gameplay-discussion

[digital turret]

I bought the Paragon pack and they gave me 10 friend codes.

[atomic perch]

how many do you have left

[digital turret]

4 left

[distant jungle]

One of the rapiers has an extra stab.

[gusty sky]

Oh wait no, I kinda blanked out during the time w/ using nav because I was leveling duelo at the same time so I was doing alot of backstabs instead, you're right that nav has 2 pokes, but the other two rapiers have slash poke slash slash.

[distant jungle]

The not-cutlass (and I only refer to it as such cus I'm awful at remembering names) has one less for some reason.

[gusty sky]

(though backstab and front stab have slashes as part of it the front especially with no stab)

[distant jungle]

Or at least I think it did when I was using it.

I don't mind it, I honestly like the side swipes more.

I didn't try Dew cus it's a 19 spirit req.

And I run a 33/15/15 Courage lean.

I already mastered that one a while back.

[atomic perch]

hey i sent you a dm if you could read it

[distant jungle]

What is this, the new froggy? Lmao.

That be some game breakage.

Man I haven't seen froggy around in a long time.

[upbeat cradle]

sick fashion bro

https://tenor.com/view/gem-finding-gem-gem-alert-jasswa-looking-for-gem-gif-4573895384736430461

[digital turret]

As long as I like it, that's all that matters.

[upbeat cradle]

ofc bro, always

[distant jungle]

I want cosmetic loadout slots.

Like, saved outfits and colors that do not interact with virtues and equipment.

And vice versa.

[dusky socket]

We have that? Whatever you put on cosmetically for a loadout saves to that loadout, no effect on gear/stats, changes with whatever loadout you select

[distant jungle]

Aren't the only loadout slots we have in the arsenal?

And those save virtue prism, gear, armor, etc.

It's just a full loadout.

[dusky socket]

Loadouts have "hidden" cosmetic loadouts. If you bestich armor you can then cosmetically use it over your gear.

[distant jungle]

I just want to change an outfit and colors on the fly while changing nothing else.

And I know how to bestitch, I'm just asking for the ability to save bestitched outfits to swap between.

So I don't have to manually equip something else and do all the colors again.

[dusky socket]

Yeah, you can do that, but again, it's tied to that specific loadout. It would be nice to have it totally separate, though, and only change when you change the outfit

[distant jungle]

Yeah, that's what I said in the first place lol. Currently loadouts save everything, but I wanna change outfits without changing my weapons, for instance.

Including the colors on those saved outfits.

[dusky socket]

Nvm XD

[distant jungle]

I swap weapons fairly often, and I swap armor around to account for what I'm getting from totems, so it's annoying that I'd have to fine tune all that again every time I wanna change to another cosmetic outfit.

I fiddle with my gear too much to fit all that in loadouts, so it'd just be me redoing that every time.

[distant jungle]

Okay then.

[knotty imp]

"unstable"

[upbeat cradle]

yeah idk why that happens when doing the bear of wastes, all u can do is skip cutscene

[teal steeple]

Does anyone know what the buff the red Sinecure Soldiers cast does?

[digital turret]

This happened to me because I auto-caught an animal and immediately triggered a cutscene.

And while the animal was flying towards me, the cutscene triggered.

[upbeat cradle]

probably unrelated to auto-catching an animal

bc it happened to me too while doing bear of wastes

[upbeat cradle]

u get close to verminia in the cliff and it bugs

[upbeat cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-id-win-gojo-nah-id-win-does-he-know-he-doesn't-know-gif-11570727700061663036

[distant jungle]

I just realized something odd. It is a fact that, if you end block early, you can end parry early. Parry occurs during the first some number of frames of your block, so if you very briefly tap block, you can come out of block stat before your parry frames are done, wasting those frames and making it harder to parry. However, it is also a fact that you can parry during certain states in which it is impossible to block. You cannot block while in the middle of an attack animation, but if you input a block at the right time for a parry, you'll cancel out of the attack and into a parry animation. For certain things that have higher priority, like arcanics, you can still parry but it will not cancel the cast, making you finish the animation while an enemy's attack dramatically bounces off of you. Now, the first of these facts suggests, to me, that parrying is tied to the block state. The second of these facts, however, to me, suggests that it is not, and instead just tied to the block input. I am confused as to how both of these functions can coexist.

Sorry for the text wall lmao.

Then again I also know fk all about anything even tangentially related to coding anything, let alone a game.

[languid tiger]

Wait, you can disolve runes that you have too many of?!?

[distant jungle]

Yes, as you can totems.

Otherwise they'd just, sit there, being useless.

Given that you only need one of each rune.

[languid tiger]

Is the number in the top corner the amount you have of said rune/totem?

[distant jungle]

Top right? No, you ignore that, that's just a catalogue number.

Like Rat will always be... something, 1? I forget.

Wait fk no that's just totems, ignore me.

I forgot runes didn't have those. That's annoying.

Runes don't have catalogue numbers and do just list amount in the top right lol.

Wait, no, double guessing.

[languid tiger]

Yeah I've got like 50+ of some runes and totems

[distant jungle]

Here it says amount.

This on the top right is the catalogue number.

Which also just doesn't work half the time, as this and everflame have the same number.

[languid tiger]

Yeah sick tyty

[distant jungle]

As does like every toten on one of the grip types.

I forget which, maybe shortblade?

Nah, if so it was fixed.

[teal steeple]

That's the weapon type number...

[distant jungle]

Ah, so the same number in the same spot means something different between runes and totems.

Because ofc it does.

Also, why does it need a weapon type number when it already has a weapon symbol in the other corner?

Shenanigans, bah.

[teal steeple]

Ah, my bad, it is animal type, but it's bugged the same way as Flyblades and defaults to 2

The way you described it made it sound like it was a Long Blade specific issue.

[austere python]

With all the changes coming to loot and crafting does that mean all current gear that doesnt have the upcominf bonus stats will be both worse and way harder to make? If so is there even any value to current items?

[pliant stump]

why over erstroot which have 3 moons atrtunement

[halcyon thicket]

cause for some reason it has more max damage

[pliant stump]

gotcha., even more than seathorn?

[halcyon thicket]

Yes

169 vs 158

[lavish coral]

why do the orbs in Paragon glow sometimes?

[sly escarp]

Hard to say atm, but there's a good chance our existing collections will be outdated imo

[austere python]

Yeah kinda feared the same lol. Well, we'll see. Not a fan of seasonal style resets but we are in preludes so I completely get them experimenting like this. Cheers for the reply.
edit: I know it's not really a reset, but invalidating previous work feels the same imo.

[sudden ice]

charges up the heavy charged attack, but last I looked there was a bug related to the new runes stuff

from the Avakot wiki:

Pull Smites will grant The Paragon bonus Attunement on the next Charged Attack. This can be stacked up to three times, one for each Soul colour. After a valid Smite, the glowing gems slotted in the hilt can be used to track the currently stored bonus.

[undone minnow]

I wonder what will happen to the weapon slots everyone has bought

[smoky crater]

wdym

shouldn't happen anythin to those

[slim flax]

I have not played since prelude 11 or 12, how do I change my hair and face

[still bone]

Verminia

[slim flax]

Is there a quest requirement?

[undone minnow]

I definitely misremembered what they said in devstream 13 about slots. Whoops

[still bone]

You have to have done the fable to have her, but it's just the apperances option up top

[slim flax]

Verminia is not in the nighthold

[still bone]

Check her station for a letter.

[slim flax]

Quest says "Do not find Veminia"

[still bone]

i suggest you not take that part literally

[slim flax]

ty

At least my 10000 river pearls are still there

[dire python]

bruh. every time bruh. I always get jumpscared by the Vadagar Bear.

[slim flax]

Why is my game limited to 60 fps?

[finite stone]

Because you have vsync on, and your monitor refresh rate is 60Hz

[slim flax]

My monitor refresh rate is 180 hz

I just changed the display mode to fullscreen and could change to 180 hz

For some reason't doesn't work in borderless

[finite stone]

Hmm that is weird, I wonder if there's something elsewhere such as graphic drivers where it's limiting your vsynced fps to 60? Odd though it should just be going to 180 in that case

Dunno if you have Nvidia GSync on by any chance?

[slim flax]

Oh with vsync disabled I can use borderless with unlimited hz, but refresh rate is capped to 60 anyways

[slim flax]

I just killed myself with this organ, what am I supposed to do here?

[sly matrix]

Shoot at the glowing parts

[slim flax]

Oh thanks, they were quite hard to see

[modest crater]

Found an archon shard.

[normal sail]

-# f6 takes screenshots btw tho it has meta data tied to it

[agile horizon]

for some reason zoomers find using discord on the phone while sitting infront on a pc not cumbersome

[normal sail]

tbh i use discord on my phone while gaming only because some games are draconian and hijack your mouse and dont allow alt-tabbing

-# and soulframe runs better in fullscreen compared to borderless windowed

[agile horizon]

its not that they don't know about prtscr, or f6 or win-shift-s, it's that for some reason they find using a wholy separate device with an inferior ux more appealing

go figure

[agile horizon]

can't be THAT much better

[normal sail]

its noticable to me tbh

couple few more frames esp in the heavily forested areas

[agile horizon]

i just crank everything to low

[normal sail]

i paid for my 3060 so im gonna use the whole 3060 lol

but nah 98% of the time i run borderless so i can quickly flip to the soulf server or the wiki server for any help with ongoing discussions

[agile horizon]

you don't need those couple frames on a 3060, you have enough on borderless, lol

[normal sail]

yeah only real throttle i have is my cpu (R5 3600x) and my non-standard monitor refresh (72hz)

[twilit mirage]

Hey guys, anyone has a good build recommendation for soloing cogah? I dont have friends that play the game and I really wanted to farm the Cogah runes.... I already have all weapons, pacts, armours and normal runes

[ripe bone]

bow duelo with hail of arrows will melt most things (max olho por olho, activate duo duelo, dodge once and arrow hail). bromius with full 1st passive and grace for armor will also handle it pretty well. tethren can deal quite a bit of damage and is a good all rounder

oscelda is nice if your weapons are strong but you find health an issue

and make sure to get smite totem and upgraded normal runes

[vestal oriole]

how to unlock the pirate stuff?

[ripe bone]

there are shipwrecks that have ribbons on them. take one then start the quest

[vestal oriole]

is it a pickup like a page?

[ripe bone]

pretty much yeah

it should glow a bit with soul mode

[raven granite]

I did the Torment Stag fable, but it says incomplete and I can't hand it in.
Despite completing it.

Please tell me there's a fix without replaying this.
It was not that fun.

Turns out the "complete" icon is the darker one that makes it look incomplete...

[atomic perch]

could i use this to change my weapons attunement when it hits lvl 30 or would i need a different one?

[ripe bone]

You can do it now without level 30 i believe, but needing a different one depends on the weapon type. you can check which are available in the reforge menu

[halcyon thicket]

you can't change a weapon's attunement anymore

you will always need to hit the virtue requirement for said weapon, you can however use another virtue's joinery to reach the weapon's damage cap

[atomic perch]

oh they removed that

[halcyon thicket]

yes

[ripe bone]

now it adds attunement pips - up to five at max

[tender bone]

whats a fun pact to have? im thinking of switching

[halcyon thicket]

Duelo

[echo horizon]

Where do you get moranite? I need some for the duelo

[atomic perch]

avakot will sometimes be selling 10 of them

[echo horizon]

Ok but is there any enemies that drop it? Or like do I find it in chests and it's just random? If I gotta wait for Avakot to be selling them multiple times just to have enough that's gonna kind of suck

[atomic perch]

i got some running crypt of the circade but yeah avakot is kinda the easiest way to get them:(

[echo horizon]

Oof, to the grindstone then I guess

[smoky crater]

*refresh rate doesn't really matter considering you seem to be getting past 60 anyways *

[slow temple]

Hey - anybody play with a controller? I've tried a wired xbox 360 and a wireless PS4 and the game just doesn't recognize either. I'm playing on the soulframe launcher directly, if that matters

[normal sail]

i play with a wired xbox one controller

[slow temple]

And you just plug it in and it works?

[river elk]

are they specific controllers or 3rd party controllers, 3rd party controller probably work better than one made specifically for the console, but if not the case than ignore my text.

[slow temple]

The xbox 360 one is a 3rd party, the PS4 one is the real dualshock

So a little of both

[smoky crater]

try adding the game to Steam as a non-steam game. that sometimes fixes controller related issues

*standalone launcher is the only way to get the game at the moment so yeah that don't matter really *

[narrow jetty]

Is there an actual reason to grind Mastery?

And is there a way see how much slots I have?

[smoky crater]

mastery: you get 1 virtue point per level. gets autodistributed by the prism just like all other points.
as for slots: you can see how many you have available when you go to the Camel to "buy more slots"

[slow temple]

That did that trick! Thanks, you're a real one 🙌

[smoky crater]

[narrow jetty]

Is the only way to get slots the premium currency?

[smoky crater]

yes

for a while still anyway. they'll probably add some ways to get a few for free every now and then when the game's more "ready/complete"

[narrow jetty]

Hopefully, that limitation coupled with no trading can do some serious damage to the game

[smoky crater]

trading's gonna get added eventually too

[finite stone]

Mostly, but you will also get slots for founders weapons purchased via packs with real money

[narrow jetty]

But I assume it gonna take some time, maybe a couple of years

[smoky crater]

mmmhm

[narrow jetty]

Yeah I ought Founders, and I will save the currency exclusively for slots

[smoky crater]

as for "serious damage".... i mean come on we wouldn't even be able to play a game at this point in 99.99% of cases let alone keep progress we make at this stage of development

[finite stone]

Nice so yeah assuming you bought Paragon, you got 7 slots included already

[narrow jetty]

I didnt wanna start with the highest one, I bought Tethren to see if I like the game first, and after playing a little I am thinking of upgrading to Paragon

I find the game pretty fun and up my alley, I am only concerned with running out of content quickly, but lets be real this is a pre-release so it is expected

[normal sail]

yup, even unplugging it and plugging it back in the game auto detects it

only time i have an issue with it is on warframe, for some reason it doesnt detect the right analog stick at all

but a quick unplug/plug-in gets the stick detected again

[bleak hawk]

Hey peeps. Sorry for the rather frowned-upon question, but does anyone have a spare access key for the game, please?

[narrow jetty]

Soz already gave up mines, your beat bet is the Devstream in 20-ish days

[bleak hawk]

Just remembered I know a founder IRL and I asked him for one. Thanks though!

[atomic perch]

does soulframe really only allow 3 players

[halcyon thicket]

Per squad yes

People have been asking for 4

[twin skiff]

Do you all have any idea what they'll do with excess fragments, if anything?

[pure dome]

whats here

[sly matrix]

Nothing, it's a none implemented area 🙂

[dusky socket]

That's the party island where all the Devs hang out

[mighty relic]

anyone have the tree open for tp?

[digital turret]

: )

[mighty relic]

can u inv me?

[narrow jetty]

What if Cooldowns reset once out of combat?

[smoky crater]

feel like that could be abused pretty easily

[narrow jetty]

Against what? Mobs?

[smoky crater]

because you don't need to go all that far away from enemies to get out of combat

[digital turret]

What's your in-game username?

[narrow jetty]

Also I think ennemies HP should reset once all players are out of their combat zone

[smoky crater]

make a #1438224662344761345 post then

[mighty relic]

Myz_Zym

[atomic perch]

what does the mr do in this game i forget

[mighty relic]

but im in endless rn

[smoky crater]

1 virtue point per level

[atomic perch]

like can i choose where its allocated or?

[smoky crater]

nope

prism does it, same as other points

[atomic perch]

so the higher my mr the more virtue my prism gives?

[smoky crater]

as in prism chooses where the point goes

[atomic perch]

but so like if i lvled up my mr with this prism would it go to courage or grace?

[smoky crater]

dunno

there's a specific ratio each prism has

[atomic perch]

ok

[smoky crater]

it goes to the one where the ratio is kept the most similar

[ripe bone]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Verus'_Assassin

[pure dome]

can we even get in here

[sly matrix]

Not yet

[pure dome]

if you fall down the bridge u have to walk down all the way around 😭

[ripe bone]

put your mastery rank in the slider and you will see where the new point goes

[atomic perch]

k thx alot

[atomic perch]

whats the fastest way to lvl up mr

[ripe bone]

unlocking locations motes is the fastest

once that is done doing weapons and pacts

[atomic perch]

what the fastest way to lvl up weapons and pacts? like is there any speedleveling method

[ripe bone]

there is the arena in glades that people use for leveling. check in recruiting chat in game for it

[atomic perch]

im currently collecting world tress and the motes rn

[atomic perch]

but thx

[atomic perch]

oh yeah also do i need to lvl up like everything to hit rank 18?

[ripe bone]

yep

[smoky crater]

is 18 available for non founders already?

[ripe bone]

think so, we got like 5 weapons and a pact

oh non founders no

[normal sail]

i think the current overall max is 18.55 so maybe 17.75ish maybe

since iirc 1 weapon is like 0.10 ER exp

-# ^also not factoring in Rovgot Ruins motes

[mighty relic]

@digital turret u there?

[digital turret]

Back now, was making some tea.

[graceful siren]

help

[vagrant kayak]

Soulframe is currently in closed pre-alpha signing up puts you in the pool to be invited each week as 2000 invites are sent out. You can also purchase a Founder pack for instant access, or watch a stream from the official Soulframe channel which provides access for watching with a linked account. Next one is on the 12th

https://discord.com/events/998758139405029478/1497014350836400218

All the ways to get access are described in the pinned message in this channel

[mighty relic]

Ahhhh, i was saying thanks

[pure dome]

is there a reason why combat arts are so slow or impossible to obtain? my sword lvl 30 but somehow i have 5 points

[vagrant kayak]

Every weapon gives 5 Combat Art points the first time you level it fully, to get more you'll have to level more weapons of that type (in this case other greatswords)

[pure dome]

i see

[vagrant kayak]

The Combat Art system is getting reworked some time in the future to more of a combat manual, right now there's a big disparity between weapon types. There's not a lot of greatswords so combat arts are limited, but short blades and long blades can max out their trees and then some since there's a lot more of them

[rotund viper]

need some advice about the tormented stag

[digital turret]

You're welcome

[rotund viper]

still new to the game also

[lucid orbit]

What kind of advice? Combat, finding, etc.

[rotund viper]

all i have is a staff trying to kill it

[lucid orbit]

Do you have a rune equipped and/or Totems?

Staff is good for that fight because of the range. Melee tends to get knocked down a lot

[rotund viper]

no i have none

i get him half way down and he kills me

[lucid orbit]

I assume you are using Oscelda pact if you have the staff

Make sure you have leveled the pact a bit. There is an Art that lets you recharge fast in water. Its super heplful becuase you can Bestone the stag

[rotund viper]

yes i am

[lucid orbit]

Also the Phantom Flock will stagger him (no pun intended)

And don't overlook the heal ability. Its the strongest heal in the game

If don't have all 3 abilities unlocked I would farm some enemies until you do. It makes a big difference

[rotund viper]

okay thanks alot that has really helped me

[lucid orbit]

I don't know if you can do that Fable in groups, but you could see if someone can join you

[regal shadow]

all fables can be done in mp, but they are still very buggy from what i hear

so i'd recommend doing them solo for the time being

[lucid orbit]

I feel like its less buggy if you host, but yeah groups have been a problem for Fable (story line quests)

[regal shadow]

ye, for hosts it works fine, clients have issues with progress tracking and the like

[worn mica]

what joineries would work best on the navalha and odiac with this spread?
-# I'm guessing its extra spirit but I've already gotten confused over joineries and want to double check

[agile horizon]

should be thinking the other way around - what prisms to use for what weapons

you can get the starting prisms of other factions by talking to their representatives for the first time, even without having the talisman that lets you actually have dialogue options

[worn mica]

yeah i got them

[proper compass]

How do i find soulsbane ?

[lucid orbit]

Navalha maxs out with Twice Blessed Saphene. I would go for Iridis Joinery to get the highest Mixed Affinity

[atomic perch]

is the maestra armor set good?

[smoky crater]

yes

[atomic perch]

by a large marjin or?

[smoky crater]

it is one of the best sets

[subtle salmon]

what do we do if we triggered the "drip the sap into verminias cauldron" cutscene. But decided not to go through with it. Now she is just in nightfold for her cosmetic options per usual. With my waste bear quest stuck on "rendezvous with verminia. 🤦‍♀️

[smoky crater]

there's somewhere you gotta go in the openworld now where verminia's waiting for you, nothing's broken

[violet slate]

If Im max with, say Kith of Kings and switch to the Rose, will I still be max rank if I switch back to Kith?

[halcyon thicket]

Yes

[dusky socket]

And any standing you had with Kith will remain with it, as well

[distant jungle]

With an even spread like that it'd depend.

If something has 3 spirit and 2 grace, for instance, I'd go grace, so saphene, so you'd have 5 and 3 instead of 5 and 2.

Since you're fairly evenly split between those 2 virtues.

If you intend to play like me and never swap your virtue layout lol.

Which is valid, and simplifies things.

Do you have the triune talisman yet?

It's a +3/3/3 and very good. Especially for a hybrid like that.

[worn mica]

no, though i've been meaning to look into talismans
that is with synod's bell jar

[distant jungle]

I'd look into that, do the Circade stuff and all that, cus it's a very good talisman, arguably the best right now.

[distant jungle]

But yeah pretty much what this person said. If you're happy going halfsies, then just aim for the max total between those two virtues.

And I'd recommend prioritizing the +6 virtue nodes on pacts, cus they go a very long way.

I always get Sympathy maxed and then all 3 of the virtue nodes as a priority.

[worn mica]

yeah that's more or less how i've also been doing it

will look into it, thanks!

[distant jungle]

I run a wyld teth prism with a 33/15/15 virtue split myself, leaning Courage.

Moar stats is just pretty much the best focus right now.

With all them actually having a substantial benefit in the new system.

Have all three virtue nodes on every pact I use maxed, and the triune talisman, to hit those two 15s.

Having put both fable virtue points into Courage.

[atomic perch]

what does the helmet toggle emote do?

cause when i use it nothing happens

[halcyon thicket]

Doesn't work on some helmets

[atomic perch]

is it like suposed to hide the helmet or just change a part on it?

[halcyon thicket]

Opens visor

Put on orengall's

[atomic perch]

i wish there was a way to just completely make the helmet invisable

[halcyon thicket]

There is

[atomic perch]

really?

[halcyon thicket]

Bestitch helmless

[atomic perch]

oh cause ive just not been wearing a helmet at all lol

[halcyon thicket]

Yeah u can override that look over helmets ur wearing

[atomic perch]

thx i just did that

[distant jungle]

Assuming that Courage is the primary virtue and the other two virtues are equivalent to each other, would Igne Mora or Tessard be the better standard longblade?

Or Ivor, I guess, I don't know how that one compares.

[gloomy sequoia]

we should get map markers for boss spawns

[distant jungle]

Honestly Igne Mora has such damn good range I'ma probably use it anyway lol.

Especially with the new moveset longblades got.

[gloomy sequoia]

also is there a way to keep the compass up?

[smoky crater]

there's a setting in the accessibility tab for it

[white igloo]

Wait, do the longblades actually have different attack ranges?

I thought they were all the same, just different stats

[smoky crater]

idk if any others do but Igne Mora does have slightly longer range yes

[white igloo]

...Huh. Weird if true

I just used Igne Mora for thematic reasons, with Mora's Hand + Basker's Wrest

[smoky crater]

i mean... igne mora is pretty long

[distant jungle]

Ranges are true to model, same as WF.

And Igne Mora is a long boy.

[white igloo]

Maybe I'm too used to using Primed Reach

[distant jungle]

The new purely horizontal longblade combo is making it dead angle people behind me to either side lol.

[coarse sedge]

What happened to the joineries? Do they not give special effects anymore?

[halcyon thicket]

Unfortunately not

[coarse sedge]

Is there any point to adding a Spirit joinery to a Spirit weapon?

[halcyon thicket]

Yeah u need less spirit points to reach the weapon's max damage

[grizzled roost]

Can I join you all I am bored

[shut surge]

hey guys! I am currently on a siege and I am kinda stuck after clearing all the enemies out...

somthing to so with rope

[coarse sedge]

Ahh, so if I wanted to spend the least amount of Grace on my Seathorn. I would put a Grace joinery to bring down the requirement?

[halcyon thicket]

The requirement isn't for max damage, it's for the start of the bonus

Let's say seathorn needs 18 spirit as base minimum

And u need like 30 points to reach max damage

With a joinery you'll need less points

[coarse sedge]

Is there a cap to the max bonus?

[halcyon thicket]

Yes

Depends on the weapon's tier

Forgot the math

[coarse sedge]

Awesome, thank you!

[distant jungle]

Certain attacks do bypass the cap and keep scaling though.

Charged bow shots, charged heavies, and perfect throws.

[halcyon thicket]

Ah yes

[strange galleon]

did they change how getting faction standing works? i dont see bounties showing up in the overworld anymore

[eternal anvil]

They did, bounties spawn at World Trees now

[strange galleon]

ahh aright ty

[eternal anvil]

Finish a bounty from there and a faction rep shows up so you can do another one right away

(or you can grab all three tiers at once)

[strange galleon]

multitasking tiers.. yippee

[atomic perch]

why is the pensive bonnet so good like the mestra's helm is only slightly better when my stats are grace dominated

[shut surge]

I'm kinda... stuck somwhere

I want to know if it's the game? or I'm being dumb

more likely me being dumb

but... still

[visual radish]

Uhmmm any explanation or description or.....

[shut surge]

I have an image in screenshots

https://discordapp.com/channels/998758139405029478/1500622100740702359

[rotund viper]

i like the game but it is just as confusing as warframe was when i first started. That wiki is no help and I am losing my patience with the game

[atomic perch]

https://wiki.avakot.org/

id say this wiki helps quite abit

how does it not help you?

[rotund viper]

it has no sense of direction for me. its all over the place with information

[distant jungle]

It's a pre-alpha so things will constantly change, the wiki is a community effort and can only respond so quickly.

It's useful to read patch notes whenever they happen.

And yeah, most of your tutorial will be the chat, so it's good to ask questions as needed.

[atomic perch]

also the devs arent setting to many things in stone either yet too

[rotund viper]

i am new to the game and just starting to catch up with the patches

[distant jungle]

Yep, we can't really expect a firm, thorough tutorial until much later when the game isn't subject to major overhauls at any moment, lol.

[rotund viper]

it just seems like this is a game of find out on ur own

its a fun game but just the direction is more confusing the further i go and chat has not been a big help since everyone has surpassed me in the game

[severe shard]

Do shield-type weapons still count toward Combat Arts, Short Weapon + Shield, or only Shield?

[distant jungle]

Sword and Shield is its own weapon type and will only count towards its own points.

[warm violet]

If I level a weapon to 30, then sell it, and make another later, will it be level 30 or do I have to level it again?

[distant jungle]

The latter.

That level is tied to that weapon itself, not to every copy of it.

[warm violet]

Thank you so much!

[signal warren]

so, can I do anything with excess fragments? or am I just stuck with 9/1 of whatever item blueprint?

[distant jungle]

Stuck with it for now until you can sell and/or trade them eventually.

[zenith knoll]

mean weather today

[dusky socket]

Lol, I have yet to use the new Splitbolt, and good heavens, it's terribly beautiful XD

[zenith knoll]

i think duo duelo doubles the spear hail but i'm not sure

cuz even i was surprised by the damage

my gath isn't even fully ranked up

[signal warren]

I found my new favorite way to fight

precklies with Orengall pact

plus a spirit to increase my smite rate

[icy grotto]

Brand new player here. Do I need to play as a specific character in order to dual-wield shortblades/daggers? Still reading up on everything.

[signal warren]

from what I can tell, no

it looks like the pacts are your magic abilities and the weapons are your fighting style and it seems seperate

[icy grotto]

Welp I guess I'll learn by doing. Thanks!

[dusky socket]

It does. Mirrors all "attacks".

[austere lintel]

Pacts are completely seperate from weapon choice so dont worry! Your pact choices wont ever effect your weapons, however some pacts and weapons and their builds work well with certain virtue attunements , aligned with their respective virtues (The 3 symbols)

For example, Clivers is a Spirit attuned weapon, so if you build more spirit attunement, it'll allow for some passive damage i think or it allows for more synergy iirc

[fallen girder]

can anyone help me? Im trying to bond with the guy and nothing happens?

[austere lintel]

From what I know that's just teaching you how to smite spirits

Such as the twigy looking guys with white spitits

[icy grotto]

Okay this is super helpful. Thanks! What a cool game this is. I'm excited to see more.

[final rock]

virtues scale dmg depending on the attunement pips

[austere lintel]

Thank youuuu!!!

[fallen girder]

it said something about using middle mouse click to do something but I havent been able to get that since

[austere lintel]

Oh its telling you to use a rune then..?

Do you have one?

[fallen girder]

it did at one point

Can you see why im confused lol

[austere lintel]

Oh nvm i didnt read it correctly

No my first statment may be correct

[austere lintel]

100% XD

[fallen girder]

so what is supposed to happen when you press left click?

[austere lintel]

I think since its in glades (I assume) its a very early on dungeon so I really DO think its a tutorial for later enemies who use the same smite tech and such

[fallen girder]

yeah I just started the game

[austere lintel]

Well dont worry about that specific spirit then, But when you see enemys with a ring of their respective virtue, if you smite (as it shows in the pic, M1 and q) you can get your cd's back from smite and such!

For example an orange/red ring around an enemy is your courage ability, green is grace and blue is spirit that can come off cd if you smite them

Also smite does do a decent ammount of damage so its good to finish off an enemy with it too, However the smite ring wont last forever

[austere lintel]

Sorry i missed this

[fallen girder]

I think the bond thing worked it just didnt indicate very well

[austere lintel]

Ah okay, Well again im also quite new, I started P12- P13 so im only two preluides behind you and im still learning things every day!

The game can get confusing at times but with enough practise and help I find it gets easier!

Unlike Warframe, Soulframe rarely holds your hand, as cruel as it sounds

[fallen girder]

yea I noticed

[austere lintel]

So we rely on eachother XD

[fallen girder]

to be fair when warframe first came out it was pretty rough too

[austere lintel]

OH FR!!

[fallen girder]

the biggest complaint was that people had no clue how the mod system worked how this worked etc..

nowadays they have a tutorial and everything for that stuff

[final rock]

Warframe did not hold your hand for a looooooooooong time

[austere lintel]

It didnt but to be fair you do have Lotus holding your hand alot telling you want to do and where to go even early on no?

[final rock]

DE seem to be bad at onboarding tbh

ngl don't really remember

[austere lintel]

Same, Its been so damn long aye XD

[trim oriole]

thank god its over

[final rock]

man it is funny how they expect you to smite those things somehow

[upbeat cradle]

unranked clivers with negative grace 🤙

[final rock]

you can deal less than 1 dmg?

[upbeat cradle]

nope hahahaha

i was thinking on the lowest damage possible with a weapon

maybe the fists have the lowest damage tho

[final rock]

probably

well actually lowest dmg is low tier equipment against high tier armor. even then its still 1 dmg.

[trim oriole]

even if you could do less than 1 dmage they explode on contact anyway

probably they will remove that one from the codex like they did with the keith ghost

[final rock]

could also change the requirement for documentation. ie kills instead of smites.

[upbeat cradle]

probably introduce a new mechanic to get their information

bc to get a smite on those things you would have to apply smite before you do any form of damage, and that would be possibly pretty broken

[digital fog]

since a skytower is in Stroiac, wouldn't there be a rovgot ruins there too?

[trim oriole]

probably in the future

not atm though

[upbeat cradle]

yeah, possibly

and another one in galvinar wastes

🤙

[dusky socket]

Well, can confirm, lvl 100+ Cogah Mirifuir is...terrible lol

[simple elk]

Has anyone gotten Dewelion yet?

[slate adder]

I'm certain I just saw another player in my Nighthold? I teleported in when I was in the Fire King place, but they loaded out, is that a feature or something I am somehow missing?

[wanton stag]

why do i have to put my password every time i launch the game?

[digital fog]

just to make sure you remember that password. (i think?)
Warframe is the same way.

[clear osprey]

so after accidentally destroying my first rune ("releasing"??) I have found 10 runes in the world but none of them are for my weapon still and I am confused because I am soft locked out of progressing the main quest still

[iron temple]

I miss Guildar joinery life steal so much I'm gravitating to Tethren pact... 🤣😻

[keen river]

you can always go try to kill some bosses if you're looking for specific runes, there's a list of them here: https://wiki.avakot.org/Runes

[iron temple]

If you need help defeating a specific Agari boss for a specific rune, I'm sure the in game recruiting channel is more than willing to help! 😄

[clear osprey]

but there is no way to gaurantee a long blade rune will drop right?

[iron temple]

For some specific bosses yes it will drop a compatible rune if it does drop a rune...

[keen river]

technically there is no way to guarantee any drop, even the ones from bosses are rng, but the bosses each have a specific rune that they can drop instead of the entirely random ones you can get from treasure chests

[iron temple]

For others at least it reduces the pool of possible runes...

[keen river]

flayed reaper (glades of andurin boss), knell knight (overworld boss), and the kearnhold siege all can drop everflame, the longblade rune. it's not guaranteed that they will, but your chances are higher than when opening chests, so if you do those and open chests along the way then you're likely to find one at some point during that run

[iron temple]

30 minute cooldown on most bosses and 3 hours on siege event... 😄

Plus several bosses have a clone in an underground place... 😄

[keen river]

30min is a lot shorter than it sounds tbh

the siege cooldowns are rough yeah, but the boss cooldowns are not that bad. check recruiting chat or #looking-for-group if you want to organize a "share" (3 players take turns inviting and killing the boss in their world; so you get 3 chances to get the drop you want instead of just 1)

[iron temple]

Sinecure-Vella in the east pit dermak dungeon just east of Kearnhold siege, also can drop everflame! 😄

oh sorry Vella does the greatsword one apparently... 😄

Tho considering Vella is supposed to be a proper miror of Malrog, there is a chance that Vella could actually drop the long blade Everflame rune as well, but is it is harder to know for sure because siege stuff has extra consideration to figure out proper correlation... 😅

[sharp cove]

Does anyone know where to farm Nurash and Stultin?

[wanton stag]

i dont see an option, in warframe i did which is why im asking

i dont see a remember password option

[clear osprey]

I found a halberd rune and can craft one, I am saved

[distant jungle]

Kill the bad touch tree people, any of them.

[sacred girder]

In warframe? You probably have an option titled "auto login with steam" on. Soulframe isnt out on steam yet, so no option for that

[distant jungle]

Armored or not, they all have an equal chance of dropping any of the mockery weapons.

[sacred girder]

The auto login thing on warframe is fairly new too. Not super new, but not old

[wanton stag]

is just annoying how is 2026 and devs cant add a simple remember password button. it is what it is tho

[dusky socket]

My friend, this is a pre-alpha game with like 1% finished....XD

[keen river]

for now, just make your password something you can easily remember and it won't be too much of a hassle

once it's available on steam we'll probably get an auto-login option like warframe has

[sweet quartz]

Are you supposed to see a cut scene halfway up the tower for Orick's quest? There was just a flash of black, and then nothing happened on top of the tower

[wanton stag]

Warframe has it and is the same devs, is no an excuse that is a prealpha. My only 2 complains so far is the password thing and the horrible aimbot you get when using magic weapons that targets boxes instead of enemies when doing a heavy attack.

[distant jungle]

They do need to prioritize enemies when auto-targeting, as well as when smiting cus I keep snagging animals.

Having said that, blocking disables said auto-target, so you can manually aim.

Those are touch ups that'll probably eventually happen tho.

And for passwords I just keep a password doc so I copy/paste anyway lol.

Do that for everything.

Cus I use passes that I cannot feasibly remember.

[viral saddle]

yeh two years dev

[distant jungle]

Also tbf, the game is at a state in which most devs don't even show the game off, let alone let people play it.

I feel like that's throwing off some peoples' expectations.

This is very early dev.

Shit's gonna be jank for a while, that's just expected.

For the state it's in, it is remarkably stable.

[sweet quartz]

What's crazy is how much I vibe with it even at this point

[distant jungle]

Yeah lol.

[sweet quartz]

That's nuts that they pulled that off

I'm really excited to see where they go with it

[wanton stag]

the blocking only works for normal attacks not the Q + middle mouse button

[shy fiber]

i know its a dumb question but im new, i need to equip a rune to continue the missions, but the rune that i have its not compatible with my weapon, what do i do?? T-T

[austere lintel]

That's not dumb at all! Never say that!

Do you know the name of the Rune you got?

[shy fiber]

i have it in spanish, but i think in english is "Fervid" r something like that

[distant jungle]

Each weapon grip type has its own runes, so you'd just need to find one that does fit on.

[austere lintel]

Hmmm, I don't think I can help you with the Fervid rune as I cant find it myself, however you can always farm some runes from Agari (World Bosses) and they have a chance to give you runes

[distant jungle]

You can tell what weapon it's for via the top left symbol.

Top left there, longblade.

[shy fiber]

i dont think imma be able to kill world bosses if i started playing like 2 hrs ago 😅

[distant jungle]

How it shows up in inventory.

[austere lintel]

OH DAMN NEW NEW

[distant jungle]

You can also get them from random chests, just kill and loot stuff both in the overworld and in dungeons.

[shy fiber]

yep, i bought the founder pack while i was at work hahaha

[austere lintel]

That's okay there are plenty of other fables that you could complete to achive higher level and weapon blueprints

[shy fiber]

this is the one i have and im mage

[austere lintel]

Ah shield

[distant jungle]

That would be a sword and shield.

[austere lintel]

You can get a shield from killing enough Ode, I will send what oden specifically but if you keep killing them, enough fragments will drop where you can build weapons at Tulvalkane, (if you have completed her fable) she is your blacksmith, Where you will craft weapons and armor

Oh wow most Ode have a chance to drop the sheild and sword blueprints but ill highlight them in red squares

Any of those guys have a chance of dropping a Shield and Sword BP!

[shy fiber]

i just unlocked a player´s cave after defeating the reindeer, so i dont think i have her xd

[austere lintel]

OOPS not the bottom middle sorry!

[austere lintel]

That's okay! Like I said, Maybe put that Fable aside for now and try do some other ones, If you don't know where to go remember you can press J to go to your Journal to track or select different Fables, and don't forget G allows your bird to show you the way to said fables!

[shy fiber]

k ty so much, i was so lost hahaha

[knotty hound]

yeah so

This is how I find out you can siege and befell forts

guh

[austere lintel]

No worries, The game can get really confusing so if you ever get lost or need help dont feel afraid to ask!

We envoys help each other out!! ❤️

[shy fiber]

imma save your name then 😛

[austere lintel]

Hey S tier is amazing tho!! Good work!!

That damn sticker is making me laugh sm XD

[knotty hound]

I assume that's the highest possible tier

[austere lintel]

Yep!

[knotty hound]

mfw

[signal warren]

I'm lost how do I find history motes lmao

[austere lintel]

They are glowing yellow/gold orbs of light that have a slight "Shimmer" like noise when nearby one, I find that they are a lot easier to see at night as their light is easier to spot, Be warned, Some like to hide in bushes too!

[shy fiber]

@austere lintel im back xd, now what, i stay dead? xd

[austere lintel]

Oh damn, you ran into a bug, You have to close the game and relog

[shy fiber]

my first dead and its a bug hahaha

[austere lintel]

Ive had it happen to me too so I know it personally hahaha

But when you die NORMALLY, you should turn into your Sparrow and follow the green line to your downed body, You dont need to press anything, just fly into your body! - Holding down space also allows you to fly faster too (Just know that you dont HAVE to follow the line, if you know where your body is you could just fly directly to the area your'e downed at!)

If you don't make it in time however, You will respawn at one of the respawn stones, closest to your death

Oh, One more thing i forgot to add!

When you die, You will spawn as your Sparrow ON the closest Respawn Stone, However you dont have to leave the rock, You have two options when you die, Respawn via Sparrow or you can simply choose to respawn at the repsected Respawn Stone too - That way if you get lost you can always just say "NOPE" and just spawn at the rock!

[slate monolith]

okay. what do i do if i cant respawn

[distant jungle]

Close the game and log back in, sadly. That's a new soft lock going around.

It's been acknowledged as a priority though, so it should be fixed soon.

[slate monolith]

yeee. did that now

okay

[loud sky]

searched almost everywhere couldn't find soulbane 💀

[distant jungle]

It's in the goop swamps.

Small flower, mushroom-sized but not a mushroom.

[loud sky]

Thx

[sinful scarab]

its already crafted and come with their own slots, armours in general don’t need slots

[austere lintel]

YIPPIE!!!

[sharp cove]

Does anyone know where to find Orengall's Fang?

[vagrant kayak]

Rare Dendrit chests in the Glades of Andurin or the Crypt of the Circade

[sharp cove]

What does the Dendrit chest look like?

[vagrant kayak]

It's the wooden ones with a golden glow

[stark orchid]

Hello, is it normal that like every second sparrow tale bugs out for me? It doesn't really track progression or doesn't spawn enough enemies. Sometimes relogging helps but not always. Rn factions is the only real progression for me but it gets extremely frustrating and dishardening if the content I have to do doesn't work at all

[sharp cove]

Thank you

[austere lintel]

I think it's a known issue as of late, unfortunately

I think this recent patch may have broken the code a little

[stark orchid]

Any tips? Like how to farm the things to sell for standing or should I just wait for a hotfix/update?

But thanks for the feedback

[austere lintel]

So far what you're doing is great! I would probably try and do a few sieges if you can daily as they help with your enclave progression too and iirc it's also faster, I would also recommend possibly grinding Agari for new sets or weapons to help with the MR grind, All that passively helps you to achieve more end game content too as you'll start to understand and flow with the game more with these issues going on

SORRY FOR TEXT WALL!!

[vagrant kayak]

I may have missed a change but I don't think Sieges give Enclave standing

They pop up the standing bar but I don't believe you gain any, you gain Ode Infamy which is a different (and currently not implemented) system

[austere lintel]

I joined in P13 so I'm a little fresh but I've understood the fundamentals at their basics I guess, I've been able to reach MR 12 (On the literal verge of 13 lmao) but I've been able to work my way and passively build my defense level and farm better gear to allow for me to enter higher leveled areas, and so forth

[austere lintel]

I think you may be correct, My bad lmaoo - Yeah I think I get confused with the bar progressing at the end of the seige

[vagrant kayak]

It is confusing to be fair

[vestal crystal]

It because each thing you do you get a summary of everything you have for some reason. Very strange

[stark orchid]

I started at P8 or 9 but stopped because I didn't feel the fever but I returned after the last DevStream and now I got it. But a couple of bugs and wonky scaling bug me slightly. But it is like back in the day when I fell in love with warframe.

I'm on MR 11 now trying to grind out the Kith of Kings shop before I can raid the Avokados and Gardeners

[sly matrix]

It's a shame the Ode Tempest abilities are so underwhelming, cause the Zipline Passive is GOAT 😂

[stark orchid]

I love your Ezio Outfit

[sly matrix]

Insanitor Auditore 😛

[slate monolith]

so roofs do not have collision?
fell through that roof in front of me.
nothing game breaking just somehing funny i noticed while going where i am probably not supposed to go

[iron temple]

This Prelude I've noticed a few roofs that can now be fell through... 😅

They are supposed to be solid but... 😅

There is an Archer sniper in Skelfies that now has to hangout in a barn because he can't stay on his roof... 🤣

[stable mist]

does abilities have any cap or it can scale infinite by grace, spirit and courage?

[fallow arch]

an ability scales with its respective virtue

[stable mist]

ye i know but there is any kind of cap to it or not?

[fallow arch]

not that we know of as we cant really get too much currently

[sly matrix]

There are some caps in place. Like the Summon Wolves ability from Orengall cannot get higher than 4 wolves at 38 spirit

[fallow arch]

pretty sure that got changed to just two

[sly matrix]

😱

They be stealing my doggos?!

[fallow arch]

lemme check

might need to respec my orengall

[austere python]

Wondering something, just finished the duelo story and it says a new ancestor joined my nighthold. However I don't see it anywhere. That not added yet?

[fallow arch]

so far

aight ye caps at 4 @sly matrix

[fallow arch]

not yet that we know of, you can still fight her by wearing the ribbon for the armor and espadarte

[austere python]

I didn't know you could have more than 1 wolf? 😮

[fallow arch]

ye more spirit = more wolves, apparently up to 4

[austere python]

good to know, cheers. Stuff like that and attributes in general really lack any sort of ingame explanation. 😅

[sinful scarab]

i remember seeing 5 but only for few seconds , but that needs max spirit and some spirit buffs

[halcyon thicket]

There's a bug where u can have a persistent wolf

[fallow arch]

more intuitive than it used to be, it used to be courage = damage, spirit = duration and grace = range for all abilities which doesnt really make any sense with the virtues but they make much more sense now in my opinion

[austere python]

What do they do now then?

I see so many sources saying different things that I simply dont know anymore. Other than them boosting certain gear

[fallow arch]

supposedly grace also makes you harder to spot and in groups higher courage attract or "soft taunts" enemies

which is I guess is hinted at in this flavor text

[fallow arch]

guild wars had a similar system with higher armor players being targeted first

ah right forgot to mention the health and cooldown bit

[austere python]

tyvm, one last question. can magic ranged attacks headshot?

[finite stone]

They could before, but this was silently removed in P14

It's unknown yet whether it's a bug or an intentional removal of the mechanic for magick attacks

[fallow arch]

given that they auto target, having to fight auto targeting might be annoying

[finite stone]

It was just done by holding RMB, that lets you aim manually

but kinda pointless now haha

[fallow arch]

thats what I mean

[echo horizon]

Would doing votives count as completing sparrow tales for the oblivio quest?

[vagrant kayak]

Yep

[echo horizon]

Awesome

[finite stone]

Even ones that aren't sparrow's tales? 👀 I though it would have to specifically be tales?

[smoky crater]

That's what i'd assumed too

[vagrant kayak]

I did it just by doing Votives so 🤷‍♂️

[smoky crater]

Ye but like... Any votives? Like sieges organs collectors too?

[vagrant kayak]

I didn't do those so can't say

[smoky crater]

[ivory orchid]

Question, I'm super new here, like, fresh from the egg. If I unequip my sidearm and use a pact with a max level, will it funnel all the EXP into my primary weapon? If so, will this method be faster for primary weapon leveling?

[finite stone]

Do you mean sparrow's tales? Or are you talking about the new mini-quests which also hang on the votive shrines? 🤔 I think with sieges/organs/collectors eliminated that'd be the only one to confirm

[regal shadow]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Gameplay#Item_Leveling

[finite stone]

As a general rule, 25 50% of Experience earned goes to your Pact, and 75 50% to your currently held weapon, so it won't make a huge difference. I think exceptions are things like animal charming and moaners but it won't be important if you're getting most of your leveling from actual combat anyway

[ivory orchid]

I see, so it would go to 100% if the pact was already maxed? Or is that wasted EXP?

[finite stone]

I think having a maxed pact is technically 'wasted' xp yeah, like it won't increase the xp towards your weapon, but I'm not 100% sure of this

[ivory orchid]

I'll give it a test run later, thanks. 👍

[fallow arch]

first time I've fought this

[sly yacht]

poor little duck can’t escape

[smoky crater]

Smh just walk thru the cage

[subtle salmon]

What is the best way to get quartz besides the merchant that sadly sells 10 at a time? 😑

Also, when we reforge I see that's what prompts "joinery". If we already ranked up the same weapon. Will we need to start all over with the reforged one?

[ripe bone]

Huh thought only i had that bug

[trim oriole]

Finsihed the update

good stuff, now we wait for next

[sinful scarab]

so this is what insects see
-# before unsupervised baby eat them

[lone rapids]

So what is eternium?

[digital turret]

Wow

[finite stone]

lore-wise, or just in a gameplay sense?

[lone rapids]

I guess both? I’m just using it as a fast travel for the left side of the map, but I was curious

[finite stone]

Well in a gameplay sense it's the social hub where you can plant Founders' blooms, all the info is on https://wiki.avakot.org/Eternium_Gardens

In a lore sense, that's the easier answer: other than it being on the Silvern Sea, we have no idea 😭

[lone rapids]

Ah gotcha, a way for founders to leave a mark

[modest crater]

is your wolf squirreling? lol

[narrow jetty]

Does Defense and HP scale off Virtue points or something?

[distant jungle]

HP, yes, directly. Defense does too but that's just cus armor has scaling and lists such.

[smoky crater]

Points in courage give the most hp, grace the 2nd most and spirit the least

[warm light]

am I supposed to have gotten all three fragments from my initial completion of the stag quest?

[smoky crater]

Nop

You get the other fragments from Vadagar Stag that can spawn at night from goo puddles at set locations or as the last stage of a 2 or 3 star faction tale

[distant jungle]

What saddens me is that Courage's whole bonus is supposed to be being tanky, yet that extra HP is at least partially balanced out by the fact that Courage's best armors give about 40 less total armor at max than the best of the other two virtues.

And if the HP is balanced out by defense, then Courage's bonus becomes kind of pointless.

Before totems, with a Courage focus, you're hitting around 120, while both others can breach or at least approach 160.

Like, wat?

Especially with Grace still one-tapping bosses after the HP boost because of the damage multiplier.

[digital turret]

The inventory UI overlapped with the map.

[narrow jetty]

Also Avocado merchant sells them

[normal sail]

Jawa-voy

[finite stone]

He does not

[warped brook]

there is random wulder in the ground that's glowing and making a sound, i cant pick it up or do anything with it . Am i missing something?

[regal shadow]

go to your nightfold, equip the blue ribbon in your helmet slot and try again

[fallow arch]

ah yes the witchvoy

[warped brook]

hmm... i don't get it 😄

[distant jungle]

It's a fable. You collect blue ribbons from shipwrecks, craft them into a silly hat, then grab the sword.

[halcyon thicket]

i did this once but forgot how, is this cause of the camel

[warped brook]

got it, thanks

[digital turret]

To be honest, I'm not sure how exactly it triggers, but when you press these 3 actions (Light Attack, Q for Spectral Sight, and Block), it works.

[halcyon thicket]

i mean the no face

[past drift]

Any suggestions on best way to farm the mockery weapons? They're the only ones Im missing now.

[smoky crater]

Talkin about garrens armor set and weapons?

[digital turret]

As for the face, I have no clue how I lose it, but I guess it's tied to the wolf transformation.

[spark jackal]

the polearm rune from cogah is kinda weak

[distant jungle]

You say that, but I've seen footage of it deleting the new siege trio in 3-4 casts all at once.

After the HP buff.

[halcyon thicket]

yeah it's become arrow hail now lol

[spark jackal]

previosuly it was stagger range line

now it just arrow hail

seem like most rune is no more smite duration activation?

[distant jungle]

Well yeah cus the old system was broken lol.

They changed that with the launch of P14.

[spark jackal]

yea i can see that

[distant jungle]

Runes were literally exponentially nerfed and were still powerful enough that they had to buff boss HP.

[spark jackal]

they try to blance most runes

[distant jungle]

And in my opinion, bosses still need an outright special DR against runes.

By like, 50% even maybe.

To keep runes feeling powerful against mooks without speedrunning bosses so hard.

[spark jackal]

during cogah does boss get harder? seems like only normal enemy getting higher level

[vagrant kayak]

Bosses also get harder yes

[storm jacinth]

To charge my rune I need to pull smite a smited enemy, right?

[fallow arch]

anyone else figured this one out?

[vagrant kayak]

Correct

[vagrant kayak]

Well it's the Will-o-wing but I don't think you can smite those since they pop in one hit

[storm jacinth]

i have a 3 in 50 chance. Am I just completly blind or is just extremly unlucky? I even have the dmg number turned on and cant see a even a slight chance that it critted/smited

and around 100 enemies I havent seen a single smitted enemy

[vagrant kayak]

It's when enemies glow red/blue/green

Seems statistically very unlikely though I suppose possible... what weapon are you using?

[wet turtle]

there is no "crits", you'll never see damage numbers be affected by that. Smites are when a colored aura flashes over the target and then they glow for a while. While they're glowing, you hold spirit vision + light attack to Pull Smite them

[rocky radish]

What's the full name of that app?

[wet turtle]

Little Genius

[rocky radish]

Tks

[storm jacinth]

finally i got one. i guess it was just extremly unlucky

[vagrant kayak]

Congrats

[ivory orchid]

Picking up a flower just triggered Duelo's Chamariz skill and made a perfect dodge clone. Was it pollen? Did I dodge an allergy attack?

[vagrant kayak]

The Totems you can apply to weapons have various ways to boost Smite

[rocky radish]

I want to start giving more attention to SF, since now it has more content to enjoy than when I first played it

[vagrant kayak]

Dodged a bee

[storm jacinth]

yeah but dont have one for magicks yet

[distant jungle]

I'll also take this opportunity to mention that it is very funny that in-game the skill node is, iirc, called 'smitten'.

Which is... not the word I think they were going for.

Smited is the past tense of smite, smitten is to fall in love.

[fervent sun]

Smote?

[ivory orchid]

Smittothed.

[storm jacinth]

i mean they are smitten enough to reveal their soul...

[distant jungle]

That too I guess, it changes places with smited on most used depending on context.

Smote also rolls off the tongue more easily I suppose.

But yeah, the point is that smitten just means something else entirely.

[rocky radish]

I dunno, my build lets my enemies smitten, that's for sure

[distant jungle]

Lol.

Let's not flirt with the Ode.

Doesn't sound like the best idea.

[rocky radish]

Didn't meant it in that way, so I agree with that

🤝🏼

[distant jungle]

I mean, what else are you leaving smitten?

[rocky radish]

I mean, I'm leaving their asses smitten, yeah, but with flying blades and a stave

[distant jungle]

No, you see, my point was that smitten means, and only means, to fall in love.

It is not the past tense of smite, it is a different word.

[rocky radish]

Wait it IS a different word?

Lol

[distant jungle]

Yes, the past tense of smite is smited or smote.

Smitten is its own word lol.

Evolving language and English being complicated.

[rocky radish]

Just googled it, Smitten is traducted to my language as falling in love, as well as hurting a lot, giving pain, injure, and punishing something

LOL, english's tryna tell us somethin

[half talon]

Love is pain.

[distant jungle]

Smitten is pretty much exclusively used today to mean 'deeply in love, infatuated, or captivated by someone or something'.

Which is why smote is still in use.

More than one word existed and each took on its own particular meaning.

[distant jungle]

I'd say mood but that'd be from social osmosis, given that I am ace and do not truly understand.

I suppose I am lucky in that regard.

[rocky radish]

Well, now we'll have to add "to be teared out of your own soul" to the definition

[distant jungle]

Lmao.

[sinful scarab]

that's warframe sound effect right?

[rocky radish]

Pretty sure it is

The one that plays when you get trough a scanner, isn't it?

[signal warren]

Ye the ones that futz with your shield?

almost like they're the same dev studio

[pliant merlin]

Hey does anyone have that 16th world tree that’s top left of the map? Trying to completely open the map up any help would be much appreciated 😁

[rocky radish]

Yeah that ones

[rocky radish]

Not yet, I theorize that I need to complete the duel with the pirate masta, but I'm not skilled enough yet, nor sure that's the path

[late furnace]

nice

this is my friend's pov on same hook

[distant jungle]

Will work after enough tries, just gets buggy in MP.

I've had it happen and had it work only on the, like, 6th try.

[late furnace]

when playing alone too

[distant jungle]

I haven't had that, thankfully.

[pliant merlin]

Ah I see thank you I shall go on me venture lest you wanna group I could maybe help?😄

[rocky radish]

Would group later, rn I'm on math class

1 week till the first midterm

[wispy stirrup]

nice

[digital turret]

Since weapons will drop directly from mobs in Prelude 15, I put all the weapons on craft. I wonder what DE will do? They could either give me slots and put the weapons in my inventory, leave them stuck in the forge, making me one of the few players in the game with weapons sitting in there, or just delete them and I lose all my resources : )
What do you guys think?

[wispy stirrup]

crazy gameble boss

[fallow arch]

doesnt need to be 30 to do this anymore?

[fallow arch]

wouldnt that remove the need for the forge?

[digital turret]

I have no idea what's gonna happen to the forge, I just did it to see what DE will do.

[halcyon thicket]

Are u sure that's not 30

[halcyon thicket]

I also have a copy of each weapon just waiting there lol

[digital turret]

My man! 🤝

[narrow jetty]

No, pacts

[smoky crater]

ye i was talkin about garrens armor set and weapons that OP was askin about

[fallow arch]

its 26

[fallow arch]

it does say less fragments from the post

[smoky crater]

iirc it was only the truly rare versions that would require fragments to be crafted and the less rare or special versions would just drop as pre-built and land into a chest of sorts where you could then pick what you wanna take out to actually fill up a weapon slot for example

or somethin along those lines

[finite stone]

Sort of - smote is the simple past tense, whereas smitten is the past participle.

Think of mosquito bites:

• It bit me
• I have been bitten

Then for smite:

• I smote the Sinecure
• This Sinecure has been smitten

DE are using smitten correctly, as 'smited' (whilst used sometimes) is not really the 'correct' past participle. It is unfortunate, as you point out, that it has a far more common alternate meaning!

[spice elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/lyle-recom-lyle-lyle-wainfleet-lyle-weinfleet-hit-gif-10191849791311377369

[smoky crater]

what if i wanna say smoot

[spice elbow]

what if i wanna say smooch

[smoky crater]

or smont

[smoky crater]

timeout this man right now

yes it was

[zenith knoll]

hell yeah Pull Smooch

[cobalt venture]

can we live stream this or no? i need proper answers from a proper authority figure please & thank you

[fervent sun]

https://forums.soulframe.com/topic/195-non-disclosure-agreement-update/

[fallow arch]

wat

[cobalt venture]

okay thank you & God Bless

[smoky crater]

there is no NDA anymore, so yes streaming is fine.

[cobalt venture]

thank you

[ivory orchid]

If I have the Verus' Assassin (Grace/Courage) attunement, would the damage be the same if it were attuned to Grace as opposed to Courage? Would I get more out of it if it were 5 Blue instead of 2 Blue and 3 Red?

[spice elbow]

me when i accidentally complete a siege without knowing what it was

[zenith knoll]

grace pips give slightly more weapon damage than other virtue pips if the weapon has some

so here, for maximum damage, you'd want a thrice blessed saphene joinery

though the difference isnt as big as youd imagine

[ionic seal]

Is there a way to change classes ? I honestly don’t like the courage class

[ivory orchid]

You can change by going to one of the other faction representatives and getting a prism that is attuned to a different virtue.

Then you can build around a different virtue.

[undone prawn]

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[sly escarp]

Unless you have 5, due to weirdness of how caps work

[zenith knoll]

because of course nothing is ever easy

[spice elbow]

yeah so these just arent spawning

im in the area it told me to go to but theres nothing here

[halcyon thicket]

Did show up at the top of the screen when u got to the tower

[spice elbow]

tower?

[halcyon thicket]

Yeah that's where the college of pensives is

[sly escarp]

You should be at the tower you met the ghost scholar at

[halcyon thicket]

The motes can spawn outside it

[spice elbow]

OOOHHHHH that tower

[smoky crater]

that definitely isn't the area for the college ._.

[spice elbow]

why is it having me come here then

[smoky crater]

bugggg

[sly escarp]

Guessing you have another objective being tracked and it's bugging the quest

[spice elbow]

nope this is the only one

[smoky crater]

yee

[halcyon thicket]

Worth reporting

[dreamy python]

whats is the benefits of Cogah?

[halcyon thicket]

Cogah runes

[sly escarp]

And talismans

[smoky crater]

cogah talismans, cogah notes

[sly escarp]

And more weapon XP

[dreamy python]

there is exclusive weapons?

[halcyon thicket]

Ah yes talismans

[smoky crater]

nope

[sly escarp]

Nope

[ivory orchid]

Stumble around drunken on ancient fairy sap listening to voices in the woods while everything tries to kill you.

[dreamy python]

ok, nice

[ivory orchid]

Also better loot.

[sly escarp]

???

[halcyon thicket]

Just runes

[sly escarp]

Aside from Cogah runes and talismans the loot is the same

[halcyon thicket]

Again i forgot talismans

[ivory orchid]

The bosses drop gemstones during Cogah, if I'm not mistaken.

[sly escarp]

The bosses can always drop Moranite and Sappheline

Though, iirc their chance at those might be tied to level? So chance might go up.

[dreamy python]

hope they nerf or rebalance the armors, the old man armor set its just too good

[sly escarp]

Yeah, it might need a touchup tbh

Maybe bring down the base stats a bit

[dreamy python]

but the game its fire, im gonna get the founders when i can

im just for the grind now, already did it all i think

[ivory orchid]

Mendicant King can drop them outside of Cogah.

But I haven't encountered any other that do.

[spice elbow]

lowkey the shortsword sidearm is so good

[ivory orchid]

Also hi @sly escarp , long time no see!

[sly escarp]

Heyla Key!

[sly escarp]

Which one?

[spice elbow]

the nettle

[ivory orchid]

I'm glad someone loves it.

[spice elbow]

the stagger rate is INSANE

[ivory orchid]

Because I'm ready to throw mine in the trash.

[spice elbow]

then again i am very early game

[halcyon thicket]

Only for the game to not let you

[ivory orchid]

If I see another Nettle fragment drop in my search for the new sword, I'm going to throw away the whole island.

[dreamy python]

the needle is the rapier one?

i dont really understand, we get her on the mestra carmo quest, no?

why drop fragments after this

[smoky crater]

needleseye is a greatsword, nettle is a single shortblade/dagger

[glass spoke]

hey guys, is unstuck possible without chat?my chat bugs and disapears sometimes and im currently stuck behind a tent in fort curail

[smoky crater]

nop

outside of a relog

[glass spoke]

bit rough if im in the middle of a raid then

ty for response

[visual radish]

You are thinking navalha

[spice elbow]

me when im talking to myself in the mirror

where do i get this

[finite stone]

You just gotta scroll down a bit

[fallow arch]

just doesnt sound right

[finite stone]

Yeah it's a funny one, much older meaning of smitten which doesn't sound natural alongside its more common/modern meaning

[viscid forge]

is this what am i suppose to see in joinery stuff?? because when i look it up like guides in yt I see like effects or bonus stats it gives
but when i look at it
It's just attunement so idk

or am i missing something

idk am still new ish in this game and am pretty lost since last time i played these weren't a thing yet
and virtues were like manual changes

[halcyon thicket]

they removed the bonuses very recently

[viscid forge]

Ah so ig am not missing anything
then does it matter what joinery i put?

besides the attunement?

[halcyon thicket]

joineries let u spend less points to reach max damage with attuenment

but that's it

[viscid forge]

ig it doesn't matter what i put then..

ish

[halcyon thicket]

if u wanna use it with a courage build

u can put a courage joinery and it'll scale with courage

[viscid forge]

noted
rn i don't have to luxery to do that ig
i only have one virtue it's Iridis shaman

[halcyon thicket]

ah

[viscid forge]

ty though

[halcyon thicket]

np

[naive cloud]

has anyone figured out how to get into this yet?

[fervent quail]

Visually, there's no passage through q after the bonfire. But I didn't try to go through it.

[naive cloud]

I think we're not supposed to tbh, seems like there's an invisible wall blocking higher than the fire

[smoky crater]

it's a dungeon exit

[naive cloud]

Ahh so the fire probably goes out and it opens up on leaving the dungeon

[smoky crater]

yes

[naive cloud]

Kk that makes sense ty xD

[willow geode]

I played this game when it first became playable, but I had to take a break after only a week for some reasons. Now I'm back and I want to start over. I created a new account because I couldn't reset my character, but I can't log in with the new account and I don't have a code. What should I do?

[smoky crater]

if you played it the first time it was playable your old account should be reset

pinned messages has info on how to get access tho

[willow geode]

nope not resetted :/

[smoky crater]

then you didn't play when the game was first playable or even close to that 👀

sooooo yeah, pinned messages got info on how to get access

[willow geode]

btw thx @smoky crater ❤️

[iron falcon]

if im not mistaken seathorn drop from alca 3 star tales right? Cause in the last 2 days I got 0

[fervent quail]

Yes, which are aimed at the dungeon. It seems.

[smoky crater]

seathorn should drop from any factions 3 star tales

[iron falcon]

nvm I just got one XD

[shy fiber]

quick question, how do i steal a soul to activate my rune? i need to "activate" my rune 3 times battle but i dont know how

[pliant stump]

bastians of rebellion (faction quest) is not being completed for me when i go in all the caves. i did it in multi player and he got the credit but i didnt and when i go in the cave theres no npcs or it doesnt update

[wet turtle]

your rune can hold 1 charge. When you Pull Smite something, it should give you a rune charge. Hold spirit vision + heavy attack to use a rune attack

upgrading a rune increases how many charges it can hold (up to 4)

[shy fiber]

and how do i pull smite something? its the stun thing? because it just kills them but doesnt give me anything

[sly escarp]

When they start glowing, hold soul sight and then use your attack keybind

[wet turtle]

when an enemy gets Smited, they flash with a blue, red, or green aura, then you hold spirit vision + light attack to Pull Smite them. It does a lot of damage so it probably will kill them and it should give you a rune charge if you have a rune equipped

[sly escarp]

It will rip the glow out

That is smite

[loud sky]

where can i find goop swamps?

[sly escarp]

Areas on the map that are a whiteish grey

[shy fiber]

bruh, i think im killing them fast enough so they dont glow r something 😅

[sly escarp]

You can Increase your smite chance with certain totems

[loud sky]

bruh I might just start making yt videos on these quests

[sly escarp]

Go for it!

[shy fiber]

i just beat a guy with kicks to the dead and he didnt glow in any moment, looks like i dont have the luck xd

[sly escarp]

Kicks have basically no smite chance...

[shy fiber]

oh

good to know

[naive cloud]

though you CAN increase the kick smite with a totem, just, meh xD

[harsh wraith]

The Garren Rood kick is awesome though

[limber prism]

what long sword are you guys vibing with

i tried ceno, and idk, it aint really clapping

[smoky crater]

all of em

[pliant stump]

Anyone have a bug where they can’t invite players an the ui with the + icon to invite is hidden

[visual radish]

Besides the ones people pointed out there's the one right besides you

[fiery turtle]

yo guys i got a bug or i cant equip nothing new from my invetory from the loot of the stag the first boss?

[dusky socket]

Any of the rapiers are great, beautifully designed moveset. Falx is my favorite just by looks, but Nurash is very strong and the slightly unique animation on one of the swings actually allows for headshots with the blade, haha.

[smoky crater]

answered in #envoy-gathering ....

[fiery turtle]

ty

saw now 🫡

[limber prism]

dewelion is funky. what're your guys thoughts of ceno

[dusky socket]

Takes some getting used to, yeah. Rapiers very much reward fast and precise combat. Ceno is basically just a reskin of Falx and the other standard Longblades, so if you like that moveset then it'll be good.

[cobalt venture]

some of these mechs are kinda confusing i have only thrown my sword once, and frankly i need to use throw weapon to throw grappling hook, mind explaining or possibly making it a bit easier to work

[cobalt venture]

i havent been able to equip anything need that has been unlocked other that small things like the animal skills or whatever

[gusty sky]

the falx itself is mechanically a weaker Marrows bane (cleaver subtype of longsword) normal longswords don't function like the marrow/falx/ceno.

[spare badge]

You basically need to just practice and get used to the weapon throwing. Or, use a bow for the grappling hook things.

[cobalt venture]

im the sword user and currently cant equip any new weapons i have unlocked in my inventory, otherwise that wouldnt be an issue

[spare badge]

Do you actually have them unlocked (built?) or do you just have fragments?

[dusky socket]

Most of them are very similar, just subtle differences in combo strikes and/or positioning of strikes, with "cleavers/falchions" being more vertical and "longswords" being more horizontal, but the actual impact on combat is minimal. Only a few have specific unique animations that do affect combat because of hitboxes 🤷‍♂️

[cobalt venture]

they may be fragments im still new to the game i havent figured out how to build them per say or how many i need to do so]

[modest crater]

Used to be able to put on the paragon and knock them out in two or three kicks for the backstab .. lost the totem set, but is it still huge stagger?

[spare badge]

You'll need Tuvalkane to build weapons. You unlock her from the steelsigner fable. https://wiki.avakot.org/The_Steelsinger

[crimson void]

hey is it ok to ask how to get certain armor sets or ask if there is a certain armor set in QnA

[spare badge]

It's fine to ask anything here, except for codes.

At worst, you'll get linked to a topic or wiki page covering what you asked about.

[crimson void]

ok in that case is there a spirit equivilent to the forgefire and tempest armor sets?

and where would i get it if there is one?

[modest crater]

Is there a way to get into this one or is it something coming.. the other house with spikes cant seem to be able to get up to the third level of spokes but maybe just bad parkour, needs more distance than there appears to be room for

[crimson void]

pretty sure that buildings hollow inside

[modest crater]

Aren't .. most? Xd

[crimson void]

well hollow as in nothing inside at all

[spare badge]

Currently, no. Those 2 were Tempest and Dendrite Leathers before DE renamed stuff, and way before armor got attuments and stats. They were your choice of starting armor, back in the day.

[crimson void]

ah ok

i thought there might have been a spirit equivalent since they were grace and courage aligned respectively

thx for the info

[spare badge]

Way back when you got Fey and Tempest both, and just had choice of starter weapon and armor, it was Dendrite Leathers or Tempest Leathers, and you'd have to farm the other set.

You could post in #1438224662344761345 asking for a third set.

[modest crater]

Any unfilled world eldrichean alcan texturing/geometry force ya.. envoys in game running into sky-boxes with objects laying on them in the distance at the shore: 'this soil.. the world must be paneled in by wood.. or a dome on the outside somehow.. 🤔 (like a glimpse in 1899 in the simulation of the ship with panels they slide out of the air) .. something to tell orlick.'