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it's such a great lora 🤩
block weight lora means that you specify weights for each layer independently instead of using only one weight for the complete model
the middle layer is for composition the later output layer determine style. So if you want the lora only for style but not for composition you set the weight for the middle layer to 0
pls where can i find this lora?
wow i didnt know this, how exactly do you this? is this in a111 or comfy
Can you explain how to actually use this? I understand what it can do butnot so much how I myself can get it to do anything.
in comfyui you can use inspire-pack for that. In auto111 I don't know but it should have something like that, too
he removed his loras from civitai 😦 maybe ask him here on discord
Please translate my note using GPT or something similar.
This is everything I have at the moment.
I also have the workflow for ComfyUI available.
yo plz check your dm
Is it possible to create just the closeup of an eye using sdxl and/or pony?
Anyone tries to reproduce MJ showcase gens using SDXL?
just for fun to see what comes out
like this one for example https://www.midjourney.com/jobs/fa8de2a0-0106-4c3b-9e0b-4b175b4c3db0?index=0
that's mine
try typing closeup photo of an eye lol
uhd macro photography
i figured, but i wasn't sure if it'd be that easy or not.
I used Surreal Lora
man, pony really likes adding extra fingers.
it makes the hands look good, except for the amount of fingers
ahhh there we go. just had to fiddle with the seed.
love the style! What is the lora used for those?
I would also be interested in that lora, where can it be found?
I lora I made.
@rustic garnet since we were talking about style loras yesterday and coincidentally the IPadapter creator also talked about lora blocks for things like style transfer in their latest YouTube video, have you seen or tried out https://b-lora.github.io/B-LoRA/
Apparently you can pretty much get full style even out of a single image with a very tiny amount of training. You'd have to use the block weight node in comfy to use it right, but I wondered if you had tried this out yet
If I get some time tonight, I'm going to test it out
it's the same
b-lora was a paper about exactly that: train a lora, then separate middle layers and output layers
From what they say in the page, it actually does it even better with even less chance for concept bleeding
And also, you don't waste time training everything, only the two blocks I guess
I think middle layer + next two output layers determine composition, the layer afterwards determine style. But would have to check
you should train both, style and composition layer, even if you remove on of them afterwards
Would be hella sweet to make style loras in a minutes vs hours though
I'll read the rest of the paper on it to see if there are any differences vs the way you're describing
I think most loras are unnecessarily large anyways
Yeah I finally got dora training down pat in koyha. With even an 8dim network, it works great and the files are tiny
Like megabytes
correction, 100mb, but i cant remember if this one was 8 or 16 dim
dora should be same size as lora
it is, but you can use faaaaar lower dim with doras to get equal or better quality vs a regular lora. like an 8 dim dora can be better than even 64 dim lora, so the files can be much smaller
Is it available for download somewhere?
it feels like older bing images wehre more realistic (bing)
a girl
I really liked mobius, but also I've trying this model, also uses clip skip 3 and according to description it is specially trained for using DPM++ 3M SDE. https://civitai.com/models/448483/mr-xotox-nasse-waende-sdxl
This is a one pass generation?
Wow, there is a great amount of details and very coherent as well
i don't think there's really any way to train for a certain sampler or scheduler
Yes I have no idea about, I took it with with a grain of salt. Sometimes it is good to be biased and believe in a model 
only took an ungodly amount of inpainting attemps, hah.
i bet
prompt: a tornado of library books, weird supernatural ghosts flying around sliming the library
How do you run Mobius in ComfyUI? 🙂
I used in Automatic but I also used Mobius in Comfy, I just reproduced the recommend settings there. It generated different but good IRC
Used a node to use clip skip
I need a PNG with metadata or a json?
I don't have a clue how to reproduce the recommended settings otherwise?
I was doing some ipadapter style transfer with some comic book/ink drawing images and I started getting this style image instead for some reason. It doesn't look much like the input to the ipadapter but it's an interesting style anyway
That is an outstandingly good model, I thought he had taken it down as the link I had was dead, thanks for sharing.
I
embeded is the workflow as I understand it to reproduce the settings
you only have to change the model
Isn't it loaded just like any orther model?
Thank you, I'll give it a try
Insane man. 🔥👏
Can you get sharp results with mobius or you use another model for second pass? @meager canopy
The ones above used the same Mobius model for Ultimate SD Upscale then face and hand detailer. This is RAW Mobius, using the recommended settings
This is with the other refinements
50 steps are too many. I find 30 are plenty.
Same prompt with Mobius...
...and Xotox
Ah, when i tested it, I noticed that the upscale and img2img results were producing some noisy and unusual textures, particularly on the hair compared to the usual model I use. I'll give it another attempt
That's really good 😍
I gave it a shot, and it is a really really good model. Very sharp images for realistic
This is how it looks using my own model. The raw output from mine is much cleaner
This is raw output
Upscaled
wow, it looks realllly nice 😍 . Sharp and detailed. Fingers, skin texture and hairs 👌. I didn't know you had models on civit. I'll definitly give it a try
guys, what do you think about Align Your Steps (AYS) at 10 steps vs hyper lora, or even both? I did try to combine hyper with AYS, but don't know if it worth it as I can't really see noticeable improvements while loosing ability to go lower 10 steps
I use hyper 8 step Lora with 12 steps, so ays works well with that
create a girl with red hair and blue eyes
Here is the image you requested
maybe will stick with AYS too...
Managed to heavily speed up SDXL from 20s on rtx3060.
Hyper + 10step + TensorRT + AYS + cfg 1.5 = 6 seconds
Hyper + 8step + TensorRT + cfg 1 = 3.3 seconds
TensorRT is really gamechanger if you don't need loras
Comfyui does not support tensorrt loras but you can bake into model while conversion, as I did with hyper lora
Interesting. Didn't realize it would work with both. I tried installing tensorrt and it always fails to import. I'll have to try it on a more clean machine.
What's weird is I had it working fine the other day, but then today I had to completely reinstall comfyui(broke it working with something else) and now tensorrt won't work for me
I guess I probably did some package stuff with cuda for a different plugin in the past and that it let it work, but I don't remember what it was lol
It's probably some pytorch+cuda thing I need to rerun where you manually pick the version off the pytorch site
Like pytorch2.3.1+cuda 11.8 or 12.1. I'll test it out in a bit to see
Pix-Art Sigma with sdxl refiner. ComfyUI Workflow in CivitAI
Not Mobius ... 🙂
I double-click ComfyUI desktop - but no Mobius features appear ... ?!
Mobius is in my ComfyUI Custom Nodes folder - but does not appear in the Nodes Menu ... ?
Why do you need nodes? It's just a model.
OK, so where do I initiate it?
As I say, I cannot decide which nodes/tensors/loras etc to use?
The same as every other SD model 🤷🏻♂️
So I put the Mobius folder into the checkpoints folder?
Yes
folder?
It's a model
Yes I have a folder see the contents ...
Forget that, you only need the model from Civitai
You have them both n that folder, just rename them and delete the rest
yes
Rename them to what? 🙂 Sorry for all the questions
"Mobius", or "Mobius-fp16" 🤣
Whatever you want to keep and use, then move it to models/checkpoints folder
So the Civitai checkpoint is this Mobius safetensor I already have?
Hurrah! Boy its confusing as an artist "with some tech savvy" some™
I think you were just trying to overcomplicate it 🙂
Mobius - OK, nice, no LoRAs
Mobius+2xLoRAs = Ethereal Grace and Poetic Style (two of Andreac's LoRAs)
Ouch - it has some acute visual acuity alright!
Is there any open source image generation models other than sdxl 1.0 and pixart
Thank you for the prompt!
Very rich colours and clear lines ... me likey Mobius 😄
It's getting on for MJ standard imho ... is Mobius
Pixart sigma + sdxl refiner
Mobius
Anyone here using Hunyuan dit if so can you please share some examples
@safe stump So hunyuan like the other ones needs an sdxl refinement stage in comfy, so these are all hunyuan with refinement.
Mobius doesn't really work with Face Detailer - the faces seem to come off worse than when left alone!
I'm working on getting lumina reinstalled, but i've been stuck building the flash attention for like an hour lol (it takes a long time even with ninja). i want to try out the new finetune of it they dropped yesterday
I'm more scared of his brother in fire flying in the background 😄
So is Mobious the new hot checkpoint?
really depends. it's good as a native sdxl model. Most of my stuff is rendered with pixart/hunyuan/ella etc and i need a good sdxl model to refine that. I'm mainly using zavychroma07 at this point for that. I found mobius is rather soft and too stylized for it whereas zavy gives sharp results.
zavychroma on left, mobius
on right
mobius is kind of a mess for refining/upscaling model.
I'm using mobius to generate base genation since a couple of days. It's really creative. I have a style lists node and it's reacting better to it than any other model
Yes... I gave up. It's seem to even make the image worst in certain spot 😦
this is just straight mobius, no sd3 and then upscale. even direct it's kind of a mess. it's a cool picture, but it's "too" stylized... much like midjourney does to cover for it's inabilities.
The composition is still good. when passed to another model, it will be washed out anyway, only keeping the composition just like you do with ella
But most of your images has that MJ "styling" 🤔
totally, but i'm not refining sdxl with sdxl. 🙂
Why not?
the composition from the other new T5 based models are better than mobius alone. and way more prompt following.
for me, an sdxl model is useful as a refiner or not at all at this point.
mobius/realvis/zavychroma
i'll try upscaling mobius more. maybe it only shines after a few stages of it.
Mmmm, I have to say mobius is crazy too. You can give him long crazy prompt, and he'll come up with extremely wild and surprising results.
it's really more about the limitations of sdxl. I have high hops for him with sd3.
hunyuan
hunyuan and pixart have really cool composition
Do you like it so far?
yeah hunyuan is awesome
that said, sd3 is awesome too though. if sd3 weren't coming out in 2 days, I'd say you should try it out.
sd3 makes a really good version of this prompt as well.
what's the prompt? I'll give it a try with mobius/mhxlAventisHorizon
A post-apocalyptic video game art style standoff where survivors and mutated beasts are taking place against the backdrop of a ruined cityscape with crumbling skyscrapers. In front there's a gigantic mutant with multiple arms roaring in rage. High resolution, sharp focus, studio photo, intricate details, high quality, game cover
very true. If sd3 is the last model they release, these types of models could remains highly valuable in a close futur
this is sd3 refined with zavy. it's awesome
I may not use anything other than sd3 after it releases... it's got really good composition and I can always just refine it like I'm doing with these other ones if need be.
what is mhxlAventisHorizon ?
you are used too with the api version. You think the smaller version will still kick other model's ass?
a model i really enjoy on civit. Give it a try man
hah it really whips the llama's ass... that old winamp phrase, but now it's "it really whips the llama3's ass"
I searched for that phrase but didn't find it. what's the name I should search for on civit?
holy shit, i can't wait to push the button to download the weight
whoa
holy crap
a real serious pixart sigma checkpoint.
😱
yeah this could be serious...
pixart is seriously good... better than the others, just needs training. this may actually make it a real thing now.
That's so true
In addition with his prompt adherence and composition, it art capabilities are totally insane (drawing, painting, etc...)
pixart / new pixelwave checkpoint.
he may need to put it back in the oven for longer.
😦
there is a tiny difference with the demo images 😄
We only see the quality of the image when we try it ourself haha
he has a workflow that i'm trying now. it's rather different than what I'm using for pixart stage
I'm curious. I'll take a look
so this is with what?
so i tweaked his settings. he has a cfg of 4, but it looks like garbage with his settings at 4. 7.5 is optimal.
that's still refined, but obviously looks really good. I'll compare against native pixart.
hard to see when it's refined.
it still looks like butt unrefined. hardly something you could use without refinement.
not sure what the point is if i still have to refine it.
that's raw
Yeah, it veed some more work obviously.
refined with mrXONOTOXNaSSEWAENDE_v20. it's better
hahah it's totally out of it's comfort zone 😄
zavy chroma / aventhorizon
avent might be better with this one... it's more choice of content vs. quality. they're both good.
aventhorizon is extremely good for 3d render, and that kind of stuff, so we can see it tend more on the side
That's the key 🙂
zavychroma / aventhorizon.
avent on this one too... looks more like will smith plus it put those evil little creatures which is a big plus
and it's ultra sharp too..
Same for me. I saw those creature dancing and 😍 🤣
that's a great image by the way. Sick compo 👌
In grotesque, hyper-realistic style with intense texture detail and unsettling close-ups, Will Smith stands amidst a swirling vortex of viscous, gelatinous spaghetti tendrils that writhe around his body like snakes, hundreds of grasping, slimy-fleshed children clinging to his arms, legs, and torso as if he were some sort of twisted, otherworldly host, their eyes glowing with an unearthly green light, while god rays pierce the dark, smoggy sky above, casting an eerie glow on the scene, smoke and steam wafting from Will's mouth and nostrils like a noxious cloud, his own eyes blazing with an unsettling, pulsing yellow light that seems to sear itself into the viewer's retina.
it's a great prompt. ellla makes some seriously insanely evil versions of it.
this is probably the tamest version. the rest i can't post
sick ❤️ we are far from the famous first spaghetti version of will smith
from pixart 512 res refined.
so far i'm very unimpressed with pixelwave for pixat. native pixart is better at composition
same seed on pixelwave version.
the native pixart version is so much more interesting.
see this is the problem.
these new models are capable of so much more. if people sit there and train sd3 on boring portraits again, it's going to actually make it worse than base model.
Totally
I don't enjoy portrait so much, so I'm freaking tired of seing the same type of models and image over and over .... Hopefully, some will train these model to keep their originality
I don't mind getting these sharp images, but try to keep these great brush stroke so unique that only pixart can generate (for now :-P)
#1237459938901491852 a fat man 40 years drinking beer funny picture
😻 That's really sharp
that is fucking gorgeous.
the workflow should be in that picture.
That' different then ella. I think Sdxl can sneak more content as the base image. So the second pass model will define which style direction to take. I usually prompt a lot for the second pass to enhance details, add stuff
it saves as a .webp, so i dont think the workflow will be there
click it and then click open in a browser, that should be the native png
with workflow
this is the girl with the skull: Gothic cyberpunk woman robot, holding the skull with both hands,face the skull, profile , realistic illustration, sad and dark mood, red japan circle in background
That's the prompt from the other day?
oh, i had my discord window too small, hah
the samurai butterfly one is : close-up of a a Chinese samurai sitting meditating eyes closed on his kimono. Amidst a dreamlike landscape of Organic Symmetry, clad in armor made of iridescent, butterfly-wing tiles and branches tangled with glowing, ethereal silk threads that weave a symbolic tapestry of balance and unity shimmering mist of Cultural Fusion infuses the air, blending the essence of ancient traditions with the serenity of the natural world.
yeah it's not a new prompt.
oh dear, i see how this is going to be a complex venture...
It was so similar to the image the other day 😄
i had to install a few custom nodes i was missing.
I did it with my workflow and you tried it with ella
I think I might have to stick with my simpler workflows 😅
yes try it you will see improvement
man, I've gotta say, I've just put it through tons of prompts. it's right there with pixart and ella on most of it.
kind of in disbelief right now
Also, I've been using the ella you provided a while ago, and it's a fresh air to use a sdxl as base model. It outputs different type of image
yeah definitely... although this is crazy good, with the 2. where mobius outputs kind of a mess, avent cleans it up based on the good composition from mobius.
i can't seem to stump this thing
35mm photo of a disney princess setting a car on fire with a torch. found footage.
what do you mean?
it's insanely prompt following.
ok so i can stump it on multi-subject. happy boy next to a sad girl... but aside from that, it's getting everything
i know man. I realized that when I was adding styles using this node with mobius. Even with very long prompt, it get the style like a chief. With other models, even when small prompt it sometime don't get the style
here is multiple image with the same prompt, i only switched styles
definitely. 99% of the time you say "oil painting of..." and it's not actually doing that.
wow
exacly
that's freaking crazy how good it is
the style is appended at the end of the prompt, and it still get it right
In a darkroom-lit, high-contrast, with a mix of warm and cool tones, a bespectacled man sits amidst a sprawling mess of glowing computer screens, wires, and keyboards, his face illuminated only by the soft blue glow of a few screens, as he frantically attempts to corral his army of tiny cat minions, each donning miniature spectacles and typing away on their own miniature laptops, surrounded by scattered papers, coffee cups, and discarded pizza boxes, with a haze of cigarette smoke wafting through the air, casting an eerie mist around the chaos, while in the background, rows of humming servers hum their gentle tune, and the distant glow of city lights casts a faint orange hue through the grimy windows.
so it has its limits.. but this is more of a mult-subject thing.
there's no army of cats, but if you do that in pixart or ella, it gets the cats.
so his stuff but trained on sd3, would be something really special.
Does it gets it if you reprompt or it's just too much?
that said it's nailing these every time. awesome concepts it gets all the time.
as long as it's not 2 different subjects.
i'd say this is peak sdxl.
Hahha it's pushing the limit.
mobius / hunyuan / pixart
so it's really great, but multi-subject beats all a lot of the time.
Trump wearing greek god armor with his hands in the air while donuts are flooding from a chute in the ceiling. Adoring crowds are so happy about the donuts. god rays, faces in shock,
hah although no armor in the so called multi-subject ones. oh well.
you probably have to play a bit more with prompt weight with sdxl and you'll get there
Did you add "googly eyes" to the prompt?
changed the prompt as well: Trump wearing greek god armor with his hands in the air while (donuts are falling from the ceiling:1.15). Adoring crowds are so happy about the donuts. god rays, faces in shock,
Surrealism; surreal black-and-white image featuring a person with their back to the camera, their dark skin dotted with numerous googly eyes of various sizes, contrasted by white patches, and holding a white cup also adorned with googly eyes and a straw, set against a stark white background under soft, diffused lighting, and a table covered in scattered googly eyes.
I just know you're gonna have fun with that one. 🙂
Finally managed to get hunyuan up and running. It passed my "red ball on top of a blue cube on top of a green table" test on the first try
i tried my other prompts but with "googly eyes" for fun
with your prompt... seriously adding perturbed node does insane things with regular sdxl. i stopped using it because it doesn't work with sdxl... but dropping hyper, it does so much for image quality
but no crowds.
hah ok fine next seed, crowds.
God that was a conda nightmare, but I got it running with diffusers
What do you mean for hyper?
it works flawlessly with zavychroma7, but doesn't work at all with mobius or this adventhorizon. the output is just blurry. for whatever reason, zavychroma keeps its sharpness with it.
but then you went ahead and showed me better checkpoints, so i'm back to half speed for the increase in quality.
ohhh gotcha. You don't lose quality? I haven't experiment with it
with just that one checkpoint.. so it's finicky.
i assume it uses a reduced set of blocks in the unet to do its thing, so if your model isn't heavy on that block, it's going to come out bad.
ok. Ill try it with chroma. THanks
The same apply with deepshrink. With some model, it's an absolute killer and can keep the composition together. But with some, it's an absolute mess
definitely.
Do you use hyper with upscaling?
yep
damn, it must be brutal if it works with zavychroma
upressed image in 7 seconds
so 1700x1200 res image in 7 seconds.
and the output is sharp
how about using "Trypophobia"
they also have it for sd 1.5. so my ella workflow goes through tons of upscaling stages super quick.
Here if you want to add the styles. The default had an hundreds, but someone in here shared a google link with a list of couple hundreds of styles. I added 100 more. Drop that in this folder: custom_nodes\ComfyUI-Easy-Use\styles\
oh sweeeeet thanks man 🙌
i put that in and got his.
Does anyone know the best way to make D&D Battlemaps using SDXL?
A group of adventurers huddled around a large wooden table lit by flickering candles surrounded by dusty tomes and scattered dice, their faces illuminated by the soft glow as they gazed down upon a sprawling, intricately drawn battlemap sprawled across its surface.
and drop that in custom_nodes\ComfyUI-Easy-Use\styles\samples
They were generated using pixart 1024 basemodel
very cool, thanks. that demo you had before was really neat.
what style was this one?
jpeg says fluid
Nice image! But i am looking for like an top-down map to use in an encounter for my campaign. Is there any model that can do that?
that's the 3D___Abstract_And_Fluid_Dynamics
that i don't know.
have you looked on civitai.com ?
You added a guider 😮 What is it doing?
yes, but all of them are on sd1.5 and look kind of weird
the benefit of the guider is that it perfectly sets up the CFG which is rather crucial for hyper to work best.
what is mobius?
Big News! We're so excited to unveil Corcel Research Labs' two new image models: Open Vision & Mobius! ✨
Both fully open sourced under the apache-2.0 licence!
Check them out here:
https://t.co/xbcmWLCacy
https://t.co/wo9x4ocCiV
💖Open Vision: Finetuned from S19's MJ
damn it's really fast. a lot faster than my setup
mobius is a new sdxl model that has really amazing prompt adherence and style/concept knowledge. but it can be a bit messy looking sometimes, so KevenG just got me going with a aventishorizon sdxl model refiner which puts out incredible quality in the end with the composition of mobius.
yeah, it breaks my heart that it doesn't work with mobius or aventis. it literally does, but the quality is garbage.
😦 Did you try with the clip skip -3?
I don't think so.
no
i don't have that for my current workflow either...
do i need it?
i'm getting killer outputs without it.
it's recommended for it yes. You'll get better result with genaration
i'm not sure it will helps haha 😄
so the above one was without it, this is with -3
i assume you mean like this
@misty hull ok that explains why you were getting the crowds and I wasn't i guess. 🙂
jeez... crowds every time now whereas almost never before.
that's crazy 😱
probably. I'm not sure what's it's doing under the hood, but you'll get some bad composition, like too zoomed close-up without it.
A grotesque Trump mask made from human skulls and twisted metal hangs upside down from a rusty chain suspended above a trash-strewn alleyway illuminated by flickering fluorescent lights casting eerie shadows on crumbling brick walls.
never let anyone say that llama v3 is censored.
it just came up with that.
😅 . That's creapy
caricature
And the funny thing, i went into the hirefix from the caricature, but forgot that I had an image loaded instead of the base image. So it turned out...
haha that's awesome
that was the image haha
mid level boss
it's different but is one better than the other?
A cartoonish orc in a bright yellow hazmat suit holding a gigantic rubber ducky while standing amidst a backdrop of mushroom clouds and nuclear fallout signs amidst a desert landscape under warm golden light.
the sd3 is way more prompt following
and mobius made the mushroom clouds into literal mushrooms
that said, mobius makes awesome orcs
they both did
FINE. 🙂
less so.
better duck.
although I do like the NUCLAR.. that's fitting for what an orc would have on the name
Both are crazy. These giant mush on the right image look so nice. Nuclear mushroom 🍄 😋
Devil leprechaun
Here is my Mobius+SDXLRefiner+FaceDetailer json
Mobius+SDXLRefiner+FaceDetailer
ComfyUI+Mobius - Kardashian and cookies!
Hello everyone, can you suggest me a good model for open pose ?
thibaud_xl has been good to me
it's for sdxl
A young Chinese male bodybuilder with ultra short hair, wearing only a tight pair of shorts, well-developed chest and thigh muscles, tight calf muscles, bare feet, solid soles, walking upright on stage with steady steps. Real photos show full body photos of the feet.
Here is the image you requested
@gloomy lark Was it you who thinks you can't use Mobius with hyper?
These are with hyper, 8 steps for Euler A Trailing, and TCD, 4 asteps for DPM++ SDE Trailing (in Draw Things, I think it's called sgn or something in comfyui)
First two TCD, second row DPM++ SDE Trailing (hyper 8 at 75% strength), last one os Euler A Trailing
Borrowed the prompt from @meager canopy
Very cool, I can't look at it now, but mind dropping your json on here so I can try it later?
I'm not using comfyui, it's draw things @gloomy lark
What is drawthings?
mac app, you can use it on mac book, iphone, ipad, imac
local app
I'm not getting sharp image like these ones. Is it str8 out of the model or its refined ?
👍. Really impressive. Does it generally output images as sharp as that?
Depending on the image you need to tweak the settings
There are alot of 'buttons' you can tweak
Oki. I'm wondering if it's just because these image are in the training data
Can you give a shot at this prompt when you'll have a sec?
A post-apocalyptic video game art style standoff where survivors and mutated beasts are taking place against the backdrop of a ruined cityscape with crumbling skyscrapers. In front there's a gigantic mutant with multiple arms roaring in rage. High resolution, sharp focus, studio photo, intricate details, high quality, game cover
Interesting. That's what @gloomy lark got from comfy with the same prompt
#✨|sdxl message
Looks like he's not using hyper
Not really, results differ a lot depending on samplers
And methods like the fast loras
Eeven within one and the same sampler like TCD you can get various results just by changing the strategic stocastic sampling percentage
And then there is the sharpness and clip skip
Also the prompt
Gotcha. 👍 need more testing 😫
Yeah needs a lot of testing, also cfg
Do Yyou know if we can tweak that in comfy?
I haven't used it for months now, so I think you should ask that the regular users
Anything is tweakable in comfy if you're brave enough to do some python scripting lol
Defjnitly. Mobius don't react like other models with cfg
😁🤣
sometimes i luck out and actually do something that works, other times, not so lucky lol...
I have several models which can do that prompt with ease 🙂
This Mobius is doing a lot of left-arm/right hand - right leg/left foot!
And it is not particularly good linking the Mobius Model to Face Detailer ... do it via an SDXL intermediary setup.
i tried mobius out for a couple days, and while it can make some decent stuff, it's kinda meh. realvis4 stomps it most of the time
and i don't even make people 99% of the time
My point was that it can do hyper
Must try realVis4 ...
https://civitai.com/models/139562?modelVersionId=344487 for the non-lightning model
the thing is that hyper is a lora and maps to the base model. these fine tunes have stuff added in them usually, so the lora probably won't work well with a lot of them
i remember trying it with some models and it was hit and miss
usually works well enough though
I'm using hyper for all models, it works well with TCD
yeah tcd works great for it, but so does AYS
agree
like if you're using the 12 step hyper lora
honestly, if a model doesn't work well with other loras this is always a good indication that the model is rather bad
(yes, this includes pony xD)
why? it just means the weights are different and that the lora isn't mapping to all the weights it expects. like you can't use regular loras for pg2.5, yet the model is great for a lot of things
you can train pg2.5 loras though
but then they cant be used for sdxl models
the sdxl base model was trained on billions of images
some custom models overfit so heavily that they destroy the base weights and then yes, their shiny new custom model excels at everything close to the few training images they provided but forgot everything else
yeah but almost all custom models are just merges with the base model or other fine-tunes. only a few are actually trained from the ground up
personally, i hate overtrained models since they are everywhere and typically only good for portraits of waifus, but you'd be surprised how well some of them can still do completely unrelated stuff
I refer to the models that are fine-tuned. If a model is trained from scratch this is of course something different.
but not many have the resources for doing so
and quite often these models from scratch are trained on much less data with higher quality (usually midjourney or dalle images...)
they look great, but are also less versatile as consequence
well pony is one of them from what i hear and well you see how commonly used and praised it is
are you sure pony is trained from scratch? I think it's a finetune
you don't need to send me those, i have realvis for ages and a lot of other models
not pony models btw
and yes it is praised, although its a horrible model in my opinion. But either people don't care how bad a model is as long as you can make porn with it, or maybe I just have a very different subjective opinion in this regard than other people here
yes, it is from scratch from what i've heard. the guys has a small a100 farm like 4-6 of them and spends months training them
hear hear
just showing how poorly hyper does with some models
there is even a pony-turbo merge - that wouldn't be possible if it is trained from scratch
oh im sure he has some merges, i just know he has his own training set
hyper works well with my realvisxl
idk, never used it, but he was on here a week or so ago complaining about SD3's license
"Pony Diffusion V6 is a versatile SDXL finetune " <-- this is even written in the description
yes, he might have a big training set, but it's still a finetune. he did not train the model from scratch
yeah i don't know the exact specifics, i know he has millions of images used and blah blah blah
all i know is that it's its own thing and normal stuff doesn't usually work with it. no clue what the merge ratio is vs the base model and all the technical stuff
if you finetune your model in a similar way as the base model, things don't break that fast
many people do weird stuff, though. Like juggernaut was trained with pyramid noise making it highly incompatible with other loras
pony uses a totally different captioning scheme and who knows what else
yeah that's the big difference: his captioning. and like i said, who knows what else he does to the base model. maybe he squishes it down in some kind of 90:10 merge or something
i remember reading somewhere professional that technically, you only need around a 1000 "perfectly" curated and captioned images of humans, to have almost perfect anatomy and whatnot. so who knows what you can do with millions of images of even mediocre captioning and quality
i didn't know that... interesting
https://wandb.ai/johnowhitaker/multires_noise/reports/Multi-Resolution-Noise-for-Diffusion-Model-Training--VmlldzozNjYyOTU2 haven't read much on the effects of different types of noise in training, this is about it... but it certainly piqued my interest
I'm not a big fan of all these noise models :/
why's that
or any particular ones
fine-tuning the model on a new noise model is always harmful and, in my opinion, unnecessary.
like offset noise was introduced to solve the zero-timestep problem and allow models to generate dark images
gotcha, your concern is more that the base and the finetune were with different noise models?
but instead of messing up training you could have just add a little slider in auto111/comfy that determines the brightness of the image, allowing the user to make dark images without using offset noise models
yes
yeah, that's what i've been doing
to get dark images, instead of a straight offset to the initial latent, i've been offsetting on a decaying schedule after each step within the sampling loop
better/more reliable results
just been sticking with the default offset for dora training
it seems like doing anything significantly differently than base was trained is just not a great idea
yes, unfortunately sdxl was already trained with offset, so you have to use it, too
yeah
🌟 🎸 Well it's been a bit of time, but we have a new Top 10 SDXL model - Art Universe 3 - Excelled in photorealism but strong adherence as well. Worth checking out - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IYJw4Iv9M_vX507MPbdX4thhVYxOr6-IThbaRjdpVgM/edit?usp=sharing 🤩 🥂
New system available ♥ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mTT49TDxIE
New system for audioreactively generative geometries, intervened with various SD configs.
You can access this new TD patch and SD configs (3), plus many more systems, experiments, and tutorials, through: https://linktr.ee/uisato
#touchdesigner #stablediffusion #generativeart
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not to be crass but do they have down syndrome
Im happy to announce, Chromosome+ , the first down syndrome lora, enjoy! :) Check out SD1.5 version here!: https://civitai.com/models/485858?modelV...
LOL
It's nice to see a community that is inclusive of the more challenged in our society!
Mobius+SDXL
How is sdxl different from using sd 1.5 and upscaling it? Doesnt that acomplish nearly the same thing.
SD 1.5: Includes basic capabilities for text-to-image generation, but might lack some of the advanced features found in later models.
SDXL: May include additional features such as better handling of complex prompts, improved coherence in generated images, and advanced control over image attributes (e.g., style, lighting, and composition). SDXL represents an evolution in Stable Diffusion technology, offering enhanced capabilities, better performance, and higher-quality outputs compared to SD 1.5.
Hi, I'm looking for a SUPIR workflow that might work with my 12 GB GPU. I'm trying some but still no luck}
I have tried several. It will kill your GPU. I have 12GB too... There are other ways. 'Ultimate Upscale'.' Mara Scott'. 'Pixel KSample Upscaler Provider'
oh, bummers
@lusty wolfthat does sound a bit more interesting if its not just having higher resolution by default and includes other things. which sort of makes it a new model.
This what I'm doing here, and just because I hate wating I set it low. I think the quality is good on the eye..
Made guide to my X profile how to create the Viral soft anime style
https://x.com/transparen96143/status/1800235665331798061?s=61
It literally is a different model. SDXL is not just "SD 1.5 but bigger".
ill get to test it in 1 to 2 days
@undone crestOhhh. twitter is no more? Just x now. BTW that is too soft for muh eyes.
Twitter is no more? Thank you for reply! Maybe bit too soft, did my best as got requested from many how it was done :))))
the quality difference between SDXL and SD 1.5 is huge. It's not like SD 1.5 and SD 2.1,
dig my crappy little ui for hunyuan-diffusers-distilled... (doesn't seem to be supported in comfy's extra models node yet, since they expect pth files and not safetensors? idk, every time i tried with this version, it seemed to spit a bunch of errors). i still need to add a couple things to it, but at least it's getting there lol
Ned a ds slider lora xD
will add workflows later
got some more code cleanup to do but it's in much better shape now
anyone here use supir?
Does this look right because it is only a 2x upscale and takes 5-10m on my 4090.
yeah that's not right, is that the stage it's frozen at?
yeah, this is a wf I downloaded and man is this node so slow
about 1 step every 10-20 seconds
sometimes half a min
yeah
and that's with 40 steps
reason I am wondering what setting is doing this in that node?
the wf came from here - https://comfyworkflows.com/workflows/b563ba19-8639-4c83-8f74-ac7c9cf96978
everything else, but it, in the WF is fast
I wish, as I just looked and it is a weird rez of 2250x2250.
i think that increases the number of tiles by something like 2.25x total
4 to 9 i think?
still doesn't account for THAT much time
weird resoluton
very
XD
It was WAY EASIER 3 years ago, AND IT WAS FREE!!
I think it was much easier to generate beautiful images when you could do the promise for FREE, the options were much better before the video option, now I cannot make anything I want to
beautiful
tu as payé stablediffusion pour ca?
nope
je vais ou pour ne pas me faire arnaquer?
i don'nt speak french lol
I mean, where you wrigt the prompt?
I tried even 1.0
alright, but I have never managed to get supir right
Best I've gotten is subtle sharpening on edges with subtle softening between them
not sure why all the videos show SUPER results then I use their wf (for the ones that offered them) and rubbish results?
Mobius+SDXL
restore cfg 10?
Anything up to 20
You do need to play around with the settings depending on what image you're using
The model you use also makes a difference
5376x6769 (no SUPIR)
That's sick 🔥
its about time someone painted something decent
pics or it didnt happen
There're literally pics all over the discord 😄
1ère fois que je vois un fr ici
Two things models don't like. Cards and poker chips 😰
For non sd3 that's really good
Yeah, I think I got lucky with the seeds. It took only 3 or 4 tines to get something decent 🤪
Did you saw zavychromaV8 released yesterday?
I did, just didn't get a chance to try it yet. You spoiled me with that aventiswhatever from the other day. Now I'm using that. 🙂
Thats kind of funny, I switched to zavy since I tried your upscale wf 🤣🤣
Hah ask me next week and I'll probably say something else. Having too many models is a good problem to have. 🙂
Is that what you used for the poker image? That is great!
Was she playing against the "Cheating twins"?
How do you setup/download Ultra for ComfyUI?
You sadly can't. I used the paid API for this
but you can use the Stability AI API with the official ComfyUI nodes: https://github.com/Stability-AI/ComfyUI-SAI_API
I used mobius to create the composition then mrXOTOXnasseWAENDE_v20 for double deepshrink to get details. Here is the base image genarated
Prompt:A beautiful menacing girl materializes within a bar, her presence distorting the air, as she summons a swirling storm of razor-sharp playing cards that orbit her like a deadly asteroid belt.
If I can join, Yes!!! 😄
This batch was particulary good starting point
1h left to midnight (CEST) 
I'm not sure if they are going to release it perfectly at 0:00
me neither - it was just sarcasm 😉
I hope it will be something around 10:00 tomorrow. I took personal leave at work to try it 🤡
wow really cool stuff. i guess I'll have to go see about that xotox checkpoint now too.
I get you haha. I have to stop myself checking new model on civit ai since i also want to generate images and not only testing model 😄.
1 minute left until midnight (GMT+1)
(images of SDXL Turbo custom model)
scale model toy scene
(using LORA + downscaling then upscaling)
making weird images on purpose
i make weird images by accident
Many people believe SDXL Turbo is always inferior to SDXL models. I disagree. All these images are made with SDXL Turbo (UltraSpice) model.
Of course I am sharing specific images, not every image I made. It can't do everything this well.
Who knows how to train an xl lora model that is very reminiscent of film and television characters, and what parameters are needed? I found that 1.5 version training has better restoration degree
/Sea, sea level, sky, freighter,
I tried your safetensor - got this error
This is pretty neat actually. if there was trains in mad max.
i mena the basic concept is... the deatils ugh
Not good on a windy day though 😄
it's a dora, so you use it in the lora node
recomend using with base sdxl 1.0
last three were by scheduling the offset of the fractal noise
using the tan scheduler node
lol
last few hours, before the return of sdxl glory via ppl angry as f there's no contronets or finetunes
As a rule, do DoRAs go slowly?
inference is the same speed as lora, takes more vram
i usually save any lora/dora i use a lot as a checkpoint cuz it makes all of them faster
all you have to do is connect a save checkpoint node to the lora node
oh that's the text encoder only fyi
if they say "TE" in the file, it's just the clip/text encoder
the others are unet/model only
can't train both at full precision with 24gb vram, have to do em separately
So how do I set it all up to work?
load one of these WFs
and it'll all be there
https://github.com/ClownsharkBatwing/RES4LYF nodes are here
Oh, you tidied up! 🤣
Still so many unconnected nodes though 🤷🏻♂️
they're there for convenient experimenting lol
Lovin' the "shiny immediacy" of the csbw DoRA!!!
the text boxes in the default workflow in these images is full of triggers
it's actually the entirety of the captions i trained on in the boxes that start by talking about oil paintings
I borrowed KevenG's prompt = A beautiful menacing girl materializes within a bar, her presence distorting the air, as she summons a swirling storm of razor-sharp playing cards that orbit her like a deadly asteroid belt
add stuff about the color, style of the image (oil painting, surreal photo, graphic illustration, pop art, etc), mood (mysterious, creepy, electric, etc)
and you'll get crazy style
Agreed, I have one or two LoRAs stacked in there
Poetic Style and Ethereal Grace (by Andreac)
ahh yeah good ones
oil painting, thick colorful paint, a surreal low-light photograph of a beautiful menacing girl materializes within a bar, her presence distorting the air, as she summons a swirling storm of razor-sharp playing cards that orbit her like a deadly asteroid belt
I'm trembling 😄
Don't see no 'deadly asteroid belt' though?!
hah
it's trained on 691 of my outputs
each with at least 2 separate captions, most with 4 plus, rotating through them with each epoch
This one has a "third hand"; but I think it's the Casino Owner "making sure the house wins!!!"
So each of those many files will give a separate and different look?
that's the training set
... I'm learning
the goal was to get them to blend and it's actually kinda worked out
So which of the files is a fully-fledged DoRA?
👋 .
Is that SD1.5 walking off into the sunset?
He is not going anywhere. You can get some interesting results still if you refine a generation with SD 1.5 the skin and face details are still better than SDXL
Let me doubt about this, lol
Try it
Using ClownShark's DoRA inside SWARM
An Apple
100% Pixart_Sigma
Here is the image you requested.
Crazy people 😂
anyone know of a way to export a sequence of images where vram gets cleared after each image export? im trying to animatediff at a higher resolution but batch rendering a bunch of large images crushes my 4090 card's max vram. I only get images to about 512 x 760 but no bigger.
y'all does pony diffusion have a discord server?
