gameplay-discussion

[upbeat mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-discord-loading-discord-boxes-squares-gif-16187521

[smoky crater]

nice loading

[vocal venture]

so whats the best armor in the game?

I've heard kings but

[knotty moon]

Mendicant, Pensives, and Orengall most likely.
For Courage, Spirit, and Grace.

Maybe Mestra instead of Orengall, not sure how they compare.

[visual radish]

Heard it is best to mix the two

[twin skiff]

Do we have a good Orst farming route yet?

[knotty moon]

End points are dungeons for resets.

[twin skiff]

Thank you kindly.

[azure fulcrum]

why farm ORST?

[knotty moon]

To find the shiny and/or the legendary.

[azure fulcrum]

it's not even that good a weapon (moveset wise)

what constitutes a shiny/legendary orst

having all boons?

[knotty moon]

Personally I like the moveset, but I agree it is not the most efficient.

[twin skiff]

Do you also do it in Cogah or normal?

[azure fulcrum]

I wish greatswords had a different feel to great maces

[knotty moon]

Shiny is literally that, a cosmetic effect that is shiny, also has a special flare in the tooltip. (technically it is called Moonsteel)
Legendary is the highest craftwork, with up to 8 perks.

[azure fulcrum]

could it be both legendary AND shiny?

[knotty moon]

In theory, yes.

[azure fulcrum]

has anyone found one?

[knotty moon]

Dunno, didn't keep that close an eye on the chat.

[azure fulcrum]

Swords shouldn't move like blunt weapons

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345

[knotty dock]

hi, are bows still strong ?

[smoky crater]

strong enough yes

[mystic furnace]

How does the reset work so u are able to save what u got after closing the session?

[mystic furnace]

I mean, what can u do to force the save and restart the session after

[trim willow]

the bow is only as strong as the archer

[knotty moon]

Usually exiting the game should save the inventory, but for safety I generally go to the Nightfold first (which should also be a save trigger).

That said I meant the world spawn resetting when entering and exiting a dungeon.

[mystic furnace]

Oh, that was the thing then. I got it wrong with what I heard in a video a while ago. Thanks for the info

[unborn rain]

Heard people saying legendary and shiny only drops in cogah, not sure if it's true tho

[knotty moon]

Should not be, unless it was changed with one of the hotfixes.
Doesn't even have a noticeable better drop.

[twin skiff]

If it matters any, I just got a Legendary with 7 modifiers in Cogah lol

[unborn rain]

shiiiii, that's fire congrats

[unborn rain]

which level the enemies were at more or less?

[twin skiff]

42ish

[unborn rain]

nice

why is the 7th temper out of the grid tho 😭😭☠️

[knotty moon]

Bug, 7th and 8th have a new line, but no justification.

[unborn rain]

that's funny

[twin skiff]

yeah lol

[unborn rain]

the voltatic one is pretty dope, I'm sad you didn't get it on your orst

[frank barn]

It looks cooler than it actually is. I think Voltaic is only one damage.

Im hoping there will also be toxon, fire, bleed ect...

[smoky crater]

Eventually maybe

[potent steppe]

what are the 2 stars above lvl 30 ?

[smoky crater]

I will say if you didnt watch the envoy hour with Joe Buck, is a very nice one with some of his ideas about possible additions later on

[smoky crater]

Item rarity

[potent steppe]

ahh ty ty

guys i barely played this game , are buying bundles for arca worth it ? u get armor and skill pact

[smoky crater]

The bundles you buy with arcs? Not worth it imo

Founder packs however are well worth it imo but those are for actual money

[potent steppe]

you can get all pacts ingame by playing ?

[frank barn]

All weapons have it. Its generally weapon rarity and goes 1-3. It does seem to correlate with power though Orst III also has different tiers that dont effect the stars.

[smoky crater]

Yes

[potent steppe]

cool

[smoky crater]

The ones from founder packs too eventually

More so you can get everything you see in the shop for free by grinding

[frank barn]

Everything except the wyld pacts which are currently founders pack only but are also duplicates of existing pacts.

[potent steppe]

i got founder edition just cuz i missed on warframe :v(

[smoky crater]

[distant jungle]

You do get some kind of boost for smiting a wyld pact's matching color.

They got that difference added back to them.

Idk if it's an attack boost or a virtue boost though, some kinda damage increase either way.

[frank barn]

I've never noticed that

[sly escarp]

Not anymore it seems

[distant jungle]

No, I mean like, as of two days ago.

Lasts for 20 seconds.

[sly escarp]

The Wylds got their buffs back????

Omg omg omg

[finite stone]

Huh that's cool, had no idea wylds got buffs again?!

[frank barn]

The main benefit of wyld is that having both base and wyld is like having a orokin reactor on your pact. They pool upgrade points

[distant jungle]

The glow on your arm sticks around for eternity, but the buff lasts for 20 seconds.

[sly escarp]

Is it the old +10 virtue buffs?

Or something else?

[distant jungle]

Not sure, as even then it didn't show up in your virtues.

I know it buffs weapons past their normal scaling cap.

[finite stone]

You're not using a wyld weapon right? (as they have their own separate buff which would conflict with testing the pact buff)

[distant jungle]

Nah, Gath.

[finite stone]

awesooome gonna see how this works

[potent steppe]

but wyld weapons got more dmg

[sly escarp]

Technically they get a damage boost to their next heavy or rune attack

[finite stone]

Yes their buff never got removed from the game, but chloranthy is saying that the pact one (which got removed in P13) has been added back

[sly escarp]

Or, well, a new one got added it sounds like?

[finite stone]

Not too sure yet but need to confirm either way!

[sly escarp]

If it's overscaling that means it's probably a direct damage buff

That or she's maybe running the armour strip on smite totem...

[finite stone]

Oh true you're right, if it were just +10 virtue it'd cap

[sly escarp]

But that seems unlikely

She knows her stuff

[distant jungle]

Before and after getting a smite, and it wasn't even matching, it was blue.

I hit enemies before and after and the damage did change.

[potent steppe]

what is smite?

[distant jungle]

And this is beyond Gath's max scaling.

[potent steppe]

dmg buff?

[neat pecan]

does anyone know why the purity has a 3 in 50 smite chance in the store but when its in my inventory its 9 in 100/

[sly escarp]

So a flat +40 damage buff maybe? Does it apply to all weapons?

[distant jungle]

I was hitting enemies that die in one hit and I'm not using armor strip on smite.

[sly escarp]

Smite chance buffs from the weapon art

[finite stone]

Smite is Soulframe's equivalent of a 'Critical Hit' system, it's how you perform Pull Smites on enemies to recharge your Rune etc

[potent steppe]

ahh ty

[neat pecan]

once i reset my combat arts for heavy it went back to 3 in 50

[sly escarp]

Yeah, so you lost some smite chance. Definitely the buff from the arts then

3/50 = 6/100, which is less than 9/100

You were getting +3% smite chance from arts

[neat pecan]

Gotcha thanks for the explanation

[distant jungle]

After and before, weird order I know lol.

But it's triggering on any color smite, this time was green, and looks to be a flat +40 to both weapons for 20 seconds.

[sly escarp]

That's...honestly kinda sweet? Especially for low base damage weapons like dual short blades

A flat buff means they get way more percent benefit from the buff

[finite stone]

Is there anything else that increases general damage (not against the smitten enemy) after getting a smite?

I was testing my base (non-Wyld) Sirin and:

Espadarte charged attack on a barrel - 244
Espadarte charged attack on barrel after smite - 281
Espadarte charged attack no barrel after waiting 20 seconds - 244 again

Espadarte charged attack on barrel with Wyld Sirin - 284?!

OH wait hang on, I think I know

[distant jungle]

Not that I'm aware of, it'd be funny if it's just something universal applying.

[finite stone]

I'm afraid it is hahaha sorry I should've remembered

It's Voided

[distant jungle]

Oh, did they change that?

[finite stone]

It's got an extremely bad in-game description

[distant jungle]

I thought for sure it just increased smite damage.

[finite stone]

I'm not actually sure what changed about its in-game effect, if ever

[finite stone]

Yes this is what it implies from its description, but it's wiiildly misleading

[smoky crater]

think it should say "Deal increased damage after Smite"

[finite stone]

it increases your general weapon damage overall, against all enemies (not just the smitten one) after smiting any enemy

[distant jungle]

Well, more reason to get voided then lol.

Cus +40 for 18 seconds is pretty good.

[finite stone]

Exactly yeah, I think just a case of an old description that DE need to retouch at some point

[smoky crater]

yeh

[finite stone]

I will test this with Wyld Sirin now to see if there's any difference, if not then ig the buff is probably still AWOL hahah

[potent steppe]

what is warframe in soulframe dont get it

[finite stone]

Warframe is not in soulframe, it is a different live service game by the same dev, first made back in 2013

[outer olive]

Pacts act as Warframes

[potent steppe]

my bad ,frames*

[smoky crater]

oh.... yeah the Warframe equivalents are Pacts

[potent steppe]

ok

[smoky crater]

tho pacts just change your right arms covering, not your whole character

[distant jungle]

But they don't define you as much I feel.

Though they are the closest equivalent.

[smoky crater]

yeah

[finite stone]

The word 'Frame' is generally used to mean 'body' in Soulframe, like when you first use your gender, or in the flavour text for certain abilities etc.

[outer olive]

lot more in the woodworks that needs to repolished

[trim oriole]

I think its about time i give up

not a single good one lol

plus 50 i deleted before i just started spamming capacity

[potent steppe]

i saw a noble one is that good?

[distant jungle]

Rn I'm tryna farm Seathorn again and I've now done 27 T3 votives without a single frag.

It's... great.

[potent steppe]

1 more try

[distant jungle]

I am not dying inside.

[trim oriole]

not really

[smoky crater]

somewhat yes

it's enough

[potent steppe]

noble is like 3 of 5 tier?

[smoky crater]

mmmm stock/military/officer/noble/sovereign/legendary...

4/6

[potent steppe]

how to get legendary?

[smoky crater]

luck

[potent steppe]

ok

[distant jungle]

Sacrificing your firstborn.

[finite stone]

If you find an answer, lemme know!

[potent steppe]

i played 2 hours i dont know :v(

[trim oriole]

think i'll just wait til friday at this point and see what they cooking for p15 for this system

[sly escarp]

@finite stone Verdict of a non-voided smite hit? Not damage boost or?

[finite stone]

Base (non-Wyld) Sirin w/ Rank 19 Espadarte:

Espadarte charged attack on a barrel - 244
Espadarte charged attack on barrel after smite - 284 (Voided buff)
Espadarte charged attack on barrel after waiting 20 seconds - 244 again (Voided gone)

Wyld Sirin w/ Rank 19 Espadarte:

Espadarte charged attack on a barrel - 244
Espadarte charged attack on barrel with Wyld Sirin - 284
Espadarte charged attack on barrel after waiting 20 seconds - 244 again (Voided gone)

Definitely no Wyld buff but I will remove Voided and do some clean tests just out of curiosity!

[finite stone]

Base Sirin w/ R20 Espadarte, no Voided:

248 before smite
248 after smite

And got the same numbers with the Wyld. So yeah I think it was just Voided increasing your weapon damage after a pull smite @distant jungle - Wyld Pacts are still cosmetic only (other than the extra 30 available arts from ranking both variants)

[distant jungle]

Sadge.

Oh, I do know now that post-death smites sometimes not working despite being mentioned in the patch notes as fixed is not a rune problem.

As Voided fails to trigger too sometimes, lol.

[raw harness]

is orengall still crashing peopels games

[distant jungle]

So it's just the smite not counting as a smite and not triggering anything that'd detect one.

Be it a rune charge, Voided, or likely any other trigger.

[distant jungle]

Yes.

[fallow arch]

I dont think you can weaken a dead guy

[raw harness]

guess ill go back to using sirin for the time being

dont wanna be the guy crashing people's games

[fallow arch]

no?

[distant jungle]

What it does is give you a buff for 18 seconds, it doesn't do anything to the guy.

[distant jungle]

And yes, it still has hardlock problems.

[fallow arch]

I was pretty sure voided just stripped some armor off the smite target

[distant jungle]

Nope, apparently does this, just the text being incredibly unintuitive.

[fallow arch]

ye the text reads as if the enemy is in a weakened state

i.e. viral/corrosive from warframe

[finite stone]

This is what it looks like from the in-game description, but yeah it's pretty misleading (might be old text from when it used to be Idolize instead of Voided, dunno)

[fallow arch]

ah

[abstract glade]

I guess I wasn't paying attention when the game taught me how to do it, but what does sucking up the colors do?

[finite stone]

That's a pull smite, it damages the enemy heavily and does other stuff based on your pact arts, like buffing your damage or healing you

It also recharges your rune, visible by the gold gauge around your spirit arcanic

And it also restores some cooldown for the arcanic corresponding to the colour of the soul you smite

[abstract glade]

Oh so I can do it on an enemy that's still alive? Neat

[distant jungle]

Yep.

[naive lagoon]

I'm so confused about the weapon mechanics, is there anywhere I can read up about ts?

[finite stone]

Yeah sure! You can read up about all weapon mechanics on the https://wiki.avakot.org/Weapons page ⚔️

But if you've any questions about specific mechanics, feel free to ask!

[naive lagoon]

ok ty

there are like 5 different wikis with different domains and each of them are sketchy AF so good to know to use this one from now on

[finite stone]

Yes it's early days haha, this is the one built by the actual community but because the for-profit organisations like Fextra put a lot of money into their SEO, it will take a while for google to fully catch up with what the community are doing

it's happening slowly but surely though, which is good!

[broken zephyr]

How does magic and wizard shenanigans work in soulframe? Is it "Staff that is pretty much a gun by another name" kind of thing or is more ability/spell based?

[finite stone]

It depends which type of magic - the staves and wrist casters (weapon types) are both guns with light or charged casts

but then the abilities from pacts are all pretty unique, and especially the ones from Oscelda (witch pact) where you can turn enemies to stone, or conjure a flock of birds to distract and stagger enemies, it's a neat fantasy.

Then you've got runes, which have various effects ranging from your simple fire attacks to things like conjuring waves of misty energy from your sword or turning yourself invisible

[broken zephyr]

Multiple types of magic!? This game may spoil me, I cant wait to be able to play it

[finite stone]

Oh if you're still in need of a key you can get a free one from watching this live tomorrow! https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1497014368913854514

[ruby tusk]

is feybalt or gildaur better on seathorn?

[hexed field]

How does Unsula work, it does a whole bunch of random clanging but I cant figure out what it's actually doing The clanging is my bromius pact reducing armor values. blocking with Unsula also seems really slow for what is essentially dual daggers. Also sometimes dogs are immune to these, may just be me skirting a line between enemy level and weapon output

really missing a dagger rune, what do i farm for those or does RNG hate me?

[vocal venture]

What pacts would yall recommend?

[hexed field]

Yes.

[vocal venture]

Yes is not a pact

[hexed field]

Correct.

Try them all, find one you like.

That's the fun of games like this, you get to choose.

I myself have found use for Orengall, Bromius and Sirin, the three I currently possess.

Tethryn and Oscelda, Possibly Sirin (That makes all three starting pacts) had I not picked it, are available for standing from Lady Deora. You needn't worry about missing out.

I have a bugged Sineculum that I can't turn into standing.

[restive olive]

You probably hit your daily standing cap?

[hexed field]

Nope. Never hit the cap at all actually.

literally just says I can't sell the item at this time.

[restive olive]

Question about founder packs: if I buy the paragon pack, I know it includes all the three wyld packs and the greatsword. But what else does it include? Does it also have all 3 armor sets, color schemes, sparrow cosmetics?

[hexed field]

-# for $99 it ought to have all three.

[restive olive]

Is that a definitive answer or just what you're hoping?

[hexed field]

I have no intention of purchasing any of the bundles.

[copper epoch]

Paragon does come with everything in the other packs yea

[glacial lintel]

Will I be able to get duelo without a guide

[hexed field]

By searching this server, yes.

[lofty birch]

where are the location spawn boss's for the tribune tailsman pieces?

[upbeat basin]

guys current state is enough for fun? or wait few years more? i play few hours - was awesome

[upper osprey]

it is

[tender bone]

where do you farm mockery set?

[lunar vault]

do bosses in dungeons have a cooldown like normal ones

[lofty birch]

can't get the circade to spawn I have three pendants and doing them at the right times.

[supple hatch]

am i missing something?

nvm figured it out

[void iris]

is it possible to get an invite to soulframe for a friend? or do they just need to get it from a twitch drop ?

[ripe bone]

there is a envoy hour today so both you and your friend can watch it with a linked account for the twitch drop

[wintry peak]

Can I only play this game by invitation?

[ripe bone]

you can also watch envoy hour after linking your soulframe account to twitch to get a code as a twitch drop

there is one today so you dont have to wait long

[wintry peak]

Ah, so I can't try it right away... I downloaded it but was curious, so I asked haha.

[barren scroll]

Don’t just link the wiki in order to answer a question, it’s vague and not useful. If you wish to assist people in questions please provide information within the discord server first; if you are unable to explain fully then you can link the resource.

[warm gazelle]

hello im doing this quest but i dont see any spirits at the lodge

[blissful bramble]

Same XD

[echo heron]

🗿

ouroboros ahh path

[grave terrace]

wuh

why are they here

location if anyone wanted to know

[worn lance]

Pretty sure you need to wait for night time, and if they don't spawn just log out and in again, happened to me as well, did that and they spawned in

[vast pasture]

man is aura farming I believe

[halcyon comet]

omg wait is this another appearance

[marble nimbus]

how do we find all the history motes at salzbrim? I've been touring around for like 20 mins and only found 1 of them

[sinful scarab]

motes have 1 hour cooldown, or you can relog to make them spawn again without waiting an hour

[marble nimbus]

thank you so much!

[smoky crater]

isn't it 45min?

[finite stone]

48 yeah, it's one full day/night cycle according to whoever tested it back in the preludes server days

[smoky crater]

wack +3 minutes

unless that was a typo

[finite stone]

Nah it's real haha, each 'segment' of the cycle (mora rises, etc) is 16mins

[smoky crater]

[icy sparrow]

yo guys i want alpha code to play this beautiful game

[smoky crater]

not allowed to ask for them here.
you can get one from the stream later today
https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1497014368913854514

[icy sparrow]

ok ty

[verbal fulcrum]

parrying is so strong in this game, it's kind of disappointing how most world bosses seem to crumble if you just parry

[wild cradle]

Any idea what the fogman/wandering soul inside the dungeons does? I think I can smite him but is that all?

[finite stone]

That's the ghost of Fenn Jotar, he used to be an introduction to the pull smite mechanic yeah, you would bond with his soul and wield his flaming sword until you exited the dungeon

Now he's used to give the player a free rune during Torment Stag (I think) - but it makes him a bit buggy in any interactions outside that later in the game. It makes your spectral sight go weird and you have to relog

[wild cradle]

I guess devs overlooked that part. Thanks for explanation!

[smoky crater]

He gives the rune after the dungeon but also a free temporary rune for the duration of the dungeon

Which... Overrides any already equipped runes...

[knotty moon]

As far as I know it only gives a rune if you have a starter weapon type equipped (sword, magick, bow).

Fairly sure he is only supposed to do that in Tormented Stag as well.

[smoky crater]

Hm

[amber oar]

Hey everyone, yesterday I lvled up my standing with Alca's Children, it consumed my standing, gave me a reward and set back to lvl 1 with 0 standing. Today I finished crafting a bunch of weapons which was enough to lvl up standing with Tuvalkane from 2 to 3, but instead of leveling it reset me to lvl 2 with 0 standing. Is this bug or an expected behavior?

[knotty moon]

Bug (for Tuvalkane), though most likely just visual, after reloging should return the correct value.

Factions start at rank 0, so you most likely have the correct ranking, though if not a relog should fix that too.

[amber oar]

Thank you, that was probably the case

[dapper sigil]

do virtues "empower" the respective ability they are associated with?

[knotty moon]

Yes.

[dapper sigil]

are there any tables that showcase how the distribution influences those

[knotty moon]

Though Spirit by itself reduces the cooldown of all abilities.

[dapper sigil]

so empower is strictly in terms of damage or cooldown?

[knotty moon]

Red abilities by Courage, Green ability by Spirit, and Blue abilities by Grace.
Fairly simple system.

[dapper sigil]

thats not what i mean

[knotty moon]

The virtues do have effect by themselves, as described in the Virture screen. (Courage = defense and lots of HP, Spirit cd reduction, Grace stealth multipliers)

If you meant how they are empowered the wiki does have some breakdowns, not sure they are all updated though, but should be fairly indicative.

[dapper sigil]

yes i meant the latter

like in moras hand: does courage make the tick damage of the AOE higher?

things of that nature

or does it expand the field of effect?

yada yada

[knotty moon]

Best bet is to check here, switch tab to the ability you want and see Ability Details.
https://wiki.avakot.org/Mora's_Hand#Ignus_Wroth

[sour pilot]

I'm gonna try Cogah for the first time, any tips aside from "don't die"?

[strong shore]

what am i suppose to do?

[knotty moon]

Archers are a priority target, slugs are a mortal threat, abilities recharge slower so don't count on them too much (approximately once per encounter).
Heal on pull smite is quite useful since there are less heals going around.

[sour pilot]

Good to know, thank you!

[strong shore]

hey any know what to do

[knotty imp]

make sure to have at least 1 point in Sympathy for whatever pact you are using

[knotty moon]

Also try not to get surrounded, if you do disengage and face the enemies one on one or in small groups.

[wet pivot]

hey i have a question what should i buy with my 100 arcs?

[knotty moon]

Slots cost 150 now, so not sure.
Keep them until they hand out another 50 maybe?

[wet pivot]

okay ty

what slots doing?

i feel like my inventory is never full

[knotty moon]

Armor (Talismans do not count), Pact, and Weapons.
You start with 50, and each purchase is 50 more. (up to 300)

[wet pivot]

but what they meen buy invetory is it the invotory for weapon?

[knotty moon]

Inventory is combined, they all use the same slots.

(Loadout slots are a separate thing still though)

[wet pivot]

all right but idk why i have waymore then 50 slots and i purshass nothing

ooohhh nvm

[knotty moon]

🤔
Maybe I'm wrong on the initial count?

[wet pivot]

i think i undersrtant

i think its 35 slots for each cathégories of inventory but when they are combined the total is waymore

it is why i was confused

[knotty moon]

No, there are no separate categories of slots.

Do keep in mind that the camel will show how many slots you have left, not how many you have.

[wet pivot]

aaahhhh

bro im so confuse haha

[knotty moon]

If you have Sollos (weapon), Thetren set (helm, chest, pants), Witan (Sidearm), and Thetren Pact you will have used 6 slots out of your starter 50.

[wet pivot]

ahhhh ok

i get it

shit that was not realy explicit

ty for explain me

[knotty moon]

Yeah, the system was changed recently and the ingame explanation are still a bit poor (not that the previous system was well explained either).

[frigid knoll]

hi will they reset everything once full release? what about character names

[knotty moon]

Nope, you get to keep everything.

[frigid knoll]

okk ty

[knotty moon]

Or at least everything they don't outright remove from the game. 😛

[keen river]

they'll have to pry my eldores and grey golds out of my cold, dead hands >:o

[thorn ruin]

play song

[subtle salmon]

"cool". 6th wazzards hat fragment. only 1 of the pants/upperbody combined.

[knotty moon]

Armor is dictated by the organ you are doing, do more of the central/southern ones.

(unless you are doing full runs, in which case, RNG)

[subtle salmon]

I'll give it a shot. Mainly do the northern one since it's where I farm enclave standing. Have done the other 2 locations maybe twice each

[sturdy mantle]

Yeah, each piece is on a separate loot table

[knotty moon]

Yeah, that's the reason then.

[subtle salmon]

Thank you, figured they were shared.

What is ode infamy about with sieges?

[knotty moon]

WIP, it does nothing yet.

It is supposed to represent how much the Ode are pissed off at the Envoy sabotaging their stuff, with possible gameplay consequences.

[spare badge]

And better drop chances on some stuff, and more faction rep gained.

Sorta risk/reward thing.

[subtle salmon]

Nice, thank you

[worn hedge]

speaking of... what's the first thing to go when you run out of inv slots? Trying to craft every piece of armor I can is backfiring

I have like a trillion different totems

[knotty moon]

If you have the Arcs buy more, if only playing with the starter ones, see if you got some extra Orst to throw away, failing that start to see what Armor and Weapons you want to keep (I don't suggest selling the Pacts).
Only Armor (Talisman excluded), Weapons and Pacts occupy slots.

Things you have the fragments to recraft are the most likely best choices to sell, after you have maxed them at least once if they are weapons.

[worn hedge]

that seems like a good idea. I wanted to wait a bit longer on a founder pack. Ty

[knotty imp]

you also do not need to get every single piece of armor

as armor does not gain you mastery exp

[spare badge]

Junky weapons, if you don't have the arcs for slots.

[upper osprey]

a question.. anyone here got the moon-forged orst-3?

[knotty moon]

If you simply want to see what it is like: https://wiki.avakot.org/Weapons#Moonsteel_Weapons

[upper osprey]

yeah, the thing i was wanting to ask is if the person got in cogah or not.. xD
if the rate is the same for everything or there is a way to get easier.

[knotty moon]

As far as I know it doesn't matter, that said I have none myself so who knows. (I have farmed in Cogah a couple of days before giving up)

[polar dragon]

Where is this located?

[knotty moon]

Inside the Glades, one of the random tiles.

[polar dragon]

ty

[sour pilot]

Do you folks have tips for getting a bunch of Moranite?

[spare badge]

Run dungeons. https://wiki.avakot.org/Moranite#Drop_Sources

Also, hope that DE gets around to fixing the description.

[rain apex]

hey yall, I haven't played this in a good while, I see there have been new updates, is there maybe a chance this thing now runs on linux systems?

[knotty moon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Guide:Soulframe_on_Linux

[rain apex]

thank you, will look into it

oh lutris, yikes

99% chance that app wont even install properly

[knotty moon]

I don't think it is the only solution, something about Steam too.

Not quite sure how, but I hear it runs well.

[rain apex]

lutris is like a steam emulator, but steam runs natively on linux now with linux runtime and proton experimental

[ripe bone]

it runs when it wants to on steam

[rain apex]

it should run well by all acounts, linux is not a resource hog

[knotty moon]

I heard "proton experimental" mentioned before in these context, so probably that too.

[rare pagoda]

Does anyone know where the intel would be in this area? I have searched the whole place twice and relogged, nothing...

[rain apex]

i know warframe runs only when using proton experimental, it goes around its anticheat check i think or just makes it possible to continue the anticheat check, not sure, without it the game stops installing at the anticheat section

[smoky crater]

i see mistrel in distance.... i must commit long distance shot with bow

[lethal tundra]

@rare pagoda first try exiting the game reloading. Then look for then look for like stands or treasure chest the Intel maybe on those sometimes

[rare pagoda]

Yeahhhh it was busted 😔 didn't spawn

[hearty thorn]

I'm trying to increase my virtue total, aside from bond upgrades and talismans, are there any other ways to do that?

[frank ermine]

when running faction tales they seem to be just turning inactive and then I cant complete them? they dossapear from my compass too

[surreal goblet]

Ranking up gear and pacts

[weary lance]

Is it just me or is the pov like looking through a lens? Are there any plans to expand that or give a normal view?

[surreal goblet]

First time ranking gear to max gives you a fixed amount of total account XP that total account level raises your attribute points

[surreal goblet]

Not sure if they are using FoV or PoV

FoV increases field with a lens like approach PoV increase is likely what youre seeking. And its currently not a thing. Just FoV adjustment

[smoky crater]

FoV it is

which yes, it just widens your field of view which ends up distorting the view like a fisheye lens

which is why anything above 70 really is... god no never please

[brazen sparrow]

i think 65 is just far back enough where things don't get all stretchy

[distant jungle]

I like 70. I'd like it more if they didn't move my camera randomly mid-combat.

This dynamic cam they have going on needs to not. My fov needs to stay at my fov.

Especially since it has an aggravating tendency to shove my character directly in the center of my screen.

I try to aim anything, like a throw, and I'm met with the middle of my own back for a view.

The fact that you cannot turn off the dynamic cam makes me somewhat upset at times.

[brazen sparrow]

I think that camera's only been my bane when you get totally swamped.. but then i'm usually more annoyed by the target selection than the camera at that point.

[copper epoch]

A few updates back these runes were added in the compendium but I don't remember there being mention of them in the notes at the time, are they actual ones that can be acquired or something that just got put in mistakenly?

[distant jungle]

That's been a bug for a while in any compendium, phantom copies.

If its shape is the exact same as something you already have, it doesn't actually exist.

[copper epoch]

That's why they confused me, they have the same shape is the Forburn rune, but they have the different weapon icons in the corner, so I wasn't sure if some fire rune just got added for those weapon types

But good to know I'm not just missing them then

[spare badge]

Those are all just phantom copies of the shield's fire rune.

The Compendium sometimes does that. Just shows phantom copies. Been an issue since it became an option.

[knotty imp]

maybe accidental placeholders for future new runes

[spare badge]

It's one of those thing that DE "fixed" a while back, but it came back after a while.

Wouldn't hurt to make sure people are bug reporting it.

[naive lagoon]

ewww, literally two feet down the river the water turns into a small waterfall and there's mist coming off it 🤮

[lunar vault]

they should remove compendium to be fair and just have that very good menu warframe has

[brazen sparrow]

it's got what plants crave...

[trim willow]

thats Odejuice

[spare badge]

That's not a waterfall, its a variation on a Moaner. The ode can't drink water. They have to drink Ichor.

[spare badge]

Compendium has a good purpose. It just needs a bit of smacking around with a wrench.

Knock the bugs out of it.

[lunar vault]

ye the annoying part rn with it apart from phantoms is you cant tell what item you dont have unless you click on them

[vagrant iris]

I WAS INNOCENT then my friend told me this while we wer playign and i cant unsee it now T-T

[rugged smelt]

so i just fought vadagar bear, and went to another location where he spawns (or the stag spawns) and there was a pool of corruption there, but no boss spawned. does this mean i can only fight the bear once a night, or does it mean there is a cooldown period, or is it a glitch?

[spare badge]

Yep. Once per night.

[visual radish]

For the vadagars best bet is finding a tree with a votive for them

[sudden plaza]

Hey Guys, can you explain what are benefits of craftmanship I want to reforge Orst 3 and Ive got one Noble and Military both have 3 modifiers and Mitary one has better modifiers than noble so better to stick with military or not?

[distant jungle]

Higher craftwork tiers have higher ranges, Military has 2-4, Noble has 3-5.

Also, each tier has +3 base damage, so Noble would be slightly stronger.

And this comes out to greater than 3, as your scaling cap is proportional to base.

Between Stock and Legendary the difference is apparently closer to 50-ish.

[sudden plaza]

Aha so rarity mostly gives you slots for modifiers?

And very slight damage boost?

[marble nimbus]

how do I give baskbulbs to alca's children?

[finite stone]

open the shop and click the sell button

[marble nimbus]

you're a lifesaver

[untold valve]

anybody else game freezing when they kill and walk towards a wardog?

[split helm]

whats the number in the top right of totems?

[sly escarp]

Collector number seemingly

[thick oxide]

is the burning sage sidequest breaking for anyone else? im stuck on the Kairness segment

[visual radish]

Seen some other people complain about that one so seems like it

[thick oxide]

yeah, i found the scroll to progress but it didnt proc the next step so i relogged to see if that would fix it. instead its now softlocked pointing me to a different spot on the map thats for a different sidequest i had already completed

[copper epoch]

If I remember right from when I had to do that part, 2 of the objecvtives have their location swapped

[violet sand]

Are runes ability for smiting or heavy weapon attack?

[visual radish]

charged by smiting, unleashed with it's own button now

[violet sand]

What’s the button?

[copper epoch]

You have to bind it yourself, or you can do Q + heavy

[violet sand]

Won’t let me double click it into the keybind

[subtle salmon]

So not every totem has a purple or gold version? seems confusing

[finite stone]

That's right, every totem is a specific rarity

[subtle salmon]

The loot goblin in me wants them all gold. Too bad we can't ascend their tier by sacrificing duplicates or something to that nature

[vocal venture]

is there anywhere to check your rep cap progress for the day?

[spare badge]

Right.

[distant jungle]

Yeah it's locked per grip type, I figure as a way of balancing them for each.

But who knows, may completely change with p15.

Given that it lists a new rune and totem version.

[sly escarp]

Did we miss a thing on a stream?

Oh the new totem and rune reworks

Okay sorry, brain was not connecting dots

[distant jungle]

Yeah, that lol.

[sly escarp]

We thought you meant them adding a new totem and rune as was like "wut"

[spare badge]

Eh. Seems more like "this system is still new-ish" growing pains.

[distant jungle]

I mean, it's obviously new, but that doesn't contradict what I said.

There'd be no reason to limit rarities across weapons just 'cus we felt like it lmao'.

And the simplest reasoning is a test at balancing them, given that rarity affects power.

[spare badge]

I'm thinking it's more of an oversight than an extremely thought out thing.

[distant jungle]

How would it be an oversight to selectively limit what weapon gets what rarity of what totem?

[sly escarp]

Grips as a whole feel a bit awkward tbh, and possibly under the crosshairs of Weapon Manuals depending on when DE gets to it.

[distant jungle]

Well yeah but that's its own problem.

Grip types are too limiting a system and the skill trees don't scale well.

I'm looking forward to a rework involving that system.

[sly escarp]

In the end, we'll see where it goes. Hopefully the system overhauls feel like a refreshing change

And if not, we have full confidence the community will let DE know.

[spare badge]

We'd need to know about the process that lead up to it. But I can see it being a "just put these as green for now, and we'll adjust them later" maybe? Since the shift from motes to totems seems to have been an out of nowhere sudden shift.

[sly escarp]

Well, we do know it was planned for a while, but many details of it shifted heavily behind the scenes

[distant jungle]

'Just put these as green for now' doesn't make sense when every weapon has its own seemingly tailored selection.

I don't think someone sat with the buttons of what gets what and just slapped them all to random settings.

I feel like that is a bit of a logical stretch.

[spare badge]

Could be that that was the last weapon type to be worked on?

[sly escarp]

Possible the new Totem system we'll get is more in line with the original Elemental Motes system we saw proposed...more likely something completely in a new direction though imo

[spare badge]

No one said it was all random. Could just be that they hit a time crunch while figuring out what should be what rarity, and thus some ended up as "just default to green if undecided by this time, so we can get the update out".

[subtle salmon]

[spare badge]

We've seen DE fix a few things that I thought had been intentionally the way they were, because they were that way before I got into the game.

And some of those are recent fixes in p14 and 14.5.

For anyone unaware, I got in during mid-P6.

[sly escarp]

Fixes always have a prio list

Ones that are entirely cosmetic and don't impact cognitive understanding are likely near the bottom

Alongside clipping errors and timing issues.

[spare badge]

🤷‍♂️

I'm not sure the why matters too much, since we usually can't pick DE's brains on such things. It does seem odd, but maybe DE has a plan. Or maybe it's an oops that they deemed not too important? Or maybe they've got planned fixes and just didn't mention it?

I'm goinna get some rest. Take care, y'all. Try not to burn the discord down without high quality video.

[vocal venture]

is there a reason to buy extra shards of pacts from akat?

like he has a duelo one right now

[woeful vapor]

Not unless you’ve sold it for the inventory space and want it back

[vocal venture]

how should I go about farming gossamer quartz?

[half talon]

Try farming glades dungeon chests or the musical stumps

[subtle salmon]

crypt was the best spot for me besides the avakot merchant while doing enclave farming

[sly escarp]

Asking for codes isn't allowed in the Discord, sorry!

[naive lagoon]

oop

[halcyon comet]

Crypt of Circade

[polar sorrel]

do tempers like this affect the damage when you throw a melee weapon

[vocal venture]

aight, I keep hearing this but I only get like 3 per run, am I missing something or is it just gosh darn awful to farm these

[halcyon comet]

Every time you open a sarcofagus you should get 1 minimum.

Go look up a guide on Crypt of Circade puzzles just to make sure you arent missing any secret rooms n stuff

[halcyon comet]

Just playing the game normally you should get tons of it. Like I think I'm at 50/60 after a couple of days of just running around levelling stuff.

Crypt is the fastest way to get it though if you need some quickly to craft something

[vocal venture]

I've opened multiple sarcophogus's and gotten nothing.

sometimes they're just empty, not even drac.

[halcyon comet]

oh what the heck. unless something has changed. I dont think I have ever opened one and not gotten some drac and at least one GQ

In that case I'd say maybe Dermak Undercity and Glades of Andurin chests

[dusty hare]

I love my orst

[slow minnow]

I think my only (yeah only) gripe with the game at this point is the melee animations looking as "slidey" as they are. I enjoy how punchy and impactful wf's animations are compared to the wishy washy melee that's currently here. Hopefully de can make that look a little more punchy and still keep the slower combat style

[distant jungle]

The player and enemies do lunge like they're on a slip-and-slide sometimes, yeah.

Especially with spacing being such a big part of combat, and the first thing I'd tell someone to learn.

Whenever a lot of space is closed, it's via skating along the ground awkwardly.

Throws me off when an enemy does it to me occasionally cus it's hard to judge their range when they slide like that.

Makes their reach disconnected from their animations.

[calm sinew]

You know, I just got access to the game today, and I have been absolutely loving it!
But I do really feel the game should have some sort of parkour system, similar to assassins creed.
Manteling, and running along fences, and perhaps a double jump with specific classes?

But damn, the weight of your attacks and the flow of the game feel so damn good!

[distant jungle]

There will eventually be a basic mantling system so you can vault over stuff and haul yourself up onto ledges.

[halcyon comet]

it very much reminds me of a Rocksteady Batman game with the combat sometimes.

Enemies in a queue to attack you and just slide in from wherever they were standing to make their attack

which dont get me wrong, can make for some incredibly fun melee combat. I think (and hope) in soulframe's case once there are a larger variety of enemies with different kinds of attacks it wont have that disconnected feel

[calm sinew]

oh sick! The game just feels like it would have it but doesn't, so glad it willl

[sudden plaza]

Hi guys to be clear craftmanship type only gives chance of how many tempers item might have?

No damage boost?

At least not significant and can be igonred

[marble nimbus]

is the crypt of the circade the tileset of red herrings or are there really puzzles in every single room?

[distant jungle]

It also adds base damage per tier, +3 per tier, to a max of +12 for Legendary. This isn't insignificant because max scaling is proportionate to base damage, so the damage difference at the end is closer to 50.

And 50 damage means a heck of a lot.

[sudden plaza]

Aha, okay thanks it goes Stock-Military-Officer-Noble-Legendary correct?

[distant jungle]

Stock, Military, Officer, Noble, Sovereign, Legendary.

So that'd actually be +15 at base, my bad.

Legendary compared to Stock.

[sudden plaza]

Okay thanks, than Ill continue grind better Orst Ive got noble will try at least Sovereign to get

[turbid rivet]

do new armor reduction procs override every older procs? or does the highest reduction remain?

[vagrant kayak]

Not in the hallways or the little end tiles (the ones with the T shape room with tombs at each side and in the middle) but most of the room tiles have a puzzle element

[marble nimbus]

other than the main puzzle of the crypt, I keep seeing like the idea of a puzzle that leads nowhere each room and I'm so confused

like the long rage hittable thing in the first room that moves the lil platforms that goes nowhere, or the plate connected to the statue in a room that does nothing, or the room with the 2 pressure plates that do nothing

[vagrant kayak]

The one in the opening room gives you access to the tomb up top there, it's not always lootable though. The statue that moves can be a connector to more rooms depending on tile generation. Not sure what you mean by room with two pressure plates but often those will open a wall panel leading to a chest

[marble nimbus]

oh the top tomb can be lootable??? ok that explains a lot it hasn't been in my 5 runs of the crypt, there is a room with a pressure plate in the middle and another under some rubble that you can press

[vagrant kayak]

That one might be one of the ones that can be a connection to another tile if it's the one I'm thinking of, I've not been in the crypt in a while, a few recent runs to fill out my journal

[hot grove]

I did "the waste bear" quest in my friend's world and didn't get the pact fragment. Is it expected? Do I need to do it in my world as well?

[ripe bone]

the damage is not base damage though, it is equivalent to level up damage which is flat, making this actually just a +15 difference

or old joinery damage type

[frail creek]

Hello guys, is there a way to change difficulty ? I'm playing with a friend and we almost one shot everything

[woeful mantle]

Fables in Coop are buggy sometimes. Should drop if you do it again in your own instance.

[woeful mantle]

you can brew a cogah potion.
Always drink it once both of you are in a group already.
This makes the game harder. Enemies scale higher, you get less heal potions and so on.
You have to revive each other instead of the normal respawn.
Once both of you die, or abandon a boss it ends.

[frail creek]

Oh okay thanks, we just played for 2 hours, I don't think we unlocked that yet. We will grind !

[woeful mantle]

Ah okay.
Then it will take a while.
The enemies are also harder the more you progress to the North/East of the map.
But it's worth doing the Story Quests as they unlock things

[fallen marten]

hey guys whats the meaning of these numbers please

• number and the next to them

[agile horizon]

total on the right and how much you're getting from your virtues in parentheses

[hexed field]

So... motes can be way farther from a location than I thought. pictured is my player loc and the location that mote was for...

good to know I guess.

[strong hatch]

Hey is game playable ?

[hexed field]

Nah, we're all just hallucinating. 😛

[trim willow]

this is just mass psychosis

[hearty jetty]

it might be old news by now, but you can go and get the final world tree on the island now that you can swim

there is nothing on the island but it's pretty cool that you can get there now

[vagrant kayak]

Yes, Soulframe is currently playable in closed pre-alpha, you can get access by signing up and getting invited, buying a Founder pack or using a friend code or Twitch drop, details in the pinned message in this channel

This Friday there will be a devstream with access codes as Twitch Drops as well

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1506672302279102605

[hexed field]

just don't beg for a code please, while the game is playable it's mostly collecting weapons and armor past about the 10h mark or so, possibly less depending on how fast you do the story content that does exist.

Game is still very much in it's infancy as far as story goes.

[echo heron]

how many agari do i have to slime in order to complete orlick's quest

[smoky crater]

5 iirc

should say when you're out in the world with the quest being tracked and you summon le borb

[echo heron]

make them motes more visible 🥀

[fallen marten]

Sorry i dont understand because some orher item dont have the (+xx)

[agile horizon]

since it's the value that you're getting from the virtues, what could that imply?

[gentle shale]

Yep, Kairness is infamous for that

They should really reduce the spawning area there, it is completely disproportionate

Iirc, I had some spawn outside of the area covered by your screenshot back when I was uncovering location names

Some to the north, some to the west, and at least one to the east around the one you found

[frank creek]

So i have a quick question, how do I craft weapons?

[knotty moon]

Unlocked as a part of The Steelsinger Fable.

[alpine crest]

how bad is it if i cannot get the virtue requirement for a weapon? i've tried to rebalance for spirit twice, but it doesn't work

[frank creek]

Thank you so much

[knotty moon]

You will get no scaling on it which will severely limit its usefulness, you can try to improve the Spirit Arts in the pacts, or get the +6 Spirit Talisman from the Alca's Children faction.

[alpine crest]

ohhh I did start a new pact today, so that might be it lol

[fleet axle]

I kinda stopped playing because a lot of the bosses bugged for me and not being able to complete armor sets has been very frustrating. Wazzard and the bear have the most issues, the others don’t even really spawn for me.

[surreal cipher]

Greetings everyone. Is the Prelude still playable?

[knotty moon]

Yes, there are no plan to discontinue the Alpha, and saves will transition on release.

[surreal cipher]

Okay, thank u. R the servers online right now?

[smoky crater]

Always on

[knotty moon]

Yes, it is a live service game.

Similar structure to Warframe.

[smoky crater]

Tho you dont play on DE's servers. You host the sessions on your own device

[surreal cipher]

Hm, the launcher says non stop checking for new Updates. Nothing happens, thats why im asking. Thank u again.

[knotty moon]

Check if it is blocked by the firewall.

[surreal cipher]

I played a couple hours theese days, everything was fine. Well, i`ll figure it out. I guess.

[knotty moon]

If all else fails you can contact support: https://support.soulframe.com/hc/en-us

[hexed field]

As of now, only 2 sacred shimmer is needed? One for each other faction talisman?

[finite stone]

You need 5 in total, there's a list on the https://wiki.avakot.org/Sacred_Shimmer page (of course you can ignore one of these as you get given one talisman at the start of the game):

[hexed field]

Ah, Cogah. I get my butt handed to me during normal gameplay enough to know that ain't for me... I need stagger immunity before I even attempt it, been stunlocked so many times by two enemies perfectly staggering their attacks it's not even funny when it happens any more 'cause I literally can't do anything but die.

Between that and enemy targeting as well as the ability of certain shield users to block everything and suffer no consequences... yeah. nah.

[whole raptor]

Hey, I wanted to ask something about the current state of Soulframe. Since I’m playing through the early access/prelude phase, I’m a bit unsure if the game is still heavily unfinished or if there just isn’t much of a clear gameplay goal yet. Right now it feels more like exploration/testing than progression. Is that intentional for this stage of development, or are bigger gameplay systems and objectives planned later on?

[hexed field]

I'd consider Soulframe at this stage core complete. some systems are going to change, but gameplay loop I feel will largely remain the same. The addition of swimming I think may have been the last big thing that was missing.

[finite stone]

That's totally intentional, the game is still in pre-alpha 😄 bigger stuff is planned later on, you may wish to tune into the devstream to hear about their plans for the next update; or tune into TennoCon to hear about plans for the future

[hexed field]

aight. L4 Rose, which is next Sproutfolk or Mora? can't do both I don't have the standing for the mats

[whole raptor]

I hope so, and even at this stage the game still manages to make itself enjoyable. I’ve been following all the updates closely. Thanks for the response.

[clear nimbus]

Do i have to have the talisman to do the bastions of rebellion quest? Im in the silent rose enclave but it doesnt mark it

[finite stone]

Congrats! I'd go Kith first, so you open up access to the Mora's Arm pact (since you can already get Tempest at R5 Rose)

[hexed field]

As far as boosting faction rep goes, is it just absolutely stuffing bounties mainly?

[regal shadow]

which one is that? can you take a screenshot?

[finite stone]

Yeah specifically T3 NE bounties, fast dungeon ones are good, and ofc selling your favours before you reach the inventory cap of 50

[hexed field]

Bet.

[regal shadow]

keep in mind tho there's a 16k rep daily limit, but the favors ignore the limit

[whole raptor]

And one more thing, is there currently any place or system where I can spend the Draks I’ve been collecting?

[hexed field]

^ avakot

[finite stone]

Two main places:

• Crafting, where each craft costs dracs
• Avakot's Gots, where you wanna buy rare mats when they come into rotation

[regal shadow]

you should be able to enter it, you might have to come back at night tho and kill the ghost at the entrance first

[hexed field]

no need to farm as much when avakot's gots

[clear nimbus]

Is that for both of them?

[whole raptor]

I understand, you've really been very helpful thank you The things you’ve told me are helping me learn and understand the game better

[regal shadow]

yes, for silent rose iirc you'll get a short quest/bounty you need to do after speaking with npc at the entrance

[hexed field]

My thing right now is that everything's slow (mostly rep, levelling weapons and pacts), but that's how it is. Gonna have to go around the map killing all the open world bosses at some point too I guess to gather those frags

[clear nimbus]

I did that with the silent rose one so i can go in and out freely now but still nothing. And ill go check for the other

[hexed field]

That's the Gloamin' thing.

go here get booze bring back

[dire python]

every faction requires you to do a short task before you can enter them I believe

honestly Kith is the most annoying one because you might have to just wait

[hexed field]

Children is a puzzle, Kith is a riddle

[regal shadow]

doesnt mark it as finished even when you enter? hm, maybe relog would help? not sure rly

[dire python]

riddle + violence

[hexed field]

well, the answer to the riddle is violence

so...

[dire python]

patience (in some cases) and violence

imagine if you had to fight the spirit every time you went back to Kith

[hexed field]

Annoying, but free XP so

[clear nimbus]

Still nothing

[dire python]

also mental note: the Stultin is objectively worse than the Falx

[subtle salmon]

Quartz comes in small numbers. Kind of like brass. If you're farming enclave standing around the northeastern part of the map. I get the avakots got merchant in a lot of the 3* quests who often has 10 for you (Shop refreshes every 3 hours or so. It will show you). Pay your respects shows up for crypt. And any time you can get a treasure chest with the blue marking on the top, during a quest: You can get quite a few through those.

Takes time. But easier than moranite or sappheline. And at least can be done while doing the long enclave grinding between the current 3.

[marble nimbus]

can someone tell me how combat arts levels work? my magick is stuck at level 9 and my short blade is stuck at 4

[vocal venture]

You can get 3 moranite in like 30 seconds per run across one of the beaches

[sly escarp]

You get combat arts by levelling up weapons of that type

A given weapon will cap its level at 30, at which point you should have 5 arts points from that weapon. Crafting and levelling multiple of the same weapon will not give you an additional 5, only crafting a new weapon entirely

[marble nimbus]

ah gotcha thanks, is there a max point amount?

[sly escarp]

Based on the amount of weapons of that type, so it varies.

Shields for example only have 3 weapons, so they currently max at 15

[subtle salmon]

3rd day in a row getting 1 fast travel seed.
-. -
P15 cannot get here quick enough

[sly escarp]

Long blades have 14, so they max at 70 points. Though, there's only 30 some points worth of arts upgrades so you'll go over the amount you need fairly easily there

[marble nimbus]

oooh i see i see, love the system, any tips on leveling up weapons decently quickly?

[sly escarp]

Out of curiosity, how will p15 help with that issue?

[sly escarp]

Higher level enemies give more xp, and you have to actually use/wield the weapon to level it so don't neglect your sidearm. Personally advise running Faction Tales, not the fastest levelling method but it's solid and lets you farm faction rep at the same time.

[smoky crater]

They did mention some fast travel related stuff in the "coming with p15" thingy

[marble nimbus]

I see the tales on my map but I'm unsure how to actually do them

[sly escarp]

Yeah but only in a very broad sense iirc?

[sly escarp]

Faction tales can be started from world trees

You can track them in journal and follow through them like a mini bounty quest

[smoky crater]

Ye in the way that using a wevetseed on a world tree would unlock that world tree for free fast traveling for the session or something like that

[marble nimbus]

tysm for the healp

[sly escarp]

Ah, that makes some sense. People still probably will want more though, relogging is fairly frequent atm.

[subtle salmon]

Any sort of QOL with it will help. The bar is low.
x_X

[sly escarp]

Tbh I just consider fast travel a temporary band aid that I kinda hope will be removed once mounts drop

So investing in more changes to it just doesn't seem worth it, but hey, good to see they're doing something with it.

[smoky crater]

Just dont relog that often then smh

[smoky crater]

Tru

[subtle salmon]

Wth is up with maestro armor farming? Sometimes I only get a rune. Sometimes just an assortment of crafting material? Gotten the helm is all in like 10 fights.

[sly escarp]

Random drops

Sounds like you're on a bad luck stream

[hexed field]

"...have to actually use/wield the weapon to level..."
Incorrect. My dagger has largely ridden sidecar and it still levels, albeit at a vastly reduced rate.

I know this because I don't use it nearly enough for it to be almost fully leveled, and also getting notifications when it does.

Same thing with Odiac. They're neat, but not entirely useful except as a directed balloon popper. I suppose If I had reflect.exe from the casting weapon arts it'd be useful for mirifuir.

[sly escarp]

There are some sourced of universal XP, and playing in multiplayer can also impact XP for unused weapons

However, when it comes to kills, including smite kills and mockery kills, only the weapon in hand will get XP

[hexed field]

I don't do multi-player, mostly because the people I gave my codes to lost interest.

[sly escarp]

Things like Moaners count as Objective XP which is evenly split. Pretty sure Totem charming does as well.

Those may be where that XP is coming from for your sidearm.

[teal venture]

Does the Virtue passives on pacts matter on the time of day? The wording is wonky to the point I am just unsure. I don't want to waste pact point on something that is time dependant...

[sly escarp]

They just add virtue points

[hexed field]

Ive levelled them specifically while killing things

[sly escarp]

There is no Time related restriction

[sly escarp]

That...doesn't seem like it should be possible unless there was an undocumented XP change.

[hexed field]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sly escarp]

The last patch note on the matter definitely said "only pact and in hand weapon on kills"

Was even a whole issue with Mockeries as a result because they used to only give Pact XP

Very strange.

[hexed field]

That could be the way it is and it could've been from objective (I love auto-incorrect, please put more words in my mouth) completions and charms for the most part, but even then I don't think I gained enough XP from those.

[minor cave]

Any tips for beating the duelo pact?

[sly escarp]

High courage

It gives lots of health and with your weapon being set and no abilities it's very valuable to have more life

[knotty imp]

Also very easy to exploit her with constant backstabs by spam dodging

[hexed field]

Good luck with the final one of those.

[minor cave]

Thank you! I'll give that try.

[minor cave]

I was able to get a few of those in.

[finite stone]

I probably make this joke too often, but genuinely, just kick her repeatedly

the AI isn't smart enough to fight back against you - if you're struggling, you can just kick her until she falls into the ocean and dies

[noble topaz]

hi chat I'm trying to farm the mendicant king but sometimes he just sits there even after i rang the bell

[dire python]

I deep bow to her and fight her fairly out of honor

And entertainment

[finite stone]

You're a more righteous duelo-ist than I am 😋

[dire python]

Happens sometimes.

Are you doing a Votive involving the Mendicant King?

[noble topaz]

yes

[dire python]

OK, double check to make sure you didn’t miss an objective

If you’re not at the final stage, King won’t get up and fight

Also happens if you abandoned the Votive

[noble topaz]

it should be correct

[supple sorrel]

Wow really surprised on how good this game is.

[dire python]

Hmmmmmmmmm

Relog?

[supple sorrel]

This game will be huge when it launches

[noble topaz]

would that reset the votive?

[dire python]

Ehhhh

Sometimes it does

[minor cave]

I'm tempted to give that a shot just for laughs 🤣

[dire python]

Sometimes it doesn’t

[sly escarp]

It will change greatly before it does, but yeah the bones are coming along nicely

Lots of upcoming core system changes and gameplay overhauls

Refining and improving as we go.

[noble topaz]

oh yeah it just killed my mission rip

[sly escarp]

Pre alphas are awesome

[dire python]

Ah well try again

[hexed field]

so sinecure officer fireballs don't have to touch you to catch you on fire, 'cause i just dodged away between two of 'em as they landed and guess what, I still caught fire.

[noble topaz]

its a different set of mission now unlucky

[hexed field]

what is wrong with the AOE in this game?

[noble topaz]

it mightve bugged out because i killed him not too long ago and the votive forced spawned him

[supple sorrel]

So I just noticed the shop in nightrealm are all of those classes they put in the shop earnable in game ? Like with a long grind ? Concerned on the ptw aspect.

[noble topaz]

yes, its pay to fast forward, you can get it by just playing

[supple sorrel]

Oh okay good im okay with that then

[hexed field]

is only P2W if they add PvP, and judging by Conclave straight not existing I don't think they'll do that here.

[supple sorrel]

No pvp at all ?

Shame would be cool to 1v1 a buddy lol

But im digging it, coming from a long time elden ring player im really enjoying the movement, no stamina bar , love how I can spam spells without having a bar to fill up to replenish magic.

[finite stone]

There is PvP Regatta (the board game) but they have no plans for PvP combat at this time

[supple sorrel]

Okay all good. Im digging it regardless. Thank you for letting me know

[drowsy crypt]

Conclave PTSD intensifies

[noble topaz]

if they follow the same formula as warframe the only thing that would actually cost real money would be skins

[supple sorrel]

Im good with that. But in the shop you can buy gear with real money so idk

[finite stone]

And Inventory slots, those are the big thing everyone needs

[noble topaz]

well

im going to assume that trading would be a huge thing

so im not too worried about slots

[supple sorrel]

Trading economy?

So will people be in my world running around or is it only people I invite ?

[finite stone]

for sure, they seemed pretty excited to talk about it in the next devstream too!

[supple sorrel]

Apologies my only other game like this was elden ring

[drowsy crypt]

You're solo until you invite someone

[hexed field]

Aight I have a guaranteed win strat against vadagar stag now. 3x orengal wolves and a bow with which to rain arrows upon it's dummy thick hide. dodge dodge dodge the attacks, because it can one hit almost kill you still.

[supple sorrel]

Thanks

[drowsy crypt]

And you can see other people at enclaves and trees

[supple sorrel]

Oh okay so like elden ring then

See like ghosts of them and such

[finite stone]

Sort of, yes you see the ghosts of them but only in the proximity of the world trees

[supple sorrel]

I have yet to take damage yet does the game get harder ?

[finite stone]

And then you see their real bodies in social hubs, as if you saw other tarnished in the roundtable hold

[noble topaz]

theres a potion that increases difficulty until you die 👍

[supple sorrel]

This mage class is a little o.p the enemies cant even get close to me

[drowsy crypt]

Mine is Call of Ancients>Fellust>Tree fell until dead.

Rinse and repeat

[finite stone]

The game doesn't get much harder, it's sadly suffered a bit of player powercreep in the past 2 updates. There is a temporary hard mode called Cogah that uses a potion you craft, it lasts just for one play session, but it doesn't really increase the difficulty of their AI just the enemy levels and I think spawns too

[hexed field]

Huh? Wut? and "bonk with tree"?

[noble topaz]

so im assuming that mendicant king just doesnt let you fight it regardless of if he spawned or not, and you have to wait the full 30 minutes cooldown

[hexed field]

shoot the bell above the throne

[drowsy crypt]

Tree fell is the Heavy Weapon Cogah rune.

[noble topaz]

yes and it doesnt work

[hexed field]

is mendi there?

[noble topaz]

ive been farming him for 10 hours and he "bugged out" twice

[hexed field]

is yes should wake

[noble topaz]

yes he is there refer to my previous message

[hexed field]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[supple sorrel]

Im used to elden ring punishment. Its nice to be o.p off rip but I haven't even been hit yet

[hexed field]

been hitting him too hard he don't want to play no more

[drowsy crypt]

He's on his lunch break

[noble topaz]

hes there because i forced spawned him by doing a votive

but it doesnt let you fight

[supple sorrel]

This image quality is really good lol

[finite stone]

Completely agreed, and same here! They did mention Cogah might get an update in P15, so I'm hoping it might become more of a general hard mode for players like us? But really I just want the game to start challenging us a little bit like it used to in P12 and earlier. I killed Nimrod (who's meant to be a boss fight) in 5 seconds yesterday 😔

[hexed field]

.>

wow... leave some for the rest of us noobs😛

[supple sorrel]

Yeah it needs a little bit of a challenge. They could just up the h.p off all the enemies and add some more hordes

[finite stone]

Idk about hordes because that's more of a warframe thing - DE have said they want Soulframe to be more about dueling your individual enemies (honestly similar to elden or sekiro in that sense where every enemy is an actual threat to the player) - but in the last update the enemy density has increased a bit

I personally hope against hordes because they're not fun or interesting compared to being able to focus on a cool dangerous enemy and learn their moveset/timings

But DE are currently taking it in the direction of hordes, so we'll have to see what they choose at the end of the day

[noble topaz]

yeah so idk about adding more hordes since its really annoying as a melee player, but i do think that the game is a little easy
could just add more movesets to enemies etc.

i doubt it would happen soon? since im pretty sure they have a lot of other things to polish up

[supple sorrel]

Well then they would definitely need to up the difficulty then cause Every enemy is fight goes down with out touching me

[hexed field]

expected rivt-2 to be a short sword, not a split sword O.O

[finite stone]

yeah agreed, more movesets, smarter and faster AI etc. but you're right it's probably not a priority right now with the other big system reworks and stuff

[supple sorrel]

Might have to switch to hero class because the mage class is a little o.p

[drowsy crypt]

Yeah it's a bit easy. Medicant king in Cogah is dead before his standing animation is done when I use heavy weapons

[supple sorrel]

Yeah hopefully they crank it up a bit

[noble topaz]

mendicant king would be dead right now if only he would stand up grrr

[supple sorrel]

Lol did you break the game ?

[knotty imp]

https://tenor.com/view/virgil-gif-10603458073526680255

[noble topaz]

Probably internal cooldown since I force spawned him

[hexed field]

imma need shields to be shields not invulnerability.

[supple sorrel]

Dont know if he is pet like cute or hideous

[normal sail]

he makes for a good stew

[visual radish]

Psa do not accept avakot's loans, they go for the knees when you owe them

[supple sorrel]

Oh wow you ate him ?

[knotty imp]

that`s funny because they are so perfectly puntable

kick em right into the ode'n sludge pools

[hexed field]

I do beleve rose votives arent meant o go into the NE, and will lead you back to the starting area if encountered there. thisll be the third on I've taken that has led me away from the higher level areas...

measn I can't mulitask, and go for faction rep plus XP

[drowsy crypt]

Man all I'm missing from Cogah runes now is the fly blades ones

Is it even worth the effort

[knotty imp]

picktrix is pretty neat

[subtle salmon]

Pretty happy with this fashion frame

[final rock]

nice

[jaunty fox]

where should i farm gossamer quartz at

[drowsy crypt]

Crypt

[jaunty fox]

location @drowsy crypt

[drowsy crypt]

North East.

You'll also need keys to get in lol.

[smoky crater]

Or middle of the map
Or southeast-ish

[jaunty fox]

can anyone drop a screen shot

i dont even know where to look for a crypt

i have keys

[subtle salmon]

Do we know if the ravgot wyrm boss drop table is getting love with p15? Idk how many more knettles I can take... 😑

[subtle salmon]

If you farm enclave standings, a 2* quest called pay your respects will guide you

[sly escarp]

Look for a graveyard

One of the center tombs will have a sarcophagus you can open with a key to enter the crypts

Do know, you cannot respawn inside the crypts. If you die, you will be respawning outside the dungeon and will need a new key

[tacit panther]

the new meta

[alpine plinth]

2 questions:

• is this game soulslike?
• are there like any restrictions in co-op?

[drowsy crypt]

-No not really, combat wise maybe but difficulty wise no
-what do you mean by restrictions

[alpine plinth]

Restrictions in like things only the "host" or "leader" can do

[drowsy crypt]

From what I've seen, no. But I've only ever done coop for like endless/miri/Cogah/bear/stag

[alpine plinth]

are these like dungeons? we just got into the game so starting the campaign or smth

[drowsy crypt]

Yeah and some open world bosses

[regal shadow]

only thing i wouldnt recommend doing in co op are quests/fables, progression for those is in most cases tracked only for the host

everything else works more or less fine

[undone prawn]

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[plucky pebble]

i don't think you can replay fables in coop. i tried selecting replay waste bear but it just said 'do you want to leave your party '.

[sly escarp]

Players can certainly join after the fable is started at least, but it's still very much not reccommended

[plucky pebble]

Is it okay to ask why is it not recommended? I wanted to replay it with friends and don't really see why it's bad to experience it together with them.

[sly escarp]

It tends to only progress the quest for the host, so after the party disbands the clients will have to replay most of the quest.

It also can lead to some very frustrating bugs that can stop you from being able to continue until your relog sometimes.

[plucky pebble]

I see, so if it is a progression rewards issue. if we all don't care about getting the rewards but want to play it together that would be alright wouldn't it? It's not like we're cheating we just want to play together?

[sly escarp]

Oh, no, it's totally not cheating or anything!

[distant jungle]

This is just always true, MP is not seamless.

And honestly I prefer it this way.

[sly escarp]

The game just gets super buggy when multiplayer and fables intersect

[plucky pebble]

ah ok!

[sly escarp]

It's not recommended just because it's a pain to try and get through it sometimes.

[plucky pebble]

i see!! okay then i hope they fix it i love playing this game with my friends

[sly escarp]

You're more than welcome to do so, just know it may break or some players may get left behind a bit.

[plucky pebble]

ok!! thanks for letting me know

[sly escarp]

And yeah, same! Multiplayer fables can be fun when they work.

[plucky pebble]

I hope they scale up the bosses* one day if we multiplayer the fables 😁😁

[distant jungle]

I like everyone's world being their own world with its own progression, keeps things simple.

I don't think WF or SF are designed around seamless multiplayer for story content.

And trying to make it seamless comes with its own host of potential bugs.

[subtle salmon]

Nice lol. I like using the ode tempest grenade to make enemies jump off the top of the organ since they love to spawn up there after I destroy it

[drowsy crypt]

I just use the organ itself to zap them lol

~~sometimes hitting myself in the process ~~

[jade otter]

I have nuked myself a few more times than I would like to admit.

Especially since the damn Wazzard pants took forever to drop.

[subtle salmon]

Yeah, wazzards set is rough. I get so many of the weapon fragments instead. But seems way more promising than the ridiculius ravgot wyrm not giving a nettle fragment... anything but that.. id be happy.

[fathom hound]

Wtf is this lith system 🙁

[sly escarp]

Are you asking for an explanation of how it works functionally?

Or expressing confusion over its intent?

[fathom hound]

no sorry just its shit 😄

[sly escarp]

Ah.

[fathom hound]

hopefully preludes 16 it gets removed or reworked

[sly escarp]

We're getting changes in p15 it sounds like

[jade otter]

By the way, I only have 1 last weapon before I have 100% of the weapons but the damn thing is being a real pain. That being Tessard, worst part being I have enough shards to craft multiple extra Nurash and Stultin. So far my loop is to hit the Thrice-Bound spot and then loop through all the ruins to the east, circling up to the crypt near the seige. Then looping back down to the Thrice-Bound spot.

Does anyone know of a spot with a good density on these woody bastards?

On the topic of the liths. Yeah it isn't quite there, but they acknowledged it in the recent Envoy hour so hopefully we will get some word on changes to it on Friday with the stream.

[final rock]

I personally had luck w the glades dungeon

[subtle salmon]

Speaking of ravgot. is the ravgot ruins the only dungeon with its own motes to collect?

[jade otter]

I'll check those out and see if they bare fruit. After that weapon and a couple pieces of armor I will be at 100% of everything obtained.

[final rock]

gl. personally I just have the Seathorn missing.

[half talon]

For now

[final rock]

iirc the other dungeons have/had spots w the gibberish text, but I've never seen motes spawn for em.

[surreal goblet]

One update dungions got location names added but they fell off i believe in a later update

Like zap said it didnt have motes around the dungion though

[sudden plaza]

Hi Guys on hard mode is there Orst 3 on higher rarity or doesnt matter on which difficulty to farm?

[surreal goblet]

Im told level matters but its an insane scale for mattering, like lvl 80-120

Most people say it takes a solid group running cogah for a minute for that scaling

[finite stone]

They are back!

[surreal goblet]

Yeah I believe they where completed automatically

I remember having to manually translate them to learn the names

[subtle salmon]

Just what I needed. a 10th falx fragment. organs are the best 🙃

[drowsy crypt]

Birdies bog my arch nemesis. The motes there were such a pain

[jade otter]

I ended up at 25 fragments by the time my Wazzard set was done.

Also had a ton of Avex fragments.

I am curious, what pacts are folks running? I've been having a ton of fun with Duelo because I like bringing a gun to a sword fight.

[drowsy crypt]

Teth for Cogah. Oscelda or Orengall for over world

Tethren is just very efficient for boss killing

[echo wyvern]

im so annoyed. tried going for the circada armor but the first tiem i tried doing it with my thrown weapon wich seeme dto hit the gems twice making that attempt void. now i got myself a secondary and this gemstone has like an invisible corcefield around it. i cant hit it with my primary or secondary for some reason eventho i did the sequence correctly

[keen carbon]

I was messing around and found this, lets just say that the pt-br translation need some changes

[echo wyvern]

i figured out that rump thump CAN hit this gem but i still cant open the door after doing the entire sequence correctly :/

uh im stuck in the tomb now the entrance door wont let me out?

[wide laurel]

can someone link me to a map of a good ORST run for solo/non-cogah?

[finite stone]

Credit to Lucel for this awesome map

[wide laurel]

ty ❤️

What are some good pacts for running this route quicky?

[finite stone]

Probably Orengall for the movespeed ngl, it'll make a bigger difference than anything combat related

once we get mounts things will change 😛

[wide laurel]

is that confirmed??? Ive been out of the loop since preludes 9

[finite stone]

do you mean mounts in general? if so, they were confirmed back at Tennocon 2023

[drowsy crypt]

Not a bad route for leveling low level weapons too, come to think of it

[hexed field]

I've just had quite possibly the best Dermak undercity run ever. Three officers, all of which dropped their weapons

🔥

That was highly productive

[topaz dagger]

H

Can someone explain to me why I am doing a quest that I stumble upon a NPC that is specific to this quest and it says I do not have the talisman for this quest... wouldn't you think this talisman would have been an objective befor starting or even after starting said questline???

[hexed field]

Must be related to one of the factions other than the one you gain access to at the beginning. You'll need to craft the respective taslisman

[sly escarp]

You probably ran into the wrong faction enclave

By chance were you running the quest An Invitation in Multiplayer?

[hexed field]

I'm collecting crypt keys, apparently.

Are those used in Circade crypts or something?

[topaz dagger]

It was Lady Deora and she required a talisman but this is after I went and did half the quest lol

[sly escarp]

What was your starting pact

[hexed field]

Maybe I did have to craft Rose's Bodkin...

[sly escarp]

They're used to enter the crypts

[hexed field]

I picked Sirin

[sly escarp]

Not if you picked Sirin

[topaz dagger]

Oscelda

[sly escarp]

Then yeah you're at the wrong faction

Oscelda starts with Alcas Children as their first faction

[topaz dagger]

I guess I am just confused on why its that simple to just run into that or even begin a quest that requires it knowing I am in a different pact

[sly escarp]

Guessing you might have been in multiplayer? That or you stumbled across the Silent Rose enclave by accident

[sly escarp]

Because the core quest, an Invitation, guides you to the correct starting faction

The quest you did likely was the one to simply unlock the Silent Rose hideout.

Actually interacting with Deora requires switching factions entirely.

[topaz dagger]

I have two quests in my journal "A grand fable" and The Shewold Snared

[hexed field]

Shewolf is Orengal

[sly escarp]

Did you not already go to the Alcas Children enclave then?

[topaz dagger]

I did in the start

[sly escarp]

Then yeah that was the game introducing you to the Faction system

[topaz dagger]

Okay

[sly escarp]

You just stumbled upon the quest to unlock the door to another faction after.

[topaz dagger]

Ahhhh

Makes sense now

Last question... Runes. I have found one rune in about 5 hours of gameplay... is there an easier way to find a rune or is it RNG

?

[hexed field]

RNG. Loot like your life depends on it

[sly escarp]

Drop from chests (different location chests can drop different ones) and from Sieges and Agari

All sources are RNG chance drops

[topaz dagger]

How does one access mailbox

[sly escarp]

One doesn't because there isn't one

Guessing you got the "1 unread mail" notif?

[topaz dagger]

So everyone has a message

[sly escarp]

It's just a bug

Legacy code from WF doing stuff it's not meant to

[hexed field]

BTW the Orst-IIIs are free for the taking. I have 17 Orst-IIIs

[topaz dagger]

So I am assuming main quest is A Grand Fable?

[hexed field]

I think so? That one covers Orelick, IIRC.

[sly escarp]

Not exactly. It's a tutorial questline related to Orlick

Basically, it's Orlick's questline

[topaz dagger]

Okay then I am a bit lost in that case where is the main quest line?

[sly escarp]

It's kinda just the Omen Beast quests and then any Ancestor quests

[hexed field]

Can I pull anything unique off the orst-IIIs before selling/scrapping the unwanted ones?

[sly escarp]

Would say...Rise Envoy, The Last Pensieve, the Torment Stag, A Shewolf Snared, Brewer of Hues, the Steelsinger, The Waste Bear, and the Wreck of Maestra Carmo are probably the ones that impact the main storyline?

The Grand Fable is also pretty important but is more there to help tesch game mechanics and learn Orlick lore.

[hexed field]

Do Steelsinger as early as possible, that's your foundery.

[sly escarp]

So, important side story.

But yeah, there is no one main quest, and you won't be guided through in a set order.

[topaz dagger]

I am about as lost a a poor boy dropped off in The Hamptons.

[sly escarp]

You just kinda stumble across quests as you explore and do them in the order you like. Anything too important order wise will have prerequisites to help make sure you have the needed info.

All in all, it's maybe a few hours to do all the major quests anyways.

[topaz dagger]

So what you are saying its just nit linear ?

not

[half talon]

One of the earliest things that DE Steve mentioned was that you can do things out of order. You can wander away from the main quests, go collect interesting items and maybe find that those items are useful for the mission you’re on (I think the example was a golden apple or something)

Some fables have prerequisites but for for the most part you just kind of…find them along the way.

[sly escarp]

A few things have prerequisites (like Verminia must be found to start the Waste Bear as she is a focal character there)

But for the most part, the story is very freeform

[languid tiger]

What are these weapons again with the special mark on them

[undone minnow]

you have to be joking

[neat citrus]

LMAO

[languid tiger]

Ahh its just a visual effect, its only officer though

[neat citrus]

An insanely rare visual effect yeah

😭😭😭😭

[subtle salmon]

🫤

[undone prawn]

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[thick vapor]

Hey new to the game! Question! When I find a new location and text appears on screen, does it suppose to remain in gibberish or is it supposed to eventually translate into English? Coz if the former i think I've encountered a bug.

Also my sparrow keeps getting stuck on geometry when indoors.

But otherwise im having a good time!

[languid hill]

you need to find motes around the area, they look like gold clouds

when the area name shows, the number of soots with eyes that appears above the name shows the number of motes you can collect around the area

if you see them use spectral sight + light attack to collect them

[hexed field]

I wish I could click on the motes that appear in my journal sometimes and make them squeak...

[half talon]

Fun fact, you can click them... just not necessarily make them squeak

[hexed field]

:3

[half talon]

Are we going to have to have a patchnote about not bullying the motes?

[hexed field]

[dire python]

isn't it spectral sight + light attack

[languid hill]

my bad, got my controls mixed up

[upbeat mauve]

is 5 the max? (if not how to i lvl it up more?)

[languid hill]

it's 5 per weapon

[upbeat mauve]

oh ty

[languid hill]

you need to level up more weapons of the same type

[worldly condor]

PAIN... 😢

[tall root]

30 is not max btw (if you’re coming from Warframe). My Magick is at 32 so Weapon Art trees will likely get massively expanded or have some form of “prestige” for increased stats as we get deeper into Cogah or Cogah+ (not an actual thing but conceptually).

Every Art can unlock everything in the tree atm in game. Hope this helps! ❤️

[upbeat mauve]

oh okay ty

[drowsy crypt]

i have like 8 spare points after getting every upgrade, i hope theres a use for them in the future

[distant jungle]

I feel you on Seathorn. Past 50 T3s by now without the single frag I need.

[proven smelt]

Damn

[blissful bramble]

Quick little gameplay question here, would cogah increase my chances of a boss dropping a triple courage joinery?

[distant jungle]

No.

Bosses do not have ranged for joineries, each one only drops at a set tier.

[blissful bramble]

Oh boof

Ty for letting me know before I wasted my second cogah XDD

[distant jungle]

The three I know of that drop thrice are Ruthos, Thrice-Bound, and Mendiking.

[blissful bramble]

Ahh, guess I've got a lot of running around ahead of me lol

[distant jungle]

Knell Knight says it drops thrice in its journal info but this is incorrect.

[blissful bramble]

ohhh ok

[distant jungle]

Yeah, they are conveniently placed as far apart as possible lmao.

Votive bannerets at high level areas also drop thrice.

[blissful bramble]

I just want my paragon to have max courage :,(

[distant jungle]

I just sat near thrice-bound and killed him every half hour while tabbing out to do other stuff.

[blissful bramble]

ahh that's smart

[distant jungle]

I didn't have the energy to walk down to Mendiking or up to Ruthos constantly.

[blissful bramble]

I'm so new to this XD, every time I think I've got a good grasp I learn smth new

Now to find thrice-bound, soulmap, be my guide

[blissful bramble]

I just killed mendi, so I might just chill here

Nah I'll find thrice-bound

[distant jungle]

Right here if you did not already know.

I just find him one of the less annoying bosses.

Very straightforward and doesn't teleport out of combat range randomly like Ruthos can.

Isn't as tanky as Mendi and doesn't constantly summon adds.

[blissful bramble]

tysm

[worldly condor]

which is better for Silistavf Light Attack spam?