🆕｜sd3

[odd basalt]

Hahahaha

[sage burrow]

With mine you don't need to add the word cat......

lady or man works lolololol

[odd basalt]

Oooo

[edgy kelp]

That cat look a little too round, is it ball?

[odd basalt]

😂 I’m such a blonde

[odd basalt]

Shh it’s just Furr not a ball 😂

[sage burrow]

I made it look like a regular txt2img, but I snuck anthro furry into everything lolol (same with my other img2img one 😉

[edgy kelp]

Big Round Head cat strain I reckon

[odd basalt]

Nothing wrong with that at all

[odd basalt]

He may have ate ur ball

[edgy kelp]

Oh shoots

Darn, a human got neutered by a cat, tables are turning at the speed of the light

[sage burrow]

I replaced all the furry references with Madball. It doesn't work all the time, but sometimes: https://glif.app/@LadyLalita/glifs/clyd621a10000yha2zalqjbb3

It works especially well with monsters 😄

[sage burrow]

I made it a bit better: https://glif.app/@LadyLalita/glifs/clyd621a10000yha2zalqjbb3

Monster balls is difficult to talk Claude into!

Telling Claude it's an exptert in art througout the ages probably didn't help

[uncut river]

easy

😛

[sage burrow]

A burger wtih ketchup LOLOL

a cat

[uncut river]

infected by fractal gremlin dna

[sage burrow]

That sounded like a good prompt to me:

[torn wharf]

balls

[edgy kelp]

I think my balls has autism

[mortal mesa]

should i be passing SDUltimateupscale a lower shift in general? just had a thought

[torn wharf]

use my balls lora on the same prompts. it's highly effective

[uncut river]

balls lora? for sdxl then?

[sage burrow]

I'm testing glif to see how much prompts alone can do... I'd say about half of what an actual lora can

[uncut river]

uh, what is a glif?

[sacred jewel]

With LoRA

Without LoRA

Both BALLZ and SPYWORLD50 LoRAs at 100%

[mortal mesa]

webgen that has SD3 license

lucky i had my glasses on for that one

[sage burrow]

https://glif.app/@LadyLalita/glifs/clyd621a10000yha2zalqjbb3 for example. Basically you can input various things, such as text2img in SD3, or img2img, then add additional aspects such as Claude helping with the prompting, upscaling etc. You can create your own on there as well from base glifs. It's all online versions of SD3, is why I started using it. My poor GPU lol

[torn wharf]

prompting is always king. especially now that we have a t5 on a dit network

i thought glif only made realy cheap low brow memes. i didn't know they had actual models hooked up

i always see their glif logo on the lamest of the memes

[sage burrow]

I started a Monsterballs one, if you want to remix it 😄

I can't find any for inpainting, nor for lora creation though. So they only do so much.

[bitter hearth]

whats the best way to generate images from some group picures?

[uncut river]

ah, ok. so one of the few online sd3 resources

with additional features

[odd basalt]

Yes

[sage burrow]

Huggingface has some as well

[uncut river]

im happy with my sd3 medium running local on 12gb vram amd gpu

it's just great in flexibility on styles and prompting different subject and compositions. still not great with hands, bodies and poses.

how long now? 1,7 weeks or so before the update ?! 😄

[sage burrow]

Hands are the only problem I've been having lately. Fortunately most poses the person just happens to have their hands sideways

[uncut river]

I tried "holding a jar" but that was a fail

[uncut river]

plz do an insect monster with many eyes

but cute and colorful

[uncut river]

dont see many eyes, but still two eyes is cute!

and those many eyes ... sorry not cute

[low stone]

I think cute overrides many because to be cute the eyes must be big.

[uncut river]

hmm, yes. probably

[sage burrow]

fluffy! 😄

hmmmmm lol

That's GPT4o

[low stone]

Ok 2 more eyes.

[noble coyote]

SD3@ClipDrop

[uncut river]

2.5D anime style ... or too realistic?

[sage burrow]

Can you add Loras and/or Custom models with Clipdrop's SD3?

[sage burrow]

Depends on your personal preferences

[uncut river]

it's a weird scale between 2d anime and full realistic 3d

somewhere in between, the anime style get's totally lost

but where? around 2.62D or maybe 2.95D ?

[sage burrow]

If the style gets lost, try to add some artist's names which specialize in the style you like

[uncut river]

im infected by pony, I rather not use artist names

except maybe luis royo

[bitter hearth]

Use pony names instead

[sage burrow]

Try Rembrandt within Pony sometime 😄

[uncut river]

wait, ill just add some pony stuff to the prompt of that last image

[bitter hearth]

Prompt: meow

[bitter hearth]

Prompt: Photo of a real cat from the sd3 dataset

[uncut river]

lol

now the real challenge, find this image in the dataset

[bitter hearth]

[uncut river]

sometimes sd3 is just lazily pasting text on top of it 😄

[bitter hearth]

Nice clock

[mortal mesa]

pure luck it got numbers right

[edgy kelp]

NOEDEL

[bitter hearth]

Sd3 does the numbers correct most of the time

[edgy kelp]

Moo clock

[noble coyote]

No, u just can change resolution, SD3, SDXL1.0, SDXL0.9, Style; and Negative Prompt

[bitter hearth]

Clowck

[edgy kelp]

Can't cut the 'L' away from there

[torn wharf]

these balls don't lie

[bitter hearth]

Lmao

[uncut river]

oh no, not banana phone again

[mortal mesa]

he was like that at birth so you know

[uncut river]

look for "The Original Banana Phone Flash" if you don't know this

[mortal mesa]

ring ring ring

[torn wharf]

ball sees a waifu

[edgy kelp]

Clock and Balls SD3 discord

We are peaking as a community

[uncut river]

Whooops! sorry. one down.

"Calm now, don't fear the ball. Try to touch it."

oops

[torn wharf]

clock an balls

[bitter hearth]

generate a image

[torn wharf]

supposed to be living balls, but long balls works to

[mortal mesa]

that's a lot of banana phones

[terse belfry]

Can't Wait! 🤩

[uncut river]

oh no, "coming weeks"

its was "2 weeks"

"still researching"

hm hm, okay

lower all your expectations! ✅

[terse belfry]

I'm ready to wait weeks, even months. as long as the model is better than SDXL.

The longer it takes them to fix the problems, the better.

Take ur time

[bitter hearth]

Nah, 2 weeks seems about right

Re-re-re-release in 2 weeks?

or is it re-re-release

50% chance

[uncut river]

either happens or it doesn't happen

but my question was not on the timing, but the quality. What will it solve? what issues will remain

[bitter hearth]

Everything will be solved

It will be the best model ever!

[uncut river]

that is super great!

like more better than the best! I cannot wait.

damn, sd3 doesnt really know luis royo style 😦

Luis royo, not the style but a slight approximation using sd3. subject and composition are ok, style lacks (probably skill issue, it must be somewhere in sd3!)

[uncut river]

sorry, it's sd3, so I need to censor the bottom. Because of bad hands. 😄 😓

1 2 3 ALLright! guess the characters!

1 red hair
2 lond blonde hair
3 brown hair

angel wings are just an addon, not included in the characters

[craggy crest]

frozen, frozen, and ?

[uncut river]

no and no. thats pretty 1d

[cunning lintel]

ariel, rapunzel lara?

[uncut river]

I'll give a 1/5 point for disney

ok, 2 hits out of 3 !

only 1 disney

oh wait sorry, its still disney

though not a classic disney princess

[craggy crest]

looks like anna and elsa

[cunning lintel]

if two isn't disney i have no idea (and if one isn't Arial, you got a look-a-like :p)

[uncut river]

ur obsessed

[craggy crest]

you asked. to ME that's who they look like

[uncut river]

lara was a hit, rapunzel was a hit

red head is disney, though not a princess

[cunning lintel]

well, you got a look a like 🤡

[uncut river]

lool, sorry crystal wizz

[craggy crest]

shrug - a lot of characters look very much the same, so if you want people to guess them accurately, don't change them so much it's hard for someone not reading your mind to tell what you are thinking

disney reuses characters and even animation scenes

[uncut river]

yeah yeah, its ok

ok, i must admit 1 was a stretch. so, we'll go for another visual hint

she looks a bit older in this image, the show was some time ago

[cunning lintel]

jessica?

[uncut river]

no

way back guess though!

[cunning lintel]

i have no clue

[sage burrow]

reference image

[sullen moss]

New Kolors model...

[cunning lintel]

no hands and legs, cheating 🤡

[uncut river]

Image by Luis Royo

[cunning lintel]

i just hope ip adapters-style or controlnets or something get really really good

[sage burrow]

I meant use one when prompting.

Or better yet, just create a Luis Roya lora 😄

[uncut river]

For SD3? How ?!

[cunning lintel]

was one of the first things i hoped that worked well with SD3 and now the model are out even more, not being able to ref artist sucks

[uncut river]

For SDXL I have one

[sage burrow]

Wonders how long he had to search for a sfw Luis Roya image to be able to post it on Discord 😉

[uncut river]

lol

[cunning lintel]

(and for kolors too, it's more stupid about artists than sd3, if that's possible :p)

[uncut river]

last visual hint for no 1

[sage burrow]

Find a comfy workflow, or a Glif that includes it. Orrrr, show it to Claude and have Claude describe it to SD3

[uncut river]

that not a lora!

thats prompt refinement

[sage burrow]

I thought you meant how with the ref image. For lora use Kohya or onetrainer

or just wait 2 weeks 😉

[uncut river]

hmm, were to talk to claude?

no, I don't think the next SD3 update will include artists

[sage burrow]

there

'll suddenly be hundreds of loras out though 😉

[uncut river]

hey, did you ever try my fractal lora?

[sage burrow]

if I had to dl it, prob not?

is it an sd3 one?

[uncut river]

https://civitai.com/models/404093/yhnrfractalxl i think you can at least use it online on civit (using some buzz)

[sage burrow]

Those images on the civit site are awesome! 🙂

So hurry up and make an SD3 version of it 😄

[uncut river]

hey, you're not waiting for me!

[sullen moss]

This is what I was expecting from SD3, not what we all saw...

[cunning lintel]

strategically hidden in her hair 🤡 nah i'm being difficult, i played with kolors myself and an hour ago i was like "wth, all these hands have 5 fingers!!!"

[sullen moss]

The model should understand what you want from it right from the start, not immediately start talking about skill issues like some do

[sullen moss]

I still hope that 8B will be no worse than Kolors... Unfortunately, the current version doesn't work for me personally.

[bitter hearth]

not really sure, but that might be nudity 🤔

omg 2b so wrong, I have n ot used 8b I dont think

[cunning lintel]

You'd think if a chinese model can do good anatomy, SD3 can as well, eventually

[bitter hearth]

I would love to see Dall-e behind the scenes

unfiltered

[sullen moss]

Oh, the dream of everyone who understands the full power of DALL-E and what it can do.

[bitter hearth]

It is beyond me, for sure.

I use SD3 to make good morning stickers for my boyfriend

If you had to pay a monthly sub for sd3 would you do it?

I think I would

[cunning lintel]

Not at the current api prices :p

[sullen moss]

And blurry pictures...

[bitter hearth]

I mean if it was as good as sdxl at regular prompts I guess

$20 a month

[sage burrow]

😦

[bitter hearth]

aww I miss buzz

[sacred jewel]

What is the back end tech? Unet? MDIT? "German Sausage" named one?

[sage burrow]

If 8b and ultra are the same, I LOVE it!

[bitter hearth]

I wonder what the original fractal checkpoint was

[sullen moss]

https://github.com/Kwai-Kolors/Kolors

[cunning lintel]

sdxl's unet adapter to use chatglm as text encoder

and it works sometimes better when prompted chinese 😅

[sullen moss]

Yes, to achieve perfect prompt understanding, you need to translate it into Chinese

[cunning lintel]

so now i want the chatglm llm, which you get anyway, to translate my prompts to chinese first, but i have no idea how to do that :p

[bitter hearth]

That's easier said than done. My bf is Chinese; it does not always translate.

either way

[craggy crest]

just use deepl

[cunning lintel]

yup, that works

[craggy crest]

what matters isn't if the human understands the translations, it's whether the AI understands

[sullen moss]

Well, we wait and hope. I believe the SAI team will come together and release what everyone expects from them, not this half-baked model.

[cunning lintel]

Just suspect that since chatglm is kinda made for english and chinese, there'd be a way to translate the prompt with it before it sends to embeddings to the unet

but translating works, it's far from ideal for me, i like to iterate on prompts, that's hard to do when relying on translations, subtly differnt wording and all gets lost in translation

[bitter hearth]

I don't think literal translations will ever work properly. I just tried on deepl

[cunning lintel]

nice for the chinese though, it must have been a bad experience for them to translate all to english for stable diffusion

[sage burrow]

Deepl doesn't mind NSFW apparently

[bitter hearth]

that gives me ideas 🤣

[sullen moss]

Even upside down, it understands anatomy perfectly.

[cunning lintel]

and neither does kolors too much; win/win :p

[sage burrow]

Using chinese as a trick to bypass censored sites/etc. doesn't work btw in case that's your idea lololol

[sage burrow]

Is it better than SDXL with loras?

[bitter hearth]

I am so navie. I do not know any censored sites. But I need to!

[sullen moss]

This all has left me feeling disappointed... Everyone was expecting a breakthrough from SD3, but the real breakthrough came from an unexpected place.

The funniest part is that the foundation of Kolors' code is actually SD's code.

[brittle nexus]

Isn't that a model that needs an A100 and it's not even particularly good?

[sage burrow]

Kolors are prudes lol (same with my English version just in case the chinese was the problem)

[sullen moss]

Well, if it's really necessary, you can always rent servers.

[sage burrow]

My lady in a red dress standing by a lake, by Rembrandt worked fine though 🙂

[cunning lintel]

maybe the hugginsspace is filtered/moderated

[sage burrow]

Perhaps that particular huggingface is, but for other models on huggingface, no censorship whatsoever

I just test them for fun, no worries, I have SDXL and SD 1.5

[cunning lintel]

but kolors is far from perfect, it's a bit heavy handed on aesthetics, struggles a lot with styles (maybe prompt issue) and knows no artists. If it weren't for pixart i'd think not using clip kills styles, but pixart does ok-ish

[sullen moss]

Lol

[sage burrow]

Try them on grass!!! (kidding)

[sullen moss]

Well, what can I say, 2B from SAI is much worse...

[teal fossil]

I tried Kolors today and it doesn't feel like a "game changer" Model.

[sullen moss]

Honestly, I still don't understand how it happened that the creators of the technology did worse than those who took their base code as a foundation.

[cunning lintel]

#🆕｜sd3 message let's hope so, with the kinda takeover not a takeover they got resources again

[sage burrow]

Is Kolors from SD3 or SDXL?

It doesn't look as crisp to me 😦

[cunning lintel]

sdxl vae and unet (but unet trained from scratch)

[torn wharf]

all this talk about the new rebrand to kolors got my head like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYbrhAk_IQs

[mortal mesa]

Kolors

[hallow lion]

whats this? how do i get it and does it work in Comfy?

SD3 is still better than adobe firefly? Dayum adobe

[torn wharf]

colors, colors colors, colors

[sage burrow]

I'm sad that SD3 doesn't know the word anthromorphic 😦

[hallow lion]

kolors must be fresh i fidn nothing on in on youtube university

[torn wharf]

its because the actual word is anthropomorphic ?

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-po-kung-fu-panda-furious-five-gif-20411959

[cunning lintel]

Kolors is so good with bodies (but in reality a slight step up from sdxl (prompt is based on old sdxl bot gens of mine, those were ok as well)

[hallow lion]

Whoa

look at those hands Emad!

So is this out for Comfy ??

[sage burrow]

Damn typos 😦 Though usually it corrects any if I make them

[hallow lion]

this looks better than ideogram!

[torn wharf]

those pics seem like bella is missing. common name but i think you know the one

[mortal mesa]

https://github.com/kijai/ComfyUI-KwaiKolorsWrapper

[sage burrow]

I triple checked my spelling this time, but still 😦

[hallow lion]

Gracias.

[torn wharf]

thats a pretty fast looking hedgehog tho

[sage burrow]

Porcupine (in theory lol)

[hallow lion]

I better brush up on my chinese.

[torn wharf]

colors! colors Colors! Colors! colors colors

[sullen moss]

So it turns out that when a model is good, it's really good. But when 2B was released, even the most ardent fan realized that it was a mockery of the community

[torn wharf]

colors

[sage burrow]

I cheated and used my glif which involves cluade and furry specific prompts

[torn wharf]

my lora unlocks the model. it understands anthropomorphic now. just needed balls.

[torn wharf]

see how good it is

[bitter hearth]

gimme ur money!

[torn wharf]

not sure what to train next

[torn wharf]

this one completely perfected the model

[sage burrow]

I see no NSFW 😉

I was going to say nor grass, but I seem to recall some balls laying on grass

[bitter hearth]

in the style of Hidetaka Miyazaki

[sage burrow]

This entire conversation reminded me of these two. Apparently SD3 has heard of them

[bitter hearth]

need tp for my bunghole

[torn wharf]

ball naked in the grass

model unlocked for nsfw

[bitter hearth]

I am the great cornholio

[torn wharf]

heuheuehhehe balls

[sterile pendant]

looks like a blursed version of emil from nier automata

(i'm not an anime fan, my nephew and brother in law hounded me to play that game for like a year, it was worth it btw... didn't expect to feel the urge to platinum an anime game, but i did)

[dusky thistle]

yeah i'm with ya on that

i've greatly enjoyed some anime series or movies but it's only a small part of what i watch

nier was amazing though

[bitter hearth]

🙈

[sage burrow]

SD3 makes the BEST reference images ever!!!!!

[hallow lion]

so now im confused are there sd3 or kolors renders

is this a meme

[bitter hearth]

fair question

[sage burrow]

All mine are sd3, if that helps narrow it down a bit

[mortal mesa]

mine were SD3 also

[hallow lion]

so kolors is good.. how can some chinese dudes make a model that beast sd3 by 78 miles. they dont have millions of dollars laying around i assume..

[bitter hearth]

prompt: reference image

whats so great about that >.>

[bitter hearth]

hmm

[torn wharf]

snowballs

pokeballs

chocolate salty balls

[bitter hearth]

still the best SD3 lora in the world

[torn wharf]

lil known fact, palantir is actually elvish for balls

[bitter hearth]

we need a cubes lora

and maybe triangles

[torn wharf]

sd3 only needs balls. its the perfect shape

[bitter hearth]

ok only balls 👍

[torn wharf]

little known fact. krang is actually interdimensional alien language for balls

[rotund knot]

a girl

[torn wharf]

maybe dodecahedrons cause they're basically low poly balls if you think about it

[sullen moss]

After the release of Kolors, they are in a difficult position. If they release a new model and it's worse, it will be an epic fail. To rectify the current situation, they really need to release 8B, which must be better than Kolors.

[craggy crest]

kolors is sdxl modified. they will release 8b when it is ready, and not when the community tries to force them to do so

[torn wharf]

colors is just a rebrand isn't it? it's been out a while

its stilla unet model

[craggy crest]

it's a modification of sdxl

[sullen moss]

Yes, it doesn't matter. What’s the point of new technology if it delivers worse results?

[craggy crest]

it doesn't. your argument is invalid

[sacred jewel]

With LoRA

[sage burrow]

It must be just me? Colors tp me looks not as vibrant, nor precise.

I prefer Dali or Pixart

[sacred jewel]

Without LoRA

[sacred jewel]

What tech are they using? MDIT or UNET?

[torn wharf]

pointless technology is balls too

[sacred jewel]

You only like REALLY BEAUTIFUL things... you're no fun 😛 😛 😛

[sage burrow]

An sd3 lora? 🙂

[torn wharf]

spytech! i ahven't played much wiht it

[sage burrow]

Er, I should know this, someone mentioned it earlier today.... ??

[sacred jewel]

Just uploaded three new versions of recent training sessions.

Use at 50% seems to do well. But YMMV. When it works it looks cool

https://huggingface.co/gonzalu/YFG-SpyWorld50

[torn wharf]

kolors is a sdxl architecture model trained from scratch. so a unet

secret agent ball 🎵 secret agent ball 🎵 no one knows hes a ball cause he's a super secret agent ball 🎶 🎸

[sacred jewel]

Happy Accidents?

[torn wharf]

little known fact the larval stage of fairies are actually balls in the woods

[sacred jewel]

That is an empty prompt

If you just hit queue with emty prompts you do get some interesting seed results time to time.

[sacred jewel]

Ballz in the woods? I raise you Spies in the woods

[bitter hearth]

balls

[torn wharf]

declassified ballien evidence. how can you explain any of this!?

[bitter hearth]

factual facts

Also kinda hard to get ball ufo

[sacred jewel]

prompt:

[torn wharf]

we are working hard to discover all the secrets of ballz

[sage burrow]

SPCB will not be pleased with this!

[torn wharf]

coming this fall

[odd basalt]

❤️

[torn wharf]

i almost forgot about dragonballs

[bitter hearth]

Lmao

[sacred jewel]

I need help identifying this thing 😛

[hallow lion]

sd3 at work

[bitter hearth]

creature of the depths

[mortal mesa]

its evolving

[craggy crest]

the dog after it drinks your beer

[floral gate]

Yo why this actually so good?

[bitter hearth]

its because

SDXL had issues with dark and black tones

as well as colours

that issue is fixed in CosXL as well as in SD3

[floral gate]

Did my best at recreating it but how come the guy's face on the left is so weird? I feel like everyone's sd3 images look so much better

[edgy kelp]

I'm not using SD3, but has anyone tried SDXL embeddings with SD3? Since the Clip encoders should be the same they are supposed to work

[scenic shadow]

Know someone was making embeddings but don’t remember if anyone tried it. I imagine that even with the t5 not running the architecture difference wouldn’t make something productive.

Try it and tell us.

[humble yarrow]

/Please follow the structure of the house in the uploaded picture to generate the exterior decoration renderings of the house. The decoration style is modern and fashionable, not rural style. A half-walled courtyard is added to the floor, and there are flowers and plants in the corners.

[edgy kelp]

I can't even run SDXL on my computer, and to be frank I don't like at all SD3, I was wondering if anyone tried it and whether they had better outputs

[zealous flicker]

What will the follow-up "full" SD3 model be called?

[bitter hearth]

its gonna be a while

because its not just a case of waiting for training time

its a case of working out how to train DiT

[warm lark]

Is SD3 ever coming back to Civitai?

[bitter hearth]

not sure

ah I found out

civit staff said they are reviewing it this week

[sage burrow]

You may be able to run that setup via glif

[sage burrow]

I'm glad to see my glif working as it should 😄
Prompt: "3 ladies skateboarding"

Results may vary 🤣

[sage burrow]

Can you tell I got boredom face only, as well as just standing there modeling poses?

[cunning zealot]

These sorts of things are just gonna get worse. SAI's most recent post is about introducing even more censorship specifically to protect "AI Children" 🤣. So expect more mangled bodies, less youthful faces, generating families and any other unexpected consequenses of this

[edgy kelp]

Eh, SAI will probably fail before of that

[bitter hearth]

Yea, but, think of the chillren.

[sage burrow]

I need sdxl inpainting now 😉

I changed my comment on it,it wasn't as funny being completely sfw

[cunning zealot]

Lol

[bitter hearth]

[drifting sentinel]

where i can create or discrible whati want to create

confused

[sage burrow]

https://discord.com/channels/1002292111942635562/1237461679286128730

Getting spicy lol

[edgy kelp]

Cat being catcalled and immediately reacting (this was the prompt 100%)

[edgy kelp]

This looks more like a cat that catcalls other cats

[sage burrow]

F you wolf! lolololol

If anyone wants to try my txt2img sd3 glif 😉
https://glif.app/@LadyLalita/glifs/clycy3ugs0006dfk4a72wklco

Try such prompts as "a beautiful woman" 😉

[sage burrow]

My oh my lol

It's heard of all the good artists!

SD3 seems 100% complete to me 😄

[bitter hearth]

more furries than balls

[sage burrow]

Well once civitai and SAI come to an agreement, perhaps we'll have both 😉

[edgy kelp]

Man, where's my balls, darn

[bitter hearth]

im lazy

Can only move my thumb to type

[edgy kelp]

It's alright

[bitter hearth]

It's very cold here, 20°c

[edgy kelp]

Are you stuck in spring?

[craggy crest]

where are you at?

[edgy kelp]

Balls heaven

[edgy kelp]

This is where marbles go when toddlers swallow them

[bitter hearth]

|| 🇧🇷 ||

[bitter hearth]

[sage burrow]

Current sd3 model, I see no problems here 😄

[mortal mesa]

we call him RoseFist

[odd basalt]

Civitai needs to fix their site …

[sage burrow]

My furries are just too sexy for glif 😦

[desert garnet]

is civit broken again?

[odd basalt]

If it hates urs it’s really going to hate mine

[odd basalt]

When is it not broke the site works like one time outta the month 😂

[mortal mesa]

its like a rolling broken at all times, someone somewhere is affected

[odd basalt]

This is why I refuse to pay for buzz it’s a waste of money

[odd basalt]

Broken still

[mortal mesa]

ya i hear ya, i got pissed off over assorted things and deleted my account

[mortal mesa]

hah got em

[bitter hearth]

@odd basalt

[sage burrow]

I use their site to make loras

[odd basalt]

I don’t blame u I just went in lol to claim my daily buzz 😂

[sage burrow]

Their front page images have drastically changed lately!

[odd basalt]

Yes same … I did that with chat gpt making Lora’s and using it for JSON jailbreaking and gaining data that got me in chat time out I go deep into their server as I lost meta on fb for getting information they should have not given me in the first place … and why meta has accesses to locked hacking tools is beyond me.. but shhh 🤫 I did not share anything they don’t want anyone knowing 😂

[odd basalt]

Yes I see that we are not introduced with pron hub

[sage burrow]

BTW do you know of any other online lora makers? 😄

[mortal mesa]

i clicked the show less anime and it went from like 90% Anime to 88% Anime

[odd basalt]

Free ones on hugging face or u can just train model Nightcafe Leonardo chatgpt etc

[sage burrow]

I mean without using my own gpu deprived computer. Are there any huggingface options?

[odd basalt]

What are u using atm???

I’m on pc right now and can find something copadible with ur device

[bitter hearth]

cloud gpu are surprisingly cheap

[odd basalt]

Vpn?

[sage burrow]

8gb nvidia gput, 16gb ram, i7

[bitter hearth]

why would you need a vpn?

[sage burrow]

I'm worried I'll be on it for 10 hrs just trying to figure out how to setup Kohya or Onetrainer 😦

[odd basalt]

So it mask ur ip and devices …

[bitter hearth]

but what does that have to do with cloud gpu?

[sage burrow]

I've never had google drive, nor anywhere else mind all my explicit nsfw futas, so haven't bothered with vpn yet

[odd basalt]

Cloud gpu gives u free but limits u to spend more and I have a gaming pc I don’t use cloud gpu

[bitter hearth]

you can't get a very big cloud gpu for free

there is colab and kaggle

but I think its 16gb

[odd basalt]

That’s why the vpn

Is important key if u don’t wanna spend real money or bit coin

[sage burrow]

I do pay for 2gb google drive each year, however th e free collab that comes with it, all I've read seems to say that lora creating needs more gpu than the free they offer 😦

[sage burrow]

Create 10 more google accounts? 😉

[odd basalt]

Def get VPN Ull thank me later… and I have too many google accounts

Nailed it when ps was free trial ha loophole back then

Like I said don’t waste money on new machines or paying money into ai…u can do it for free with loop holes 😂

[sage burrow]

Has anyone created loras using the google collab free GPU?

[odd basalt]

This is how I see it if u can run after effects smoothly u can run anything talk about graphic cards u have a good machine

[sage burrow]

Or I should say has anyone created SD3 loras. CIvitae creates them so very easily for just buzz

[odd basalt]

No I have not tried too

[sage burrow]

I have a few thousand images ready for when SD3 releases the final info 😉

Or before that if I get bored

[sage burrow]

Is there anything I can use on my own system? 8gb nvidia gpu, 16gb ram, i7

[bitter hearth]

thats alotta images

[odd basalt]

Looking now

[craggy crest]

?? you don't like the replicate trainer?

[sage burrow]

I just lost 5000 images the other day 😦 Fortunately I've nearly make up for it 😄

[odd basalt]

Looks like u can run open AI on urs Becky

[sage burrow]

Oh? Would that run on my system? (8gb gpu)

[sage burrow]

Can that train SD loras?

[craggy crest]

i gave you the link in DM. you just run it on replicate - it's what i used to create hammo

[odd basalt]

It looks like u can

Becky go to Nvidia.com

U can scope it all out there

[bitter hearth]

🧐

[sage burrow]

Their site has worse navigation than civitae!

[finite osprey]

Interesting developments in the past week. I just saw Friday's announcement.

[sage burrow]

Url ?

[lavish osprey]

wow

[mortal mesa]

i borked upscale on it, extra faces in the black in tiles haha

[dull star]

this is the image of all time

[odd basalt]

I thought civitae was worse least on iPad now that I understand it 😂 and civitae is still broken 😂 site

[bitter hearth]

can't get enough of these "4k background" images

[mortal kite]

104 degrees in my city today

sucks for hobbies

[craggy crest]

good if you're a swimmer though

[sterile pendant]

When you grow up in areas with that kind of heat, you know exactly how hot that pool will be be on a day like that. Shits like a hot tub.

[torn wharf]

also, everyone else is going to have the genius idea to go swimming too, then you got too many people in the pool and they're probably dirty

[sterile pendant]

Everyone is dirty though, including you and I. But yeah, some more than others, that's for sure

[dusky thistle]

If a pool smells especially strongly of chlorine it could be cuz ppl are peeing more than usual

Urine reacts with hypochlorite and makes chlorine gas

[mortal mesa]

welcome to my ool, notice there is no p in it, lets keep it that way

[sterile pendant]

Yeah but it makes a smell all on its own anyways, with our without anyone touching the water.

(I'm saying this as I check our hot tub water levels lol)

[dusky thistle]

it does, but it's more fun to associate the clean smell of chlorine with the filth of even more urine lol

[sacred jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/family-feud-survey-says-strike-buzzer-wrong-answer-gif-16312959

Hmmm...

[floral gate]

Forbidden anatomy

[sage burrow]

OK I've got 5 days to use up 500gb of data, SD3 checkpoints and lora links please 😄

[craggy crest]

turn on netflix and watch a couple movies 😉

[bitter hearth]

hello to all ball fans

Boom

Calm

[regal wyvern]

A lion and four bulls living on the savannah, with the lion and the four bulls being enemies, the scene is full of tension. the four bulls is nearly, face the lion, the bulls number is four, the bulls number is four

[bitter hearth]

big

[errant dust]

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/stability-ai-stable-diffusion-license-agreement-update/

[mortal kite]

not sure I want to run SD when it's so hot, make my office too hot then too

[bitter hearth]

guessing that is the 8b?
the structure is really good

[low stone]

ella off sd 1.5. 🙂

stuff keeps getting better.

[bitter hearth]

OMG
this is sd 1.5

so amazing

[low stone]

here's one more.

kolors as a refiner has reinvigorated everything.

[bitter hearth]

ah SD 1.5 with kolors refiner

do you use Hi-diffusion or Koyha Deep Shrink? I find they are nice with SD 1.5

the reason I use them is they can push the resolution up a bit cos SD 1.5 starts small

[low stone]

i'm not, just regular generate, upscale again with the same model by 1.5x, then a 2x upscale with kolors

[bitter hearth]

ah okay
if that works then that method is fine
sometimes I get artifacts

Hidiffusion and deepshrink both have the bad side effect that a smaller latent can make the structure of the image not as good

[low stone]

yeah every time i've played with those, I've always ended up switching back out of it

manga style, closeup of an anime woman with long white hair and black eyes smoking a cigarette, wearing a tightfitting dark top, pale skin, beautiful face, long eyelashes, luxurious fabric, high detail, beige background, soft lighting, halfbody shot by Luis Royo

[bitter hearth]

they are maybe not best for most people who are targeting a 4k final image after all upscales

the reason I use that stuff is I am targeting 8k-32k final image size

so its a bit different

[low stone]

interesting. let me try that.

[bitter hearth]

I kinda mash a bunch of workflows from reddit and github together
generally its this:
deepshrink -> DAT2/ATD/HAT-L upscale -> SUPIR upscale

[low stone]

@bitter hearth ok that's 4k.

[bitter hearth]

that's really nice

[low stone]

have a prompt? I'll try it

[bitter hearth]

"A detailed illustration of R2D2 navigating through a lush, vibrant jungle. The scene is filled with dense foliage, towering trees, and exotic plants. R2D2's metallic surface gleams in the dappled sunlight filtering through the canopy, and he appears to be on a mission, rolling over uneven terrain with vines and roots underfoot. In the background, colorful birds and curious animals can be seen, blending the world of Star Wars with the natural beauty of a tropical jungle."

oh wait its SD 1.5 this might not be good prompt

[low stone]

nah that's a good one

[bitter hearth]

I only do image AI to make sci-fi
so that's the sort of thing I like to test with LOL

[bitter hearth]

haha R2D2 went to the gym!
its really great

[low stone]

have any others?

[bitter hearth]

"A realistic photo of spacecraft engaged in a dramatic battle in the foggy atmosphere around a towering space elevator. The scene is filled with dense fog, with the enormous structure of the space elevator stretching from the ground up into the sky. Bright laser beams and explosions light up the fog, casting eerie glows on the sleek, futuristic spacecraft. The spacecraft are maneuvering around the space elevator, creating a dynamic and intense combat scene. The background hints at the vastness of space, with distant stars barely visible through the mist."

only half the models I try have space elevator in the training data though

[low stone]

yep that one works

[bitter hearth]

wow this is so good

[bitter hearth]

Models should understand the concept of a space elevator even without many clear examples of them

sometimes they do and sometimes they don't

Dalle 3 is by far the best for sci fi

Skill issue runs away

[low stone]

lol

[bitter hearth]

its ok, maybe it is skill issue

[low stone]

yeah no question.

[bitter hearth]

in the last year I spend 99% of my efforts on upscaling
and only 1% on actually making good images

so I am pretty behind on that area

[low stone]

well, the modesl that have been coming out just in the last 3 months have shot us all forward by a lot.

[bitter hearth]

Space stuff

[bitter hearth]

kolors looks really really good
it seems to bake in a midjourney look, which is good for me I think

[low stone]

that prompt on dalle. i kind of like mine more.

yeah

[bitter hearth]

yeah your one was better

the thing about dalle is that
it takes a ton of cherry picking

the top 1% of dalle seeds are amazing

also bare in mind there is dalle HD mode in the API, its a bit better

[low stone]

yeah that's what i have it set to for that image above. 1792x1024, hd

[bitter hearth]

ah okay yeah

HD mode is the best "secret" of dalle

[low stone]

space elevators are a cool topic

[bitter hearth]

ah yeah that one is great

[low stone]

A towering space elevator stretching from Earth to space, nestled in a vibrant forest with glowing trees. Shimmering silver cables glint in the sunlight. A sleek, glass-walled capsule ascends gently, reflecting the azure sky. Clouds swirl around the structure's midpoint. Astronauts wave from inside, smiling. Futuristic control panels with colorful buttons. Birds fly nearby, curious and bright. A holographic sign displaying "Welcome to the Stars". The Earth below, lush and green.

[bitter hearth]

yeah I like forest sci fi a lot

[low stone]

since we're on an sd3 channel, this is 8b.

[bitter hearth]

hmm

Ball space elevator

its kinda a cute style

its still valid though

Where's my nature

can anyone do this one:

"A dynamic and detailed illustration of TIE Fighters flying over Maz Kanata's castle on Takodana. The iconic castle, with its ancient stone architecture and lush surrounding forest, is depicted in vivid detail. Above, TIE Fighters zoom through the sky in tight formation, their sleek, menacing forms casting shadows on the landscape below. The scene is set during the day, with the sun casting a warm glow on the castle and the forest, highlighting the contrast between the serene setting and the imminent threat of the TIE Fighters."

thats really nice with the trees in the foreground

[low stone]

these are sd3 8b

[low stone]

ella/sd 1.5 didn't know tie fighters, but this was hilarious

[bitter hearth]

the flying storm trooper is amazing

these castles are better than the real one TBH

got one more if someone wants

"A realistic photo of a massive space station crashing into the ocean, with a vivid, colorful nebula visible in the background. The scene captures the dramatic moment as the space station breaks apart upon impact with the water, sending huge waves and spray into the air. Debris and fire trail from the station as it descends, and the surrounding ocean is turbulent and churning. In the sky above, the nebula provides a stunning and otherworldly backdrop, its swirling colors contrasting with the chaos below. The overall image is a mix of destruction and cosmic beauty."

[low stone]

From a prompt on the artisan channel

[bitter hearth]

Haha it made it a festival

[bitter hearth]

wow what model was this?
this is better than most dalle attemps

[low stone]

Hah very cool. Have a prompt for that? It's a neat style

[low stone]

This is based off sd 1.5 level4 v5 with Ella for text encoding, with Kolors upscale

[bitter hearth]

"wire art" and neon whatever

It's just a simple prompt

ah I used the SDXL version of level4 a lot
didn't know there is an SD 1.5 version

[low stone]

Yeah they're both fantastic

[bitter hearth]

can someone try this one

"A dark and atmospheric scene of a colossal starship emerging from a swirling, luminescent wormhole above an alien planet's horizon. The starship, adorned with intricate details and eerie, pulsating lights, casts a menacing shadow over the landscape below. The alien planet's terrain features jagged, crystalline structures and dimly glowing bioluminescent flora, contributing to the ominous ambiance. The sky is dominated by turbulent storm clouds, with flashes of lightning illuminating the scene intermittently. A vibrant nebula and multiple moons are faintly visible through the storm, adding to the celestial drama. The entire scene captures a moment of foreboding and discovery, blending the marvels of advanced technology with the haunting mysteries of an alien world."

[low stone]

Ok that's pretty cool

[bitter hearth]

Lmao what's that about 4.6 times slower

lol

[bitter hearth]

@odd basalt no matter the prompt, you can put anonymous in it

X3

[low stone]

Neon wire art for everything

[bitter hearth]

wow nice

[bitter hearth]

Anonymeous

Wire art pixel art is confusing the model cx

[torn wharf]

has anyone had more luck training anything? i see kohya bmaltais ui has an sd3 branch now

[muted dove]

Did some over in #✨｜sdxl message

[edgy kelp]

Balls

[low stone]

A giant, pink, dragon-like creature with enormous eyes and sharp teeth is opening its mouth wide. An elderly woman with long, white hair is wearing a dark coat. She is holding a small plate and feeding the creature using a fork. The background is soft and misty blue, giving a calm and mysterious atmosphere. Both the woman and the creature are illuminated by a soft, diffused light, highlighting their textures and expressions.

[vivid igloo]

an angry gray yeti walks into the mountains leaving footprints against the forest and turns around. gm

[hot dawn]

Are there any SD3 devs here who could confirm if this is the correct loss formula for finetuning this rectified flow model? Diffusers has an example using a different formula, but I think that might be for the EDM approach which the SD3 paper mentions as giving worse results

model_pred = transformer(noisy_latents, timestep, conditioning, ...)
loss = (model_pred.float() - (noise.float() - latents.float())) ** 2
loss = loss.mean()```

[violet cloud]

Bitte erstelle ein Bild für dieses Möbelstück der Zukunft:

Der Stand.In besteht aus zwei senkrecht ineinander verschiebbaren Korpussen, welche aus Tischlerplatte mit sichtbaren Winkeln und Schrauben zusammengesetzt sind. Mit Hilfe einer manuellen Kurbel ist der obere Korpus in der Höhe verstellbar. Die Form des Stand.In sieht vor, dass es eine Arbeitsfläche um den Nutzer:in herum gibt. In der Arbeitsfläche sind ein winkelverstellbarer Bildschirm, eine Tastatur und ein Trackpad eingelassen, welches sowohl digitales, als auch analoges Arbeiten ermöglicht. Durch diverse Anschlussmöglichkeiten kann man seine eigenen Geräte zusätzlich anschließen. Alle sichtbaren Flächen sind mit Naturharzlack beschichtet, um eine widerstandsfähige Oberfläche zu kreieren.

[sterile pendant]

es gibt hier nicht viele deutschsprachige, fragen sie auf englisch

[finite hollow]

are people still using sd3, or is it dead?

[rotund zodiac]

Create prompt keywords

[sterile pendant]

tons are using it. though most of the people that aren't, are the people that want to make lewd waifus all day

[proven pecan]

yeah

[versed rain]

Image

[bitter hearth]

depends which SD3

the API one is more baked

until there are fine tunes I would run a second SD1.5 or SDXL model over it as a refiner

apparently the new one, kolors, makes a good refiner too

I wouldn't stick to just using one model, you get slightly different feels and effects from different ones

[sage burrow]

SD3 has no trouble making lewd waifus! 😄
Oh wait, you probably meant something else lol

[low stone]

So tired. 🙂

[edgy kelp]

I have a collection of mayo in my basement, somebody wants to join my feast?

[teal fossil]

Game Ready topology.

[lavish osprey]

looks like SD3 Large

[sick cedar]

What is that? 6B? Or 8B?

[lavish osprey]

8b

[hallow lion]

Kolors -_-

[edgy kelp]

Damn

[sterile pendant]

kolors has been kicking ass for me

[lavish osprey]

why in the #sd3 channel?

[hallow lion]

because eveyrone was expecting soemthing like kolors when sd3 came out :/

[lavish osprey]

we only released the 2b model (and that was supposed to be a beta)

[edgy kelp]

Was this made with 2B?

[lavish osprey]

no, 8b

you can try 8b on api if you want

(for now)

[hallow lion]

🤷‍♀️

[hallow lion]

fact is kolors is here it runs on whatever less than 10GB and it has a straighforward apachi 0.2 license

[lavish osprey]

current SAI license is not too different from Apache 2

despite what people say

it's worded differently, but conceptually it's apache2 until 1m$

[drowsy compass]

But Kolors only works really well in Chinese.

[lavish osprey]

you can already train something similar to Kolors using SDXL and adding a vlm input.

||it's basically what it is||

I think the dataset is also publicly available

[hallow lion]

yes bascially it measns do whatever until u make 1m a year not sure why but ppl are still scared

[hallow lion]

i promt in english and chinese and results ar eok both ways - different but ok

[lavish osprey]

still thinking about the old license maybe, gonna be hard to counter the first impression

the previous license was just.... bad.

[hallow lion]

u need to convince ponyman

[lavish osprey]

also it's easier for bad news to spread comapred to good news

[hallow lion]

Ponyman chekc out the new license!

also civitai wtf... maybe they make more than 1m a year

its still banned i mena ugh archived

if civit wotn lift the ban thats almost a deathblow coz hardly anyone will search for anything anywhere else its like tha monopoly

[sacred jewel]

Question is [WHEN] ?? 😄 😛

[hallow lion]

2 weeks.

[lavish osprey]

sure, let's do another rushed release

[edgy kelp]

Maybe hype was not a good idea after all

[sacred jewel]

I had a serious question though... when... I don;t care if you take 2 years to do it ... question is still relevant don;t you agree? I did not say "when in less than a day" I said when... So, you could always say "to do it not rushed, we are looking at 4 months" or something like that. 😉

[hallow lion]

We have no idea is the reality

[lavish osprey]

it's a business decision

I'm no biz guy

[sacred jewel]

DISCLAIMER:

I
KNOW
IT'S
HARD
AND
EXPENSIVE
TO
TRAIN
A
MODEL

END DISCLAIMER

[hallow lion]

the ai world moves crazy fats tho so no one knwos anythng

literaily any day a game changer model can drop out of the blue

[lavish osprey]

whatever I might say to you now might be contradicted by biz, and then people will make reddit threads about how I'm a liar

[sacred jewel]

No harm no foul. I believe you are loved in the community, myself included. YOU are not the target... I appreciate [you] Lykon.

[hallow lion]

lykon is king

[sacred jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-dodgeball-movie-ben-stiller-white-goodman-gif-14923367

[edgy kelp]

I hope the 800m model will be done, it will be way easier to unfuck and will require less compute to fine-tune

[hallow lion]

lykon and ponyman will save the earth, it slike x men

[lavish osprey]

800m makes very little sense with the current architecture.
Disclaimer: in my personal opinion

[craggy crest]

and it's sdxl

[hallow lion]

Next mission: unfuck the sd3 models.

[north niche]

Is their another virtual gpu service similar to google cloud that allows stable diffusion use?

[hallow lion]

oh hai wisard - the greatets sd3 fan right here

what if wizard is actually emad =0

[lavish osprey]

current mmdit arch works well at hig param count. Still figuring out low params.

[craggy crest]

go look at the code. i'ts a modification of SDXL

[north niche]

Or do I need to connect my S.D. as an apache or tomcat?

[hallow lion]

ye i know its based off sdxl.

[wind flume]

what are the main things to unfuck in sd3? I haven't used the model very much since the first license was very bad

[craggy crest]

so what you really want is SDXL - no need to wait or ask for anothe release

[hallow lion]

in ym headlore crystalwizard is emad

[edgy kelp]

2B at current state is worse than SDXL, the 8B model will be trained only by people that want to make money out of it even before starting to train

[hallow lion]

kolors is not just sdxl its feel more like a more refined cascade - they did improve on the sdxel architetcure

[craggy crest]

only if you don't know how to use it. lots and lots of sd3 images in this channel that are much better than sdxl

[lavish osprey]

it's much superior to sdxl for some use case, it's inferior in image coherency.
It is much better in prompt understanding and fine details

far better upscaler, far better interactive model

[sage burrow]

Colours has muted colours usually though 😦

[lavish osprey]

but unet, at 2b params, has better coherency, for sure

[hallow lion]

hmmm really - get very vviid colors with it..

[lavish osprey]

(but you can't really scale unet to 8b params)

[edgy kelp]

It's a very undertrained model though, and making a 3.1 model will not start over the pretrain but rather fine-tune on top of it

[hallow lion]

here sa trick question - whats better: sdxl or ella with sd15? 😄

[lavish osprey]

for which use cases?

[hallow lion]

just base generation

[lavish osprey]

depends on the finetune

[hallow lion]

promt following mostly - i refine with whatever anyway

[craggy crest]

better is a comparison word and means nothing. it's subjective and you have to have something to compare

[sage burrow]

Comfy workflow link? 😄

[lavish osprey]

I personally prefer sdxl over anything 1.5 just because Turbo exists

sure you give up the negative prompt

but you generate 10 times faster

[hallow lion]

it aint subjective - sdxl alone is better at promt following than ella sd15 or not - im justa skign becauspixart sigma is good but slooooooooooooooow

[craggy crest]

are you still trying to figure out how to refine SD3 output with sdxl?

[craggy crest]

the word 'better' is a comparison word, and it IS subjective. what is 'better' in one person's opinion is 'worse' in another's opinion.

[sage burrow]

Fortunately I got over it in about 10 seconds flat 😄

[lavish osprey]

bad idea, sdxl vae is too much inferior

might work if you then refine back with sd3m

[hallow lion]

geeez man ar eu a robot or a human lol

[craggy crest]

someone said they did that, and she's been trying to figure out how since

[lavish osprey]

also can we please stop saying "sd3" when referring to 2b?

it's sd3m or sd3m beta 😄

[craggy crest]

i'm sorry, but as an AI I am unable to answer that question

[hallow lion]

i knew it!

[sage burrow]

Looks like they would. Esp if before expenses.

[lavish osprey]

revenue is before expense

[hallow lion]

When making a million is a problem, small money small problem, big money big problem.

[lavish osprey]

fyi, enterprise license it's not a problem

the fact itself that requires private negotiation means it could have any custom condition

(it's a contract)

[hallow lion]

yes thats the part that sucks

that weird individual personal situation stuff like yeah ok so ill ge tin touch but who knows what happens

[craggy crest]

Dodge needs an enterprise license that'll let it go make crypto

[lavish osprey]

how? At the moment SAI is the company spending millions to make free models, companies that make revenue should contribute to that

just makes a better environment for everyone

[craggy crest]

you're arguing with someone that doesn't know how to run a business and doesn't understand what an enterprise license even is.

[hallow lion]

im dodging the coins my man

[sage burrow]

Lots do, with already made workflows. Huggingface lists a few (I'd trust that source more than others)

[hallow lion]

i do runa business and no the problem is what is said - "contact us if you make more than a cool million" is not very encouraging

what if they dont reply for a month or between eahc email a month or two passes what if they just dissappear

not onyl that even the enw licens eis revokable at any time so i mena wtf is that?

[lavish osprey]

the license is not "revocable at any time"

[hallow lion]

they cna pull the rug whenever emad has abad day or whoever the lord boss is atm

[lavish osprey]

Emad? 😄

[hallow lion]

lol

[sage burrow]

It's better at works by Rennaisance and VIctorian artists!

[hallow lion]

he is the SAI CEO of my heart forever i dont care whos there now

I have a feelign well be arguing and bickering about this while the Chinese who dont give a flying this and that about copyright and licenses will take over the AI world 😄

[sage burrow]

Is there a kolors channel you have been posting them to? I want to see :). Though it prob doesn't run on 8gb gpu lol. Also it doesn't do NSFW 😦 😦 I'm still curious though lol

[craggy crest]

if you make over a million, you don't want a cookie cutter contract, you want one that is designed for what you do. that's why you contact them. and if you don't make over a million, then you don't need to worry about it.

[hallow lion]

hmm lets see if kolors does boobes!

[sage burrow]

It knows Peitre Bruegel the Elder, Waterhouse, and Bosch. It's perfect, it'd done! ❤️

Kidding lol

Maybe

[hallow lion]

aw yes i got boobs

soo there kolors does boobs

🤷‍♀️

[sage burrow]

What is ella?

[lavish osprey]

you raised 2 points:

1. the license is revocable
2. what about a grace period after I reach 1m

Point 1 is the same of apache2 in the current license. Worded differently but same meaning.
Point 2 will be addressed in the faq (tl;dr it's in our best interest to have you pay more than 0, so to give you the license, and it's not revoked in the instant you make 1m. Plus we are no police and all of this is self-reported by the company)

[hallow lion]

https://www.reddit.com/r/comfyui/comments/1c051dk/ella_weights_has_been_released_any_way_to_use_in/

[sage burrow]

I keep seeing people saying the turbo puts out lesser quality, is that true?

[lavish osprey]

there is gonna be a huge difference between a company that just hit 1m, has contacted us and is waiting, and a big company that makes millions for a long time and at some point is found out that they're using sd3 without ever contacting us.

[hallow lion]

yes lighting and turbo degrades quality in favor os speed

[north niche]

Have you ever tried hosting stable diffusion using apache or tomcat before?

I'm thinking on how I should do it. And host it myself for a friend

[lavish osprey]

I have yet to find a SDXL model (non turbo) that's better overall than DreamShaper XL Turbo 2

despite the fact that I haven't updated it in months

[sage burrow]

I have that figured out fortunately, but my GPU is thinking of striking 😉

[craggy crest]

funny thing about that - i just realized 2 days ago you wrote that

[sage burrow]

Hmm, ty for the suggestion

[hallow lion]

Kolors everything + SD3 text rendering > Ideogram.

[lavish osprey]

kolors has very limited range compared to other sdxl models

[hallow lion]

hmmmmm

[lavish osprey]

good thing about Kolors is good image understanding for Unet

and Chinese text

but range is because of the dataset being a small synth one

[hallow lion]

anyway whatever as far as generating stuff i think we are there - please. 100% consistency when?

[sage burrow]

I haven't! My skill level is more along the lines of asking Gemini advanced for step by step instructions for how to go about it 😉 lol

[low stone]

Kolors is kinda amazing. Whoever said it only works well in Chinese has no idea what they're talking about.

[craggy crest]

if you want consistancy, you should be using scenario

[sage burrow]

Thank you 🙂

[finite hollow]

Kolors ... where can i download that ?

[sage burrow]

It won't do 🍆 though 😭

[hallow lion]

https://github.com/kijai/ComfyUI-KwaiKolorsWrapper

donwload the comfyu stuff and run the workflows - it will automatically dl the models

[hallow lion]

i got a nude the firts try...

[finite hollow]

thanks

[north niche]

Did you download a model from civitai yet?

[low stone]

More kolors stuff as a refiner for various things.

[sage burrow]

about 60 or so 😄

[north niche]

Awesome

I'm looking into paperspace to host and run stable diffusion

I'm not at home to play with apache or tomcat 🫠

[sage burrow]

The fun thing about having SD hosted elsewhere is that you can use it anytime with your cell phone.

Though I cheat and just use Mage

[north niche]

Mage?

What's that?

[lavish osprey]

it's a very pleasing MJ aesthetic, since that's the dataset they used, but has its limits. No traditional art knowledge (basically 1 style only, which is "AI generated pseudo-realism, or "pseudo 3d render"), samefaces everywhere, and essentially can't do anything that can't already be done with sdxl + vlm (which is a cool concept).
Disclaimer: personal opinion

[sage burrow]

My fave aspect about SD is the fact that there are hundreds of checkpoints and loras for it. And I can easily make my own as well. The SD3 ones should be amazing.

[north niche]

I used to just run it with collab..
Until it git banned

[lavish osprey]

typical mmdit issue, funny to see unet make this mistake 😄

[sage burrow]

It's a site where you can use SD (1.5 or SDXL) models and loras. But they also have some pretty awesome extras integrated that make it come out good even for newbies. It's how I learned to use SD.

But it doesn't have SD3 (yet at least)

[north niche]

Does it allow in and outpainting?

[hallow lion]

not good enough and i wan tlocal tools

[craggy crest]

that's his friend who is laying under the table

[craggy crest]

then you need daz studio

[hallow lion]

omg i used daz befcore no.... thats not what i need

[craggy crest]

sure it is. you create ref images with it to use with comfy

[hot dawn]

People would get excited about SD3 if they could see some decent community finetunes. The previous base models weren't all that exciting either. At the moment though the community can't be confident of how to correctly finetune it, and any published info from SAI would probably help with that. e.g. I'm not confident if the diffusers SD3 finetuning script example is correct (they forgot the VAE shift factor and near 50% TE dropout), and think they're calculating loss using a method which the SD3 paper rated as the worst. Creating the conditioning in various dropout combinations is also fuzzy, since comfy seems to drop the zeroes as well in some cases, or shift the position of clip_g embeddings if clip_l is missing

[craggy crest]

perhaps the problem is that it's 2b and unfinished?

[hallow lion]

yeah the basemodels where never perfect... i cant believe its been about a month and nothing sd3 related is out- it is very sad, i really think sd3 is a great base model to work from.

[hot dawn]

the model can be finetuned, it just runs into issues and it's hard to know if it's from finetuning it incorrectly or the model not being easily trainable

[craggy crest]

Daz AI studio - consistency

[hot dawn]

For me, SD3's VAE is the first which can encode my art style without losing the details on the characters' eyes, since the 4 channel VAE didn't work well with flat shaded artwork, so I'm really keen to try finetune it, but can't seem to quite make it work like previous models

[craggy crest]

the model is unfinished and missing things. hard to fine tune that. not what i would even try to do.

[sage burrow]

Inpainting comeing soon, they had it on their old site... not outpainting though unfortunatley.

[hot dawn]

I already know it can be finetuned on tiny datasets and have done it reasonably well, it's just a struggle with larger datasets and it's unclear if there's an error in training that just needs to be fixed, or if it's due to the model

[lavish osprey]

could also be settings

[hot dawn]

any published details about SD3's training would help, particularly about how to build the conditioning with various dropout combinations and the loss calculation

[lavish osprey]

I agree

[sterile pendant]

that's why you have sites like https://imgsys.org/rankings with 10s of thousands of real world A/B ratings, using prompts ranging from good to garbage, rather than the biased results that commonly end up in the papers

[craggy crest]

which is still opinion and subjective.

[sterile pendant]

right, but when you have very large sample sizes, you end up with what's known as a trend