StronkApprove i have pics of them on a black and white build i did for a friend

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the caps are about 30$ iirc

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they just slide over the cooler very easy to install

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they come in black too

modest moss
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I don't care about aesthetics in my computer at all tbh

willow comet
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SuperSadCatto touche

modest moss
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No rgb etc

willow comet
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yeah no rgb for me here either but i do like aesthetics

modest moss
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It's not in sight either

willow comet
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My 2nd system (3090 is in my main computer but for the pic it’s in here)

willow comet
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im ultra nerdy lol

hard drift
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Anybody could have told you that

willow comet
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yeah i mean. 12900k lol can't really get anything better than that rn xD

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loool

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yeah.. its pretty overkill for 99% of users

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but depending on when you purchased might be late since amd pcu's releasing soon, and new intel 13th gen

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pcmaster race and a lot of the tech specfic servers have build list shills

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very very harsh on hardware purchased if its not absolute bang for the buck value

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new amd probably not goign to be worth no matter how good the cpu is, they are ddr5 only motherboards and ddr5 still sucks especially for how expensive it is lol

hard drift
modest moss
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At least Ice actually needs a chonky pc for work and has a decent amount of money

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Can't believe I just defended Ice

willow comet
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still not going to be in anones bang for the buck builds/value though

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more for the enthusiast or higher end budget market

hard drift
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It’d be a waste to go 13th gen and not ddr5 if they are true so i mean we’ll see in the end

willow comet
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yeah for those going 13th gen very true, too bad most people that went 12th gen got ddr4 boards not expecting the gains to be great with ddr5, but its also a much bigger investment for no real worthy gains on time of release of 12th gen

modest moss
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I'm not a fan of looking at next gen, just buy the best thing you can afford when you need a new thing

willow comet
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catyes yeah im still on 5000 series amd back when 5950x came out, and 3970x for workstation as it was all the best at the time of building and i dont plan to upgrade until theres really a big step up thats worth the change / once my system feels dated and then ill repeat the process in probably another 2 years

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i do upgrade gpu's but thats all

hard drift
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I’m going to see how good/bad 7000 is before i decide, i kind of want to wait for 8000 though

willow comet
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yeah when the tech jumps this high after 1 generation if you already have previous best wait for the new technology to be perfected (good ddr5 in this case in hopefully another year)

modest moss
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Bidori you don't need to upgrade

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Save your money

willow comet
hard drift
willow comet
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no such thing as "need" to get us to buy the new loot!

modest moss
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Pay college tuition instead my dude

hard drift
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It’d be a waste for me

willow comet
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although im lucky enough to do commission builds for people on the high end so i can not spend my own money and still enjoy working with the new tech

modest moss
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Sticking with dicks?

willow comet
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MonkaS wut

modest moss
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Lol bidori works there

willow comet
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oh

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hahaha

hard drift
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If i choose to do any schooling it’d be a trade

willow comet
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i didnt do any college but i also want to do as little as possible for as much as possible Teehee

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i can't see myself working in construction for high amounts of money

modest moss
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That still costs no?

hard drift
willow comet
modest moss
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Trade school I mean

#

Fair enough

hard drift
#

I could pay it in one paycheck pretty much

modest moss
#

Do it

hard drift
#

It’s a matter of focus and choosing something i like

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I have neither for that

willow comet
#

in this job market right now trades are needed.. can actually make some insane money

modest moss
#

Will probably encourage my son to learn a trade rather than university, he's not as academically inclined as my daughter

willow comet
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i work in the offices of a construction business some of our carpenters/foreman make 180k a year lol

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plus all their benefits

hard drift
#

Yeah, trades can make some really good money

willow comet
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location matters though

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wont make that in florida lol

hard drift
#

I’m set for location lol

willow comet
fair parcel
#

trade is the play anymore IMO

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unless going for adv degree

modest moss
#

My son is only 10 though so we'll see

willow comet
modest moss
#

His ideal job right now is building lego displays lol

fair parcel
#

lol

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that's the dream

willow comet
#

thats good for the brain lol

hard drift
#

Real job but supposedly a pain in the ass

modest moss
#

I told him it's not impossible but he'd have to get lucky and have a backup plan

willow comet
#

i could imagine that being creatively exhausting at a point

modest moss
#

He'd hate that I think, but he's 10 so he'll probably change massively in the next few years

willow comet
#

alright people im outta here for now, going to get some lunch and finish up my friday here at the office so i can get gaming, im still super new to ffxiv only level 23 .. this weekend is grind time

modest moss
#

Get on that msq and don't be afraid to ask for help

potent arrow
#

this game SUCKS

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I played 1 hour and QUIT

modest moss
potent arrow
#

TRUE FACTS

willow comet
#

thats the goal this weekend

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but yeah taking my time through the msq's getting all the lore CB_kanna_sip

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i just require goobbue mount and minion

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its gotta happen

empty token
#

anyone here with ipadOS16 beta?

umbral moss
#

22% faster than intel, but at what cost 😔

hard drift
#

the cost of ddr5 🙏

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i mean we can 100% assume it's lower power atleast

umbral moss
#

DDR5 finally catching up to DDR4 in performance?

hard drift
#

yeah, it's almost there

umbral moss
#

or is it still in that miserable "we're fucking around with board design trying to get the thing working in spec" stage

hard drift
#

probably a bit of both lol

dull garnet
#

new product faster than competitor old product is how it should be

hard drift
#

yeah

#

but the real question is how much faster will 13th gen be than 12th gen

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especially since it's a tok architecture i don't think we'll see that big of gains

umbral moss
#

also especially since half the die is tied up in high efficiency cores

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so there's no ornery V8 equivalent on intel's side

hard drift
#

haha yeah but who knows, maybe it'll pay off

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need to see how the new i5 is deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

umbral moss
#

can't post the gifs but imagine the gif of the pig shitting on its balls

hard drift
#

i'd rather not namazuconcern

umbral moss
#

intel has a long way to go before they have engineering dominance again

hard drift
umbral moss
#

they spent too long trying to strangle amd enough to stay market dominant but not so dominant that they get sued

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amd has an extremely powerful poison pill so they can't even be bought out assuming they did shit the bed again haha

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isn't dall-e open source?

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just compile it yourself on your $25k machine

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put that 3090 SLI to use

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with all the broken parts you've put into it it cost $25k haha

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I think the one on the left used the pogchamp guy as a reference haha

deep sapphire
#

you cry about intel rumors

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but post AMD

dull garnet
#

poggies

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wanna trade pcs? duckling

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

you guys see this

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can you believe it

hard drift
#

Great news: Everyone who currently has a reservation can get their Steam Deck by the end of this year! We’ve cleared up supply chain issues, a bunch of folks got moved up to Q3, and all other reservations are now in Q4.

More details here:
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umbral moss
#

what about the steam deck 2

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is valve going to take 12 years to release that too?

dull garnet
#

more importantly the analogue pocket got a fw update

umbral moss
#

great for all 6 people who got one before they ran out of parts

#

I kind of wish someone would revive the nomad and let us play genesis emu on the go

#

I'm sure making a FPGA version of the genesis SOC has to have way better battery life

dull garnet
umbral moss
#

nintendo just waiting for nvidia to make another critical blunder with the shield tablet so they can get a fat discount scraping the serial numbers off

#

I mean, nintendo can update the switch whenever they please

#

it's not like they're hurting for sales or losing money on them

#

who wouldn't want to make money off the hardware too

#

I'm still salty that the dreamcast doesn't have a re-release in the cards

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uh... that's around kepler?

#

the initial switch release was literally nintendo picking up all of nvidia's recalled shield tablets at a discount lmao

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since that release was plagued with self destruct failures due to shit thermal management

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nintendo just dropped the clock to a manageable level and called it a day

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which is why it's like, 640p on a good day

dull garnet
#

switch is like the most boring nintendo hardware to me

umbral moss
#

#bringbackthejack

sly elk
dull garnet
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i don't

sly elk
#

it's been out years and up until 3 months ago they were still going for MSRP, and they still haven't made a zelda exclusive for it 😄

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I realize some people count BOTW as zelda for the switch, but that was a wii u title 😄

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i think the problem is nintendo just... kinda sucks...

umbral moss
sly elk
#

hehe

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if they catch up with steam deck orders

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i wonder how well the steam deck will be selling next june

modest moss
#

steam deck isn't worth 500 quid to me

sly elk
#

so far valve has a great track record with selling hardware

#

first there was that creepy controller

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then there was the tv streaming box

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and then the valve index

modest moss
#

@tame fulcrum buy me a steamdeck babe

sly elk
#

valve has a habit of launching things with a lot of fanfare

#

that are quickly forgotten

umbral moss
#

google?

sly elk
#

HAHHAHAHA

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yea but when steam makes a product they keep selling it/supporting it for a long time

#

google just abruptly kills shit

dull garnet
#

steam deck isn't really expensive when you look at its competitors

sly elk
#

the best thing you can hope for with a google product

#

is that they sell it before they get bored of it and kill it

umbral moss
#

like nik photo?

sly elk
#

ugh

umbral moss
#

which google bought for some unfathomable reason and they haven't done anything with?

sly elk
#

at least they didn't kill it like they did picasa

#

it irritates the shit out of me that they'd do that

#

"were just going to buy this thing and uh kill it lol "

#

apple likes doing that too though

#

i think siri was an android app, and there were several other android/ios apps where apple bnought the company and killed the android version

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though apple also does the MS version

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steals the idea and makes it part of their product

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but then apple is evil because they'll ban the product from the app store for duplicating functionality haha

modest moss
dull garnet
modest moss
#

yeah same, that's why Ice is buying me one

dull garnet
#

you could edit spreadsheets on the toilet!

umbral moss
#

"try"

#

more like "silently do and pretend they don't"

#

he doesn't know duckduckgo uses microsoft's software

#

I knew a guy who worked on the search algorithm

umbral moss
#

a pittance for icehunter

dull garnet
#

$80,000 is approx how much ice has spent on his pc so far

#

well a rolex will appreciate while a tv won't

#

cringe

hard drift
#

A regular watch will still far outlast your phone if ever needed

odd sand
#

The only watch I would get at this point is one of those GPS ones for hiking bc its a lot more convenient to glance at the watch bc its handsfree

dull garnet
hard drift
dull garnet
#

shitizen

odd sand
#

What do you mean?

hard drift
dull garnet
#

glass side panel

odd sand
#

I assume you would have to get them a smartwatch with LTE and enable Google latitude on it. Battery life would theoretically last the day

#

Apple Tag them vivsmug

#

The watch is probably ideal if you can trust them to keep wearing it and not fidget and take it off

#

The transponders have to be left in their bag or maybe sewn into a pocket on their outfits

#

Are you having her walk to school or something?

#

Well maybe the transponder is best then and just put it on them for field trips. At a certain age though I feel like that sort of thing is a violation of trust unless they know about it and are okay with it

modest moss
#

I'm reluctant to track my kids tbh

#

I can do android find my phone in an emergency on my daughter's but eh

odd sand
#

As I said, I think when they're very young its one thing, but by the time they're in the upper elementary grades it's a bit much

#

That's just the thing: The news pummels you, but the number of cases is actually way down

modest moss
#

that's the thing Ice, I don't want to project MY anxiety onto them, I want to equip them with confidence and common sense

odd sand
#

I understand the conflict between the logical and emotional sides tho

modest moss
#

it's hard though yeah

#

how old now?

odd sand
#

Import one of those Japanese child alarm buttons for her haha

modest moss
#

oh still easy mode lol

#

my daughter is 14 this year

#

trust me, 5 is cake compared to the anxiety of sending them out and about with other teenagers

#

nah, you gotta just keep them trusting you enough that they'll talk

#

just wait until you've had the 'joy' of dealing with her having to slap a boy because he grabbed her breast on international women's day, of all days

#

that's parental anxiety lol

potent arrow
#

Lol imagine trusting your parents

#

Could not be me

#

I'm in the the camp of all parents are shit 👼

modest moss
#

you can't do that when he's a ND kid and she doesn't want you to get involved

#

neurodivergent

umbral moss
#

you also need to teach your kids that ultraviolence is reserved for certain kinds of offenses

#

not every situation justifies taking out lucille

modest moss
#

like yeah I could have gone and caused a fuss, slapped the kid myself

umbral moss
#

but when she's thirsty, it better be for a reason

modest moss
#

or I let her handle it and know I had her back, so she feels confident enough to handle whatever comes next if I'm not around

modest moss
potent arrow
#

Shue why can't you be my parent

odd sand
#

Ehh there are woodchips and kids bounce, its fine vivsmug

#

When I went to elementary school we still had a 2-story metal slide and a firemans pole

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So it was a good 7-8ft off the ground

dull garnet
#

Naughty Dog

odd sand
#

We'd still just jump off the platform for the firemans pole without using it half the time

umbral moss
#

we never had cool dangerous stuff at my elementary school 😔

odd sand
#

There was another structure that was about that high at the top with a central pillar with old tires bolted vertically at 90 degree angles you had to jump up or down otherwise open ground below it. There were wooden step platforms around the sides you could jump off the tires onto tho

potent arrow
#

We had those centrifugal spiny things

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Not the merry go round

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But the solo ones

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We would try to spin people as fast as possible until their noses bled

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It was kinda fucked

odd sand
#

They have a couple of those at a local playground I found, was actually surprised

potent arrow
#

Those things are so fucked

#

If you put a dirt bike on it's side

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And the drive wheel on it

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Holy shit you can really

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REALLY yeet simeone

odd sand
#

There is one you just sit on and rotate, then there is this one where you have to rotate the top while spinning your hips as well, it's pretty fun

#

This is actually an older picture bc they added a whole new playground structure in that empty space in this pic

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So both the top and bottom are rotating and since you have more stability you can really get spinning fast

#

Probably a twisted ankle waiting to happen but its fun haha

devout nexus
deep sapphire
#

looks awful and you should feel awful for buying it

devout nexus
#

Haha how come?

#

That's weird first I've heard of it interesting

odd sand
# devout nexus :3

Can you get the case without the tacky green tube on the front and the character logo on top? Bc otherwise it looks really nice

devout nexus
#

i cannot :/

#

its just a unique one they just dropped.

#

thanks for the intel icehunter ill pass it along

odd sand
#

My friend has a 3d printer, I should just figure out the dimensions and get him to make a custom shroud for me heh

potent arrow
#

Make sure it's abs lol

#

PLA will def start to sag

sly elk
devout nexus
#

not out yet, asked for 50

royal forge
#

Hey dont drag me into this

#

My laptop has been KINDA ok

#

Screen turned black only once

modest moss
#

Again, my asus z690 with 2x nvme doesn't do this

royal forge
#

Hahaha then sufferrrr

#

But for real

#

Hav u isolated the cause?

deep sapphire
#

Lmao this company is such trash

fair parcel
#

Ford would never

sly elk
lime wasp
#

Sorry mistell.

sly elk
#

he

#

this all makes sense now

#

the only reliable SSD is the one getting PCIE lanes from the CPU

hollow hamlet
#

This looks very nice. I am jealous.

sly elk
#

i was talking about ice, afaik he never had issues with the m.2 in the first slot 🙂 but you have spent a lot of time helping him so I don't think we need to revisit this 😄 you did awesome 😄

#

love how the most helpful nerd here has Ponta as their avatar 😄

#

yea I remember

#

I still need to get rid of auto on mine 😄

#

but my rig is almost 4 years old and hasn't had stability issues so

#

dayum

burnt swallow
#

How

sly elk
#

(I mean I did have stability issues but replacing my evga 750g3 with a corsair rm1000x fixed them)

#

the fun kinda failure

#

that's the "I bought my case from a seller on ebay and it came with a free brand x power supply!" failure

#

isn't your house new-ish?

#

ahh

#

ok I understand now

#

the ACs don't have their own circuits?

#

o_O

#

i thought you had a fancy house

burnt swallow
#

Is this where I can come to ask for advice on putting a PC together with PC Parts Picker shycarby

#

RTX 3090
Where in God's name did you get the money to afford that

modest moss
#

unsurprisingly, 1 & 2

#

the Noctua is working great for me

burnt swallow
#

The first two comments for the motherboard are issues about it LUL

#

What's the performance difference roughly between 3060Ti and 3070/3070Ti?

#

Also isn't that Noctua just a giant fan

modest moss
#

it's a giant heatsink with 2 fans

#

keeps my 12700k at like 30c idle

sly elk
#

dual tower heatsink with 2 140mm fans? something like that

#

gotta point out though: that's the noctua NH-D15. They have other coolers that are different configurations.

burnt swallow
#

Will it even fit in my case then LUL

sly elk
#

for example the nh-d12

#

and the NH-C14S

modest moss
burnt swallow
modest moss
#

yes it does

burnt swallow
#

I lied

#

The kit for it got added in May

#

If their timeline is correct

modest moss
#

you just have to either make sure you buy from a seller who have latest stock, OR you contact noctua and they'll send you a bracket np

hard drift
#

probably a good time to invest in intel assuming they get their shit together real soon

devout nexus
#

i doubt it, there was rumors they cancelling their gpu division

#

probably cant compete, plus they stopped building 3d xpoint this week. they also having to oursource their chip production

hard drift
devout nexus
#

short term MBA gutted it real good for short term gains and bonuses. i got a lot of faith in pat gelsinger but they basically ripped that companies guts out for a yacht

deep sapphire
hard drift
#

it was just what popped up 😔 not a specific source

burnt swallow
#

Oh

#

How does it perform in terms of cooling though

#

Cause I'm planning to play me some Cold War Zombies with my dad

#

Oh

hard drift
burnt swallow
#

It's also half the price of what I chose damn

hard drift
#

wtf did you choose?

#

i mean they're still pretty solid

burnt swallow
#

This but a 3060 Ti instead of a 3070 Ti

#

Because 3070 Ti is expensive

deep sapphire
hard drift
#

i literally have 0 clue what he's talking about 😔

#

not really a release when it's only in like two places

#

plus they've been delaying it forever now so them cancelling it wouldn't be surprising

#

the igpus were shit anyways haha

#

yes but they're on an architecture they're moving away from completely

#

and the driver support was trash anyways

burnt swallow
#

What GPU card

#

Wut

#

Oof

hard drift
#

it's not a full release

#

and it's been a while since they released it there and still haven't made it global

burnt swallow
#

Oofus

devout nexus
#

o interesting Viktor

#

let me check this article out

odd sand
#

Just pour an ice cold bath and sit in that all day instead of running the A/C taps forehead

devout nexus
#

news to me contradicts other videos i saw

#

dman thats sad

#

intel is also kind of missing the entire AI boat as well which is def th e future

#

without graphics cards to do linear algebra

#

GG intel honestly

#

i bet gov will keep them alive though

burnt swallow
#

What would be the AMD equivalent more or less to the i7-12700K and 3060 Ti? shycarby

odd sand
#

Buying an AMD GPU... disgustedaura

hard drift
odd sand
#

the hardware no, the drivers yes =X

hard drift
#

the drivers literally aren't that bad anymore

#

unless they're going navi first gen

#

navi first gen was a shitshow, second gen is just fine smh

odd sand
#

Also I wouldn't say the 5800x3d is 12700k, that would be more like comparing to the 12900k

autumn epoch
#

!unmute 1001176480891543572

opal pantherBOT
#
Success!

@fringe tartan has been unmuted by @autumn epoch.

autumn epoch
#

yea

hard drift
burnt swallow
#

When did you even get muted

hard drift
burnt swallow
#

F

odd sand
#

It's interesting, the 3D vcache makes the 5800 do well in games, but it kills it in general performance. So if you onl ycare about gaming go for it

#

But if you want good performance outside of games, maybe go with a non vcache

sly elk
#

so the trick here

#

amd cpu, amd gpu 😄

#

best combo!

#

in a laptop!

#

i admit, the 5700xt was fun to play with

#

the 3080ti has felt the same, except it gives better fps 😉

#

but it consumes a stupid amount of power and produces a stupid amount of heat so, good nuff

burnt swallow
burnt swallow
#

Also how does Radeon RX 6700XT compare to GeForce RTX 3060 Ti

#

I can get it for a little cheaper than the 3060 Ti

#

If it's comparable

hard drift
#

they're about the same the only benefit an nvidia card has is dlss if a game supports it

burnt swallow
#

I have no idea what that is

hard drift
burnt swallow
#

Do Radeon GPUs throw a fit when paired with Intel CPUs or not really

hard drift
burnt swallow
hard drift
#

i have 0 clue how that performs on amd or nvidia gpus aside from 20 series lol

burnt swallow
#

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X how would this compare to the i7-12700K

#

It's like $40 less than the i7 shycarby

hard drift
burnt swallow
#

How much slower

deep sapphire
#

Ooooooh banana

#

You can use addons to force MSAA and probably other less taxing methods

#

Nothing gives you a migraine harder than the trees shimmering

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

Only on AMD

#

Oh hey bidori

deep sapphire
#

What’s up

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

FXAA is the most useless shit ever thanks nvidia for inventing it

deep sapphire
#

I mean it’s true

hard drift
hard drift
deep sapphire
deep sapphire
#

No

sly elk
#

oh wait she isn't naked

deep sapphire
burnt swallow
#

I have no idea what that is

deep sapphire
#

FXAA was invented as a “high performance anti aliasing technology” but all it does is blur the whole image

#

It’s a lazy method lol

jaunty light
#

fools that like fxaa rae blind change my mind

deep sapphire
#

I blame AMD

#

For my failed marriage

#

And everything else

#

She told me she loved ford

#

I signed the papers the same day

burnt swallow
#

If a board says it supports DDR5 is DDR4 incompatible with it?

sly elk
#

i'm not loyal to any particular brand

#

I... just happen to keep buying chrysler/jeep stuff.....

#

I heard there might be a next gen chrysler 300 sooooo

burnt swallow
#

Oh

burnt swallow
#

Amazon now has everything except my PSU

#

FML

#

So uhh

#

How good is the shipping from Newegg?

jaunty light
#

most of it ships from CA but it aint free usually

hard drift
jaunty light
#

they charged me $8 fuckin dollars for a $300 PSU! what a rip off

hard drift
#

Especially since honey coupons work more often

deep sapphire
sly elk
#

since i'm also in ca

#

sometimes newegg does next day delivery

#

in which case they use their own delivery service lol

jaunty light
sly elk
#

that's cheap if it came from germany

jaunty light
#

yea with newegg I have a good shot of getting overnight for the price of cheap

sly elk
#

but isn't all your stuff corsair?!

jaunty light
#

but amazon usually uses their SB distro centers for me so i get it in a day or two

#

i'd cry if I added up my shipping costs from stuff I buy from japan

sly elk
#

i feel like

#

if you look at something enough on amazon

#

they pre-emptively ship it to a local facility lmao

#

ok idk if they actually do that, but it'd be cool if their logistics were that slick

burnt swallow
odd sand
#

Remember that free shipping from Amazon isn't free anyways, they just bake it into their prices

#

And also make their employees piss in bottles or get fired

#

So if you wonder why they have the margins to offer that... there you go

jaunty light
#

cant beefleaf you'd expose amazon like this

#

those are zen bottles™️ specially developed to replace bathrooms, 9 in 10 managers agree it is superior!

sly elk
#

if i had to pee in a bottle because work

#

i'm gonna leave the bottle on my boss' desk

#

along with a letter telling them what they can do with that bottle

sly elk
#

oh wow LGR briefly showed sonic R in his sega saturn video

#

nais

royal forge
sly walrus
#

oh god they look so old

royal forge
#

simon looks p old

#

lewis went all the way to crazy old man

#

i swear lewis is nuts

royal forge
#

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

#

23k errors?!

#

how the fuck

paper tusk
jaunty light
#

is that a ponta I see

paper tusk
#

and the (cpu) internal pcie clock generator 😐

sly elk
#

holy monitor bezel batman

#

it's a giant drawing tablet screen

sly walrus
# sly elk

why are the mouse and keyboard on different levels

sly elk
#

I guess the huge bezel makes it more comfortable to draw around the edges

#

also, keyboard drawer desks tend to have such a small drawer that you have to use the mouse that way

#

actually yea

#

idk about regular screens but I've had that happen with my ultrawides

#

it's almost always a cable issue

#

and not a "your cable is broken" issue but something more along the lines of 'try turning the computer and the monitor off and turning them both back on"

#

which almost always fixes it

#

but like

#

my work mac laptop sleeps the screen after 3 mins of inactivity

#

so my screen would go to sleep like 20 times a day hahaha

#

so I get a lot of chances for things to go wrong and get sync'd in a fucked up way where half my screen starts spazzing and doesn't stop until I power cycle it

#

adding the kvm actually kinda fixed the problem!

sly elk
#

since I bought a cable matters KVM and they make a lot of certified cables

jaunty light
#

is that just a drawing tablet they're using as a monitor

sly elk
#

and the cables that came with it are nice high quality certified cables

#

so it seemed to make the dock that I plug my laptop into very happy

#

instead of the off-brand 15ft cable I use from my desk to the kvm hahaha

#

ye honk, for sure

#

yea those fancy cables

#

geez the ones that came with my kvm aren't that fancy

#

try turning your screen off and back on

#

sigh

#

cable management xD

#

note the kvm just hanging back there lmao

#

i had it on top of the mac mini

#

but the weight of the cables pulled it off

#

does the lone engineer piss in the potted plant instead of taking bathroom breaks?

#

lol

#

good ole ASUS

#

i'm kinda enjoying that pic. fun to see my setup from a different angle

#

had to take it with my arms stretched up/out all the way xD

#

goo night

jaunty light
#

this object needs to be removed then everything will be fine

sly elk
#

lol

#

I'm actually adding another mac

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i have no idea yet where i'm going to put it

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personal and work?

jaunty light
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you know one of the weirdest things I saw was a remote admin job for mostly windows and then

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"choice of mac or windows laptop"

sly elk
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Ya know, I wish I saw that on job ads more often

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I really do

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TOSS A LINUX OPTION IN TOO YOU COWARDS!

jaunty light
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yeah gibs me arch laptop

sly elk
jaunty light
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look at all that dust

sly elk
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right XD

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he has more computers than i do

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XD

jaunty light
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damn giving out feet pics for free

sly elk
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i sit now

jaunty light
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idk what I can even do with so many exams, I guess I can also do the architect cert

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keeping current—five additional certifications
nevermind wtf

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idk why they still have this requirement because a lot of the openshift or ansible creds got baked into the RHCSA or RHCE tracks now

sly elk
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here

jaunty light
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Get ya company to pay it

sly elk
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damn

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i paid about that much for my 3080ti

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now you can get a case and a psu with that too

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and that case is really nice

jaunty light
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tru

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my contractor will only reimburse so they can get fucked

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thankfully i inherit big navy stuff so I get all RHEL training free and all RHEL certs free as long as they have the contract

sly elk
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the helio sgundam is better though

jaunty light
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the engineer path seems kinda easy now since it's .. i think 100% ansible based?

sly elk
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y

jaunty light
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they legit just took the "automation specialist" cert and made it the RHCE cert

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I mean I can write python (a little) still I just can't do math i'm too dumb

sly elk
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pandas

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use pandas

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the timing of your response and my falling asleep at the idea of messing with ansible were impeccably timed

jaunty light
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it definitely aint hard it does everything for you

jaunty light
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kyanche
pls automation
dnf
"icehunter"
"latest"

sly elk
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next we'll be talking about salt stack

jaunty light
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perfect i have done the yaml

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man I looked at jinja and it looked terrible

jaunty light
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{% set auditd = salt['grains.filter_by']({
'RedHat': { 'package': 'audit' },
'Debian': { 'package': 'auditd' },
}) %}

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whoever thought this was a good idea needs to be taken out back