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i am SO excited
I am missing whoever is between the smithy and the envoy glade
I assume someone to use these rusted things with
Actually the smithy can use those joineries you're getting, tho the rusted ones are the most common
Hi, how do I get an invitation to Soulframe?
But you are missing one character. That would be your next goal. Have you been to the glades yet?
Make sure you're signed up on the Soulframe website. They send out 2k codes every Wednesday. You can also tune into most of their Twitch livestreams and watch for 15-30 minutes to receive a code as a Twitch drop. You can also check the subreddit to see if someone is kind enough to share a code with you. Asking for codes here is not really allowed so I wouldn't recommend that
ahh, ok bro thank for help 🙂
No I don't think so
There's an entrance ||south of Fort Curlail. Your next fable should trigger once you go through||
I can't even find the next thing to reveal the next map bit
I only have the first oval
I missed the smithy and had to go back. Thank Synod the sparrow is such a good leader
Ahh okie dokie, well I believe you should be able to see the fort in your currently viewable map! It's pretty far right if you only have one piece uncovered. I don't remember the exact boundaries tho, so I might be wrong. It's like a diamond shaped castle on the map, and south of it is a grouping of trees. When you go there it'll dip down and go underground into a dungeon
You probably mean the castle that I keep seeing the red lights over
That's the one!
Beyond jealous right now 😄
i just wish the other parts for Mendicant King's armor would drop
trees
complete guide link if you can't find them
Bienvenidos a esta serie de videos donde iremos explorando juntos todo lo que nos ofrece esta pre-alfa del nuevo juego de los creadores de #Warframe, #Soulframe.
00:00 Intro
00:57 Mapa de todos los arboles
01:10 Árbol 1 (A1)
01:14 Árbol 2 (...
Dw you're not the only one 🤣. How do you even get that sword btw?
PS: sorry maybe for the dumb question but i just saw your message and the sword, didn't read all your past messages
Drops from the Mendicant King boss in the southwestern corruption
then I see that boss
I guess i'm far too early in the game for that then
I got an "unidentified item". is that a bug?
Does it have more than 4 legs?
Because this is the armor of Tethren, a female feykin warrior, similar to how our own Envoy is a "blueblood"
it was modeled to the exact specifics of Tethren
They're adding male variants to the armor sets soon
yup, straggler that made it over from Warframe
ah
yup! Oscelda already has one. They change the hair from awesome braids to kinda wavy hair, Remove the cool flowy fish tail, which kinda neuters the warlock look. But they don't get rid of the breast shape or belly button, which i hear people have some problems with.
and they're making tweaks to Tethren to make it a bit beefier and Sirin has something happening idk
along side the random inbox message, and as someone posted in #envoy-gathering the map showing Warframe's enemy arrows and the Warframe connection issue ui.
and another where the ping ui was Warframe's ping ui
lowk look cool
side effects of using the same engine
yup
fr fr. Try wearing full Tethren set with mask up and base Tethren pact
whole look looks great
i'm gonna get Wyld Tethren despite being an Oscelda lover
not p2w just founders, it will be aviable later on for all
and in the meantime just get tethren it is exactly the same ability wise
uhm, any idea what damage damage is supposed to be?
damage damage 💀
Are there any armor sets that can represent me as a male?
loincloth/no armour = peak male armour
orengall, bromius, garrenrood or yes naked
Hi!!! :)I'm stuck on the Nimrob mission. I hear drums and it won't let me use the tab key. How do I fix it? I've already restarted and moved way back...
i assume you are doing the ||brewer or hews|| quest(?) have you met ||Verminia|| if so at what point are you? are you stuck after making her appear in nightfold or before?
I met Verminia, but I can't go to Nightfold. Drums are playing and I walk away, but they keep playing...
so you havent greet her in nightfold right? we'll have to figure out how to get you into nightfold
It's the Kind of damage, that Deals Damagy Damage, this is ..... DAMAGE
Yes. It still won't let me go to Nightfold. I only hear drums and the Nightfold option isn't available. "Tab" doesn't work either. I restarted, I walked away, but nothing.
how do i start the fable for the bear?
Believe it was armour for Pothia, unless that lore changed?
have you tried joining someone? that also sometimes fixes bugs
if it doesnt, only thing you can do at that point is report bug and wait for patch
how do I use founder flower?
Lore changed. Alora calls you a descendant of Tethren if you choose Tethren in the new opening. Same for Sirin and Oscelda. Refers to the Wyld Envoys as Tethren, Sirin, and Oscelda when talking about what they stole from her. Also, all 3 of the Wyld founders betrayed Alora.
Gotcha
I just wish Rise, Envoy could be replayed
it's so cool and gives an external look into how pulling a person into the Nightfold looks
no way
Me when I Greg tech
Also, cool detail I saw from the Rise, Envoy opening quest. Our Envoy falls from Ode'n Sky with a broken version of the model for the Ode Tempest pact.
i wanna see that cutscene but without reseting my account sounds so cool
better than just waking up naked at the beach after a blackscreen
Do you ever unlock fast travel?
fast travel requires completion of the waste bear fable
where?
I use the item the mission tells me to, but Nimrod stumbles and then one-shots me.
Guys what do i do after meeting the fire king? The game gives me nothing to do
Look on your compass/map for icons for "Kith of Kings Tales". Use your sparrow (G) to locate the quest givers, and then do what the tale directs you to do. Eventually the game will give you another Fable.
can people join for boss fights? i need help with a fight
Here's the way to get there. will take some time. @lost cipher
Love this fashion!
Is the game released?
Nope still in Alpha
Its released in someway? But not officially just yet theres still some work that needs to be done @zealous sigil
How does one deepen bonds with the ancestors?
Looking forward to day one playing
also Waste Bear had me tear up lowkey
is it the intended way or is it a glitch way?
casue if its the glitch way i will just wait till they add intended way
glitched. there is no intended way yet. But I assume since there’s a tree there, this IS the intended way.
aye imma just wait then
i prefer not to do any glitches in any game
It'll probably be available when they add new Isles of Alca. So you'll be waiting for a LONG time.
I tried using a code from a friend and this message popped after.. May I ask how long did yours take to receive email back from SFrame?
no worries.. ive got too much patience.. that is dangerously for my life lol 😂
Hey so im trying to decipher the lore of the game so far, is there any idea ||who the person with the ode tempest pact certain quests has been? Im talking about the guy who had orengall’s other pup and had the wevetwood seed in front of king synod in the waste bear quest.||
if someone replies to this pls @ me
For verminia, you need to brew potions with her, Tulvkane, you need to build stuff. Orlick currently doesnt have a bond mechanic in place (as far as I know)
Oh, thanks so much! I thought it was that but figured best to be sure I wasn’t missing something
I wanna experiment with new pacts while I work up to Hand of Mora
The one with the wevetwood seed is implied to be us, but the Thrall with the Omen Pup was the Ode'n Thrall Bayor, (name still speculation) who stole us from our Grandfa when we were still an Envoy-in-training. Right on our Bairnday, too. Despicable. He seems to have been the first Envoy to wield the Paragon Greatsword, as alluded to in the description for the weapon reading that the weapon has a message that says "Return to Bayor".
Also there's concept art of the Ode Tempest, with the name "Bayor" attached to it.
You can bond with Tuvalkane by crafting weapons. You can rank up Verminia by brewing hues (from factions). You cannot bond with Orlick or the creepy shoulder baby at this time.
Oh ok this makes everything a lot clearer for me. Thank you!!
np
I just got a voice line from Alora about the Cogah. Apparently these show up when you kill Agari?
idk what dungeon i'm in, i think it might be glades? can't see on the map. but there used to be a boss or something standing here, big tall black skeleton looking thing with glowy bits. Does any1 know what it's called or what the spawn condition is? it disappeared when i left to clear the surrounding area so i could fight it safely.
Thrice-bound Impidh, and yes, I know precisely which dungeon you are in. I'm trying to track down the other new bosses. Let me grab my map so I can post it for those interested in finding the new Agari
Green are confirmed new Agari locations, still working out the rest. From top to bottom, we have ||Reaper, the doggo; Seaschnell the Widower; and Thrice-Bound Impidh||
ooh, thanks
where am i meant to get the Cogah potion, i have plenty of the sap and mushrooms required to make several but the rat witch ain't making none for me
Rank 2 standing with Verminia, I think
Any confirmed new drops from these Agari? Do they drop mushies in dungeons? Haven't ran any in a while
Doggo drops mushy, but I didn't get anything else special. Only fought it once
Dang I was really hoping they'd fix the mushrooms before they did something like that
Also a veryyy easy fight, no different really from the other big Ode'n dogs
Nothing is worse than losing all your loot because the mushroom spawns under the map
I've had it happen multiple times in Cogah mode
Which is the worst place for that to happen
Sorry didn’t mean to drop and run…yes they drop mushrooms and can be done via the cogah as well.
Is there a fast travel in the game? Getting tired of running around
Yes! Once you complete the waste bear quest
How do I start the bear quest?
I have been running around the map to unlock the world trees by foot
Do you have ||verminia|| in your nightfold?
Nope. Got the smith, premium trader, pensive, the tree post office, and tent
That’ll be why. You need to have her before you get the next part for waste bear.
Where is she?
||South of Fort Curlail, there is a tree with a dungeon. BEFORE YOU ENTER, make sure you read the note next to the little squeaker just outside||
Thank you for the kind info 🙏
||So do we know who Bayor was or is...? the Paragon Sword mentions this name.||
I've been wondering about that.
Because of certain concept art and the Juniper fragments, I'm assuming Bayor is another Enthralled Envoy, who may have either trained us or worked with us when we were working for the Ode. During the Orengall Fable pre-P11, the mysterious Ode Tempest Envoy we saw at the end of the quest was wearing the Forgetfire armor set. This same armor set and pact is worn by the Tempest Thrall that stole us from Grandfa by baiting us with a caged wolf, strapping a Synsylk thread to us, pulling us up into the sky. Now, the Tempest thrall wears the Enthralled armor set that is worn by our Envoy in the flashback scene in Waste Bear. I'm going to assume that Bayor was the last traitor who wielded the pacts of the paragon(name etched on The Paragon Sword), who helped us steal the Empress Seed for Synod, which is why Alora is caged in the Founder Pack trailer.
Dang we did some nasty stuff X_X
Probably cause we were forced to
The spellsong comes for all... except for the Sproutfolk. Cause they don't hear music the same way we do
Also here's concept art of a "Young Tempest Bayor"
Official concept art too
Ye! I see that haha
I love the design
Would be nice if we get it as a armor set
Or any type of Ode-like wear
Oh definitely! maybe an Ode'n Sky Agari that drops fragments for the Bayor set
Ah yeah good point =p
bug? insufficient materials, but I have everything
i have nothing to back this beside vibes, but i dont trust our Envoys ||Grandpa/Peepaw old ass||
From the ||Memories of Warsongs|| i havent completed the whole note entry tho...
a true envoy never speaks ill of grandfa
he was the one who wished to train us to become an envoy, and wanted to keep us safe from the Ode. When we went out to get ingredients for our Bairnsday cake, Grandfa sent out his Sparrow to watch over us. We are still guided by Grandfa's sparrow, even when he's "gone" (according to text boxes in the Rise, Envoy fable)
bober
where is the bear and costume ancestor? general direction for both
You probably have to level blacksmith
You use the item to debuff Nimrod, you still have to defeat him...also I don't remember at which point you were supposed to go into nightfold with brewer of hews quest (was it after final fight with Nimmy or before it)
He one shots you cuz he deals a lot of damage, after debuff, he can't or at least shouldn't be able to use any range attack, so he has only mele, try keeping distance and throw your weapon. You can try to hit his head for bonus damage (yes Mele also has headshot bonus damage)
You don't, at least not in current build. Also there is nothing aside for the tree, you can't even tp there I think, (I'll check whether you can and come back to it)
I've already defeated arbear but I still can't craft anything except for the Nettle
Where do I find this flower?
Does anyone know when we will be able to change our character look again? ( hair )
anyone know why this grave makes a jingle sound when i use spectral sight near it?
thats Orlicks grave
neat
Soulsbane, you can find it in the ode swamps, it's a little reddish flower from afar, use your spectral sight
Wait how do I use spectral sight and where are the ode swamps 😭
Ode swamps are the corrupted swamps on the world map, they're pretty high level for you I think, and your spectral sight is the alternate way to "see things", lots of interactions with it, you can use it with the keyboard bind you assigned to it
where was that area again with the giant roots that look like a corrupted world tree? it was beside a lake that had a small waterfall
found it
I just assumed Bayor was our past life or something
bro is trolling me, told me to look up but 💔🥀
Hi guys, do you have general tips gathering those misty clouds (I think they are called motes)
Idk why but I just never see them unless they are like a couple inches away from me (no I do not have eye problems, that wouldve been not funny anyways)
Thx in advance❤️ !
Relog to make them respawn, make it much easier
I love Verminia's voice, reminds me of Curie from fallout
I'll try it, thanks! 🙂
Oh wow lmao
so they reappear at the same spot?
random
Different spots, but they will always spawn
Great, thanks to both of you!
Game's growing on me.
Is there a second pole-arm rune through the cogah challenge?
Or is it still just the one?
As a new player, are there any more quests after meeting your faction leader? Or are you just meant to explore randomly for now?
how to get Purity gs?
there should be 4 ancestors you can unlock, excluding the camel
Mendicant king drop
Is there an optimal guide on what to do after unlocking the 4 ancestors? I've been farming faction quests but the xp is very slow
did Mendicant just speak chinese? when he said Drink
Depends on the location of those tales. If you’re sticking to the starter area, yes the xp will be low. Higher in the NE areas.
Possibly fey language (if you listened to his dialogue he mentioned how the fey and mendicant use the same language)
I think the NE area is too strong, I don't even know where to get the right materials and higher level gear
The point is higher level enemies means higher xp. My suggestion is to join groups or slowly start venturing out within your personal comfort zone.
@turbid drum keep on topic and convo appropriate
nah wtf, DE outdid themselves, like bruh, this was so good, the fight was awesome, it could have been harder ngl, but the moveset and stuff, leaps and bounds better than most Warframe boss fights ngl
Warframe new update is coming in 11 days and we are getting character creation improvements. Because soulframe share same mechanic from that game. Do you all think we will also get character creation in soulframe at that same day as warframe big update ?
After all they did say before end of December so im hoping this day would be perfect to drop that on that day
I have a friend who can't collect the sap. He's unlocked Verminia and Orengall. He's logged out and back in, but still can't collect the sap for Bromius's quest. What should he do?
guys what do i do after meeting the fire king? All im seeing are weird short kill or rescue missions and nothing more. How do i progress? Theres nothing on my journal either
Please don't ask for codes here.
To obtain a code make sure you sign up on soulframe.com for a chance to win a code every Wednesday. Or tune into a official twitch stream that Soulframe do however there is no current schedule.
Or get lucky with people releasing codes in chat.
It is not permitted to ask for them though.
yall how do you get to the garden with the wevetwood tree after youve done the quest?
https://wiki.avakot.org/Join_Preludes
^ Many methods of obtaining keys here, envoy-to-be!
Ok guys im fcking tired and this isnt fun. I have literally got NOTHING to do or find after meeting the fire king. Wtf do i do next. ITS BEEN A DAY OF TRYING TO SEE WTF TO DO
have you unfogged ure map?, uncovered all histories?(absorbed location motes)
EXPLORE
Havent seen a single tree since the tutorial. Dont know about stories
cuse that's atleast a week of content if you take your time
Content i cant find!
🤣
I dont have any quests either
aah man, new players have no idea....
yah you have to trigger it
The game doesnt teach shit either...
its used to be waaay worse... its actually a lot better now
Partially by design, partially cuz it’s prealpha
Worse? This is barebones af
its funny cuse ppl are supposed to explore and figure stuff out.. but that is apparently boring af and tedious for some ppl
I get the whole "heres a weapon go commit genocide" feeling but at least POINT ME IN A DIRECTION GAME
Yes it is. I dont mind exploring but at least give me some POI. I have been running around and dont have a single tree besides the tutorial one because the damn things dont even show in the compass
what i could do for you is help you get started with a hint when im back if you care
Sure ill take it xd
yeah you have to go remove something from those trees to unfog ure map
you can see the world trees through the fog or u can use our interactive map up to u
im telling you, you can if you zoom in... but its fine ill help you
or you can make it easier on ureself and use the interactive map that shows you where they are https://soulmap.avakot.org/P12
the only real evidence against that is the fact that Bayor wielded the Paragon Greatsword before us, and the description specifically states we are the second Envoy to wield it. First being Bayor. So this shows we are both seperate characters.
oooh so that guy from the waste bear fable isn't us?, whole time I thought it was a flashback of us
The Bear pact story was kinda emotional I just finished it, loved the music
The music studio DE masquerading as a game dev studio strikes again
Here is the updated location of currently KNOWN NEW Agari enemies (you can enter with Cogah for the benfits)
Why the red X?
Left over from something I was testing lol
Cleaner version for you (without annoying X)
I have no clue if I should ask here but after the waste bear story what do you do next? I started on Prelude 12 if that's important
That's the last implemented quest, if you have also done Shewolf Snared you are done with story quests, for now.
I have Garren, then I went to the ruins where you can meet the big statue sitting down with online players meeting there and then I did waste bear
👀
With Verminia's before right?
ah yes!
In any case, sounds like you are missing Shewolf Snared, and maybe The Steelsinger?
which agari should be at your bottom green circle?

thank you for that...
uhhhh good question, can't remember the name of them--I believe it was Hewyl. They don't spawn consistently--you will have to exit and re-enter if they aren't by the last tile (before exit)
I'M BUGGED
i cant enter in noctalia
i think i need kill some boss , but i dont know
Idk if spoilers or not so, asking here anyone know what this is about
Why is the mendicant King not highlighted during Cogah? I beat it and he dropped a Cogah talisman anyway 👀
Located here
Is there a prompt for you to interact with?
If not I am pretty sure it’s just cool map pieces
There’s nothing, I just thought maybe it had some lore significance considering how theres like nothing around but ruins
Also idk how to get rid of the fog on the map near by, I have every tree but the island one
That part of the map is new, they just forgot to update the fog borders, or they plan to expand the area more and add a new tree maybe.
thanks!
Fair, also fyi that area spawns jaden drops(the green glowing mushrooms that previously only spawned in birdies bog)
I stand by that some needs to be moved and some don't. The smith needs either a clear marker or needs to be closer to envoy start
true
I mean
The tormented stag quest leads you right by where you can acquire the smith ancestor
You leave glades and follow the path left instead of continuing the quest and it’s right there
right with that little thunder strike thing but ppl always miss it
The issue is, they don’t really say its there
Theres no noticeable indication of where it is, so I think keeping it’s location and the way you literally are navigated right past it in tact but instead of basically nothing there should be a big indicator to go left
Like your bird flying in your face and then flying left and continuing to tweet until you do, or the codex ancestor literally saying that going left will get you a blacksmith or something
But wrong channel for those conversations
it shouldn't be a Agari though XD
Yeah…he shouldn’t be but he dropped a talisman anyway XD
Maybe he stole it from someone else lol
Him and nimrod kissing
yeah a little confused on if mendicant king is an agari... cuse they never said he was but ig he is?
Sorry idk why I say these things
He is, he was added to the Agari list in p11
They said the new sub-bosses would be adding to him
Hot
ok
And that's also why they bumped his respawn timer
oh damn but he isn't marked on cogah
Possilbe bug
also when i did a dungeon in Cogah mode all my previously slain Agari's markers are back on the map
im looking at P11 notes now and i dont see his name
That just listed the new sub-bosses
ok which one should i be looking at?
Ha basically was the prototype Sub-Boss, when they added new ones it was "an Expansion of the system" is what they said during devstream
Oh before I dip for a bit, have they mentioned when Alora will have more spotlight since she was a huge part of recent trailers
So he kinda was a sub-boss before sub-bosses were a thing
ok so it was mentioned in a devstream but not written down.. i get it
Asking here cuz maybe story spoilers
And when they made the category of sub-boss he was there
sure thing
They probably forgot tbh
Because he's a summon, he doesn't show up but users have reported that he is bugged atm so maybe don't run cogah on him
is there a figment with the old vermina pink blue and white sceme ?
Because he is a summon, he doesn't show up. Same with the dungeon bosses. They act like cogah agari but do not show up on the map
as i liked that old pink
got it
In the waste bear boss fight what is the constant dmg im taking in the second half of the fight? can I cleanse it?
It's a poison dot, if you get hit you take damage over time.
it feels like I get it no matter what. and the constant hands coming out of the ground seem like its impossible to dodge. maybe its just a skill issue?
That seems to be part of the phase, not sure what the solution to them is.
alr i got a major bug? I activated Cogah, did like 4 agari (gawth, knell, kabocha, imphid) and then i went to do Gruul seeker but I died on the way there fighting some mockeries and i got revived but it didn't take away my Cogah?? Like all enemies are still in Cogah. So i went on and did the Crypt up north to get to kearnhold and then I saw the markers of the pervious slain Agari were back but i went on did Wazzar and then went to the spider but i was curious and went back to gawth and she was back???? She spawned back in??? and i killed her again and the whole Agari slain stuff happened again??? I overwrit the 3 hour timer by going into a dungeon???
or are the Agari not on that time lock anymore??
but its very very missable
that's kind of the issue
for a new player that can be a lil rough
its not like its a more optional feature like finding vaermina for brews
It’s killing a few enemies for a bit then walking, and yeah that can be difficult you do spawn near by
like its not that its hard its just very possible to miss
despite being an extremely core feature
The bigger issue is theres no clear way to know beyond notes that imply its location
yeah that's the big thing everyone means when bringing up the smith
So, just making it more clear would help a lot
there's some mild notes, and a ringing sound but like, if you see the large group of enemies and your'e new you may wanna turn around
esp if nothing points to a quest being there
It is what I commented originally just the moving it to start wouldn’t mean much if theres no clear go this way, yk?
But there are multiple ways to handle it
yeah it either needs to be moved or made glaringly obvious that's how you get crafting
since crafting is a core feature with a timer on gear no less
And I assume that de has had it brought up to them atp
its been a frequent feedback since very early prelude tbh
Tbf they do have a lot going on constantly lol
but yeah either the smith needs to be more obvious or the free early game gear is needed
They added it so it starts tracking in your journal the moment the Torment Stag is done
It's not bundled with Pensieve, Stag, and Invitation
okay that's a plus, I remember back when I first started no one even knew where the smith was.
back int he days where shrimp were feared
Once done stag, you get both, and pretty sure Invitation is priority by default but you can swap at any time after
Completing invitation will just leave Steelsinger
the ancient days of our god shrimp
The shrimp sits now
On chairs
It's adorable
We hope they forget to fix it
yeah but its a bug. I hope he remains, unlike HAROLD 
HAROLD WAS SENT TO BUSINESS SCHOOL
Harold is funnier tho tbh. I just wnana see a big baddy named harold of all things. Tim's been done.
did I miss any quest?
nope
for now yeah
nice, time to max everyuthing out now
No, no, Tim wasn't a boss name
Tim was a bug where animals you freed would flee into the nightfold, break pathing, and just...turn into an eldritch horror
oh I meant namewise, but I've seen Tims in this server.

How does one find the garden w the seeds in the nightfold?
how do i make the numbers not red
make spirit above 10
its 40
when you dont have the minimum amount asked for the weapon the numbers get nerfed thats why they are red, however that is odd lol
try 10 grace?
did you use a blessed joinery on it?
because it seems like its pulling from your grace or courage
if not its a bug and should be tossed into #1438224825113120788
i used one that doesnt change the attunment i know that but thats all
all blessed joineries change attunement 
might be a bug. What happens if you don't have 10 spirit?
Ah, the Wyld Oscelda bug. Great.
Seems smiting with the Wyld pacts equipped somehow eats your virtue points until you relog
seems like Oscelda is hungry
That explains why I want to eat so much in game, I chose her pact and she cursed me with hunger
you get sin points instead
become an envoy landlord
Does anyone know how to reach the garden w the planted wevetwood tree in the nightfold?
No, that "guy from Waste Bear Fable" is us, at least it's implied to be. Wevetwood Sap gives visions of the past as well as the future. So we were one of the Envoys who helped steal the Empress Seed. The other being Bayor
we're both Ode Tempests, so we both wear the same armor.
OR it's a sneak peek of a future quest where we take Bayor's armor and infiltrate the Ode sky to try and rescue the Empress.
Thank you idk how ive missed it
either way, exciting lore
nah that's fire I can't wait to hear more
IMPORTANT LORE I REALIZED WHILE WALKING MY DOG!!!!
The Empress of Eldveil, Alora, wears a Spyder on her head. This is an arachnid species separate from the Weavers, which I assume are actually a species brought from an Ode-Occupied planetoid, due to their silvery appearance, and hostility towards the Envoy. While walking my dog, I realized that Avakot, in his intro quest, says "But those spiders fell and that ditty rang out, and all you big-legs lost your nerve." I assumed "Spiders" referred to an Ode contraption of some sort, but then, when rewatching the Rise Envoy fable (please DE make it replayable, I really want to experience it myself) "???" who is voiced by Jennifer English, who voices The Empress Alora, speaks about how the first Envoys betrayed her, and tells us to "Ask my Spyders, they'll tell you the same" or something along those lines. Were Spyders important to the Fey's protection of Alca? Maybe they were forming a type of magic shield around Alca, that protected us from the Spellsong. Anyways, Spyders are incredibly important to Alca, as well as the Fey. Why else would Alora wear one on her head?
Everyone wears things because Alca says they're pretty 
Rather, Alora does. Alora is the Fey Empress that represents the Spirit of Alca!
Alca says they're pretty too 
Is there any reason why I can’t get to verminia behind the rock? I can’t use the lil flute thing for the statue
oooh thats why she has it on her head, I think you're right its to ward off the spellsong
Most of this is speculation though. I encourage you to carefully explore the world of Alca, and see what lore conclusions you can derive from the world!
ok
I fear the enemies can go into the Nightfold...
i can't believe I bought weapon slots for the first time in soulframe
Hey everyone ! I was wondering if anyone knew how to unlock ||Orengall||'s quest 🙂
Eventually you will get a vision (between Nightfold passes) of Orengall chained by Sinecure under a red balloon. This will unlock the fable in your codex, just click on the "Shewolf Snared" tracker
look for a really big white wolf in chains
So I should come in and out of Nightfold ?
I think so. Been a while since i've played
Isn't the quest new ?
Nope. Orengall's been in the game for a while now
Oh right ! Thanks
kill him for his greed
where is the tunnel for verminias quest the 1 under the tree
one of these is not like the others
So how exactly do i get into cogah? or however the hardmode is called? You need the witch, she needs to be lvl 1, which she always is ... and then what?
Hello, does anyone have a code?
oh lvl 2 gotcha
Is there a timer for The Collector anywhere?
Based on comments made in the Dev stream Alora was revealed in and Sydney's episode of Envoy hour, what seems to have happened is the Ode captured Alora (probably thanks to the Envoy betrayal) and used her power of song to cast the spell song. So perhaps the "Spyders" helped spread the song across Alca.
if wearing them on your head wards off the spell song, its about to be a VERY bad day for spiders.
Spoiler Warning!
Bro accidentally aggro’d the camel.
So I've killed all the enemies on the map under the effects of ||Cogha,|| however this one remains. I killed ||Kabocha|| so am I done, or am I missing something?
technically yes but you can stay in the high level world and keep fighting
if you want to leave cogha just relog and it goes away
Okay, so the point of the cogha was for Runes and new amulets then yea?
yeah pretty much
Alright fair play. Just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing anything lol
and lore stuff
Oh I must've missed lore stuff
i think its time spent in cogha or something no pickups or anything
crazy read
i think I missed something huge when I played the fable. I don't think i ever saw this Bayor guy in a cutscene? maybe my quest was glitched and skipped the cutscene like I read in some of the patch notes after the quest released
i hope i can play them again soon
interesting… i like your suggestion
bayor is seen after Orengall fable. the same armor set is worn by the envoy in a scene in waste bear where you get hit with a gaseous form of wevetwood sap. it’s the scene leading up to the waste bear fight.
ohhhh
also the spyders are a DIFFERENT species from the weavers
can someone point out a good greatsword fragment area
definitely same animation skeleton
yep
i can't unsee that now
Mendicant King on the lower left of the map drops fragments of his sword . he’s an Agari, so he takes 3 hours to respawn between each kill. 2 Star faction tales will also drop Needleseye fragments.
Its even the same attack animations
but when the Neathuns released i couldn't help but notice this is just the infestation tile set in soulframe
Its way less cramped
correct me if im wrong but progression is shared correct?
I feel like the Glades are more of an Infestation tileset, since it’s more overrun than Neath’uns
what type of progression?
i always saw it as Ode corruption in glades makes everything (mostly) flat and clean of nature which is parallel with the Corpus, Dermak is the rugged warrior clan like the Grineer and the Neath'uns are the wild, naturesque roots that grow everywhere which is the Infestation
the same underlying themes are present in each faction
the firery forge like the rugged machinery of Grineer, The clean removal of nature like the technology of the Corpus, and the unpredictable roots of the Neath'uns much like how the infestation grows
Dermak was built by Fenn Jotar when his kingdom was driven underground by the Cessid invaders, this era was dubbed the “Lightless” Era of the Jotar reign.
okay... yeah but the artistic theme has similarities with the Grineer that's all I am saying
Dermak looks like a Bastion which is affiliated with Warriors. The fire within also is a statement for Courage and Rage.
I just really love the parallells between Soulframe and Warframe. They can literally be alternate dimensions in the multiverse that is DE's creative mind
There really isn’t enough tilesets to draw concrete comparisons between Soulframe and Warframe’s tileset themes.
and with how easy it is to get blessed joineries now you can actually change the attunement reliably if you don't want grace
not the tilesets per se just the factions have similarities
I'm so glad DE listened to feedback and changed how hard they were. Used to be hours and hours of grinding for an RNG chance to get a blessed 
Purity is a full Courage attunement. is Needleseye full Grace?
yeah full grace
but its significantly easier to get
so you know, anyone who wants a GS can just get that level to 30 and slap a joinery before they get purity
there’s only 2 enemy factions. The Sinecure and the Mendicant. Mendicant are byproducts of Ode’n corruption. Sinecure are Ode’n mercenaries. We really only have comparisons for Infested and Grineer for enemy factions
one group are the business people in captain planet, the other are the goo monsters in captain planet
cool. I got Purity pretty easily, even before i’ve gotten MK Full set.
you know what, that’s EXACTLY it.
CAPTAIN PLANET, HE'S A HERO 
brother i can't explain my vision to you twin... 😔
i give up you got me 🙏🏻
when you say factions, are you referring to enemy factions or ally factions? I’m trying to understand and compromise
you can’t give up this early
so i did the wolf quest whats the point in the wolf? i cant seem to do anything with the puppy
you got a pact and the puppy is cute
but puppy is missing
puppy is sneaky around your place
alr so... I am just talking about thematically what the dungeons are. And when I mean faction I mean the main group of people or animals that dungeon covers. So Dermak = Jotar, which has a warrior aesthetic, Glades = Corruption/Ode, which has a very clean anti nature vibe and Neath'uns which is very much nature overgrown vibes.
Grineer = rugged, machinistic, military faction. Corpus = heavy tech based, clean, energy consuming faction. Infestation = unpredictable, overgrown, nasty vibes.
They kinda correspond to each other:
- Grineer and Dermak
- Corpus and Glades/Corruption
-Infestation and Neath'uns.
Also color theme wise they are all in the same boat kinda (harder for neath'uns and infesation I give you that but you get the gist)
Imagine if the lore drops one day that this is how the Orokin empire developed
ohhh... Dermak's not really a faction. Its Ode who are polluting for a reason we don't know yet
and mendicants which are corrupted beings from the core. Jotar himself isn't a bad guy afaik?
yeah yeah i know that, as stated what i mean with faction is the main group of people the dungeon is based upon
But I wouldn't really call a city with water wheels heavily machine like and steampunk styled.
And the ode are wizards
pollution wizards, but wizards.
no i mean at the core of what the theme is. Grineer is rugged, military based as is Dermak, stone crafted, Warrior themed
I think you're seeing what you wanna see tbh.
what feeling it portraits
like its a huge stretch.
mmmh maybe kinda
i hear that often with my takes tbh even with friends. I got abstract eyes
noone sees the world as I see it sadly 🥲
anyway i gotta go to sleep so badly
oooohkay yeah i see what you mean
they’ve repeatedly stated that Soulframe and Warframe are NOT AT ALL CONNECTED.
Oh I'm aware, just making a joke from the similarities being discussed
just the DE multiverse 😂
how do i fight this guy
bell
Ringing the bell above them
ring the bell!!!!
Ring his bell so he can ring yours.
now I never wanna ring his bell again
Okay apparently getting knocked in the head and calling it getting your bell rung is not normal…
wait... I might just be the one in the wrong here
oh that was easy
im just starting but i bought the wyld Oscelda pack beforehand. Do i choose Oscelda to start out with? or will i get Wyld Oscelda later on from the purchase?
I think I found a bug related to the Vermina Quest
Not surprising. Check #1438224825113120788 before posting. Chances are it’s already there.
I would suggest choosing a different one to maximize your options.
sounds good ty!
thanks, I was looking for the bug tracking but couldn't find it.
hi, so there is a phoenix ruin down south close to the southest tp tree, it has a Phoenix in it, said to be older than everything around, these Phoenix appears in the Jotar Crypts, surrounded by the Mendicant soldiers
so like the Mendicant aquire an ancient powe, forgotten by the fey?
or he was like a corrupted Envoy?
Oscelda and Wyld Oscelda are pacts that both contribute to the skill tree of Oscelda. If you choose Oscelda as well as Wyld Oscelda, leveling up both of them will lead to more skill points to give you an overall stronger Pact
I actually threw some stuff in the forums about the Phoenix….i can’t remember what I put though lol.
like the official foruns?
Yeah! Forums.soulframe.com
got it, thanks
Are those Agari present without Cogah?
Yes
Are they always there, or only sometimes? And I presume also have 3hr respawn?
Every 3hrs and if they aren’t in the last tile (or center tile in the case of impidh the second) run back to the front, exit and re-enter.
so with all the pacts quest lines. was i the only one.. feeling a sense of joy or at least ready to cry...
i was definitely about to cry when i finished waste bear. it’s such a pretty song!
yaaa whyi brought it up. the waste bear quest i just stated weeping.... compared to wareframe which has made me cry.. this.. this is on another level.. if this is what we should expect.. then 100% im going to be blubbering mess when i get to end game XD
honestly. i sense DE going for a game about joy and life here. where warframe was more about loss and uncertainty.... and in the world we are in. DE making a game like soulframes showing.. i think many people need in a way.
it did kinda feel sad when i did it when it first came out
not as much as that i cried.. warframe never made me cry .. this is gonna make people hate me* the only time i cried in a game is when i played the destiny 2 witch queen campaign and i cried when she died lol
sacrifice would have definitely made me cry..if i understood english back then XD
haad to be the last of us was the first time a game made me feel
the boss fights are so awesome, the unique movesets, design, and story is just peak
welp if it stays like this and its what the game feels like. its masssively taking over my daily from warframe
english is not my first language.. that's why alot of game have never made me feel things.. i do understand english fluently.. but it dosent connect emotionaly
made me realize that i loved a villain witch queen* more then a character who killed his own son XD
tho when i finnaly began to understand english.. sacrifice story did shock me a little.. but didnt make me feel sad
im the same with Japanese as i was stationed there for nearly a year and learned to speak and somewhat translate it but if i wach anime or read mangas my brain cant pick up the emotional level or excretions
yeah.. but i do get sad as i understand english fluently.. things do quite makes me feel now.. lmao
ya i get that. tho personally. i think understading and feeling something are 2 very different things
i watched anime Darling in the franxx in english thats why it made me cry.. it i had watched it in japanese i defenelty wouldnt have felt the same
yeah
u can connect to a person who dont even speak
i think its more easier then a person who speak a diffrent language
understanding is more calculating. while feeling is the emtionaal half. both are needed to get the fullest picture but you can more then get by with 1 or the other
where's the last mote? it has this 
ya you can feel something someone says even if its you cant understand it
yes thats true.. im more like a logical person so understanding the whole thing is what makes me feel.. but i can also definitely see someone feeling entirely on emotion.. as i have seen people do that
usually if its underground or inside i find the sneaky ones. also. theres a time delay on the next orb that pops up.
imma go see what i can d in soulframe now.. im playing it after like 1 year
so forgot all shi
also depends on the envorment you learn to speak in. mine was on a military base and was more foced then naturally taught.
yeah.. diffrent environment make big diffrence.. mine is farely average tho it dose have some unique stuff
also what tf is this yellow =circle
think its a bug i have it too
my god the dreaded looking up XD
prolly an unfinished quest
yeah i think that is it
i do have a quest unfinished
also why do i have ode tempest pact.. alot of people told me its not in starting one
shrugs
you knmow im surprised we dont have a lunar or solar based pact as we have a ay night cycle based on how well your gear does
I think
lunar and solar are Courage and and spirit
not pact but bound to us
in a diffrent manner
grace being stars i think
Is there any mount in game or smth?
no
steve thinks mounts gonna disrespact the world they have made
which is contradictory as they are planning to add fast travel
in next update or 2 lol
the game dose look beautiful.. but imo its a average jungle environment of any game
with Average POIs
what does that do with the red vines do?
this is faction hub
like u know warframe has red viel
this is called king of fire
and its his area/hub of sorts like tenshin cave
how you unlock them
what pact did u choose starting?
ode temp i believe
eventually u will get a quest for the pact u chose
i dont think thats a starting pact.. look in ur pact there should be one more
sirin?
yeah
those are the only 2 i have yeah
u will get a sirin quest eventually
u know those respawn points
little tablets with vines
how to trigger it? and yea
yeah eventually some letter or bird will be there
telling u to come to there house
thats how i got it
think its by maxing rank with the enclave
look at respawn points in this area.. high chance to spawn the letter or bird
;
you know to unlock fast travel or endless?
idk about endless.. but fast travel isnt an option rightnow.. they are said to be added in upcoming update through world tree
i swear its in recent patch notes to fast travel
oh yeah it is
its a currency i think lmao
u get it after bear quest
im currently doing it rn.. so i will see how it works
sure
u can join right now if u dont mind doing it fairly from the start casue im pretty early in quest lol
sure
sent
We should all, as a comunity, raise money to buy these poor NPCs some clothes. 😔 its getting to be cold out there and these poor people, the backbone of our experiance, can hardly afford more than a few scraps to keep themselves warm 🥺 only you can help those in need. Will you do your part envoy?
#Sweaters4Tuvalkane
late to this but Waste Bear had me crying too
does anyone know how many hues it takes to rank Verminia? I did 2 and the bubble filled, but seems to bug a bit
oh wait her note appeared I reckon I am good, just gotta figure it out from there lol
bro... that bear quest song. the song of growth? that shit made me tear up bro wtf
Is there a spotify for it?
Hi, does anyone have a key for the game they could give me? It's for a friend who couldn't request access due to a delay, and we want to play it tonight.
yep I've never searched something up so fast
Whats the namee
guessing i just have to wait ?
Yeah I believe so
Verminia R2 quest sounds so sad, it didn't have dialogue for me but I imagine the VA will kill it
Can someone tell me what i should do after bromius quest
so let me see if i got this. th planet we on. has 2 suns and a very fast moving moon ?
Wait till you hear about the stars
what do we do here? we found this statue activated it and its just a nonstop horde of enemies
are we missing something?
that is an endless tile, players use it to level pacts and weapons since mockeries (used?) to give the most XP, but alot has changed with how the xp is distributed so now Endless is more a group activity
thanksssssssss
hit your noghtfold. run away and come back, log if you have to, it should be there at night
found the cheese
Does Gathannan still drop from t2 and t3 alca tales?
careful you might summon Sheogorath and the insanity and chos tha could happen
Thanks everyone, I got them! Love you all! Good community!
anyone know how to access these yet
so confused, i freed the shewolf but for some reason i didn't get the shewolf snared quest? she kinda just ran away and i haven't been able to find her or anything, am i doing something wrong?
nope, keep clearing camps. She'll return.
I do think you need to be in the right area though
so is one new mision from prelude 12?
ahh ok, do you know which area i should be in?
On both ends of the entrance, there is a mechanism similar to the pillars that contaminate the water, some rotating masks. When you destroy them, the small rotating mechanism there stops, but that's all. I don't know what else can be done.
around the area you found her
but the wiki doesnt seem to imply it needs to be in a certain area so maybe that was just a coincidence for me.
ahh ok ty!!!
Just clear enemy groups/camps and listen for her howl and then look for her tracks and take out the enemies it leads to
How do I get a signed mora fragment? I have one and idk how I got it
I got the librarian, blacksmith, wolf, rat witch, and bear
Is there another questline or is that it? for p12
I've heard something about "cogah"
Wait 'til night, use Soul Sight, slay the Knight, and end the blight.
do mockeries no longer give the most?
Cogah is just a potion achieved through killing Agari and picking up their mushrooms, which you'll be doing anyways for their drops, and also retrieving wevetwood sap. You brew them at Verminia (rat witch)
||Thanks for this! I was also able to do this!||
Nice! Glad I could help
Wait, this still works?
It did about 30 minutes ago...
And probably will appear as a video on my channel in a few hours, with tons of spoiler alerts...
Gonna do this rn cause I want that tree
I just thought it was patched by now
Glad it's not lol
Sorry if repeat - Is it possible to craft Thunderstones?
there is not, sometimes random;y you can get a quest during a tale to find a thunderstone, but it's rare. Can't remember the last time I got a thunderstone to use against a collector...
This is more of a lore question but do we know if cassia is an island or a planet?
Thanks. Yeah. I had that happen to me twice recently, but you can't keep them, I hear. Even if you give up the tale, they disappear if you relog?
I know they call the planet we're on 'Alca' but I honestly not sure about cassia....I'm not as lore knowledgeable as others!
yeah, I tried to keep one to see if I could use it on a collector, sadly didn't work...
Thanks.
no problem!
At what point do the 'arachnids' show up? I'd like to mentally prepare/condition myself to them so I'm not .... pleasantly surprised.
Surely I am not the most knowledgeable, but here's what I noticed so far (and will be glad if someone adds / verifies this):
I have been playing for quite some hours (not crazy much) and have seen spider-like creatures in Neath'uns, during the Waste Bear, and near 2 of the world bosses locations. One of them spawns those spiders, the other doesn't - they're just there.
I don't know of any "point that the arachnids show up". Anyone care to help out here? Am I right?
I 100% bumped into ambient ones in like a 'nest' with eggs.... I made the mistake of playing this like Hogwarts Legacy with Zero Research because I enjoy exploring ........... XD
Now that you mention this, I will need to check my footage - I basically record all my playthrough, since it eventually will become YT videos (maybe) - they might be spawning in some areas, but then they probably won't appear in other areas.
So far like ... Lvl 1-15 hasn't had them.... But I'm unfortunately arachnophobic and need to find coping/avoidance methods
I hear you - well, some stuff gets dropped from specific world bosses, and you will have a hard time getting around that. Best thing to do - play those parts with another person, maybe?
Killing the Weaver was horrible. T.T
- Non-Stop ads.
- Autotargeting hitting the wrong things.
- dual-Daggers dealing 1 dmg.
Only good thing was all the materials i got from the spiders. 😄
Are they called ||sinecure||?
tbh still not sure lmao, sound like a corpo in cyberpunk
Pretty sure the Sinsecure are the conscripted finghters that the Ode forced to work for them.
That's why you have missions called "Clear the sinsecure encampment" and you destroy those guys.
Well if anyone can tell me their name/when they show up (if they do) in story stuff.... I'd appreciate it
Neath'uns is a dungeon to look out for, also black pits on the map. The Waste Bear is a fable that'll lead you to the Neath'uns. Anything with "Weaver" in the name (though by the time you see the name, you'll have seen the spider). Weavers currently aren't part of any fables iirc though
After I unlock the color NPC, do hues just start dropping randomly as I play or are they from something specific?
Does anyone have a map showing the enemy levels?
Does anybody know if Gathannan still drops from t2 & t3 alca tales. I have done so many but nothing.
Well, one set of colors you get from Verminia. After you unlocked her and she joins you in Nightfold, sometime later she'll disappear, and you'll have a mission "Do not find Verminia". Go ahead and "do not" find her, ||in the same place where you found here originally||, and part of that will unlock one set of colors. Later, you can use your guild standing to buy that guild's colors. For example, in the Silent Rose Enclave, approach the lady and ask for your standing, then "show favors" and you can "buy" "Sigil" - a set of colors.
Guys what is this? And how do I interact with it?
is that the pensive quest?
iirc that's just where you retrieve the quill
what are theseee i find em everywhere but cant do anything
These are motes.
just click on them with lmb while you're in Q mode
Use soul mode, and primary-"attack", like Q and left-clikc-and-hold.
That will pull the mote to you and reveal a little about the location you're at.
Decypher part of the name, and some of its hitsory.
Ohh okay gotcha! Now I know that part 😄
Glad I could help
how do u unlock like mods and stuff? im still just levelling weapons but ive freed so many caged animals D:
Said animals that you free from cages or the animals you can find running around give you those mods, totems.
Runes are something you get from the Agari subbosses
So basically I haver to find a boss first to unlock runes system? 🤔
and I can do nothing with the freed animals, i thought they were the mods
They do give you mods.
they are
right click on the weapons to open the runes menu
Im additced to polearm perfect throws, they feel so good 
guys i m lost where to go ?
|| Is the Verminia Quest when she leaves the nightfold the last story Q?||
It feels like after this q i dont know what to do besides farming materials
There is ||the Waste Bear quest as well...||
Use 'G' to trigger the guide sparrow (or something on controller) and follow it.
|| That was before. I found all three ancestors, wolf etc. after this all i had the second verminia quest||
yeah it is
So I guess this is all the content we have right now. Not 100% sure, but I think so.
kk, was wondering if im still missing something.
Do I have to drink Cogah for every boss? or just 1? Does it also apply to my team mate?
According to the reveal devstream - you drink it once, and Cogah begins, and everything - from simple sinsecure encounters all the way to bosses, all become harder, and it applies to the entire team. It ends when you die, but when playing with a team, teammates can revive other teammates a few times before Cogah ends.
any ideas on what they are used for?
They can be used to craft one of the Hues to recolor your clothing. See this: https://wiki.avakot.org/Will-o-frond
its needed to make Epona figment
Follow birb
hey gang. quick one, is there any "story" mission other than invitation, bear, wolf, stag and witch?
i would assume from there its just gameplay loop with the sparrow songs and leveling, dungeon crawls etc. I also have heard of Cogah but not sure where to get the "blueprint" for the potion for Cogah
invitation isn't a fable...but those other ones are and thats it
cogah is made from Agaric mushrooms
thank you kind sir
Ive found a ton of the agaric mushys though
have you done the last pensive?
yeah Verminia brews the cogah for you from those shrooms
uhhhh which one be that again xD it is possible i havent
Orlick's fable in the college of pensives
ah yes thats how you unlock the dude with baby on his shoulder in the nightfold yes?
correct Orlick the Bicameral
the baby is the other part of his soul
For what "Arts" do I get bonus when I level up my Pact?
go to pact upgrades in arsenal
thanks gamer! So pretty much all there is for me now is loop and level?
faction tales, dungeons, glades, the cogah, weapon farming
thank you sir
Oh i see, I understand it clearly now
yep the "arts" you're thinking of is only for weapons
Yeah. I discovered the pact upgrade recently and also found out I didn t have the founders pack version pact selected and I swapped to it now
And I didn t pay much attention of what I get when I level up a pacts so that why I asked
yeah thats also were you switch pacts
I heard that the founder s pack one is slightly better than the normal one?
EWxcept for the bonus points
idk about better, its about the same just visually looks better
Anyone know how to fix foliage problem where the leaves are going crazy across the screen?
Like it covers the entire screen
it makes the game unplayable
turn off volumetric wind
W
any idea why my friends waste bear sap is locked
if yall haven't fixed it yet, I had the same issue and when I had the Bear quest I just had to relog and it worked
i figured it out, cause he joined hues quest late with me he never got the sap tap
I thought I've got a palette for the first rank inmy faction but it's in 'fragments' - how many fragments do I need to craft a usable palette and how do I craft it?
1, you need to brew it at Verminia's
ahhh, I missed the button on the cauldron and thought all she does is change clothing colors 😄 thank you!
Is there a way to restart everything from the beggining?
Anyone know where i get this from?

The guy you just killed next to it
wait does he drop a thunderstone?
ah he dropped a little baggy bagy
appreciate you
only by making a new account at the moment.
Why restart?
How do u unlock endless dungeons
What is this all about?
I talked to a friend of mine about the game and he told me he would want to start again from scrath to learn the game
And I asked if it's possible, idk more
I think the tutorial only helps you pick your class
Not sure what a good way to re-learn mechanics would be
left over from Warframe, since both share the same engine
In WF, unidentified items were tied to mission completion (so people couldn't about mission to farm faster)
I think that screenshot might be a fallback for bugged items, it shows up when you get certain drops in someone else's world.
i got it solo once tbh
I got it solo also
i get unidentified items every time i destroy a oil rig thingy
How or where do I use Joinaries?
reforge tab at the smith
its a known bug disregard
I have to unluck it or what, I do not have it
Smith or the reforge option?. may have to level the smith to rank 2 by crafting stuff
Yeah, reforge option. I wasn t sure if leveling up the smith will do it. I already have things that are crafting to level it up so I was asking to be sure. Thank you
no problem 🫡
i cant find Orengall starting quest anyone has a link or know?
In website said north of Orol well but I cant find it nvm i found it
I want to, how should I say this lightly, violently dismantle Synod. I hate him as much as Nef Anyo and Ballas. I hope we get to do that eventually.
Minor lore nitpick
But when they say ancestors, it doesnt mean theyre related to you. In ye olde language times, it broadly means the people of your specific region/country who came before you
Anyone an idea in the crypts why this one has a face on Q mode?
do the others not have a face? did you hit that one first? Is it possible the face appears if you hit it in the right order? where was it? Can i try?
They all do make a gong sound. Just the face does not seem to appear somewhere else 🙁
that was part of the, now solved, Festival of the Circade which the wiki link and the puzzle solution is here:
#1441936503209988157 message
|| the armor you get from completing the room those buttons/gems unlock is a good set to get early||
Oh, that reminds me that I still haven't done that puzzle lol
hey are the faction armors or any of the faction rewards worth?
fire king armor is what bonuses? im mostly courage
however i wanna play bows so idk if to farm it, wbout the t2 t1 rewards?
wow crazy! thank you I guess there are a lot of things I do not know 🙂
does it disappear if you hit another node?
as if to indicate the first is the correct one. 2nd is wrong. etc.
Check the other answers. The solution is nothing one just pulls in the dungeon. Had to be a community effort
yeah i wasn't part of it but just looking at the archived post in the, now read only, private preludes server it was quite the community puzzle
Where do i send in a support ticket to help with my account?
I think my faction exp amount got bugged, i can't gain any and i am at 2198/20000
have you ran tales today to get to rank 3? could have possibly hit the daily cap
Is there supposed to be a daily cap?
I haven't seen any indication that this is the case
it's hidden sadly but we do know its only 16k/day with reset time being 00:00UTC
Yikes.. that's probably it then
On another note, what's a good spot to farm some Gossamer Quartz?
id check back in like 3 hours
as for gossamer quartz, i want to say glades chests but not 100% sure
so are 1 of the world trees missing ?
Shouldn't be! where are you missing
It’s probably the one on the island. I don’t think it’s accessible right now
thought it was the very top right
It’s top left , you can see it on the online map
yaaaa but that cheezing
it's accessible, either by a long underwater walk or getting someone to taxi you to it with a wevetseed
er, accessible is being used very loosely since it involves going out of bounds
hey i got a question can i only get over when i destroy it with a range weapon ?
hi folks, can two kind envoys please shoot me screen shots like this for the other two factions! Need Rose and Kings and then I will immediately get to updating the acquisition part of all faction items (doesn't need to be cropped like this just please be sure to get everything!) Needed to help update the wiki (in this chat in case folks don't want to see the factions that they're not in)
There's a guide in this chat. Go in the search bar and look for "Secret World Tree" in spoiler chat
So i just spent 50 Gossamer Quartz to craft a pact, and now after doing a dungeon it's all back in my inventory??
For Kith of Kings, the armor set is Fenn Jotar's armor set and weapon, as well as his Pact, Mora's Hand. It's a Courage enclave, so all of the Joineries are Blessed by Mora. Silent Rose has the Lady Deora armor set and her weapon, Rook, as well as the Garren Rood Armor set and Pact. It's a Spirit Enclave, so the Joineries are blessed by Sapphene. I think they all have Ode Tempest as another pact to purchase, but other than that, most of the wares are the same.

wait let me see what works
i prob linked it 1 sec
i did not,
so here's where i dropped it in the one channel that stays open for me in #1438224932323721296
#1440841974826406032 message
hop out there, go for a nice underwater stroll NW until you get up north and then a brisk Westward jog until you hit the island, how you get back to the main island is up to you;
- ode camp on coast to die to
- relogging
- burning a wevetseed to fast travel
I still think the fact that there's weapons Sollos-I Rivt-II and Vasp-IV but nothing that ends with III is [DE]Steve doing one of those high school goat prank jokes. 😛
||I think the real reason is there was probably a weapon ending in III in non-public pre-tennocon-2023-reveal pre-pre-pre-alpha stuff, but it was either cut early or renamed to something else||
... which makes me wonder why those weapons even still have the numerical suffix at all, unless there's a lore reason for it (something with them being odein weapons?)
Hey I can't put the same totem in the new slot?
Not anymore. Preludes 12 prevents you from putting the same totem in the same slit type.
I see... What should I put here instead? Second Squirrel? Or Beaver?
I have been running squirrel and beaver.
Verminia is like our great-great-grandma, right? (image from Soulframe Reddit)
Think more of the ancestors as "those who came before" and less like our direct family line
yeah that makes more sense
I guess predecessors would be a better term for them, no?
Anyone have a map for all the world trees?
This shows a lot of other stuff by default, so keep that in mind
Ty
is there some way to get rid of the shield from the "Reaper" boss in the glades?
ive been spamming it with my birds (oscelda 3) since its the only thing that i have equipped that seems to be able to pierce the shield, and im getting nowhere
Being unable to speak with Lady Deora without the talisman on feels like a crime. q_q
I’ve only fought the boss once, but what do you mean by shield? Is the health bar grey for you?
the health bar was red, but after i got it to ~50% hp it got a blue sphere around it and my arrows and flyblades couldnt hit it, so i jst started spamming my birds and the flyblade orbit and eventually killed it dealing 1 damage per hit
Have they hotfixed Bromius pact yet? Saw something in the wiki ab a bug
Why is the bear so strong?
have you tried to punch a bear
Is the barrel too sexy for this game?
Any tips for the stupid Waste Bear?
Bring healing if you have it, ranged helps give you reaction space, time your dodges carefully.
just beat it... after like 15 attempts and with like 1 hp remaining
never wanna fight that again
Careful or you'll spawn the grumpy old lady with stories of back in her day.
But yeah the fight's a bit of a pain in the butt.
I keep taking DOT
Looked it up and it says to avoid the breath and get far away but the DOT hits no matter what
sacred shimmer being a rank 3 reward feels criminal
Dot comes from the root attacks. If you dodge them you should avoid it.
weird, I take no damage dodging from the roots but still get procced, thanks for the advice I'll try again 🙏
am i suppose to encounter "something" right after the bear
How much Cogah is too much? xD
tethren's 1st ability + flyblades do pretty decently against the wastebear, its a good way to get fast damage on it
idk if I've cracked the code to beating bosses but tbh it dispatches bosses really easily in general
From the wiki
Upom completing The Waste Bear, the Nightfold will also be home to the Wise Elm from which 1-3 Wevetseeds may be harvested every 24 hours to use in Soulframe's Fast Travel system.
I just finished the Waste Bear, I dont see the place to get the Wevetseeds
it's by verminia's lil island
dont suppose you can screenshot where, im not seein in
not in game rn but it's on the left in a little pot
Geez they TRIPPING
It's a silver pot with a branch on it, less a big tree and all that xD
for some reason it aint there...
had to leave my friends squad, its there now, odd
Hi everyone, is there any quests after the one where Vermina goes missing? Or am I all caught up now and its just farming bosses/faction rep?
Has Bromius' Barkbare and Canopy's Blessing passives been fixed?
The ending cutscene of The Waste Bear made me feel some type of way 🥹
The same thing happened to me. Were you rendered slow as well?
Yeah that’s how you summon the Elden ring player saying “ I beat promised consort Radahn pre-nerf.”
"I beat Waste Bear day 1 pre-nerfs with no armour because the stats were broken with an underlevelled starting magick wand"
(True story though)
Oh, you have no idea how much it actually does.
You literally will just keel over in like 2 hits without it.
It's a bit ineffective in higher level stuff though.
Bet it’s worse on cogah
Finally got MK's Sabatons!
Is The Paragon great sword worth using for late/end game?
At this point in development of the game I feel like most any weapons are still viable in all content
Cogah isnt that bad tbh, just tough if the boss has add summoning and youre not rocking mad good DPS
use Tethren Fellust ability while it's still OP
bows are best, magic 2nd
Can anyone explain me the difference between the wyld tethren and the regular one? like i read online that if u level both up it like stacks on ability points so u can unlock more of the class but i wanna make sure thats correct before i switch my maxed wyld to the regular one so I can gain more points
They do stack on ability points, 30 from regular and 30 from wyld for a total of 60 points, and don't worry, they share the same skill tree so once you max out the regular pact you can switch back to the wyld and have 60 points
oh heck yeah that saves a lot of time lol thank you! im guessing that also implies for the other wyld classes
could anyone help me figure out what helmets I'm missing? I'm looking at avakot and I'm only missing 5 there but ingame I'm missing an additional 5 (10 total)
Yes it does
I remember seeing this line back in hotfix 1: "Implemented damage-scaling and VFX for The Cogah Talismans."
Does anyone have any footage of the VFX on the cogah talismans?
Anyone know how to open the stone door below the massive bridge in Dermak? I feel like I've looked around everywhere but can't find anything to interact with. I can hear a chest in the room behind it, so surely there's a way to get in
Is the pup quest bugged? I've done it twice now and no key drop
havent defeated the bear yet. the mans been drinking hooch though!
who let this bear have alcohol?
The Dermak part?
When you need to free the orgnell pups, not getting any key drop to open the crate
I think its semi random, i had to do three runs on the third pup to get a key
Should always drop from one of the enemies, but you may have gotten a bit unlucky with where those died
Does it matter which of the puppies I pick?
Are there any quests after Orengall?
Just colour
Got bear and french rat lady?
Yes
Then you’re done
So the Bear Quest says to "Seek the Sap" .... I found the Sap but I can't touch it?
You may need to relog and chat to Verminia, you'll need the sap tap item
Huh ... So it says for me to (on her quest) "Join with Ancestor Verminia" .... but what does that mean?
Go chat with her I believe
Yeah I just go immediately into the Color Screen and I don't have any ... and I can't do Faction Stuff to unlock Faction Color Schemes until I deal with the Bear. XD
Do you have a sap tap in your inventory?
Nope
She won't talk to me, she just pulls me immediately into the 'coloring screen'.
And you've relogged already? There was a sap tap bug that should have been fixed but it may still be causing issues, if you don't have it and a relog doesn't give you it make a support ticket
Yeah
But bro with that your rump will thump everything
I found the wolf cage but it's locked ... and I killed everything in the room, is it bugged?
One of the enemies should have dropped a bag with a key
Yeah ... the wolf momma tackled them and I think the bag fell through the cage.... Whelp
The quest for like an hour kept taking me to the EXIT of the dungeon .... so that's fun 😄
Yeah ... she won't give me the sap tap and I've rebooted the game...
the 3h respawn from bosses.. is it per location or for the specific boss everywhere?
Who do i need to contact for not be able to buy founder pack? This is 4th time im trying to buy this. Its like universe trying to tell me to better save the money and not spending it on this
My personal favorite i haven't changed off it since i got it
Is there a quest/fable related to why the Ode built the wall/s, and built the new towers? or we not discovered that yet?
(I was gonna make a political joke here, but decided against it)
Well the walls used to be there in P1
They're just back now, with more of them, presumably at release they'll have always been there
gotcha, i joined at P11, and didnt recall seeing them, so i thought they was new-new, but if they are old-new then thats all goods
Yeah in the first preludes the walls were thrown in there just to block in the map to what was done, and then in a devstream recently they mentioned bringing them back and adding ode stuff like the towers and decorations on castles and the like to help sell that the Ode are an occupying force that has settled
ahh, so its just more world building stuff, got it
exactly... its kinda annoying to run around it though... but ig thats the point
Does it have any unique ability? 
No idea
I did a 112 yesterday, so no unless something changed
what happened then lmao
just stopped spawning, none of us died
🤷♀️
it has the ability that makes you look really cool...other than that it's a hard hitting weapon 😆
Fair enough lmao I still use the paragon greatsword but I wanna switch
Is wastebear the only quest that gives bonus virtues?
still haven't leveld the paragon and purity, but Needleseye with 36 point in grace slaps hard. I just wish GS had a little more "reach". Sometimes it looks like the sword should hit, but you miss for so little...
I love that the paragon has a unique ability where if you pull smite with it it charged the corresponding color of the smite you pull and if you have all three and you do a heavy attack it does I think like an extra 125+ damage
I did it until 204 got bored after I dont think it has a level cap
yesh i saw that! The problem for me is that I always spam heavy attacks, so it's going to be difficult to store the 3 souls before doing one lol
Tbh I’ve been using the Thrice Spurns flyblade the most out of any weapon lmao I combine it with the Tethren Fellust ability and I noticed it melts hella
Anyone familiar with the lore at all?
been trying to piece things together but not too sure i understand much
Everything I understand so far is
Character is especial lil human with abilities to be like a Disney princess and have cool abilities 
there's some empress and we kinda serve her? idk
other than the ode (and i assume parts of humanity) trying to infect and corrupt nature and nature is fighting back through its guardians. I remember in one of the cutscenes i believe Garren mentioned that we have something special about us from way back when (i'm assuming when nature was more in harmony and were more symbiotic with humans) and it propels them to lend us their powers
yeeeeeah! started to level them yesterday, i love flyblades. With the right totems you get lots of smite and stagger. They're my preferred side weapons when going melee...and with the rune you also get lightning strikes for days!
but some of the voicelines that the blacksmith says along with some of the other vendors leave me a bit confused
but also Garren was already pretty tight with Lady Deora so maybe she's got it too
I still haven’t been able to get a rune ;—;
Guys what I have to do after I finish the wolf quest?
