#✨|sdxl

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upbeat summit
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Most of the time when I want to work on a prompt build I just go through all the pop cultural experiences I had in my life - art, film, music, video games. Or when I want to capture a mood I think of places I've been.

Lighting is for me one of the most important aspects when creating visual media. I mean if you look at a game like Octopath Traveler. Oldskool pixel graphics combined with real time lighting, It's really pretty.

I also use technical terms that describe a certain camera technology, rendering engine or art style. I do research on some topics to know about it - like how a certain look was achieved.

Since the training data includes vast amount of data from the web, it knows many of those terms.

And all the other times I'm just looking at what you guys are doing and getting inspired by your work.

urban fjord
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I must say I'm really impressed with how well SDXL does inpainting out of the box.
I can't figure out how to continue from the original image instead of colouring it grey as I'm unfamiliar with inpainting in Comfy but despite a bit of inconsistency with seeds it works a lot better than 1.5.

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(Click on the images as discord is cropping weirdly)

visual glade
uneven dove
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lmfao @ that cropping

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"great inpainting", my first thought

winter raptor
uneven dove
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"they're the same picture" TrollPolite

upbeat summit
sudden cliff
fresh path
fresh path
shy kelp
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bro what? lower resolution noise? this example is not even upscaling, it's just a clear proof that the refiner ONLY works on 100% leftover noise from the base model and does not work on added Gaussian noise from img2img generation. https://imgur.com/a/5VefX0M

sudden cliff
fresh path
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bro got a quantum pc or something?

eternal fog
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What we arguing about now?

sudden cliff
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No it just does denoise added noise, I do wonder if there is a subtle difference but it looks like something is wrong with his pipeline

high skiff
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Who's, mine?

sudden cliff
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Whatever beric is using

shy kelp
# sudden cliff That's not how it works on my machine, so 🤷‍♂️

it isnt?

try this. generate an image with lets say 20 sampler steps 100% base model. Then do a simple img2img with the refiner model at 35% denoise.

Generate another image where the the first 0-13 steps is base model and the last 13-20 steps is refiner (basically same amount of noise as 35% afaik)

Compare the two results.

high skiff
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Not sure if it's mine or not

sudden cliff
upbeat summit
shy kelp
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anyways i guess the copium in here is too high. ive yet to see a single result of hires fix working as well as SD1.5 despite all your complete denial of it not working well at your particular settings.

urban fjord
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It seems to mess up the background a bit but is perfectly capable of decent changes I don't think I would have managed without controlnet in 1.5. The user interface isn't the best to play too much around with inpainting but I hope it will manage things I 've failed at in the past.

trim orbit
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the feedback from bots will likely get used going forward in some way

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it's a proven approach to training

fresh path
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yes probably

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but I think they are more interested in what the community achieves with the tools stable diffusion are providing

eternal fog
sudden cliff
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I wish I could automagically copy paste some comfy nodes to Windows clipboard and paste them into a different workflow

sudden cliff
vale eagle
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But the template only stored in browser. I want it could be share to others

civic sigil
sudden cliff
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Oh I see it, right click

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huh!

shy kelp
vale eagle
eternal fog
shy kelp
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the issue is moreso with 0.5% denoise and below

upbeat summit
shy kelp
sudden cliff
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well that worked well!

eternal fog
civic sigil
vale eagle
sharp robin
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Yo! this was amazing, before this i couldnt gen anything bigger than 4k res, with this i can do up to 6k, maybe even 8k and it is significantly faster, thank you❣️

civic sigil
eternal fog
sharp robin
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6k img

shy kelp
eternal fog
shy kelp
eternal fog
shy kelp
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didnt you show an example of a latent upscale?

eternal fog
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That one was because I'm testing stuff

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I can do pixel upscales too, I'm just tweaking some settings

shy kelp
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well see you in a week when you lost your sanity trying to get the right settings (cause there is none)

civic sigil
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Yeah I had bad luck with latent upscale

visual glade
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you want to see a latent upscale with SDXL?

eternal fog
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I mean, it's not perfect, but left is just a normal pixel upscale. Right is after Img2Img

mystic cosmos
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What is style in sdxl dreambot? Is this prompt addition or embedding?

shy kelp
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well latent upscale only really works if you use a high denoise, in which case it generally degrades composition the higher resolution you do

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but you can probably do like 1.25x-1.5x and have decent composition

delicate grotto
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mmm
im abit confused, why does it give me a fully purple output?

eternal fog
civic sigil
delicate grotto
shy kelp
delicate grotto
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same thing

civic sigil
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I mean why are you doing the full denoising onboth of them

eternal fog
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I'm going to kill my GPU with a 4x upscale to try prove a point here

civic sigil
shy kelp
eternal fog
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RIP OOM

winter raptor
hollow halo
gilded plinth
shy kelp
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actually i have no idea what you are even trying to do there 😂

delicate grotto
delicate grotto
civic sigil
eternal fog
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I mean I think the one I posted is fine and no one has replied saying it's not so....

shy kelp
# delicate grotto what do you mean?

he's either gotta return with leftover noise or add noise, otherwise theres no noise to interpret. but he didnt even increase start at step from 0 so its kinda wierd

eternal fog
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We're into System Memory lmao

shy kelp
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or you* sorry

delicate grotto
eternal fog
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Because then I can't test what I'm doing. I can't use refiner properly with the Ultimate SD Upscale

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You have options to start and stop at certain steps?

hollow halo
eternal fog
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No

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With Ultimate SD Upscale

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It's not

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People keep saying different things....

hollow halo
eternal fog
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Why do I get different results with the same usage of it then across both

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No I mean using the KSampler and KSampler Advanced. Matching up the Denoise with what would be the same values on Starting Step and Ending Step gives different results.

visual glade
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latent upscaling works fine

eternal fog
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Latent upscales issue is that you have to use high denoise, so it changes the "Original" image

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Not that it really matters as you are generating images from scratch anyway

visual glade
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I prefer increasing CFG instead

eternal fog
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But anyway with "Highres Fix" What's wrong with this then?

upbeat summit
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please fix my faces, mrs. refiner sadcat

eternal fog
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Like people are complaining but I don't see any issue with what I've just posted

visual glade
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the images I posted have workflows if you want to check them out

hollow halo
eternal fog
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Am I blind or something, how is that face blurry?

hollow halo
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It really looks fine, not sure what you're on about

eternal fog
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I mean I can do that too, lets 200% zoom on it

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You are expecting way too much

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You'd need to generate something like an 8k image for it not to be like that

fresh path
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why troll

hollow halo
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It really isn't... 4mp on camera looks like ass zoomed in

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Okay well resolution is what it is

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Those still look like shit

fresh path
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u might get a good image at 12mp

eternal fog
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@brave halo Can you generate an image on SD 1.5 that size and demonstrate what you mean by something that isn't blurry?

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Because I'm genuinely struggling to understand

sharp robin
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zoom without blur like these? 2.5 x upscale

eternal fog
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I mean that one does have some blur around the eyes

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But thats more caused by the colour

vale eagle
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It just works fine with upscale. From 1360x1024 -> 5440x4096

eternal fog
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Nah

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blurry

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(I'm taking the piss, just in case it wasn't clear)

vale eagle
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because I didn't upload the original

hollow halo
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@brave halo This one blurry? 4x upscale

eternal fog
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It doesn't need to be the same image. I just want to see something like that with a none blurry face.

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I'm trying Ultimate SD Upscale to compare

eternal fog
pallid path
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wha

hollow halo
fresh path
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mechanised tyrone

eternal fog
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I want to test Ultimate SD Upscale properly @brave halo You said that If I run it through the base first and then the refiner after at a low denoise it will work the same way as leaving noise left over and then just doing the last few steps?

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So you only use the refiner for the 2nd pass through it then?

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When I tried doing that, it did make things like eyes nicer, but it made other things more smooth

hollow halo
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Well he was supposed to have a cybernetic eyeball, and it did that but I didn't expect him to hold it lol

eternal fog
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ok, I'll give that a go

hollow halo
eternal fog
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I just tried the ultimate SD Upscale with just the refiner and it's worse than my method. However it's likey because the refiner doesn't change enough of the image around the face to make it clear

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I think this is what people are forgetting when they complain

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They've been using inpainting, adetailer, custom models

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This is the upscale with just the refiner

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Nah it's fine. At least you talk about it and try stuff. And don't just dismiss it and ignore it.

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This is just with base

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I think it's made the overall composition better, but the eyes are awful

vale eagle
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Am I doing wrong? The ultimate SD upscale seperate the image as 4 part with the prompt.

eternal fog
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Denoise is way too high

uneven dove
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SDXL already does inpainting

fresh path
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(today)

vale eagle
eternal fog
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@vale eagle You have denoise on 1, so it's making a new image for each tile. Use a lot lower denoise.

hollow halo
fresh path
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although, actually tomorrow, because you will need to download like 50gb worth of models

grizzled warren
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PRUNE EM

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FP16 FTW

arctic bloom
urban fjord
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50 GB of models? What?

grizzled warren
urban fjord
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The refiner + base for 0.9 was a combined 18.5 GB.

grizzled warren
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actully, scratch that. BF16 FTW ;D

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as a large language model, I can't... emmm, excuse me xD

grizzled rock
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Hello I’m new, I was curious if anyone would be able to guide me on how this AI works and how to use it?

fresh path
vernal cloak
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wtf!? It wont run on 10GB of Vram? Not at all?

uneven dove
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sure there's text encoders, a VAE, and a unet backbone

eternal fog
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These are the two results, I prefer my way over Ultimate SD Upscale.

fresh path
arctic bloom
winter raptor
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I'm desperately trying to figure out a good upscale method, this didn't work very well

winter raptor
eternal fog
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I didn't lol. I gave it a batman theme and it did that.

sharp robin
hollow halo
upbeat summit
hollow halo
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painfully, really isn't ideal in my opinion

eternal fog
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I've not tried to work it out yet lol

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There is an adetailer node pack, but it's confusing as hell to setup.

hollow halo
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Basically you right click the finished image and do open in mask editor, then copy to clip space, load image, feed it into an inpaint node

urban fjord
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Pretend it is an NFT and right click to save it.

eternal fog
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disgusting

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lol, I'm joking. If idiots want to pay you money for NFTs all the power to you

livid basin
winter raptor
trim orbit
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lora training works well. i took a risk and tried 25 images at a high lr. 0.0002. not perfect but it works great then i just roop the face back into it. works for now. 4080 with 16

mellow tendon
uneven dove
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Scooby Doo

arctic bloom
uneven dove
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got DeepFloyd to use the SDXL refiner as output upscaler now

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that's from 64x64 to 1024x1024

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so it's pretty good at upscaling

eternal fog
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that dog has 2 tongues

uneven dove
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all dogs have two tongues, darn it Arron

eternal fog
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DEMON

uneven dove
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now wider res

upbeat summit
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that's an interesting pipeline 😄

uneven dove
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i think it has human teeths

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it's working pretty well

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refiner: "damn it jim, i'm not meant for this"

hollow halo
# livid basin prompt?

Image should have a work flow attached.
I stepped away from my computer but I can check the prompt when I get back if needed.

livid basin
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Thanks!

uneven dove
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the original img

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you can tell the refiner really rekt that lettering

civic sigil
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Oh so deepfloyd can handle super low res

uneven dove
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that's what it is, natively

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96x64 there lol

sudden cliff
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DF IF presents sub-pixel detail that latent anything will wreck sadly

vast narwhal
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i've tried to upscale deepfloyd at the launch

uneven dove
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that has the IF watermarker on it indicating you went from stage 2 to SDXL

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i went from DF Stage 1 to SDXL

livid basin
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Wow, SDXL training data must be super recent

livid basin
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As in within the last year

uneven dove
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oh

livid basin
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Because I just saw people post images with "rebecca cyberpunk anime", and that anime came out within the last year

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So the training data for SDXL must have been recently collected, post Sept 2022 at the very least

sudden cliff
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did this as a joke in SDXL... first set had this

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refiner output if you want a really nice DeepFloyd text image by SDXL

shy kelp
livid basin
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Possible, but I suspect it was on real artwork

uneven dove
trim orbit
livid basin
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Ah fair point, I didn't really pay attention

inner ruin
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I am once again asking if anyone got the diffusers LoRA XL script to work for them 😄

livid basin
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Are you using the diffusers library?

inner ruin
livid basin
inner ruin
livid basin
uneven dove
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using base model works slightly better than refiner does

static cradle
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sdxl 1.0 releasing tomorrow?

livid basin
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If they don't release the style weights with SDXL 1.0 tomorrow, I'll take a look at training my own style LoRAs

livid basin
inner ruin
livid basin
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I suspect it has to do with somewhere in the LoRA pipeline, you are using too low precision

thin nova
livid basin
livid basin
thin nova
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diffusers library has a pooled_prompts parameter for sdxl

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that's all i really know

elfin cobalt
thin nova
uneven dove
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😩

inner ruin
uneven dove
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SAI isn't doing it that way

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the 'styles' are just prompt keywords

livid basin
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SAI?

uneven dove
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stability AI

livid basin
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Ah, any reason you think they are keywords only?

uneven dove
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they explained it many times

fair crow
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Shoudn't it work on full fp16? Is there a part of the pipline that needs higher precision?

livid basin
uneven dove
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they're not even designed for SDXL, they're from an old experiment

livid basin
uneven dove
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ohh okay so DeepFloyd -> SDXL Base -> SDXL Refiner PepeCocoa

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@livid basin they do not have one

livid basin
livid basin
uneven dove
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1.25hrs til 'tomorrow'

craggy oak
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What is the copyright on these images used? The photos with and without the watermark

uneven dove
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it's YOLO copyright

livid basin
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lol, you put it better

uneven dove
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copywrong, more like

livid basin
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copyright free until you get sued

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I kid

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but not really

uneven dove
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freedom isn't free, it costs AIs like you and me

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cutting edge technology

urban fjord
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You can train on copyrighted images without infringement and currently you cannot copyright raw output from SD and similar.

lament rune
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SDXL doesn't understand vampire fangs 😦

trim orbit
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prompting issue

livid basin
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But I guess we'll get there legally when we get there

uneven dove
craggy oak
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Thanks

uneven dove
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my deepfloyd pipeline put it through the SDXL refiner before the base

primal nimbus
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its the 18th in germany

uneven dove
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utc

eternal fog
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It will be the end of the day on the 18th anyway most likely

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Probably the end of the working day

urban fjord
primal nimbus
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can someone explain to me what the refiner does?

livid basin
primal nimbus
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and how it works, what the options are

uneven dove
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it's all explained on the refiner's model card on huggingface hub

livid basin
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Isn't the only important parameter for the refiner is how much noise you add? 1.0 = do not preserve any original content; 0.0 = preserve original image exactly, no upscaling

uneven dove
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no

livid basin
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"refinement"

urban fjord
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The refiner does no upscaling, if you want upscaling you need to upscale yourself.

uneven dove
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you can simply test it and see for yourself

livid basin
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Misspoke

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"refinement"

uneven dove
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oh the refiner can refine a blurry upscaled image

urban fjord
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Yes, it can fix upscaled images but it isn't an upscaler.

uneven dove
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you kinda need a higher strength than this but that image started out as 96x64

nocturne dove
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Every image (natural photos by humans, art, etc) is a copyrighted image by default. I don't think there is any such thing as an image generator AI trained on images that are public domain or have some kind of explicit permissive license. There wouldn't be enough training data to get models of the quality we have now.

uneven dove
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please let's not argue that here

nocturne dove
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I have no intention of aruging. I was just commenting that up til now, ai training has just been done however the research group felt like.

vernal cloak
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3.2.1.

uneven dove
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when the deepfloyd kicks in

trim orbit
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vampire fangs

uneven dove
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DF -> Refiner -> Base. now i'll try base -> refiner

vernal cloak
trim orbit
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i'm all about that base

uneven dove
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?

vernal cloak
uneven dove
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A100

vernal cloak
uneven dove
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wat the heck is happening

vernal cloak
shy kelp
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so they never dropped this bad boy early huh

vernal cloak
winter raptor
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I’m hyped

eternal fog
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My guess is like between 3pm and 5pm

urban fjord
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This also means WaifuXL release I guess.

trim orbit
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12am in london! OMG WHERE THE FUCK IS IT

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🔥

eternal fog
trim orbit
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sorry for the language

shy kelp
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I wonder if itll run on auto tomorrow.

eternal fog
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I've got the WDXL Beta and it's nowhere near ready

shy kelp
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anyone know if Vlad ever got img2img to work in .9?

trim orbit
vernal cloak
uneven dove
winter raptor
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I honestly can’t see moving back to auto personally, it’s just so much rougher on my low spec computer

shy kelp
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wheres the dev branch? is it easy to access?

urban fjord
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Oh, this message on Huggingface made me think it was already ready.

vernal cloak
eternal fog
livid basin
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So if SDXL 1.0 is released, where will it be announced?

trim orbit
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the WD beta is just an obvious patreon crowdfunding cash grab. theres no way it would be ready soon but they're going full on the hype train

pallid path
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it's not 18th in america + it's not guaranteed

eternal fog
livid basin
shy kelp
vernal cloak
craggy oak
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How many photos can you create per day? With and without the subscription?

eternal fog
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Honestly for anime most people are pretty happy with what SD 1.5 can do. So no one is going to be rushing to SDXL for that.

pallid path
vernal cloak
urban fjord
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Is automatic going to support the refiner or not?

vernal cloak
civic sigil
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I dont think refiner should be default behavior for txt2img imo

vernal cloak
urban fjord
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I've gotten the best result using the refiner over just the base.

vernal cloak
primal nimbus
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🎢

eternal fog
gilded plinth
boreal bough
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yeah - while it can do anime, it's a genuinely odd workflow

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possible finetuning only the text encoder, and leaving the model alone will already significantly help

vernal cloak
trim orbit
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it doesn't know booru tags as well as the usual novel ai derived anime models

civic sigil
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There are some booru tags in Laion but not a ton

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Idk if they used other sources

vernal cloak
inner ruin
livid basin
misty sequoia
vernal cloak
misty sequoia
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Although, I feel it's lack of understanding of booru tags might be a turn off for ppl that are used to prompting using booru tags

inner ruin
livid basin
inner ruin
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and then ran it with

  --pretrained_model_name_or_path=$MODEL_NAME  \
  --instance_data_dir=$INSTANCE_DIR \
  --output_dir=$OUTPUT_DIR \
  --instance_prompt="photo of gbrlql male person" \
  --resolution=1024 \
  --train_batch_size=1 \
  --gradient_accumulation_steps=4 \
  --learning_rate=5e-5 \
  --report_to="wandb" \
  --lr_scheduler="cosine" \
  --lr_warmup_steps=0 \
  --max_train_steps=2000 \
  --validation_prompt="photo of gbrlql male person running on a lavender field, summer" \
  --validation_epochs=5 \
  --seed="0" \```
vernal cloak
inner ruin
urban fjord
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Booru tags is a bad way of prompting so not much lost there.

inner ruin
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lmk if you actually get the script to work, though. Kohya doesn't have those artifacts but it doesn't really train faces well

livid basin
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But it is just my guess

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I'll probably pull a few hundred V100s tonight, assuming they can get the 1.0 weights released

boreal bough
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since that would solve the lora issue

inner ruin
inner ruin
boreal bough
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"hope"

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why do I need a source for hope XD

livid basin
urban fjord
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ComfyUI still have performance issues with LoRA so that's why I've not experimented too much more with it.

livid basin
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Even Nvidia advertises it in their 4090 white paper, fp16 addition with fp32 accumulate

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You can add A + B=C, where A & B are fp16, but accumulate into C, where C is fp32 for better precision

boreal bough
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but as proven by multiple people here - the faces arent actually undertrained - just uneven datasets T.T
so some faces are overfit, while others are undertrained

livid basin
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You can even accumulate in fp32, then cast to fp16 for inference

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My guess is that would solve your problem @inner ruin , but that is just a guess

boreal bough
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or run in bf16 - like we have to with kohya, to solve the 'number big' issue

livid basin
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Or run in bf16 yeah, for better stability

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I don't think bf16 will solve the precision issues thou

boreal bough
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just gets rid of the NAN situations

livid basin
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yup

urban fjord
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Yeah, LoRA might run a bit smoother now, thought can't test ComfyUI with LoRA at an A100 atm.

boreal bough
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didnt he fix lora for low vram pcs?

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you should be able to test local now

urban fjord
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There was issues on all GPUs with LoRA processing happening on CPU and not GPU

inner ruin
urban fjord
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I've not tested on an A100 after the latest update, but there was still some issues after the first LoRA fix on an A100.

boreal bough
inner ruin
boreal bough
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sad 😦

inner ruin
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tried text encoder too though and it didn't help

livid basin
boreal bough
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I got the washed out issue while doing TE

inner ruin
urban fjord
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The LoRA performance is atm quite inconsistent it is tolerably fast on my 3060. Even with a model that has both unet and TE trained.

boreal bough
livid basin
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Frankly I don't quite understand why XL uses two clip models, I read the white paper and I still don't fully understand

boreal bough
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also kohya produces those exact same ultra washed out images, when using diffusers to create sample images
-but the lora works without issues in comfy

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so I dunno

boreal bough
inner ruin
uneven dove
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that's as much as i've been able to gather

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they really don't do much experimentation with text encoders. they could have fine-tuned OpenCLIP instead of involving two of them, but they'll seemingly never do that

urban fjord
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Hopefully we'll get a proper paper soon after release.

inner ruin
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Like I ran the dumb dog example in kohya and it worked without noise

uneven dove
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it might be your training images then.

inner ruin
livid basin
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Perhaps their use of Open-CLIP was for compatibility with older SD weights

urban fjord
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They still want the models to run on consumer hardware so their clip-models cant' be too big.

uneven dove
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@urban fjord according to those groups their text encoders perform better with fewer params

livid basin
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Ah that's a fair point, but EVA-02-CLIP shows that they are better than Open-CLIP at the same model size

urban fjord
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Yeah, not a big difference between 0.4B and 5.0B.

inner ruin
livid basin
trim orbit
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vit-bigG

boreal bough
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what was your sample prompt?

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maybe I'm just doing it wrong x_x

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girl sitting on a chair --w 1024 --h 1024 --d 2 --l 8 --s 30
boreal bough
inner ruin
inner ruin
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this is the best LoRA I got so far

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I think the script is fucked up, actually.

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I'm talking to replicate people tomorrow to get some feedback. will report back

livid basin
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weird @inner ruin can you point me to the exact script

inner ruin
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if you need compute juice, just DM me

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but it should run on 16

#

nothing special about the params either

#

1e-4 is ok. 5e-5 is ok too

#

AdaFactor or AdamW are both ok

#

constant or cosine are both ok

#

I would set grad_accum_steps to 4 instead of the default 1

#

beyond that it's vanilla af

eternal fog
#

I'm going to try some training tomorrow on SDXL 1.0 and see if it's any better

#

The issue I logged for the Training Scripts got dismissed saying that it was a "bug" that it worked

#

lmao

boreal bough
inner ruin
#

these guys should create some hype and set a release time/counter

eternal fog
inner ruin
eternal fog
#

You'd have people in every channel 1 second after the time

#

WHERE IS IT

inner ruin
eternal fog
#

WHERE IS IT

#

HOW DO I USE IT

inner ruin
#

like for real, you raised 100M, stick to your deadline

eternal fog
#

Can my potato laptop use it

inner ruin
#

midjourney is eating your lunch

#

not to be a dick lol

boreal bough
fair crow
#

Maybe I'm missunderstaning something but bf16 makes no sense for sdxl right? Like it ends up beeing lower precision than fp16?

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Or any diffusion model

eternal fog
#

It's faster

#

And it seems to work ok

boreal bough
#

typical output of my loras trained on these settings

#

2 of those images are base only, no refiner - just to make a point of training faces

fair crow
#

Interesting, didn't know it's faster 🤷‍♂️

boreal bough
#

@inner ruin posted some examples of my lora output

fair crow
#

Those look really good! Trying to repro rn

inner ruin
#

alright I'm trying to reproduce your settings in the kohya notebook

inner ruin
boreal bough
inner ruin
boreal bough
#

also, low res images will degrade the whole model

#

sadly

#

only poses /styles can be trained on lower res 😦

eternal fog
boreal bough
inner ruin
#

fingers crossed

boreal bough
inner ruin
#

22 images

boreal bough
#

yeah, then it will probably 'finish' around 20 epochs, give or take 5. I wouldn't train past 40

inner ruin
#

ok, gonna go for it

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50 steps warmup

shy kelp
boreal bough
uneven dove
#

is there something wrong with the 1.0 weights?

eternal fog
#

Extremely bad seed?

#

Or they are doing weird shit in the background with settings

upbeat summit
uneven dove
#

running locally

eternal fog
#

How would you be running 1.0?

upbeat summit
#

yes, how thomas ?

uneven dove
#

they're out, it's 00:22 UTC

boreal bough
#

wtf

eternal fog
#

stop it

upbeat summit
#

lol

eternal fog
#

I'm telling you, it will be like 3-5pm

upbeat summit
urban fjord
#

They never said which 18th of July.

eternal fog
#

You've only got another 13 hours

#

UK Time where they are based

#

Yes lol

#

Yes it is

#

London I think

urban fjord
#

Can we get the beta model too...

livid basin
#

This is a joke right

#

Is 1.0 really out

eternal fog
#

no

livid basin
#

don't scare me like that

eternal fog
nocturne dove
#

I trained a lora for 0.9 for a likeness. Well lokr or whatever. It worked about as well as loras I've trained for 1.5. Maybe my settings could be better because skin detail seemed a little lower than the base model. But basically it was fine.

livid basin
#

I swear to god, if they've already frozen XL 1.0 and have just been stringing us along

uneven dove
livid basin
#

Convincing photoshop

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Very nice

uneven dove
#

it's not a photoshop, i'm on linux

sudden cliff
nocturne dove
#

Well things have to be finished before release. You know, due to causality and the arrow of time. And I don't think the plan was ever "press the button to stop training and then press the button to start the livestream"

uneven dove
#

what model number hehe

inner ruin
nocturne dove
#

So I would hope that files were already uploaded to the places where they were going before now.

final veldt
#

It's out I promise

upbeat summit
uneven dove
#

here's when i disable dark reader

upbeat summit
#

do you have early access? 😄

sudden cliff
livid basin
#

Surely he is trolling us

#

lol

uneven dove
#

i would never Sadge

eternal fog
#

Yes he's just changed the text on the website

upbeat summit
#

pseudo? he would never

uneven dove
#

i don't have that ability, Arron

#

like i'm some kind of fuckin wizard? changing text on a website? what does that even mean

eternal fog
#

You forgot to change the description @brave halo

uneven dove
#

text.. websites don't.. it's an IMAGE model for generating images

#

there's no text involved

west breach
#

the number of models is still 21 in your screenshot

sudden cliff
final veldt
#

July 18th 2026 prayge

#

please look forward to it

west breach
#

every time someone asks if 1.0 is out, they delay the release by 18 minutes

final veldt
#

Is 1.0 out

eternal fog
#

No you need to get access

#

I asked Hakurei access for it

#

It's not really worth using yet though in my opinion

uneven dove
#

ouch

#

lol

urban fjord
#

What's wrong with it?

eternal fog
#

Just doens't do anime very well yet

#

It's only 6 epochs

uneven dove
#

it's not haru's fault

eternal fog
#

Training still doesn't work on less than 13GB VRAM 😢

#

No that just makes it take so long there's no point

#

I hope they sort it out, I'd like to make some LoRAs

#

Give me something to put in WDXL and I'll show you how it is for now

remote bronze
#

where is stability gonna release 1.0 cuz theres fake leaks everywhere lmao

urban fjord
#

You can train LoRA on 12 GB VRAM.

#

But it's faster to just use a speedy cloud GPU

eternal fog
#

And they keep changing stuff on the scripts and it takes different amounts

livid basin
eternal fog
#

This is what you get currently unless you use heavy negatives. But I've not been able to find any consistant ones

#

I think they are planning on re-training on 1.0 anyway though

boreal bough
#

the irony is I'm fine with 0.9 - just tell me I'm not getting an update T.T

eternal fog
#

For some reason the negative "watercolor" cleans up some of the mess

livid basin
#

I thought cheap anime usually have lines that bleed through

#

fair

eternal fog
#

It can still do 3D stuff okish for now

livid basin
#

I don't typically watch anime, but when I do watch the seasonal stuff, I notice often times lines overlap while ignoring occlusion, or colors are slightly offset from the edges

#

What's up with the overlapping edges in anime? Eg a line should be blocked by hair, but still appears

#

Is that just a thing?

west breach
#

isn't ghibli hand painted like watercolor?

livid basin
#

Or are the animators just too cheap to properly hide the edges

west breach
#

unless you're from the early 2000s with those frosted tips

high skiff
#

IT ARRIVED

eternal fog
#

Does it work

high skiff
high skiff
livid basin
#

Ah I got excited and thought he meant SDXL 1.0

upbeat summit
#

hi @west breach 🙂

west breach
#

nice hands

#

that explains it 😄

west breach
west breach
#

I got the Galax 4090, so far been rock solid and barely goes over 50 degrees (celcius)

eternal fog
#

It's just so much money though lmao

#

it's over half my monthly pay

#

Doesn't seem like a smart decision lol

#

Why would I get a 3090 when a 4090 exists

#

It won't have any more VRAM and will be a tiny bit faster for £500 more

livid basin
#

why get 4090, when there will be 48gb 5090 next year?

upbeat summit
#

why 4090ti when jensen has a 5090 in the oven

eternal fog
#

They've said no 50 series for like 3 years

#

Because I play games

livid basin
#

h100 is slower than 4090 in pure fp32 CUDA cores

winter raptor
#

I’ve been desperately trying to create something in this style with SDXL, anyone have any ideas?

eternal fog
livid basin
winter raptor
eternal fog
#

I can't sleep so I'll try something,

#

No idea, they've not said

sudden cliff
#

If you can get h100 at 15K...

#

I should have access to 1-2 H100 soon

winter raptor
high skiff
#

That is insane lmao

west breach
#

akira x moebius?

high skiff
#

My 3080 is considerably bigger than this 3090

uneven dove
#

i've been running 1.0 for an hour now

winter raptor
uneven dove
#

it's definitely their best model

winter raptor
high skiff
eternal fog
#

No he's being an arse

winter raptor
thorn lion
eternal fog
lusty raptor
sudden cliff
winter raptor
# eternal fog First attempt

I’m starting to think it’s impossible to force SDXL to reproduce that grainy, semi-silhouetted style. It seems to want to go all or nothing with the silhouetting

thorn lion
#

Which means he doesn't think he's a toy but he acknowledges the difference between Andy and himself. Implications?

fossil thorn
#

I have been seeing some good dark images posted here. Is offset noise no longer needed with SDXL?

west breach
winter raptor
upbeat summit
#

@tender timber I've send you a message

sudden cliff
winter raptor
autumn forum
#

meowmochicat

winter raptor
west breach
upbeat summit
eternal fog
#

Yeah how do you do text

#

I've never been able to get it to work

#

Yeah I do

sudden cliff
#

something like 'with the word "SOON"'

eternal fog
#

Doesn't work

high skiff
upbeat summit
thorn lion
upbeat summit
hollow halo
winter raptor
#

What so far have you guys been finding to be the best method of upscaling with SDXL?

sudden cliff
#

imagine if the shadow spelled out 'never ever'

high skiff
upbeat summit
#

I mean we have been through this phase but... it's here 🔜
Still from 1972 british comedy film, a smiling very british man holding up a sign that says SDXL is here!

high skiff
#

Driver installing

winter raptor
high skiff
#

DONE

boreal bough
#

this one, right?

hollow halo
sudden cliff
high skiff
#

its workinggggg

boreal bough
#

GPT4: "Write me a safetensor file for what you think SDXL 1.0 looks like"

uneven dove
high skiff
#

har har har

boreal bough
#

number go up!

high skiff
#

just tested it

eternal fog
#

BING HAS SPOKEN

I don’t have control over the release of SDXL 1.0, but if I did, I would probably release it at a time when most people are awake and online, so they can try it out and share their feedback. Maybe around 10 am GMT, which is a reasonable time for most regions in the world. Of course, this is just my hypothetical answer, and it does not reflect the actual plans of Stability AI. Please don’t take it as a confirmation or a promise. 😅

#

10am boys

high skiff
#

16x 1024x images in 115 seconds, or just 7.18 seconds an image

boreal bough
#

retorches his pitchfork

high skiff
sudden cliff
#

oh crap 25 1.0 spaces I failed

#

there's always something

boreal bough
#

yep XD

#

i made sure to only give access to time travel repo

high skiff
#

@visual glade Question for you good sir

#

I have 24GB VRAM, and yet the base model is still unloading before the refiner starts?

sudden cliff
#

^ did you do high-vram command line flag?

eternal fog
high skiff
#

oh, I didn't realize that was a thing

#

let me test then

civic sigil
#

You should start all your messages with "I have 24GB VRAM, and yet" today

visual glade
boreal bough
#

if anyone has a downloader script they wanna let retest every hour, this link will prob work upon release

https://huggingface.co/stabilityai/stable-diffusion-xl-base-1.0/resolve/main/sd_xl_base_1.0.safetensors
#

just noticed that all the links are super simple

west breach
eternal fog
#

It should just OOM

high skiff
visual glade
#

optimizations that auto detect if it should unload the model or not is something I need to add

eternal fog
sudden cliff
visual glade
#

so for now it uses the "safe" method of always unloading the model by default

civic sigil
high skiff
#

HOLY CRAP

#

--gpu-only

#

makes it WAY faster

dim steeple
#

Is 1.0 still coming out tomorrow?

high skiff
boreal bough
eternal fog
high skiff
#

6.82 seconds for a 1024x image, waow

eternal fog
#

How much for an 8k image

west breach
#

how many steps?

boreal bough
#

20 steps - assuming his regular setup

high skiff
eternal fog
#

What do you actually gain from more. most of the time it's well done at 10 steps

high skiff
#

this GPU is pure stock

#

I bet I can get at least another 10% perf out of this card

boreal bough
#

10 steps?!

tender timber
#

@quasi remnant thank you for posting the latest JSON you posted in #🌠|show-and-tell . I will give it a try

eternal fog
high skiff
#

I believe 10 steps works with uniPC

eternal fog
#

works with dpm++2m SDE as well

#

I shall demonstrate, one moment

uneven dove
#

1.0 is so much better at text

eternal fog
high skiff
eternal fog
#

For some reason on 10 steps she has no top on, so I couldn't post it

civic sigil
uneven dove
eternal fog
boreal bough
eternal fog
#

30 the image changes completely

boreal bough
#

25 is usually the first 'ideal' I find, and then around 60 for the second ideal

eternal fog
#

She comes back at 40

boreal bough
#

but the eyes are good now - which is also what I experience

eternal fog
high skiff
#

interestinngggg

#

on this card, its faster to do single image gens than batch image gens

civic sigil
#

Yeah 10 does not look like enough based off that

eternal fog
analog wren
#

/dream, girl with bloody hand

high skiff
#

at 1 image it takes about 6.4 seconds for my GPU, but 4x takes about 32, which comes down to about 8.16 seconds per image

boreal bough
eternal fog
#

dpmpp_sde at step 5

boreal bough
#

(or batch 9 if you have all the vram available - unlike me)

uneven dove
#

tried to get tony honk's video game art

sudden cliff
#

SDXL is out, gonna crank out some images on this bad boy

boreal bough
#

only makes sense with bf16 support turned on though, else you get stuck on vae decoding

high skiff
high skiff
boreal bough
#

after gpu only

#

you need to be on nightly torch though

eternal fog
#

uni_pc at 10 steps

boreal bough
#

either via comfy prebuilt - or running your own venv

uneven dove
#

a tony honkn

eternal fog
#

better with a different noise scheduler

high skiff
#

yeah, i assume so haha

uneven dove
#

TONK 7

boreal bough
#

at least on 4090, vae decoding is now non existent. it passes right through

high skiff
boreal bough
#

exact same as default comfy - you just extract it, update once, and then ready to run

#

no need for any config

uneven dove
#

don't wipe your SSD while you instaaaaalll that

boreal bough
nimble heart
#

interesting

eternal fog
boreal bough
#

at tiled, basically any size
untiled, around 2~3 batch, 1024x1024, or 1 1920x1024

nimble heart
#

1k^2 decodes instantaneously while 2k^2 takes > 1 minute for me

boreal bough
deep dagger
boreal bough
#

then I can batch 4 or 8

eternal fog
nimble heart
#

3060 still plenty for inference

deep dagger
eternal fog
#

lmao video game box art gives some interesting results

sharp robin
#

@west breach how do you make a github thing for nodes for comfy? like is there a guide somewhere? .gitignore, i dun get it.

eternal fog
#

lmao, I put in Boris Johnson Video Game boxart and it made this

sharp robin
#

github to distribute i guess

#

idk im dumb dumb but wanna learn

west breach
sharp robin
#

tf I thought there was some dark arts i had to know

eternal fog
livid basin
#

@sharp robin you can use github basically like it is google drive

livid basin
#

Not that I recommend it, but you can

sharp robin
eternal fog
livid basin
#

yeah you can even drag and drop into github, exactly like google drive

sharp robin
#

ohhhh

#

wow

sharp robin
west breach
livid basin
#

Why do people use vscode over pycharm? Genuine question?

sudden cliff
west breach
livid basin
#

But I like my IDE to look over my shoulder and assume I'm an idiot

west breach
livid basin
#

That's why I like pycharm and not VScode

#

pycharm = ide for dummies, perfect for me

#

If I wanted to use a text editor with a python plugin then vscode is fair game I guess

eternal fog
#

He's so orange

livid basin
#

did sdxl fail to converge, or did it converge perfectly

eternal fog
sharp robin
eternal fog
livid basin
#

0

high skiff
#

@boreal boughoh my godddd

livid basin
high skiff
#

this is even faster by a lot lmfao

high skiff
#

wow, no joke, it just flies through VAE

livid basin
high skiff
#

on BS 8, it took maybe .5 seconds

eternal fog
#

These game covers are hilarious

boreal bough
# eternal fog

He'll get the girl and he'll win your heart. The love story of the North you weren't expecting, but needed all along.

livid basin
high skiff
#

down to 5.4 seconds an image this way

#

officially more than 2x the speed of my 3080 for the same power

livid basin
strong bramble
winter raptor
livid basin
#

Can I see Kim and Trump hugging it out

#

I dream of world peace

tender timber
vast narwhal
livid basin
#

That's the world peace I dream about

#

But why are Trump's hands so smol

#

Does SDXL think our god emperor Trump has smol hands?

#

Because he does lmao

uneven dove
#

looks like an HBO show

high skiff
#

this is incredible, this means my image gens use less than half the power and less than half the time compared to my 3080

eternal fog
#

Free Propaganda tool

boreal bough
# eternal fog Praise Be

Kim 2, in the sequel, he must beat his fathers golf record, of finishing the 18-hole tally in 18 shots, by somehow using only 17. Will he do it? Will a new star appear in the skies to immortalize this achievement? Find out in Kim 2: The legend of the 17 strikes

#

I was imagining it flying back out and into the next hole - but your solution is a lot better XD

eternal fog
#

lmao, what is this

boreal bough
boreal bough
eternal fog
#

This looks awful, but the text lmao

#

Now this is an interesting perspective

uneven dove
#

@eternal fog

high skiff
#

some people are so out of touch with reality lmao

eternal fog
high skiff
#

just had a guy tell me that my repadded/repasted 3090 shipped for $600 was "not a good deal, should have been $500 max"

bruh

high skiff
livid basin
#

well the 3090 is a much worse card than the 3090 Ti

high skiff
#

how so?

#

the 3090ti is like 5% faster lol

uneven dove
#

it doesn't have a "Ti" on its name, Sytan

high skiff
#

true

uneven dove
#

trying to improve it

livid basin
#

Not the speed difference

#

But 3090 had heat issues with the memory, 3090 Ti changed the design

high skiff
eternal fog
uneven dove
#

my 4 image gens take 5.9 seconds

#

JUST FYI

#

whew, ego saved

high skiff
soft bone
#

ngl the 3090 is by FAR the coldest part in my pc even during endless inference. And that's with the ftw3 which pulls like 450watts.

high skiff
#

the thermals on this card have been next level

uneven dove
#

catwhaaa sytan abuses his gpu

livid basin
#

But 3090 had double sided memory, they fixed that in the 3090 Ti with single sided memory. The 3090 had heat issues that were fixed in 3090 Ti

high skiff
#

I love all my silicon unconditionally

uneven dove
#

Sad that poor silicon

#

jinx

high skiff
#

can it be a jinx if it was not read at the same time? lol

livid basin
#

So despite the small performance difference, sometimes the 3090 Ti is a lot more than the 3090

#

Because thermals on the 3090 were fixed in the Ti

uneven dove
#

in my boomer-ass brain wrinkles they reached at the same time

high skiff
#

yeah, i could see that

This card was known for VRAM temp issues (like 110-115 C)

but now I can't even get it to 85C haha

livid basin
#

But the guy was still an ass, $600 is a great price

uneven dove
#

he was jealous

autumn forum
uneven dove
#

i mean it SHOULD be 500 bucks because that'd be fucking awesome but that's not how things go

high skiff
#

he also said that the 4090 will be selling for $500 a few weeks after 5000 series drops lmao

high skiff
autumn forum
#

ohhhhh yeah mine is about the same lol

uneven dove
#

lol

#

$500 is his magic number

eternal fog
high skiff
uneven dove
#

that must be how much money he got for his birthday

high skiff
#

headass lol

uneven dove
#

if he just says it enough times, it's certain to become true

#

idk i saw his name and stopped there

high skiff
#

2080ti was NOT $500 when 3000 dropped lmfaooo

#

it was like 3k cause of shortages lmao

eternal fog
high skiff
uneven dove
#

my suggestion to you is to just enjoy your hardware and not post about it on reddit lmao

high skiff
#

floribruh

sudden cliff
#

wait it's really 'florida bois holla at me'?

uneven dove
#

the mating call of GPU sellers

high skiff
#

which means my review gets him the certified high value seller tag now

uneven dove
#

oh cool does that dipshit actually have a $500 3090 for sale? because i will buy it lol

high skiff
#

not likely lol

uneven dove
#

didn't think so

#

weird how he can dictate price of stock he doesn't have

autumn forum
high skiff
#

he also said he sold a 2070S for $650 back in covid, yet he thinks the 2080ti was just sliding out of peoples hands for $500 lol

eternal fog
uneven dove
#

everything costs $500

high skiff
#

its all $500

#

that was a certified spedrun lol

sudden cliff
livid basin
#

lol a 4090 will not be $500 when the 5090 launches

high skiff
uneven dove
#

the guy you're arguing with

high skiff
#

I didn't even argue, I just flat out walked away lol

livid basin
#

I bet the 4090 will be at least $1000 when the 5090 is launched

#

You are a good man Sytan

#

Now, what about a $500 3090 for me?

high skiff
#

yeah, likely considering the 5090 will probably be like $2k MSRP

placid edge
#

5090 will be mcm, will be great

uneven dove
#

5090 is going to cost 15k

#

jensen needs to pay his bookie

high skiff
#

I just hope its a 5090 and not a 509-eh

uneven dove
#

ohhh i love shia laboeuf

#

sus is that him?

#

ahhh that's tim robbins

winter raptor
eternal fog
winter raptor
high skiff
eternal fog
winter raptor
uneven dove
#

tim wobbins

high skiff
eternal fog
uneven dove
#

the russells

upbeat summit
eternal fog
uneven dove
#

chris farleyXL

#

yay it 'knows' "Eric Andre"

upbeat summit
eternal fog
#

It depends on the person and the prompts really