Prelude Honor given out again?

[vivid steeple]

DE has said that they are against exclusive items and that this game will never have truly exclusive items like excalibur prime in warframe.

[brisk beacon]

Flowers, Paragon Sword, Sparragon, and Paragon Triune would like to have a conversation

[sturdy ruin]

Only one of those that is confirmed to be exclusive is the flowers

[brisk beacon]

Paragon sword is confirmed exclusive too, only a limited amount of craftable blueprints will be possible.

[sturdy ruin]

Could I please get a source for that

[vivid steeple]

That is incorrect, they said that people who own them will be able to produce more, they've never said that we could only make a limited number

[neon zealot]

Paragon will be able to have copies gifted by Paragon Founders

While a cooldown for this has been raised (but not confirmed by any means), a limit has not been

[brisk beacon]

So in other words nothing has been confirmed?

Aside from the fact it can be gifted*

[neon zealot]

And the fact gifted copies will in some way have the original Founder's name attached

Aside from that, the method, limits, or other details have not been confirmed yet.

[brisk beacon]

Ah yes, so you won't be able to craft it yourself, thus exclusive is it not?

You'd have to outsource

Generally something non-exclusive would be available to the entire player base through conventional means

[neon zealot]

You're more than welcome to consider it exclusive if you feel it fits that definition.

[brisk beacon]

Also didn't they give out an exclusive sword skin for Warframe as well?

[neon zealot]

That has not been stated to be exclusive

They did give out codes for sword skins though, yes

[vivid steeple]

DE has stated their definition of exclusivity though in that an exclusive item, like Excalibur prime, is one that only has a limited number of copies and other than those limited copies is unaccusable in any way.

Based on that definition none what they've discussed is exclusive.

[brisk beacon]

Okay so then are they releasing the preludes honor post preludes then by that logic?

[wind fulcrum]

yes

[brisk beacon]

Where is that stated at?

[wind fulcrum]

there will be a yearly event to get it

steve

[brisk beacon]

When?

[wind fulcrum]

devstream

last one

[brisk beacon]

Which?

[neon zealot]

Yes, they said they'll be doing a Preludes Festival every once in a while that you can get it at during the last Devstream

[brisk beacon]

That's just, lame lmao

[neon zealot]

Where preludes players can be honoured and celebrated

[brisk beacon]

but alas seems that's the game direction

oh well

[wind fulcrum]

a good direction

[brisk beacon]

boring in my opinion

[wind fulcrum]

to each their own

[brisk beacon]

I prefer exclusive stuff like I stated, also I'm aware most people won't agree with that

[neon zealot]

End of the day, DE has outlined their plans for this going forward, and you're more than welcome to your opinion or feelings on those decisions, and to give feedback on those decisions here.

[wind fulcrum]

almost everyone who has that opinion only has it when they are the one benefiting, as soon as you are the one missing you would sing a different tune 100%

[brisk beacon]

nope! I don't really care actually I think it just brings more unique stuff into games but that's just me

I play other games with "exclusive items/rares" frequent, I don't complain when I miss out 🤷‍♂️ I'm not meant to 100% everything lmao

Allows for a "hey I was there" moment that you can show off, it'd be different if it was an entire set but even the fact they're doing ANOTHER release of the preludes honor post preludes is actually kind of odd choice personally

Ultimately I can understand the reasoning for releasing it again >during< preludes but post preludes is even weirder to me

[wind fulcrum]

End of the day, DE have said since the beginning they are against exclusivity, they have said once again recently that anything exclusive is a limited time thing and nothing will remain exclusive forever, it is what it is

[brisk beacon]

Correct, but I'm also going to post my feedback on it

[wind fulcrum]

personally i think in a game like this where the whole point is collection, not being able to collect everything kills the point of even playing so they are correct in their approach

[brisk beacon]

I don't think I'd single handledly change the game direction that'd be delusional, but it is fair that I at least voice my opinion whether others agree or not

Just my personal view on it

[wind fulcrum]

fair enough

[mellow gale]

You can make unique things without timegating it, there is nothing about the concept of time gating that effects how unique or rare something is
Timed Exclusives are good for short term onboard and bringing people in for a patch but over all it just gives more and more reason to not play a game when someone is debating starting.

When it comes to exclusives the easy way to distingush i was there without locking it off is like they are doing with the paragon sword
and with preludes honor, just make it so it marks in some small way what prelude you got it in. Same item with the ability to distinguish

[brisk beacon]

Well yes but they haven't distinguished anything is my issue, so none of it matters

[wind fulcrum]

IMO the best "exclusives" are earnable but hard to do

[brisk beacon]

Even if they broke it down to like you said, marking it to when someone got something, that alone would fix a lot of my complaint personally

[wind fulcrum]

like comp cape on runescape, or rewards for milestones

[brisk beacon]

It just feels as if the two events are getting merged into one reward and it feels lazy personally

[wind fulcrum]

not everyone will have it but everyone can get it

[brisk beacon]

And now there's no true way to distinguish whether you had your account wiped or just went through the mechanic reset of 26

[mellow gale]

paragon sword is talked about to have that, They could do the same with Wylds if they wanted and i personally think they should do that for preludes honor, its still preludes but after make it earnable at the festival but distingushed in some way even if its just an event glow for preludes players to truely honor them

[brisk beacon]

I mean you could easily add a yearly tag as I've seen in other games

i.e Preludes Honor 2025, Preludes Honor 2026

[sturdy ruin]

Why does this truly matter though

[wind fulcrum]

it doesnt

[brisk beacon]

Because I like to say I was there and went through with it and have proof?

it's just a personal preference

hence my post

[sturdy ruin]

I assume account creation date will eventually be a thing

[wind fulcrum]

you know you was there

why do you need others to know?

[mellow gale]

Its basically the same as having a date earned for achivment in games, doesnt matter to you but some like it, i thinkits good to give people that info even if its just personal

[brisk beacon]

^

[wind fulcrum]

i dont get it i guess

[brisk beacon]

I don't NEED others to know, but it would be nice to distinguish different events

simple

I would be able to look at someone's honor and see "oh they were there for 2025 and 2026? That's cool!"

[wind fulcrum]

its not an event though lol

[brisk beacon]

it literally is?

they said it's a planned event

[wind fulcrum]

should they give somthing to everyone every single patch?

[brisk beacon]

they literally said it's a planned yearly event

according to the mod in chat earlier

[wind fulcrum]

no i know that

im saying, playing before P7 isnt an event that needs a badge lol

[prime trench]

Pretty sure the flowers do exactly that they say the day they were planted

[brisk beacon]

I didn't say it needs a badge 😭🙏

[wind fulcrum]

if thats the case, where the P8 badge and P9 badge for losing idol weapons?

or the i was here before prisms prism?

[brisk beacon]

Well now you're sidetracking to things unrelated to the preludes honor

[mellow gale]

i dont think we are talking about giving things to anyone at this point, I think an earned on date is a good way to distingush without FOMO
I dislike unearnable things but when someone earned something is fine to mark espiecally if DE keeps track of it (they do, they keep track of a ton of info incase they need to change systems) and its on something noteable.

[wind fulcrum]

im not, its the same principle, it doesnt matter

[brisk beacon]

Well to you it doesn't matter, to someone like myself it does

[mellow gale]

i say its fine to mark those peoples prelude honor with when they started playing, i think it makes sense for beta testers to get a item that deisngates when they were beta testing

[brisk beacon]

hence the point of feedback

if your feedback is just "no that's pointless" that's not much feedback

[neon zealot]

Alright, this seems to be getting off track, and a bit hostile. Reminder that everyone is welcome to give feedback and opinions, and that this isn't a debate space. Please make sure you're remaining on the topic of Preludes Honours returning, and what form you might prefer to see that.

[wind fulcrum]

i just dont get the point of what you are asking for?

[brisk beacon]

I don't even want an item, but simply a dated thing you could collect, you could even keep the same item/art but it'd be a neat nod to the year you were there to get it without the FOMO of the actual item.

[wind fulcrum]

you want comemoration for one thing but aparently its sidetracking to apply the same logic to other stuff

[brisk beacon]

well yes because that's not the topic I posted about

[prime trench]

The dude just wants a "I got it before you" marker

On everything

[wind fulcrum]

yeah for the thing he was there for

but not for anything else becuase thats not relivant aparent;y

[brisk beacon]

No? You could genuinely release it after preludes for all I give a shit lmao

It'd just be nice to keep track of

Sorry the dates hurt you guys

[mellow gale]

Yeah just a earned on date for achivement and the achivmenet was being a beta tester on that phase.
People are making it out to be so much more than it is.

[brisk beacon]

Just toxic ngl

[prime trench]

You are being very contradicting and by now it just seems like just playing trolling.

[neon zealot]

Alright, that's enough, both of you @brisk beacon @wind fulcrum , please make sure you're being civil and focusing on the topic and providing constructive feedback, not attacking other envoys or making remarks unrelated to the topic at hand.

[brisk beacon]

Gross that this is how the community acts now

I wanted a discussion, not to be attacked so thanks

[unkempt oar]

OPs have perms to lock their own threads so there's that

[brisk beacon]

How does one do that? I'm not savvy with discord much on that end

[unkempt oar]

But this whole feedback system needs to be looked at

On mobile u hold on ur thread from the list

[brisk beacon]

my goat

I'll reopen this up later when people want to discuss their views and not attack others for theirs

[unkempt oar]

You cant

Apparently once u lock it you can't reopen, unless you ask a mod

[brisk beacon]

ah nevermind, I'm just gonna take this down then lmao