🍥｜anime

[steady grail]

see ya

[glacial bane]

See ya

[steady grail]

realistic ai gives me true creeps, they are grapically good, but, my god

[bitter latch]

cause it's to good?

[stable crane]

the true photorealistic ones are indistinguishable from a photo

[bitter latch]

which got a guy in canada put in jail

[steady grail]

don't know, honestly, some are really good, but they have something that just don0t make me feel so well

[stable crane]

maybe uncanny valley

[bitter latch]

ok reinstalled speccy

[steady grail]

people need to be virtuous and responsable, with power

ai can damage people, if used in a stupid way

[bitter latch]

ok enough art for now, gonna play that game I got on humble choice this month(I forgot to cancel might as well play some)

[zinc flax]

I'd rather use AI for anime stuff

[steady grail]

maybe that's the reason photorealism gives me creeps

[bitter latch]

temtem

thats why I like the merge I created that is more anime cg fantasy

sorta real but not to far . sometimes

sometimes it does but shrugs

[zinc flax]

2.5d is also fine

[neon linden]

@bitter latch have you tested the other games from the choice bundle? Like Roadwarden

kind of interested on it but no idea if it is good

[bitter latch]

no havn't yet

[steady grail]

what's written there?

[bitter latch]

Trillion stone spine

[bitter latch]

not sure what the last one is

fi

so it's trillion stone spine fi

[lyric zealot]

i was almost sure it's some random words

[bitter latch]

yes.. those

😄

[lyric zealot]

here you go cutie ||metadata||

[gloomy scroll]

Wait that text was actually part of it

[bitter latch]

sigh I hate that bug in some games where my direction key gets stuck and I have to hit it again to stop

[lyric zealot]

yup, it's not inserted, that's why i was like, it's probably some random words or gibberish

[bitter latch]

oh I know I just like to translate things like that 😄

ya know I really should add some of the art I do to my site

[crystal meadow]

How can I create something like this in A1111?

[wet elm]

such a cool wallpaper damn

[magic wave]

Lavenza is back

[shy totem]

Hello- sorry was dead for a while.

[magic wave]

No worries, glad to see you're back tho

[shy totem]

[magic wave]

Why sad

[shy totem]

I forgot how slow my GPU generates.

1660Ti is chugging along. 15 minutes per image.

[magic wave]

Oh oooof das fair, you need a upgrade :o

[shy totem]

I don't think I'm getting an upgrade soon.

[wet elm]

is SDXL going to improve anime things?

[bitter latch]

joins the train art .. event?

[keen hollow]

I'll make a train, let's do this.

[magic wave]

Ooooof

[bitter latch]

oops wrong model

[magic wave]

Though I'm still wondering what model you use

[gloomy scroll]

I just took wd1.4 tagger output and gave it as example for train

[gloomy scroll]

[shy totem]

I merged it again with "BeenYou"- the base model is already lost.

[bitter latch]

ok lets try that again

[proud ore]

how you did such a hight resolution??

[shy totem]

The hands

[keen hollow]

hands are still such a pain lol

[gloomy scroll]

No

[keen hollow]

we still doin' trains?

lol

[magic wave]

Well, you should upload it

[magic wave]

Those are decent

[bitter latch]

a more sorta modern piece

[brittle jay]

Wth

[keen hollow]

people were doin' trains!

I just wanted to do something weird and different lol

[shy totem]

That you did-

[keen hollow]

everyone always posts the same ol' portraits all day 😄

FINE .. here's a regular ol' train....

[brittle jay]

@shy totem what model are you using?

[steady grail]

what a cute train, but, here is the passenger's vagon? lol

[shy totem]

I merged it with a ton of other models to the point I don't even know anymore.

[brittle jay]

Name some

[shy totem]

I don't remember the base, but I'm sure I used the pastel one, then AbyssOrangeMix and AnythingV5 then the latest would be BeenYou and ToonYou.

These are the settings I use:

[bitter latch]

hmm no train but interesting

wait.. two suns?

hmm almost looks like each side is a diff place/time?

[brittle jay]

Is this without hires fix

[bitter latch]

yes

[brittle jay]

Then of course it looks like this

[bitter latch]

ok let me do it with hi-res fix then

[supple raptor]

I dub this the horny train. All aboard?

[shy totem]

Ah I should mention I use Token Merging and set the CLIP Skip to 2. Not sure if those make any difference but Token Merging speeds it up quite a bit.

[bitter latch]

50%

[stable crane]

lmao

Thomasina the Spank Engine

[cyan burrow]

can sdxl 1.0 run on automatic yet?

downloading it now 😮

gonna be a bit before all extensions and tools catch up

[keen hollow]

Not really up to speed on sdxl. Lemme know how it goes.

[bitter latch]

tried the animesh_prunedv21 model

[stable crane]

sounds like comfyui can run it

[bitter latch]

hmm might add that to my merge

after more testing

[supple raptor]

@keen hollow im only a little sorry

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1133848049295306803.png?size=160&name=horni-train

[bitter latch]

hha

should be an emoji

ponders borrowing it for his server

😄

dang this gets realistic in an anime sorta way

[keen hollow]

yay my train

[bitter latch]

now lets try something different

[keen hollow]

I knew you all would love it

[bitter latch]

got me food on the way Hibachi Chicken, Fried Rice, Hibachi Shrimp, 2 Cheese Steak Roll

[bitter latch]

and she goes back to catch one.. or is she throwing it?

[regal coyote]

normal highres fix

[bitter latch]

it's freaking hot outside

[wispy canopy]

move to nl, it's pretty damn good out here actually...

[bitter latch]

mmm these shrimp are good

[bitter latch]

thats better

[keen hollow]

Today's Tifa

[bitter latch]

eats some chicken with fried rice while watching "Bubblegum crisis"

can't forget the Phiilly steak rolls. love these things

[gusty palm]

oof where are u

i thought it was bad here

[gloomy scroll]

She stuck?

[gloomy scroll]

Everywhere I look I see that F

[gusty palm]

i should make a girl zelda waifu

whats a hypernetwork

[supple raptor]

Kinda like a LoRA, but worse in every way. Even before LoRAs were a thing, they never caught on.

[runic vault]

old tech best used for styles i guess...

well that's how nai used them anyways

[stable crane]

hypernets were god before lora

but it was strange they didn't catch on

I still use some occasionally

[steady grail]

hypernets makes all the results the same, they are very boring

[gusty palm]

ahh

[gusty palm]

figured they would be better cuz of the cool sounding name

[steady grail]

in the past, models where very unstable and generated too many mutations and they solved it like this.

any contaminated many models like a plague <.<

[stable crane]

untrue, depends on the prompt, they would often just make everything a certain style

[steady grail]

yeah, but the faces where pretty much the same, no matter the prompt.
often, even the prospective and their posture was hard to change

[stable crane]

maybe because most artists draw the same face

in my experience it just felt like an early-day LORA

[steady grail]

i feel them way less flexible than lora

[stable crane]

could only use 1

until recently

[steady grail]

lora?

[stable crane]

no, hypernet

at the time, you could just pick one

[steady grail]

oh

[steady grail]

yeah, true

cute, but the image looks a little burn out

[stable crane]

they still hold up

[steady grail]

i love ai lol

[slate night]

Don't ask why she's leaning like that lmao

[slate night]

(Hope you don't mind me borrowing your girl for a few gens Vil hehe)

[gloomy scroll]

Someone else is challenging magic circle prompt

[gusty palm]

whats the "collection" selection thingy in the wildcards manager

[lyric zealot]

ultra long super skinny legs

[gusty palm]

im swtiching from tropical to advanced-science-fiction-locations,

[slate night]

I tried lmao

Also again with the leaning

does circular platform count as a magic circle

[gloomy scroll]

Yeah I used cnet and RP for that

[steady grail]

is evident they enlisted her for her innate battle talent lol

[gusty palm]

i just had to re-seat my sdram sticks for some reason, taskmon was showing only 8gb of systemram, all fixed now

happened a few months ago too i think a piece wiggled free or something

[polar anchor]

@supple raptor you da best btw. I have been making magic all day with your model. I left a review for you on Civit. Thank you!

[bitter latch]

Barbie-heimer

no?

[gusty palm]

bone crunching sound

[supple raptor]

Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying it!

[supple raptor]

When you high dive but miss the water

[gusty palm]

lol

[polar anchor]

It’s been so awesome! I didn’t wanna share some of my favorite ones just in case people steal it or something lol. But they will be on my IG for sure. Lol

[gusty palm]

i finally trying kakigori

[slate night]

It's a very cute model, I think you'll like it

[gusty palm]

loving what im seeing

[crystal meadow]

Whoaa! That's close. What Model and Lora did you use?

[gusty palm]

(why)

[bitter latch]

<@&1060374302433738782>, @golden basalti got spammer!

@dry hatch

[crystal meadow]

Hey Loved this one. Which model did you use?

[polar anchor]

It’s so good! I’m loving it. I’ll send you what I did with it

[gusty palm]

think it was lottamix

[polar anchor]

😍

I need to upscale but the abstract t is so cool

[gusty palm]

or coffeebreak

would it be in the png metadata

[slate night]

Yeah model name is in the png metadata

[polar anchor]

Good to know

[elfin geode]

got em thank you!

[elfin geode]

👀

[slate night]

I would watch CYYBRBICLER

[gusty palm]

bicler

[bitter latch]

suppose to be a G.I. Joe

there now it's more anime

[supple raptor]

cute!

[supple raptor]

this is very neat!

[gusty palm]

gonna gpu with this model all day tomorrow

[bitter latch]

gasps

[bitter latch]

umm.. phrasing. phrasing

blinks

[regal pivot]

add some ganz0 suits and you will be remembered as a hero ... 🙏

[bitter latch]

that with just layer and color stuff in GIMp

now lets try in img2img 😄

[bitter latch]

ganz0? hmm not familiar

well that went to scary

[untold glacier]

💘

[bitter latch]

redoes the prompt and treis again. adding that ganz0 stuff

😄

I mean suit

[untold glacier]

I know a Watson when I see one.

[bitter latch]

... hmm

[brittle rampart]

I realized what WebUI is missing .. This is a short text description for Lores, embeddings, etc., In which at least keywords can be entered... 😭

[untold glacier]

There is the extension Model Organizer, that can somewhat do that but I tried it and didn't like how everything was in its own tab, separate from the interface I use to select and view my network extensions.
So, I just keep a very long, detailed .txt file up to date. 😅
Extension: https://github.com/alexandersokol/sd-model-organizer.git

[brittle rampart]

where were you before, my savior!?

i am must try it now!

[untold glacier]

Oh, looks like they've updated it since I used it last. It may be a lot more usable now.

[boreal rock]

is there going to be any good Full Fine-tune for Anime on SDXL?
SDXL already generates pretty good Anime tho not that perfect but much better than anime's generated by previous base models.

So I bet it would make a great base model for anime generation. Considering that it got 3.5Billion Parameters meaning more room for superior quality then what current top anime models generate like anythingv3.

[untold glacier]

I'd imagine given time, yes.

[bitter latch]

well thats interesting

[boreal rock]

it was almost perfect, only if finger wasn't the part of her lips.

[gloomy lodge]

I just picked one at random most of the time i dont fiddel with the images so people know what they are getting with the prompts

[boreal rock]

but viewing without nitpicking, it's gorgeous

[boreal rock]

wow, is that made using SDXL?

[bitter latch]

turns off style pile

[bitter latch]

nope

[boreal rock]

then which one?

[bitter latch]

my ElegantRPGanimeMagick Mix/merge

[boreal rock]

based on 1.5?

[bitter latch]

I think so

[supple raptor]

It's built in. Just have to put a .txt file next to the thing you want it for with the same filename and enter the text you want to show up inside the txt file.

of course the first one I stopped on to take a screenshot would have that txt.

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1133848049295306803.png?size=160&name=horni-train

[supple raptor]

I have much worse that I could have grabbed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1094779330099433562.webp?size=64&name=uhhhhh&quality=lossless

[untold glacier]

So you have to keep up with multiple text files, all of which are separate from SD. That sounds like a major pain. Better to have an all in one list, or the extension that keeps things organized and is searchable in-SD.

[supple raptor]

Or LoRA trainers could just make these files for the user so it isn't such a pain in the ass.

[untold glacier]

Well, the Civitai helper does something similar.

[brittle rampart]

one last thing about trainers from fantastic stuff!

[untold glacier]

It's a lot harder to read though

[supple raptor]

Alternatively, if the lora trainer isn't an asshole that removes the metadata from their LoRAs, you can just look in here at the top few tags

[supple raptor]

that's not civ helper. that's built in. See my screenshot above

[untold glacier]

Then what are all the .info files doing alongside my LoRAs?

Being non-helpful?

[supple raptor]

silly extensions do silly things

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/930630372348289044.webp?size=64&name=chenShrug&quality=lossless

[bitter latch]

hehe she looks.. confused.. surprrised?

[bitter latch]

ok it's stuck on that armor

[brittle rampart]

This is pretty painful for me.... where? what? and why?

[bitter latch]

Miku Barbie

[supple raptor]

It's the most indented section. The first few are what will reasonably work to activate the LoRA.

[untold glacier]

Aight. I figured out what was happening. There's a separate refresh button with Civitai Helper for the network extensions that I missed. Once I refreshed it, the network extension cards are showing the proper interface for accessing the .info files. It's still limited, but among other things, it has the option to replace your prompt with the prompt of the card, or to add the trigger words into the prompt--if they were given in Civitai.

[brittle rampart]

But where are those keywords then?

[untold glacier]

If you use the Civitai helper extension, it will add them into the info file (if you downloaded the model from civitai) and you can easily access them as I stated above. The second icon from the right.

Otherwise, it's guesswork.

[brittle rampart]

I think I tried this extension but did not understand how I can get the Civitai key. if I don't confuse anything

[untold glacier]

It should scan them automatically and find the models from the hash. It's super simple.

When you have it installed, go to the Civitai Helper tab, then ensure under the "Scan Models for Civitai" the model types you want to scan for are selected (usually I have them all checked.) Then you just click scan and it'll find the info, download it, and associate it with all of the network extensions and models that it can find.

[brittle rampart]

ok. but i am not have this is extention

[untold glacier]

Your UI might look slightly different, as I'm using a different extension.

[untold glacier]

Yeah, that's the extension. 3rd one down.

[untold glacier]

Your tab. (Again it will look slightly different on your system, but the tab name will be the same.)

[brittle rampart]

oki-doki! installed!

[bitter latch]

welp i'm going to bed

[untold glacier]

G'night!

[brittle rampart]

g`night

[untold glacier]

You definitely have a vibe going. You're making me want to watch this anime, lol.

[brittle rampart]

Scaning.......

[south sable]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-match-body-scan-measurements-gif-15998864

[untold glacier]

Be sure to refresh your network extensions with the refresh button and the other refresh button once its done, then you'll get all the previews and .info options.

[south sable]

I'll need your prompts... your workflows... and your LoRAs

https://tenor.com/view/óculos-escuro-exterminador-terminator-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-14440790

[untold glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-arnold-schwarzenegger-smiling-forced-smile-awkward-smile-gif-8083425

[brittle rampart]

Civitai Helper!

[south sable]

yes, on a serious note, its a great extension

I've been stuck in ComfyUI for a week now tho

[brittle rampart]

will this button be available after the scanning process?

[untold glacier]

I would imagine it would be there already, not that you'd want to refresh yet. But it could be that if you've just installed the extension SD might need to restart before the interface updates.

[untold glacier]

Alongside your network extension buttons, so on the main txt2img or i2i tabs.

[bitter latch]

ok before I really goto bed.... how does the rock pee?

He Dwaynes his johnson

runs

[untold glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/aharen-dies-from-cringe-meme-anime-hug-anime-aharen-san-dies-from-cringe-aharen-gif-25368592

[bitter latch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/1rL3hRI9WdY1vDxtW5

[brittle rampart]

Scaning process is done. now i an click Save Setting?

[untold glacier]

You can, but it likely won't change anything. Now that the scanning is done, you should be good to go.

[brittle rampart]

wow. now i can just click "use prompt from.... " its a nice!

@untold glacier

[untold glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/raingump-kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-gif-26528408

[brittle rampart]

I think both extensions are more than enough for me to organize data. In my opinion they both complement each other. thanks a lot.

[untold glacier]

Awesome. Glad to help.

[brittle rampart]

very easy add new content from CivitAi... Nice.....

[next magnet]

Does this feature work for you?

[untold glacier]

You have to hit the refresh button to the right of the refresh button in order for it to show up.

[wet elm]

its not showing up for me, ive refreshed many times lol

[next magnet]

I was already using it, but it broke today

[wet elm]

me too

[untold glacier]

I haven't upgraded SD in a couple of weeks. Have y'all?

[wet elm]

yeah, maybe its that

[brittle rampart]

this is rather not an update button, but a button for adding extended information on the card

[wet elm]

we got a really cool new feature too its called edit metadata

[wet elm]

yeah this

[next magnet]

It has been broken since this feature arrived

[wet elm]

same

author will prob update it soon i hope

[untold glacier]

Yep, it refreshes the UI to see the extended info.

[untold glacier]

That's probably it then, yeah.

[brittle rampart]

1. click Refresh button
   2 click botton with blue array near

[wet elm]

imma go to sleep gn yall

[untold glacier]

Goodnight!

[untold glacier]

Yep.

[brittle rampart]

yees!

[untold glacier]

Sadly, it looks like the recent Automatic1111 update interferes with the process.

[untold glacier]

When's the last time you updated SD btw?

[next magnet]

Is there a way to install the old version?

[untold glacier]

Oh wow. Auto just updated, lol.

[next magnet]

It doesn't work on version 1.5.1

[brittle rampart]

I've read that you shouldn't upgrade to 1.5....

[untold glacier]

So you literally just got the latest then.

Sadly, my UI doesn't tell me my specific version, heh.

[brittle rampart]

just the other day I put everything from scratch. and now use v.1.4.1.

[untold glacier]

Was talking to Onurcenko, since they're on 1.5.1

Which just released an hour ago

[next magnet]

I don't know, it's doing automatic updates

I am rolling back to version 1.4.1.

@brittle rampart@untold glacier It was a big issue for me, it's resolved, thank you.

[untold glacier]

Reverting worked? Good to know.

[untold glacier]

Goodnight, peeps.

[brittle rampart]

very cute LoRa! thank!

[gloomy scroll]

I used only Kakigori v2 model

[brittle rampart]

btw. CivitAi removed one my pic for Kakigori v2 model page.. sadly

[gloomy scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/doggo-boop-gif-22290017

[brittle rampart]

auuuuf fff!!!!

[bitter latch]

didn't have all the lora's needed so I just used fluffyrock model 😄

[slate night]

So quick question... I downloaded a checkpoint that has a yaml file... I've never had a checkpoint that needed one before. Is there a special folder I need to put it in?

[vocal elbow]

too hard to fix it

[vocal elbow]

[keen hollow]

I haven't had issues with the latest Auto version - are people having problems?

[slate night]

Yeah it's been a bit buggy for me

Thing I've noticed most is my prompts don't stay in the txt2img boxes. Like I closed my laptop and they vanished lol

And they don't copy over like they're supposed to from png info either

[stable crane]

I think you put it beside

[gloomy scroll]

I promise I use more than one prompt

[summer shuttle]

somehow failed but idk

[summer shuttle]

ok one more

[brittle rampart]

oh.. in my pics LoRa`s just cosmetics.. Details, light....but model is Kakigori v2

[gloomy scroll]

Same girl. Same pose. Different background. I'm so creative

[keen hollow]

Gonna keep an eye on this SDXL stuff. Feels sort of bloated with the extra refining steps.

Tried out Comfy too, interesting but will definitely take some learning.

[gloomy scroll]

Enjoy this where's Waldo game. ||I gave up||

[stable crane]

I don't get it

[gloomy scroll]

Adetailer detected 4 hands on that image

[stable crane]

ahh

[bitter latch]

calvin from calvin and hobbs

[rough oxide]

dump of some SDXL gens. can't wait for the finetunes to come in

[bitter latch]

hmm calvin got a change as he grew up?

[wet elm]

Whaaaaat fr? This looks too good for a non-anime model dayum

did you edit the text on the pool one?

[rough oxide]

Nope, that genned with the text i prompted it with (oops i replied to the wrong message, this was for the "did you edit the text on the pool one?" xD)

[bitter latch]

ok NOW it's calvin and hobbs (sorta)

[wet elm]

thats crazy

I need to dowload SDXL

[rough oxide]

has higher spec requirement but very worth it to use imo

[wet elm]

also, what prompt did you use for the pool one?

[wet elm]

do you think 6gb vram eill be enough?

[rough oxide]

no; 8 minimum for sdxl if reqs are still the same

it's a much bigger model

and refiner goes to like 10-11 GB VRAM

although refiner maybe isn't necessary for anime gens

partly because sdxl is a 1024x1024 model too, i don't think 6GB can do that very well on any of the models

[west atlas]

yes its enough in comfy up to 1440p

[rough oxide]

is it?

what are the vram reqs & stuff nowadays i thought 8 was minimum still

although comfy has done a ton of optimizations lol

[west atlas]

you can do this on 6gb vram

[rough oxide]

you're using a bad vae for that image

[west atlas]

or this workflow too

[rough oxide]

if you're not using it yet, this is the recommended vae to use with sdxl https://huggingface.co/stabilityai/sdxl-vae/blob/main/sdxl_vae.safetensors (released by them as well)

that duck has a bad vae applied to it

aka one included with 1.0 i think

[west atlas]

can't load the vae, i need the model with the vae baked in

[rough oxide]

oof... you'll have a bad time with anime gens

the bad 1.0 vae really affects illustrative stuff

[supple raptor]

which webui are you using SDXL on?

[west atlas]

comfyuii

[analog dagger]

Made with sdxl

[supple raptor]

Then you definitely don't need a baked vae. Just use the VAE loader node to load the vae separately. and make all vae connections go to that node.

[rough oxide]

ye, it's as simple as this

instead of using the checkpoint vae

[wet elm]

is comfyui better for 6gb?

[west atlas]

yes

[gusty palm]

i wanna see a movie in this artstyle

[gusty palm]

so coooool

[bitter latch]

downloads and installs sdxl

hmm looks simple enough. now what kind of results will I get or will my vid card go F U

we'll see

here goes

crosses fingers

it's moving... slowly

it's only at 30%. oh boy

well not going to be using this much until I get a better system

first gen

umm

huh

hmm getting error on refiner. odd

oh well

well tried mergin sd_xl with some preve models. yeah win10 blue screen. ok not doing that again

doh!

creates a new merg

merge

grinz

hmm how shall I test it

[untold glacier]

Dude, I appreciate your enthusiasm but we really don't need the play-by-play. You're just spamming random thoughts into the chat. Can we tone it down a bit? 😅

[bitter latch]

no one else was talking

I wasn't interupting anything or anyone. but ok

[untold glacier]

That's not a reason to spam the chat...

[bitter latch]

it's not spam if it's got a point to it and not selling or convincing anyone of anything. it's called chat for a reason. but ok

[untold glacier]

I'm not going to argue etymology with ya, bud. If there's someone just talking aimlessly into the chat, I know I often find myself looking for other places to be or talk.

[bitter latch]

shrugs. ok

you do you I'll do me, and all is well in the world

k... k.. moving on. next

I mean.. I am called randomtora for a reason

😄

anyone else awake ?

[bitter latch]

ooh nice

but kinda creepy

[bitter latch]

there we go, did a first pass then refined in img2img

with the new merge model. works well I think

[gusty palm]

just realized the reason random fish kept showing up in my renders is because of (fish eye lens) token

[bitter latch]

ah ha

[bitter latch]

ahh thats better

[untold glacier]

[bitter latch]

upsized it in img to img with some other settings. better?

or should i just try something else?

[gusty palm]

i like those starry looking skies

[bitter latch]

YES

runs in circles and falls over

[lyric zealot]

my first generation with SDXL

[rough oxide]

if you want better quality use this vae: https://huggingface.co/stabilityai/sdxl-vae/blob/main/sdxl_vae.safetensors

[lyric zealot]

should i be using vae? Heard it's bad

[rough oxide]

What's bad is the vae you're using

this is the same vae, without the artifacts

[lyric zealot]

[rough oxide]

your output has lots of artifacts

chromatic aberration, etc

if you notice, even they went back on the vae, since they reverted the update to the vae weights xD

[rough oxide]

oh, so like, yesterday if someone gave the link it would've been bad, it should've been an earlier commit link, but today they updated it and reverted the changes to vae and now the main link is the correct link

so back to my point, even the sdxl devs realized the 1.0 vae was bad xD

[lyric zealot]

Im almost certain im not doing this right

why is the vae not applying?

[rough oxide]

Auto 1111 or comfy?

[lyric zealot]

using auto1111

[rough oxide]

mmmm

Try naming the vae the same thing as your model

not very exp with using sdxl in auto1111

if it's in vae folder with same exact name as the base model

it might work?

<base model name>.vae.safetensors

or however it works

[lyric zealot]

hold on im checking something

doing a plot to see if there's actually any difference

[rough oxide]

i can tell at a glance

you'll get the same image but no aberration/line noise

[rough oxide]

yes

it is applied

right is correct

left

[lyric zealot]

like there's literally no difference, no idea if i am applying this vae correctly or not

[rough oxide]

right

it is applied correctly

[untold glacier]

[rough oxide]

see how the one on right is cleaner

no aberration, no noise

[lyric zealot]

bro

i guess i need to get my eyes checked or something

[untold glacier]

I see it, but it's slight.

[rough oxide]

in some images it's more present than others

but you applied vae correctly

[untold glacier]

Lemme point it out

[lyric zealot]

1 is none, 2 is with

[untold glacier]

See the diff?

[rough oxide]

you don't ALWAYS have to zoom in

[rough oxide]

for this onei coul dsee it all over

without zooming in

like

it was present everywhere

[lyric zealot]

without vs with

like do i need to zoom in to see this shit?

[rough oxide]

there for example it was in the eyes

[untold glacier]

Has a much slighter effect than 1.x VAE comparison.

[rough oxide]

you don't always ahve to zoom in

i can just see it at a glance sometimes

[untold glacier]

You just zoomed in though, lol.

[rough oxide]

which is why i pointed it out

ye

to show the comparison

[lyric zealot]

what am i looking at tbh

[rough oxide]

i can see it a lot easier lol

[lyric zealot]

like what am i suppoed to see

[rough oxide]

the rainbow effect & line artifacts

[untold glacier]

[lyric zealot]

[untold glacier]

See #🍥｜anime message

[lyric zealot]

i guess im literally blind af

[untold glacier]

Tell me you don't see that

[rough oxide]

i have a trained eye for AI stuff lol

[lyric zealot]

this i do see

[rough oxide]

i can see it at a glance

but to show a comparison i did zoom in, yes lol

i see it strongly on edges

[untold glacier]

Definitely a lighter difference than 1.x with VAE vs no VAE

[rough oxide]

no zoom without vs with

this is a HUGE difference imo

and this is no zoom

this is 100% scale

[lyric zealot]

where is this even in the pic? lmao i cant find shit

[rough oxide]

i can see that at a glance

[untold glacier]

No WONDER you're having problems, lol

[rough oxide]

pfff @untold glacier doubtin me. but that is non zoom regular scale

and i can see the chromatic aberration+lines

xD

[lyric zealot]

im literally blind i guess

[rough oxide]

it's very apparent on edges

[untold glacier]

It's not a huge difference. It's just a difference, heh.

[rough oxide]

well, quality is quality lol

[untold glacier]

Look back at the 1.x no vae vs vae, and there's a big difference all around.

[rough oxide]

anyways, just a suggestion, pointed it out as i saw it xD

cuz i mainly saw it on the hands and face on that pic

[untold glacier]

Good eyes though

[lyric zealot]

can you like point out where is this in my pic? I wanna find it on my source pic and zoom in

[rough oxide]

tl;dr if you use the vae you just downloaded, it won't have any of that artifacting anymore, it produces the same exact image, no compositional change

[lyric zealot]

learnt today that im blind af

[rough oxide]

but you see it in the hand example i posted?

that was 100% scale no zoom

[untold glacier]

Lol?

[rough oxide]

pokerface.png

lol

[lyric zealot]

are you getting link to the wrong pic im talking about?

[untold glacier]

Ohhhh. Now I'm the one who is blind, lol.

[lyric zealot]

or like am i seriously blind that this pic is at the fingers there

[untold glacier]

Thought you were talking about the other one

[lyric zealot]

[lyric zealot]

ohhhh

that's the eyes

nice

i was looking at hair

[untold glacier]

YOU GOT IT YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEAHHHHHH

[lyric zealot]

i do see it now if i really zoom in

but can't tell any difference when not zoomed in

guess im fucked in the eyes

[untold glacier]

It's just the discoloring more than anything.

Smol Sus need Smol Eyes. 😄

[lyric zealot]

well, just gonna use the vae

[rough oxide]

It's more apparent in some pictures than others, & i know what to look for

[lyric zealot]

[rough oxide]

when you posted that pic, i looked for the most defined edges

like those in your characters hands

and i saw it along the edges of her hands

[untold glacier]

Ok. So, how does one use it if the VAE is already going through the refiner though?

[rough oxide]

You just connect load vae node to everything ... ah wait a1111

[rough oxide]

......Idk how automatic1111 does refiner

[gusty palm]

is controlnet only for poses or is there other uses

[untold glacier]

Tons of uses.

[rough oxide]

u dun use refiner vae at any stage of it

you use the sdxl_vae for all of it

anywhere there's a vae decode part

[untold glacier]

But... you need the refiner for proper upscaling? Right?

[rough oxide]

the vae is the same

base & refiner use same vae

ergo you use the downloaded sdxl_vae

[gusty palm]

what are the chances ill mess something up if i just try some random settings to test it out

[rough oxide]

if you look in files for base & refiner you'll see same hash for vae

[untold glacier]

[rough oxide]

The base and refiner don't use a diff vae, lol.

[untold glacier]

Lemme take a looksee

But the refiner has one built in then?

[rough oxide]

https://huggingface.co/stabilityai/stable-diffusion-xl-refiner-1.0/blob/main/vae/diffusion_pytorch_model.safetensors https://huggingface.co/stabilityai/stable-diffusion-xl-base-1.0/blob/main/vae/diffusion_pytorch_model.safetensors

see here in this instance

the base + refiner use same vae

which means

sdxl_vae here

replaces both of them

[untold glacier]

If you look at the image I uploaded #🍥｜anime message The refiner has a VAE output

[rough oxide]

the downloaded sdxl_vae replaces both

yes

it does

you don't use it

[untold glacier]

So the preset I got for the layout is wrong then.

[rough oxide]

vae for both base+refiner

should be unused 100%

that vae does not exist, it's terrible

xD

it's the same vae for both base+refiner

so you use just the downloaded sdxl_vae

[lyric zealot]

[rough oxide]

here's my workflow if u wanna take a look at how i do it

[untold glacier]

But this is my first time using Comfy, so I mean

[rough oxide]

it's a full custom workflow tho, doesn't copy anything else

[untold glacier]

Thanks. I'll load it up

[rough oxide]

Base + Refiner have a baked in vae, this baked in vae is the vae that was so bad the SDXL devs reverted the upload of it

and instead made the main vae the 0.9 one which is now the one available at the main link

You use that 0.9 vae for every vae decode node.

you never use the vae from base or refiner, both are unused.

[untold glacier]

So... I believe that's the one I downloaded then? It was a separate VAE.

[rough oxide]

yea if you got it frommm

[untold glacier]

Further up in chat

[rough oxide]

https://huggingface.co/stabilityai/sdxl-vae/blob/main/sdxl_vae.safetensors

yes

[untold glacier]

[rough oxide]

this is the only vae you use

[untold glacier]

Now I just have to understand what I'm looking at. What is this?

[rough oxide]

text_l modifier

most workflows don't really separate it, yea? but

it's actually

REALLY IMPORTANT to separate it

for high quality results

ummm

it's actually kind of hard to explain how to use it properly too

[untold glacier]

ʙᴜᴛ ᴡʜᴀᴛ ᴅᴏᴇs ɪᴛ ᴅᴏ

[rough oxide]

uhhhh it's an additional positive prompt

using a different CLIP model

green = clip vit-g (biggest model, most comprehension)

yellow = clip vit-l

ummmmm

lemme load one of my good image outputs

here's an example of how i used it

but

uhhh

it's not really good to just

paste green into yellow

like a lot of things do

You can also just leave yellow blank sometimes

it's not required

and you would get a higher quality output

[lyric zealot]

there's too much talking, so here's a pic

[rough oxide]

than filling it in with a copy paste of both

these pictures

would all have the full prompt loaded if you put them into comfyui

also IDK if top one had a nsfw prompt

i can't remember

xD

that would show examples

of how i use the yellow box

[untold glacier]

Lol. Thanks

[rough oxide]

like for that fireworks one

it looks like this

[untold glacier]

I love the hamster pool, haha

[rough oxide]

lol

sometimes i use it just to try and emphasize some points more

xD

sometimes i just put

[untold glacier]

Alrighty, thanks so much. We should probably let the anime come back to the channel. I appreciate all the help!

[rough oxide]

yeh

i mean

it's important for SDXL anime

[untold glacier]

True.

[rough oxide]

i call it "style text" because i sometimes put the style there, such as like, anime illustration, on paper, drawing, etc

[untold glacier]

Essentially, it'd be the text on an upscale rather than the original t2i. If I'm understanding potential application uses correctly.

[rough oxide]

perhaps

understand that any other workflow you used til now

likely didn't separate it

and the green box

was likely both green+yellow

but through much testing i found that's 100000% not how you do this xD

anime-style stuff comes out SO much better if you differentiate the two too

[untold glacier]

Considering I haven't used comfy until today, I'd say that I haven't dealt with anything like this before, heh.

[rough oxide]

perhaps

xD

[rough oxide]

okay but back to @lyric zealot uhhh

how does automatic 1111 do it?

[lyric zealot]

SDXL is really interesting atm

what do you mean?

[rough oxide]

u were saying refiner was using a different vae or something?

[lyric zealot]

her lips

[rough oxide]

idk how the workflow for 1111 works at allll

[lyric zealot]

i didn't say anything about refiner, because that's like the 2nd step, and im still learning the first step

[rough oxide]

ahhh

okay

Also

here's a suggestion for anime style prompts in SDXL

[lyric zealot]

and for auto1111, you need to swap the model before using it, and it takes a long time to do that

[rough oxide]

Style: Anime Positive: anime artwork {prompt}. anime style, key visual, vibrant, studio anime, highly detailed Negative: photo, deformed, black and white, realism, disfigured, low contrast

[rough oxide]

Ah okay

[lyric zealot]

already got that in my style

[rough oxide]

it automatically has the styles

neat

[lyric zealot]

nope

[rough oxide]

o

lol

[lyric zealot]

i just got it from reddit

[rough oxide]

Lol ic

it was posted in #✨｜sdxl by a mod i think

about 2 weeks ago

[untold glacier]

[rough oxide]

and yea they work pretty good

[lyric zealot]

yup yup and added it to a style stuff

[rough oxide]

gotta modify em a bit per prompt

but they're good

[lyric zealot]

you got to modify them?

[rough oxide]

owo

[lyric zealot]

brb

[rough oxide]

xD

[lyric zealot]

got to go get my food

[untold glacier]

What... what am I looking at

[lyric zealot]

it's lunch time

[rough oxide]

ur lookin at these

[lyric zealot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/15afvnb/sdxl_various_styles_keywords/

yup that

[untold glacier]

Thanks!

[rough oxide]

ewwww the reddit post format

[rough oxide]

is not very clean

[lyric zealot]

this is so much better

[rough oxide]

Lol

yea this is the one that was posted by mods in sdxl

[lyric zealot]

well, that comment below is for auto1111 style

[rough oxide]

Ah i see

[untold glacier]

Ah... so it's just additions to the prompt. I getcha.

[rough oxide]

yea what i do is take like

[lyric zealot]

so if you are using auto1111, then it's great

[rough oxide]

the words i wanna use from each one

[lyric zealot]

[rough oxide]

i usually use the full negative

but then cherrypick the words i wanna use from the style

[untold glacier]

I'd love to, but I have to wait for the SDXL 1.0 compatibility.

[rough oxide]

and then add my own style text too

[untold glacier]

Anyway, go get ya food

[lyric zealot]

it's already working, no?

[untold glacier]

Wait what? With the refiner?

[lyric zealot]

hmmm

i guess so, it's just load model, and use it in img2img

[rough oxide]

don't go back ;_;, comfy is so much less resource intensive too xD

[lyric zealot]

havent try that tho

[rough oxide]

A1111 is peak for inpainting though.

i'll give it that

[lyric zealot]

i heard comfy is really much faster than auto1111, but im too lazy to switch

[rough oxide]

crazily faster.

[lyric zealot]

okay, time to get food fr

[rough oxide]

ye

[untold glacier]

You don't understand the hundreds of hours I've put into making the best auto workflow and gen results.

[rough oxide]

it'll never be as optimiiiiiized ;_;

[untold glacier]

It'll be more useful though, and that's the most important part.

[rough oxide]

okay anyways pure sdxl/ui discussion might be getting off topic xD

[untold glacier]

I'm thinking that it's likely that most of the channels where spirited talk happens is having a discussion in the vein of SDXL, heh.

[rough oxide]

but yea if ur trying sdxl anime gens this + a little of your own modification to fit your own style

works pretty damn well

[untold glacier]

Nice

[rough oxide]

period after prompt cuz it's better padding iirc

than a comma

Been debating if i should try and add like KHFB/Auroranegative to this but

errr

[untold glacier]

Why do you say this?

[rough oxide]

i remember at least a1111 had a setting for it

so if comfy's dynamic prompting is similar

a period is more powerful than a comma

in making it keep focus with what came before the period

before continuing to the next stuff

[lyric zealot]

back with food

[untold glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/otterpaka-jujutsu-kaisen-gojo-welcome-back-gif-25694478

[rough oxide]

for anime i still think we need a finetuned model... Kind of. I've gotten some amazing results that needed no alteration but they're pretty far apart

can do chibis amazingly tho LOL

for, i guess... daily life prompts?

stuff that isn't just a subject and an artsy style/background/etc

takes a lotta work to make those work

can sort of be alleviated by some of the old tricks like saying detailed face to draw attention to the face tho i guess

[untold glacier]

Once Auto is up and running with SDXL 1.0, Adetailer will fix that issue quickly.

Auto inpainting faces has been a Godsend.

[rough oxide]

yeh adetailer is nice

finally got a prompt doing decent faces xD

[untold glacier]

Sweet

[bitter latch]

there now it's a anime calvin

ok cheshure hobbs

[gusty palm]

which isle is the holy water