spoiler-chat

[austere robin]

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[sonic sequoia]

Confirmed for this year, new teaser suggests SOON™.
-# Though personally, while I hope so, I doubt it is going to be P14.

[dense scaffold]

Mounts are gonna change the map from too big, to too small - At least gauging general feedback regarding map traversal, people always asking about FT

[jaunty heron]

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[cyan nacelle]

did they give a relese date for preludes 14?

[dense scaffold]

Mid April

[pulsar orchid]

That's the fort, not the castle 😄 both are in the region of Kearnhold, which seems to kind of cover the bottom third of Midrath

[dusk ore]

hi, how do the preludes and everything work

[pulsar orchid]

I think probably, we can't say for certain because it's possible for mounts (which are this year) to drop before any of the Castle Kearnhold stuff - but they do seem to have tied them together with this trailer

[pulsar orchid]

Pretty wide question 😄 have you read the faq? https://www.soulframe.com/en/game/faq

[dusk ore]

right thanks, and how do i get these invites

[pulsar orchid]

It's mostly explained in the pinned message from the mods #spoiler-chat message

[blissful fulcrum]

if you pulse at the grave here you hear a weird sound

[pulsar orchid]

Yep! That's Orlick's grave from The Last Pensive

[blissful fulcrum]

it's been so long since i did it lol

[grizzled wind]

I can’t believe moto gave me a code

[little grove]

What does ‘noble’ refer to here? Is there such an item in the game? Ancient items normally don’t exist in the game, so could these be the old weapons called Idols?

[dense scaffold]

Noble refers to a better version of the same weapon

[little grove]

ancients ?

[rich ingot]

These seem to be tiers of weapon quality

[dense scaffold]

Ancient Thistle

[little grove]

ooo

What does this system mean then: ‘Even Standards have Qualities & Quirks (RNG)’? Weapons already drop randomly, so will their stats be random too? What exactly is meant by ‘quirks’ here?

[quick bobcat]

We'll find out when P15 is closer upon us.

[carmine wyvern]

I think it might be referring to either partially randomised stats or different weapons having unique attributes.
tbh if they give weapons riven mod like random stat bonuses I wont reallyt mind but I thinks its kinda pointlees

[grave seal]

Prime Igne Mora!?

[dense scaffold]

Ancient - Technically

[fading viper]

Sounding like all our current gear will be made to "ancient" or all crafted gear, and the "here's a random drop of a precrafted weapon" will be the standard or noble gear

[viral prism]

i am guessing it is referring to the RNG stuff it add on the weapon. You got Standard Rivt II and then Noble Rivt II with different perks. But then you also have the Ancient Gear that is different from the normal Gear which you need to craft

[pulsar orchid]

Idk it feels like Ancients are going to be specific items right? I can't imagine an ancient vasp-IV when it's just the standard issue sinecure polearm for example

Standard and Noble maybe, like you can imagine a Vasp being starforged to a higher quality

unless it's like a polearm that was wielded by some storied Ode conquerer on another distant world and found its way to Alca 🤔 I guess there are ways they could do it

[viral prism]

my guess is that there will be two classes of weapon themes.

One that you get as rewards from doing stuff, weapons that are "newly made" like all the Ode'n Gear and certain Dendrit weapons.
And Ancient weapons that are old broken down weapons not used in this day and age anymore that require the skill of Steelsinging from Tuvalkane to be remade like the Igne Mora a unique blade that only has been made for the fire lord. This will require us to gather fragments of that once magnificent gear.

On top of that they will introduce quirks and qualities which will have a RNG component that alter the weapon a bit. I hope it won't be hard base stats that are random but rather newly added effects that can differ. Kinda like the Joinery effects you get (they also said joineries are getting a rework)

[viral prism]

yeah i think this is really lore driven

like all the Ode'n stuff would be the pre buildgear cause realistically you can just steal them off from enemies

and then you have weapons like the Royal Tines and Igne Mora that are supposedly one of a kind ancient weapons

[viral prism]

that would be interesting yeah. They probably gonna do something like that to give each class of weapons one of each theme perhaps, but I would like to see it just be old Midrathian weapons of legend to be made whole again and for us to wield

[marsh junco]

I'd assumed that each weapon would have only one rarity (standard, noble, ancient) type that would more or less correspond to the star system we have now for weapons. So there wouldn't be a noble Igne Mora and an ancient Igne Mora. Just Igne Mora that's noble. Did I miss something that confirmed the new rarity types all apply to the same weapon?

[foggy prairie]

P15 plans to change looting/crafting

[marsh junco]

I watched the stream and saw the graphic but I'm having a different takeaway. Did DE say that there were going to be multiple rarities of each weapon? e.g, standard thistle, noble thistle, ancient thistle.

I just got from the stream that there would be classifications of standard, noble, ancient and some would be prebuilt. It felt like a tweak to the star rating system today and not a complete pivot. E.g, since thistle is a 1-star weapon today in P13 then it would be standard. Not one of many rarities.

[echo sail]

The implication is that there would be noble and ancient variants of the thistle added to the game, I think.

[foggy prairie]

My take is that it would work like this:

Standard would drop a weapon with RNG stats
Noble would be that weapon with Better RNG Stats
Ancient would be crafted (Probably by melting down Standard and Noble) to craft the best version of that weapon

[rich ingot]

To be clear, DE didn't cofnirm what those terms meant at all

[echo sail]

They said there would be 'fragments' for ancient gear, so it's not coming from noble and standard rarity drops, it's a separate fragment drop.

[rich ingot]

All we have are assumptions

[marsh junco]

Cool, I thought I missed the bus

[foggy prairie]

Yes, nothing confirmed, but I wouldn't be suprised if fragments came from breaking down the lootable versions

[echo sail]

If they add that, then that would be cool.

[rich ingot]

I personally hope it's the "multiple variants of each weapon" but until we know more it's speculation

[echo sail]

If they're just renaming the rarity system and making it so we don't have to craft 1star and 2 star weapons, then nothing is actually functionally changing. The only way this looks like a rework at all is if there are multiple rarities for each weapon.

Otherwise it's just "we want to make a lot of fodder weapons and we get ya'll don't wanna craft them" update

[marsh junco]

It'll certainly give me something to do with those Vasp fragments. I can see a long term annoyance creeping in where us nerds who like to maintain a full armory feel compelled to refarm everything when a new desirable Quirk comes out

[echo sail]

Multi-rarity-per-weapon is the only way this makes sense to me, so it's a reasonable assumption IMO.

[marsh junco]

I just hope the quirks aren't as wonky as the Diablo loot systems.

[echo sail]

I'm hoping the ancient tier has set-in-stone perks, or at least they're modifyable without rebuilding the entire weapon.

[marsh junco]

Shouldn't... if that green tier crafting block on the graph is accurate

[rich ingot]

Agreed, having them be a long term farm for a "ideal" version would be a good way to add a pity system and give players a longer chase while still rewarding their earlier efforts with versions they can experiment with.

[echo sail]

I'm fine with the prebuilts having some RNG stats, since they're kinda made to throw away/scrap, but the ancients sound like they should be the end goal keeper weapons, and that means they should exhibit the best possible rolls, or at least be able to attain those rolls without just miles of more RNG crafting & scrapping variants of the ancient weapons.

[foggy prairie]

This, I'm actually okay with the RNG stats only if the Ancient tier is the chase/best stats, if the best stats is RNG it will just feel like rivens again imo

[echo sail]

I am also concerned about what happens to our existing farmed gear, but i made a separate thread about that in feedback-tracking.

[marsh junco]

I dunno... my collection of crap rivens just got insanely valuable this week

[slender rover]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pokemon-pikachu-pika-BHzuzIIvDlRGZ7HzDe

[rich ingot]

Regardlessz DE needed to solve the Duplicate problem, and this seems like at least a step in the right direction, though initial implementation may be rough due to it being experimental.

[echo sail]

That doesn't make the riven system good, it just makes you rich.

[foggy prairie]

By duplicate, do you mean that to weapons are the same but one is just better?

[marsh junco]

It also makes me make jokes

[rich ingot]

No, I mean my hoard of 200 Vasp IV fragments

[foggy prairie]

Oh lmao

[rich ingot]

That I can do absolutely nothing with

[echo sail]

We're going to have a "booty chest" full of crap weapons eventually, so hopefully they also put in a way to scrap those for resources or something.

[rich ingot]

Honestly if it was a way to get spare Scrap Metal that would be epic

[echo sail]

Instead of vasp frags, it'll be standard and noble vasp weapons stacked miles high

That's not even an assumption, ya'll know that's how it'll go lol

[rich ingot]

But if they add or change a perk at least the pile might have a cool new roll to experiment with, as opposed to now where there's literally nothing.

[foggy prairie]

I wouldn't be too surprised if our esisting weapons get grandfathered into Ancients to prevent peopleing needing to grind out every weapon again

[rich ingot]

I would be surprised by it

[slender rover]

i just hope the rng isn't bad i hate rng stats in games, a genre that is a good example is gacha games or genshin for an bad example.

[marsh junco]

Yeah, we're here to test their systems

[rich ingot]

Would say Noble at best, they add a new system it needs player testing and giving away the top loot is going to reduce their tester count

[echo sail]

To save on DB space, they'll probably all be listed as "un-appraised vasp" and you won't know rarity or rolls until you pull it out and it takes up a slot. Like the weapons on our railjacks in warframe.

[foggy prairie]

True actually

[echo sail]

I'm not farming gath again. If they make me do those hard farms a second time I'll just quit.

[foggy prairie]

Some weapons might be grandfathred tho, I have a hard time imagining that the Paragon would get effected by this system

[slender rover]

me with purity

[echo sail]

Founder weapons will have to all be ancient, since there's no source of fragments or otherwise, and people will feel like they got ripped off if they're not.

[rich ingot]

It looks like the goal is to make drops more accessible so at worst you might have to farm an Ancient Gath, but you might be able to grab an Ancient Noble easily if that's how the tiers work.

[rich ingot]

That or p15 is when they add the Founders Farming

[echo sail]

If they convert my existing one to noble, then I won't need another noble one will I?

[rich ingot]

Would say Paragon is the only Abcient Definite at this point

[rich ingot]

True, though maybe you want a different Noble roll.

[echo sail]

People are going to be angry, and I'll be one of them, if my founder gear is less than ancient. That's definitely not a point anyone should be willing to negotiate on.

[foggy prairie]

You know, thinking about how they said in the past they want Wyld's to be gained through some sort of "Ritual" it would be interesting to see it play into this rarity system

[echo sail]

I didn't buy the packs to be told they're all going to be fodder we'll have to replace later.

[rich ingot]

That was for the pacts

[foggy prairie]

You could be right

[rich ingot]

The weapons and armour are just rrgular in game loot it sounds like

[slender rover]

honestly kinda wish they were relesing it with p14 having to wait till p15 or what ever people will evenutally have most of the weapons and having to farm again for those same weapons just to get a better version seems like it might hurt the player count imo

[echo sail]

yeah I don't feel like farming things if I don't know where they're going to land after p15.

[foggy prairie]

I think worrying about player count on a pre-alpha is kinda reductive

[echo sail]

I'll get the pact, and collect frags hoping they'll convert to ancient frags I guess.

[rich ingot]

I'll just keep playing as I have

For better or worse, I'm here to test, so if my gear all becomes obsolete it's just more game to play and more testing to do. Totally get if it's not for everyone though.

[foggy prairie]

Plus, an upside to having RNG stats, is that weapons with similar everything could have completely different RNG pools

[slender rover]

then the new jurnie changes in p14 i wonder how that will go?

[foggy prairie]

I wonder if joinery stats were gutted for the RNG system

[echo sail]

I'll gladly collect lower ranked gear for testing. I want to help with that. Weapon math is one of my jams. I just don't want my existing high end and invested gear to be set up to be tossed in the trash after I spent a bunch of time getting it the way I want. And I don't want things I paid for to be trash either.

I was so happy when the seathorn was added I bought it outright and then crafted another with fragments I got. Are those both going in the trash in p15? I'll be super annoyed if so.

[slender rover]

maybe? maybe that's the rng our weapons will have a random jourie stat? and the rarity is just based on what star the weapon is?

[foggy prairie]

Well if our assumptions are correct, the star rarity may be converted to the new rarity system

So like, 1 Star - Standard 2 Star - Noble 3 Star - Ancient or what ever

[echo sail]

that would save the 3star weapons at leaast. I would still be annoyed about having to can 2/3rds or more of my current arsenal, but at least my rare stuff would still be ok.

[foggy prairie]

I don't even think current 3 star weapons are safe

I mean like There will be a 1 star, 2 star and 3 star Avex for example

[slender rover]

yea maybe because three stars are really hard to get currently, it took me three days to get the purity

[slender rover]

or maybe the only things changing for rarity is the star system instead of stars its the name so the avex will stay the rarity it is.

[rich ingot]

In the endz all we can do is wait for more info.

Hipefully DE has a solid plan on how to implement

And if not we can let them know when the plan is announced

[foggy prairie]

Even if it isn't all toooo solid, I have trust that DE will implement on feedback

[rich ingot]

politely and consteuctively mind you

[echo sail]

True, but there is still merit in raising our concerns now. They told us early because they wanted us to start talking and thinking about it early.

[slender rover]

yea gotta wait till the dev stream next month if it is p15 when its releasing.\

[errant sonnet]

I think that last point on the graphic is neat. Tuvalkane still useful, can upgrade found weapons. Even if your current stuff isn't grandfathered into whatever system this will be, I imagine that will be a fallback.

I will reserve any judgment on this until DE gives more info. No point in speculating and dooming now when we know so little on that plan.

[rich ingot]

Very fair, but equally working up too much about one of many possible implementations isn't helpful, so balance is needed, as in all things.

[slender rover]

https://giphy.com/gifs/thanos-perfectly-balanced-as-all-things-should-be-Ry1MOAeAYXvRVQLPw3

[echo sail]

Sorry if the idea that not only my farm for gath might get invalidated, but that I might get told to do it again, makes me salty.

[rich ingot]

At the very least DE is likely hearing what folks want them not to do atm. We'll see what they actually do in time.

[slender rover]

its a valid concern tbh

[foggy prairie]

Like I said early, I welcome this idea, but I'm cautiously optmistic until we get more info

[echo sail]

I would be fine if they just made it easier for other people to get, but telling me I also have to do it again is too far. I did it, the hard way, I should have an ancient gath.

[slender rover]

having to farm any three star weapon again will be a pain imo

[echo sail]

If they want me to farm something rare again, they should add a new rare weapon to the game. At least then I wouldn't feel cheated on what I already aquired.

[errant sonnet]

You're putting ideas in your own head about this. Just give it a bit of time for DE to give us more info on this.

[foggy prairie]

I would hope (but not necessarily expect) something like a weighted grandfathering, like Existing 3 star -> Ancient Existing 2 Star -> noble etc

[echo sail]

I did suggest in another thread that they could implement a 'valence fusion' type system for upgrading weapons to ancient tier. Even if there's an upgrade path, however, I don't want to be told to go farm effectively another gath to get my 'noble' gath up to speed. That's insane.

[foggy prairie]

This way we dont have to go through the pain of getting the already rare stuff again (but also I expect drop chances to be rebalanced for this system) while also having us engage with the new system to bring up our other weapons

[echo sail]

A lot of people will show up in here to complain if they handle this wrong. I'm here talking about it early because I watch the streams and keep up with this. If they shaft people on this, you can expect a lot more complaints. So I hope they do it well.

[rich ingot]

Fair. But equally, DE always said gear and systems are up for overhauls, and that progress in them could be removed if they were changed. Imagine if next week they replaced factions with something else and everyone had to start from 0 on the new thing. These things happen during testing, and while they suck they can also be important for experimenting.

That being said, we don't yet know what will happen in this case. We shall see what comes in time, and with any luck DE will make sure players with lots of existing gear are appropriately compensated for their time.

[foggy prairie]

The last thing DE should be discouraged from is experimenting

[echo sail]

They took my money for weapons and founders gear. They didn't take my money for faction exp.

I would still be pissed if after I finally ground out their insane faction system that they decided to take it away though.

But I still think there's a certain level of "we're not going to take this away from you" they have to commit to if they're going to take money for something.

[rich ingot]

Doubt they'd take away the weapon entirely

For sure

But it may just not be the best version of the weapon you end up with

[echo sail]

failing to give us the ancient versions would be the same thing with extra steps.

I wouldn't have bought inferior versions.

[foggy prairie]

Also I mean

TBF there is also a reality where "Wyld" is just the tier Above Ancient

If we assume ancient is the best a weapon a can be, Wyld (like primes) would be those stats with an extra bump

[rich ingot]

But what is "Wyld". Really only the pacts from what I can tell.

The armour and weapons are just kinda gear, they don't seem to be tiered above the same way Primes are.

[echo sail]

There are and have been weapons that only had a prime variant in warframe. Just because the weapons we have with the wyld packs today aren't super variants of existing weapons doesn't mean they won't or can't do that in the future.
But yeah, I get what you mean. The only thing ingame that is "better" and has the "Wyld" tag on it is the pacts, not the weapons.

[rich ingot]

Yeah, the armor and weapons are rarity 2

They're not seemingly meant as Top Tier options

Moreso a slight bump over the starting gear

[echo sail]

I also bought a seathorn. It's rarity 3. I could have bought a gath, and it would be rarity 3.

[foggy prairie]

I guess that just means we have to wait to see how that rarity means anything in the new system

[echo sail]

I do contend that founders gear should be ancient rarity, and the stats should be buffed to reflect that, by nature of their lore alone. If they're just a standard or noble replica, then we didn't buy the real one did we?

They were sold to us as relics, and they should be relics and have the power associated with that status.

[foggy prairie]

Not to be rude, but I do believe you are getting yourself a little worked up when we don't have all that much information yet.

[echo sail]

People are saying they think these things should be noble or less, and I disagree. This isn't about the information we have at this time.

[rich ingot]

Honestly this convo has grown quite a bit and might be better taken to #1438224662344761345

[echo sail]

They should be ancient rarity, and I'm going to stand on that point until we know, and then I'll raise lots of concerns if it's not.

[echo sail]

Way ahead of you: #1487627973749243965 message

[rich ingot]

Cool!

[foggy prairie]

I might write one up for wylds

just sitting between cogah wazzard spawns

[rich ingot]

Further discussion should probably be taken there.

[rich ingot]

Please do!

Always good to see the channels getting use

[foggy prairie]

😢 One day I will get the Wazzards Cogah rune

[gritty fiber]

To get mine I just played another game on the side as I waited 30 minutes in nightfold to beat Wazzard again and then repeat if I didnt get it on a single potion. You can also do a full boss run in about 30 min, it is a matter of time 😔

[foggy prairie]

I've fought him 6 times today in the same cogah, waiting on #7, typing in feedback and cleaning my house in the in betweens lol

[gritty fiber]

Yeah Wazzard also took the most tries for me, gruul seeker was second.

At least he is easy with the spiders proccing smite

[foggy prairie]

I finally got it

[next kayak]

can i get anyone to help me make a build that can help me through the game a bit

[night charm]

A lore question

Is The Envoy full on part fey, or just heavily connected to them?

[mystic spire]

Part fey iirc

We are literally born with the arm, and granfa also has it

[night charm]

Yeah, I just didn’t know if it was a sign of the pacts or anything

Thanks

[finite tree]

I'm wondering now about Momma Envoy since she not only seems to have access to the Nightfold (also rip? maybe?), but she also seemed to have been spellsong'd in the trailer.

[rich ingot]

But her nightfold is a desert

Which is very curious

[sonic sequoia]

👀
Oh, I didn't catch that, nice detail.

[finite tree]

I wonder if the nightfold can be changed to be what feels like home, and if so, does that mean she hails from the desert regions? Or will we be able to change our nightfold from water to something else?

I wouldn't mind a forest tbh

[valid ridge]

changing night folds would be cool

[finite tree]

I know they have mentioned different types of trees, but yeah...interesting...

[night charm]

In a future prelude/update nightfold customization would be cool

I don’t doubt it is at least being considered

[jaunty heron]

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[viral prism]

bot is gut gut

protectin us from scam

[jaunty heron]

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[vale helm]

Soooo I cried over the ||puppies|| in a livestream 😬 😭

[lofty crest]

they are too cute!

[vale helm]

I wanted all of them 🥲

[lofty crest]

which one you choose?

[vale helm]

ginger one Cathal (?) she told me... sob to keep him well fed then we had a snuggy nap nap together and i bawled

[lofty crest]

awwwww! You can pet them too, they will roam a bit, either be in your tent, around the smithy, or around the librarian guy

[vale helm]

OH!? I went looking for him and couldn't find him and was distraught - I will be on FULL puppy duty trust me, it would be wolf pup simulator in the nightfold if i had my way hehe

[fading viper]

Can you remove this please >_>

It's causing my mobile app to crash every time I load this channel

[quiet junco]

It's the spellsong, Deora's eyes are the same in the Torment Stag cutsene, the seer is just actually blind

[foggy prairie]

if blind why Seer? 🤔

[quiet junco]

You can turn off auto-playing gifs in your Discord settings

[quiet junco]

Characters with prophetic powers being physically blind is a common trope

[foggy prairie]

I know, just being silly

[little grove]

In the video, just like other ancestors, in spirit form

Could our mother really be dead?

[echo sail]

I just kinda assumed every adult from when we were little is dead now.

Especially if they weren't taken by the spellsong.

[pulsar orchid]

I refuse to believe Doyen isn't out there somewhere, just waiting for us to find him 🥺

[foggy prairie]

If Midrathian's age normally, we have to assume its beein somewhere between 20-30 years from the Spellsong, I don't know if expressly stated anywhere

[nova cove]

blind make see ghost better ig

[viral prism]

blinded eyes only remove what is unnecessary to see...
it makes way to see the necessary...

[sudden coral]

discord mods are watching

[viral prism]

tbh, we are like in a medivalesc time period (ignore the gun for a sec), so i'd assume they don't live so long XD

also because it seems there is constant war going on + people of midrath were kidnapped to be conscripts for the Ode

[austere robin]

-# firearms were around in medieval times but not predominantly used outside of artillery and such

[foggy prairie]

Well yes, but I mean that the envoy is a baby in Warsongs and now est 20-30s

[austere robin]

though these were more along the lines of handheld cannons
but who’s to say someone wasnt toying around with the idea of making them more lightweight and less resource heavy

[viral prism]

yeah but.... a flintlock?

i mean could be the case, don't know enough history to know that

i always thought they had boomsticks kinda. clunky, very volatile versions of guns. Not actual advanced gunnery

[prime wind]

yes they had flintlock.
maybe not the exact one, but flintlock is from 1600 medieval era is up until 1500 kindof.
even before that, around 1200 ish they had things like canons, fire lance, miquelet etc.. .

[wooden obsidian]

not exactly spoiler, but we can cheese the fight against the waste bear if we die by just staying at the top, was this ever reported or smtg?

[worldly jewel]

check #1438224825113120788 if it's been reported already

if not, make a new one

[wooden obsidian]

Hmm, i'll just go with #1438224662344761345 because it is not exactly a bug

we just stay there because we want too and pass the 1st phase eaily

it's not exactly a bug, just something that I think is unintended by the devs

[worldly jewel]

That would still count as something that belongs in #1438224825113120788

[shrewd sundial]

I'm pretty sure this is going to be Wyld Ode Tempest.

[dense scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/um-wot-um-wot-confused-markiplier-gif-16374086

[echo sail]

There could also be more than one ode pact. "Ode Riptide" or something maybe?

[foggy prairie]

Clearly its the ode catapult pact, that launches enemies into the sky like they launch us

[shrewd sundial]

We already know there will be more Ode Pacts. Bayor is a Tempest.

[foggy prairie]

To go with that first pic

Still one of the coolest concept arts we've gotten

[inner lynx]

i find a white deer

[dense scaffold]

Guaranteed Rare Totem if you find an albino version

Just ask the beaver I ground up into the level-up powder... he knows

[inner lynx]

w-wha

[inner lynx]

Ooooo

[zinc summit]

time for the grinder

[worthy pendant]

NPC at our enclave hideout, don´t have dialogue nor have a role (other than the initial Quest to join) as the favours Merchant does... will they offer services later on ?

[inner lynx]

Noooooo

[worthy pendant]

Grrr , i hate when i´m about to attack with flying blades an approaching enemy... and on release the blades target wooden boxes, nearby 🤬

[thin goblet]

?

[dense scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/ground-beef-grinder-gif-10187548

[pulsar orchid]

The current autotargeting system has a weird habit of not aiming where you're actually pointing with your mouse, but aiming in the direction your character last moved for some reason 😵‍💫 Sara made a good thread for it here if you want to throw your feedback in, hopefully DE will tweak it soon https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1477818023762202826

[viral prism]

Or Ode Forgetfire pact another of the conscript legions

Damn Forgetfire get forgotten

Wait if tempest is lightning…
And Forgetfire is fire…

Who would be the toxin and cold conscript legions?

[obtuse ore]

This is how I suspect my soulframe envoy is gonna move around once he gets back on his feet with all the pacts (I'm a spirit user with mages and stuff) https://youtu.be/vRB_D1OTVa8?si=XkYrmDCHI2M-x7oU

[shrewd sundial]

Good theory, but Bayor is a Tempest.

[viral prism]

Oh that is the bayor pact?

Didn’t know that

[foggy prairie]

Will be curious, seeing as as far as we know, he's a tempest. But his arm is different lol

[shrewd sundial]

Like I said, pretty sure it's Wyld (Ode) Tempest.

[foggy prairie]

Would make sense

[sudden coral]

i need that armor

[obtuse ore]

Looks badass

[night charm]

There’s Ode with pacts? If I’m understanding what you said?

[shrewd sundial]

Yes. We were one.

[night charm]

Oh, I knew we were ex ode, but we had powers during that time?

I thought we only got our powers after, and we were only part Fey until then

With no ability to use our powers

[foggy prairie]

Tempest Bayor, like us, is an Ode-Captured Envoy

[mortal girder]

yeah the Tempest Pact is the pact we use during our enslavement

[frigid rivet]

do we know how blessed joineries are changing in p14? I know we were told joineries are getting reworked to provide pips, but wondering if it's worth blessing/releveling some stuff now or better to wait until we know what the change is

[quiet junco]

We don't have details at the moment, personally I wouldn't worry too much about saving just in case, systems are going to change so you'll always run into "Oh now I have to relevel/change joinery on this" at least until the game is in a more final state

[near hamlet]

Is there already a release date for the patch where you can have the wolf as a mount?

[foggy prairie]

No, more info at tennocon

[crimson ravine]

@near hamlet My prediction is that the Warsong Tales (mounts) will be released around October.

Last year, when the Waste Bear Quest was shown and announced, it took about 2.5 months from the announcement to the release. (July 18, 2025 at Tennocon, October 10, 2025 Quest release = 84 days)

[obtuse ore]

Id love to have a blood themed Pact

[dense scaffold]

#1438224662344761345

Making a thread is a better way to present the idea

[obtuse ore]

Fair

[obtuse hedge]

we are still in alpha, so they don't really have time restriction or obligations. mounts could drop the week after (and that would be fore the best, because only having runnign and fast travel dowsn't help testing)

[pseudo halo]

Are the wylds farmable yet?

[foggy prairie]

no

[stuck idol]

hii, a little worried if this is spoiler territory so i wish to put it here. we cant seem to find any medicant knights here. do we wait or do we log out and come back in again?

[stuck idol]

nevermind we found it! our little rat-bird guy was just bringing us to the center of the quest- it was an awesome boss battle!!

also, whoever did the music for this game, my god. it's gorgeous.

[crimson ravine]

@stuck idol hehe 👏

[lost bridge]

Does anyone have a link for when DE talked about the rng loot?

Seen a lot of feedback forum discussions. Would just like to know where it spawned from.

No need for exact time stamp. Just the stream.

[mystic spire]

Was the latest devstream

[jaunty heron]

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[lost bridge]

Ill see if i can find it. Ty

[stuck idol]

i finished this quest and damn- i needed a minute. the choir and music and the dear bear asking, || "what if it happens again?" ||, that hit my heart hard.

[buoyant idol]

that quest literally had me bawling, i do not blame you

[foggy prairie]

That line made me cry too

[night charm]

I was straight faced the whole time ngl. I felt a more “I gotchu bro” vibe when he asked

[ancient rapids]

sorry this is prolly wrong chat but im boomer, this game looks sick, is there anyway i can play it?

[rich ingot]

Sure is!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153115423596879932/1489699808791756830/IMG_0133.png?ex=69d15e8f&is=69d00d0f&hm=e331ae7cb6e2b161c93ba56b86d54455ba231e82a4a05d08ba12b2e941450e6f&

[ancient rapids]

do i get to play if i buy one of these?

[rich ingot]

Yes, any founders pack will give game access to the account it's bought with

[ancient rapids]

alright sweet thanks for info 🙂

[worldly jewel]

yyyyyes that was probably when it got added to Steam as wishlistable but not yet available

pretty sure they announced it the same time they released founders

[woven dew]

thats okay, i've made a sub page for myself

Although im happy that they started working towards steam Nov of last year

[worldly jewel]

well not really much to work towards before adding steam availability other than getting the game further along as a whole 👀

[woven dew]

im hoping for Steam and GeForce Now

[austere robin]

yeah if anything, i even think steve said it himself, that having soulframe wishlist-able on steam is so they can show that to both Playstation and Xbox come console cert time

[prime scroll]

help! the Wazard of the waste is not spawning for this quest???

any ideas what i'm missing

I'm at a spot that very much looks like a boss arena

[woven dew]

hopefully you got the help you wanted, if not feel free to respond to my private message

[prime scroll]

it was a bug, but I got it eventually

[jaunty heron]

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[frozen badger]

bro why is this boss just forever immortal

guessing its some sorta bug but bro really😭

[mystic spire]

you just don't have enough light attack damage

try heavy attacks

[frozen badger]

I have been just wont take dmg at all

[mystic spire]

yeah then you are really underprepared

[frozen badger]

is grey hp not just immortal I could hurt it before it did that

[mystic spire]

it isnt

it is just armor that is higher than your damage

usually heavy attacks are enough to break through and do the job

[frozen badger]

it turned it off after i died and came back

[mystic spire]

probably a buff the boss can cast on itself

but regardless grey health here is about the difference between your damage and the enemy armor

[frozen badger]

ight

[frozen badger]

I was 100% not ready for that boss but i killed it anyway lol fought it like i dark souls boss till i killed it

[mystic spire]

nice!

[frozen badger]

fr made me learn the perfect dodge stuff it took so long

[graceful plover]

Just browse the wiki and saw the pact called Duello?

is it available yet?

[mystic spire]

upcoming

all we know is it comes in preludes 14 sometime mid april

[frozen badger]

How does one track down the area world trees Ive just been walking in the dark this whole time

map is just fog

[graceful plover]

At last..grace got some love still🙏🏽😮‍💨

[mystic spire]

either use an online map or just look around for the world trees, in the past you could juuuust see the outline of the tree icons through the fog but dunno how that's looking anymore

[graceful plover]

For me..refer the wiki for quick unlock but suggest you to explore the map through story and enclave

[jaunty heron]

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[frozen shell]

I am surprised that we don't have a tree hugger pact that casts flowers on the ode and deals damage to them because of the fresh air :p

[shrewd sundial]

Is this true?

[sonic sequoia]

"Likely"
We don't know for sure, for all we know Dendrian could be English.

[thin goblet]

bestone hold block aim for head and charge heavy headshot.
then crows to stagger and interact to perform finisher which bypass some armor

rinse and repeat. problem with oscelda kit is the fragile CC and the birds tend to break and waste the damage boost of bestone

[thin goblet]

the roughly this shape (O) around the island so can ignore the more central
and they all (at least) along roads, most near PoI or other landmark

[upbeat niche]

is gud for being a “support” in thing like cogah? stand in water and spam blooms etc., bestone for free rez, birds for stagger?

[gritty fiber]

In multiplayer bestone might be bugged if you are not the host but yeah, two types of crowd control + healing makes for smooth playing in cogah where healing is limited and enemies hit harder. If you got a weapon that slows enemies with the totem you will have a pretty easy time.

[keen pecan]

just as a reminder, please do not ask for codes on this server
there are instructions on how to get access in the pinned message here: #spoiler-chat message
and there'll be a stream on the 21st where you can earn an invite through the twitch drop

[shrewd sundial]

Is the Silent Rose text really Thieves' Cant inspired? It seems nothing like Thieves' Cant.
https://wiki.avakot.org/Silent_Rose_Cant

[pallid nymph]

You do realize thieves cant is code or rhymes right? In that essence yes the Silent Rose Cant is Thieves Cant inspired. Thieves Cant can also be a message in a made up language only known by members of the thieves guild

[shrewd sundial]

Yeah, but the symbols themselves aren't the cant.

[finite tree]

Please note that there are some details of the wiki that are fanciful interpretations. Please take the lore bits (unless sourced) with a grain of salt.

In this particular case I can’t speak one way or another on it.

[signal path]

Its honestly impossible to answer this question for a few reasons:

1. We don't have any real dictionary of the Midrathian lingua franca

2. Thieves Cant can differ significantly based upon the geographical region, country, language e.g., modern thievery in Britain is known to use a set of symbols that translate to different phrases and words rather than using a coded version of English (though this undoubtedly persists to a very small degree)

At a glance it could be said that, from what we know so far the Silent Rose Cant is Thieves Cant because the words inscribed upon walls and houses around their bases might not translate directly to stuff like "Resist" "Fight back" etc., and may instead translate to "Michael took a whizz on Saturday"

[pulsar orchid]

You're probably best off making a wiki thread to discuss this! It was originally pointed out / the edit made by Jay (Auroralux), who mentioned that it meets the definition of:

"a cant, cryptolect, or argot ... used by thieves, beggars, and hustlers" - with a cryptolect being "a secretive language, slang, or jargon used by a specific group or subculture to communicate privately, often designed to exclude outsiders or conceal meaning".

Since they're thieves and saboteurs using a cryptolect (the language part, not slang or jargon) I happily agreed to the change, but I don't think he'd mind if you made a thread for it and tagged him for any discussion/questions etc.

[frozen badger]

bro on my life i cant grab this item now cuz that dam wolf stole my kill

[worldly jewel]

[dreamy junco]

Hopium train that P14 drops this week

[swift zealot]

i have to redo mine at that point, as it happened to me too, hopefully it is ok when I go back in the tunnel for the she wolf thing.

[pulsar orchid]

I am sorry envoy but they said mid-april so my sights are set on late april 😋

[carmine wyvern]

they said mid april so at best its going to be on sunday

[rich ingot]

At best next monday. They don't do weekend releases.

[dreamy junco]

Bummer

[viral prism]

nah next week

trust

[tardy phoenix]

It was last week

I'm just a bit ahead

[viral prism]

damn so how was P14?

[night charm]

He lied

Or she

Idfk

[foggy prairie]

People don't lie on the internet.

It's against the rules.

[little grove]

You're streaming a different game

This isn't a soulframe

[night charm]

Gives scam/spam vibes ngl

[little grove]

<@&1154466146741932193>

[hot vessel]

No self promotion, chief.

[glad aurora]

Had the same thing happen to me, had to re-run the mission

[frozen badger]

oh my pcccccc

they kept stacking bro got stun locked

spawned about 50 birds on poor guy

[shrewd sundial]

Does anyone remember the exact url of this text? It's from the hidden content on the sign-up page in 2022/2023.

[frozen badger]

bro so many birds

btw that blurr is from the game not the screen shot XD

[tardy phoenix]

It's on my profile lol

[tardy phoenix]

It was a very wet update

[karmic lily]

Yeah it becomes annoying because they don't despawn and if you repeat again and again you start to not see the boss you are fighting.

[dense scaffold]

I'm tempted to say they aren't supposed to work like that, I've never crashed because of them but they're god mode basically

[worldly jewel]

English only here

[woven dew]

wasnt it on the homepage, soulframe.com

[worthy sonnet]

question? i got piece of seathorn staff not sure when, but is there a specific place thats good for getting the parts?

[austere robin]

iirc Seathorn is a drop from t3 votives

[worldly jewel]

Yus

[keen pecan]

please don't ask for codes, especially across multiple channels, there's info on how to get access in one of the pinned messages: #envoy-gathering message

[inner onyx]

im so sorry, and thank you for the advice

[rain fjord]

Mb

[jaunty heron]

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[viral prism]

W bot

[worthy sonnet]

are the will o wisp completely random to find, this is a thorn im my side getting will o frounds or way to find them quicker?

[night charm]

Most common in wevetwood

[worthy sonnet]

tyh

[vague ibex]

nc game

[acoustic goblet]

guys, is marrow's bane still not out?

[worldly jewel]

wdym?

it's been in the game since P11

[acoustic goblet]

oh

i try to look for a tuitorial on how to get it, but could'nt find it

[worldly jewel]

not everything is gonna have a tutorial or a video about it

[weary lion]

Hello, good morning, I have a friend who would really like to play, but is not getting the invitation, could someone help please?

[acoustic goblet]

i see... can you tell me how to get it?

[worldly jewel]

pretty sure it's from Vadagar Bear

[quick bobcat]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Marrow's_Bane#Drop_Sources

[worldly jewel]

there's a stream on the 21st i guess

[quick bobcat]

It used to be from kabocha or whatever his name is.

[worldly jewel]

yeh

[weary lion]

Sorry, I didn't understand, what do you mean a stream?

[worldly jewel]

twitch stream. you can get an access code from those as a twitch drop for watching for 30min

[quick bobcat]

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1488569062526029834

[weary lion]

oh poor thing, is he going to have to wait all these days? 🙁

I got the code yesterday here in the group, and today there's a friend wanting to join too. I am talking about the code to invite to join the game.

[worldly jewel]

well he or you can try finding him a code from somewhere if waiting until then is not an option

not allowed to ask for codes here tho

[weary lion]

shocked, I didn't know, sorry

[quick bobcat]

Could just hang out and wait around. Sometimes people who have spare codes seek to give them away. responding ot those people doesn't count as begging.

[weary lion]

Chat GPT told me to come to the Discord groups, so I came running heheh sorry

[weary lion]

thanks for the tip ❤️

[quick bobcat]

Be careful with AI. It can give some wonky info. During P5, it had people expecting Soulframe to be fully released already.

[weary lion]

true, I will be more careful

[jaunty heron]

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[jaunty heron]

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[viral prism]

damn what is happening here? 😂

[austere robin]

unfortunate gullibility sadly

[viral prism]

huh where? is it on the ceiling again? 😭

[austere robin]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-movie-it-says-gullible-on-the-ceiling-you-stole-my-lungs-steal-fooling-gif-6380511684224611414

[rain badge]

https://tenor.com/view/soulframe-wevzy-gif-2822819823575034836

[jaunty heron]

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[worldly jewel]

not allowed to ask for codes here

[quiet junco]

We don't allow asking for codes in the Discord to avoid begging and spam sorry but your friend can sign up for a chance to be invited, and/or watch the Envoy Hour stream on the 21st of this month which will get them access just by watching for 30 minutes

Also if you watch that stream you'll get an extra code to give away, more details on how to a get access in the pinned post in this channel, details on the Envoy Hour here:

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1488569062526029834

[jaunty heron]

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[viral prism]

Why is this chat a battle ground for our bot? 😂😂

[sand wren]

good bot, very good bot

[finite tree]

Bot is good. Not perfect but pretty darn great.

[jaunty heron]

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[slender isle]

Hello guys new here. I am just wondering if how long does the invitation to appear on my email because I live in the philippines and I saw that it's available in our country

[sand kraken]

Do cogah talismans actually grow stronger during cogah?

[trim wigeon]

Can I pass the number puzzle before crafting the Triune Talisman?

[finite tree]

This is currently up for debate tbh

[finite tree]

What do you mean? Do you need to unlock the armor to do the triune? No. You can completely skip the community puzzle and armor set if you just want to focus on the triune pieces.

[trim wigeon]

Can I unlock the armor without Triune Talisman?

[pliant girder]

Yep

[nocturne star]

may i ask if this game is good in sea servers?

[worldly jewel]

you don't play on a server, players host their own sessions including multiplayer sessions which are peer2peer

[viral prism]

Idk if playing in the sea is healthy for your pc

[normal mist]

oml

[worldly jewel]

that is true

[little grove]

is that true?

Her feet are at this distance, the same height as the flowers

[worldly jewel]

Alora smol thas all

[quiet junco]

She's sitting on the rock

[little grove]

Yes, but the flowers are not that big, so the stone is not very big either.

[viral prism]

I feel bad for the spider thingy on her head

[little grove]

I think that thing is alive

Maybe this will sound silly, but could it be Alora that this seed is being delivered to the Synod? It’s larger than it should be, and it tells us that we betrayed it—yet in the game, the “Fey,” which we consider a truly powerful type of being, isn’t something we could have simply betrayed like that. Could it be that we found her at her most vulnerable moment and handed her over to the Synod?

??

empress

[normal mist]

Possibly referring to ||Alora||

[little grove]

yes yess

[normal mist]

oh wait I did not read that first bit

sorry I am not braining today Envoys

[little grove]

I think we find her at her most vulnerable moment inside the seed and hand her over, otherwise we wouldn’t be able to do anything to such a powerful being.

[normal mist]

this is a large wevet seed yeah

[little grove]

yes

[normal mist]

it's not known why the felling happened or why the Wyld three betrayed the Empress so we are left with pure speculation at this point

[little grove]

but a strong reference

maybe?

[normal mist]

you also have to remember that everything in Soulframe preludes is still subject to change

[worldly jewel]

if the betrayal was even out of the wylds own will

[prisma zodiac]

true! like in Warframe, you'll only understand the whole plot when you did the Second Dream quest. So I think its gonna be a big long story marathon of quest to finally understand all of the happenings in Soulframe.

[little grove]

Don’t dampen my enthusiasm 😄

[tender thicket]

Holy moly that lance

[jaunty heron]

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[jaunty heron]

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[pseudo coral]

From my experience, when going through this Cutscene, Alora seems to be inside this Seed - Singing the Magick Song - this character i believe is portrayed as an Envoy - however, i don't believe it is 'us; that is Delievering Alora in Seed form to the Sinnod.

From what we see, this 'Envoy' is also denoted in a cutscene elsewhere during the journey through the Fables - Orengall's Fable - alluring that there is another 'Envoy' who wears this Armor, also captures one of Orengall's pups and names her 'Nightling' - all this is speculation presently within the story we have seen so far

Warsongs in the Journal have cutscenes showing that we, as a child Envoy are stolen by the Sinecure - I believe the 'Envoy' who steal us as a child is the one who uses us to steal and capture Alora to deliever her to the Sinnod - henece being 'betrayers' 🙂

[woven dew]

^ i like, wasn't there some video tied to Mada?

[pulsar orchid]

There is (sadly) no video about Mada

[little grove]

I already think it's Bayor.

I didn't think we were

[jaunty heron]

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[quick bobcat]

All 3 of those are the Bayor character. Before P11, he used to wear regular envoy gear when he kidnaps Nightling. P11 introduced his new gear.

[quick bobcat]

Mada needs some Cutscenes. She' got the best VA in the game.

Mada's in the middle of watching an episode of Ode'n Matlock, and then Synod interrupts and tells her to go pick up some crates.

[pulsar orchid]

-# Oooh, Mada needs some char...

[granite glade]

the thing on her head kinda reminds me of

[little grove]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-intereasting-gif-27177481

[quick bobcat]

We all know what it really looks like...

[granite glade]

legit

[granite glade]

but with a kinda derpy face(?)

[quick bobcat]

That makes it legally distinct.

[quick bobcat]

In case anyone was wondering, no the woodchippers won't kill the townsfolk...

[keen pecan]

hello officer... yes, this one right here ^

[quick bobcat]

Are these new, or have I just been not going through this area for too long?

This heavy hurt himself trying to do a backflip into the water, so I helped him out. 🤣

[little grove]

yes

dendrit village

Added a few updates ago

[quick bobcat]

I must've just not gone through that spot, then. Cause this is the first time I've seen those 2 buildings.

[viral prism]

They kinda look Skelflandish?

Like the windmill in Skelfies

[woven dew]

This isn't Red Dead Redemption

[frosty egret]

Here's me, a lowly level 16 or 17, cruising through the bottom left of the map, breezing through some level 10 to 12s. I see a lighthouse, think that makes for a good exploration way point, and figure I shouldnt have any issues traversing through the onyx swamp towards it.

I was wrong.

So very wrong.

I dont know what the the floaty bois are but they did not like me at all

[viral prism]

The shrimps are crazy yeah 😂

[finite tree]

[rich ingot]

Chair Shrimp emoji when

[finite tree]

When I get around to doing art again...comes in spurts

[eager elm]

[viral prism]

Can they be smitten?

The shrimps?

Cause how would we get them in the new enemy codex?

[pulsar orchid]

Not yet, but,

[pulsar orchid]

This indeed!

mockeries I assume we'll just get from the actual soul, so I think it's

• shrimps
• bisulcams
• (slugs or can they be smitten??)
• will-o-wings
• mistrels (which are technically enemies but DE might exclude them from the codex)
• ghost knights
• floating spirits
• (weavers and weavlings, or can they be smitten?)

that we dunno about yet for journal 'scans'

[jaunty heron]

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[viral prism]

Slugs can’t be smitten either no

Or I have just never seen it

[worldly jewel]

do be correct

[shrewd sundial]

Weavers and Weavlings can be Smited since they added it to Sproutfolk.

Mendicant Knights also cannot be Smiterned.

[worldly jewel]

smoterned

[shrewd sundial]

Castellan Malrog is also immune to being Smithers.

[quick bobcat]

Never played those games. Just doing some science, Cave Johnson style.

[quick bobcat]

The is one friendly one. https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440214171789688964

[woven dew]

I haven't played only seen YouTube shorts game devs for game where basically sure why not

[pulsar orchid]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-simpsons-mr-burns-nwp

[young yarrow]

I've heard that killing all agarics would end the Cogah, but it didnt end, the agarics spawned again and we went for a second round of killing but the mob lvl went back to 40ish

does it end the Cogah?

[pulsar orchid]

no

[pulsar orchid]

where did you hear this from? If it was a youtuber, you may wish to inform them so that they can fix any mistakes in their video

Cogah will end under any of the conditions listed here (I think it ends if you flee a siege too, just need to confirm that to add it):

[young yarrow]

I dont remember but it was probably a youtuber, Im seeing so much stuff I cant remember were I heard it

[young yarrow]

I know it doesn't end if you flee the Organ, as I've done it a couple of times

[pulsar orchid]

ooh nice that's good to know! I'll add it to the wiki thank you 😄

[young yarrow]

thank you as well ^^

I didnt try to do the organ but it started as I was in the area, and we took some shots... they hurt a lot

[frozen shell]

Cogah used to be a 3 hour cap. Did that change?

[young yarrow]

Yeah there is no time limit anymore

[sonic sequoia]

I'm fairly sure it was never capped, at best the only limit is the potion craft timer.

[worldly jewel]

yeah i can't remember a timer for cogah itself ever being mentioned either

[pulsar orchid]

yup same, never heard of a cogah timer

[lament onyx]

Hey guys, quick question, there is no way that P14 will be ON this week right?

[pulsar orchid]

why?

[lament onyx]

Just askin, have no clue honestly

[pulsar orchid]

well the latest news is that they're aiming to release it today, it's only 10:30am for them so there's a good 5ish hours

and if they don't release it today, then it'll be some time between mon-thurs since they intend to go over early feedback on the fri devstream

[brittle dew]

crossing every crossable part of my body so that p14 releases today

[pulsar orchid]

it's not enough

you need to cross the rest

[thin furnace]

in my mind it will come today, DE will launch and i will forget that my last bf was an assh*le

[pulsar orchid]

don't forget, find the person you deserve, envoy 💚

[thin furnace]

nah im good i just need the p14 to be happy for now

[dreamy junco]

No p14 this week…

[rich ingot]

It's 2:30, there's time.

[jovial oracle]

I did the Bromius quest last night for the first time

To the folks at DE, I know you know this already, but i wanna validate that you are making something genuinely special.

That quest, short as it was, nearly brought me to tears a couple times. Y'alls combination of sound/music design, environmental design, and character animation for something as anatomically stiff as a bear amazed me.

The themes of this game feel really important to me personally, so thanks

[rich ingot]

Such a good quest

[pulsar orchid]

There are many reasons I bought paragon but I think waste bear is the one I'll always focus on

I just knew I'd already been given my money's worth completely free of charge

it seemed only fair to give it back 😂

[jovial oracle]

It's definitely sold me on it, when I have the chance

[viral prism]

omg drackore

the journal looks awesome

[dim coral]

THE THIRD NOTE

THE THIRD NOTE IS REALLLLLLLLLLLLL

[viral prism]

even the animals have journal pages!!!!!

[viral prism]

OMGGGGG

WE CAN DECIPHER IT

[dim coral]

forget pirating i will get to work on this at once

[viral prism]

guess what....

the shrimps have a journal entry

WOOOOHOOOOO

[rich ingot]

Does it mention them sitting On chairs?

...wait

[viral prism]

they are all locked, wer still have to iunlock them

but also all the agari have antries

[rich ingot]

@long briar Is there a mockery entry? Can this be maybe the final piece of the puzzle?

[viral prism]

the animals

mockeries

[rich ingot]

This may be it then...

[viral prism]

i think even that circle thing is the floating head from the cript!!!

there are 59 foes we can unlock 💀

this is the biggest lore dorp ever

if they all have meaningfull entries

[dim coral]

damnit where'd i leave my envoyscript

[viral prism]

screw pirating i am just gonna kill some enemies to see the journal entries

[pulsar orchid]

Hahaaa amazing

[dim coral]

alright found it

[viral prism]

The lore map will be grand

[viral prism]

drackore

even the slugs have entries 😭

[long briar]

i'll check after a look around

[dim coral]

......wait a minute

[pulsar orchid]

good, they deserve it!

[dim coral]

the first two words are 'Dearest Envoy'
i now recall someone already had this note from a bug/leak somewhere

[viral prism]

Each mockery type has an entry it seems

[pulsar orchid]

did they add the female/dog/pig/clay ones? Or is it still just the basic and armoured mockeries?

[viral prism]

I can see the shadow of the normal, armored, thrice bound and the dungeon Agari one

So 4 entries total

heum

in order to "scan" enemies, we first need to complete chapter one of orlick fable

but heum, the first objective is very confusing and i can't see which ones I did already?

nvm i figured out what to do

[pulsar orchid]

rip I'm excited for the animal mockeries lol but hopefully big mockery preludes in future

[viral prism]

i am just stupid

[magic hemlock]

mal ne frage Wie komme ich als Founder zurück in den Pre load Discord server finde meine einladung nicht mehr?

[viral prism]

this is an english server only sorry!

[dim coral]

yeah, the third note is this one

[viral prism]

the third note for Tuvalkane is an orlick note?

[magic hemlock]

ok I m a Founder and i need a Invite for the Pre load server i cant finde my invite anymore

[dim coral]

evidently

[viral prism]

the prelude server is no more it's only this server now

[magic hemlock]

ahh ok ty

[viral prism]

also the orlick quest i am pretty sure is just the now progression system of his

it is named as a fable as wlel

but is only seen with him in the nightfold

and not your journal

[dim coral]

the text i have translated so far 100% lines up with this

unfortunately i cant find the note at this supposed source

[viral prism]

god there is so much new lore i love it

[viral prism]

that's weird tbh 😅

but i guess it is handed to you when you give the quill to him?

or it is a note in the nightfold.

there is no note in the nightfold

[dim coral]

Final translation:
||Dearest Envoy||
||I write to you now with the quill you returned to me.||
||i would be writing my book, if not for this ruckus!||
||The ode blast away our histories! I cannot focus! I know you will fix this.||
||Vexedly yours||
||Orlick||

[viral prism]

why would this be for the steelsinger man what??

alr

orlick just dumps a lot of lore on us

drackore we gonna have to read this over a few times to make sense of it all 😅

he says we are an actual direct decendant of Kane

[pulsar orchid]

Can't wait 💚 feeling pretty bummed out about the runes on charged heavies right now, but I'll probably be in lore mode over the weekend after I've eaten lol

[viral prism]

yeah the shield rune is dead

I am playing with it now and oh lord... i can't stop the beam once I activate it

i can't do anything during it

[pulsar orchid]

Well I mostly prefer the new rune effects personally, nerfs were needed (though I haven't tried durglint, that doesn't sound fun lol) - it's just a shame we lost the fun of charged heavies for now 😂

[viral prism]

it locks me from doing any other attack input

oh....

there is....

nothing

[foggy prairie]

Is that a new icon for the sineculum?

[gritty fiber]

Yep

[viral prism]

oh damn yeah!!

[foggy prairie]

Nice!

[dim coral]

"Pull spears from Blighted World Tress"
.....so i've done all that already, what now

oh wait it's tracking smites

[viral prism]

yeah

it already auto completes most of them if you done them already

alr i can now start scanning everything

i have the three first scribers

[novel oar]

Thank you, pretzeled-man

[brittle dew]

envoy. am i cringe

guess i'll be doing all of orlick's quests tonight if they all give such rewards
(translation: unalerted enemies glow under spectral sight)

[willow geode]

Man, is there really only 1 entrance to the new dungeon?

[foggy prairie]

It's only a preview of a dungeon type to come

[willow geode]

Shame because it's so good. I'd like each of the towers to have an entrance

[trail chasm]

equiped duelo but nothing happens

[viral prism]

alr it seems that in order to actually scribe the enemies you can't have them be killed and drop their smite?

cause i have smitten the slugs a few times but they were always killed after the smite came active

and it didn't award me with a journal entry

i see now

some require a lot more smites

and need to be collored in

[brittle dew]

so according to orlick, the ode script is called the ode'n silistyl

unless that's just a fancy way to call languages in general

[viral prism]

yo future Aurum Canus dungeon tileset?

it sounds like it is a big ass place under the college

[north yarrow]

would someone tell me where the new quest starts?

[thin furnace]

im so happy that p14 is here ty DEVS ❤️

[brittle dew]

ORLICK GAMING

[gritty fiber]

Ghost ship in the distance huh

[brittle dew]

orlick quest spoilers

[halcyon cobalt]

has anyone else had the issue of only getting 2 out of the 3 fragments for Duelo? I finished the fable, but I only have 2/3 instead of the 3/3 i assume you get when you finish the quest.

[dusk musk]

Does any1 know how to do "Recover Navalha and return Mestra Carmo to safer shores."?

[halcyon cobalt]

just means to do the shipwrecks. you get the rapier on the 3rd shipwreck

[dusk musk]

yeah, i have the rapier, but what should i do now
i have 2/3 pact parts

[halcyon cobalt]

that's the exact same problem i have.

maybe just build the rapier?

[oak gazelle]

should just get 3 from the tale you could try to relog if you haven't since the hotfix. If that fails avakot(merchant) sells quest pact shards.

[halcyon cobalt]

Great, thank you!

[mystic oxide]

With the flavor of Preludes 14, one can only imagine the variety of other lands and cultures on Alca. Midrath is starting to feel crammed! 🤪

[dim coral]

there's cassia to the far north

[north yarrow]

i think i cant progress the quest. is the sword im supposed to pull out supposed to hover midair and not being interactable? tried the spirit mode soul yoink thingy and that didnt do anything either

[rich ingot]

Are you wearing the Duello Ribbon?

[north yarrow]

i thought i might need to do that but it is neither in my amulets nor my headgear. is it chest or legs?

[rich ingot]

Head iirc

[north yarrow]

mh i didnt see it despite crafting and picking it up. i try relogging

relogging worked, it appeared in my arsenal

[brittle dew]

finishing orlick's quest line allows you to ||rename your journal||

you're given a list of options to choose from, this is one of them ("Alca's Almanach")

[visual isle]

So i gotta go and re level nearly every singly weapon that i didnt already have an old blessed joinery in because they all defaulted to saphene.

I just finished leveling everything

[dim coral]

kill 5 bosses and do 15 smites, oh boy.

[remote zephyr]

What happens if we have no world trees left to pull spears from?

[young yarrow]

do any of the Cogah's talisman upgrade?

[brittle dew]

the quest advances automatically

[remote zephyr]

oh
mine didn't and I have the whole map unlocked 😔

[brittle dew]

:/

[summer basin]

anyone else found the new fort getting built at Turret Jotar?

[dim coral]

it's getting an expansion, more like

[summer basin]

theres loot inside and the 2 big doors can be opened from inside too

[worldly jewel]

someone did share a screenshot of it actually saying "Siege of Turret Jotar"

[rich ingot]

Relog then interact with a tree

[remote zephyr]

relogging seems to have advanced it 👍

[worldly jewel]

found it

[rich ingot]

Does it actually work yet?

[worldly jewel]

noooo idea.

OP of the screenshot couldn't find a way in afaik

[summer basin]

I didn't find any boss inside

[worldly jewel]

so might be either a hotfix addition or a P15 thing

[summer basin]

maybe ill try getting it to say siege then have a look

[dim coral]

pair of giant locked doors, first door can be unlocked from the other side but you can parkour your way into the main area

[summer basin]

yeah good ol bromius helps

[plain jetty]

by any chance has someone spoiled the ribbon locations yet? kek i have only found 1 atm

[west nebula]

Wait is Mestra Carmo portuguese/brazilian?

[worldly jewel]

somethin like that

portuguese references have been made previously anyway about her and the stuff

[plain jetty]

nvm has tracker

[west nebula]

Yeah the "navalha"/"espadarte" are really telling

I can't wait for the soundtrack to release

[finite tree]

Yes… and through some assistance even snuck in…

[static beacon]

what name did y'all choose for your book

does it have impact ?

[pulsar orchid]

50 shades of ode

[brittle dew]

there's nothing inside

you can get past the first door by scaling the cliff from the right

the second door needs a key but i couldn't find one, so i got past it with the bromius jump

only thing of note past the second door is a jotar statue

[stray olive]

Has anyone been able to get the armour set for Maestra? I've been to all the shipwreckages while wearing the ribbon after finishing the quest and haven't seen any new duels

[plain jetty]

are the new items inc the armor all from the new siege?

well xept the the sword that comes from the quest along with the pact at least

[lone heron]

Currently on the quest “a title” not sure what to do in the tower after reading the note

[pulsar orchid]

well the armour's not because it comes from here:

and then the other armour is from here:

You can see them all on https://forums.soulframe.com/topic/10655-soulframe-preludes-14-the-duelo/

[plain jetty]

thanks i just skimmed through the patch notes

[stray olive]

Okay after a quick relog, I did the duels at the shipwrecks and never got a fragment for any of the armour parts. Either it's just rng or they are bugged

[plain jetty]

man im gonna hate farming the armour

[sage jewel]

Can I just buy the armor and weapon from the camel and just support the game

that’s what I been doing every since the camel just buying stuff not worrying about using the blacksmith. Sometime I don’t have time for all that work and all it’s easier

[stray olive]

You can yes

All of them are in the shop from this update already

[lone heron]

“Book” iykyk

[dim coral]

god this miniquest is dragging you all over the place

[mystic wolf]

how am i able to get the mestras uniform without buying it??

[brittle dew]

search shipwrecks on the coasts of midrath

i found a fragment for the helmet that way

[jovial oracle]

Hoo boy, that Duelo is uh, tough eh? Really just never stops attacking for even a second

Wouldn't mind so bad, but having to chase the quest down across the map after each loss is maybe not the best design choice for the fun of the fight

[dim coral]

vast voices takes you halfway across the map, and there are 5 entries

[jovial oracle]

Fraid I'm not sure what you mean?

Cuz I'm currently under the impression that this fight will continue to move shiowrecks eternally until I win yes?

Or am I misunderstanding?

[strong crest]

yo someone genuinely help me before i quit 😭

[jovial oracle]

Make sure to go to the very top of this area, solution in spoiler tags ||as you follow the lightbeam down, you can hit (mostly) each of the mirrors its bouncing off of (with ranged attacks) to change the angle till it gets to the bottom, where theres one last mirror to move by hand and one to hit above the door to open it||

[strong crest]

yo im ngl this too difficult for me to understand 😭

[remote zephyr]

Is she meant to appear in the nightfold? Got a notification but she's not there

[jovial oracle]

So, if you manage to make your way all the way to the top in this zone, the sun is coming into the undercity through the big open roof right?

||Well, its bouncing off a series of circular mirrors, making that light beam

Each circular mirror can be hit by throwing your weapon (or shooting a bow/spell), and when you do, they'll change angle, changing where the beam goes

Each one you hit, you'll know its in the right spot if it hits another mirror and bounces further down the area (some mirrors have to be hit to be like, knocked down into place as well)

And doing that as you follow the beam of light, itll eventually reach the very bottom where the lone tree and the big doorway are

Getting the beam to point to the spot above the door will open the door, once you hit the very last mirror thats sitting above said door||

[hallow parrot]

yooo wth

[strong crest]

bro all i had to do was go down to the bottom

[jovial oracle]

Aw dang, the mirrors were already in place 😂

That happens sometimes

[stray olive]

Do you know which shipwreck you got it at? I have done 7 of them and no loot at all

[jovial oracle]

Do you have to win the fight to get fragments?

[stray olive]

I have won each time and nothing

[jovial oracle]

Interesting, well, seems it's probably something I'll have to wait on till that gets solved

The hard fight is one thing
The chasing it is another
But to win and not be guaranteed the reward, then still have to chase it?

I think I'd rather wait a bit and see if they adjust that 😅

[austere robin]

hmmmmm

[carmine kernel]

So it's not just me who thinks the fight is unnecessarily hard?

[austere robin]

heh, i disarmed the flintlock lol

[kindred ermine]

Does someone know if the book name's choice has a consequence more than the book name ?

[normal mist]

is there a cool down for when you can try for a duel armour fragment?

am I going to the right places for it?

[normal mist]

nevermind I found it

no fragments

[trail chasm]

can't complete this after a sparrow tale nothing happens

[normal mist]

ducklings

[viral prism]

sage Rodrich let's gooo

what a G

[worthy pendant]

indeed @summer basin and @worldly jewel this is new !!! lets goooooo

[viral prism]

finally turret jotar was an actual livable space where Muireall Jotar could live and not just a little square tower

[worthy pendant]

how you get into castle itself at the new enemy base (white doors closed) ???

[worthy pendant]

hopefullly they will unlock other castles as well...

[austere robin]

if you have bromius, the cliff on the east side of the castle leads to a wall that you can rump thump onto

[viral prism]

alr, lore drop of the spyder language

the spell orlick makes says 4 words in Spyderlect

[worthy pendant]

thx a bunch @austere robin

[viral prism]

he says: Algamest, Amaranthine, Infantrux, Moro

maybe all of those are certain Spyderfolk deities seeing as Algamest is once again here

and birthed the first off the Weavers

[austere robin]

this spot right here to be exact

mind you the cliff face is all slideable terrain so youll have to do alot of spam jumping until you get onto ‘flat’ ground

[worthy pendant]

this little cliff jump was tricky but got to the wall

[austere robin]

and if you want to get past the 2nd door you just

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1357849633723908188/1494952245958021191/2026-04-18_01-44-16.mp4?ex=69e47a46&is=69e328c6&hm=58c4f164e61643fd4e604f6beed08b14ffaea255f48e58770ebfa6f0ac0c10f6&

[worthy pendant]

HOP OVER - instead of trying to break down the wall, by standing on outer ledge, i bear-jump and targeted a point within the castle

LOL now it opens from within 🙄

[brittle dew]

complete 3 of them, not just one

[austere robin]

well yeah, you are on the side the keyless locking mechanism would be

[tawny orchid]

What are the new ingots for?

[austere robin]

probably related to the upcoming P15 crafting change

-# thought if we’re gonna have to gather smaller resources to make a bigger resource for crafting, idk how well that will sit with the community

[viral prism]

i mean its fine tbh, makes more sense than to just use straight up scrap metal

though how much small resource it is gonna cost? that will depend if it will be fine or not

[austere robin]

i mean if they make the smaller resources more acquire-able/drop more per loot it could work, but atm brass for sure is the hardest material to come across unless you dedicate farming it

[loud cave]

Just finished the new fable and put everything I got into crafting. Where do the armor fragments drop from?

Do we really need to redo every fable for Orlick's progression? Torment Stag was pretty long from what I remember

[worthy pendant]

PARKOUR - managed to enter last inner door, thx to bear-jump all around the fort walls - still dont know where key drops (chest i missed or boss that didnt spawn ? )

PS - theres nothing there other than singing to stump 😢 waiting for the siege red balloon

[trail chasm]

No u don’t need to

[brittle dew]

this looks heavily work-in-progress

did it yesterday

[viral prism]

yes there are many more mines scattererd around

[viral prism]

the journal entries are really weird. I did the Agari boss Knell Knight two times, and both time i got a little bit of the entry when smiting him. It was not completed and i have since done some mockeries and other medicant enemies and none of those entries show any progress. I now see that I suddenly have Knell Knight completed???? what is going on here???

[brittle dew]

it's bugged

once you relog it'll be back to normal

[viral prism]

damn

[shrewd sundial]

Or they will all be gone.

[brittle dew]

depends how much you've scanned i think

[ocean fox]

ANyone got any invite codes?

[worthy pendant]

REMINDER - at tree tags dont take multi-quests at same time - i took all 3 (witch i couldnt do before update 14) and it bugs all quests => there wasnt a midstrel center village / messenger didnt drop a scroll after i killed him

nothing like a reset of game i guess... loged off and back again - now quests work!

[shrewd sundial]

Has anyone found the Sinecure Officers?

[foggy prairie]

Anyone know where any of the new items or armor drops?

[viral prism]

new Adderstone at mirifuir!

[foggy prairie]

I just found one

[shrewd sundial]

Where about?

[foggy prairie]

It was at the end of an undercity

[shrewd sundial]

Was it just called "Sinecure Officer"? And did it have a mace or an axe?

[foggy prairie]

It was called Sinecure Officer but it looked like one of the Bannerets with a mace

[shrewd sundial]

I see. Bannerets have been replaced with Sinecure Officers and Gruulseeker Selvins.

[foggy prairie]

It wasn't agaric so I doubt theres a cool down

plus in the one I found it in there was one of the dungeon agarics

Stag Officer in glades

[viral prism]

what is this description 😭

DE you can't make it this superficial!!!

[foggy prairie]

Gourdo at end of Neathuns

[shrewd sundial]

90% of the descriptions are half-baked.

[viral prism]

i really hoped they wouldn't go the warframe route and just do some nothing burger descriptions... 😔

[foggy prairie]

I'm more willing to believe that its mostly superficial because the writing isn't all there yet

and not as important as other things being worked on

[viral prism]

that is true yeah. I really hope so

even the Agari have such a dissapointing description

[foggy prairie]

If you bow to Mestra before the fight she says you have good manners

[gritty fiber]

Gotta be a deep bow, a normal one isn't respectful enough

[foggy prairie]

Yeah thats what i meant lol

[stable zenith]

I think I am too unskilled for the last fight of the duelo quest 😅

There are too many of them

[gritty fiber]

By the way you can jump on these things for extra loot in the new dungeons

[foggy prairie]

run full courage, the hp and armor is just better

[pearl birch]

How do we get Mestro's armor set, again?

[viral prism]

by wearing the blue ribbon again and start a duelo at the shipwrecks

[mossy tulip]

Question: do we know where all the skytower dungeons are?
I assume Stroaic and New Viscii both have one, but are there any more?

[viral prism]

i have only seen the New viscii one

[pearl birch]

The three from the quest?

[viral prism]

but those dungeon sets are only a preview and not the whole thing

[viral prism]

no the item Duelo Ribbon

equip it as a headpiece in your arsenal and then go to one of the shipwrecks again

[pearl birch]

Apologies, I was talking about the three shipwrecks from the quest.

[viral prism]

ah there are multiple shipwrecks i believe

but yeah you can go to one of the quest ones

[pearl birch]

Must be strange luck. Only in Birdie's I saw the first duello challenge. Understood, thank you.

[timid torrent]

What am I looking for at the "follow rodrich's trail through Salzbrim" step of the Burning Sage quest?

[finite tree]

In salzbrim I believe the ||upper area, there’s a note in one of the houses||

[timid torrent]

Finally found it. I ran around and through these three buildings so many times before I saw it: || on a crate next to a wheelbarrow||

[desert wedge]

Is there anyway to|| change the name of the book once selected?||

[viral prism]

nope

[desert wedge]

Damn, fair enough thanks! It's a tough choice knowing it'll be there possibly for years to come ha

[tender thicket]

The more we learn about the Wazzard of wastes and Orlik, the more I wonder if they knew each other in life, as they are rather similar. In life, they were both scholars, researchers, even, in a sense, scientists, trying to figure out how alca worked

[viral prism]

the names of the crypt enemies:

• Crypt Crawler: the floating heads
  -Fallen Jotar: the ghost we fight

this means that they are all clan jotar members

[tender thicket]

my headcannon is they might have even been colleagues that ended up taking vastly different paths

[viral prism]

could be a very cool direction to see

also it seems like the Wazzard of the Wastes and the wrath of Wastes are two different beings

also the shrimps are called Baliq's when they are corrupted and Lanternbugs when they are not. So in the future we really might see passive shrimps roaming around

[jovial oracle]

Not at all, I find it very difficult since there's next to no time to breathe, and I deal less damage per hit to this enemy than I do the harder siege bannerets

[lavish vapor]

Out of curiosity, ||which name did you guys pick for the book? Kinda torn between Alcan Almanac and Codexicon||

[quiet junco]

I went with ||Alcan Almanac|| though ||Book|| tempted me because funny

[lavish vapor]

I was a bit tempted as well, ||though I'm not sure how much I would like being stuck with "book" until they put an option to change it.|| I think I'll go with || Alcan Almanac || too in the end, || Codexicon has a nice ring but it feels less specific, could be from anything. Alcan Almanac is more Soulframe-y ||

[viral prism]

||i picked Alcan Almanac||

[brittle dew]

same

[viral prism]

that one just fits the best

[brittle dew]

i thought none of the other options were remotely as good as that one

[viral prism]

cause like the three above i get that they have to do with ||your virtue alignment but they just don't fit as titles for a book that is supposed to be the journal of the world and Envoy||

||Codexicon || is just idk really weird to me and then you have ||book just straight up book ||

[obtuse cliff]

I haven't played in months, have they worked on the Plot at all? Last I played there wasn't anything to do but wander around aimlessly until something randomly triggered and you had to collect the camp people for crafting.

[desert wedge]

||Alcan Almanac||, does feel weird when ||reading the sentence "I will consult/read my Alcan Alamanac" but I like the meaning of it, makes sense and matches the Soulframe feeling||

||Codexicon was a nice nod to Warframe even Orlick finds it to be odd||

[mystic spire]

||It is absolutely funny to just see map book inventory||

[dusky fossil]

I only entered the new dungeon bu the music and aesthetic of it is fire 👀

[sand kraken]

||new ancestor in the nightfold? Do we see them? Can we interact with them?||

[foggy prairie]

One of the new swords drops the the boat duels as well right?

Not just the armor?

[brittle dew]

you get the narvalha at the end of the new fable

the armor you get from subsequent duelos

that's it

[foggy prairie]

Yes but isn't there a different sword that also drops from the post quest boats?

[mystic spire]

Yup

[brittle dew]

nope that's from the new siege

at least according to the official update forum post. haven't got a frag of it myself yet

[mystic spire]

Yeah was just about to correct

@foggy prairie

[foggy prairie]

Okie, A freind of mine was saying they got Espadarte from the boats, so was confused

[mortal girder]

that was a bug from the launch

[foggy prairie]

ah okie

[mortal girder]

before the hotfix

[mystic spire]

The spagetthification is already beginning lol

[mystic oxide]

Have you met the bear and the stag?

[obtuse cliff]

Yeah, the Stag.

[mystic oxide]

The bear has a teeny bit of new info in his arc

And two beautiful songs that go along with it. Highly recommend looking them up on Spotify/YouTube after you complete the quest.

[brittle dew]

how to not get got at the end of the mirifuir siege

[foggy prairie]

@pulsar orchid Sorry for the ping, but any known reference prior to this update of Ilys? I don't see anything on the wiki

[pulsar orchid]

I've not seen the name Ilys before, so that's likely a P14 thing! 😄

(and dw feel free to ping me anytime, I love soulframe lmao)

[foggy prairie]

Its something Wazzard says in new dungeon, "Culveer! Ilys!"

[shrewd sundial]

Oh, Tree Tongue? I love Tree Tongue!
-# Oh, dear, that sounds wrong.

Culveer is Ode'n, obviously.

[foggy prairie]

He wasn't using Tree tongue, he says in one of the entrance lines that he's trying to learn the Oden Silisys(spelling?) or Ode Tongue

[shrewd sundial]

Just as good. More Ode'n Silistyl (Silly Style).

[mystic spire]

Silly string language

[foggy prairie]

Wazzard aslo refers to the Silistyl as the language of the stars, which is interesting

[pallid nymph]

Makes sense seeing as the Ode worship stars

[foggy prairie]

hehe

[sand gyro]

this skeleton is too big to be an envoy or a regular human, I wonder what it could be..

[rich ingot]

"attack! Kill!" Maybe?

[foggy prairie]

Hmm yeah

Potentially the invocation of the name of their god of destruction could be meant as a command or verb to kill or attack

[rich ingot]

It would be like calling war "Ares"

Could just be the verb for Destroy

[leaden kettle]

Yo, does the founders pack contain a key?

It's not very clear

Nvm, it's a big banner, I'm just a blind bat.

[fading viper]

Mestra Carmo doesn't show up in the Nightfold at all, right?

[rich ingot]

Don't believe she does

[viral prism]

we see the same thing with Spyderlect

were Orlick says Algamest out loud for a spell

[runic musk]

how do i play thia game
like whay do i have to do

[viral prism]

first of all we don't spam all the chats

second there is a pinged message in envoy gathering

wait you got the game already right? Well then just play

[viral prism]

and read

they literally say what you need to do most of the time and otherwise just explore and use your bird

[runic musk]

i dont have the game i want to get it

[viral prism]

alr then check pinged message in envoy gathering

[runic musk]

where is it

in

[viral prism]

bruh

hold on

[viral prism]

#envoy-gathering message

next stream is next week friday

[pulsar orchid]

No, Culveer is the Ode'n constellation of destruction

Ilys (or Iyls, I've seen two spellings thrown arround?) is a new name, but presumably another Ode deity like Culveer, Sidae and Rovgot

[rich ingot]

So "Attack! Destroy!" Maybe

[pulsar orchid]

Oh like they invoke the deity's name as a command in and of itself? Yeah that could be it

[runic musk]

so i have to wait till next stream

[rich ingot]

Gods are often considered to be the things they are gods of, so them sharing a name would fit

[viral prism]

we have another one for the Weaver people as well maybe: Amaranthine

used in the spell for immortality

[fading viper]

where is the skytower dungeon? i'm at the one at Stroaic but I'm not seeing an entrance

[pulsar orchid]

I think it's only at New Viscii right now from what I've heard

[tender thicket]

Has anyone figured out what the glowing pattern on orlicks old scroll in the College of Pensives is about

It only shows up when you look at it in soul mode

[echo topaz]

I have bested the Mestra

did the quest blasting He's A Pirate while using the Duelo Pact lmao

[cursive stone]

so i reached a quest from orlick named "A title" can someone tell what do i need to do to progress?

[quick bobcat]

Back when his grave was next to the collage tower, you used soul mode to locate it by that symbol.

[tender thicket]

Oh cool

[tender thicket]

I got one from the fable and the other from doing a duelo

At least I think I did if my admittedly rather poor memory is to be trusted

[errant sonnet]

Big shroom.

[quick bobcat]

There were spoilers for that in the game last prelude.