🍥｜anime

[rough oxide]

u gotta do some manual mods for nai though, well, if u want it to work with new features

[lyric zealot]

No idea, I seldom use nai, and even if I did, I use thru api not on their site

[rough oxide]

u have to like manaully add these lines (this is from that deku pic)

so like

the cfg_sched thing, set sampler to karras

the cfg manual set in it, etc

i'll probly try to binge nai all day today and see if i hit rate limit just manually using it

[ivory pebble]

That seems very annoying 😭

[rough oxide]

nah u just do it once

like u change one .txt file

[lyric zealot]

You can get all those on the api docs for nai

[rough oxide]

but it's pretty hidden

yeah

so for me i'd use like

sec posting the mermaid rin with data so i can get the specific thing XD

[lyric zealot]

That’s how I setup my nai api for usage as well

[rough oxide]

i also set this

when i did it last time

[nova remnant]

sushi

[rough oxide]

because it made way more variety within generations

[nova remnant]

put it on a plate

[rough oxide]

nyoooooo xD

[ivory pebble]

Honestly the most I've used it for is like... 10 hours or so in 1 day, but I wasn't constantly spamming the generate button

[rough oxide]

i go like 12-14 hours and SOMETIMES i spam the gen button on rerolls

but lately i've been trying to analyze the result more, see if i can inpaint something

b4 hitting

right now gens r coming CRAZY fast tho

like 2 seconds xD

[ivory pebble]

I have no clue honestly, like I said usually I just refresh if it doesn't let me click on generate

[rough oxide]

so that's when i might get a little spammy and not realize it

[ivory pebble]

Yeah they fixed that not too long ago, the generation time is SUPER FAST now

[rough oxide]

idk yesterday they were still maybe 5 secs

but right now

2 secs, BLAZING fast

[ivory pebble]

Love this style!

[rough oxide]

that's what made me tink i hit limit on day 1

cuz it was this fast when i hit rate limit too

[green temple]

thx

[ivory pebble]

Honestly I was surprised when I saw it generating that fast, I think they fixed something with their cluster or whatever

Either way it's nice cause I can generate even more stuff now

[rough oxide]

ye

[rough oxide]

i thot u didn't like this styleeee.

this is gud

[supple raptor]

from what i heard they updated from cu118 to cu124

[nova remnant]

its from nano machine

[rough oxide]

i thought that was only like, idk, a 30% speed boost?

[ivory pebble]

Anyone got any good artist mixes/artist tags for illustrious? Kinda not sure which ones work well with it

[nova remnant]

its not as accurate

NAI gives it a bit of the default "high quality" style

the style should be worse lmao

how chinese manga stuff is

[ivory pebble]

I have no idea what that means but I'm gonna assume it's a good thing!

[supple raptor]

newer version of cuda. moar faster

[ivory pebble]

That's still a huge boost tbh

[rough oxide]

iunno if it adds up tho. gotta be somethin else too i think

[nova remnant]

@rough oxide example

[rough oxide]

going from 8-11+(sometimes stuck) to 2-5 sec never stuck?

[supple raptor]

that sounds about inline with what i got on my machine when i updated. i haven't used nai enough over the last few months to know how much of an improvement it got.

[rough oxide]

this is huke, cura, ssambatea, but on illustrious it'll sometimes be like black & white gens

[ivory pebble]

It was a big improvement honestly

[ivory pebble]

I love this one!

I'll give it a try later

[nova remnant]

what is that

some cuda version stuff ?

[ivory pebble]

Ye

[rough oxide]

o wait i also added monogatari (series) xD

so it's a 4-stack

cuz monogatari (series) stabilized it more (but this is nai)

i tried the 3 on their own combined on illustrious b4 tho and results r good

[ivory pebble]

Apparently cfg++ samplers are good with illustrious but I have no clue if those are even a thing

[rough oxide]

i do not like those.

but they are a thing

[ivory pebble]

Doesn't sound like a real thing

[rough oxide]

i can't get them to work, u'd have better luck asking in proj ai about those probably(?)

xD

[ivory pebble]

Nor do I even see them on Forge, hmm

[rough oxide]

ur supposed to use like half cfg amount but they come out completely diff

[nova remnant]

aren't those the ones you need half cfg

ye

[rough oxide]

oh not forge u need comfy

well idk maybe forge has comfy backend?

[ivory pebble]

Oh lmao

Wait does the reforge thingy have them

[rough oxide]

my personal recommendation if u still want ui

is swarmui

it has comfy backend so u can do everything u can in comfy with it

[ivory pebble]

I'm too lazy to install that who am I kidding

[rough oxide]

and full-feature ui

[ivory pebble]

I've heard about that one, will check it out

[rough oxide]

creator's here #🐝｜swarm-ui

also they post on proj ai sometimes

[nova remnant]

@ivory pebble do you have any idea if theres a tag for more drawn-like stuff

[ivory pebble]

Isn't that like... really bad cause you'd realistically want a higher cfg to follow your prompt?

[rough oxide]

i think i can be sorta satisfied with this eye inpaint xD

nah cuz it's.... voodoo black magic

u kno how it is with these things

it only works with half-cfg

xD

u definitely get a diff style of image though. so it's better for some compositions, worse for others

[ivory pebble]

Not sure honestly, try traditional media, faux traditional media, sketch, jaggy lines..

One of those should give something

Not sure about artist tags tho

[ivory pebble]

I see, makes sense

[nova remnant]

I only know traditional media, I want these shadows like in this image

lmao

A bit rougher style

idk how to describe

literally "worse" quality

[ivory pebble]

I was mainly asking if it was worth using those samplers cause apparently they give sharper/better quality images

[nova remnant]

will try those

[rough oxide]

objection!

to the better

i did not like the outputs i was getting in illustrious with the cfg++ ones

[supple raptor]

hatching (texture) is the tag

[nova remnant]

what are we hatching

[ivory pebble]

I'm not exactly sure what those are called lmao, I think you can only get that sort of stuff if you use certain artist tags, I'm not sure if there are actual tags for it tho

[ivory pebble]

Why not? Any particular reason?

[nova remnant]

first is what alex said, second is nubby

[ivory pebble]

I was gonna say motion lines should do the trick but that doesn't really work if you just want a character that's not moving 😭

[supple raptor]

it's a shading technique

[nova remnant]

closes the door on her face

[ivory pebble]

Obviously cranking the weight up does wonders

[rough oxide]

for me they were more desaturated/less colorful and looked worse. i probly didn't give it enuff testing but for illustrious i settled on euler ancestral with beta sampler

[ivory pebble]

Ah yes the old reliable, Euler A

You love to see it

So how long till someone does a good illustrious mix

[supple raptor]

you could also try adding artists that use hatching in their art such as inuno rakugaki but that one might not be very effective on NAI since their image count is pretty low.

[rough oxide]

sanae's working on one. could be promising.

advokat has one that kinda improves details a bit

[nova remnant]

artist tags makes things ugly

[rough oxide]

well not mixes, but finetunes

https://civitai.green/models/811067/illustrious-xl-smoothft

[ivory pebble]

Hmm interesting

[rough oxide]

just essentially reinforces what it already knows and makes outputs more stable

i'm interested in what sanae'll do cuz their original finetune was like 7m+ images

so if advokat got this qual with 390k

then reinforcing the entire danbooru set could yield interesting results in short term

....before the inevitable v1.0 release (hopefully)

[ivory pebble]

Yeah that's mainly what I'm looking for, but most mixes stray away from the base style of the model so lets hope for the best

[supple raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/reactions-gif-23256952

[nova remnant]

ugly too

[green temple]

indeed

[lyric zealot]

Would let her hold my ball as well

https://tenor.com/view/pokeball-shimmer-gif-22767299

[green temple]

oh... this ball , sure

[lyric zealot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1291041773266796575/1291337505160953981/nuero_.gif

[nova remnant]

shocks her

[green temple]

@supple raptor

[supple raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-touhou-project-memories-of-phantasm-remilia-remilia-scarlet-gif-10869140428775540673

[green temple]

she supposed to be "sleepy" but that works too lol

[green temple]

ohhh

nice

[green temple]

still evil

[lyric zealot]

perfectly evil, just the way she is supposed to be

[lyric zealot]

[green temple]

half evil now

[lyric zealot]

w-what about now?

[green temple]

(((evil : 4 )))

[desert island]

Ahhhhh she's like a weeping statue from doctor who 😱 !

[lyric zealot]

looks cozy af

HORROR

Slight horror

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277572649932820622/1284190826632712255/numbers.gif

Depressing

[nova remnant]

too depressing

Smuggered

[desert island]

this looks similar to the image I got when I asked flux to create a disgusting image!.... wait.... I made myself sad... 😢

[nova remnant]

Flux bad

Big

Smol

@desert island

What does that react even mean

[desert island]

1. Pear shaped
2. Skinny like a bean pole

[desert island]

The beanpole one was a stretch but I wanted to keep it in the vegetation category.

[nova remnant]

I was thinking of other things on her shaped like beans

Kinda

@desert island i sent you a better look at them in your dm

[desert island]

cute 😄

[near elbow]

that time again

[nova remnant]

Grabby

[brittle rampart]

My niece asked me to help her draw a fantasy animal for school. She shouldn't have asked. We started with her sketch. 🤣

[nova remnant]

Cheating!

[brittle rampart]

Why?

[nova remnant]

AI is too powerful

[bitter latch]

it went random

[gloomy scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/loli-eat-you-loli-kawaii-anime-you-die-gif-16032459

[magic wave]

Ragyomaxxing

[green temple]

🌚

[vital raptor]

when you want something done, sometimes you gotta do it yourself.. finally got around to digging through the SwarmUI code and added a feature I requested over 2 months ago. Now hopefully it gets approved 😄

[near elbow]

while we're at it

[magic wave]

Cyberpunk Kanna

[nova remnant]

luna

[magic wave]

Catto :o

[nova remnant]

Your image bugged

Fix the eyes

[lyric zealot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277572649932820622/1284190826632712255/numbers.gif

[nova remnant]

[brittle rampart]

motion effect came out well

[brittle rampart]

Guys, tell me who uses Forge. For ControlNet, do you now need to download models manually?! I remember in previous versions missing models for preprocessors were downloaded automatically when the Preprocessor was selected.

[lyric zealot]

i do, and i've always have to download my own models for controlnet. The preprcessors are there by default tho

[brittle rampart]

Remind me (with links) where to get them and which ones are “in fashion” now? 😁

and more! what does this error mean RuntimeError: Sizes of tensors must match except in dimension 2. Expected size 462 but got size 539 for tensor number 1 in the list. at the time the generation starts

[lyric zealot]

depends on what you wanna do with controlnet. There's like the stuff with pose, then there's the ip-adapter which is my most commonly used controlnet (i don't really used controlnet tho)

[vital raptor]

errors like that are common when using a vae that doesn't match the model

[lyric zealot]

what did you change before that?

[vital raptor]

like, sdxl model with a sd1.5 vae or something

could happen with lora, controlnet, etc also

[brittle rampart]

this model with built-in VAE

[brittle rampart]

Well, all that I mainly used in ControlNet before was Canny, LineArt and OpenPose.

[brittle rampart]

then I guess I'll just restart the SD

[lyric zealot]

then get those if you used those

[brittle rampart]

um....this will sound funny, but remind me where?

I remember that on Huggingface. and here's where exactly

[lyric zealot]

https://civitai.com/models/136070?modelVersionId=152216 here maybe? I'm never really used these before, i've really only used controlnet for ip-adapter for sdxl, and openpose during sd1.5 time so yeah

[near elbow]

morning

[zinc flax]

the infamous miku

[wooden coral]

mhm could have made it a gif maybe

[wooden coral]

Nope lol

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-gif-5677380953331354485

Its made with Flux, Depthflow for the effect and Topaz Video for interpolation

Im self taught, no course or anything and I also dont teach people, sorry
If you have questions im always there to answer them tho

[wooden coral]

Or they just delete everything and disappear

[bold ether]

trying to get under the radar ?

[unique mortar]

Wallpaper 1920x1080

[nova remnant]

Angy

[nova remnant]

Grabby

[gloomy scroll]

She lost her teddy but now she has neko in her eyes

[green temple]

my tiger looks a bit bigger

[near elbow]

tiger, 896x2048 native 🙂

[lyric zealot]

not barefoot

[supple raptor]

some marisas have to wear shoes to make you appreciate the ones that don't more

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-marisa-kirisame-smug-marisa-witch-gif-20893057

[desert island]

@nubby Well I couldn't quite get there with just prompting but I tried... I might go look for a lora or setup this workflow with an IP adapter or both but I wanted to try this out for fun 😄

[desert island]

Well I found an SDXL lora but it still leaves much to be desired even after messing with the prompt for like 20 minutes... 😢 . I give up for now...

[zinc flax]

cheer

[slate herald]

what

[near elbow]

still practicing

gun lover

[supple raptor]

yay! it marisa

[nova remnant]

lick

[green temple]

[desert island]

Ooooh spooky and sweet I love it!

[green temple]

thx , this is complete luck lol

[nova remnant]

👍

[green temple]

smol marisa @supple raptor

[green temple]

big 🥲

[nova remnant]

pillows

[unique mortar]

Soaking feet wallpapers

[supple raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/marisa-touhou-marisa-kirisame-cat-cat-girl-gif-6915462697434632593

[lyric zealot]

new model

[supple raptor]

yesh, it's a large scale illustrious finetune https://civitai.com/models/833294?modelVersionId=932238

[lyric zealot]

new model to play with

[zinc flax]

oh dang i missed that one

time to play around with yet another illust iteration

[lyric zealot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1072697081443131476/1205585234175987822/programmingtime.gif

[zinc flax]

ai is moving way too fast lol

[supple raptor]

it seems to be a little more stable than illustrious, especially with some of the smooth art styles that i've used. anatomy is improved. i haven't noticed any significant character knowledge loss, but artstyle knowledge might be slightly worse (though still probably far better than most other models)

[lyric zealot]

imma do some plot xy comparing the two when i have time

thanks nubby

[zinc flax]

Here's hoping it also improves on the white background

[supple raptor]

also, this super cursed artist koto inari is fun to mix with other artists

[lyric zealot]

that's actually cool as hell

[supple raptor]

yeah, it's a really unique style. and somehow it makes anatomy better when you mix it with other artists on illust/noob

this one was really cool other than the extra half a broom

[lyric zealot]

[nova remnant]

i have the perfect prompt for comparison

[lyric zealot]

[zinc flax]

massive

[lyric zealot]

[bitter latch]

.

[near elbow]

love silhouettes

[green temple]

oh i remembered something i did before

[green temple]

feet

[brittle rampart]

m?

[green temple]

m?

[brittle rampart]

rabbit

[brittle rampart]

@green temple now better!?

I like the ears of the first version better.

[green temple]

yup bigger ears

[near elbow]

someone said "bigger ears"? 🙂

[brittle rampart]

these are sails! 😂

[near elbow]

yeah, the goal is for her to be able to cover herself with her ears. clothing expenses zeroed, total win 🙂

but i guess i better stop there

[green temple]

❤️ 🥹

[near elbow]

cu tomorrow!

[steady grail]

cool free money!

don't take me seriously lol

[green temple]

i wanted "detached sleeves" 🥲

nsfw ?

[bitter latch]

Ophrah bunny on her new gameshow!

and her co-host

O.o

she looks confused

ok .. it's an egg.. now what?

[desert island]

Throw it up to the egg loving magic genie who lives in your ceiling and maybe he'll grant you a wish!

[bitter latch]

ok....

[desert island]

It seems like maybe you have questions... so here 😄

Oooh this one is better... it's no flux, but this model merge really tries 😁

[bitter latch]

Bearable eggs

[bitter latch]

eggs

[desert island]

Saitama?

[bitter latch]

I guess

[bitter latch]

now thats 3D

[desert island]

What model is your lora based on?

[stable crane]

this is base noobai

[desert island]

I'll play around with it some more after my wife goes to bed. I don't want her walking by and getting mad at me... She HATES spiders.

[stable crane]

hehe

it's worth it

I really like this model

it's got some fun poses/expressions too

[desert island]

just want to verify that this is the right model https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xl

[stable crane]

yes

[steady grail]

finally i have a new toy to play with

just completed a promising merging workflow and testing the first merge i'll use as a base to merge with anime models

the gens looks all pretty stable, without crazy mutations

it's so funny🤓

i wonder what will happen when i'll merge it with a cute anime model

[desert island]

you get better hand and anatomy but have to throw more weight at the style you want 😄

[steady grail]

yep, the intention is that

use this model as a base and just merge the style on it

i'm using weighted blocks merge just to transfer some aspects of a model in another

if i have done well my work, mutations shouls be minimal during the transfer

i'll try with this for the next test

https://civitai.com/models/828844/khmix-lite?modelVersionId=926981

it looks pruned, i hope it's not a problem

[desert island]

good luck it seems like we had similar thoughts 😁

[steady grail]

such experiments are only possible with comfy

it's so funny

mutated hands 😦

everything else is perfect, but the hands are always mutated, i suppose every merge need different weights

i'll try with a different not pruned model to exclude that possibility, than i restart playing with weights and find a combination with less mutations

[steady grail]

or maybe the new model used in the mix could have been bad in genning hands from the start

again, mangled hands

but the results are very cute

tomorrow, now i'm very tired

see ya guys

[lyric zealot]

angy miku (a little cursed)

[desert island]

She really had to take a leek!

[lyric zealot]

she don't want you to take away her leek

depressed arc, knowing she can't protect her leek

[nova remnant]

lick

[bitter latch]

haha

[bitter latch]

ok. was not expecting that

oh boy.. haha

HALLOWEEOW?

[brittle rampart]

halloMeeeow! 😂

[bitter latch]

ok I go bed now. thud

[desert island]

^-(starts moving nodes and noodles around)
"Ooooh I just had a fun idea for a new workflow.... gimme a bit" 😁

[desert island]

^-(Throws stuff around the room)
"BAH! 💢 STUPID HANDS!"

[gloomy scroll]

Here's hand for you

[wooden coral]

That lora is really cute

[brittle rampart]

looks like a children's book illustration

[bitter latch]

wheeee

ok back to bed... thud

[steady grail]

just had a terrible realization, most of the time, terrible hands depend from terrible clips...

[supple raptor]

Merging clip is very often cursed. If you're doing that then yeah, that could be part of your problem. Also, merging XL models is just a lot more difficult in general than 1.5 models because most of them are divergent enough that they're barely compatible at best.

[steady grail]

yep, it's hard, but i'm forced to do it, because without a merge, the merged models, gens weird mutations

[steady grail]

this test models shown promising results with the right weight

[supple raptor]

If the merge gens weird mutations that weren't present in the donor models, then the merge is likely a lost cause already. I'd start by trying to replace the clips with the ones from each of the donor models first to determine if that's the problem, and if not then it's time to go back a step and keep trying different things in that merge to find something that works better. More merging on top of a broken merge is unlikely to fix it in a way that makes it worthwhile to try.

[steady grail]

i suppose that's it

i can't expect correct hands by using a model with cursed hands

anyway iìll know when it finish to test all the weights

[supple raptor]

Yep, I battled this for days back when I was making kakigori. Sometimes the best solution is to find an intermediate merge that can be used to bridge the gap between two other models before merging them. IE: instead of merging A with B, merge A with C to get D and merge D with B.

[steady grail]

i hope it's not the case for cute lunar

that model is so cute

[supple raptor]

the only model i'm finding with that name is an sd1.5 model

Anime_Think

[steady grail]

yep, i only use sd1.5 models

[supple raptor]

oh ok, merging should be a bit easier then. at least you have a ton of models to use to try to find some compatible combinations.

[steady grail]

yep, working on xl and pony would be too exhausting

[supple raptor]

merging pony with anything other than pony finetunes/loras isn't worth it. its far too cooked to salvage.

for 1.5 merging, i've had good luck using any of Mods13 or AnonymousM's models as a bridge when trying to merge 2 models that aren't compatible with each other

[steady grail]

oh, ty for the suggestion

from the tests, looks like i get less crocked details with a very low merge of the clips

[supple raptor]

1.5 models have some completely fucked clips from all the incestuous merges most of them have gone through. i'd try just transplanting the clip from NAIDv1 onto the merge output. that often improves 1.5 merges.

[steady grail]

i know what do you mean

i remember anymerges lol

[supple raptor]

average sd1.5 merge tree explanations:

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[steady grail]

https://tenor.com/view/double-double-toil-and-trouble-fire-burn-caudron-bubble-witch-gif-16497901

much more close to this

they where dark times

[supple raptor]

nah, the witch has some idea what she's doing

[steady grail]

mutations were the norm

[supple raptor]

1.5 merges were often "i merged these 15 models (all of which are just merges of the same 5 other models) in random proportions i think, i don't really remember for sure even though i did this all 2 minutes before uploading and never tested the model but it's definitely the best merge i've ever used!"

[steady grail]

it must be less cursed than what we had before

that's must be how "i have no mouth but i must scream" was written

naidv1 isn't a 1.4 model? the clip is compatible with 1.5 models?

[supple raptor]

1.4 and 1.5 are the exact same architecture, so yes they're compatible. naidv1 just happens to have one of the least cursed clips of any of the 1.x based models.

both just use CLIP ViT-L, which is also the one used for the smaller CLIP in XL models so you can even transplant the CLIP from NAIDv1 onto an XL model if you want, though idk how well it will work in that case since the CLIP ViT-G would still be the one from whichever SDXL model you're adding it too.

[steady grail]

oh interesting, ty

i was thinking about deepen my knowledge in clips, to work better on themù

i needed this tip

[desert island]

xl and animagine works btw. it's what I use

[steady grail]

someone know where i can find the publicly released model of nai?

[supple raptor]

links to all 3 here. (Full) is the one you most likely want. https://blog.novelai.net/novelai-diffusion-v1-weights-release-en-e40d11e16bd5

[steady grail]

the file in unet directory?

[supple raptor]

yep

[steady grail]

i'm suspetting comfy doesn't suppor nai model very ell

the only node i see is load diffusion model and it's not provvided with a clip pin

everything else is associated with the api and not the model 😦

loading it as any other model doesn't work on comfy :/

i spy with my little eye a node that maybe i can use lol

[supple raptor]

that model should load just like any other model with the normal model loader. bedovyy's ComfyUI_NAIDGenerator custom node that you probably found is just for api usage

[steady grail]

when i try with normal loader, the gui give me error model not found

[supple raptor]

hold on, i'll just convert my old copy to safetensors and upload it.

[steady grail]

i just had dark trough

nah, at least it was not windows messing with me lol

[supple raptor]

i had a few more .ckpts than i thought so it's taking a little bit to convert them all (swarm doesn't give an option to pick which ones to convert sadly) it's almost done now though

[steady grail]

lol

ty you are a big bro

[supple raptor]

i'll throw up sd1.4, 1.5, 1.5-inpainting, and wd1.2 as well so they're all in one place.

[steady grail]

ty ❤️

i'll have fun with them

some of the gens are very cute, too bad for the crippled clip

[bitter latch]

so hows that work with forge?

[brittle rampart]

It seems to me either not at all or with “dances” that I don’t understand. but it's damn tempting.🤣

As far as I know, nubby and Shaikorth use ComfyUI

[supple raptor]

i love how fast uploads to hf are

[brittle rampart]

hf?

[supple raptor]

huggingface

[brittle rampart]

ah...

[bitter latch]

shrugs. like I need more models. got to many now

[supple raptor]

let me know if any of the ones you try seem to not work correctly, i didn't test after converting to .safetensors https://huggingface.co/nubby/SD1.x_base_model_archive/tree/main

[bitter latch]

hmm what that?

[supple raptor]

i just converted all of the main sd1.x base models to .safetensors since most of them were in .ckpt originally and re-uploaded them so they're in one place.

[bitter latch]

ok but what models? the nai stuff?

[supple raptor]

NAI v1, sd1.4, sd1.5, sd1.5-inpainting, waifu-diffusion1.2, and the original offset_noise model.

it's all old stuff that not many people are probably using today, but could be useful to some people and i'd rather them have access to .safetensors versions than potentially sketchy .ckpt versions

[steady grail]

totally agree on this part

[bitter latch]

k

[brittle rampart]

This means that the NAI model is not the model that is currently in use, but rather an old one. and the results won't be as good?

[lyric zealot]

Nai is currently on v3

[steady grail]

they only released the first version

for development use

[bitter latch]

so good for merging?

[supple raptor]

yeah, the one i uploaded is the same one that leaked a couple years ago and was recently officially released

[supple raptor]

yep, could be good for merging or for training purposes

[bitter latch]

kewl

[lyric zealot]

I would say almost all sd1.5 anime model would already contains a merged of naiv1

[supple raptor]

even most of the realistic sd1.5 models at this point contain some naiv1

[lyric zealot]

True true, would be huge if naiv3 leaks

[supple raptor]

the biggest use for it in merging with more modern models is transplanting it's clip since that's a lot better than the ones in a lot of models that have been trained and merged a million times

[brittle rampart]

as soon as the profit from its commercial use falls, I think

[supple raptor]

i'm hopeful that they may release naid3 publicly once they add naid4 to their site. it'll be very sad if it takes them as long to release that as it did naid1

[steady grail]

upscaling the image i'm using as comparison

for now i'm using the clip of the base model i merged yesterday

far from ideal

[steady grail]

the model can do better, but the hands >.<

gotta go, se ya later

[steady grail]

another test

with a little higher res

more higher res

even if the clip is a little messed up, the result is good

i got an error >.<

[steady grail]

even higher

[nova remnant]

[steady grail]

the results are even more promising than the one i got during the tests

[nova remnant]

buy a 4090

it should resolve some errors

[steady grail]

eheheh, to poor to spend on my pc for now lol

[green temple]

i like this more 👍

[steady grail]

same prompt.
i really love the backgrounds of this model

i'll test it an maybe if it's worth, i'll upload it

looking at the deviances the people gen, i'm a little discouraged from posting models lol

i'm a little scared to be blamed for the bad conduct of an user 😦

not exactly what i expected, but god, it's gorgeous

[green temple]

reminds me of lunar radiance

[green temple]

indeed !!

[steady grail]

the base is a merge of various very stable models

merged with cutelunar

[green temple]

nice

[steady grail]

it was an experiment and i must say i like the result

[green temple]

me too

[steady grail]

let's see where is biased toward

looks like is more miased toward backgrounds

[green temple]

i see

[steady grail]

1girl, at the station

[green temple]

oh

[steady grail]

1girl:1.3

very 3d anime style

[green temple]

yeah

[supple raptor]

you can disable nsfw posts from your model page on civitai

[steady grail]

oh, that's positive

on a positive note, even without nsfw in negative, nsfw gens looks terrible, by default

[supple raptor]

you can even hide specific tags or users if someone is being problematic

[steady grail]

very positive

i wonder if it can gen cute cats lol

[green temple]

yup

[steady grail]

ops, i wrote bathing instead of basking lol

a cute (cat:1.3) basking under the sunlight

i can read in his eyes "why are you doing this to me?"

[green temple]

really beautiful backgrounds

[steady grail]

cats are cute

[green temple]

indeed but not @nova remnant

[steady grail]

uahahah

[supple raptor]

CirnoPopcorn

[steady grail]

i'll post it tomorrow, going to sleep

after the last gen

another one

good bye

[nova remnant]

wat did I do

im sad now

[green temple]

jk 🥲

[lyric zealot]

sad you are

[supple raptor]

she can hear miku's guitar from outside

[supple raptor]

@finite herald miku posting alert

[desert island]

And now we wait for like 30 minutes for 12 seconds of video that is actually just a basic test without frame interpolation... 😭

It looks pretty cool though from what I'm seeing in the Sampler as it chugs along... Kind of has my hopes up 😄 🤞

[brittle rampart]

my favorite model couldn't draw the crystal wings of flandre scarlet.... 😭

this is the best option

[desert island]

still needs work but it's getting there... and my math was wrong only 7 seconds of video... anywho back to the drawing board. 😏

[supple raptor]

try flandre scarlet, wings, crystal and if that doesn't work try flandre scarlet, crystal wings. if it's an animagine based model then you've already gotten very lucky with those ones though. animagine hates flandre

[brittle rampart]

I’m not sure what model the author had as the basis for his merger. because the history of the merger is not fully traceable from the models. 🥴

[supple raptor]

civitai schizo merger moment

theSaddest

[brittle rampart]

What is this?

[brittle rampart]

the last version of tokens in promt was (flandre scarlet:1.6),(flandre scarle wings:1.58) partly this is a rather strong weight and even with it the result is not very good.

[supple raptor]

it's common on civitai to either randomly merge a whole bunch of models and not be able to tell the recipe, or to just pretend you don't remember the recipe to keep it a secret. just a strange behavior from that community.

[supple raptor]

based on this information and the style i'd guess the model likely contains one of the early versions of animagine which had almost all of the touhou data removed from it's dataset. it's hard to say what else it might contain though.

[brittle rampart]

The author in the versions indicates a list of models. but alas, until a certain point. however, there is always the opportunity to directly ask the author of the merger model. that's a good idea and I'll try to ask him.

the touhou data removed - they should be punished for this!🤬

[supple raptor]

ask for piggyback ride, get flan carrying and tackling remi. this checks out.

[zinc flax]

huh cute

[brittle rampart]

yes nai knows well who it is

[zinc flax]

I used illust for that lol

[brittle rampart]

I meant my result. 😁

[zinc flax]

Oh yeah of course nai knows

Basically almost everything lol

[brittle rampart]

and it's scary 🤣

[supple raptor]

Amazingly, Illustrious knows concepts that even NAI didn't learn. NAI cutoff is usually around 500 appearances on danbooru before a tag works, but Illustrious often works with tags that only have about 100 appearances.

[vital raptor]

there's something extremely satisfying about having your code officially merged into software you use on a daily basis

[zinc flax]

Illustrous can do finger heart while nai can't

Local is finally winning frfr

[brittle rampart]

I didn't understand correctly?!

[vital raptor]

that's heart hands, finger heart is just the index finger and thumb

[brittle rampart]

what is true?

[vital raptor]

yeah, like that

[brittle rampart]

Then. he can.

but maybe not so often

[vital raptor]

pony models don't seem to be able to do it (might be an artist thing) but it does heart hands really well

[brittle rampart]

Yes, you already talked about this earlier. I noticed.

[brittle rampart]

and yet - HE CAN!

[zinc flax]

I just realised it's the japanese goblin girl

[supple raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/suika-suika-ibuki-memories-of-phantasm-touhou-touhou-project-gif-22010918

[brittle rampart]

But I’m wondering, is this really an anime series based Touhou?

[bold ether]

could be Touhou Musou Kakyou. Haven't watched it yet.

[supple raptor]

Possibly memories of phantasm. I've only seen clips https://myanimelist.net/anime/55315/Gensou_Mangekyou__The_Memories_of_Phantasm

[vital raptor]

it's on youtube 😄 https://youtu.be/gjoH4PY6oSs?si=07icPX1IIQY7gdMu

[supple raptor]

There are also a ton of studio quality fan made animations for touhou

[vital raptor]

the animation quality is impressive for a fan project

[supple raptor]

Yeah touhou fans have some serious dedication. If you need more proof see how quickly Bad Apple is made on anything that can possibly play an animation

[vital raptor]

yeah, bad apple is how i learned about touhou originally 😄

[supple raptor]

It's a bop. I have it in pretty much all of my go-to playlists.

[brittle rampart]

me too

[desert island]

I just did the math for myself... just based off of my own renders it would take me 11 straight days of compute just to render 20 minutes of video at 16fps and 720p... this is not including writing, voicing, sfx, music, etc.

[brittle rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtutLA63Cp8

[supple raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/ruan-mentioned-gif-23876676

[desert island]

this is gorgeous thanks for sharing. I've never seen this before.

[brittle rampart]

I think this clip is so famous as the AMV of one German person on Evangelion

[vital raptor]

i just realized i saw this when it came out... 14 years ago

[desert island]

I knew nothing about Touhou and apparently it's avid fanbase until just a couple of days ago.

[vital raptor]

the funny part is all the remixes and remakes of the song/video, but then there's entire documentaries about it

it's insane

[brittle rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIcOIc7AFww

[supple raptor]

This fan base is crazy. There are so many different variations. There's even a comfy node that plays bad apple in ASCII art https://youtu.be/240Vq6tIxio?si=nMjSpzsYxQQBC681

[desert island]

Look out rabbit hole here I come.

[vital raptor]

until i got into AI stuff, the only other place I ever saw touhou stuff was the occasional random doujin

[supple raptor]

https://github.com/BetaDoggo/ComfyUI-VideoPlayer

[vital raptor]

that gives me an idea...

I have a custom made LED panel made from rbg light strips and it can play pixel art, just never had an actual use for it

i should put it on the wall and just play bad apple on loop 😄

[desert island]

that's cool! you should post a video of it once you have it set up 😆

[brittle rampart]

and be sure to make a video for us how cool it will look!

[vital raptor]

not sure if it has enough pixels to look good, but if i get it setup i'll definitely share

[brittle rampart]

@supple raptor tell me, is it really “Cookies”??

[desert island]

sigh animation is tough 😡 does anyone have experience doing anime style animation? Tooncrafter is a pain and I've never been able to get a good anime result with SVD

[brittle rampart]

anyone have experience doing anime style animation I think such people work in studios

[desert island]

well I'm gonna keep beating my head against this wall until I get at least a little closer.

[supple raptor]

Yep. Marisa was following Yue around

[brittle rampart]

So this is Yue's cunning and insidious plan!?!!? how expected! 🤣

[desert island]

I've got a couple more ideas that might help some... I'm using an IPAdapter already but I think I have a couple more techniques I can try from my SVD stuff and then I'm gonna see if I can use florence to better alter some prompts for specific keyframes.

[supple raptor]

i think theres just a hole in her bag

[brittle rampart]

oh this YUE

[supple raptor]

Yesh

[lyric zealot]

Perfect time to share this: https://youtu.be/Grp6m57IRdg?si=8V1djiPOZaqWFwUU

Done by neuro community called the swarm, me included

[brittle rampart]

but in appearance, today she decided to imitate Chino Cafu from “Rabbit House”?!

[supple raptor]

gn chat

[steady grail]

if a model is not trained for that concept, it's very hard, no matter the effort

images get interpretated by the model in something completell different

and you need the right prompt to help the model understand the forms and simply regen them in anime style

[supple raptor]

That image is also going to be particularly difficult because of the very low contrast of the man's skin and the dark backdrop.

[steady grail]

yup

the ideal is to cut the single subjects from the image, regen them singularly using diffuse

and regen separatelly the background

and than fuse all together and regen it at very low denois to fuse everything

this is what i pushed for!

my workflow works!

now i'm the chibi master!

cute things are at my graspt!

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-20076210

the mangled hands fight back!

[near elbow]

"(((miku))) as a cute snowman, winter wonderland"

[steady grail]

grabby

what ress is that?

[near elbow]

"(((miku))) chibi rock star stage lighting electric guitar cool" - no special models nor LoRAs were harmed in the making 🙂

[steady grail]

lol

[near elbow]

"(((miku))) chibi rock star stage lighting electric guitar cool, semireal style"

cinematic makes it... creepy

whoa!

[steady grail]

agree

give me the prompt, let's see how my model react lol

[near elbow]

"cinematic still (((miku))) big head cute chibi rock star stage lighting electric guitar cool . emotional, harmonious, vignette, highly detailed, high budget, bokeh, cinemascope, moody, epic, gorgeous, film grain, grainy"

with flux schnell unchained, no negatives

the core is the "miku ... cool" part, rest is just for the cinematic look

[near elbow]

native 2048x768 - no duplication issues with flux 🙂

[steady grail]

insane

[near elbow]

adding cyberpunk... now all we need is a 3d printer!

[near elbow]

just for fun 1352x2048 but that takes much longer

voilà

[nova remnant]

(she doesn't know how to play, it sounds horrible)

[vital raptor]

that's why she's crying

[lyric zealot]

You sound horrible

[desert island]

I missed a whole Miku adventure today 😆

[lyric zealot]

There used to be a miku thread in here that people often post miku in it. Since that’s gone, people with stable society role been posting them in #💣｜stable-society channel

[nova remnant]

[nova remnant]

ugly

[vital raptor]

I don’t have access to the channel so that means it doesn’t exist

[lyric zealot]

i demand miku-mash to be re-enabled

[finite herald]

do u now?

[lyric zealot]

[steady grail]

he speaks the voice of the people!

[lyric zealot]

[steady grail]

Miku shall have her abode!

🤣

i saw too much game of thrones XD

[supple raptor]

i second this motion. miku deserves her own thread. also, miku role please

[green temple]

🙃

[green temple]

😂

[bitter latch]

interesting results with trading card template in the prompt

sad miku pokemon?

[steady grail]

i'm starting to think that it's better to simply use the nai clip and thrash everything else

the quality is totally on another level

[steady grail]

male chartacters with nude chest are permitted?

[near elbow]

powermoth 🙂

[supple raptor]

using nai clip also often helps make most loras work better on your model

[steady grail]

it's like a cheat

what's the point of beating the head mixing clips?

much better pooling all together a clip well done

[supple raptor]

there isn't one. merging clip is almost always a bad idea.

just pick a good clip and slap it on the model and call it a day

[steady grail]

you don't even have to beat the head understanding new models

totally agree

by the tests looks like that the cured and full model use the same clip

with one or the other, the results were the same

unless i just found the same shared tokens lol

anyway it was a funny adventure

i try to mix more models after some tests on this one

[nova remnant]

Grabby

[nova remnant]

Not grabby

[nova remnant]

runs away

She's going to explode

[supple raptor]

she's just going to keep following you until you gib donation

https://tenor.com/view/marisa-marisa-kirisame-reimu-reimu-hakurei-touhou-gif-8421951465895540599

[brittle rampart]

I don’t think Marisa would part with the coin so easily.

[supple raptor]

it's ok, she borrowed it from reimu when she wasn't looking anyways

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-luna-nights-thief-borrow-permanently-borrowing-marisa-gif-26304935