💬｜general-chat

[charred mesa]

Lykon already has access to the model so he might start fine-tuning it with his dataset (but recaptioned with CogVLM or something) on Day 1 if we get fine tuning tools

Though, the base model images already look pretty dope

like DreamshaperXL level quality

[dry trellis]

I'm not really a Linux guy but I had to do some projects in a class. I think you can use a .service file to do it.

[fallow olive]

I will see what i can come up with tonight. See if i can figure out the services file. thank you.

is there an argument or variable i can change to let SD use multiple GPUs to even out the work load?

[dry trellis]

I know I read about multiple GPUS recently but I can't remember if it was even supported

[fallow olive]

I had an Automatic 1111 that was supposed to use every GPU but i could not get the features i wanted through that install. It was worth a quick ask.

[bleak matrix]

Good afternoon, everyone! How are we all today?

[charred mesa]

I guess I'm alright, how about you?

[pine fiber]

whats been going on with that transformer bridge thing

https://huggingface.co/shihaozhao/LaVi-Bridge/tree/main

[trail lion]

starting it via a service is an option, but it'll be tricky to get all the environment stuff correct. Your other option is to use 'nohup' to run it and tell it to background like "nohup ./webui.sh &"

after that you can close the terminal and it should still be running

[fallow olive]

i will try the nohup but the & does nothing to hide it.

[trail lion]

hide it? why do you need to hide it ? you can redirect the output to a file?

or to null

like "nohup ./webui.sh >/dev/null 2>&1 &"

the console output is pretty handy though

[jovial wraith]

good day Sunny! i'm good, what about you?

[fervent thunder]

bot is down

[trail lion]

and 🤣 at that prompt

[buoyant narwhal]

is civit down for anyone else?

[jovial wraith]

yup

[buoyant narwhal]

hope its not the end for them...

[jovial wraith]

nah, it happens all the time. they'll be back in like an hour max.

[opal socket]

hello

I have a question regarding running stable diffusion locally

I was able to generate ai images txt2img just fine

but I do notunderstand why when using img2img the ai completley changes the base image

[jovial wraith]

you need to turn down the denoising strength

[opal socket]

https://imgur.com/a/7NV5GQY

this is what I mean

[opal socket]

okay i will try that

[opal socket]

okay well that actually worked thnx alot

[astral goblet]

img2img isn't like "make the composition of this image and it's style into a new image!" instead its just taking an image, adding a bunch of noise to it, then scheduling the diffusion generation on those now existing pixels with an adjusted scale. "Denoising" is that adjustment. 0.7 would add 70% noise to the image and start the denoising schedule at 30%

[jovial wraith]

you're welcome :)

[opal socket]

if u dont mind me asking but where Can I actually know more abt each and every modifier in full detail?

[astral goblet]

if you want to keep composition while denoising even more, you need ip-adapters or controlnet

[opal socket]

I see

[astral goblet]

https://stable-diffusion-art.com/glossary/ when learning things i always jump into glossaries

[jovial wraith]

for me it was a combination of youtube tutorials and experimentation

[opal socket]

oh so this is like the documentaion?

nice

[astral goblet]

yeah. loads of media consumption and studying and experimenting.

i love this channel for high level looks at technical details. https://youtu.be/1CIpzeNxIhU

[astral goblet]

glossaries are common term definitions. good for reference or perusing

[opal socket]

okay

[astral goblet]

its a jargon rosetta stone

[opal socket]

Well then all I need is a good roadmap

[astral goblet]

roads? /flips shades/ where we're going, we don't need, roads

[opal socket]

back to the future?

[astral goblet]

Future? where we're going, we don't need , future

[astral goblet]

So not fetch

[abstract dagger]

yo, its not free anymore?

[trail lion]

care to elaborate?

[abstract dagger]

the server name

its not free anymore?

[trail lion]

what server name?

[abstract dagger]

top left

[trail lion]

top left reads stable diffusion

[abstract dagger]

yes

that thing

[trail lion]

I dont know what news you're referencing, but it's been opensource until now

[abstract dagger]

stability.ai?

[trail lion]

I dont know man, give up is my suggestion

[abstract dagger]

thats great man

[trail lion]

these stimulating conversations are what keep me going

[abstract dagger]

same

I would literally die if I was serios for once

[astral goblet]

when was the server ever named free?

[abstract dagger]

you weren't around then

[astral goblet]

hmmm

gonna chalk this one up to skill issues

[trail lion]

lol, dont even try flowwolf, your mind will explode, poof

[astral goblet]

do or do not! there is no try! (smart fans noticed this was an absolute right away)

[fervent thunder]

this general chat is the reason sd3 will never come out

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1197378784328941640/1208875462877519913/random2.gif

;c

[abstract dagger]

I've been inactive for 1 year in the stable diffusion, what has changed?

[astral goblet]

based on my interactions here, this populus is undeserving. but i'm overtly harsh in my social judgements. don't take me too seriously. i wouldn't give me any power either.

[astral goblet]

oh oh i get it now. you are talking about the free bot.

bots turned off. stable diffusion is still free and open though. good luck!

[abstract dagger]

Has it gotten better?

[trail lion]

I'm ok with that

if it's worthwhile it'll come out, if it isnt, meh

or someone else releases something, or stability goes under, a million possibilities under the sun

dont make it like this, if we all work together..., no

[manic canyon]

Does anyone knows how the performance scales 4060ti vs 4070s vs 4070ti super? 🤔

[trail lion]

what are the odds anyone here has all those cards? so really what you're asking is for someone else to research this for you

[pine fiber]

why ask? takes 5 seconds to google

[pearl ocean]

idk, but I got a 4080

[haughty path]

Can't seem to find an answer to this online. But has anyone found a way to simulate a photoshoot?

Like I feed SD a single image of a Bride and Groom. Then SD goes off and produces a set of images based on that single photo as if I had taken the entire photo shoot. I could settle for pose changes but likeness, and clothes need to stay the same in every img.

[manic canyon]

Nothing in google, 4070s is pretty fresh

[manic canyon]

You don't have to have it all, you can just describe your own performance in it/s, someone with other card will do the same and voila

Or maybe I have found something , they say

The 4060 Ti sure seems like its still the sweet spot. 16 GB of ram and about 12 it/s is pretty decent for $700

The 7900 is getting about 20 to 21 it/s. $1,570

The 4070 TI Super is getting about the same; 20 it/s. $1,417

The 4080 Super is getting between 24 and 30 it/s, for $1,799

https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/3w8ypnyq

[pine fiber]

so expensive

to think msrp of 4090 is $1500

[pearl ocean]

4080 is good enpuph 🙂

[ivory dagger]

sorry for the question but how do I install these in automatic1111?

root@redacted:/workspace/sd/stable-diffusion-webui/models/Lora/temp# tar -xvf 25jrju.tar 
lora.safetensors
embeddings.pti
special_params.json
```I mean if it were a lora it would just be the safetensors file only right? why the .pti too ??? It doesn't work either way when I load it as a lora

[quaint saffron]

Guys how to fix this? (NansException: A tensor with all NaNs was produced in Unet. This could be either because there's not enough precision to represent the picture, or because your video card does not support half type. Try setting the "Upcast cross attention layer to float32" option in Settings > Stable Diffusion or using the --no-half commandline argument to fix this. Use --disable-nan-check commandline argument to disable this check.)

[manic canyon]

Maybe try to provide sysinfo with such cases, cause there is a lot of options

[quaint saffron]

it's a long text

[manic canyon]

pastebin or a link to file

[quaint saffron]

how do I do that? (shy)

[manic canyon]

https://pastebin.com/

With syntax highlighting for json

[quaint saffron]

https://pastebin.com/0fPpS1Bp

like this?

[manic canyon]

This is output from your console

To get sysinfo you have to go into your webui settings

[quaint saffron]

let me try

[ivory dagger]

why did u guys react with thinking emoji

am i dumb

[astral goblet]

fp8 support from the transformers engine, basically doubles memory of 4080 . 3090 can manage fp8 too, with a significant speed hit though.

inference at quarter precision really isn't noticeable at all. same seeds are identical

[manic canyon]

Cause I have no idea what is this thing and what are you doing, especially on linux

[quaint saffron]

I'm in the settings now, where do I find sysinfo?

[ivory dagger]

I downloaded the weights from my finetuned model on replicate.com

and I just want to add them to automatic1111 web ui

you know

[pearl ocean]

😮

[neat seal]

Hi, sorry, where to enter the prompts?

[astral goblet]

i think it's built inot forge, but base auto1111 needs the extension----no my bad. it is in auto1111 now

[neat seal]

I'm lost here at discord and used midjourney 1 Year ago

[manic canyon]

"System info file, generated by WebUI. You can generate it in settings, on the Sysinfo page. "

[manic canyon]

I guess you have to ask the creators of the weights, or deduct from the contents

[ivory dagger]

i mean you guys heard something about pti?

ah fuck it

im probably just gonna train on the model again

[manic canyon]

You are on linux, there is no file extensions on linux

[astral goblet]

wtf

yes there are

[manic canyon]

I mean, there are, but its just a string

[ivory dagger]

ya

[quaint saffron]

ok than I paste it into pastebin, enable highlight, than what?

[manic canyon]

File extensions are windows os concept, linux has shebangs (and magic bytes)

[median turret]

where do i share my art? nsfw

[ivory dagger]

XD

[manic canyon]

Make a link right there, and paste such thing always with your problem when you ask for help

[quaint saffron]

how do I make the link? Just clikcing the paste?

[manic canyon]

Create new paste button

[quaint saffron]

did that

how do I ccreate link?

https://pastebin.com/dX7vTJ7W ?

[buoyant moss]

I run a 4090 and I get around 7 it/s at 1024x1024 with SDXL base

So 50 steps takes like 7~8 seconds

[fervent thunder]

chili rice retro wrap

[manic canyon]

Drop --no-half or just add --disable-nan-check

[quaint saffron]

How? 🙂

[manic canyon]

It's your starting parameters, its most likely in the webui-user.bat if you are not passing it manually

[still glacier]

please never use --disable-nan-check

[fervent thunder]

soggy nuggets dipped in spring water or something

[manic canyon]

Had to use it every day on AMD 🤷‍♂️

[still glacier]

then you probably did something wrong every day

[quaint saffron]

ughhh

Now I'm super confused

[manic canyon]

Just try dropping --no-half

[quaint saffron]

but @warm junco helped me figure out, it was one of my models, juggernaut gives me problems

[quaint saffron]

you mean delete that line?

set COMMANDLINE_ARGS=--xformers --no-half-vae --device-id 0

[astral goblet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filename_extension came from unix servers and windows filenames are just strings too

where do people get this stuff?

[manic canyon]

Yeah, delete this from your starting parameters

[still glacier]

no he meant use that set COMMANDLINE_ARGS=--xformers --no-half --device-id 0

[median turret]

anyone knows where i post nsfw art?

[still glacier]

not here #✍🏼｜rules-and-tos , rule 4

[quaint saffron]

ok getting rid of the -vae part

[median turret]

lule

ok

[manic canyon]

It's more than a string on windows, you have things in the registry for the given extension types, but nvmnd

[astral goblet]

default apps?

both gnome and kde provide support for default apps. pretty sure other environments do too. its quite standard behavior

[fervent thunder]

i wonder how good lora will be on these new models

[quaint saffron]

NansException: A tensor with all NaNs was produced in Unet. Use --disable-nan-check commandline argument to disable this check.

[still glacier]

continuing in #🤝｜tech-support

[quaint saffron]

still error

with juggernut

[manic canyon]

More than that, windows is ignoring magic bytes completely, you can make file with multiple extensions and it will use only the last one, there was many attacks basing on this afaik, while on linux you can do gcc yourfile.c -o yourfile.png.bmp.bin.whatever and it will stil run correctly just basing on magic bytes

[astral goblet]

extensions are still implemented on linux. always have been. it's the primary way to decide what apps open what file. reading the first few bytes of a file is so innefficient compared to reading the last few bytes of the filename

you can't garuntee every file from the internet will have magic bytes either

[manic canyon]

It is more on the gui side, but ok

[astral goblet]

kde will display a thumbnail if the filename is .png . not if its .blipitybop. even if it has a magic byte

the purpose of those is something else. not general use

you're way off base bud. extraordinary claims to say linux doesn't use file extensions. ugh. i quit

[manic canyon]

Nice, always using gnome or openbox. Linux doesn't have file extensions as the operating system, there is no such things in the linux kernel, period

[astral goblet]

if there's no file extensions in the kernel at all, why the fuck does the code implement .ko file extensions? honestly. confidently wrong beyond anything dunning krueger could've predicted

[manic canyon]

It's all for the user only, you can name anything any way you want

Build your own linux from scratch and check it if you don't believe me

[astral goblet]

nothing about file extensions are a microsoft thing. they come from the early unix days. inherent to file systems

[fiery cove]

Between A1111, forge, and comfy, which UI do people prefer?

I dabbled in A1111 a while back but have heard good things about the others too

[manic canyon]

yeah, cause unix is much older, but *nix systems are not using the extensions techincally speaking, at least under the hood

[trail lion]

if you mean what does everyone prefer, how would you ever get an answer, people prefer different apps for different reasons

[astral goblet]

i have. i tested myself years ago and got gentoo up and running. can't do that without dealing with object code. wonder how those files are saved?

[manic canyon]

Just a concept that you can change, now try to do it with .dll files on windows

[astral goblet]

i assure you, it is much more efficient to load the last bytes of the filename in the lookup table, than to seek the file, open it, and pull the first bytes out of it.

Magicbytes are a security measure for servers to verify files are what they are. not to replace file extensions

[manic canyon]

True

First part, at least

[astral goblet]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[trail lion]

you could make some generalization like, comfy does better automation, auto1111 is more intuitive, forge is like auto, but more geared toward performance, but at the end of the day it's your experience

[astral goblet]

https://civitai.com/models/267242/proteus new proteus

hoping the bely button artifact isn't on this refinement. lets find out

[pearl ocean]

┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

[shut needle]

You can't generate pictures here anymore?

[narrow kernel]

File extensions aren't actually a thing on windows either. Rename some image.jpg to just image, right click and open with paint. It still loads. The extension just flags what should load what.

[astral goblet]

it was the weirdest flex. it was the strangest flex.

some guy asking how to use a lora on linux, starts telling him theres no such thing as file extensions

[gusty oriole]

[nova zodiac]

#1047610792226340935

[nova zodiac]

So they do do something then…

[raven field]

Any chances that bot get back online !?

[shell tendon]

Beep boop. Image requests in #🏞｜general-with-images please.

[astral goblet]

need to be invited to the bot this time around

[fervent thunder]

a doubled egg for each celebration

chili rice in a jar

obese slopathen

doing stuff the taco way

tronisanator landings

can’t get rid of the sour obese slopathen

skank tallat marks author

a vengeance doubled egg for each century

giffa gabba from the tyrants

oop i forgot abt that gibba gabba

[shell tendon]

Beep boop. Image requests in #🏞｜general-with-images please!

[narrow kernel]

For the actual file? No. They are essentially just a tag like putting a sticker on the outside of a folder. It doesn't change or have anything to do with the actual file contents.

But anyways, this is a stable diffusion server, not an acktchully debate server

[pearl ocean]

512 vs 1024

[ruby trail]

Hi! Which chat can I ask for advice on workflow? I'm interested in how to change the style in ComfyUI, to make an already upscaled 80's photo look like a modern photo without changing the face. And secondly, where do you discuss Lora's training here? I have a lot of questions about training. Or maybe there is a better discord for this? (noob mode)

[broken smelt]

we have a comfyui channel and a training channel

[trim magnet]

where is the free gpu channel

[ruby trail]

Hmm could you point out pls I'm dont see it 🙂 I see comfy only in dev section, but my questions is not dev related. And which one for train?

[mint cobalt]

So I am trying to get into AI generation

what do you guys recommend for good arts

[broken smelt]

#🧣｜comfy-ui

ur a developer if ur working with comfy dont worry :]

[mint cobalt]

#🤝｜tech-support message saw this

and the Automatic 1111

[broken smelt]

Workflow sharing and general Comfy UI discussion.

[mint cobalt]

any recomendation on what to use?

and easy for a beginner

[flint fox]

use A1111 or Forge for beginners

ComfyUI gives more customization but also increases the difficulty for using

[mint cobalt]

What about this what were they using, ComfyUI?

[flint fox]

yes

[broken smelt]

#🔧｜finetune sorry forgot to link the other one, this channel is where folks usually talk about training

[mint cobalt]

I tried to installed A1111 (Couldnt get pip to update and xformers to download) I know its not tech support was just saying

[hardy vale]

Hi

[mint cobalt]

also tyvm

which is better you think

forge or A1111

which specialize in what

[trim magnet]

forge is a1111,its just a fork from a1111 thats better optimized but not all of the a1111 extensions work with it

[nova zodiac]

Fooocus best for beginners, a1111/forge intermediate and comfyUI advanced

Acly extension for krita also pretty easy

[mint cobalt]

could you go int odetails? Im trying to decide or somewhere to read about it. Sorry to ping

[median birch]

Who know how do use the diffusion ,I,am a Newcomer

[jovial wraith]

I'm not usually one to say this, but Google and YouTube are your best friends. Look up "how to install stable diffusion automatic1111" and you'll get plenty of tutorials

[scenic rapids]

Hi

[mint cobalt]

I am following one

but xformer wont do anything for me

I feel sad

[sudden ruin]

What card do you have?

[mint cobalt]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

[manic canyon]

🤦‍♂️

[manic canyon]

He was asking about .pti extension, which can mean many things even on windows, and he was on linux, where ppl name things as they wish

[astral goblet]

Linux uses the same python scripts that look for the same file extensions chief. This stuff actually is all root down in linux and ported to windows after the fact

[manic canyon]

What stuff?

[astral goblet]

pytorch. the whole field of ML

[manic canyon]

You are dead wrong

[astral goblet]

weird hill to die on. the linux ecosystem has plenty of support for file extensions and they're used extensively. Find an expert you admire, since you've decided you know more than i do on the subject, and ask them for clarification.

its 3am and you woke me up with that notification. now kindly drop the confidently wrong act

[manic canyon]

For years Nvidia support for linux was so great that Torvalds said "Fuck Nvidia" on his public spech, first cuda release was for both windows and linux, but nobody used the linux version afair

Your 3 am, your problemo, for me its 11pm

[astral goblet]

Yeah I know. I was there. Back when i built gentoo, dapper drake ubuntu had come out earlier that year and i was running beryl / compiz desktops with nvidia drivers. There was a lot of hate for the binary drivers then too since no source. Been dealing with linux "experts" who say they know better than me for decades. i just keep doing what i do instead. file extensions go brrrrr

[narrow kernel]

Linux makes up such a small percentage of non-server PCs that you'll just end up in echo-chambers when talking about it. I think last time I checked, Linux was like <2% on steam hardware survey and that's counting the surge of users with steamdecks? Yeah, that's why drivers have always sucked for Linux...

[fervent thunder]

Nice to meet you, I'm Japanese.
Can I ask Stable Diffusion questions in this Discord group?

[still glacier]

Yes.

[fervent thunder]

thx!

There are various items on the left side, where should I ask questions?
(If possible, if you add a reply, you will receive a notification so it will be easier to notice)

[still glacier]

Here is a good place for general SD related questions. for technical support questions, go to #🤝｜tech-support

[fervent thunder]

Thank you, I'll write it over there!

[elder pollen]

is cascade unoptimized?

[charred mesa]

I have no idea but it runs on 12GB

maybe even 8GB, idk

in comfyui, weights are loaded and offloaded so it never exceeds the VRAM limit for me

(this is probably how we might see SD3 + T5 run on 8-12GB too )

[shell tendon]

⚠️look at the response above from Mud (dirtwater__)

@karmic brook @sudden ruin

[elder pollen]

i have heard that it requires MINIMUM of 18

which is why i was asking

[charred mesa]

???

damn

[elder pollen]

yeea i didnt believe it

and i shouldnt have

[shell tendon]

@warm junco @bleak matrix⚠️ @still glacier

[charred mesa]

no its better to be cautious

I probably shouldn't be so optimistic about SD3

I just want to believe

okay I'm gonna load in Stable cascade models and see the highest peak in VRAM usage

Okay, on a batch Size of 4 it goes above 8GB

[bleak matrix]

Can I help?

[shell tendon]

Yes look above

Racist comment

Mud

[charred mesa]

hmm decreasing batch size barely decreases VRAM 🤔

yeah for me, batch size 1 on the Stable Cascade Stage C model it peaks at around 8.1 GB of VRAM

so maybe 12 is needed 🤷‍♂️

[bleak matrix]

Taken care of 🙂

[charred mesa]

@elder pollen okay so it goes ABOVE 8 GB it seems

in Comfyui

[shell tendon]

Thanks!

[wise bear]

What do people think of ELLA and SD3's long wait? I feel like we'll have any LLM hooked up to any diffusive model within weeks compared to months o.o

[trim magnet]

i have no strong feelings one way or the other

[narrow kernel]

SD3 is pobably going need 18-24gb of vram for the quality levels they've been demoing. I'm sure they have some quantized versions, but those will obviously sacrifice quality and accuracy.

[narrow kernel]

Minute one people will be able to just use llms to make good prompts, since SD3 has good prompt cohesion. Just take a simple idea for a prompt, run it through an llm with an instruction like "take my prompt and expand it into 100 words, include XYZ descriptions, yada yada yada"

Fooocus has a built in gpt2 prompt expander that does this under the hood. Same with dalle and MJ, they use an llm to detail prompts

[wise bear]

I think prompt cohesion isn't going to be as useful when the model is censored. The time taken to safety check SD3 will be pointless if people find alternative ways to get other diffusive models to work effectly, such as 1.5

[narrow kernel]

95% of people that use SD don't actually care because we don't sit around making lewd waifus all day. I'm fine with it being censored. Plus, if you're really that interested in making that kind of content, just do it in 1.5, upscale, unsample, resample it in sd3

[gaunt pulsar]

The censorship of the model is a censorship of creativity. Maybe some hobbyists won't mind it, but serious creators don't want to have their tools limited

I got banned on dalle-3 due to an error in the filter when I asked for a very sfw artistic picture of a cosmic angel... The filters are not perfect, and I don't see the point of moving to an open source tool only to be limited yet again if there is censorship

[loud quest]

Dall-e 3/Bing AI basically censors or bans you for drawing women at all haha

Actually the reason I recently moved to SD is because I was trying to make art for a Pathfinder character who's a female fighter

And her design isn't even sexualized

But if you use the word woman or girl and anything related to being physically strong

It censors you

[gaunt pulsar]

Yeah, they really censor strong/powerful women for some reason

[loud quest]

You can make a shirtless guy shaped like a Baki character though, that's obviously fine 😂

[true canopy]

but sdxl isent censored right?

[sudden ruin]

All base models are afaik

With LCM, Turbo and Lightning models maybe its closer than we think

Yeah I just mentioned those since it looks like were heading towards faster models at least for image generation

Latent Consistency Model

They are much faster models

Ive seen people reaching like 12 pictures per second

Thats about generation

I just used those as an example cause im more familiar with image generation

[silk condor]

Anyone here who know of a tutorial on how to make your own model? I've used a model but it's like 1+ year old and would like to make my own with the images i've created..

[true canopy]

hm, im having some memory loss or something, i make a few images, then after while im getting out of vram error, then i restart and i can continue = /

[fallow veldt]

https://civitai.com/models/330313/tplanetsdxlcontrolnettilerealisticv1

[trim magnet]

thats the bad one,plenty of ppl tested it and is not very good

[fallow veldt]

I'm testing it, getting good results but I wasn't getting bad results before, so I don't know if it is doing much, which is the good one?

[sudden ruin]

Ive read somewhere that it wasnt even meant for upscaling? Not sure

[trim magnet]

yea its not made for upscaling and thats how most ppl use it

[trim magnet]

how many imgs you have and whats your gpu

[pine cloak]

whats the best image tagger tool to implement in comfyui workflow?

[fallow veldt]

In the guide it gives an upscaling guide

[trim magnet]

doesnt matter what the guide says,the results are the ones that matter,i already deleted my imgs so maybe ask @shell tendon he made several imgs with it maybe he can post the results in sdxl chat comparing them.

[silk condor]

Several 1000+ 😄 and 2080ti

[fallow veldt]

I just made this, it works (!?) but really as I say I should test it without it, I don't understand if it doing something #🏞｜general-with-images message

As I say before, Ultimate Upscaler seems to work fine for me

[trim magnet]

you should probably make a lora instead or just download a better checkpoint,u need like 50k to 100k imgs to make a good checkpoint and all those imgs dont fit in 11gb vram

[silk condor]

There is tons of checkpoints out there and people are doing them. I wanna learn on how to create my own

[trim magnet]

yes for 1.5 checkpoints a 3090 should be enough

[true canopy]

3090 is jsut "enough" now for 1.5?

what do u need for sd3 then, a 6090?

[sudden ruin]

This: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/cerebras-unveils-cs-3-wafer-scale-ai-chip-with-900000-cores-and-4-trillion
Obviously a Joke

[trim magnet]

we talking about training 🗿

[true canopy]

ah i see, sorry my bad

[fallow veldt]

which is the good one?

[trim magnet]

there isnt one yet

[fallow veldt]

Mm just test it without it and it is upscalling just the same, I don't know if it is doing something

[trim magnet]

yea theres no difference with vs without it

[teal pagoda]

Can anyone help me by explaining how the supermerger extension works (the Merge Block Weights function and the LoRA merging)?

[trim magnet]

theres also one for anime but idk i havent tested that yet

[fallow veldt]

yes me neither

[narrow kernel]

When you cough up millions of dollars to create and train a model like SD3, on god knows how many A100s, let me know... It's their product and they get to pick how they want it used. Just because it's "open source," doesn't mean it's "open freedom" or "open to degenerates feeling entitled to be able to make degenerate things." If anything, serious creators, as in commercial creators that will generate revenue for stability, are far more likely to want a censored model anyways.

[trim magnet]

wait you can generate revenue for stability if u create imgs?

[sinful sparrow]

Good thing is if it's like SD or sdxl ppl will find a way to get nsfw soon after release

[narrow kernel]

https://stability.ai/membership Unless you're a pro or enterprise member, you're not allowed to use stable diffusion commercially. Also, the three tiers of membership are in reference to the core models list and SD3 isn't in that list yet. It might get put there, it might not. Maybe they will have their own set of commercial rules for it, we don't know yet.

[trim magnet]

damn so all those ppl in twitter and patreon makin money with sd must be paying a lot

[gaunt pulsar]

Go into any AI art community and ask the creators there. Literally nobody will want increased censorship lol. It's a tool, creators don't want photoshop to tell them what to do

[narrow kernel]

StabilityAI likes some of the buzz that hobbyists can generate, but hobbyists don't fund massive projects like this. Technically, StabilityAI can go after the people making money with Patreon and whatnot (legally, you are required to enforce your IP or you can lose rights to it) that aren't paying for a pro membership. Commission work with SD is still commercial work, so at the minimum, they'd just need to have the pro membership which is cheap(unless they are pulling in over a million). "For creators and developers with less than $1M in annual revenue, $1M in institutional funding, and 1M monthly active users (all three must apply)"

[trim magnet]

tbf i wish stability had a donations page,maybe we could help them a little bit not a lot but at least help them with all those training costs

[sudden ruin]

I think the censorship happens to save them from legal fights and stuff, they are on the safe side releasing a model thats censored. What we do with it is on us and not their fault.

[sudden ruin]

You are allowed to use old models commercially from my understanding, only the new models from turbo and upwards are covered by the membership iirc

SD3 will surely be part of it as well

[sudden ruin]

I mean you can donate by buying the membership and even get some benefits with it. You could also buy clipdrop credits or what else they sell

[fervent thunder]

if they make sd3 available early to test on some site with credit, ill gladly drop some coin for it

[narrow kernel]

Read the core model page, they explain the other models not listed and how the terms are listed on HF/git. I image some of the other models aren't allowed to be used for commercial purposes. As for SD3, we'll see. It's a big leap that's going to directly compete with the other juggernauts, so now might be the time they want to to get a big return on all the RnD over the years.

[sudden ruin]

Yeah it does not list any 1.5 models or the normal SDXL for example

[broken smelt]

Yeah SAI only recently started doing the premium membership thing

older models aren't under it

[narrow kernel]

Which means you need to refer to the terms of use on HF/GitHub like I said. If they say they can't be used commercially, then you can't use them to make money at all; legally.

[sudden ruin]

For 1.5 im pretty sure you can use it commercially. SDXL was a special case iirc. Dont pin me on anything I say here

[broken smelt]

Yeah it's an openrail M license, i remember reading it a while ago

https://huggingface.co/spaces/CompVis/stable-diffusion-license

You're allowed to sell anything you create with 1.5 models

[sudden ruin]

Not sure how custom finetunes are handled tho, civit handels things differently

[honest spear]

SDXL 1.0 is listed as open rail ++-m on github, it can be used for commercial as far as I know. Turbo and SDXL 0.9 have different licences

[honest spear]

It's good practice to read what license is offered on the model page, sometimes it can happen they merged with models that prevent commercial use, but it's rare

[sudden ruin]

Oh yeah turbo was the outlier

[zealous trout]

where can I make the images?

[trim nymph]

bot is offline for now. you can generate images locally or use online services to generate

[sharp cairn]

where do i go for requests?

[frozen helm]

can you not read a single message above you?

[sharp cairn]

im in the wrong discord server then

[frozen helm]

why would that be

if you come back in a month or a year the bots might be back up

[sharp cairn]

no i remember a server that had a bunch of channels where people can request and other people would make images for them

maybe it was called unstable diffusion

[frozen helm]

why though

when you can just use the bot

(When it works ofc)

[sharp cairn]

no i need the image now while it can still be funny in context of the conversation

you can make an image for me?

[frozen helm]

ok go do what you need to do

no I can’t

[lean pilot]

Does anyone here use SD for game development? Making 2d/3d assets?

[bleak matrix]

Good afternoon, everyone!

[trail lion]

I dont but there's a guy over on the stable diffusion training discord that does, goes by Hackmans

[trim nymph]

❤️

[bleak matrix]

How are you?

[charred mesa]

https://twitter.com/ZHOZHO672070/status/1768709893391827010/photo/1

It seems that using Playground v2.5, semantic understanding, attribute matching and spatial position relationships can be better achieved. With the addition of Prompt-to-Prompt, accurate replacement of local objects can be easily achieved! ! !

But what I want to emphasize is that Prompt-to-Prompt is really easy to use! ! ! GN (AGAIN)!

The original post quoted is the picture of #SD3 posted by @EMostaque
 at that time. You can make a comparison:

[trim nymph]

fine! happy that spring arrived & finally sd3 is cooking! what about you?

[elder pollen]

so 12 is needed

that is, somewhat fine i guess

way more okay than 18

doubt it could get optimized even more

[bleak matrix]

Me too! Oh, just hanging out, and doing some 3D modeling!

[lean pilot]

thank you a lot

[astral goblet]

https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1bean0o/bridging_different_language_models_and_generative/ this is already released

[pine fiber]

https://twitter.com/philipp1337x/status/1768679154726359128

[pine fiber]

anyone implement it yet?

[astral goblet]

i ran their test script and it worked. haven't seen it as a comfy node or extension yet

https://github.com/philz1337x/clarity-upscaler very cool thanks for the link @pine fiber . can't find anything on the reddit sub right now. The "my son" meme brigade is burying any new content.

[pine fiber]

lol

[astral goblet]

i don't think it's a healthy community anymore. people downvote new releases of tools and hate on china constantly there. the tone is just.. sometimes tone policing is needed but that can kill a community too.

lost cause really.

[pine fiber]

never been there

well occasionally off google but its never been very useful

[astral goblet]

yeah i need to find new information sources. It's just a cess pool on reddit since the emigration happened.

i'm on x looking for people to follow, but the main feed keeps throwing anti woke shiit at me. i dont even follow any of those people. x just figures i'm in the demographic that needs to see that shit.

[pearl ocean]

Time to move to Threads

[honest spear]

X is very good for ai and stable diff related papers news, it was already good during 1.5 period, the problem is that a paper without a comfy node or a1111 extension is not very much for the normal users

[nova zodiac]

Interesting to see how much this improves 1.5 and sdxl prompt adherence

[pearl ocean]

SD3 when

[nova zodiac]

Sd3 already has t5 lol

[worthy bone]

SD4 when?

[pine fiber]

u mean sdxl

[pearl ocean]

Next presidential election

[nova zodiac]

No, sd3 according to the paper

[pine fiber]

ok but

sdxl has t5 now

[worthy bone]

Ok I'll prepare the RTX 7090 with 512GB of VRAM

[pearl ocean]

I just have a simple 4080

[worthy bone]

I'm back from the future and the 7090 will cost $4,500

[pearl ocean]

I wonder how much faster a 4090 will generate SD images compared to the 4080

[worthy bone]

I still have a 3060 so I don't know 😂

I've always dreamed of having a 4090, a bit like everyone else

[pearl ocean]

8 months ago, I just didn’t wanna pay an extra $1200

[worthy bone]

How much did you pay for the 4080?

[pearl ocean]

I think it was $1700 AUD

[charred mesa]

that's too cheap

in a decade nvidia will still only give us 24GB max on the top cards

[worthy bone]

We deserve more guys, we have to fight to get 512GB of VRAM 😂

[astral goblet]

oh god. is it? does it have to be? it might just be

[pearl ocean]

Better off just buying used server GPUs

[astral goblet]

24gb limit is more about the chip density then what nvidia is willing to provide. TMSC 's usual scaling plan was wrenched up by covid. won't be till 2027 that they get factories producing denser chips online

[trail lion]

Threads like creating threaded conversations, or the meta thing

[astral goblet]

there's only so much supply and they don't want to compete with themselves, so only enterprise get cards with a lot of chips

[fervent thunder]

did yall see the new google sima?

[astral goblet]

Canada sued Google over Google news, and now all their AI services are banned in Canada as punishment. We don't get any of Google's ai up here

basically extortion

[trail lion]

You're not missing much

[fervent thunder]

what about the tinygrad things

the tinyboxes

[astral goblet]

Anything google does in the machine learning space is a bad time. I know how they're willing to weild their models.

google's a prime example of why the worlds largest advertising company can't have exclusive control over models. Why open weights matter so much

[charred mesa]

can't wait for lavi bridge on comfyui

[astral goblet]

i paid $1200 after sales tax for my 4080 in Canada in December. It was the only card that retailers weren't surging the price way over MSRP. The sales guy even took a slide at me for not getting a "better card" frm the 30 series. I laughed. Youtube tech journalists spread so much fud.

[astral goblet]

i was looking at the code. everything looks straight forward. if i had more of a basic understanding of diffusers and the math, what goes where kind of stuff, i bet i could port it myself. I'm surprised it's not ported yet. People seem to be ignoring lavi-bridge

[charred mesa]

llama 13b at 4-bit can run under 12GB iirc 🤔

[astral goblet]

when i run the t5 test file, my vram only hits 7gb

[charred mesa]

also I wonder why stability chose T5 specifically out of all the LLMs.. is it cause it's an encoder? easiest to implement?

damn!

does it have int8 anywhere in the code

like bitsandbytes or whatever is used

[astral goblet]

no idea. a lot of it is diffusers calls.

i'm not particularly experienced with python let alone diffusers

[charred mesa]

huh I don't see it in there

so it only hits 7GB with fp16? 🤔

[astral goblet]

yeah, i think it loads everything in half precision. sounds right

[charred mesa]

is T5-Large = T5-XXL?

I can't find info about it

[astral goblet]

it was the t5-unet.py test file, so i'm not sure which t5 it uses. proobably not large

[old solstice]

Yes because it's an encoder-decoder. GPT and Llama are decoder only so they don't "make" a text embedding that can be used.

[astral goblet]

documentation in the project is pretty sparse

[charred mesa]

ah thank makes sense then, thank you

[astral goblet]

theres a llama2 adapter in the project too but i couldn't get it running

i got the weights for llama downloaded through facebook's weird download script, but when i point their script at that folder it doesn't recognize it

[charred mesa]

T5EncoderModel.from_pretrained("t5-large")

[astral goblet]

there you have it. large . surprising

[charred mesa]

I just want to know if that means XXL or not, cause if that's true, 8-bit could probably get it running on 8GB and less

this would further prove that SD3 could possibly run on our lower vram computers

flan-t5-xxl's model card was modified from t5-large, so this could be it!

[astral goblet]

https://huggingface.co/google-t5/t5-large the large model card. i think its the one ella will be using too

[charred mesa]

loading it in 8-bit is just as simple as doing this
model = T5ForConditionalGeneration.from_pretrained("google/flan-t5-xxl", device_map="auto", load_in_8bit=True)

[astral goblet]

code often is simple. learning the incantations though....

[charred mesa]

at least it will be easy to implement for them

but yeah I would not even understand a bit from the actual code that is running beneath these

[astral goblet]

yeah my toying around with the lavi bridge code, i have no idea what i was doing, but it gave me lots of hope for the coming days

i'd love to do more testing but i hate eiditng code to make prompts haha. That's how i first started when i found a collab script for stable diffusion (no ui)

[charred mesa]

This offers means for trading off model performance for im-
proved memory efficiency, which is particularly relevant
for the 4.7B parameters of T5-XXL
🤔

its weird cause google's version of XXL is 11B

[astral goblet]

the thing that excited me about the repo most is there was training code too

I think they rushed out to beat Ella with their methodology haha

[charred mesa]

I'm happy that they will release SD3 will stuff like controlnets, fine tuners and it seems a Trubo model too

[charred mesa]

lmao

[astral goblet]

i should read about turbo models more. i like turbos in general. that sound when a turbo charger is spinning up. ohh baby 🤌

[charred mesa]

honestly the removal of T5 is so contradicting

we observe limited performance drops when using only the two CLIP-based text-encoders for the text prompts

Only for complex prompts involving either highly detailed descriptions of a scene or larger amounts of written text do we find significant performance gains when using all three text-encoders.

So is it a limited performance drop or not man

isn't the point of SD3 is to have highly detailed prompts (or text, but that's less important)

[astral goblet]

i think they want to migrate people off sd15

giving them options

[charred mesa]

without T5 the context length isn't 512, it's 77 again (or 77+77 if both clip models are somehow used)

[charred mesa]

they won't

[astral goblet]

they're pretty entrenched yeah

[charred mesa]

most people stay on SD1.5 because of corn

[astral goblet]

it's got the juice

[charred mesa]

and performance wise too, SD3 will probably only run as fast and as efficiently as SDXL

if at all

[astral goblet]

i probably won't ever turn off t5, even for simple prompts

[charred mesa]

same

thank god that it won't hinder generation speed

we only will have to wait like a second or two (if not less?) where it generates the conditioning

[astral goblet]

to me, 5 images a minute or 10 images a minute, negligible difference of speed. but if i were at 1 image a minute, i'd want some improvements (why i bought a 4080).

at some point, the returns on the speed are low

[charred mesa]

with highres fix it takes like 30 secs to generate an image with SDXL Lightning (on a nasty weak little 3080ti I know)

I'll likely be making images with highres fix in SD3, Lykon's results with highres fix are immaculate

[trail lion]

I'm on an amd, it's probably more like 45s for me 😉

and I dont even bother with training anymore, I just do it with cloud compute

I could train fine on 1.5

[charred mesa]

a year or two ago I was dreaming about training my own 1.X models offline, being able to generate whatever I would want to

now I don't even feel like doing so

I only trained a funny SDXL lora on google colab a few months ago

[trail lion]

vast works well enough, and the money goes a long way as long as you dont forget to shut the dang instance down, which I have once or twice

I'll bet you could easily train a dozen loras on $20

[pearl ocean]

We can talk about SD3 all we want, but it still ain’t here ! 😦

[charred mesa]

yup

99% of us don't even have access to the early access lol

[trail lion]

my plan was just to watch people post images, when the time comes, that's good enough

[charred mesa]

yeah

I love how Emad said: Imagine we will see a lot more #SD3 in the TL soon.

[astral goblet]

one of my favorite general "rules" is the 1% rule. means 1% of invited people are publishing

[pearl ocean]

The 1% would most likely be YouTubers and researchers

[floral nest]

wait whaaa

[astral goblet]

the twitter #sd3 tag is like 3 people with access posting images, and a lot of other people hijacking the tag

[pine fiber]

lol true

we really need an sd3 channel

idk who to @ for that

[astral goblet]

once ella is released

[charred mesa]

yeahhh

[pine fiber]

ella been delayed

[astral goblet]

or someone trains a lavi adapter

[pearl ocean]

No point if no one has it

[pine fiber]

yeah but we're talking about it

discussion should go there

[charred mesa]

If I would have gotten access it would have fricking exploded

I have a whole prompt list ready

[astral goblet]

4 people are posting images

[charred mesa]

yeahh

[pearl ocean]

Realistic Pickles!!!!

[charred mesa]

yessir

pickles are great

[trail lion]

1girl big gazongas

[astral goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdsomv-dYAc one of the most nobel and true uses of AI to date

[pearl ocean]

[trail lion]

sorry, that never gets old

[floral nest]

the fact you had a default pfp made it look real 😭

[charred mesa]

wow and this was 3 years ago

[worthy bone]

give us access and the world will be a better place

[charred mesa]

lol

[astral goblet]

i'm not sure how much AI and how much genuine love and craft was used, but i love it

[trail lion]

is it sfw? lol

[charred mesa]

yes

[trail lion]

that was half-joke, but thanks

simpsons, nice

[elder pollen]

people keep saying a1111 or comfyui, but cant i use both?

[trail lion]

sure, why not

[elder pollen]

for lets say

i generate something with comfy right?

i want to inpaint!

i send that one image to inpaint and proceed from a1111

[trail lion]

you can inpaint in either

[elder pollen]

a1111 feels easier in usage

[trail lion]

but of course, you gotta do the nodes and the this and that, I'm a a1111 guy

[charred mesa]

yeah inpainting in comfy is a little more bothersome

[elder pollen]

is there a way to merge these two

[astral goblet]

nothing the nsfw diffusion crowd comes up with is noble. not in my books.

[charred mesa]

stableswarm is like an easier UI for Comfyui I guess

but idk if that has inpainting

[trail lion]

🤔

I guess you'd have to define what noble means to you

[astral goblet]

not doing the helicopter dick like willem dafoe is a big start

[trail lion]

ok, actually laughed out loud there, nice

[astral goblet]

if i had to personify my definition, it would be Tyrion Lannister. Quite a perverted dude but composes himself in public still. Keeps it in his pants you know?

[trail lion]

all I'm saying is, until I see that personified in SVD or animated diff, those arent ready yet

[charred mesa]

man I thought mattvidpro would be getting access

he would have made a good video on it

[astral goblet]

train a motion lora for it

[elder pollen]

so my plan is, generating an image using comfy and then using that image on A1111 onward for inpainting and stuff

and i found some video that does something similar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5103u5uRII

[trail lion]

what you're saying is totally doable

the helicopter thing, well that remains to be seen

[elder pollen]

is it a good choice of action

i want efficiency

[trail lion]

why?

results > speed

[elder pollen]

good point

[trail lion]

like do you want a good image, and to be comfortable with your choice of tools, or do you want to force a workflow...no wrong choice here

[elder pollen]

i want both good image and efficiency

[trail lion]

I personally stay within a1111, but I dont do a bunch of complicated batch-type things that would need that node framework

[pearl ocean]

I read that as
results > weed

[trail lion]

also, people here seem to stress about it/s. it's so silly if you ask me

get over it, hah

[haughty magnet]

Hey!! Is there a way to automatically generate photos using Fooocus and alter the face without having to manually edit each photo with faceswap or inpaint?

[trail lion]

first foocus user should get some kind of prize

[pearl ocean]

Win an Apple Vision Pro

[bright cradle]

When bot available

So many times down

[manic canyon]

i have yet not met any linux expert who calls himself an expert, especially the ones who claim to know better than anyone tend to be just super toxic noobs, like bragging that you have run your desktop on some 3d cube 15 years ago and i have to accept your authority and your subjective opinions as a general truth, sorry i wont, i am also using linux longer than many ppl here lives, so what

[placid wasp]

id say those last two statements could be viewed as toxic

[astral goblet]

til file extensions existing all over linux operating systems is just an objective opinion

top answer says exactly what i'm saying.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

only medication i take is an anti inflamitory over the counter. bad knee tendons. That whole "flowwolf needs meds" thing was just invented by certain people and upheld by the mod team.

doesn't really get at me. Just makes me laugh whenever "Mean Girls" movie becomes reality

[keen rose]

if I generate more images at once, will this strain my (weakass gtx1060) computer harder or will it just do them one by one in queue?

[still glacier]

if you generate more at once, it will generate more at once. Not sure I get the question.
That s why you habe both batch count and batch size in automatic1111.

batch size, how many picture do you want to generate at once for one batch.
batch count, how many batch you want to cook

[keen rose]

oh this is my first time using the actual stablediffusion, up to now I used civitai's on-site generator

I'm not sure where batch count/size is

[still glacier]

depends of the software you re using

[keen rose]

uhhh sd 1.5 webui? idk any other answer

[still glacier]

that s not a thing.

sd 1.5 is a one of the base sd model, webui is a family of software using sd models

[keen rose]

ok so...webui?

[still glacier]

that s not precise enough, what are you driving ? a car.

[keen rose]

I don't even know how to answer you

[still glacier]

what tutorial did you follow ?

[brave jetty]

I'd like to easily create endless video, for website backgrounds. Would you know an easy way to to do it, at least a way to realize that?

I already installed comfyUI. Maybe you have a ready to use worklfow that works with humble computer

[keen rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXEyhM3Djqg

this one

[dusk canopy]

💀 my stable diffusion xl images look ass

using sd automatic1111

[still glacier]

so that would be automatic1111's stable-diffusion-webui aka auto1111

[keen rose]

yeah.

[still glacier]

batch size and batch count should be sitting pretty obviously in the middle of the page

[keen rose]

yeah it's there, thanks

weak computer is weak lol 10 minutes per image

[still glacier]

there s tooltip, hover bubble for basically button and slider explaining what they do.

[still glacier]

what gpu do you have ?

[keen rose]

gtx1060 6gb

I'd prefer to just use civitai but a lot of the models I want to use aren't actually usable on their site so I had to download them to use locally

[still glacier]

open webui-user.bat, find the set COMMANDLINE_ARGS= line, replace it with set COMMANDLINE_ARGS=--xformers --medvram --no-half-vae

[keen rose]

is that something I can do while it's in the middle of processing an image?

[still glacier]

sure but it won t apply until you restart the webui

[keen rose]

alright

[dusk canopy]

Naw brl

Stable diffusion just bsod my pc

Downloading it

How bad is the experience with a 3060 12gb??

I am using this video card and with other gui fooocus works good

[still glacier]

no problem whatsoever

[dusk canopy]

Stabsl diffusion no

Is it my setup

I was using juggernaut

Maybe it's filling up all 12gb of vram

I think I need more vram for stdxl

Too big

[still glacier]

sdxl can run pretty easily on 12gb

[dusk canopy]

Is it like large language models

[still glacier]

even on 8gb

[dusk canopy]

No?

[still glacier]

even on 6...

[dusk canopy]

What the heck

Probably my config then ig

[opal hedge]

I ran sdxl quite well on 12GB

[still glacier]

I have to go for tonight

[opal hedge]

8GB would probably be possible as well but using facedetailer and other fun toys would be much harder

[dusk canopy]

What sdxl version

I get this weird neon retro colour

[keen rose]

to be clear I should probably avoid doing much else on my computer while generating images right?

[dusk canopy]

On the border of all my images with juggernaut

[dusk canopy]

I run text interface and image interffCe

Lol

[pearl ocean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBvvJUYtnEA&ab_channel=WaveformClips

[keen rose]

can you load up a bunch of different prompts and queue them to generate in order on automatic1111? like if I want to go watch a movie while I generate 10 images for 5 different characters (so 50 in total)

[nova zodiac]

There is an extension for that

Google a1111 queue extension

Wildcards is an option as well

[broken smelt]

just generate infinitely 24/7

[pearl ocean]

What images you making?

[dusk canopy]

i got a good setup going finall

not using stable diffusion

ussing focuss

[shell tendon]

Beep boop! Image requests must be made in #🏞｜general-with-images

[shell tendon]

https://github.com/ELLA-Diffusion/ELLA/issues/13 Ella won't be released for SDXL

[trim magnet]

good, 1.5 is the one that would benefit the most with it

[shell tendon]

it'd sure be nice to have it for both

[astral goblet]

"good" weird

[trim magnet]

"weird" good

[pine fiber]

didnt they they wouldnt release it, just said itll take some time because they need to review it

does it make sense with 1.5 even?

[shell tendon]

It doesn't sound likely based on the phrasing there

[nova zodiac]

Agreed, it sounds like they would have difficulty working with the different licence

[spark estuary]

I'm on phone can someone tell me how to generate photos

[trim magnet]

with your own computer if u have a decent gpu

[spark estuary]

So I can't with phone?

[trim magnet]

what phone do u have

[spark estuary]

Android m01s

[pine fiber]

you have to pay

[trim magnet]

then no,u can run it locally on a phone but it has to be one of the top models

[pine fiber]

if you wanna mess around sites will give you free credits

[spark estuary]

Is there hv any web that free and unlimited

Don't hv to wait for tokens?

[trim magnet]

no such thing as free and unlimited

[fervent thunder]

hi. I have a question about embeddings, where should I ask questions about that topic?

[opal hedge]

Have the early access sd3 people been releasing produced images?

[nova zodiac]

Thibaudz did

[strange ruin]

Hello! Pissbly, someone knows any free desktop tool for AI TTS?
I want to TTS the whole book and but paid ai tts like elevelnabs is extra expensive, but sounds nice

i mean i want to find really good tool, because 90% of things that i found sounds like pepsi vendor machine talks to me

[dull swift]

RVC-2 is voice2voice and combined with a weaker tts model it can do it pretty well txt2voicr

[runic mountain]

does anyone know why i can’t see promote post on my x post activity area even though i switched to a pro account ? 😵‍💫

[strange ruin]

i'll check that, thank you

[nova zodiac]

Bark

[timid valve]

which upscaler is bes tfor realistic models ?

[trail lion]

try lollypop

[nova zodiac]

4x ultrasharp/nmkd superscale/nmkd siax/foolhardy remacri all do a good job, it's more about the process than the upscaler itself.. an ultimate sd upscale with a low denoise and a good amount of steps helps

[pine cedar]

If I have a specific promt, generate 20 images, find 4 seeds that I like and want to rerun all 4 of them with hires. fix. Is there any way to input all 4 seeds to run them in the same go? Or do I need to generate one at the time?

[static cape]

I'm so fed up with XL always getting the short end of the stick...

[charred mesa]

most of the time people don't bother with XL cause it's more expensive to train ig

But "At this point, nobody uses SD1.5, so the community will likely not show interest if it's based on it." is not a 100% true claim.

many people still use 1.5

[trim magnet]

yea pretty sure 1.5 is still the most popular local model out there and second place is sdxl

[charred mesa]

its cheaper to run and train and its less restrictive for corn

SD3 won't replace SD1.5, it will replace SDXL

[trim magnet]

maybe the ELLA creators are waitin for sd3 thats why they are only releasing the 1.5 ver

[charred mesa]

most people who use SDXL use it cause it's "cutting edge" anyway, higher base resolution and fidelity and slightly better prompt adherence, but it's also more expensive to run and it may not excel in EVERY region (like corn)

I'm not so sure if the 2B or 800M version of SD3 will replace SD1.5

[dusk canopy]

Slightly better adherence?

Won't even generate someone washing a window

[charred mesa]

probably, never tried it

[dusk canopy]

I have on my 3060 12gb

Sometimes it works good

Sometimes no

Can I run it comfortably on a 3060 12gb

[trim magnet]

which one sdxl or 1.5?

[dusk canopy]

Sdxl

[trim magnet]

oh yea u can run it on a 3060

[charred mesa]

yeah 12GB of vram is plenty enough for SDXL

[dusk canopy]

Easily or barely?

[charred mesa]

easily

[dusk canopy]

And what about training

[trim magnet]

depends how much ram u have

[charred mesa]

its not a question for VRAM, its about the cuda cores

and for training VRAM is more important

probably 16GB no idea, never looked into it

you can train SD1.X with like 8GB offline if not less with Lora

[trim magnet]

yea it will be tight but it works

[charred mesa]

I only remember 8GB because of dreambooth back in like 2022 lmao

[dusk canopy]

Cuda cores mid on the 3060

[charred mesa]

god there's been some time since then

[dusk canopy]

It's slower

[spice agate]

my stable diffusion strucked with "Commit hash:" command line
how can i fix it?

[shell tendon]

yeah it's frustrating. sdxl is pretty great but hasn't ever had the full feature set

i blame nvidia for their price gouging/enterprise product protecting vram limitations

[static cape]

I really really hope that changes with SD3.

[shell tendon]

no excuse for the 3080 not having 24gb and the 4090 not having 48gb imo

agreed

[trim magnet]

pretty sure even with 48gb still wouldnt be enough,pony creator had several a100's and still took him several months to train their sdxl model with 2million imgs

[spice agate]

help me 🥲

[trail lion]

you might want to check in the tech-support channel, and provide better information

commit hash doesnt mean anything

[spice agate]

sure 👍

[charred mesa]

well they will launch with controlnets

[charred mesa]

I'll probably only use the depth one

and use img2img a lot

[wise shale]

Here is a good place, but you're welcome to ask me directly. I've created quite a few.

[upper stag]

Any ETA when API is fixed? Not sure where to ask API related questions

[low moon]

How come only Comfy gets a channel? What about Forge and A1111 and Fooooooooooooooooooooooocus?

btw my stable cascade thing in forge/A1111 died

it said i can only run it with 16gig vram on the webzone but i was able to run it with 12 but now its dead, i think it permanently suicided when i tried to render more than 1024/1024 and now it refuses to live again even after reinstal

[silk condor]

I have been using Loba's skin on my style, but where can I find others and test them out? I have trouble with Lora's view and etc with it.

[foggy halo]

SD3 release when 😭

[broken smelt]

I'm waiting on sd4 tbh

[foggy halo]

yeaa frrr just imagine its potential

i wanna try out sd3 nowww

like if there was any way

[silk condor]

Where can you see if you got SD2?

[low moon]

probably u need 40 gigs of vram... they have to optimize it and stuff im guessing

[charred mesa]

stability likes comfyui

and comfyanonymous is also a stability dev

[dusk canopy]

Environment

[charred mesa]

well they have given early access discord invite to like 12 people and only 2 of them are posting on twitter

[dusk canopy]

Fooocus is better than stable diffusion

[charred mesa]

one of them was kind enough to accept requests

[dusk canopy]

Stable diffusion gives me garbage images

They look blurry

Very blurry

[charred mesa]

you mean like fooocus gui guarantees good images

[dusk canopy]

Config is better for sure

[charred mesa]

its kind of like an open source midjourney

[low moon]

fooocus is so easy

[charred mesa]

simpler prompts and you get super aesthetic images

I love the concept

[low moon]

Forge/A1111 intermediate

Comfy is lets just say NOT comfy

[charred mesa]

comfy is arch linux

[dusk canopy]

Comfy UI looks like unreal engine

💀

[charred mesa]

oh blueprint

yeah its node based

like blender shaders

[dusk canopy]

Best quality.images are from fooocus

Does anyone else have this issue with sdxl

It doesn't follow the prompt

[charred mesa]

hmm

[dusk canopy]

You can't change eye position etc

What's up with that

I can't make them look at something

And I can't make car chases

[charred mesa]

no idea 🤷‍♂️

never made those types of images

either prompt weighing or its not possible

[dusk canopy]

I probably gotta train a lora

[charred mesa]

you can probably use 1.X models with fooocus

if you have loras or they perform better with those

[dusk canopy]

Quick question yk the images you put in a lora

[charred mesa]

but fooocus is an sdxl first gui

[dusk canopy]

Is it like a deep fake will it generate people in your lora

[charred mesa]

uhh

[dusk canopy]

Because I saw some people.using it for that

Putting names etc

[charred mesa]

well you can train faces and people

you can train subjects

and you can train styles

with loras

I trained a TF2 lora for SDXL and that was fun

[dusk canopy]

What gpu

[charred mesa]

idk which colab I used but it was in colab

[dusk canopy]

How much vram

Oh

[charred mesa]

even if I had enough vram I would not train on my PC

[dusk canopy]

3069 12gb good enough for local training?

[dusk canopy]

Privacy is king

[charred mesa]

my GPU clearly outperforms the T4 in a lot of ways (except vram lol), but still

[dusk canopy]

When it's all going through my GPU I have a sense of ownership

[charred mesa]

stuff I made don't include faces anyway

not like google will take them

[dusk canopy]

Yeah

[charred mesa]

that's why I inference offline though

[dusk canopy]

My dataset is derived off Google images and discord images

[charred mesa]

I love offline AI stuff

but training

expensive and time consuming

[dusk canopy]

It's about 1gb of images

[charred mesa]

1 GB?

[dusk canopy]

Of training data

[charred mesa]

gosh

[dusk canopy]

Yeah

I'm gonna use it to train eye movements and other things like car chases etc

[charred mesa]

that would be good for like a massive dreambooth fine tuning where it becomes a big project like DreamShaperXL

[dusk canopy]

Gonna feed it a bunch of dashcam footage

Split videos into images and feed it that too

[charred mesa]

what model are you using fooocus with btw

[dusk canopy]

Juggernaught

Stdxl 2

V9

[charred mesa]

yeah that's a good model

you can try dreamshaper and the new proteus model

[dusk canopy]

The fingers are fucked.up

I can fix it with that right

[charred mesa]

inpainting

fooocus has nice inpainting

[dusk canopy]

Dreamshaper or juggernaut

[charred mesa]

if I recall correctly, fooocus's inpainting works with any sdxl model

cause its some sort of special model or adapter

[dusk canopy]

What's the best model to train for realism and natural camera shots

In dim rooms and lighting

[charred mesa]

juggernaut and dreamshaperxl

I think

[dusk canopy]

I can't use two XL

At the same time

[charred mesa]

you can look at some juggernaut and dreamshaper images by searching this: ( from: darksm in: ✨｜sdxl has: image )

[charred mesa]

no I mean you use one of them

just look at the preview images and decide which one you'd prefer

my images are similar to lykon's simple portraits

I do use highresfix though

[dusk canopy]

I sw

See

[charred mesa]

highresfix can increase fidelity so much with any model

including SD3

this is why Lykon's images with SD3 look so extra nice

[dusk canopy]

When is sd3 coming out

[charred mesa]

no idea

hopefully weights drop in april and way more people get access to the discord server towards the end of this month

the model looks good enough for me, but idk how much they are training it still

• controlnets + fine tuning tools they are promising + optimizations

etc

controlnets are going to be so much superior than sdxl controlnets

[fervent thunder]

sd3 is AGI CONFIRMED

[charred mesa]

well

Mistral 7B with projector and internet RAG (GGUF) and SD3 image generation sounds like GPT4V

offline

I wonder if that would be possible with 12GB

[dusk canopy]

Let me get this right

I wwnt on citviai

And there is people selling loras of ai influencers

☠️

[charred mesa]

idk makes sense

people sell trained stuff

its just the way it is

[dusk canopy]

Wsll

Some of them are selling for like 60

You can buy a gpu for 300 but fair enough 300 is still alot

I'm gonna try multiple models in general image and see which is bsst

[pine fiber]

you can sell things on civit??

[fervent thunder]

but isn't that not allowed by the license ?

[pine fiber]

sdxl you can but turbo no

iirc

[fervent thunder]

I am drawing on stabble diffusion but it is taking too long, I think my computer is good enough, can you help me why is it taking so long?
32 GB RAM
RTX 4050 6VRAM
i5-13th Gen

[charred mesa]

wdym

do lora models you train have a license for example?

if you mean finetuning a model itself then sure, its probably still licensed under open-rail or whatever

[true canopy]

what resolution are you doing? perhaps its a bit high

[fervent thunder]

1024 - 1024

[true canopy]

and how long is it taking?

[fervent thunder]

sometimes 10 minutes

sometimes 8

[true canopy]

that is a bit high

[fervent thunder]

and i watch some youtube videos, so people have same system i have but they doing it like 1 minutes

why i dont know

[trim nymph]

time to invite me to the beta, i would cook

[charred mesa]

same, got a whole prompt list ready lmao

would you prompt according to how CogVLM would?

So with natural language and not tags

[trim nymph]

just to be 100% sure-whats your meaning of tags?

[charred mesa]

this type of prompting for example: "1girl, with blue shirt, in castle, fog, dust, masterpiece"

I just call them tags, idk the official name of the prompt type

[lone hawk]

u have 6 Gb Vram that is barely enough for simple SDXL use in ComfyUI, what is happening is when your system run out of Vram it start using your regular RAM memory which is super slow, thus is why your generations take that long, get a better GPU with lots of Vram like 4060 Ti 16Gb.

[charred mesa]

you know I expected the r/stablediffusion subreddit to explode with a bunch of images and stuff but literally nothing happened besides like 2 twitter users posting some images for like 2-3 days and then nothing (one of the was kind enough to take a bunch of requests too)

[true canopy]

yeah 6gb is pretty low, even less then i have

[charred mesa]

6GB was the perfect vram minimum back in 1.5 and 2.x days

fast enough to run with xformers and no midvram required

back in my day 👴

[true canopy]

well one thing is for sure, amd completly sucks ass for stable diffusion

[charred mesa]

yeah sadly

hopefully directml and rocm becomes better

[trim nymph]

mostly natural languange! some tags are very powerful. it gets playful when one tries to balance between those. as an photograph/visual artist i see the contrast changes that occur when balancing those. what i love: using subjective language! it brings out the magic out of models often

[true canopy]

im choosing parts for a new pc now

[charred mesa]

ah yeah

[true canopy]

but its hard to decide on gpu

[charred mesa]

what are you nvidia choices

[true canopy]

4060 ti 16gb, 4070 ti super, or 4080

i guess its just a price range

[trim nymph]

i think the amount of people in the beta is super low. just industry friends & so on

[charred mesa]

4070 ti super instead of 4080 I guess

lower tdp if I recall correctly?

and similar cuda cores

[true canopy]

but the price between 4070ti and 4080 super is fairly close

[trim nymph]

not the type of people to share extensive, probably some none at all

[charred mesa]

285W vs 320W

cuda cores: 8,448 vs 9,728

[true canopy]

its that much of a power draw difference? i didnt know

[charred mesa]

both has 256-bit memory bus, nice

[charred mesa]

depends on where you live I guess, 40 series is already lower than 30 series by default

if you live somewhere where energy bills are expensive of course go for the lower tdp and it might just pay for itself in the long term

but yeah 285 vs 320 may not be a huge huge difference 🤔

hmm idk to be honest

[true canopy]

4070 ti is $1050 and 4080 super is $1250, where i live

[charred mesa]

200 extra dollars?

well

[true canopy]

tax and stuff bring it up wher ei live, sadly

[charred mesa]

same fr fr

Oh

4080 super

4070 ti super vs 4080 super

that's a better comparison

[true canopy]

4060 ti 16gb is $625

but i worry that its so much inferior

[charred mesa]

yeah the memory bus is much inferior

same amount of vram but not the same speed/strength vram

[true canopy]

does memory bus inpact stable diffusion a lot?

[lone hawk]

yes

[charred mesa]

same with LLMs if I recall correctly

memory speeds matter