Faction QoL suggestions

[vital geyser]

With Factions being expanded in P12 there are some additional changes I'd love to see:

Ambient Faction gain:

• All 3 Factions have specific goals and methods, activities in the world should reflect these.
  Certain objectives I feel should give standing to relevant Factions regardless of current "active" Faction
  • Sabotaging Ode machinery should give Silent Rose standing regardless of current affiliation
  • Freeing animals should give Alca's Children standing regardless of current affiliation
  • Killing Ode patrols should give Kith of Kings standing regardless of current affiliation
• Similarly, certain bosses are opposed/tied to certain Factions, killing these should award appropriate standing
  • Vadagar Stag kills should give a chunk of Silent Rose standing
  • Kabocha kills should give a chunk of Alca's Children standing
  • Mendicant King kills should give a chunk of Kith of Kings standing
• Your active Faction would still determine Faction Tale rewards and standing gains, but these changes would provide some passive standing gain for other Factions as well.

Open stores:

• Once joined, Faction stores should remain open regardless of current active Faction

Free teleports:

• Once the "improved" Talisman is crafted (Molten Mora, etc...) these should provide free teleports to the Faction Enclave
  • "Wasting" a seed just to go cash in standing does not feel great, and the upgraded Talisman coming with an extra QoL feature would make it a more permanent upgrade.
  • It would still cost a Wevetroot seed to head to any World Trees, so the only area an Envoy could consistently return to is the starting zone.

Faction cap expansion/visibility

• The daily standing cap is currently not displayed anywhere in-game, making this easily visible when interacting with a Faction NPC would be greatly appreciated.
• With standing limits increasing, the daily cap should also be boosted

[novel shard]

+1
perhaps I could also add a suggestion to unlock changing your faction? Having to grind to rank 3 and then some to buy the thing to change my faction that I was forced into from choosing a specific gameplay 'class' focus doesn't feel good

this is technically from a personal gripe, I'm aware. I really really would prefer hearing Jotar's voicelines over Avakot's over and over again, but even then it would help I think if I could rotate between which faction I want to focus grind for so over exposure to one leader or the other doesn't eventually become tedious/annoying 😅

[wintry mango]

Yea I agree with all this. In addition to seeing your progress through the daily cap, you should also be able to see your current amount of each standing, without having to go to an enclave or complete a mission.

[storm iron]

+1 ... Alternatively; all of the above activites (I'd argue even killing mobs in generaL) should give you alittle bit of rep for your chosen faction. I much prefer that system in WF rather than the bounty system. The bounty system - especially if it is limited by a daily cap - is an extremely annoying chore.

[vital geyser]

I think just having kills give standing would be too much, you'd have people do the endless combat to max rep instead of the intended design of "You are helping free Midrath"

[storm iron]

I'd say it depends entirely on how much rep you get. Giving lets say 1 rep per mob is hardly going to make people who wants to level factions just grind mobs instead of doing bounties.

And putting down Ode is arguably freeing Midrath! :]

[novel shard]

oh hb clearing out the corrupted creatures? it could be logged the same way as clearing Ode camps probably, but which faction would that one go to?

it'd be nice if clearing corruption and stuff also contributes to faction exp even outside of tales, like maybe tales just gives a bit of bonus exp?

[mellow python]

i completely disagree here, killing mobs should give faction xp, but the smallest amount possible, for example, mobs lvl 1-35 should give 1 faction xp, 36+ 2xp, bosses and agari 3, and in cogah mode bosses and agari 4, even at this rate there grind is still there, but slightly less of a grind, lets use faction rank 3 as an example, 20k standing is 20 max level tales, not much of a grind really, but adding in that tiny amount gives players another way to passively get the standing and not be forced to run tales, castle seiges should also reward a small amount, just depending on which faction you are currently with

[thorny zinc]

/signed to the OP

[novel shard]

in the original post as well it was suggested killing Ode patrols to gain faction standing with Kith of Kings, it could be potentially expanded to stuff like camps and fortresses? it would tilt to kith of kings by a lot, but maybe adding other stuff to give faction standing for other factions could help and it'd fill out the world with more interactions too

[atomic dune]

+1

I'd also like it if the overview standing shown at the end of a tale was actually my available, earned standing. I just walked across the whole map because I thought I had the 20k needed to rank up, but actually I only had 10k and (I'm guessing) the previous rank's worth, but maybe that's a bug instead.

[novel shard]

I think that’s currently a bug yeah I had the same thing

[plush gull]

+1

Maybe even make the standing stay when you rank up. I feel like it's unfair to completely reset all your hard earned standing just to grind it out again in order to buy something. At that point the price isn't 7500 for a shimmer, it's like 47 500 or smth ridiculous like that. That's almost 50 faction tales for your first shimmer. And yes after that it's only 8 per, but still thats diabolical. Nobody has the time for that lol

[final scaffold]

+1 the cap is way too limiting, and grinding it feels like a chore

[earnest skiff]

+1 DE should just hire you as a designer already. For the talisman, it should be enough to have it in your inventory, so players aren't forced to wear suboptimal gear (or swap it around just to teleport)

[novel shard]

bump!

[maiden flame]

+1

[eager orchid]

+1

[gleaming plank]

I'm fine if affiliation is tied to things but we realaly could use more things for faction rep, even if slow

just freeing animals giving a +100 alone would do wonders

[alpine forge]

+1 good suggestions and honestly most of them are just qol that should be considered

[gleaming plank]

I just want incentives to go back to wandering and only dungeon crawling again. As it stands I only enter when its a t3

[molten sparrow]

+1

[winged yew]

+1

[harsh ferry]

+1

[umbral otter]

+1

[celest basin]

+1