spoiler-chat

[echo sail]

Sure, but it'll land on mostly courage or spirit depending basically entirely on how arcanic scaling and the cooldown reduction from spirit plays out.
If a meta isn't bad though, then why is anyone complaining about the courage meta we're in now?

[quiet junco]

Because the other choices aren't worth it at all

The meta we're in now IS that bad situation of "The difference between the best choice and the other choices is massive"

Because Grace and Spirit barely scale things at all

[echo sail]

I'm saying that's unlikely to change. We'll land in a new meta, and by comparison the other options won't appear worth it. They might be replacing our courage meta with a spirit one, but it'll still be like one or two prisms that land as the de-facto choices based on what weapons and pacts scale best at that point on the triangle.

[quiet junco]

But that's an assumption based on nothing at the moment though. Yes there will be a new meta, but there's no reason to think it'll be as unbalanced as the current one

[echo sail]

The caps on weapons might shove that back off the all-in points I feared initially, but really that just removes them as potential meta points.

[quiet junco]

Like, why would we be in a Spirit meta, it boosts cooldowns sure, but not all Pacts care about those, Orengall is another good example

You use your 2 and 3 and sometimes your 1, it's not a spammy Pact, you want more duration not cooldown reduction generally

[echo sail]

Rump thump and tethren's courage ability (brain forgot the name) have to take a nerf first, otherwise courage meta stays. That's expected to happen. HOWEVER, they did say courage would get the higher damage and armor options, so it's possible that will shift into a greatsword meta if they don't also do something about the armor situation.
Spirit happens if for some reason we don't stay in a courage meta, or the cooldown reduction hits hard enough. And even then, it kinda depends on non-spirit arcanics being viable even without getting a lot of virtue spent into them.
Really, in a lot of ways, spirit meta happens because grace can't pull its weight and somehow courage looses the crown.

[rich ingot]

Rump Thump already got heavily nerfed

[echo sail]

I haven't touched bear pact in a while. Guess I missed the patch note.

[sour quarry]

Oh thats why id doesn’t feel like it does damage anymore

[rich ingot]

They made it so armour gives decreased returns the more you have

[sour quarry]

I just thought i was bad at the game

Which I may be but this isnt why

[echo sail]

Specifically I meant enemy armor, and the per-hit damage calculation.

[rich ingot]

No, for Rump Thump, that was the nerf

It scales on armour, but now each point gives less damage the more points you have

[echo sail]

Oh right, forgot that thing scaled with armor.

[sour quarry]

Whats the soft cap then

[rich ingot]

There isn't one, it's a dynamic equation scale

[mystic spire]

Higher meele damage not general damage
So if you use the ranged weapons you want spirit or grace

[echo sail]

My understanding was that the "courage/warrior" class was going to be the class with more damage overall, probably to make up for the lack of range. I get that the other weapons will still scale with their virtues, but melee weapons will do more of it, faster.

Assuming that's the case, and armor sticks around as it currently is, we'll stay in a courage meta and people will just keep smacking things with Purity.

Spirit meta happens if the damage difference between magic weapons and melee weapons isn't high enough to encourage getting in close anymore and/or arcanics remain strong and casting them more frequently results in more DPS.

If the non-spirit arcanics don't hold up well with lower virtue, then we'll probably just stay in a courage meta, and deal with the nerfs to our courage class abilities.

As much as I hate prisms, odds are good most peoples builds do already fall close enough to one of the points they give us on the triangle to be almost no different. So a LOT of what meta we land on is actually decided by what they do to the scaling math on all of this.

In today's version of the game, I think Grace affects ability range? Right? But you won't see hardly any difference in range of a lot of abilities. If similar math gets used on spirit's final cooldown scaling, then... well, you can forget about a spirit meta. Courage all the way.

[chilly merlin]

I have faith that given time DE will find a balance for it

[oblique crystal]

ive finished garen root and unlocked his pact, yet i cant switch to it? im confused?

[mystic spire]

That symbol before garren means its a fragment a.k.a a blueprint

Still gotta craft it

You unlock crafting/blacksmith through a quest

[glass kelp]

at the smith in the nightfold, but you need to do a fable to unlock her

kinda like you unlocked the scribe

[quick bobcat]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Fables

[oblique crystal]

is the map you start on the whole map? it seems rather small, and what is end game when youve unlocked that map?

[modest thunder]

de has said before they consider it tutorial island

so we can expect more maps

[austere robin]

we'll either yoink an ode ship or we'll have a boat to travel.

-# or our nightfold will be how we move around Alca

[pulsar orchid]

DE confirmed boats/ships a few months ago just for a while in the future, I assume

'tallboats' was the exact term most recently used, I think, in one of the Devshorts by Steve

[quick bobcat]

For now. But it's just the tortorial island, as far as DE's plans for the world.

[echo sail]

I hope I'm not the only one praying for windwaker-style boat travel. :lold: ⛵

[quick bobcat]

Windwaker sucked.

[echo sail]

Bite your tongue

[oblique crystal]

This avocado implies i can do quests for faction rep, however offers me none?

[worldly jewel]

npc's will spawn in the overworld with a marker on top of them on the map that you can interact with to start a "faction tale"

[oblique crystal]

thanks

[sour quarry]

Why would we do that we can just walk under the water

[oblique crystal]

markers can get filled? does filled mean completed?

[sour quarry]

Yes you got all the motes

[woven cobalt]

does anyone know how rare The Stultin is to drop from the thrice bound? i want it so bad

[rich ingot]

Doesn't drop from Thrice Bound

Drops from Armoured and non-Armoured mockeries

[woven cobalt]

he weilds it tho, well darn wheres the best place to farm it?

[modest thunder]

go to thrice location on overmap, kill all the mockeries. relog, you spawn a short distance back, go back in.

[woven cobalt]

ah okie

[pulsar orchid]

people often use the kearnhold crypt as a farming spot for the three mockery weapons. Kill all mockeries in the graveyard then relog

same with thrice-bound spot as Minus says

But if you don't want to relog, you can run glades, just not the arena as those have no drops - this method can be good if you need to farm orengall's fang at the same time

[final sage]

Guys do you know if the Wazzard's talisman currently drops correctly? I haven't gotten a shard in weeks..

[crimson solar]

rarest drop in the game from my experience lol

i got 1 bit

[woven cobalt]

what am i supposed to do with this circade crypt puzzle there is something here and idk how it works

[rich ingot]

Which one

[woven cobalt]

1

[rich ingot]

The gems or the wall sigils

There's 2 puzzles

[pulsar orchid]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Festival_of_the_Circade

Here's the full walkthrough for the Festival, enjoy!

[quick bobcat]

3 puzzles. The circade himself and his amulets, the gems puzzle, and the busts puzzle.

[woven cobalt]

umm how long does it take for circade to respawn?

cause i may have killed him not knowing what this event is

or do i have to relog for me to try again?

[crimson solar]

think you can just bang him out, no cooldown

[woven cobalt]

he hasn't respawned since i killed him

[rich ingot]

In the dungeon?

Gotta leave and re enter

He'll respawn every time

[woven cobalt]

ah okie

well im gonna to that castle crypt yall told me ablout and start grinding

[woven cobalt]

man these weapon pieces are rare

[unreal flame]

what pieces, the mockery ones?

one day ill have all the mockery weps

[quick bobcat]

Some are, indeed. I just now got my first spare Royal Tines fragment. I've been playing the game since p6.

And I thought Gath was rare...

[sand wren]

I don't think royal thines even dropped since fairly recently, you got the fragments from torment stag quest and that was it, no spares

[worldly jewel]

ye the fable used to give all the needed fragments (tho it was just 1 back then)

[finite tree]

Please do not ask for codes in this discord.

[rich ingot]

Wait what

Did you just not get it from Torment Stag?

Or is this your first dupe drop, because as dovah said they used to only drop once.

[quick bobcat]

First dupe.

I said first spare. spare = dupe.

[rich ingot]

Ah

Yeah, then that would make sense

[quick bobcat]

It took a couple of preludes for me to get a spare Precklies fragment, and that's considered a common drop.

Also took forever for me ot get the first one, to actually craft the weapon. I was starting to think that all the people saying they had it were lying about how they got it....

[pulsar orchid]

hmm theory

the reason DE changed their minds about corrupted Orengall is because we'll be fighting corrupted Nightling eventually, once we confront Bayor

and that's how we'll end up getting Vadagar Wolf to go alongside the existing two Vadagars

[quick bobcat]

Alternate theory: Not all omen beasts need Vadagar versions.

[pulsar orchid]

It could indeed be the case that no omen wolf ever gets corrupted

I just wanna see it, though...

[quick bobcat]

Mixing things up a bit isn't a bad idea. Less formulaic if some omen bests end up corrupted, needing to be cured, others we get to before the Ode can corrupt them.

I've played some games that lean too heavily into that repetitive "the heroes keep being one step behind" and after a while, those get tiring.

[halcyon cobalt]

I believe this eventually became the giant corrupted Dagg you can find in Ichor zones

[granite forge]

jealousy hits when other people get to play it 😭 great game tho

[void sparrow]

Darkling is probably going to get corrupted, IMHO.

[quick bobcat]

Dogzillas.

[quick bobcat]

Or stuck in an ode dog mind control helmet and used as lure for trap.

[halcyon cobalt]

lol 🤣 i mean they are called Daggs in the lore but who am i to correct a joke

[quick bobcat]

Show me the lore.

[halcyon cobalt]

it's been a while since i've played, but im pretty sure the thawtide hunters say "attack, Daggs!" when you destroy a Chirper

I've destroyed like 30

[quick bobcat]

That could just be someone having a thick accent.

[halcyon cobalt]

I'm pretty sure there was a very specific "Dag" sound with an A instead of an O. Every other word spoken in the Ode'n accent sounds pretty much exactly like English. So why would there be a difference in accents with 1 word?

[quick bobcat]

Actually, some of their stuff sounds like corruption of english, and gets spelled weirdly.

[halcyon cobalt]

I still think it's cool that they call dogs "Daggs"

[quick bobcat]

You can probably find some people in the deep south that also do that.

Or maybe people from jersey.,

[halcyon cobalt]

Found it

I mispelled it. They say "Daags"

From the Soulframe wiki entry for the Thawtide hunter voicelines.

[quick bobcat]

Like I said... That just looks like an accent.

Maybe Synod has trouble saying "dogs", so the ode just adopted "daags" to mean "dogs".

[void sparrow]

Found the Huskies fan😆

[halcyon cobalt]

it says it in the subtitles

[quick bobcat]

Subtitles can be used to show pronunciation of accent.

I speak varying degrees of redneck dialect. I'm familiar with use of text to convey pronunciation of accents.

[halcyon cobalt]

all this stemmed off of me saying that the Dogs that are under Ode’n control were called Daags. a fun fact that was relevant to the topic of the giant Ode Dog in Ichor locales. I didn’t want a whole argument about the actual name of the dogs. Can we just agree that we disagree on this topic? I’m getting tired of replying, plus i’ve got some homework to do

[quick bobcat]

Sure.

[rich ingot]

Asking for keys or codes not permitted in this server, thank you

[rich ingot]

Apologies, but per Server Rule 2 I do need to ask you post in English in this Discord.

[wispy zodiac]

Hey, I have a question: I freed the wolf for the Pact, then it was dark for a long time. Now it's light and the wolf howled, then I attacked enemies but he didn't appear?... Is that normal?

[sonic sequoia]

Not really, she is supposed to spawn, kill an enemy, and proceed the quest.
Relogging might fix it.

[wispy zodiac]

Huhu i killed now 1 hour enemys and the wolf dont come... i also relogged few times?

[rich ingot]

Her appearing and progressing is ranodm, so it can take a while to trigger.

If you're worried that it may be bugged, you're welcome to file asupport ticket as well

[wispy zodiac]

I've killed enemies in at least half the area, I have no idea what I'm doing wrong... he cries every time I relog, but he doesn't appear when I kill enemies.

[rich ingot]

The howl iirc usually means she should appear soon, but again, it can be a bit random and a bit buggy

You're not doing ANYTHING wrong

You just need to keep trying until it works.

[spice condor]

Not sure if this counts as spoiler so I'll talk about it here

I had the thought after playing that the first couple hours reminds me a lot of Ferngully playing as a guy who is teleported/shrunk to another world to fight oil monsters made by people I used to work for (at least Based on Garren Rood's reaction to me after being de-gooped).

Definitely ALOT of differences but if there was inspiration from that movie in there I absolutely love it, I need to rewatch.

[sonic sequoia]

One of the stated inspiration was Princess Mononoke, by looking up Ferngully in the wiki it seems to hit similar themes.

[spice condor]

Probably has to do with how many times I've seen Ferngully vs. Princess Mononoke. I definitely see parallels between all 3

[quick bobcat]

There's also reference to Krull.

Evil aliens with a flying castle and humanoid suits invade mideival world and cause trouble.

[somber ocean]

I'm having a problem with DirectX 12 support in the launcher; the option isn't showing up for selection. My GTX 1080 graphics card supports DirectX 12. Has anyone else encountered this problem and found a solution?

[hollow bone]

Sorry if this isnt the right chat for this. Anyone have a similar bug? My character is always visible through any obstructions

[worldly jewel]

Happens on rare occasions yeah

[jade comet]

I’m pretty bored today, wanna chat in DMs or play a game? 😊

[tranquil lagoon]

Alright dude what the flip

E girl final boss

[worldly jewel]

oh that's interestin

[hidden iris]

Discord be AI screening everyone now a days

[void sparrow]

The default Tempest armor is clearly inspired by Prince Ashitaka, and the Spirit Wolf by Moro the Wolf God. And rescuing a corrupted deer god is a famous plot point.

We also have Kodama spirits, Kami/Omen beasts, and for another reference, a castle in the sky.

[forest needle]

I've got 4 keys for those who want.

[quick bobcat]

DE's also confirmed the "Aliens invading Mideival world" is inspired by Krull.

[quick bobcat]

I think this is what you were looking for?

[pulsar orchid]

thanks, tenor was doing me dirty! 😂

[quick bobcat]

I wonder if Envoy will have to go into a volcano to pull Alcan Glaive from in the lava...

[worn raft]

Don't know where to post this but : I'm willing to farm the medicant king for his armor does someone knows his time for a respawn ? and if there's some sort a technique to farm ?

[worldly jewel]

30min is the intended but it can bug and be 3 hours aswell

no technique

[viral prism]

i am very late to the party and have just seen the new virtue system and i know it looks scary for some people like how certain armors are now locked in a certain virtue but i think this will be an awesome system. In games I very much like the aspect of classes and their gameplay implications and ever since they personified the virtues in Tethren, Sirin and Oscelda, I think the class virtue system really fits the game. However I see that you'd have to actively equip an attuned prism? I feel that doesn't really flow well in the whole game aesthetic. I do like the prism idea and having certain virtue energies imbue the crystal but I wonder they can envision a mouse click imbuement action. What I mean is that on the prism UI there are certain clickable points you can select which imbues the crystal with those virtues and lights it up as seen with the equipable prisms. Maybe a hover texts can be made that presents the name of that select marker? That way DE can introduce new points on the prism that are unlocked with special side quests with a character that presents those virtues? Maybe have us absorb their essence once we complete their quest?

[worldly jewel]

armor pieces are not locked behind virtues.

attunement requirement penalties from weapons are also going away.

[viral prism]

i know i am very late with this and the update is dropping in a few days but I feel like they can do something different then another equipable item

[viral prism]

sry i worded that wrong i think. I just meant that certain armor sets won't be advantages anymore with certain virtues

[worldly jewel]

but you'll always have some points in all virtues no matter which prism you pick.

[viral prism]

and again someone might have said the exact same thing as me i know i am late

[viral prism]

i mean i think that is obvious that there is a baseline but again i just meant that with certain prisms you are directed to equip specific armor sets

i am not complaining about it i think the new system looks promising

and i want to go with the class system but yeah

[worldly jewel]

transmog does exist and they're throwing some moonsteal thread to everyone if Steve is to be believed in that

[viral prism]

i think we can trust steve XD

but yeah my main concern was just the way you have to equip prisms i feel like there are more magicky ways to do it that to actively equip the prism

but maybe the technicallity is tricky behind it idk

[worldly jewel]

but also when it comes to "different points on the prism UI that you can click on", all the prisms do is changes the ratio of how they're distributed to each of the 3 virtues, doesn't really make sense to have like 20 points on the UI to choose from when it's just that 👀

[worldly jewel]

and that is also why the asked for feedback on the system and why they're doing a soulshort where they answer questions about it etc.

[viral prism]

mmh yeah it could be very difficult to choose a virtue setting when they introduce more yeah that is true

maybe it can even be zones you can put a marker on the prism and the game finds the closest virtue settings?

even then introducing more settings becomes a problem

mmh nvm then we shall see how the system feels

[worldly jewel]

not what i meant 👀
i meant there'd be little to no meaning in having minor changes to the distribution ratio like that

[viral prism]

i don't follow sorry 😅

[worldly jewel]

with more than the... 8-10 different ways we will be able to already

[viral prism]

oh that way

[worldly jewel]

ye

[viral prism]

yeah that is true indeed XD

wouldn't make much sense

wait what is then the difference between the warrior of mora setting and then the wyld setting? cause they seem to be on the same place no?

[worldly jewel]

Wyld one is further into Courage while warrior of mora is closer to the middle with a more evenly split points

[viral prism]

mmh i see

[quick bobcat]

The thing is: We're not 100% sure how the system is goinna work. We're waiting on the DE work shop video and the actual p13 upate to see for ourselves.

[worldly jewel]

ye all we have is the "first" iteration of it that they showed us to get our feedback on it

[quick bobcat]

And they didn't go in to deep detail on how that would work. Sorta glossed over it.

[worldly jewel]

yeh

[viral prism]

wait can i do devstream talk already in general chat?

it's just... verminia being able to change your face is scary...

i think she is hella more powerful than she lets on

[quick bobcat]

Well, she's a witch...

[viral prism]

if she want i think she can just change my whole body into a cheeto

[quick bobcat]

Probably.

Good thing she's also your grandma.

[viral prism]

our gene pool is goated: Verminia, Tuvalkane... well i guess there is Orlick...

[worldly jewel]

ye she'll just force you to eat before you go anywhere. until you do look like a cheeto

[quick bobcat]

And Fenn.

[viral prism]

handsome Fenn indeed

and that baby

[worldly jewel]

maybe throw a few dracs your way too but yeah

average grandma activities ya kno?

[mystic spire]

i mean just look at floppet

[viral prism]

yoooo i didn't even think about that

she just straight up gave a rat wings!

[worldly jewel]

not even. she combined 2 animals

[mystic spire]

ye

[worldly jewel]

with a snap of her fingers

[mystic spire]

and based entirely off of vibes

[worldly jewel]

or what was it... like a wave of her hand?

idr

[viral prism]

man she is straight up scary...

[quick bobcat]

Kuato?

[woven cobalt]

have any of yall tried the odiac?

[red lance]

been enjoying it as a spirit sidearm

[woven cobalt]

is it a sidearm or a main weapon?

[oblique crystal]

Erm... gonna need more than that...

[woven cobalt]

i believe those keys open chests with purple flowers on them

[crimson solar]

it's the bigger longer ones, will be one near where you got the key

[oblique crystal]

when you need will-o-frond to craft ...

[eager elm]

U can "rob" them with Sirin while they are on ground, its far easier than trying to kill them

And now they seems a lot more common as earlier

[frozen shell]

you could just sneak up to them and loot it off the main one

[worldly jewel]

You can also just yoink the bulb thing from the big one, then use the first ability of sirin to just instakill all of the will-o-wings

[eager elm]

Will-o-bulb has any use? I remember small ones was needed for Colors, but use for bulb cannot recall........

[worldly jewel]

No idea

I just grab them for possible future needs

[eager elm]

Same here

[oblique crystal]

The issue is needing 25' and not seeing a spawn for an hour, even if i magic kill all 4 of them thats 4 per hour 😄

[civic tundra]

Key

[rich ingot]

Per rule 2, I am going to have to ask you to speak in English on this server, thanks.

[green bone]

wait for a stream

[quasi cove]

HI

How long does it take to be invited to test Soulframe?

[finite tree]

Timing can vary. Make sure you’re registered on Soulframe.com, or watch the next dev stream (Tuesday 4pm est)

[misty hare]

Whoa whoa whoa

It was said to be 4pm ET

[finite tree]

Fair I’m still waking up lol

[misty hare]

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1469342281906782422

This is easier to post and it shows in whoever's own timezone

[neon tulip]

Hey new here Is there a headlight or maybe a torch?

[rich ingot]

Some locations have tempirary torches you can pick up, but you'll drop them soon after

[quasi cove]

I haven't received an invitation to the game yet and if I purchase the founders pack, will I get access?

[rich ingot]

#envoy-gathering message has all the info on how to get access!

[wind mortar]

are the cogah talismans worth?

[pulsar orchid]

Nothing yet, but it's a really good idea! Love using a lantern to explore a dungeon or dark forest.

You may want to add your feedback/thoughts to one of the existing two feedback threads, https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1441092295419232489 or https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1447350129118941357

[austere robin]

i would be concerned that the collision for said lantern would do the thing some of the current lanterns do lol

swinging back and forth at near light speed

[pulsar orchid]

well the existing envoy physics work pretty well don't they? our robes, dangly fabrics, hair, etc all just swings nice and naturally

I think the environmental ones use fewer computing resources for optimisation purposes (which perhaps leads to the glitchiness) but anything on the player character has more resource allocated to it

[worldly jewel]

Oscelda's hair's a bit... too wiggly tbh

[glass kelp]

for crafting? well you're limited for talisman slots so why not, idk if they're the BIS but they only work while you're in cogah so I personally find it easier to just stick with normal talismans

[wind mortar]

Ah, didn't know they could only be used in Cogah. I just saw I had a couple fragments for one and wasnt sure if I should prioritize getting them. I mean, the collector in me will get them...eventually, but if only can be used in cogah its not high on my priority list.

[glass kelp]

you can put them on outside of cogah but the bonus dmg part only works if you're in cogah as far as I know

[half marsh]

can i get an early code from following and watching stream on Twitch by 10 Feb?

[modest thunder]

yeah, just make a soulframe account and link your twitch first

[hasty python]

as far as I know drops will be enabled for the stream

[half marsh]

and i even didn't need to be first come first served on stream to get code?

[modest thunder]

nope, just watch 30 minutes you'll get a code to claim on twitch, and then on your soulframe account

[weary vault]

👀

[finite tree]

Technically there is a light just off the Envoy's shoulder but it isn't very bright and, atm, is a little bugged in dungeons. Soul Sight/Soul Pulse may be your best option for getting a view in darker areas for now

[quiet junco]

Still really want the ability to toggle weapon glow as a portable light

They all give light when thrown already anyway, just let me turn it on while holstered

[wise hedge]

I always use soul sight to see in dungeons, and then I was blinded the first time I did it as tempest lol

[pulsar orchid]

Questions for Sydney:

• Do you believe we have everything we need to decipher the Mockery language right now? Or is there a rosetta stone missing?

• What happened to Primordial Envoys - are they still a thing? What is Wyld Tethren, is it Pothia, or is it just a term referring to the Fey Tethren when she was in the prime of her life?

• Can you tell us a little about Paladine, Verus and Almagest?

• How will the Wyld Omen Beast Pacts work lore-wise - would Wyld Rood be an older rood guardian, Odulf Rood, etc?

what lore questions is everyone asking Sydney on tuesday

[buoyant idol]

on that note, can we get rid of auto-stowing weapons, sometimes i just wanna walk around with my sword out >:c

[hasty python]

would be easier to tell what weapon you have out too 😂

[wanton dagger]

Yes, the attack one gives a nice 30-50 bonus damage per hit depending on weapon

[pulsar orchid]

yesss this! We already have a sheathe/unsheathe keybind, which is an awesome feature, might as well lean into it and not automatically sheathe unless the player toggles it in settings maybe

[visual kelp]

anyone open to play?

[quick bobcat]

Try in #looking-for-group or ask people in the game?

[thick dawn]

Ugh I want a prelude pass

[mystic spire]

Literally tomorrow

[thick dawn]

Oh cool

[mystic spire]

Twitch stream on the 10th
Check out details on the post in the news channel
#soulframe-news message

[void nacelle]

still no update brother ?

[viral prism]

Yo Sydney the goat. She should be in all Devstreams 🙌

[mossy rivet]

Uhhhhh i found this weird thing what is it ?

[worldly jewel]

it's a "history mote" that you can absorb with Q+M1

or whatever your "spectral smite" and "pull smite" are bound to

translates the locations name piece by piece and for certain ones only or the time being, also gives lore

[quick bobcat]

I don't think DE has the lore fleshed out for the named places added in p9. Since P9 wasn't supposed to open the map beyond the starter area, and everything is still WIP.

[worldly jewel]

yeah its still just the P8 and before locations that have full lore

[ripe geyser]

Hey, can I get some help with this, please? Where is the key to this boi?

I've run around for two hrs killing everything and no key yet

[frozen shell]

I had that problem once as well. I think it is supposed to drop from the boss. If I remember correctly, I had to relog

[ripe geyser]

sigh okay then lol

[olive gale]

im doing the bear quest and i am at the part where i have to „plant wevetseeds”, i took one and planted it but it didnt complete the quest and now if i take another one there is no way to plant it like no prompt nothing the character just sits with the seed in hand

how am i supposed to complete this?

[mystic spire]

There's a few spots around the central tree

[olive gale]

found it, thanks

[frank marten]

pretty sure it drops in the bosses loot bag and wont just be given to you atleast from what i remember when i played the quest a long time ago. so you will have to phsically pick it up.

[viral prism]

guys how do you open that one waterfall door again in the glades?

i activate the two buttons but nothing happens?

bruh i just got it byjust shooting them for a couple of times

i have no idea what i did differently

[pulsar orchid]

did you activate the third button or just 2/3?

[viral prism]

just the two buttons i repeatedly shot

there is a third button?

oh and i shot the door a couple times

[worldly jewel]

the button one is only 2, the statue one has 3

[pulsar orchid]

no the button has 3

I'll find the picture to link for you @viral prism

[viral prism]

yeah the statue one has 3 statues you gotta punch but the waterfall door i just thought it was the two button that had to be press

[worldly jewel]

the waterfall one doesn't need more than 2 atleast

[pulsar orchid]

#1458963727503069206 message This video shows the three buttons

[pulsar orchid]

It needs all 3, stopping after 2 will not open it

[worldly jewel]

i've had it open just fine just by hitting 2 ._.

[pulsar orchid]

huh really?? wonder if anyone else has experienced that

I remember my first time and I found 2 but never found the one on the right, had to get the third to have it open

and rubberband seems to be having similar experience needing all 3

[viral prism]

alr.... i definitly did not press that button on the right XDD I just kept shooting the two other buttons (left and back) and suddenly it opened

[viral prism]

that is just it i didn't press the third XD just kept spamming the other two

and the door

[pulsar orchid]

what just by pressing them repeatedly? 👀 how long did it take?

[viral prism]

i shot the door

[pulsar orchid]

that's what I tried when I first found the door but it never opened until I found the final button lmao

[viral prism]

like right when i send that message i got it afterwards XD

i'll see if i can replicate it

[pulsar orchid]

weird, I take it back Wagiii but I wonder if that's an intentional safety net or a bug

[modest thunder]

probably a bug, it also usually opens on two for me

[ripe geyser]

Yeahhh it didn’t drop it the first time, so I did what sarutoba said and relogged. That worked and I got it

[gentle badge]

does this update 13 drops today?

[pulsar orchid]

this week, but we don't know day #soulframe-news message

[finite tree]

We should have more information during envoy hour if it doesn’t drop before then.

[ripe geyser]

Is the req. mats backwards? The yellow is what I need, and the white is what I have?

[worldly jewel]

the yellow is what you have

so you're missing the resource in the middle

[ripe geyser]

oh. Why would the "good" mats be highlighted? lol

When I see a highlight, I think: "Oh, I need that much"

[austere robin]

fractions

[ripe geyser]

Guess so. The choice to highlight the complete mats instead of the incomplete just confuses me, is all. I'm used to it the other way around

How do animal enhancments work? Is everything random on them, or can I base it on some sort of constant like creature type or card rank?

[worldly jewel]

the stats and effects of the totems are set, not random

but getting the totems is completely random as to which weapon the totem will be for

[pulsar orchid]

Totems are explained in full on the https://wiki.avakot.org/Totems page

[open carbon]

Soo still not out yet dang

[ebon elm]

Which of these are harder to get?

[open carbon]

Curaidhs breath Maronite can be farmed in under city coga or glades and bright from avacot igne mora is a dope weapon but can easily be farmed by world bosses the and by doing factionbtales

[ebon elm]

Thanks

[fervent basin]

what's the best place to farm scrap brass?

[pulsar orchid]

fort curlail

[ebon elm]

Should I put this on purity?

[glass kelp]

doesn't purity already scale with courage?

or am I missremembering?

[rich ingot]

It does

[glass kelp]

either way you should wait and seee how the virtue rework changes blessed joineries

[rich ingot]

3 Courage scaling

[ebon elm]

Thanks I'll hold off then.

[mystic willow]

Hey im trying to find the last couple trees to clear my world map this is what i have leftcan someone help me as i have scouared the full length and still cannot find it

[dim coral]

looks like you're only missing the one all the way in the NE

the other tree is on an island in the NW but that is generally inaccessible and can be safely ignored

[teal vine]

Or you can ask others for a taxi there, people love to share the island even if there isn't anything there

[frank marten]

So apparently we did not find everything in the mysterious poem from last dev stream by word of Sydney the narrative director saying that we are close but we dont quite have it apparently and we could use more hands to help in decoding it in #1466905141968896225

[pulsar orchid]

Good news everyone, we've translated the Mockery Language! #1440841974826406032 message

[oblique oxide]

Why can I do this

I can hurt the boss without going down

Nvm. he started hiding

And immedaitely killed the piss out of me

Annnd now im stuck and cant get back to the fight

Im stuck behind the door. I physically cant continue the boss fight after I died.

[blazing thistle]

Which one did you pick?

[teal vine]

The white one, it looks so much like orengall and I love her

[mystic wraith]

I'm anticipating some tragedy around Orengall's final child what with "a soft belly only for her pups" line.
Probably Nightling used to corrupt her somehow. Or maybe even kill her.

[teal vine]

Wouldn't that just mean that she just weak when it comes to her puppies?

[mystic wraith]

Yes, she's weak when it comes to her puppies, and one of them is currently captured by the Ode.

[teal vine]

I thought we got all 3! Nooo

Definite foreshadowing

[mystic wraith]

We got 3, yes. There are 4.

[rich ingot]

hahahahahahaha yessssssss

Progress, finally

[mystic wraith]

After you free Ciar you go to the boss fight, that's where Nightling was being held, but the Ode manage to get her away before you and Orengall can rescue her.

[rich ingot]

The Mockery Language is being solved!

[mystic wraith]

I heard Sydney talking about that on Envoy Hour.

[teal vine]

I barely made it to envoy hour, but I will definitely fight harder knowing the ode took the pup

[mystic wraith]

No I mean Sydney talking about the language being translated.

Nightling being taken is shown at the end of the quest, you see Tempest Bayor talking at her in one of the still scenes.

[teal vine]

Yeah I forgot

I probably was just as mad back then too

[rich ingot]

We, uh, hit a wall for a bit

The hint on stream def helped

[wintry night]

ALLLL

[mystic wraith]

I wish all was an option

[ripe geyser]

He def was one of those.

Idiot.

[hazy marten]

what I find great about that is that, when Bugs Bunny first called Elmer Fudd "Nimrod", it was a sarcastic bible reference (where a man named Nimrod was described as "A Mighty Hunter before the LORD")
most people missed the reference and just assumed it meant "fool" or "idiot"

[unreal needle]

Hello, I seem to be stuck in SoulFrame. I just completed the Bear quest, but I still can't see the entire map, and I'm not strong enough to fight level 30 monsters. There's no way to upgrade my character.

[quiet junco]

You can get stronger by crafting new weapons and armor with the blacksmith Verminia to unlock the map, find the dead World Trees and cleanse them, each one will reveal a portion of the map

[mortal girder]

I didnt know Verminia learned how to smith! Good for her~

[pulsar orchid]

There's no way to upgrade my character

There are many ways. For example, weapons are improved by:

• ranking it from 0 to 30, and it gains stats
• spending your combat arts points in the skilltree
• enchanting the weapon (equipping a rune and 4 totems)
• reforging a joinery into the weapon
• maximising your virtue allocation to the weapon's Attune Cap

Pacts are improved by:

• ranking it from 0 to 30, and it gains stats
• spending your pact arts points in the skilltree

^ have you done all those 7 things? If not, improve your character and then the lvl 30 enemies will be much easier for you.

[mortal girder]

dont forget spending your virtue points

mostly for the HP, but also for weapon scaling

[rich ingot]

Apologies, but per Rule 2 I do have to ask you post in English in this Discord, thank you

[karmic socket]

Shoot I missed the envoy hour. Anywhere I can go to read up on the sparknotes?

[rich ingot]

Mostly just them playing the game, some callouts on the language translation efforts

Envoy Hours tend to be more food for the lore nerds (affectionate) than major updates on anything critical

[karmic socket]

Gotcha. Didn’t know if it was a major announcement or a Q&A or what.

[pulsar orchid]

Yep! Full notes here if you need them #envoy-gathering message

[pulsar orchid]

A mix of both really. I was surprised by how much nice info we got, especially the new miniquests, although I wish Sydney had time to fully explain the Wyld Tethren vs. Pothia thing, alas

[ripe geyser]

Where do I go to use Crypt Keys? I've picked up like 30 and have no idea what they're for

[dim coral]

in a crypt, duh

(you want to find a perfectly square spaced mausoleum like this; there is a coffin that you open with the key and jump down)

[ripe geyser]

ohhhh thank you! I'll look for that

[quick bobcat]

That's a common misconception. The biblical Nimrod was also the guy who commissioned the Tower of Babel as a monument to his own ego, and he fought against Abraham and died to a cloud of insects entering his nose/ear and eating his brain. While some people used Nimrod to mean someone with hunting prowess, by the 1800s, it had become turned around to be used sarcastically, and morphed into "moron". There's a letter some guy wrote about a friend or brother's fiancé being a "nimrod" in context that with the rest of the letter's text, clearly indicates that it's meant to mean "moron". Bugs Bunny was just using what was already a popular insult.

[ripe geyser]

what direction is it in?

[worldly jewel]

the closest one to the only exit to the crypts is near Fort Kearnhold

[ripe geyser]

I found one called Circade? These morons are lvl 34 tho lol

[quiet spindle]

Hello. Please explain the lore of Circade. Is it a time loop? What's going on?

[rich ingot]

He's a man born with three souls, who became the inverse of the three Virtues and was eventually killed by Fenn Jotar

[quiet spindle]

I understood the story, as him being in a time loop, and each time he was born as a representative of one of the virtues. And then he was joined together and buried. And I thought that we also like that, but already united, because we can change virtue.

[weak yarrow]

Hi everyone, how are you? Good afternoon! I’ve been waiting for an invite to test it for months… so far, nothing. Does anyone know how it works. Thank you!

[worldly jewel]

the weekly invites are random, you either get one or you don't 👀
there have been multiple streams tho with twitch drops that give you a guaranteed access code in the past few months.
next one of those is on the 24th.

[glad bay]

I have a spare code I can give you

[full heart]

Can I have the code been watching the game for a long time I’m wanting to play but idk if it’s worth 29.99 in alpha lol

[glad bay]

I actually got a spare one from the stream so yeah Gimmie a sec to find it

[full heart]

Thanks I’ve been watching the streams but no luck lol

[weak yarrow]

I received a key… thank you! 🥺

[ripe geyser]

Where do I find greatsword fragments? I keep getting animals and runes for it but I don't have one

[worldly jewel]

one's from mendicant king, another from faction tales, chest objective drops it fairly often

[ripe geyser]

Okay, do story bosses respawn over time?

[glass kelp]

story bosses? none of them respawn

you can currently find some of the story bosses in the overworld under a different name but it's only wazzard and the stag for now

[mystic spire]

Nimrod too

[glass kelp]

I forgot nimmy was a story boss

[balmy siren]

Question I'm in the crypt of Cicade and just beat the spectre, what are the little jewl looking things and what do I need to do to them to continue?

[rich ingot]

SaraLovesArchery has a great guide on the puzzle related to those!

You can't solve it solo unfortunately

[balmy siren]

darn

how often does the boss respawn?

[modest thunder]

the boss respawns each time you enter

[quick bobcat]

||https://wiki.avakot.org/Festival_of_the_Circade#Circade_Armour_Set||

[amber plaza]

Nimrod also spawn during a Hark The Collector world event

[high grail]

hello, would someone be able to verify for me if this is an entrance to some kind of room (glades of andurin) - and if so, how I'd be able to get into it?

[quiet spindle]

Speaking of Nimrod, he going to die? We killed him in the story, we killed him in the location, we're killing him in the Mada event. Why he won't calm down? Taniks from Destiny have a competitor?

[high grail]

took me some time, but I finally figured it out 😄 and got my second orengall's fang fragment from it too worthh :DD

[mortal girder]

i think Nimrod is more of a title than a singular person. like the Bannerets. maybe they arent entirely human or whatever the Ode are, but like some sort of mad science experiment

[gentle badge]

do you all think maybe this is the day we finally getting update 13?

i have like 11 keys for the game and im waiting for this update so that i can finally inv some friends to play and start with this better version with creation characters better sense of progression and improved combat

[sonic sequoia]

Hope for it, but expect next week.

[spring spruce]

I would die for Avokat

[quiet spindle]

I still think it's better for them to start playing earlier. They'll be able to benefit from the event, get enough resources to craft new items, and, once they know the basics, they'll be able to join with you in various activities.

[sonic sequoia]

Also they would get the Prelude Honour.

[candid marsh]

my next tracked quest takes me to Nimrod but he feels vastly over my level/skill. Am I looking in the wrong place?

[gentle badge]

bigger level can help you with that. just level yourself to boost health and also look what weapons s for skill points like courage,spirit or grace and then boost that specific that your weapon is asking for so that you can deal more damage

[prisma zodiac]

or just use cloudquell potion

[lofty maple]

If you're doing the Brewer of Hues fable, you don't need to beat Nimrod until right at the end (where it will be a lot easier) - you must encounter him twice for the quest to progress correctly, but you don't need to win those fights

[grizzled notch]

What's the big castle to the south with a bunch of locked doors? There a way in?

[modest thunder]

nope, content for it is not released yet

[grizzled notch]

Ah ok, thought maybe I was missing something

Are there more than one siege castle?

[worldly jewel]

there's 2 yeah

total*

[grizzled notch]

I know about the one towards the middle of the island, where is the other one?

[worldly jewel]

very close by

[grizzled notch]

Hmm....

[modest thunder]

Fort curlail is by the starting area, to the east of it is fort kearnhold

[pulsar orchid]

The https://wiki.avakot.org/Sieges wiki page lists all in the game, as everyone has said there's only 2 so far but it'll be updated with the third one, Mirifuir, once that gets added later this year. So that's something to look forward to

[jolly silo]

How are people playing all ready

[quick bobcat]

#envoy-gathering message

[fiery rampart]

May I ask what am I missing here?

[crimson solar]

if u go to inventory you can filter them by weapon type so you'll see, then check here... https://wiki.avakot.org/Enchantments

there's 2 for each type

think it's the longblade everflame

[crimson solar]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Everflame_(Long_Blade)

[willow geode]

Alright, so theres that house at the top of Comber's Levee, and it has a trapdoor that you can see down into but not open. Is that a dungeon exit, or can you get to it? That's been bugging me and i just want to know atp

[burnt canopy]

Its an exit

[willow geode]

alright

thanks

[gentle badge]

today is the day we are getting update 13? 😅🤞

[elfin moss]

We wish😂

[gentle badge]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-shia-la-beouf-do-it-gif-4531935

[mortal girder]

™

[gentle badge]

if we hype enough maybe we will get some news 😅

[mortal girder]

[gentle badge]

hype train

https://tenor.com/view/hype-train-gif-25634015

[glass fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/bleh-gif-2484976909584170518

I mean they did mention friday the 13th in last devstream. So hopefully we get p13 on f13

[quiet spindle]

What does Ancestor mean, they literally our relatives? Just wiki says Zenit is also an Ancestor... but he actually a camel.

[pulsar orchid]

Yup, we don't know yet, kind of unclear on DE's part but as soon as we have any more info it'll be updated

my current understanding is that it's the looser meaning of ancestry, just holding ties to the land and its history etc

[quiet spindle]

Another question that's bothering me. How old is Deora? It's just... she's that girl with the deer. And all the temples with frescoes of her and Garren. How is that possible?

[gentle badge]

Well lets hope you are right 🙂

[marsh junco]

I was wondering why Tuva won't look him in the eye

[quiet spindle]

Won't look Zenit in the eye? Because Zenit has three eyes. I'm guessing the one on the bottom is our grandfather's eye. And if you mean Envoy's eyes... Maybe she's autistic. This explains why she is so sad and unsure, but doing all great and focused on the sounds.

[gentle badge]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-gif-4677175942198662182

[modest thunder]

ah, when the ode invaded they used a weapon known as the spellsong. what exactly it is, how it's used is up in the air but it has been written to say that it makes people forget their histories and culture. so deora was the child with the der in the past, but she was also later brainwashed when the ode invaded

[runic hollow]

magic, The murals can change according to who's alive and ruling.
we also don't really know her species so she could be really old.

[modest thunder]

she's a knightmaiden from dendria, we know that

[worldly jewel]

basically ye
Dendria (adj. Dendrit) - Midrathian kingdom that used to hold control over Midrath for the majority of recorded history.
Dendrit Knightmaiden - a collective name for noblewomen of Dendrit court hailing from Curlail. Known for taking up the arms when The Mendicant King of Curlail and his court died in combat back in 717. Knightmaiden were protecting Curlail since then, until the last known Knightmaiden Lady Deora Curlail was corrupted by the Ode, essentially abandoning her duty as a protector of this part of Midrath. We release her from the Ode influence in the Tormented Stag quest, and now she acts as a double agent within Ode ranks.

[quiet spindle]

Am I the only one who has a hypothesis that the Inquisitor at the very start is our mother? - As I understand it, she saved us and sent us to Grandpa. But during our birthday, when we found the wolf in the cage, we were captured and enslaved. Something happened, and the now adult MC was punished and thrown out. It would make sense for plot, that it was our mother, who had been enslaved much earlier. I also see a repetition of Warframe's leitmotifs in Soulframe, children, betrayal, and mother figures.

I'm also wondering, in the memories, if you choose Sirin or Tetren, does Grandpa also teach magic, and not sword fighting or archery?

[austere robin]

grandfa was a prior envoy, so more than likely he knows magicks

[modest thunder]

not prior, just is. don't know his current status, but it's not something you can really lose I don't think.

[modest thunder]

yes, the woman at the start is the mother. also suspected to be a knightmaiden. as for grandfa, we really don't know more than what we've seen so it's all up in the air on his capabilities

[worldly jewel]

they're talkin about the one that smacked us in the head 👀
not during Warsongs

oooor i just read wrong

[modest thunder]

ohhhh

nah you right

[worldly jewel]

the one in the skycastle or the one in the land castle?

[quiet spindle]

Thrid camel's eye the grandfather's eye? That would make sense, since he doesn't have one eye.

[modest thunder]

I don't think the one who interrogated us is the mother at the start tho... much too short!

[worldly jewel]

ya

[dim coral]

what a pecuilar, perfectly straight line

[dim coral]

oh god this bottle says 33

lightning in a vial just leads you to the discharged nimrod and that's it

[viral prism]

damn the new prisms do give us much more lore regarding the mythologies of soulframe

like how Iridis is the son of Mora and Saphene

and he has 3 sons

[pulsar orchid]

and Oro has countless lidless eyes, and Saphene caused the Felling! Great lore drop, ty DE

[stray olive]

anyone else stuck here? I was able to complete a previous one but now the ducks won't go away

[viral prism]

yeah it's crazy, i haven't read them all cause i can't really get them all at the moment but from what i have read already it is getting wyld

[inland bramble]

How did you get up there after clearing out the bottom i didn't know how to climb to the top

[stray olive]

you have to break all of these, then take the elevator

[viral prism]

they changed the name Almagest to Algamest. Not sure which one i prefer

[stray olive]

elevator here

[inland bramble]

Thanks i had them all broken but the elevator wasnt reacting in any way

[stray olive]

you gotta hit the switch (: I didn't realize it either

but now I am stuck up here with the conductor and the ducks

[pulsar orchid]

In all instances wow, yeah it's changed in Salzbrim's description

[stray olive]

I think it's bugged

[viral prism]

yeah I checked that immeadiatly XDDD

[pulsar orchid]

I think I preferred Almagest too but oh well will use Algamest for the wiki page when I get round to it

[pulsar orchid]

hahaha same lmao it's the place I always remember when I think of Algamest 😂

[viral prism]

but hey anything that only had one mention and get's something else now I'll take it 😂

[alpine marsh]

were do i find the 3 new quests

[stray olive]

Upon restarting and doing the organ again it fixed the bug

[inland bramble]

Same for me i wasnt able to see the lever first time worked 2nd time

[lament forum]

umm expedition 33 xD?

[oblique crystal]

just got home and saw this and thought bridge?

[quick bobcat]

Looks like something new might be coming up for another destructible?

[lone heron]

What do I do with it after killing the guy, I get the Birds Eye view but can’t click on anything

[stray olive]

you need to press 1,2,3,4 in the order it shows you and hit the glowy parts on the organ

or whatever you have music notes bound to

[granite hemlock]

I cannot for the life of me locate the deadwood mini-quest. Any ideas? Something about logging, but I have been to the logger spots I can remember.

[silver saffron]

wolf

[paper vine]

idk if this is the right channel but damn how many puppies did this wold lose😭

[ripe geyser]

What will this do when I infuse it? Does it add one red to my weapon, or turn all nodes red?

[viral prism]

wait damn the organs have lore notes too!!!

guys this is a huge lore day

[viral prism]

i haven't found it either but i was thinking around large areas that have cut down trees like the river area around garren shrine

[granite hemlock]

I have checked that spot.

[viral prism]

wait the mini quests don't gt saved in the journal?

like not even the note you found?

[granite hemlock]

You have to find the notes first.

[oblique crystal]

is arena dead? not see anyone offering it all day?

[viral prism]

i did for the lightning in a vial but it isn't in my journal

and once completed the fable just dissapeared

[forest spade]

how many organs are there ? 2?

[viral prism]

3

[forest spade]

wheres the 3rd? i keep looking at the map and only see 2

[viral prism]

one all the way next to castle kearnhold

one next to comber's leve in the north west
one under fort kearnhold somewhere in the middle/east
and one next to castle kearnhold in the south east (also next to new viscii)

[forest spade]

ah i was missing the one next to viscii

[granite hemlock]

Oh sweet mercy I found it.

[spark tulip]

Does anyone know where those mini quests can be started?

[granite hemlock]

I know all three now.

Taughslane, Kairness, and Skelfies are where they start

[quick bobcat]

It adds one red node.

[pulsar orchid]

omgggg that's so good

honestly if the wazzard outfit wasn't already enough incentive to farm them hahah

[rich ingot]

Wait, ORGAN LORE????

[pulsar orchid]

that's huge

[viral prism]

you wouldn't believe it but we are getting inside on how the Ode legion structure works

each organ drops a note

[granite hemlock]

I think it is automatic. Not like mote hunting.

Well, what I saw at least was lore about the one overseeing the organs.

[viral prism]

yeah it just gives a lore drop once completed

but i mean you got the rank Medis which is probably some sort of High engineer much like Archemedeans in Warfame

and who made the Ode'n Moaners

[viral prism]

apparently the organ will target those if you stand close to them during the first fase and it will just blow it up in a large explosion that can kill Ode around it

it will float a bit upwards when the lightning is about to hit and then gets destroyed

[quick bobcat]

Nice. That one wasn't near an organ, though. Just out in the world.

[viral prism]

oh really?

huh strange

[quick bobcat]

Yeah. Just in the swamp by Creedance high, near where Ruthos spawns.

Random enemy camp there had a moaner and a minstrel. They killed me as soon as I logged in. respawned at stone, went to nightfold so I could gear up to avenge myself.

[lament forum]

https://youtu.be/zI9s4KSU2SQ

[viral prism]

damn XD

[quick bobcat]

I was reading the patch notes thing on logoin and died.

[viral prism]

mmh not sure what it is doing there though maybe a new Organ is about to spawn there in future updates?

[quick bobcat]

Also, we've got a loading screen, now.

[quick bobcat]

New update hit. Everyone's adjusting to it. Nobody's bothering with old game mode when there's new stuff to farm.

[visual isle]

Booo. They made orengalls buff go on cooldown after use.

Atleast we dont have the stupid claw anymore but loosing a permanent smite buff hurts.

[quiet spindle]

The sound of skill cooldowns really scares me. It's such an ominous BOOM!

[cold wolf]

Where does the new boss appear? I can’t find it and I’ve already done the mission.

[quick bobcat]

It's always been on cooldown after use.

[visual isle]

Sorry, i meant after it runs out

So the heal is like once a minute now since spirit scaling is not very good at cool down reduction

[quick bobcat]

Use bow. Arrow hail to proc smites. 1 in 3 chance of blue.

[visual isle]

True but you shouldn't have to do that, they need to do away with cooldowns starting after buffs run out especially since if you arent running full spirit cooldowns take an eternity

[quick bobcat]

Orengall pact is weired. It feels like it should be spirit, but for whatever reason, DE wants it to be grace.

[rich ingot]

They also reduced the smite buff

[visual isle]

Yeah. Grace does nothing for the abilities, but the armor is buffed by grace.

[rich ingot]

This patch was weird. Tethren got a buff and orengall got a nerf

[rich ingot]

Well, it is scaled by the 3 now

[visual isle]

Wolves seemed better but i didn't have much time to play

[rich ingot]

So it does something for the pact at least

[visual isle]

But what does that even give, more grace?

[quick bobcat]

Stick that up in #1438224662344761345 . The changes are new. The cooldown after use thing is something they put in before, and added to more and more pacts. Now, it does seem like maybe it really hurts things with this new setup.

[visual isle]

Im pretty sure i have a post in there about it already

[hidden iris]

Where was that quest?

[rich ingot]

And more smite

[visual isle]

I dont remember if it was pre merge or not tho

[hidden iris]

where did you find this?

[quick bobcat]

But that's part of why we're here. To test these systems and give feedback so that DE can improve the game.

[rich ingot]

Since 3 abilities are all scaled by grace now

1 abilities are Courage

[viral prism]

you find the notes in Kairness

[rich ingot]

And 2 Spirit

[hidden iris]

looks like in the water?

[quick bobcat]

Where's the one for the third mini-quest? I found the one for deadwood, and now you mentioned Kairness for one of the ones I didn't know.

[viral prism]

someone said in Taughslane

[hidden iris]

North West in taughslane

[quick bobcat]

Thanks.

[viral prism]

no just in Kairness. in one of the houses

[hidden iris]

Thanks! Making a quick guyide for youtube and discord gets some credit here. You da best!

[visual isle]

Im middling on this update so far, weapon and armor scaling changes seem good. Pact upgrades being vastly worse is terrible. Pact changes dont make much sense and. Functionally having to build around 1 or 2 abilities just seems to ruin the pacts that have multiple useful abilities.

[pale merlin]

So like... figuring out armor is confusing now...

Oh you got 14 grace? that 15 grace item that is split Grace/Spirit is now not usable. sucks to be you

[visual isle]

Consuming 1/3 of your upgrade points for 4 virtues just feels terrible, and getting much less health, less cooldown speed just doesnt work.

[viral prism]

each armor set has a virtue requirement that unlocks a bonus for the armor stats. Each armor stat is then influenced by a certain virtue (marked by their symbols) with the amount of symbols being the more it influences

[pale merlin]

I just trying to put on some pants

[visual isle]

Maxing out all 3 virtue upgrades gives less health than just leveling the health node used to

[viral prism]

you can wear talismans to up your virtue points as well as upgrade your pact

[rich ingot]

Because Courage gives health now

[visual isle]

Yes, but basically none

[rich ingot]

More than the others. All virtue points give health, Courage gives more than the other 2

[visual isle]

10 upgrad points gives 4 courage and like 50-60 health.

[viral prism]

this just doesn't make sense. the health node is not pure health it is health recovery from hitting your hits/shots. nothing to do with max health

[rich ingot]

That's the new one

Cole means the old one

Which did just give HP

[pale merlin]

They did say they were moving to split up stuff so we can't all be tank mages... but... my fun build

[viral prism]

oh that one. I mean i could never fully upgrade it anyway. I got more health now

[viral prism]

there is a hybrid prism though and they might add hybrid armors in the future so your tank mage build can come back!

[visual isle]

And also, akin, was a massive cooldown reduction, that is just gone, even max spirit isnt as good.

[pale merlin]

Tank mage is often unfair and stuff... I am not panicked yet
Figuring out what is my best options stat wise is like... much more complicated than picking the highest and attributing points as necessary

[viral prism]

my cooldowns are still very fast though? 😂

and i just have 13 spirit

[visual isle]

Then maybe spirit just does nothing.

[viral prism]

tbf I do always get my smites so yeah

[visual isle]

Cause maxing spirit my cooldowns on orengall still feel a little slower than before.

[viral prism]

and smites refresh cooldowns so always get your smites

[viral prism]

how much do you want to spam your abilities though XDD like you don't have to keep spamming romp stomp XDDD

[visual isle]

Bromius is just turbo dead, no reason to run it over tethren, tethren has a lot better defenses and damage.

Im gonna go test moras hand, hopefully the new scaling can make the fire pool good.

[pale merlin]

A lot of gear is now effectively useless to anyone who doesn't change their build up often due to lack of being able to use just whatever

[viral prism]

i have been running mora's hand and did some upgrades to the passives and honestly it is very fun to play with

[pale merlin]

My Idris Attuned Weapon is not usable with spirit

[viral prism]

just setting everything on fire and shooting everyone in the face with a bow

[visual isle]

The virtue upgrades alone killed weapon diversity in pacts so much. The extra 6 potential points would have gone so far in letting us run what we want.

But now if your weapon doesnt match what your pact wants its more dependant on saying f your pact and building whatever virtue your weapon wants.

[rich ingot]

There are hybrid armours

Orengall is Spirit/Grace hybrid

[pale merlin]

Idris attuend weapon still requiring Couage

[visual isle]

Yeah, but it needs a minimum grace to get a good 3rd of its stats.

[viral prism]

i am courage pact and i still have 13 in grace so i can play any bow i want

and bows are very fun to play with

i am not going any courage melee weapons

[visual isle]

Melee weapon scaling actually got a considerable buff.

[pale merlin]

Most of my euqipment is not usable due to scaling with the default crystals

[visual isle]

Marrows bane got 15-20 more damage.

[pale merlin]

I really don't like that now i just can't use my favorite gear at all.

[visual isle]

Id say, bring back the virtue upgrades being 10 total points instead of 4, and up the scaling for health on courage and cooldowns on spirit. Cause right now both feel pretty useless.

Best build right now is almost assuredly grace bow + dagger.

[viral prism]

but which ones are you going for?

[visual isle]

Damage seems to be way up on finishers. And they were already insane with the rune before.

[pale merlin]

I got the one for my origin pact and one for founder type. I have not yet been to the faction to see their offerings.

I'm hopeful they have options which allow things to work but...

...I'm not sure this is a valuable level of complexity.

[viral prism]

yeah that is just what grace does XD. But i mean i am going courage abd i am pretty strong tbh

i don't get hurt much with level 30 enemies

[visual isle]

I mean yeah. Weapons got more damage, but bows and daggers were already really good, and grace seems to be the only one actually scaling well with its bonus stat.

[viral prism]

yeah but what was your starting pact XDD. Also those in the factions are either the hybrid prisms giving more virtue to two of them but slightly less than the normal prism and then the Extreme prisms that have way more in one virtue and little less in the other in comparison to the starters

and Kith = courage, Alca's = Spirit, Rose = Grace

[pale merlin]

The attuned weapon isn't using the attuend stat anymore

I'm well versed in everything up to this patch

Attunements that used to be all spirit are now not

[viral prism]

i mean have you tried Marrow's bane with full courage? it does give a lot more damage too

[viral prism]

Gathannan is courage????

well that just doesn't make any sense yeah XD I see the problem now XD

[pale merlin]

Attuned my Needleseye to Spirit forever ago

[viral prism]

welllll.... tbh it was said that courage was for melee weapons, spirit was for magick weapons and grace was for bows and short blades I think?

[pale merlin]

What is attunement then?

[visual isle]

Purity being 3 courage 2 spirit is kinda funny tbh

[pale merlin]

Just bonus from side stats?

[visual isle]

And needleseye being old purity

[viral prism]

well you have virtue requirements that will unlock your damage bonuses. and the damage bonus is influenced by the attunement (more symbols means more bonus). Joineries now add an extra symbol to your attunement list and adds more damage for a certain virtue

[pale merlin]

"Damage bonus" is a "Pentalty for not having enoug"

[visual isle]

Yup

They just made it from completely useless without, to borderline useless without

[viral prism]

in this case the amount of courage virtue will give a certain damage bonus with this attunement 3 X stronger with courage

and then with your joinery 1 X Spirit virtue

[pale merlin]

So now attunement is just a bonus added for a hybrid stat, or possibly adding an extra stack of attunement to the same?

[viral prism]

it still does 112 damage though XD

[pale merlin]

Can you make a 3 courge into 4 couage by blessing with Mora?

[visual isle]

For a greatsword tho

[viral prism]

yeah basically. Adding courage joineries just adds a fourth courage symbol

[viral prism]

yes

[visual isle]

Thats not a lot.

[pale merlin]

Adding a 4th symbol is going to mean a big jump in specialization stat wise... how is

How is this going to discourage Courage meta?

[visual isle]

It should have been a threshold for either stat tbh not just the one

[viral prism]

so like it is a greatsword..........

which means you'd want to go warrior no? and not Mage nor Rogue....;

which means!!!!! you'd have the courage

[visual isle]

Because grace is the damage meta now

[pale merlin]

Cause its crit im guessing?

[viral prism]

and maybe well maybe..... you need 2 more courage points.... so add in the talismans and voila problem solved

[viral prism]

the finishers are just stronger

and well Grace you go for a Rogue build which means doing a lot of finishers XDDDD

[visual isle]

I dont know what its doing but dagger finishers are doing a ton more damage and bows got a damage buff sooo, here we are.

[viral prism]

yeah finishers and bows. Grace is just that

and courage is melee and spirit is magick

if you wanna go doing finishers go grace, if you just want to swing your sword go courage, if you want to sling away with staffs go spirit

[pale merlin]

Why is Odiac half Courage?!

[viral prism]

bruh DE you are NOT helping me with this 😔

well to be fair that is just attunement no?

isn't the requirement spirit?

[pale merlin]

This causes range lock. Your class plays at a set range, with only courage being up close. No having options.... oh maybe Crit melee Grace too. Grace clearly favored child this update.

[visual isle]

Testing spirit and all in on spirit seems to be around 80% of what akin used to be.

That is so rough when it took 4 upgrade points before and didn't affect your build, and now takes 11 points, and requires your entire build be made around it.

Amulet, oscelda wyld virtue. If youre not a founder you get maybe half of what akin used to give.

[pale merlin]

This is less options

[visual isle]

Yeaa

[pale merlin]

There is no Spirit attuned Beast armor

[visual isle]

Definitely not what they were going for.

I dont know why they are doing light medium and heavy class rather than having each for each category.

[pale merlin]

This has more Spirit Attunement. Why does it have a Grace requirement?

[visual isle]

Orengall should 100% be heavy class spirit armor. Rood be heavy grace and bromius be heavy courage

You mean the spirit pact isnt spirit armor, and the spirit enemies arent spirit armor.

[pale merlin]

Pact's don't have stats anymore?

[visual isle]

Also gildaur is just 100% better than verite.

[visual isle]

Nope

Every pact saw a pretty considerable stat loss. Even wyld tethren full courage lost around a 3rd of its health

Also, super funny thing

Medium armor, actually has more total armor than heavy armor

[pale merlin]

There are like two spirit options

[visual isle]

Orengall is BiS grace, mendicant is BiS courage.

[pale merlin]

Mockery set should(?) be spirit, has more spirit attunement.

[visual isle]

Im hoping wazzards armor is a major upgrad to tuvalkanes because spirit has 18 less armor than courage and 27 less than grace.

[pale merlin]

Can you imagine if there wasn't moonsteel thread?

[visual isle]

Orengall should be spirit. Its the spirit pact more than any. It orginally gave a bunch of spirt. Its main ability is spirit, back when it had a claw that also scaled with spirit.

[pale merlin]

Maybe the other crystals and gear will make the issues go away.

[visual isle]

With the scarecrow mask being the best spirit currently id probably farm the stuf asap then quit till next preludes.

Maybe, but theres a fundamental issue with the health and cooldown bonuses that need to be addressed.

Both could probably be doubled.

Health bonus probably tripled.

[pale merlin]

Steelsinger helm(set) is good if you want more stability.
For spirit its like the only thing to wear other than that mask from the scarecrows

[visual isle]

Wazzards is spirit, but we dont know stats yet

[pale merlin]

If that's the hat, the new hat is only sidegrade to option with only 14 points requirement. Which has one more total point.

[visual isle]

Boys. Weve done it.

Moras hand is better than bromius

[pale merlin]

The third available, non starter, spirit hat for comparison
These shown at 29 Spirit

[visual isle]

Moras hand is like actually good now.

[pale merlin]

Some of the hair options don't lighten from mostly-black
Can we get some natural hair color pattern?
The highlights feel scattered and random on short hair. Fine for color blending.
Apparently there is Curly, Long and fancy, or one almost buzz, and one shaved. These appear to be all pulled over from the sister game.

At least we can dye the pact arm now!|
::tries to rotate or zoom on character to look at colors:: #
::tries to match the Wyld vines to Erstroot:: [No!] T_T
Oh well I didn't need that anyhow ((but not the vine... x_x))
::paints it all mostly black::
"Envoy your aura is so drab..."

Oh hey my points in my pacts are all unset.
Oh hey I found another place to pull stats from to manage reaching armor requirements.

Think about allowing us to refund art points individually instead of requiring a full reset to change a couple?

[hidden iris]

THREE NEW MINI QUESTS LOCATIONS
Deadwood (Skelfies)
Mistress of the Thread (Taughslane)
Lightning in a Vial (Kairness)

Is anyone interested in a video tutorial to find them?

[fervent basin]

Videos are a bit hard for me to parse; screenshots would be helpful, however!

[pale merlin]

Videos are too often about the existence of the person making the video than the information being provided and we have tons of people all vying with the original successes to also share that same information.

Subjective: What's really useful is either short and easy to follow instructions, or an infographic that can be used to reach the goal. IE a few images and arrows or indicators that help you get there without playing out the scenario for you in someone else's game.

Providing the minimal information to get the person back on track gives them more agency and retains for them more of the discovery involved in the activity.

With only knowing the names of the towns where the quests can be found the path to the end of the adventure is shortened by as long as it would have taken to stumble upon them naturally.

::continues to make a beeline for the town he now know holds the quest as he doesn't have time for that either::
::is thwarted for running his mouth, again::

[neon slate]

Any idea what this might be? Found with one of Verminia’s rats outside the Glades entrance south of fort Curlail

[pulsar orchid]

It's the note that hints you to start the Brewer of Hues Fable

[pale merlin]

Did that Banneret just pull back at my smite and try to cancel it??

Ok ||The Organ|| is the right direction. Interactive, emotive. It's got information from prior activities which hint at you what to do. You aren't punished for getting it wrong unless you can't survive the combat which not more aggressive than normal, which leaves the focus on the activity.

Immortal NPC villagers can body block a doorway and stop moving.

Oh hey, Odiac's particle is all together now.

Hey all these buildings have stuff in them now.

||The Organ|| is listed on the trees, but also you can't accept the quest?

Halbard guy with side horns is sliding forward durring recovery animation, to swing at me?

[hidden iris]

That is a incredibly selfish observation, even if only Objectively.

[pale merlin]

It's clearly stated as subjective and I do not understand in what way it is selfish.

[hidden iris]

Some folks just want to help and provide the best way to get something done. You assuming something like that, ick

[pale merlin]

Assuming what?

There are lots of content creators
They are all doing similar stuff
There is only so much new information
Some of them have more quality to their videos than others
I think some stick to the subject and respect their audience's time

When I look for for info on a game I find that a annotated map or infographic is a much better, lasting, easily distributed source of info. There are maps for some games, made by fans, which are works of art in and of themselves. Info pages with directing images and notes that rival the stuff you would find in high end business.

[pale merlin]

Pyro-diac! ||Not what it's called.||

What is the sun doing in the south? What kind of a crazy orbit is this?!
Navigate by the stars they said...

[viscid rivet]

the mini quest, you get something for it?

[pale merlin]

Which mini quest?

[viscid rivet]

The new quest, kill the spider

[pale merlin]

I think that gives you some bonus rep or exp or resources when done, but is mostly a 'bread crumb' quest to help you find Etheldred.

[viscid rivet]

Thanks :D

[pseudo gust]

is there a certain world tree i have to be on to gather this new weapon - Seathorn, a witching-staff fresh from the Salz

[pale merlin]

Someone recently typed that it was from T3 quests.

[pseudo gust]

yes i know that but it is in all the world trees or only certain world trees, i have been going around the map on most of the world trees and havent found it yet

[pale merlin]

No way to know for sure yet? Could be higher level = better chance, maybe not?

[pseudo gust]

ok thank you

[pale merlin]

Drop chance has been a fickle mistress for many.

[pseudo gust]

ya i see that i have had many that haven't dropped any fragments

[pale merlin]

We're just doing the fine adjustment here now, less conveniently but still the same action to wear what we want. I feel like maxing all three will over shadow other options. Even more I want to be able to refund a single pip so I can move the resources elsewhere in the tree.

[rare ginkgo]

It is crazy that a term for a hat could be called a ||Bycoket||... 🤣

[ebon elm]

Should I put this on purity for a teth courage build?

[crimson solar]

yes

[rare ginkgo]

Yes. You can preview whether a joinery will be better or worse in the reforge ui...

tho the reforge ui doesn't list the full modified stat, it is good for relative info...

[opaque delta]

can someone explain the new stats from the virtue system pls ? 🙂

[rare ginkgo]

Additionally, insert the meme ||Bicorn mount jokes from Overlord anime here||...

[shadow minnow]

if u reforge weapon will its lvl reset?

[worldly jewel]

Only if you use a blessed joinery

[shadow minnow]

how do i know its blessed

[worldly jewel]

Blessed ones are also the only nes that require the weapon to be rank 30

[worldly jewel]

As in blessed by mora/iridis/saphene.
Higher tier joinery than rusted/tempered/polished

[shadow minnow]

aah ok tnx

and when i get an item to lvl 30 what ll happen

will i get bonus stats ?

[atomic latch]

Are there any new side missions other than the 2 Organ ones peeps? 🙂

[pulsar orchid]

Everything new is in https://forums.soulframe.com/topic/9461-soulframe-preludes-13-a-triquetra-of-virtues/

[gentle badge]

looks like they improve the big castle at the end of the map

it looks cool

i cant wait for them to finsih it even more

[crimson ravine]

How long is the cooldown from Organ Event?

[finite tree]

Not sure. It seems to be around an hour but I haven’t done a deep dive into the timing.

[worldly jewel]

heard a lot of 3 hours

[worldly jewel]

funny story there's some cool stuff underground under Mirifuir aswell

haven't found a way into the actual castle tho yet 😭

[gentle badge]

yea but how to enter in there? :0

[worldly jewel]

i ain't snitchin

[valid ridge]

ya better not xD

[ripe geyser]

What amulet do we need for kith of kings to talk to my friend?

[modest thunder]

the medallion of mora

you can get fragments for it from dermak undercity chests

[worldly jewel]

[ripe geyser]

Thanks!

[valid ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-do-it-kenneth-parcell-30rock-please-dont-please-no-gif-21894207

[oblique crystal]

anyone have a map of where the three organs are?

[crimson solar]

big black spots on map

there are 3, easy to see

[oblique crystal]

south mid right and top left?

[crimson solar]

yeah, you can't miss em

[oblique crystal]

thanks

[pale ocean]

Does anyone know if Cogah buffs reputation gains?

[sonic sequoia]

I don't believe you can do Tales with Cogah.
If you meant Infamy, yes it does.

[hidden iris]

As requested with screens from my vid. Sorry didnt get back to you sooner, dealing with trolls 🙂

THREE NEW MINI QUESTS LOCATIONS
Deadwood (Skelfies)
Mistress of the Thread (Taughslane)
Lightning in a Vial (Kairness)

[pale ocean]

Do tale rep gains increase w level/difficulty??

I am trying to find most fun way to get to basker's + the associated virtue prisms for a new build but its tough just ripping 3stars over and over

[fervent basin]

thank you, this is quite helpful!

[hidden iris]

Happy to accommodate

[sonic sequoia]

Faction Tales rep

Level 0-10
    1 Star: 150
    2 Star: 350
    3 Star: 500
Level 10-20
    1 Star: 300
    2 Star: 550
    3 Star: 850
Level 20-30
    1 Star: 400
    2 Star: 750
    3 Star: 1150
Level 30-40
    1 Star: 500
    2 Star: 950
    3 Star: 1450
Level 40-50 (not available yet)
    1 Star: ???        (from 400)
    2 Star: ???        (from 750)
    3 Star: 1700

[pale ocean]

Oh you’re a saviour ty! Is there a good spot for consistent 30-40s?

[sonic sequoia]

North east, near the fort.
Not sure it is still valid for P13 though, but should be.

[pale ocean]

clutch af ty

[ripe geyser]

Uhhhh can I get her back? lol

[fading viper]

At the top of the Organs, where are we supposed to shoot the crosshair?

[sonic sequoia]

There are glowing weakspots on the tower, shoot them all.

[fading viper]

figured out what the issue was.... i was thinking the number on the reticle was CHARGES, not KEY INPUTS

[sonic sequoia]

^^
Yeah, Controller layout for it doesn't translate quite that well into K&M.

[pulsar orchid]

Yep! You've just started the https://wiki.avakot.org/A_Witch_Withdrawn fable

[viral prism]

Floppet the Loooong Way

[ripe saddle]

New player. I’m confused I picked up the helmet from the quarry and took it to the correct location (forge). Bird is just sitting there with no cutscene. Do you have to play this game in order to gain access to npcs

[rich ingot]

Known bug, DE is working on it

[ripe saddle]

Thanks!

[prime swallow]

What happened on the standing missions that are on the map? I've finished the latest mission "The Organ".. Did I miss something? I need to do standing, so I think whether I'm lagging or the game..

[rich ingot]

They got moved to the world trees

[prime swallow]

Oh.. Dang, so even these are also changed on p13. Thanks ❤️

[quick bobcat]

Question: Do we still not have a third note for Tuvalkane?

[ripe saddle]

Is day/night also bugged. Map has said day multiple times but game has been stuck in night mode

[modest thunder]

most of the time that's because you're in the middle of the 'brewer of hues' quest. is it true here? if so, you have to finish the fable.

[ripe saddle]

I’ll take a look, kinda wandered off from main quest line for a bit. You are probably right

[fervent basin]

no context soulframe

[mortal girder]

I did the EXACT SAME THING

[pulsar orchid]

It's just... so inviting...

[mortal girder]

Elden Ring players be like "I can dodge that"

[valid ridge]

I tried, i died...

[ripe geyser]

Can reforges be made more than once?

[pulsar orchid]

Yep, as much as you like! It's explained on https://wiki.avakot.org/Reforging

[ripe geyser]

Okay...thank you! I didn't see if the blessed reforges stack, however. Do they? That seems broken if so

[rich ingot]

They don't

[ripe geyser]

gotcha. So I assume it turns all symbols that aren't the one u picked into the selected?

e.g. a (C C C S S) would be a (C C C C C) if u used a courage reforge?

[pulsar orchid]

One joinery may be slotted at a time - reforging again will replace it

[rich ingot]

No, it adds 1 symbol of that type

CCCSS would become CCCCSS

[ripe geyser]

I see...I actually like that more than my theory

[pulsar orchid]

Your theory was close to how it worked 2 days ago tbf! They just overhauled the whole system

[ripe geyser]

Yeah, they did lol.

My friend and I got a bit mad cuz our entire build got shuffled around until we realized we lost literally nothing

granted, the scaling made the weakest weapons we weren't even touching into our optimal gear for combat, but that changed quickly after we found our prisms

[north yarrow]

hey, wanted to ask if the new magick weapons drop from somewhere or if they are just in the faction shops?

[mortal girder]

i think the fire gauntles you can get form T3 tales and from Kith enclave at rank 3, and same for the staff, but bought from Alcas children

[north yarrow]

Thanks :3

[wide coyote]

Where can i find the waste bear boss fight. And just to find out, where exactly do I get the wazzard armor set? (It's from this boss right?)

[mortal girder]

the bear spawns at night, not sure where but i think maybe near the corrupted areas?

[wide coyote]

Ah tyty. And does it drop the armor set?

[wide coyote]

Also. I just found it but it dissapeared mid fight. Why?

[mortal girder]

probably a bug

[wide coyote]

Ah fair enough

Maybe it turned day

thats why

[leaden yew]

It does if I'm remembering my drop correctly, 99% chance I'm not misremembering

[wide coyote]

Sweet

[forest girder]

Guys, I found this TikTok that shows two people at the same campsite. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGduJhhur/

[worldly jewel]

My guy... Come on

[austere robin]

has to be a different guy, surely

[worldly jewel]

[bright skiff]

My rat woman are disappeared, where can i find her 😭😭😭

[worldly jewel]

find her where you found her

[serene swallow]

hii, new player here. I was wondering what happened to the wolf || Orengall's pup after you pet it. bro has not shown up in the nightfold ever since 😭 ||

[worldly jewel]

it can be outside the tent aswell, next to Orlick or Tuvalkane

[serene swallow]

ohh okay, tyy <3

[viral prism]

guys more Algamest lore!!!!

I hadn't done the Mistress of the Thread fable yet and one of the poems says that Etheldred was heralded by Algamest itself!!!!

so Algamest is a mythological figure in line with the Weavers!!!!

guys this updated is bigger than i thought regarding lore

[vast hawk]

Read the note by the rat behind where she stood

Then check if you got a new quest .

[bright skiff]

We got a new quest this prelude?

[vast hawk]

No I was talking about the witch disappearing

[bright skiff]

I come back to the witch today but i cant read the note anymore 😂😂

[brisk juniper]

Just killed the bear here, night time

[bright skiff]

What did the bear drop tho?

[vast hawk]

Oh lol I thought you leveled the witch to LV 2 lol

[brisk juniper]

Arbearer chest piece frag

Or whatever the name

[vast hawk]

Where does waste wear drop9?

[bright skiff]

Oh damn, she is lvl 1 in my world. I guess it a quest to lvl her up?

[vast hawk]

Nope.. just got to craft a potion . And a paint

You get paint from your faction shop...

[bright skiff]

Ah ok then, this is her first time disappearing. Outta find her tomorrow then

[vast hawk]

If she disappeared.. then that's part of it . She disappears before she levels up . You need to go find her

[bright skiff]

Only if i can read that notes again, maybe the location where she go to is fixed and ican find it on YouTube?

Should have find her yesterday when i first read the notes instead of farming for faction points

[vast hawk]

Do you see a rat behind where she stood? Have you red the note already?

[golden summit]

When is the game coming to consoles

[viral prism]

in 3-5 years

they are only focusing on the PC-build and remastering the systems

[bright skiff]

Yea, i read it already. Now the rat is standing above the note and i cant read it anymore

[vast hawk]

Then look in quests:)

@bright skiff you come right?

[bright skiff]

Like i said imma find her tomorrow, time to sleep in my region

[oblique loom]

how can i save that pup ?

[viral prism]

did you need to slay a heavy enemy?

[oblique loom]

i cannot find key

[viral prism]

they might have dropped the key

[oblique loom]

ive slayed every1

[viral prism]

yeah but was there a little boss battle or a really large dude?

you can press soulmode (i think it is A button) to reveal things you can pick up or interact

there should be a big bag somewhere you can pick up?

[oblique loom]

didnt see it

thanks anyway gonna look for the bag

Should it be somewhere near the pup?

[worldly jewel]

should drop from an enemy

[brisk juniper]

Drops from enemy near the cage, you need to pick up key with F. That being said quest is buggy and key sometimes doesnt drop. In that case u gotta relog and repeat that step

[worldly jewel]

Watch the stream on 24th for a key. Been told to not ask for them here.

[finite tree]

Please do not ask for keys in this discord. We’ve already removed and responded to your question about ways to obtain a key.

[worldly jewel]

Oh lmfao bruh

[viral prism]

from the lore of the new Basker's Wrest can we assume that the year 601 is the end of the cassid occupation?

that means cassids occupied midrath for more than 200 years (mines of boro says occupation occured in 401)

gonna create some sort of bible of the mythology of soulframe

apparently Mora and Saphene had a planet rendering fight

[oblique loom]

thanks, youre right i needed 3-4 relogs to get the key 🙂

[solemn crown]

The Grinder has a face that look at my camera 😱

Do they know the Envoy is controlled by a player ?

[viral prism]

damn that looks crazy ngl

[pulsar orchid]

Yeah they did this since they were added back in uhh... november I think? It's awesome, also they're the only thing in the game to display this behaviour so far

[tardy phoenix]

Oh, I think the eyes are designed in a concave manner

With the actual "iris" portion being a flat image that faces the camera

[final sage]

Thiiis feels a bit much for a T2 tale

I have to abandon it cause i am at 14/17 and can't find the last 3 guys xD

[mystic spire]

Fairly sure that kinda objective has the numbers based on the location

Like if the tale lands on a big settlement or base there's simply more enemies

[final sage]

Yeah this location should probably be blacklisted in that case

[worldly jewel]

i guess you could try just finding nearby enemies and trying to kite them closer to the mission area?

[faint swallow]

you can easily get keys on the reddit, they're throwing them away like candy

[worldly jewel]

wouldn't know, i don't use it

[primal geyser]

Oh it's Tommy the grinder engine

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-the-tank-engine-horror-gif-25424804

[pale ocean]

Anyone seen the vadagar Stag tale fail to spawn? want to see if I should rep this

[finite tree]

If it’s night it’ll spawn. If it’s day, no spawn.

[pale ocean]

OH WOW what okay

I picked it up from tree during day ig its waitin time

[viral prism]

idk if this was already a thing but i saved the boxes from going up to the collector and in the end they exploded and gave me fragments of the erstroot and witan?

was that already a thing that they dropped?

[sonic sequoia]

Yep, the more boxes you save the more loot you get.

[quick bobcat]

It's got some rather extreme tracking.

Of course, the most important part of P13 is that we can feed Ode to the woodchippers.

[lucid quail]

Never a break from them.

[quick bobcat]

Y'all need a raise.

[crimson ravine]

Never Lucky

[dusk lark]

https://tenor.com/view/zuh-cat-side-eye-stare-cat-staring-ca-gif-7404392670733848800

[crimson solar]

Anyone done the new miniquests?

I'm stuck here, dunno what i'm meant to do

plz help

[late viper]

Did you kill all the enemies around?

[crimson solar]

yes

there were only mockeries

[late viper]

Hrm. Either dip into and out of Nightfold, or relog?

There's meant to be some Ode soldiers around fighting

Oh wait--

There also should be a note in the camp

[crimson solar]

i did clear it before i picked up the note on my way past, maybe bugged it out

[late viper]

after reading that note, the quest should be complete

[crimson solar]

i can't see any note, been searching everywhere

[late viper]

It should be on a desk to your left of the image

I think

[crimson solar]

like where the ode intel is in tales, nothing there

[late viper]

Somewhere in that area

you holding Q to highlight it?