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wraith briar
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that's super confusing lol

tawny mauve
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have you used github before?

wraith briar
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Yeah, but only to download stuff. I'm not a programmer

tawny mauve
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https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui
last bit is the project name, bit before is the username

wraith briar
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ohh snazzy. Thank you wise homer simpson

tawny mauve
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all pythons in 3.10.* are compatible

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I've never used stable-diffusion-webui before so I can't help with that

astral goblet
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i was told 3.10.6 is the one you want and issues can showup otherwise

gray crater
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WT....😡 whats going on with dreambooth? its been 5 days triying to create my own model and alot errors coming out! last week was fine!

vapid tangle
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😡

surreal radish
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In 1111, any idea if training an existing hypernetwork picks up from where it left off? Or is it starting over?

untold ocean
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git reset --hard

gray crater
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Anyone used dreambooth with safetenors? it seems not accpeting it

river maple
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once deepfloyd comes out, it'll probably end up in the automatic1111 webui

river maple
vapid tangle
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what is deefployd

river maple
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DeepFloyd is an open source image generation AI based on pytorch-imagen and funded by Stability AI.

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waxen pasture
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(It's a Blender plugin to generate 3D meshes from text)

pure geode
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hi guys, there is a function (not deforum) to get a video of the generation of a single image (for example the 20 sampling steps) ? catsprout In Automatic1111!!

formal spruce
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imma be real with any person running stable diffusion on windows

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its gonna be better on linux!

brisk bloom
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not if you jump between photoshop and SD all the time

formal spruce
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but who uses photoshop 🤣

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i mean Foss is just better

brisk bloom
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choose your tools. I like it

formal spruce
still remnant
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okay, so, gartic phone - but with SD

formal spruce
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gee what

signal dome
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Who will make a.i to do household jobs ... No more maids needed 💀💀

astral goblet
signal nest
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for example i'd have liked a robot that could clean a bike. This could be a fixed program, i.e. set the arm and the bike in a known starting position. However such an arm costs far more than just having a second bike for when its raining

outer crescent
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not everything needs a robot

willow eagle
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We'll first see mainstream adoption in the fast food industry where the common stock will be displaced.

timber dock
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These types of menial task automations will likely arrive with a humanoid robot

astral goblet
astral goblet
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digital control of motors and actuators is actually quite a signal to noise solving problem, and systems like stable diffusion are great at denoising it turns out. I think these networks will rapidly deploy to robotics quite soon

hidden sluice
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guys

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i am proud to announce

wide juniper
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How do I change my automatic1111 webui login credentials?

hidden sluice
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r/stablediffusion has officially surpassed r/dalle2 in members

river maple
astral goblet
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yeah thats how i'm trying to do things but i keep hitting dependency hell. doesn't help that i'm on windoze though

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so far i got cuda 12 an all that setup with cudnn an libs in env variables. i built pytorch 2, built torchvision, working on audio, then i'll use all that to build xformers again, then we'll see . it probably won't work but the process is exciting

jaunty hazel
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Any smart tech support-y types around?

old marten
wide juniper
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I just installed Xformers, but when I ran it, the Gradio link was gone. How do I get it back?

runic pelican
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what's currently a good mask/ai background removal tool?

old marten
jaunty hazel
stable ferry
wraith sky
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Yes but it's a little extra work, for example if you copy and paste prompt into the image notes field in the eagle app, those words will be pickup via the search
The search is quite powerful as you can also have smart folders and have negative search terms
Also the app had a local api (api you can use via local script, no online cloud rubbish)
With the local api you can query your images and change details.
At the moment I am writing a small script that will use the local eagle api to grab the embedded prompt data from my images and load that into the notes section of the image.
This way I'll have all the prompt info at my finger tips for searching
One thing that does annoy me about the app, they do not expose custom fields, so I'll my prompt and steps,cfg etc. info I load into the notes field and format it in there
I've asked them to let users add custom fields , that way prompt, negative prompt, steps, model, etc would all have their own fields.
But so far this custom fields isn't an option.
Maybe time to build a competitor product? They seem to get 90% of what's needed for image organisation correct just that final 10% makes a difference.

wraith sky
stable ferry
# wraith sky All of this could have been avoided had commercial art ai models not been traine...

Building an image dataset by hand would take an insanely long time though. I don't believe this is really about ethics, I think this about artists worried about being replaced even though they claim it's about ethics. Once there are models out there that can generate images just as well with said artists removed from the training data artists will still be angry, mark my words. It's good that these tools are in the hands of the people, corporations own a lot of artists work already & they will train models on artists work they own & use it as a cheap alternative in the long run regardless, at least this way the average person has access to this technology as well.

willow latch
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Got a never used Dell 3060 12G for birthday yesterday 🥳 Now we can talk 😉 😂

wild whale
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Such a pity those copyright lawsuits holding up culture. Everyone is inspired by anything. Same is Stable Diffusion. But it's a legal mess now it seems habby btw, wasn't sd 2.0 trained only on public domain?

signal nest
signal nest
signal nest
# wild whale Such a pity those copyright lawsuits holding up culture. Everyone is inspired by...

We've seen the arguments both ways - I'm assuming that both emad and his investors assumed a probability of this happening , maybe they even have some funds set asside for settlements ? Given the above fact: number of potential users with cameras who can take a photo and label .. it seems like it should be possible to create a purely opensource dataset pretty quickly ; but its only once people have experienced the power of a local generative model that they'd be motivated to do it. (I started voluntarily labelling years ago, because I wanted an image generator, but I couldnt' train one)

peak trench
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i dont need to hire an orchestra anymore lol

quartz bough
tough pendant
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Is there a Model trained on TTRpg Battlemaps? 🤔

signal nest
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i must say these arguments would go better if we could get the net with a default embedding that has a negative prompt for 'watermarks' baked in..

graceful wing
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yo wtf is the difference between "safetensors", "pickletensors"

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on models

elder cradle
graceful wing
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i see

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thank you for the heads up

placid hinge
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do you include some message, termns, etc?

wild whale
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So if an artist uses their own dataset on sd it's ok by Getty? Because sd was still anyway trained on datasets they claim include their images right? I'm confused, can someone explain please?

upbeat gorge
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Hi guys, how are u?
im developing an app using the SD API, thinking about the recent law suit, theres anything that we should say or show in the app to keep a said of any problem?

thanks in advance

sudden isle
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Switch focus and develop an AI lawyer

signal nest
signal nest
# upbeat gorge Hi guys, how are u? im developing an app using the SD API, thinking about the re...

I'd like a community estimate of proabilities: [1] the cases just go nowhere, everything carries on as normal [2] SD has to pay damages, and/or some restrictions on use are announced. [3] They manage to get SD sued out of existence, and the net itself becomes treated like piracy, and no other service like huggingface or github will host it. I have no idea on the likelyhoods of all these cases. But from Emad's replies in an AMA, they seemed confident. (I asked why they dont do a pure photo version to avoid the accusation of art theft)

sudden isle
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I think GPT4 might legitimately win court cases if ChatGPT can so easily mindhack people

upbeat gorge
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its really strange, because every designer "take inspiration" from others... so SD or MJ its the same...

signal nest
viscid ermine
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Whats the syntax for generating fine details starting at step 30 for example. Something like [fine details::30] or?

signal nest
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from my POV - i've got artist friends and I empathise with them on the hard work and need to sell work - and I respect their skills. I dont want to offend them in any way. I dont use "txt2img" replicating art styles, rather "img2img", to me SD is an advanced enhancement engine.

worthy scaffold
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/help

fervent thunder
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Any news?

sudden isle
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No update on litigation. I did look up Getty's financials yesterday and they might be a finished company whatever happens. Their stock crashed because of negative profit margins and they have too much debt.

warm junco
upbeat gorge
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app for android

warm junco
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Would be interested in a mini Stable Diffusion for Android xD

warm junco
upbeat gorge
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It will be out in a few days 🙂

warm junco
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Ist this even possible with Snapdragon Adreno and Mali ?

warm junco
upbeat gorge
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i will!

upbeat juniper
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Hi all, my first day using Stable Diffusion, it's so amazing!

prisma pulsar
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I love how my art got falsely reported on Reddit for spam and inappropriate content and hate messages about using AI when its art that I made myself. Idiots.

sudden isle
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Instead of robots passing the Turing Test, humans just start failing it en masse

cold siren
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it is quite scary realliy

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way too many people seem like not acting on their own, just repeating some talking points implanted by teh media/propaganda/advertisements/etc

deep berry
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My two cents on this so called lawsuit against Stable diffusion and others will fail horribly. Might I add the "likeness " those stolen from other artist's decades ago. Where is their legal claim to reap? So hypocritical...or possibly butthurt because Midjourney is creating 80% better material than their original artwork to begin with. Oohh don't forget Google and others that haven't shine the stage yet. Text to video and text to audio...the list goes on. People cannot stop the A I process. Soon cellphone companies will merge into it. Then it's over....

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Just wait...till my favorite entry appears. Augmented reality...ooh you haven't seen nothing yet. Text to image is trash compared to this. Just you wait...all these cry babies out there. I can say if you literally copy and paste someone's art and sell it as your own. You are in right to sue by all means. But if your work isn't no where near original compared to the user's imagination creations. It's null and void.

forest apex
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lawyers will make a lot of money though

cold siren
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until somebody makes an AI lawyer 😉

deep berry
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Chatgpt8 will be

forest apex
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I read a tweet that said chatgpt had passed the bar exam with %75... Lehto's law covered it, had another video about a robotic lawyer

fervent thunder
forest apex
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yea that one. imagine the api costs though

deep berry
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I am a physical artist myself. I feel the hurt somewhat, but most digital artwork isn't 100% the same as original art. Only a splice of it inserted.

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Hence the likeness involved

forest apex
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I too hated when they went from percussion instruments to samplers..... oh boy

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there's like no real drummers anymore

deep berry
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Until they sue themselves first for stealing the likeness of other painters worldwide in 1800s etc...they have no lawful claims to stand

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My two cents...my apologies if I ranted

forest apex
prisma pulsar
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Idiots the lot of them

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Greedy vultures

deep berry
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Yeah that's why the case will fail

prisma pulsar
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Clutching their pearls because they feel their stick figure art is worth millions

deep berry
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Lol

forest apex
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this... 21st century rendition... of an anime character I didn't invent...

deep berry
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They are mostly displeased because they can't compete with imagination online

prisma pulsar
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I had to learn how to do art myself because the amount that artists wanted for a graphic novel was out of this world. £200 for a drawing. And then their art was never consistent. They never had the eye for detail (well the artists i employed anyways) So I just did it myself.

deep berry
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As I said. I can draw myself too. But more leaning towards the digital aspect now.

prisma pulsar
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Same. I've taught myself but AI has actually helped with technique

deep berry
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I went to DeVry University

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And studied all classes. 3d max, FlashMX , all sorts of stuff

prisma pulsar
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Nice. I bet that was eye opening for technique

deep berry
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Yeah I still use flash here and there. The home page of South Park being created on

outer crescent
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roughly, in man hours, few hundred?

prisma pulsar
# outer crescent how long did it take you to learn?

5 years but digital art has been roughly 2 years and AI has helped massively contribute to technique by going over it instead of stock references. No longer need those training wheels but I still like using parts of AI for things I can't draw like objects mostly

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Actually painting Warhammer helped massively with blending techniques in my art

bleak matrix
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Good afternoon, guys

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How's everyone?

outer crescent
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hi sunny

forest apex
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afternoon? good morning 🙂

bleak matrix
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I wish my stick figures were worth millions lmao

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oh, morning

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you're right

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IT'S NOT PAST TWELVE

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shame me

outer crescent
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its 3pm

bleak matrix
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it's 10 here

outer crescent
nova pagoda
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Hello everyone. Can I get some guidance on what channel I should start in? I am the founder and executive director of a nonprofit substance use disorders and mental health treatment center. I am hoping to get an ai chat that can be the copilot of my therapists. Many of the clients have homelessness in common.

bleak matrix
prisma pulsar
naive aspen
prisma pulsar
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I mean I've been writing all of my life. It's unrealistic to say that I should expect millions for my work when majority of writers have to release their books to no audience and for free via Kindle

outer crescent
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expecting, asking and getting are 3 different things. you SHOULD know how much time something takes and the value of your time though.

nova pagoda
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I was hoping to connect with others that might be interested in a similar concept so that we can support each other. The tool would be focused on keeping to the treatment plan, goals, objectives...help with note taking during and after sessions

prisma pulsar
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Its not realistic to expect 200 for a drawing that isn't consistent and in polite words, "trash"

naive aspen
prisma pulsar
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It should be its not reality so you must adapt or starve

naive aspen
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If you want a professional you have to pay their bills

prisma pulsar
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lol idealism

nova pagoda
# bleak matrix What are you looking to accomplish?

I was hoping to connect with others that might be interested in a similar concept so that we can support each other. The tool would be focused on keeping to the treatment plan, goals, objectives...help with note taking during and after sessions

prisma pulsar
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I did hire a professional and they draw inconsistent terrible drawings that didn't fit the narrative. Yet they had a great portfolio. Why? Because a majority of artists aren't consistent with their work

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That's just a bitter pill to swallow

outer crescent
astral goblet
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A lot of etsy and commissioned artists actually steal work for their portfolio too

naive aspen
prisma pulsar
naive aspen
bleak matrix
prisma pulsar
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No one is saying £20. I'm saying they have to be reasonable. Maybe charge a lump sum for the project instead of £200 for every single drawing

nova pagoda
prisma pulsar
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And finding artists that are consistent and reasonable was impossible and so AI does have its place

nova pagoda
outer crescent
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well theres going to be horse trading i guess. you can't ask for a lump sum for a project unless you know exactly what the project is and how much time it will take

prisma pulsar
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Majority of artists arent earning because they over estimate their own value

upbeat birch
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Hey @wise stratus, fellow techie here, and I've got a question now that there's two lawsuits against SD.

How come all of history and all of the public domain wasn't good enough for you (and your training)? Why did you have to go and screw this up by mixing copyright up into this?

Sorry not sorry for being a hardass, but this looks like a bad design decision out the gate to me, unless there's something you're not telling everyone. Did your team do Risk Management AT ALL before releasing this product into the world?

I see you have the time to post here, so silence will tell all.

naive aspen
outer crescent
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no so much a question, more a heckle into the abyss, tbh

prisma pulsar
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When you're idealistic like that you haven't got eye for consistency and so your art will be all over the place. It will take longer, you'll procrastinate. And in general its just not worth the money they ask.

upbeat birch
prisma pulsar
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And we are talking your average artist

forest apex
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I don't think this is about copyright, on the surface maybe, but there is much more to this which is why the lawsuits will fail, it is just the first angle of attack

prisma pulsar
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Why not agree to a lump sum and royalties for a project, why per drawing is ridiculous

outer crescent
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@upbeat birch note this isn't a private conversation and note lol. ok rando.

prisma pulsar
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And thus is why AI will replace you

bleak matrix
# nova pagoda I have not used it at all. Www.stateoftheheartrecovery.com is focused on bringin...

I recommend that you first start with learning more about Stable Diffusion. You can start more with checking out my WIP Friendly guide here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aHJ9RBt_vlCwJQBVUUsb7VghKB-wynv7WGTxm9ozL1k/edit#heading=h.uh133k3c2aq You can test SD here in chat using the bot, as well as on Dreamstudio.

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naive aspen
astral goblet
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there's a reason that a lot of people in the industry just don't like hiring artists. I think it's a good thing that frustrated creatives don't have to pay con artists (heh pun) that produce sub par work outside of the commissioned style, because that artist was misrpresenting themselves.

i commissioned some fiction once, a scifi short for a project i was doing. The artist had a good portfolio of work to show, but the commissioned peice was a generic story thhat had no tone or anything to do with the subject i wanted. Like they just copied some boiler plate story. I paid $300 for that first draft and they stopped messaging me after i mentioned it had nothing too do with the subject i commissioned. I felt absolutley fleeced and woudln't consider hiring an independent artist that loosely again. I'd need some kind of reputable trust beyond a portfolio.

the jagged little pill that's hard to swallow is professional artists generally are slimey little thieves. The good ones are few and far between. AI art is going to bring a lot of healthy disruption to those economies

bleak matrix
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To get more of a feel for how it might help you.

upbeat birch
forest apex
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hello human artist

prisma pulsar
forest apex
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I too am a fellow human

outer crescent
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dude

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fiverr

upbeat birch
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When questions offend you, you should look inward.

outer crescent
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cmon man

nova pagoda
naive aspen
prisma pulsar
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Doesn't matter where you find your artists. I mean if they put the effort in and experience they have to be worth it according to you

astral goblet
prisma pulsar
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Some artists are effectively out of my price range and thats why I learned myself. Just the reality

forest apex
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hey we are all human artists here

outer crescent
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on fiverr you're more likely to get someone to fart the national anthem in a bathtub of baked beans than a serious illustrator

prisma pulsar
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Sounds very elitist

naive aspen
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Its true though

outer crescent
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youre complaining about price and quality. that is not a place to find quality

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your average fiverr request

prisma pulsar
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Yes absolutely, you will pay more for quality and that price is out of my budget

naive aspen
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Plus everyone on fiverr is jaded about fiverr taking over half their earnings

prisma pulsar
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When the artists are out of your budget you make the art yourself

naive aspen
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Then the tax man comes aswel

forest apex
prisma pulsar
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and people will use AI so the artist shouldn't moan about that

outer crescent
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what are the stages of getting a graphic novel made anyway? do you provide character concept sheets, storyboards etc?

naive aspen
astral goblet
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i've said it for years now. artists, commissioned and independent ones too, should have a big union. not just to protect themselves, but to ensure quality of production and trust of the economy

outer crescent
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or is it like "dude has big ginger hair and 4 arms, go draw him fighting an alien"

fervent thunder
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everyone should have a big union. middle class dumb asses who think management is ever going to look out for them deserve the misery they end with

astral goblet
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but artists refuse to unionize at all. there's very little effort there. and the market doesn't wanna put up with their shit much longer. when better tools appear, that's where the market will naturally shift

prisma pulsar
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Yup the market will naturally shift. The artists who demand more worth well they will attract the bigger budgets I'm sure so what's the issue

outer crescent
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wait so youre not even writing your graphic novel yourself? or doing the graphic part? and you're down £15k? this is a strange venture

fervent thunder
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thats because we've lived in two era in the us, the fdr labor era and we've been in the trickle down reagan era since 1983 or whenever he broke the air traffic unions and started the domnioes falling. now people are happy to not organize and clap like a seal for their bosses bosses boss to get another tax cut

prisma pulsar
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The manuscript was done over a ten year period. It's already done. Are you an idiot?

astral goblet
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storyboards are a motion creative approach. great for animations and movie shots. comics/graphic novels though, they're sort of inherently a story board

outer crescent
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yes, i am but thats besides the point

prisma pulsar
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I mean why be here if you hate AI so much

astral goblet
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The matrix storyboard is a comic for instance

outer crescent
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i dont hate AI at all, you're bemoaning people on fiverr being shite for the money they charge. and you're down a lot of money.

prisma pulsar
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I'm done with this retard

outer crescent
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k

prisma pulsar
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Most artists I have hired haven't been consistent. Artstation isn't the exception 🤣 The guy goes on about one example of Fiverr and thinks all the work has been employed on there. I can't even deal with these dummies

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AI will replace the need for half baked artists and I can't wait

naive aspen
outer crescent
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other than literally the link to the fiverr art

prisma pulsar
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Do you see the use of AI and why it will replace majority of half baked artists?

naive aspen
outer crescent
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no, they'll just become half baked prompters doing shitty art twice as fast

prisma pulsar
naive aspen
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Long term

astral goblet
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some people just want to tear down creative efforts. you've invested a lot of money and that's a big sand castle that appeals to the stompy stompers. i would go with your last gut reaction and stop engaging

prisma pulsar
naive aspen
prisma pulsar
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I will wake up to my AI alarm clock, to have my ai make my breakfast and listen to the ai weather and news. And call my AI friend to see how they doing

outer crescent
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I'd listen to flowwolf tbh

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good luck anyway

prisma pulsar
astral goblet
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i generally only share my throw away creative efforts here. i wouldn't ever give any details about ongoing project that i'm pouring my creative energy into. too many people are so quick to dump a turd on those efforts. keep those cards close to your chest

naive aspen
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You cant monopolize a hobby

prisma pulsar
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I can understand an artist with a particular style being copied. Depends on the artist though artgerm is flattered by AI

upbeat birch
thorn patio
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It's a tool and lots of artists are already using it. 90% of the people who complain about it definitely have never used it. Without doing a ton of editing the images don't come out right. To completely replace artists it would would need to go from the 480P it is now to 4k. It can't draw hands, or do poses, or do lighting properly, or tons of other things.

naive aspen
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Id say it is a honor to be cemented in the history of art by being forever mentioned

upbeat birch
prisma pulsar
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game designers have been using it for a long time even if they won't admit it

forest apex
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well DHCP owns my IP so idk who I should talk to, maybe my ISP

naive aspen
astral goblet
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Fair use allows for parody right? in some cases. There's a lot of grey space there. So much that Weird Al makes an ethical choice to seek permission for every song he parodies.

That level of ethical creativity won't change going forward. Laws or otherwise.

outer crescent
prisma pulsar
naive aspen
forest apex
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I'm sorry but reacting to your own statements doesn't make them any more profound ....

outer crescent
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😉

prisma pulsar
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Yup there's a lot of automation that these screechers take for granted

astral goblet
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gearbox ripped off the borderlands art style from a short animation. Greasy story there.

forest apex
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actually it kinda does, apparently someone thinks my last statement garnered a strong arm emoji, sick

astral goblet
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https://youtu.be/OmeP1YkaeTo codehunters, the OG borderlands. They never paid the guy for his style at all. legally they don't but it's greasy and unethical still imo

outer crescent
forest apex
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and since theres no kink shaming anymore, that is also sick

void kite
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yo

naive aspen
forest apex
naive aspen
forest apex
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if we took a few drops from that lake we could cool the steam coming off of ... some peoples keyboards..

keen hemlock
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How do people get such insane images with prompts 😮

twilit python
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Hello

keen hemlock
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I'm literally staring at them and just flipping out

forest apex
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@keen hemlock I think some people are born with it. I've been doing this for months and my images are just so so. Some people just have the knack....

twilit python
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Is possible to use stable diffusion to upgrade arts?

astral goblet
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might just be projection. hedonists are actually a vocal minority. "entire servers" are like 5 active people each with a couple alts

forest apex
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well, there are almost 3000 people on this one anti ai discord i'm on

astral goblet
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again, user counts don't really matter for niche discord servers like that. they're probably fluffing it up a lot.

potent spire
outer crescent
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😛

forest apex
potent spire
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up

astral goblet
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it's how it's been forever. newsgroups > irc > myspace > facebook > discord. people will do social manipulation. it even extends back before the internet

potent spire
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Can you inv me?

forest apex
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its pretty depressing, ngl

outer crescent
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astroturfing is the term

potent spire
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I mean server member numbers arent saying much alone

thorn patio
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public relations

potent spire
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Same applies to this server too

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1 million members doesnt say that much

astral goblet
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it's A term, but it was more applicable in the late 90s when astro turf sucked more. it's actually a higher grade product than most lawns are these days, and lawns are actually an invasive ecosystem that shouldn't exist too.

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i kind of hate the astorturf metaphor since that entire lawn industry is dumb

outer crescent
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i cant wait for AI music to get as much in the public eye as images and chatgpt. you think photographers and artists are angsty? 😄

forest apex
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can't wait, riffusion is pretty cool right now

keen hemlock
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I caused chat GPT to glitch out today and write a 100 word erotica post 😄

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Let's just say my twitter users were hyped Hahaha

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*followers

astral goblet
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riffusion is cool and neat but is absolutely really bad music. like cutting up a record and pasting it all back together in different pieces. its a cool technique that does produce some rhythm sections but.. they're slopping. i don't think it'll ever get better on their methodology. audio to spectrograph and then training that data set.

forest apex
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maybe, yea. but I've heard some interesting combinations that were definitely inspiring, if one was looking for a new sound

outer crescent
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i'd have thought they'd have taken the musical notation angle first rather than estimating a long noise

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but then daws can p much compose by themselves now

astral goblet
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"heyyyy thats a neat sound in that one" ... turns out it's just canon in D

outer crescent
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everything is canon in D, its the tastes like chicken of western music

astral goblet
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chicken goooood

forest apex
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speaking of... brb

outer crescent
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(terbo is clearly going to take pachelbels canon out of the oven)

forest apex
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brined in pickle juice. mmmmm m

livid flint
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how i can use the ia?

forest apex
fervent thunder
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https://youtu.be/2ityl_dNRNw
In this video, instead of training a model with someone's face, an embed is trained, is that good? Is there much difference between the two methods?

forest apex
fervent thunder
drifting jetty
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Hey whats the best channel for help debugging the deforum notebook?

candid crow
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Is there anything like the new blend option in midjourney in stable diffusion yet?

forest apex
silver wigeon
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I'm about to get a new Macbook Pro with the aim of running SD locally, any tips of what I should think about? How much RAM should I go for for example?

candid crow
karmic stratus
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Hello. I'm about to reinstall SD on a new machine, is Automatic1111 still the best interface? Its been 2 months since I last used it

forest apex
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@silver wigeon I don't think mac's run SD very well. GPU limitations, VRAM, RAM isn't that important

candid crow
forest apex
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the machine you run a collab on is not related to the generation speed

silver wigeon
candid crow
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And is colab safe? (Nothing breaks the rule, but concerned about if there's any copyright concern)

forest apex
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you are better off using a free online generator until you're absolutely certain you want to buy new hardware for that.

candid crow
silver wigeon
forest apex
silver wigeon
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Ok thanks!

bright cradle
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Who's the best anime artist beside sir makato

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Help pl

near falcon
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Guys why does inpaint not fix deformed eyes and mouth ??

forest apex
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@near falcon try using negative prompts, I like using bad_prompt_version2 and also NegMutation, which are embeddings available on huggingface

near falcon
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I already do use negative propmts but still not much use. Havent used others though

forest apex
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between that and face restoration it should fix the initial generation

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for pictures those embeddings do pretty well, but for drawings or more abstract things they can have unexpected results. I have a pretty long list of negative prompts if you want

near falcon
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ya give it to me 😀

gleaming topaz
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does anyone what prompt i need to write to always get a white background?

ive tried putting white background, solid white background, etc but no luck

forest apex
near falcon
gleaming topaz
near falcon
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did u tried white backgorund in brackets ((white background))

gleaming topaz
still remnant
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Otherwise you could try an image editor to make an img to img template, paint in black in the approximate shape of what you want (soft brushes seem to work best), leave the background white, and prompt from img to img, I've had good luck that way.

loud torrent
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Hi folks, I have a question : I want to create a .ckpt of humpback whales - so I'm collecting lots of images... my question is - as they are quite complex to model ( you can basically look at them not only from a universal angle, but also they do things like jumping out of the water etc ) - what would be the best way to build a model regarding instances, and regularisation images? - Do i need to create more than one model focussing on each behaviour?

old marten
digital aspen
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Anyone got the link where u get daily coins ?

signal nest
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I'd imagine models branching like a tree.. "vehicles model" ->{"sportscar model", "trucks model",...}. "sealife model" ->{whales model, dolphin model etc,...}

onyx vale
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Just got back to SD since I saw that you can use custom models now. I was wondering if there is a platform where you can just upload a bunch of images and it will create a custom model for you? I'm looking for a simple no-code solution to creating models. Are we there yet for this type of feature?

https://textual-inversion.github.io/

river maple
onyx vale
earnest flame
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Hey is the SD subreddit down?

warm junco
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@earnest flame loads for me

earnest flame
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Idk why randomly it said u can't view this subreddit I haven't even posted anything

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Nvm it's back

fervent thunder
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Has anyone tried Riffusion

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Its a cool text to music ai

dry trellis
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I could see using it for video game music for indie projects

fervent thunder
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I recommended it to my friend who makes games.

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Might help him

vapid berry
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Is 2.1 the current latest version of SD?

warm junco
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Yes

untold moss
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Can I download stable-diffusion-webui on an external hard drive? Will it work? Or does it need to be on a internal hard drive?

brittle fractal
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btw, has anyone had succes converting a dreamlike model into an inpainting model? because my add sum seems to not work

Loading weights [35a69853e2] from C:\stable-diffusion\stabledifv2\stable-diffusion-webui\models\Stable-diffusion\dreamshaper-inpainting.ckpt
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    model.load_state_dict(sd, strict=False)
  File "C:\stable-diffusion\stabledifv2\stable-diffusion-webui\venv\lib\site-packages\torch\nn\modules\module.py", line 1671, in load_state_dict
    raise RuntimeError('Error(s) in loading state_dict for {}:\n\t{}'.format(
RuntimeError: Error(s) in loading state_dict for LatentDiffusion:
        size mismatch for model.diffusion_model.input_blocks.0.0.weight: copying a param with shape torch.Size([320, 9, 3, 3]) from checkpoint, the shape in current model is torch.Size([320, 4, 3, 3]).```
untold moss
brittle fractal
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ok aparently the in the chekcpoint merge, you have to select "don't" instead "a,b, or c"

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thanks to a random reddit post that saved my life

brittle fractal
untold moss
brittle fractal
still remnant
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for example, my model folder is over 130GB

untold moss
untold moss
cobalt cape
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👋

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Emad talks about having a real time model

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In his talk with Peter Diamandis

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Where is this real-time model now

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And how do I get there

waxen swallow
cobalt cape
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Thanks

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But why not :S

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Why so secret

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Why not OPEN

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@wise stratus we need the real-time model, ser

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Loved the interview btw

wise stratus
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Being tuned some moar

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Plus some other models and stuff

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Be done when done ✅

ornate dawn
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u.u getting anxious about it

wise stratus
cobalt cape
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Thanks for the response! I’m very excited.

winter pike
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SD feels like Skyrim in the sense that is very mod friendly and theres a whole community uploading daily custom content

dry trellis
forest apex
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anyone used mix1009's webuiapi? I've made a command line script to access the automatic1111 api for txt2img for it

cobalt cape
inland dagger
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hey all, I'm casually seeking a potential cofounder or contract hire for https://saipien.org

It is a site dedicated to creating a collection of fictional news headlines with an emphasis on our relationship with advancing tech. The discord server allows users to play with some AI tools with custom prompts. The next iteration is a library of tools accessible to non tech people via the web. Akin to lensa or writesonic but with a consumer entertainment focus. Please dm if it sounds of interest.

elder kraken
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Yoyo, anyone know what libs I'd use to turn images into vector representation for a custom image-2-image search?

astral goblet
split urchin
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Any idea when you folks planning to bring back online?

lavish current
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The cloud model I'm using is busy tonight 😩

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This thing is helping me a lot with the childen's book I'm making

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I took a lot at AIbooru out of curiosity

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Right now I'm just following AI accounts on IG mostly

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I kind of prefer Prompt Search over booru so far

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Lexica is okay too

elfin maple
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Hi everyone, where should I post general questions about SD....???

timber dock
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AI music when

astral goblet
native dagger
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Hi folks, today I couldn't run SD and kept getting this error:
AttributeError: 'Dropdown' object has no attribute 'multiselect'

Anyone else has the same issue?

candid crow
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Hi, noob question, do I have to make a copy and rename a new yaml file every time I download a new model?

signal nest
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r.e. scenario.gg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt7juTL3vcE looks interesting. Q1: anyone know where they got the data for their default generators - i'm assuming these are all stable diffusion finetunes. Q2: do you think people like this will be affected by any negative rulings if courts go against Stability.AI (eg the getty case more specifically). Personally I think the original training data is so diluted anyway.. but once it been finetuned would that convince more people that its not "IP theft"? diluting the original influence twice.

astral goblet
candid crow
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Thank you!

elder cradle
# candid crow Thank you!

The main rule of thumb of all 2.x-derived models: Download the .yaml file, with the same name as the model, but .ckpt(or .safetensors) replaced with .yaml

past robin
proud nova
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What do you think about this tool?

slender kraken
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Hi team,

Just a quick one, not sure if its a easy answer.

When training your own face on dreambooth. And the results are subpar when prompting. Out of 50 images generated, 1 looks good, the rest are either pixelated, looks very over saturated, nothing like the image requested etc

How do you know when a result is overtrained vs undertrained.

i tried the x100 rule. So with 30 images, i did 3000 steps. Just not sure if i should up the steps, or reduce

wide juniper
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Is there any way to get img2img to retain the dimensions by default, instead of 512x512? I'm so sick of adjusting the dimensions to match th image I threw in every single time

outer crescent
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that's be a nice tickbox, wouldnt it?

undone marsh
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Does anyone know when the DreamStudio Pro release will happen? Emad said it would be this month. Anyone has some information about it? Appreciate

hushed sapphire
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Hi everyone ☺️

fervent thunder
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hello

outer crescent
undone marsh
outer crescent
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"when the DreamStudio Pro release will happen? Emad said it would be this month. "

potent star
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hey!

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How many of you use classification images when training new models? Is it a big difference if I don't?

abstract pivot
lofty parcel
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I keep calling the realtime model Turbo Diffusion

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Maybe that's actually what it's called and I forgor 💀

wide juniper
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In img2img, is latent noise the same as higher denoising strength?

unreal eagle
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did the 98% booster get released yet

onyx wave
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where should I report (potentially serious) problems with rendered image of 2.1 version?

outer crescent
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whats the issue?

onyx wave
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given a prompt, faces in randomly rendered images are extremely similar.

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according to python face_recognition the first three women are the same woman

outer crescent
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well yeah, if you dont specify something you'll get generic, especially on the same seed. same for poses

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we need to start giving these weird little souls that keep cropping up names.

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could be a whole pantheon

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change the seed in each?

onyx wave
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I disagree. even if you specify a seed, clearly each rendering takes a different denoising trajectory (otherwise all 4 images will be identical since that is the point of a seed) - I also assume the first noisy image in each rendering is also different

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so the seed has nothing to do with it.

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also, I was in error - turns out that according to python face_recognition module (default 0.5 threshold) all 4 women are the same woman

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not just the first 3

unreal eagle
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=/

vast relic
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hey, somebody knows how many parameters are in the stable-diffusion 2.1 model?

onyx wave
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By going over the dreambot history it is easy to find other such cases. here are some examples in which the faces look very similar across a multi-rendered prompt - though I did not bother to check it with a face recognition algorithm:

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it looks like a weird serious problem

outer crescent
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i promise you this is a known thing and how people keep faces they like. now if the prompt or resolution change then the face will too, but you should realistically get the same-ish face 100 times from the same prompt and seed, just with different angles, lighting, poses

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but it interests you so investigate away, see if you can find patterns and the like, you might actually unearth some quirks or nuances

main sparrow
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the longer and more specific your prompt is and higher your cfg scale, the less variance there will be in things.

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some of those prompts get pretty specific.

outer crescent
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there has to be a sweet spot between tokens and cfg scale. like i feel it could be graphed somehow

lavish current
outer crescent
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something other than formant

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i mean like human vocal sounds but not like everyones fav blue haired animu

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that alone would be handy as most of my own musical daw doodles could often do with a vocal sound layer, hell even a cough or two would be fine 🙂

stable pawn
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Hello, I'm rather new here and with SD so I hope some can point in right direction. I like SD 1.5 when it came to realistic interior, furniture and room styling, but SD 2.1 lack in that area and is more aimed towards humans (according to me), so is there any model checkpoint trained on RL interior design and architecture?

near falcon
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Is to possible to determine which model was used to genrate image. I forgot the model i used for some of my images and wana replicate it again

outer crescent
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i can eyeball a good few yeah

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if you give me the prompt

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unless its a blend

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but also the model's hash is saved in the file itself

near falcon
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I can give u the file ??

outer crescent
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sure

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though most uploading kinda strips exif

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stick it in a zip, send it in dms

warm junco
near falcon
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whats PNG info ?/

warm junco
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A tool in the Automatic1111 webui

outer crescent
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yeah im not doing that again, that was a bit nsfw that image and model. gonna go take a shower

somber sand
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any devs with strong experience in AI / ML who are looking to build cool shit, feel free to hmu in the dms

stable pawn
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Define "cool shit" as work description.

fervent thunder
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lol yeah little vague there

stable pawn
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I once worked on "Cool shit", but it gave less pay than working with "Neat stuff".

somber sand
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it was more in reference to trying to get to know people who are interested in the space and potential applications of AI(99% of the time nothing much happens thru discord but its a fun way to explore new ideas + meet like minded people)

outer crescent
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always found it strange when people pop in and ask for DMs

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but yeah just lurk here, especially the discussion channels

brittle fractal
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has anyone had any success with character consistency when you only have 1 starting image? dreambooth /TI / fine tunning all requires a substancial amount of pictures of the individual. is there any paper /github etc that would allow me to change the pose of a single image?

sleek osprey
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DOes anyone know the midjourney model size (parameters)?

warm junco
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mdjrnyv4 style or mdjrny style

sleek osprey
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what?

warm junco
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Oh you mean the size xD i tought the token

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Its like 4gb

sleek osprey
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how do you know?

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Im talking about midjourney not openjourney btw

warm junco
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You mean the offical one ?

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Then idk

floral umbra
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Hoi, do you guys know of a SD fork that works on amd gpu's and linux apart from automatic1111? Can't get it to work on my steam deck lol

zenith shore
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Hey I'm looking to get started and install the latest version of SD locally, any help appreciated!goodjob

warm junco
outer crescent
outer crescent
zenith shore
last pilot
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HELLO

outer crescent
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hi

floral umbra
warm junco
floral umbra
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Hmm indeed

warm junco
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use the exe if possible

thorn hare
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hm there now seems to be a preview feature on when generating, any way to turn it off ?

warm junco
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@thorn hare yea under settings, live preview, steps slider to 0

thorn hare
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thx

keen wagon
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Hi, are there any image to sound models out there to try, like on Colab? not music, but ambient sounds

outer crescent
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you can set it to cheap preview too, so you can sorta see what its doing. handy if youre firing off a long run

outer magnet
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Could someone recommend the best guide for installing SD with Google Colab? I don't have the hardware to run locally and believe this is the best solution? If there is any better way than I am open to other suggestions. The simpler to set-up the better! Thanks

outer crescent
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well i linked a painless guide a earlier, not google colab tho

outer magnet
outer crescent
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well yeah, sorry, go with google collab stuff

upbeat birch
upbeat birch
exotic oracle
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how do you base a generation off an image? I know using midjourney you just paste an image link then write your prompt immeidately afterwards

outer crescent
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you could try something more coherent than "heh, nobody answered, gottem" stuff you know

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like whats your actual complaint?

upbeat birch
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@outer crescent more like, questioning into, alas, not an abyss, but to the person who owns this.

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I'm a proponent of responsibility in business. Don't shoot the messenger.

upbeat birch
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Users of SD have an interest in understanding this.

outer coral
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Hi, I'm new to the community, I want to ask something, can anyone help me ?

gritty dagger
golden copper
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I installed stable diffusion yesterday but i dont know how to open it, can someone help me?

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i opened yesterday but idk how to open it today

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idk if its by cmd or clicking something

little plaza
signal nest
barren river
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i dont understand why people cant differentiate between stolen art style and using ai for creating references for a moodboard, by this logic, nobody is allowed to use any references from any artist for their portfolio work either. Its 2 different things but people react the same.
I understand that the artists dont like when their art is used to create artworks based on their style and is sold as not theirs, even tho the work looks almost the same, but nobody ever asked for crediting ALL the art references when creating an environment scene. Its broken logic.

signal nest
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the art theft argument is used to make the case against it popular, the real issue is fear of job loss IMO.

barren river
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I used AI to create references mixed with real references, for a mood board for my scene im planning to, but this is apparently not allowed and is frowned up very hard.

barren river
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without the artists I wouldnt have references, since ai can take their place and i use it to create refs, i basically dont need the artists, but ai wont work without real artists, so its just a support, im not sure i can follow?

signal nest
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AI could be trained purely on photos IMO, and cheap amateur sketches to give extra context

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you could run NPR painting filters on photos to give additional styles

barren river
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lets say an artist makes great works but has only a few camera angles, I want to see how a balcony would look in his style, but he doesnt provide one, so i create same reference with a balcony, the credit goes 100% to the artist because i wanted to use his great work as a reference for inspiration but i wasnt able to integrate balcony, whats wrong with that`?

river maple
barren river
dapper island
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Just created a youtube channel about short stories created by AI. Can I Post the link ?

river maple
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Yes

barren river
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i get the problem, ofcourse, im not stupid, but hating for all the different aspects is same as hating cars just cause people get hit by them. (besides pollution)

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there must be a solution :/

signal nest
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imagine if everyone who wants an AI art generator started contributing free photos to public repositories - the amount of safe training material would increase. I've been contributing to someones's CC0 labelled dataset for years (i shared that project here a few times). I look at this as an opensource 'trade'.. you put some work in sharing photos and doing annotations - you get back a free art generator. It's just there's no accounting for that trade. but the economics are there. if a million people use an art generator and they all contribute 1000 well-labelld photos, the art generator is 'paid for' fair and square.

river maple
barren river
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so basically using AI for references and inspiration and not 1:1 copy is a side effect which people for some reason cant distinguish?
Option A: I go to google and search for space stations, i copy 100 images to my reference board and create my own space station in blender and unreal, based on those references from google. That is something everyone does and all is good!
Option B: I go to AI and generate space stations, i copy 100 images to my reference board and create my own space station in blender and unreal based on those references from AI. Its the same. In both cases nobody expects credits because you cannot credit 300+ images on a mood and ref board. Since its just inspiration. Im utterly confused by this. 🤯

signal nest
# barren river so basically using AI for references and inspiration and not 1:1 copy is a side ...

right I'd use this argument aswell - the extent to which the material is diluted. The neural net uses copyright material, but in 2billion images, each one's influence is diluted so far. Hence my suggestion. Get proactive submitting photos , increase the dilution factor. There must surely be a million people in the world who can use an art generator. Getting 1 billion free photos within a few months should be doable.

naive aspen
signal nest
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so much sci-fi material would be possible through style transfer. I remember seeing documentaries where they designed star wars spaceships by taking the shapes of domestic objects lmao (cloud city police vehicles = 2 hair dryers etc )

barren river
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People need to stop using "by x artist" ect. let it do its work and mix it up. It literally is the same as I manually search for refs and create my own style based on X refs. Its all the same: innovation.
But the concern about jobs i understand fully, specially concept artist are basically at stake.

signal nest
barren river
naive aspen
signal nest
# naive aspen Low quality yeah

they dont need to be high quality. just label them appropriately. "poor light, <whatever it is>". ALL photos contribute to understanding of shapes and context.

naive aspen
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Regular photos arent the issue though

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Its like paintings and drawings

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There are already unlimited photos out there

signal nest
naive aspen
barren river
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i mean maybe Im using references wrong? Cuase i take any picture if its what Im looking for an head is empty, photos or paintings, ref is ref. Unless using artwork which was based on photo is already wrong and nobody does that. I dont think so.

signal nest
# naive aspen That shouldnt run into IP trouble

people who are opposed to Stable Diffusion itself are still opposed to people like me using "img2img" to add photoreal texture to my own drawings. because of course.. it increases the amount of artwork in the world, and dilutes the value of theirs

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so the fact that the model has the IP problems in it lets them use that as an argument against my activity.

naive aspen
naive aspen
signal nest
barren river
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we need to use AI to solve the problems with AI, great x)

naive aspen
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The tool is decentralized

signal nest
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we still need someone to host it in repos to distribute I think , there's a lot that can go wrong with version sync

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places like github and huggingface - it would be far harder for the community to operate without those

barren river
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so what now? My reference board is mixed between real works and AI works which i had to generate cause I didnt find ANY references. Some genres are so rare that only AI was able to help because there were literally no good refs or anything close to what I imagined. Nobody got hurt. Cant I upload the moodboard to my portfolio anymore because of this? Its insane.

naive aspen
river maple
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GitTorrent

signal nest
fervent thunder
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im almost happy with what we got now

signal nest
naive aspen
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I use art to clarify a story so it doesnt matter if its ai or not

signal nest
fervent thunder
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I put more effort into my ai stuff then most hobbie artists

naive aspen
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The audience arent artists

signal nest
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img2img has encouraged me to put far more effort into art yes. i used to draw a lot earlier in life - gave up as an adult as I couldn't do it professionally. but I could draw reasonably well.

barren river
# signal nest yeah when its publically shared.. you'll have to read the room. the art communit...

i figured :/ thats why im asking before sharing, its insane, i have a good idea for a scene and didnt find references AT ALL, used AI and my vision explained = generated, almost exactly as i IMAGINED IT with my brain, just cant draw. And people will point fingers. Funny. But Nope, I support AI in this case because my idea gets supressed. I cant agree.
Ofcourse without AI it would be paying a concept artist and explaining them what I want, but this is long and expensive for someone who is actually trying to get a job to have money to be able to pay them 😕

naive aspen
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I dont like how img2img radicly changes everything

fervent thunder
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if I have an idea and model a scene in 3d for a month or I use ai to create it in a day with a nice chat gpt story on top and multiple veriations I dont see the difference

signal nest
barren river
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truly sad times xD

naive aspen
fervent thunder
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theoretically I can do better then ai in 3d but for what ? im not a professional anymore I do it for fun whats the point of working months on an image that maybe what 5000 ppl see and maybe 2% care

signal nest
signal nest
naive aspen
naive aspen
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So it blurts out abstract lines

signal nest
signal nest
fervent thunder
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whats the highest you guys go in resolution ?

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it seems like SD is really strugling above 1600px all kinds of wird stuff happening the pictures actually seem to get worse

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I get huge golum eyes detail is removed etc

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maybe its just my settings cant find anything about it online a artical about how resolution effects the generation process would be nice

upbeat birch
upbeat birch
signal nest
fringe furnace
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criar gato

signal nest
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i'm even wondering if the opensourcing is a bunch of super-rich people making a form of pennance for inequality.. (whatever it is, i'm not complaining , the model is awesome)

fervent thunder
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google and nvidia waiting for all this to sattle before dropping bomb

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wouldnt be suprised if google put a dreamup button under the search bar

timber dock
signal nest
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1min i'll find some examples

timber dock
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There was that one case of someone using ai to finish someone’s sketch before them

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As horrible as that was I think being able to render a sketch would be nice

fervent thunder
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I made a test months ago in img2img where I wanted to see how good the ai was at making a badly made image I drew into something better. It was quite good. Oh, and when I say "badly made image I drew," then what I really mean is "the quality I'm able to draw as I got the shakiest hands in the world."
I need to call the news to tell them it's not a earthquake, but me trying to draw a circle :P

green thistle
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how do i create a logo for a site?

gentle blaze
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I want to make a DnD map, has any one here done that yet, its my first project so im just looking for good places to start.

cloud granite
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This is the first time I found this server today

fervent thunder
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we need a new model

fervent thunder
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I am doing a project for my illustration class and I have to explain what is Sampling method, Sampling steps, CDF Scale, how would you explain it?

shell sluice
lime violet
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It seems like even with the hires-fix on Auto1111 it's still generating a lot of doubles of everything at high resolution, just me doing it wrong?

fervent thunder
golden copper
#

Guys if i train my own face to stable diffusion can someone else with another pc use my model too or access it?

fervent thunder
golden copper
signal nest
fervent thunder
ebon pewter
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what is Eta noise seed delta default value? i messed up and forgot

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is it 0 or 1?

fervent thunder
golden copper
zealous wedge
jaunty hazel
#

I have noticed that I can't seem to download pngs from the A1111 image folders from onedrive onto my phone. Is this common?

river maple
forest apex
golden copper
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ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'safetensors.safetensors_rust'

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whats happening?

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i cant open stable diffusion after i restart my computer

golden copper
candid crow
#

How do I check if a model is a Stable Diffusion 2.0 + and needs a yaml file if it wasn't specified? Will it still run normally?

gentle knoll
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Hey guys I am trying stable diffusion for the first time and all my people are coming out deformed looking

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Lol what am I doing wrong it’s freaking me the f out

astral goblet
lavish current
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@gentle knoll Negative prompts and (supposedly) inpainting helps

deft badge
topaz burrow
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is there any limit to free use?

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How to check the same

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Like how much credit or so left

wheat glade
topaz burrow
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Is there any prompt for checking the credit left

warm junco
proud nova
#

Why is generation on my RX 580 8GB so slow?

cold siren
#

how slow

abstract pivot
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does anyone know exactly whats going on with the 'use old emphasis implementation' in a1111? it's a world of difference in results, i've toyed a bit with prompts using the same seed and trying to workout what it is doing differently but haven't been able to work out what? anyone know?

zealous wedge
proud nova
warm junco
proud nova
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Windows

warm junco
proud nova
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Ah, understood

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I plan to sell it and buy RTX anyway

warm junco
severe field
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had the weirdest dream that i was going to dream alcohol

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but that shit haram

novel mulch
#

So is there a channel where people share prompts?

keen wagon
#

what's the best model right now to create images with words in them?

cobalt cliff
#

hey, is there a good search engine / repo of all stable diffusion models? thank you!

forest apex
#

@keen wagon that is... a very broad question... what type of images? But, IMHO, probably Protogen models

fervent thunder
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we need a new model, something, anything

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its stale diffusion lately imho

severe field
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My pc fighting for its life

astral goblet
fervent thunder
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yeah if thats your thing, i need some new sauce, esp since 2.0 in general was just a dud imho

astral goblet
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naw. it was a pretty big improvement in a lot of areas. the embeds that are trained for 2.x models have such better fidelity and some of them even act like they're a dreambooth model

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one thing you'll find is that prompt styles for 1x won't be as magical for 2x, because 2x uses a new clip model in the training

fervent thunder
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yeah if clip was available locally 2.0/1 might be viewed with a little more grace, but its not unfortunately

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but midjourney keeps outdoing themselves when everyone sneered at it at first, its since left stable in the dust imho

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so they need some hype, because they keep flailing on these 2.0 releaes

forest apex
#

smirks at closed source software

fervent thunder
#

open or closed, proofs in the pudding, sunshine

forest apex
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yea. sure. you think microsoft is big? apple had to co-opt open source software to survive.

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the pudding is stale at this point my man.

fervent thunder
#

has dalle ever updated?

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i dont hear much talk about dalle either it seems these days

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stable pudding is hella moldy i agree

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midjourney keeps pushing updates

forest apex
#

shifted to GPT. but for real, controlled information can't beat open information in terms of innovation, only reach

toxic minnow
#

VAE - If you don't know what this is or why you would want it, don't bother with it.
What is it, and why do I want it?

forest apex
fervent thunder
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some of those 1.5 models def are impressive

forest apex
#

"let the youth fight their own battles, and deal with their own bullies"

astral goblet
# fervent thunder but midjourney keeps outdoing themselves when everyone sneered at it at first, i...

midjourney is just using a refined model. 2.x is a base model. They're also a closed off service that doesn't release their systems, and you have to pay an exoberant fee to use it. When you stop paying, you lose all rights to your work, even previously generated.

This is not the first time you've tried to troll the conversation here by acting like MJ is superior tech. It just shows you have a fundemental misunderstanding of how the tech works.

fervent thunder
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lol try to troll the convo, give me a break

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i guess its not the first time you acted like a sd fanboy then or something. my opinion on midjourney is based off my own eyes

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but i still dont use it because im not going to pay for it

astral goblet
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case in point

fervent thunder
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so no, sorry, im not a mj fanboy, just someone with an opinion

forest apex
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@fervent thunder its all good, all view points are accepted here, because da troof beats the lies, always

fervent thunder
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well said terbo

astral goblet
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your mother should've taught you not to do sarcastic appologies. all they do is make your word untrustworthy. no conviction

fervent thunder
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i dont give a shit if flowwolf doesnt think im being sincere is the thing

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so go talk to your own mamma

astral goblet
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i don't think you're being sincere. just trying to stir

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it's not the first time

forest apex
#

heads to the gas stove to make some popcorns

fervent thunder
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yes, i am starting a convo, saying mj has left stable behind, thats my take

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call it hot or cold, its your choice

astral goblet
#

naw. mj is closed saas. disqualifies it from consideration immediately

fervent thunder
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its not a declaration of war, its just like an opinion maaan

forest apex
#

Chaz: But it hasn't, that is your own perception. Go generate a video with Midjourney without using a video editor. Do it. Go ahead.

fervent thunder
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yeah like i said im not about to pay for mj, but the fidelity and accuracy goes to mj, open or closed

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i'll take your word for it terbo

astral goblet
#

hyperboles are kind of dumb when they're treated like facts. not your mothers responsibility to teach you such things but it would've shown she cared about your upbringing had she taught you that

forest apex
#

few cool features, yea for sure, but I've never used it, not into easy mode stuff

fervent thunder
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this guy calls me a troll and he's already insulting my mother lol

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thank god she didnt raise to me to insult like that, at least

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and see, terbo can hold a convo without flipping his fanboy switch to 10

forest apex
#

bro I been drinkin all night, just finished a latent blending script, I'm all good rn

fervent thunder
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lol

mint mirage
#

Does anyone know what improvements were made between open journey and open journey v2

astral goblet
#

can't do scripts with mj gens so easy. and if you can it's against their terms of service rendering all your rights to the content disqualified

forest apex
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@astral goblet counting the things MJ can't do is an endless journey. lets focus on the positive 😄

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anyway. I wonder what it takes to make an automatic1111 extension. this latent diffusion script would probs qualify

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not too familiar with licenses, would the MIT license conflict with adding it to automatic1111?

astral goblet
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i don't think so. automatic also changed to agpl last i checked

forest apex
#

cool cool, lemme look at some gradio

elder sleet
#

any help with understanding google collab, etc?

forest apex
#

thinks this looks pretty complicated... but perhaps, not impossible

elder sleet
#

its more what to pick and what is best for someone to use all types of models etc? and also pricing

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so many services to pick from

crisp gyro
#

Are there any good web resources for community/public models? Safetensors?

astral goblet
potent star
#

Hey!

What would be the most effective way of teaching multiple faces? Embedding vs models? Are there any drawbacks with embeddings? Would I be able to use embeddings with inpaint models?

Am I asking the questions in the right chat? 😄

astral goblet
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the model has to know the face already for embeddings. you'd only get one trigger key word per embedding too. for multiple subjects/concepts youd want to use a refined model with dreambooth or a similar tool

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general chat is general /salutes

potent star
astral goblet
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sometimes your face can be known already. like the model knows lots of faces and an embedding may be able to pull those concepts out well enough

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people do it and it works well enough a lot of the time. one face/subject per embedding usually. or a single generalized concept like a style

fervent thunder
#

what do you guys think is the best 1.5 model for photo real?

potent star
astral goblet
#

embeddings are a lot more powerful on 2.x. i'm not sure of the technical reasons, something about a deeper embedding layer in the model.

potent star
fervent thunder
#

what embeds are you using for 2.0 photo real

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the photohelper ive got and cinemahelper

potent star
fervent thunder
#

the good things about 2.x is the larger default image size, slightly better details without any prompt tweaking, some more depth in the image, photo realism, and less chance of weird "bugs" such as heads atop heads.
The rest I'd say is better on 1.5 and its "side" models. I also don't like the 'idea' of embeddings too much as they control the image details too much. Such as similar faces, clothes, etc.

forest apex
#

@fervent thunder hires fix has something to say in regards to image detail and image size

potent star
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Txt to image is bad with this method, but img2img is good and can still force different clothing and poses.

fervent thunder
still remnant
forest apex
#

@fervent thunder So your line was what exactly?

fervent thunder
potent star
astral goblet
#

genning smaller than 768x on the larger set seems to be problematic. i'm not a fan

fervent thunder
forest apex
#

hmm. latent diffusion lags my session with 2.1 at 768, maybe i'll try 512 and upscale...

still remnant
#

I have yet to get the 512 base to work on my system. But it's been a busy month so admittedly I haven't tried that hard yet

forest apex
#

@fervent thunder ahh. I can see img2img as it requires extra effort, but upscaling/hires fix are programmatic, I don't quite grok not using them

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but even img2img can be made to be programmatic

astral goblet
fervent thunder
forest apex
#

but, if it can be easily recreated, it's not... as unique?

astral goblet
#

you know how there's a huge scene around minecraft seed hunting. like it took people 10 years to discover the seed in the original screenshot of minecraft ? it's sort of like that. prompt prospecting? that's another possible moniker

astral goblet
forest apex
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just stepped away from the prompts and started taming the serpent

astral goblet
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if it never existed before it was easily reproduceable, then it's an act of discovery as much as it is creation

#

grok's a good word. i'm just trying to help you bridge that gap. who knows why people do things really but that's how i see the one shot culture

forest apex
#

I mean I feel like the more time and effort and difficulty put into a piece makes it more artfull.

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I've seen some fantastic generated images, I can't discount that though

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prompt engineers on fleek

astral goblet
#

complex creative processes can certainly benefit the end product. i compare leonard cohen with bob dylan though. while leo spends 7 years crafting the perfect song, bob will bang out something legendary after breakfast

fervent thunder
#

and there will still be people saying both are "bad" before/after they listened to it either way :P

forest apex
#

someone will love both of their creations, I see your point though

astral goblet
#

theres people today combing bob dylan's work and explaining why it's all bad, because of that autograph situatioon that happened recently

#

bad art is just subjective and it really depends on the lens you use to experience that art

forest apex
#

Leonard Cohen died peacefully in his sleep tho. Dylan is still in this hellhole :0

#

judging art is such a futile energetic expenditure

astral goblet
#

i-am-the-law.gif energy

fervent thunder
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I just want people to have fun and be happy while creating cool stuff! :D

forest apex
#

I know people that can just freestyle songs out of nowhere, such inspiration....

astral goblet
#

i'm incredibly serious when i'm generating images. it's all highly technical work and not the domain of fun at all. serious face

forest apex
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Whenever I am at the console it is fists on the keyboard, eyes crossed, hair disheveled, idk man

astral goblet
#

its home row

forest apex
#

alan-watts-on-the-didgeridoo.gif

fervent thunder
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I long till the day the ai knows how to create all the details a person want. I can count on one hand about the main 13 issues with the ai! ;P

forest apex
#

coughs: ai.... knows ....

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I saw something on reddit where someone was upset at the term "AI". Like it wasn't really that accurate. In an age raised expecting terminator robots, I kind of felt him

#

a bunch of algorithms don't know anything, they just follow instructions. expecting sentient algorithms is like skeleton-waiting-at-keyboard.gif. bah, I gotta figure out gradio, bbl

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oh, someone on /r/chatgpt came up with a joke that wasn't on google. it was pretty cool. but my markov bots from several years ago came up with unique phrases, too.

fervent thunder
#

is deepfloyd associated with stable? i see emad did some deepfloyd gens on twatter

tall ivy
river maple
cloud granite
junior badger
#

started working on that server 😁

forest apex
#

nevermind. hasn't come up for me either. 😦

#

but, wikipedia didn't come up for me earlier this morning, I was like, is this.... it??

still remnant
#

I saw my favorite quote on AI ever that came from this server (can't remember who) said, "Don't give the AI sentience, I don't want it to be sad." I think about that a lot.

rocky beacon
#

just refreshed civitai and looks like they lost the domain? o.0

fervent thunder
#

ouch

junior badger
#

if that's the case I bet you it was a DVMA take down or whatever the letters are

forest apex
#

nice try, FBI

junior badger
#

nah, I bet it was a celeb that just found out someone made a data model on'em

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bet

forest apex
#

doing.... all of the things

junior badger
#

like I said that one day, The Gov's of the world are gonna wake up fast and try to censor this tech

#

or not, lol

forest apex
#

I recommended it to someone 4 hours ago.... and the literal first tile on the page was some chick givin brains

junior badger
#

lool

forest apex
#

they coulda done something about that. fr tho

river maple
junior badger
#

then it becomes Non-Art

forest apex
junior badger
#

it always starts with censoring 1 thing... then another, and another, and you end up here, in Woke society

forest apex
#

I still remember what @junior badger said, art since the beginning of time has been based on the female form

river maple
#

I'm not pro-censorship, I'm saying you can toggle it on/off if you want

junior badger
#

the stage that come next, is what ww2 was fought over

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Unt Zer vill be only 1 allowed art, (mumbling in German)

forest apex
#

yea, I signed up for some reason, maybe to download uberRealstic P* Model, because my friend was using it to model non-nudes of his wife and said it was really good

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I didn't mind the nudity or sexuality, just made a mental note and went 'hmmm.'

junior badger
#

unt, ze Furher vill decide vhat zat art vill be

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lol jk

forest apex
#

then the ubermensch will be eradicated

junior badger
#

Anti-Censorship = freedom
Censoring art = Communism
either start parenting better, or end up a future national socialist cyber punk hellscape

cloud granite
#

I got a question. Am I allowed to share one of my videos in this server? If so, what channel?

junior badger
#

video of......

cloud granite
junior badger
#

(also I'm not a mod, I have no say in anything)

cloud granite
#

I know

junior badger
#

(if you didn't)

#

idk, is it the rules you can't?

cloud granite
junior badger
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

forest apex
junior badger
#

you could, hmmm, yes... I concur

cloud granite
junior badger
#

ooohhh well fuck me running

#

i belive your querry has been solved

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lol

forest apex
#

I just wrote a latent diffusion script which blends infinite prompts into a video, I'm trying to add it to automatic 1111 extension list but failing due to excessive chatting

junior badger
#

lol

cloud granite
#

Done.

junior badger
#

sounds like YOU problem loljk

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i joke, i joke

forest apex
#

man Atlas' shoulders break with my problems, but lets talk about YOU

junior badger
#

huh

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forgive my uncultured mind

river maple
junior badger
#

well, that is where most of all of it originated

forest apex
#

one of the top posts on /r/stablediffusion is a meme of tig ol bitties, it's just nature man

junior badger
#

and EXACTLY my argument for having nsfw in art servers

#

but I digress

#

I'm building one

forest apex
#

I mean, there are a lot of people who'd have heart attacks at the sight of a nipple. I do respect their longevity.

junior badger
#

with logo and website landing page

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well ppl think the Amish are all just work and jedidia this jedidia that. But you notice how many kids they have

forest apex
#

last time I was on an amish farm a dude was using a power saw. really, no cap

junior badger
#

even they, are freaky deeky

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lol

forest apex
#

to this, I also went, hmmm.

junior badger
#

😅

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and I bet you, an Amish artist, is well trained in the art of drawing the booba's

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🤔

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hmmm, quit

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lol

forest apex
#

nah, I bet they have really strong imaginations with the ability to visualize a dozen boobas of various proportions

junior badger
#

i forgot the name of it.... i remeber ... Tantric Sex. uughgh i guess

forest apex
#

1 jahna, 2 jahna, 3 jahna, four!

tribal verge
forest apex
#

@tribal verge we are all in the dark as of the current moment. Information will likely emerge very soon ....

junior badger
#

word on the street is it's down

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but guess what?

#

I have a copy of idk 10 or more models, I actually made sha256's of, and tar.gz archived them

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😁

forest apex
#

does NOT have a mirror on his SSD, don't ask

#

and this is not unstable diffusion discord

junior badger
#

all I said is I have some models archived

tribal verge
#

and then can you find out where to look for information on the site?

scenic mason
#

Hello, just joined. Is there a group for anythingv3?

junior badger
#

run a whois on the site

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it's behind cloudflair, so who knows

forest apex
scenic mason
#

thx terbo, I checked out the discussions, nothing very interesting there

forest apex
#

there is nothing much about civitai on unstable diffusion either, hmmm

junior badger
#

Domain Name: CIVITAI.COM
Updated Date: 2022-11-03T18:46:35Z
Creation Date: 2022-11-03T18:44:59Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2023-11-03T18:44:59Z

forest apex
#

someone didn't do their job. and someone else capitalized on that.

junior badger
# 
Set options:
  novc            nodebug        nod2
  search        recurse
  timeout = 0        retry = 3    port = 53    ndots = 1
  querytype = A           class = IN
  srchlist = 
Server:        9.9.9.9
Address:    9.9.9.9#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    civitai.com
Address: 104.21.86.42
Name:    civitai.com
Address: 172.67.214.129
Name:    civitai.com
Address: 2606:4700:3037::6815:562a
Name:    civitai.com
Address: 2606:4700:3032::ac43:d681
#

5 addresses you can try

forest apex
#

we must not attribute malice to what may be negligence

junior badger
#

2 IPV4's, 2 IPV6's, and the domain name

#

ya, it's best not to start rumors

potent star
#

civitai offline?

forest apex
#

dead jim

junior badger
#

the site owner, could just very well be doing updates to the site, who knows

#

jim's dead?

#

shut up

forest apex
#

yea. model fiends are rioting, we rational technicians are just waiting for an official response.

junior badger
#

idk wut u meant by dead jim, only person I know that goes by Jim online is MrMetokur

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the only infamous Jim, i know of

forest apex
#

my old school hacker friend was named Jim. now he's a teacher and I'm still a bum living in a tent.

junior badger
#

nothing wrong with tent life

forest apex
#

huge tent I ain't gonna lie

junior badger
#

i lived out of a military alice pack for 11 years

forest apex
#

you Top G my brother

junior badger
#

most ppl will never expirence the freedom I have

forest apex
#

one of few

junior badger
#

🙃

forest apex
#

and I wouldn't change a thing

junior badger
old marten
#

Wait, civitAI is down? I knew it was a good idea to download all their models, even though I wouldn't use them all.

junior badger
#

😉 a few of use did

old marten
#

Nothing beats having stuff locally. Never trust the cloud.

forest apex
kindred imp
forest apex
#

upvote @old marten's comment for the future generations

old marten
#

I'm still one of the few people who uses MP3s on iTunes.

#

At least my favorite albums and my workout music. Fuck Spotify and fuck the cloud. That shit can disappear any second.

junior badger
#

@forest apex i even wrote the lyrics in the comments 😋

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1st comment

forest apex
#

you my friend have 100 subs. hit me back I'm that close 🙂

junior badger
#

and now that i read them again, they would make good prompts

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I have no content but my pirate cat meme lol

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i have no idea why ppl follow me

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i tell them not too

forest apex
#

I actually got 80+ subscribers just from comments and making mad playlists

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over 16 years, heheh

junior badger
#

ye, i do have some hard to find music

forest apex
#

same boat

junior badger
#

?

#

oh the Kittyman?

forest apex
#

? idk?

junior badger
#

boat?

forest apex
#

re: hard to find music

junior badger
#

tomato tamatoe

ocean heart
#

is there a cloud hosted solution I can use models from, like a streaming service of sorts?

hard osprey
#

Is there any way to turn static ai generated images into looping cinemagraphs or gifs?

#

I should clarify, outside of animating them manually without ai assistance

uneven heath
ocean heart
#

I believe there is an extension for that available in the automatic1111 UI

#

yes that one

uneven heath
#

deforum and ebsynth whatever fits your best requirement

ocean heart
#

is there a way to load a safetensor or ckpt file from a webservice however?

forest apex
#

there is also the animator extension and script versions

#

@ocean heart it depends on the webservice?

ocean heart
#

I have no experience what so ever, so I'm mainly asking for any answer on that what so ever.

#

like is there a way for me to run automatic 1111 on my native device but use a model from the web to make my images?

#

as in not download and maintain it myself

#

I have downloaded models and used it as well as other features

#

but I do not know of models I can use which are web based

hard osprey
uneven heath
hard osprey
#

That's pretty unique looking

forest apex
#

@ocean heart why wouldn't you want to download the models?

ocean heart
#

I would, but if a model is experimental or still being worked on or needs to be changed because of a new version of Stable Diffusion or I need to repair my installation, it would be convenient for something like that

#

but I assume the answer is no, there isn't something like that.

forest apex
#

I don't think that is a very big issue. The main issue, for me personally, is having space to save all the models and time to generate images from them

#

once you find the model you want worrying about it being updated is minimal, soon Stable Diffusion V3 will be out, but as V1 is still viable, it's likely V2 won't turn to dust instantly

#

btw civitai.com has a status message now, so looks like they re-registered their domain

ocean heart
#

how do I use V2, can I even use automatic 111 with it?

narrow sluice
forest apex
#

@narrow sluice who says?

narrow sluice
#

Aka, Gambling

forest apex
#

is down for it, and runs away with all his models and images

#

I totally quit playing games to play with stable diffusion.

#

except for gacha clash royale lol, down to like an hour a day

still remnant
gentle blaze
cursive gate
ebon pewter
#

for anime related model, is it necessary to use ENSD: 31337 for better output? or it just use to create exact output from others?

warm junco
ebon pewter
#

thanks, with or without the settings, output still look anime-ish

warm junco
#

yea ^^

cloud granite
fervent thunder
#

does anyone know how to take an IRL image and turn it into AI through diffusion

#

saw someone doing it today but idk how to do it

#

is it just img2img?

cloud granite
# fervent thunder is it just img2img?

Yes, you could take a real life image from Google and put it into Stable Diffusion. Then press the "img2img" button, drop your image in, and press the "generate" button. It should generate similar variatons of that image.

fervent thunder
#

interesting! I'll have to check it out