gameplay-discussion

[dusky socket]

Ahh yeah, bugged then

[finite python]

F
thank you

[lucid dirge]

whats the known locations to fight the pirate after the quest.. i know the silent rose one and the one near mendicant king anyone know another place?

[finite python]

If you open the map with the quest, they are all marked on it. You have to fight the pirate 3 times

[winter prism]

Is the ode tempest's grapple being entirely broken a known thing, or is that just me?

[tawdry yoke]

above othavess and dead centre of the bottom

[lucid dirge]

i finshed the quest.. after the quest i fight him for his gear and sword.. whats the locations to refight him.. same as the quest?

[tawdry yoke]

ive been relogging for ~40 minutes and the ship didnt respawn 🙁

[fierce cedar]

Uh, rq question, how do you start the Turret Jotar siege?

[dusky socket]

Chat, we just crossed the 200 mark 🫡

[wet tulip]

dont think its released yet

[fierce cedar]

GOD DAMMIT I WAS MIXING IT UO

UP WITH MIRIFUIR

[wet tulip]

for mirifuir the entrance is below the castle on the left side

so theres stone stairs leading to a sewers entrance

with the first sub boss that drops the rope attachment

[verbal robin]

it looks like 5 virtue of a single type is the max you can have. Using a twice bless or thrice blessed mora on Purity yields the same damage numbers

[wet tulip]

from there its kinda straight forward. kill boss get key kill boss get key and then fight 3 bosses

[wet tulip]

the higher pips the easier its to use in hybrid builds

[dusky socket]

Well, this has less to do with the number of "attunement pips" and more with the "attunement cap". Patch note says will have the special symbol if 5+, inferring we can have more than 5. But dmg can only scale so high

[verbal robin]

AKA using a thrice-blessed on purity is a waste, twice-blessed is enough to max its dmg

[wet tulip]

Using thrice blessed allows to reach the cap dmg with less courage

Supporting hybrid builds

[verbal robin]

ohh

[honest iris]

Q how i get quests from these rocks?

[dusky socket]

Yeah, everyone saying the joinery update is worthless, but it actually opened the door for proper build customization. Only thing we're missing is 1:1:1 prism, and 3:0:0 prisms

[wet tulip]

True we need even split prism between all virtues

For the true hybrid xD

[dusky socket]

The Tribrid

[verbal robin]

i reforged with thrice blessed and my dmg numbers are much higher than the tooltip said

[wet tulip]

• i wonder how they will bring back the extra effects from joineries

[dusky socket]

The tooltip in the Reforge UI is inaccurate because it doesn't take into account certain factors, and right now it's straight up bugged

[dawn hearth]

does the logout relog trick work after you beat the Duelo and are going for the armor?

[dusky socket]

P15 gear rework, supposedly the baked in RNG stats are going to include some/all of those things.

[sour smelt]

is this how joineries are supposed to work now? i thought that by blessing with a joinerie, the attunement would increase by the respective amount but after blessing it with thrice, it's still showing 3 spirit

[dusky socket]

Seems some of them are bugged, specifically Spirit, and doesn't show. Not sure if it'll show once leveled to 30?

[sour smelt]

i see! guess ill need to wait until its fully leveled to see. Thanks!!

[austere helm]

hi guys, i need a little bit help, i have 0 runes so im basically locked out of progression because of this quest; i did "the torment stag" in co op mode and i heard that only the host gets the rune, is that the issue here? should i contact the support or am i just missing something here

[verbal robin]

my current purity after reforging +3 courage

[visual radish]

You arent locked out, the game's progression isnt that linear

Also runes drop from bosses and the sieges

[austere helm]

yeah but i cant to most bosses because im super weak, should i focus on side missions for now?

also did 2 sieges and got 0 runes too

[sour smelt]

well i guess i'll report mine as a bug then, since it seems to work on other joineries

[visual radish]

A big chunk of account level comes from exploration, unstabbing world trees and revealing location names. And account level means more stat points

[visual radish]

Yeah it is rng

[dusky socket]

You should be guaranteed a rune on a siege if you 1. don't die (includes members of party), and 2. kill ALL enemies inside the fort BEFORE you light the balloon on fire

Often one is missed because it's lurking up on a wall or something, so gotta make sure you run the whole area

[visual radish]

We have no confirmation on any of that afaik

[austere helm]

well step 1 is already a fail since im weak and die in 1-3 hits

ill try to do side missions and exploration for now and when the siege resets in 3 hours ill try again

thanks a lot guys

[dusky socket]

Well, I've done enough sieges to amass 10K (before P14) infamy, and every siege I've done that I followed those rules, I got a rune

So if it's not 100%, it's 99%

[tropic charm]

duelo can drop rune

[dusky socket]

The one time I didn't clear every enemy, but still got an "S" grade, I didn't get a rune, cuz I found one dude hiding in a room after

[dusky socket]

You can also put "X Siege share" in recruiting and, although enemies can get tougher, the Kearnhold Siege is very easy (you can spoof the final boss by standing on the turret structure across from the platform where you burn the balloon and just use range/magick/throws). You'll have help, and also can join their world after and have another shot at it

You can even spoof the second boss downstairs by making it follow you up the steps above where it stands, walk down to the end and stand inside the turret structure, and it won't be able to get to you so it will sort of just wander in a circle and not attack, allowing you to range it

[dawn hearth]

I didn't seem to get anything from doing a duelo after finishing her pact quest? Is it possible to get 0 drops?

[austere helm]

okey, tyty

[tropic charm]

they just dont appear

she can drop her armour + runes

[proper crystal]

welcome to soulfarm

[dawn hearth]

oh okay, so I got the drop it just didn't show up on my hud?

[tropic charm]

yup

[proper crystal]

it's also a possible pre alpha moment

[tropic charm]

i can confirm at least head and chest drop, havent gotten pants

[proper crystal]

how many parts to craft, same 2/4/3?

[tropic charm]

i didnt pay attention :p

i only realised they dropped stuff cause as i was rising tuvalkane did her usual dialogue when u get enough fragments

[opal fable]

i scanned the mendicants in the new dungeon and codex does not say the drop the new shield?

[tropic charm]

from the runs i did, i assume it's 1 helm 2 chest

[tiny idol]

Hi guys, can someone explain to me why the greatswords are not working?

[dusky socket]

The journal entries are not complete. You'll notice other ones that we know drop certain things don't have it on their entry

[brave hatch]

Envoys, help me pick

[proper crystal]

i went with book

[tawdry yoke]

is there someone who just did a duelo but not the one at othavess? trying to figure out if you can reliably taxi it

[tropic charm]

i did 1 like 10 mins ago

rn just finished doing new dungeon

[tawdry yoke]

can we try if you can interact with the sword if you join me then leave? ig name same

[tropic charm]

the othavess sword or my sword?

[tawdry yoke]

othavess, when I invited someone to dupe it who already done it the model was there in the ship, but not interactable, presumably on cooldown

[tropic charm]

messaged u in game

i can interact

want me to inv u before i do it?

[tawdry yoke]

nice it works then, no ty, I'll act as a hub for a bit

[tropic charm]

did the guy have the correct helmet?

[tawdry yoke]

yeah, but he just finished that specific ship

[winter prism]

Do rapiers make it easier to parry or something?

[tropic charm]

different weapons have different parry windows so wouldn't be surprising

[winter prism]

Had a feeling
The timing feels extremely forgiving for them
Which I guess makes some sense

[safe pelican]

I just finished the new fable. Where can I access the rest of the new content?

[tawdry yoke]

new viscii is the new dungeon, the fort is mirifuri, and there are shipwrecks with swords

[tropic charm]

ships u visited to farm duelo for her armour
new siege on the northern castle
new dungeon at new viscii

[safe pelican]

what's new viscii

where can I ifnd it

[safe pelican]

thank u

[steady glen]

Ok so does anyone know did the FINALLY fix ORENGALL.BUGG. ? ITS BEEN HAPPENING for ever so I hope so ...

[regal spire]

I love the new VFXs & AFXs. really great!

[safe pelican]

Is it just these?

[dusky socket]

Which bug is that?

[steady glen]

The one c that crashes the game when using wolves :(.

The wolves are like the basis of the pact so it kind of sucks that we can't have three orangols with 12 wolves or whatever without it crashing

I'd love to be a part of a literal wolf pack

[dusky socket]

Ahh, client overload haha

[steady glen]

I'm going to check it out and see and if not I'm going to DE Steve's house

[dusky socket]

Didn't see anything about it in the patch notes

[steady glen]

Man I hate that I wonder if they will ever even fix it That's kind of discouraging like fix the basic stuff and then do cool new things? Guess I can just hope:)

Guess I'll be a pirate while I wait !

[quick quartz]

ok so i tried out using a ps5 controller on a whim and i'm having some issues with the control scheme?

pressing the big center button (idk what it's called) both opens up the menu and sends me to the nighfold, and the pause button very briefly opens and then closes the menu

ok it keeps it open as long as i hold it?

nvm not anymore, it's back to closing immediatelly

the controller settings dont seem to have anything wrong

[knotty moon]

The note is stuck on the tree.

[still violet]

Question regarding the Avex: do the totems that do stuff like reduce enemy armor with arrow hail do anything?

[dusky socket]

Would assume not, since there's no arrow hail with Avex.

[wind ether]

Avex. Hit headhsot and forget. chad bow ngl.

[dawn hearth]

what is the best place for moranite? I've been looking for it and only found like 3

[proper crystal]

which of the ships can you fight the boss at after the quest

[dusky socket]

Moranite most commonly drops from Dendrit (flower) chests. There's not really any fast way to farm them, but they can be found inside the Glades and Undercity dungeons. They spawn more commonly in Undercity, but there's way more areas to search through.

There are also a few spawns around the starting location, you can go find them, relog, and go find some more.

Let me pull up the map

iirc, chests often spawn in this general area, specifically near the circles

But I don't go over there often anymore XD

[dawn hearth]

Alright, thank you

[proper crystal]

uh, i think the duelo boss just oneshot me with the gun?

i didn't get any fragments

and i didn't block it because i needed just one hit

[tropic charm]

cutscene or basic gun attack?

[proper crystal]

there was a cutscene

so just no fragment?

[tropic charm]

was the gun part of the cutscene?

[proper crystal]

she shot me and then there was a cutscene

where she shot me again

[tropic charm]

then u won

[proper crystal]

okay so just no drop, cool

[tropic charm]

i assume u r doing the quest and u still not finished?

[proper crystal]

no, i finished

[tropic charm]

then yeah u got fragment but it's a ui bug

[proper crystal]

none in my inventory

[tropic charm]

then u likely got a fragment for an old weapon

[proper crystal]

wait what can it drop

[tropic charm]

no idea for specific drops, but ik that even her armour doesnt appear in the ui

[austere helm]

is there a good interactive map online? a lot of ppl said the one on avakot is good but it doesnt seem to be loading at all

[proper crystal]

how so?

[dawn hearth]

what is this mora ghost guy I can only see in spirit mode? in an undercity dungeon

[austere helm]

it takes forever to load, and i get errors on how the map doesnt exist

[proper crystal]

which version are you trying to load

[covert shadow]

guys - how can i bond with wandering soul in torment stag?

it's not letting me do it

[austere helm]

i tried all versions atp

[proper crystal]

what browser are you using?

[austere helm]

vivaldi

[tropic charm]

q + light attack

this is soul steal, smite, and animal charming

[proper crystal]

that's probably the issue then

[covert shadow]

ty - but it doesn't do it - like there's an issue - i tried with keyboard and mouse - then with controller - nada

[visual radish]

whatever page you are looking at is outdated

[austere helm]

i dont think so, i tried also on safari on my phone and its having the same problems

[tropic charm]

are you aiming at the wondering soul?

[visual radish]

fenn doesnt even join the nightfold anymore

[tropic charm]

not orlick

[covert shadow]

yup

[proper crystal]

wait you're on your phone?

no wonder it's not working

[covert shadow]

i'm planning to log out and log back in

[tropic charm]

could u try recording what u r doing and posting here?

[covert shadow]

yes, will try

[tropic charm]

kinda hard to tell if we r missing something with just words

[austere helm]

i tried pc too

[proper crystal]

oh wait, it's not working for me either

it's probably just down rn

[austere helm]

the website just looks so vibe coded to me ngl

[dapper sigil]

anyone elses virtue pips dont turn gold as announced?

when going over five?

[proper crystal]

send pic

[granite spade]

how to get an S rank with Mirifuir? kill them all? is there a hidden puzzle ?

[proper crystal]

kill everything and don't die

[dapper sigil]

dont die

[teal steeple]

I have gotten 15 Nettles from this Wyrm!

[granite spade]

I cleared a couple without dying but I ignored lots of enemies. Thx 😄

[dawn hearth]

Damn... whole undercity for 2 moranite

[tawdry yoke]

the sword and shield DOES spawn, right?

only have that thing left, so I'm running the dungeon's entrance constantly now

[warm night]

It does drop, just super low rate. I've got one fragment for it so far.

[tropic charm]

trash/bugged drop rates tend to be a trend with new prelude updates

DE also tends to be alergic to making decent drop tables but thats a topic for another day

[kind dune]

How do i start the new fable?

[sly escarp]

Personally chalk it up to testing. They pad drop tables for new activities a bit to have players do more runs so they can find more bugs and gather more testing data. They seem to usually go back and tidy it up in later hot fixes...except when they don't.

[sly escarp]

Explore shipwrecks with soulsight

[dusky socket]

Be sure to run to the second spawn room, both because it can spawn 1-3 knights, and because most of the fragments I've heard about, including mine, dropped in that second spawn. They all have a res stone so it's easy to get back to entrance

The bird will guide you, but if it tries to go to the entrance, means the next room is up/down a level

[floral palm]

Hewwo guys! I’ve been scrolling through the feedback section and saw a lot of people complaining about runes being activated by heavy attacks, but I saw very few people actually saying how bad they’ve become. What do you guys think? Did the runes really need such a major downgrade just to have charges?

Or maybe it's just me who thinks the runes have gotten worse, maybe they've actually gotten better idk

[tawdry yoke]

using the longsword fire rune it seems better/more fun

the dagger/bow rune was straight up overpowered

[floral palm]

i agree

[tropic charm]

this is mostly a nerf to heavy attack oriented weapons, as well as slightly underleveled gear

[floral palm]

flitsmoke?

[sly escarp]

Flitsmoke was a bit much, yeah

And Torrent was...a problem for balance

[verbal vector]

mount

[dusky socket]

Some of them are terrible, like bows and flitsmoke. Some are WAY more powerful now. I think it removed a lot of the jankiness and gave us way more control and interactive combat, but having it tied to charged attacks is what kills it. If it was it's own keybind and didn't require an attack to activate, I think we'd hear a much different response.

[verbal vector]

oops I wrote in chat... I was trying to search on the search function..

[tropic charm]

i need to actually do the cogah 1 day to get the interesting runes 😭

[dusky socket]

The answer is, there are no mounts yet XD

[floral palm]

yeah, I agree that both of them were really broken, but now they aren't runes

[tropic charm]

not yet, no real info

[verbal vector]

Yeah was trying to check, appreciate it

[sly escarp]

Not yet

[knotty imp]

remove the stupid kick input and replace that one with rune activation, then just have kick as a contextual action

[sly escarp]

They said goal was by end of year and more info about it to be announced at Tennocon!

[floral palm]

completely

[verbal vector]

Exciting

[dusky socket]

I tend to agree. It sounds cool to build combat with kicks involved, but if al it does is just slight knockback and maybe some synergy, seems pointless.

[granite spade]

what has replaced Torrent 😛 ?

[opal fable]

are lyke-wake parts even real, ive run this stupid dungeon like 30 times and i have 0 parts

[dusky socket]

It's fairly similar, charged attack causes more arrows

[floral palm]

But these new runes that deal a single instance of damage and consume a charge even if you miss are pretty bad too

[knotty imp]

simply put, runes are way more important than something like kick for having dedicated inputs

[dusky socket]

My friend....I'm at 278 and I have 1/2 hahaha

[opal fable]

how many of the new sword parts do you have lmao

[floral palm]

when you perform a charged attack, it fires a single Hail of Arrows that deals 50% of the damage of the normal hail of arrows

[dusky socket]

I have 1 of 2 fragments needed

[opal fable]

yeah for the shield thingy, but how many for the cenotaph do you have

[dusky socket]

Oh, I have 2 copies now, but for farming shield you don't kill boss, you just go to first two enemy spawns, then back out the entrance

[sly escarp]

Good. Now to nerf Hail of Arrows damage too.

[opal fable]

oh

i have just been running the dungeon

[floral palm]

what?

[dusky socket]

I feel like Arrow Hail should be a Pact Skill

[sly escarp]

Mostly just feel Hail of Arrows is a bit overtuned.

Has been a long time.

[knotty imp]

sirin buff maybe lul

[dusky socket]

Not a weapon skill, especially since we already have Avex and will probably have more unique bows without arrow hail

[sly escarp]

Said mostly in jest, but a slight nerf to it would be fine.

[dusky socket]

No, seriously, that would be such a good change to Sirin 3. Whips out a magic bow, rains some holy arrows down

[sly escarp]

And maybe Torrent can come out of jail a bit. It should be a bit stronger than a normal hail of arrows for sure.

[knotty imp]

i mean , off topic, but sirin in general is terrible other than for its pickpocket passive

[opal fable]

oh does pickpockting still work, i fly up to unaware enemies in butterfly but nothing happens

[sly escarp]

It would be better if the taunt worked properly

[dusky socket]

Yeah, the taunt barely works

[knotty imp]

also iirc, sirin 1 sometimes doesn't even properly cc mobs

[dusky socket]

And it looks.......special

[sly escarp]

The bobblehead was certainly a choice.

It used to not have it, tbh think it looked better

[knotty imp]

what's even more hilarious is that one of the duello passives that leaves a clone on perfect dodge seems to pull aggro better than sirin 2

[dusky socket]

Would be nice if they made it an actual mini-NPC with a small HP bar and light damage so it could pull aggro for a bit, take a few hits, interact, let you setup headshots and back stabs

[knotty imp]

tbh no , i highly disagree with decoys that have hp bars cuz that usually leads to any mob that is not low level just instakilling it, making the whole thing useless ( loki decoy pre-rework )

[dusky socket]

True, true. So x the HP bar and just put it on a timer

[knotty imp]

1 thing they could do is perhaps make it like ivara's noise arrow, to basically lead mobs into a specific direction

[dusky socket]

Hell, could make it a little rat you summon/toss out there like a Pokemon, boom

[knotty imp]

The larger issue with a pact like sirin though , is the game currently doesn't really have any content that requires/strongly advises use of stealth

[dusky socket]

Yeah, nothing is difficult enough lol

[floral palm]

Is there any way to deal damage with this ability without using the old rune? Because I've never seen it deal damage, but then again, I've never used a bow for very long or invested in one Only my friend has played as archer, and he feels like this ability doesn't deal any damage at all

[hazy bane]

Is there a cooldown on dueling on the boat? I get nothing from it

[sly escarp]

If you invest heavily in Grace it can be nasty. The hail arrows can headshot which, considering the AoE, can be brutal.

[knotty imp]

there are def things that can deal dmg waaaaay more obscene than arrow rain on bows

[cloud palm]

Siege mirifuir is so unfair

[opal fable]

do people have an estimate what the drop chances for the maestro armor is?

[dusky socket]

It's probably going to become more of a utility skill, but they'll need to adjust some totems to make it fit that role better

[knotty imp]

speaking of 'nerfed' runes, arcstorm has no sauce anymore, just deals more dmg

[floral palm]

the only thing I really think is overpowered about the bow now is that headshots are way too strong. my friend started playing, picked up a bow, and was dealing more damage than I was with a 30 Spirit build

[dusky socket]

And Hollowing is better against single target but lost all of it's crowd work XD

[untold snow]

this may be a dumb questiuon. Is Virinja currently bugged?

the bird wants to go inside a unclimable wall

[floral palm]

apparently, magick weapons are boring and useless

[knotty imp]

rune changes definetly did not do them any favours

[sly escarp]

Tbh that has more to do with Grace

[dusky socket]

Eh, I'd honestly say they're kinda in the same boat as they were, just changed the way you have to use them. Before it was more about proc smite, spam light attacks, use heavies to open and finish

[sly escarp]

Grace increases headshot and stealth damage as an effect of having more of it.

[dusky socket]

Now it's all about heavy attacks and heavy attacks only

[sly escarp]

So bows, which already scale with grace and have high headshot multipliers, then gets that boost on top.

[dusky socket]

And stealth multiplier on top of that

And now with Runes you can deal even more dmg....XD

[floral palm]

yep

[knotty imp]

the fire runes on melee and that mistgale one are great now, though

[dusky socket]

Mistgale is so much better, even follows the terrain, instead of being this auto-aimed swirly bird of death, except for the part where it never wants to hit the right things

[floral palm]

but those runes that only deal damage might be overpowered, but they're not fun...

[knotty imp]

fun is subjective anyway

[floral palm]

I wanted the runes to do different things, so I could build different strategies around them

[dusky socket]

I mean, I do like that for a lot of it there's one direct damage rune, and one utility style rune

[carmine cypress]

Could you clarify: I’ve completed the questline for the new Pact. As I understand it, I can now fight duelists at three locations on the map, right? I tried, but in the end he kills me with a pistol, even though I have a lot of health.

[knotty imp]

these changes do make me wonder if maybe we had a version of this system from it's very first iteration ( idols )

[dusky socket]

Greatsword is a perfect example: Everflame is amazing for bosses, but terrible for lots of mobs cuz it's wasted on them. Treefell is terrible for bosses, but great for groups of enemies

[halcyon thicket]

That's how it always ends

[carmine cypress]

but zerro drop...

[floral palm]

Yeah, but I've always found Cogah runes more interesting because they weren't just about “adding damage”. Dealing damage is fun, obviously, but when it's like that, building a character becomes really boring

I think that just dealing damage is a bit of a cheap way to cover everything

[knotty imp]

Flitsmoke alone is a better sirin than the entirety of sirin in terms of being a stealthy rogue playstyle

[dusky socket]

Well, in the future we will have status effects, more than likely, so runes that add some damage but also proc status will instantly become utility as much as the other runes

[floral palm]

I'm not talking about complicated min-maxing like in Warframe, but I don't know. Just adding 100% Arcanic damage to my weapon isn't that exciting

[floral palm]

🙏

[tight trout]

is there any way to shoulder swap in this?
Camera angle is killer

[dense burrow]

are there 3 new runes? or just a visual bug?

[knotty imp]

but yea i do agree i wanna see less everflames and more flitsmokes in terms of what runes do

[floral palm]

But I’m not a fan of broken mechanics, just interesting ones, different mechanics. Not to mention that Sirin’s default basic skill set is terrible

[dusky socket]

Press V?

[tight trout]

YOU ARE A GOD SEND

[dusky socket]

Just a visual bug, probs the ghost of the future

I hope they recognize that they need to remove multiplicative damage. It's going to just turn this into a reskinned WF

Keep it simple, give us flat amounts we can track and that can runaway and become exploitable

[carmine cypress]

Should i use only new pakt and rapira to get loot? or any other tricks?

[halcyon thicket]

No tricks

[tight trout]

Dude, that return-to-home mechanic? :Chefskiss:

[knotty imp]

true, can still have big number without hitting the integer limit number

[dusky socket]

And falls more in line with the style and flow of what Soulframe is. We're using bows and swords in a fantasy world, we don't need to make things go kaboom

[opal fable]

comleted the mestra armor set on the third run around the island, man this sucked

[knotty imp]

and if they keep putting that off for later cus 'its too complicated' here, then we'll never have meaningful endgame content since we'll just blast through eveerything with out runes and such

[dusky socket]

Come join me in the wakey wakey hunt XD

[opal fable]

the fights with the mestra are cool, but the running around is just so boring

[knotty imp]

which is why when they added in something like the hollowing i was like ' well damn i guess we are back in the ol origin system with this one boys '

[sudden acorn]

how do i play thia game
like whay do i have to do

[obsidian prairie]

Anyone know why the Garren Rood pact is so much more expensive to craft than Bromius or Orengall?

[sly escarp]

One of the older pacts to craft, probably just hasn't been adjusted in a while

[obsidian prairie]

Ah, bummer. Back to the mines I go....

[tawdry yoke]

Yooo, I got my first sword and shield shard $$$

[calm crown]

Question that may have been answered: after completing the original Duelo quest, do we have to wear the headband every time we want to do those fights? If so, will using it as Transmog be enough? Seems crazy to just give up that much armor every time.

[tawdry yoke]

You need it to interact with the swords, yes, can't answer the transmog part

[trail ether]

They should really make the rune usage Soulsight + Heavy attack

[dusky socket]

Or just put it on it's own keybind and remove the heavy attack requirement

[smoky crater]

or... imagine how it used to be... spectralsight+light attack

back in the pact ult ability days

[dusky socket]

Hopefully the gods were kind to you and didn't make you do 100+ runs for it?

[tawdry yoke]

:_)

[dusky socket]

Bahahahahaha, this is the way

[tawdry yoke]

I don't count them, but about 3 hours in

[plain isle]

i apologize if this question has been asked a million times already. where can you farm the fragments for any of the new weapons?

[dusky socket]

3 hours ain't too bad 🙏

[tawdry yoke]

one is from the new fable, two are from the fort north, two are from the new dungeon south east

[plain isle]

thank you so much

[tawdry yoke]

we will see how long the second frag takes xD

[dusky socket]

Don't hold your breath haha

[smoky crater]

https://klipy.com/gifs/75-years-later-spongebob

[dusky socket]

It's now past the point where I won't be excited, won't even feel accomplished once I get my second frag. Just...ashamed XD

[winter prism]

I feel like the rapier's ground finisher has me stabbing every other sinecure between the legs
Poor lads

[calm crown]

Will Mestra's helmet count for starting the fights?

[trim oriole]

Anyone got any of the new stuff from Mirifuir?

i done 12 and only grinn and unsula everytime

[clever harbor]

I’m trying to host for the new Siege, but every time I invite someone, no one shows up. Is something wrong?

[calm crown]

one fragment each for the staff and espadarte

[dusky socket]

Did you get S grade, and did you make sure to kill every enemy in the fort?

[calm crown]

oh and one for the cenotaph

[trim oriole]

it does this thing where it says objective is complete and noone can join, need to relog

[trim oriole]

yes

[dusty hare]

you cant see how many pips you have after the 5th

[trim oriole]

glod edged pip =5

[dusty hare]

glod edged pip also = 6

[halcyon sky]

Is Ode Tempest actually the weakest pact now? I've heard about some nerfs, but last I knew it was op

[smoky crater]

not really?

[dusky socket]

Sirin is the weakest lol

[smoky crater]

well i wouldn't say that either

[halcyon sky]

Oh yea.. aside from that

[smoky crater]

it's like a 4 or 5 way tie for a lot of em

[trim oriole]

tempest is dodo cause it doesnt work on boss enemies

otherwise it would still be decent

[dusky socket]

But it does have fairly decent passive utility

[dusty hare]

weakest pact tierlist

[dusky socket]

Honestly...Bromius is actually the weakest, because like......yeah XD

[calm crown]

Try Bromius with even virtues and play magic weapons. It actually feels pretty decent.

and wear the mockery armor

[halcyon sky]

Unfortunate lol as I remember grinding hours in the faction for it

That and igne mora were the few things I remember actually having to grind to get

[dusky socket]

But it's like...other than a decent armor buff...it can't actually do much especially in boss fights

[tawdry yoke]

nope

[calm crown]

Yeah, they nerfed the rump thump wayyyyy too hard

[dusky socket]

Is fun to use to scale forts, though

[calm crown]

Are people struggling to get the Mestra's Helm? It was the first armor piece that dropped for me from the new activity

Gotta wait until later to try it on

[blissful dune]

has anyone found anything with rovgot while wearing the pensive set? ive been looking but i havent seen anything. maybe the patch notes were just trolling

[dusky socket]

Just put it on since I'm chained to the ruins right now lol

[sinful scarab]

you see what i see?

[opal fable]

ah, the man in the wall

[peak jackal]

guys can you only reforge your weapon once or more?

[atomic lynx]

reforge as many times as you want, but if you use thrice blessed it reset to level 0

[peak jackal]

does it stack?

[sweet sapphire]

Is ode tempest gravitate broken again? I can’t sling to anyone even when standing on top of them

[sinful scarab]

so in new dungeon there’s some enemies rarely spawn they have two handed weapons, could the sword and shield drops from them and not the regular sword/mace and shield enemies?

-# no i’m not losing my mind

[dusky socket]

People have said (and I tend not to trust it because I know how little people actually pay attention) that they've also gotten it from the shield knights. But I definitely am leaning towards it being the 2h guy, and they forgot to code in that the shield guys can drop it, and the 2h guy spawns like 5% of the time

[sinful scarab]

exactly, now we just need to prove it

[finite stone]

That's how it works yes https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1495184390228017343

[woeful star]

Anyone else having real trouble judging the parry window for the new boss?

[dusky socket]

Well, I called it lol

[pastel verge]

Ah. Just like a true soul boss

[woeful star]

See normally I'd just dodge rather than parry, but that ain't working for el-capitan

[sinful scarab]

nice, thanks

@finite stone here's your reward

[finite stone]

Rovgot Ruins 😋

[tardy crater]

Are you not guaranteed a reward when you complete a duelo? I just did one and got literally nothing.

To be clear, I was wearing the ribbon

[warm pebble]

you do the first 3 to get the pact and a weapon after that more are meant to appear to get the armor parts but i cant find any appearing

[patent palm]

anyone having an issue with burning sage quest follow Rorich's trail trough salzbrim no progressing? (relogged restarted etc)

oh nvm had to find a piece of paper

[warm night]

Got Lyke-Wake. Some.. 60 or 70 runs of the dungeon in total.

[worn sundial]

It's sad the rapier is not its own type and has the best looking animations of all melee weapons

[pastel verge]

Anyone using Mora's Hand? I think the passive is broken~

[candid badge]

how does one learn a rune?

[dire helm]

Yeah I'm absolutely not doing that. lol
Good job!

[warm night]

Yeah, that was a lot of runs to get it. I don't blame you for avoiding it

[tardy crater]

Either by getting one to drop from an Agari boss or by doing a siege.

[candid badge]

thanks, lol, that means it's going to be a while.

I'm very new and don't know much of the game, just learning mechasnics

[floral coral]

is closed

is asedium or not?

[smoky crater]

W.I.P. place yes

[floral coral]

W.I.P?

[finite stone]

acronym for Work In Progress

[floral coral]

OOOOH ok thanks for information

[vital ember]

can we get the staff and rapier any other way than the new siege? and is fort kernhold the fastest way to farm dewellion shards?

[drowsy roost]

hey yall is there a particular world tree that gives the highest level sparrow tales most often?

[peak jackal]

top tree

[drowsy roost]

thank you

thats what i assumed but wanted to check

[peak gust]

Hey all where do I find the location to the rovtgot worm is it in the mendicant corrupted zone or the one in the north?

[dusky socket]

Southeast, inside the fallen tower

[tawdry yoke]

Look at him taunting me...

[dusky socket]

Today could be your lucky day

[tawdry yoke]

it wasnt

[magic gorge]

Did they remove the old 2 strike counter for one handed sword after a parry? Now it looks like the normal strikes. Also Dewelion one handed sword uses rapier animation now?

[peak gust]

Ty

[dusky socket]

I'm on my 14th 2h knight now........been at this for over 12hrs XD

Well, not true, 14th since we figured out the new strat lol

[tawdry yoke]

oh, what is it?

[dusky socket]

Run past everything, get to second spawn area, use spectral sight to see if 2h guy is there, if no, dip

Some people using Orengall werewalker

[tawdry yoke]

that is mostly what I do, although I do need xp so sometimes I clear

[tough acorn]

Is there anything that drops from the duels other than mestra armor? Thinking I’m finally going to use some of my founders plat…

[dusky socket]

Can drop Runes

[still violet]

Wait, am I forgetful or weren't the hybrid prisms rank 3 to get?

[celest yacht]

Rank 2 for full virtue prism and has always been 4 for Hybrids

[blissful dune]

anyone know a good way to farm scrap brass?

[pure shoal]

is there a way to get the kith of kings talisman?

[dusky socket]

Fort Curlail has a lot of weapon racks around back and inside

[blissful dune]

yeah i was headed out that way

[kind narwhal]

is there an official wiki that shows all the enemies jw

[finite stone]

No wiki is 'official' as that would require DE affiliation, but https://wiki.avakot.org/ is the up to date Soulframe wiki

[kind narwhal]

cool

[finite stone]

Yes! All talismans in the game are obtainable (except technically the prelude honour, anyone without it will get it when P15 drops)

If the one you're after is medallion of mora, its drop source and crafting requirements are on https://wiki.avakot.org/Medallion_of_Mora

[tawdry yoke]

@dusky socket you still running?

[native drum]

I have not touched this game in like 3 months anything apart from classes changed?

[finite stone]

yep! an insane amount has changed

[dusky socket]

Literally just dropped lol. Apparentle the shield mendicant CAN drop fragments as long as they are one of the static spawns

[tawdry yoke]

so basically just farm the second room

[native drum]

oh really damn maybe I should start playing again

[dusky socket]

Yup, can ignore the Wyrms.

[still violet]

Okay, so I just misremembered lol

[native drum]

wait does crafting still take like 3-10 real life days?

[opal fable]

The 2 handed thrall that sometimes spawns has the best chance of lyke-wake parts?

[dusky socket]

No idea about "best chance", all we know is that 2h or shield can drop, as long as it's one of the static spawns

If it pops out the ground like an Artemis Fowl dwarf, ignore it

[opal fable]

So i just kill all thralls just in case up to the boss and run back out?

I dont mind the slight time loss for killing the extras for xp

[dusky socket]

No no, skip the first spawn room, run through to the second one, as you enter hold spectral sight, kill the mendicants that were already in the room before you walked in

Or just kill everything in second spawn, works too

[opal fable]

Oh that would explain why i got no drops at all, i was farming only the first spawn room

[dusky socket]

Oh, Bake-n-Wake, how I have longed for thee!

[opal fable]

1 more staff part and the shield and i have everything again

[blissful dune]

does static spawn mean that they don't come out of the ground?

[dusky socket]

Yeah, means they're already there before you walk in

[cloud palm]

Anybody knows where Orlick's dorm is in Lummins? I cant find it

[warm night]

It's not actually in lumins. It's one of the houses right next to the college of pensives.

[spare badge]

Look on your map.

The map shows a circle with a book, which is a fable destination. Your bird will guide you there, and Orlik will pop up when you get there.

[cloud palm]

Ohhhhh!

Thx!

[tidal vigil]

Hey is there a set number of animals you need to charm to complete their journal entries?

[halcyon sky]

Do the new rapier weapons have their own weapon art?

[visual radish]

No

Long sword yet again

[spare badge]

I think like with cleavers, someone said that DE might be waiting for the big artes rework to split up some of the things like magic weapons and longblades.

[rigid kite]

How do you use Lightning Strike and Gravitate for the Ode arm?

[radiant galleon]

hey does anyone know what exactly grace effects in terms of envoy scaling? The description mentions sneak attacks and headshots

but does it possibly also effect the perfect dodge attacks?

im wondering how to spec duelo pact

[dusky socket]

It does not affect dodges

[halcyon sky]

Lightning strike should activate on ground finishers, gravitate is pretty buggy rn

[calm crown]

Does re-logging change the distribution of swords in shipwreck sites?

[sudden lotus]

does anyone know how the flintlock scales with each stat

[peak jackal]

trying to do orlicks quest a title where you go to the top of pensive college tower but nothing is happening is this a non bugged quest?

known

[stable umbra]

Lightning activates when you stagger enemy and use the finisher
Gravitate replaces your Kick, unless you're right next to enemy

[radiant galleon]

courage makes it do more damage

[vital ember]

where's the fallen skytower dungeon?

[verbal nebula]

on the ground, it's fallen

[sullen fox]

Alright genuine question, how are y'all handling the new fight? Because I legitimately cant keep up, it feels like they deal a lot of damage per hit, and boy do they hit often

[vital ember]

like for the quest?

[sullen fox]

Yeah, the Duelos

[verbal nebula]

How much armor you got ?

[sullen fox]

Good question

Looks like 15, since it forces me to wear the ribbon

15 physical i mean

[verbal nebula]

That's your issue right there

[sullen fox]

14 stability

[verbal nebula]

Get yourself a better gear boasting high level and armor and focus on it's vituer attunement to earn more bonuses, and then, you can factank the boss without moving

[sullen fox]

Noted, related then, where does one find armor fragments?

Its been quite a while, I have a couple of fragment for Garren Rood, and one for the fire kings plackart and Orengall chestpiece, but the game has changed quite a bit it seems, and I'm not seeing where to replay quests or anything

Heck, cant even find Nimrod anymore

[verbal nebula]

It's either spam the same boss over and over ; or get some parts at Enclaves (factions)

[sullen fox]

Ah! Found the replay fable button

It was small

[verbal nebula]

that not going to drop you gear though

[sullen fox]

Oh, well then, any advice on where to go for the bosses from said fables?

[verbal nebula]

So, the Stag ?

[sullen fox]

Sure, if thats the only one that drops armor fragments

Again, its been a good while

[verbal nebula]

Soulframe has a day and night cycle, day is 30mn, night is 15mn ; and during the night you can find in some specific places (always the same) some "pools of corruptions" ; they are often either on the sides of the map, or in big corrupted places (goey grey landscape) ; and in those "pool of corruptions" can spawn either Stag or Bear bosses to kill for their gear

[sullen fox]

Much appreciated

[verbal nebula]

So what you do

is thta you just play around, yaddi yadda, and when you notice it's night, just aim for on of those corrupted places

If you start hearing battle music and see a boss bar with stag or bear, just look around for a specific spot with bubbles and fumes and get close to it and the boss with get out of the ground right there

then, die, die, die, kill the boss, and note on your map where it is, and every night, you can go there again

Try to make yourself a sort of "farm route" from A to B for reasons and find the most optimal pool of corruption on the way that fits in, and eventually, you'll get all the gear you need from them both

Eventually but also very rarely, while doing Faction tales from World trees, you can end up having to fight one of them ; and while it's welcome to do this boss fight from time to time if you are not really looking for their pieces, that's not really a viable strategy to get all the parts

[fast reef]

you can find good videos on farm routes for bosses

but you cant just grind 1 boss, because they have a 30 min respawn timer

[dusty hare]

theres like no spirit weapons

[verbal nebula]

For the armor rating in Duelos' fight, I have 40 physical armor and 400 health ; while wearing the ribbon ; and it seems to me that the Duelo should be doing something like 50 damage before armor reduction, so 10 damage after. On a pool of 400, getting hit by 10 damage is 2,5% of health loss, which is resplenished instantly by my next hit thanks to innate health recovery of melee attacks ; and I would eventually die after 40 hits if i'm afk.

If you go there with like 15 physical armor and 300hp (wild guess) ; and you get hit by 50 damage before reduction, that ends up being 35 damage after reduction, which is ~12% of your max health pool, and you die in 9 hits.

So yeah, armor is important.

[swift schooner]

Wait wait, are we guaranteed a mestro armour set frag from doing the duelos? Or is there a chance to not even get a frag?

Just realised I've done like 4 with no frag, and I just got a Forburn rune from one instead.

[dusty hare]

more like fartos

[lean axle]

sup guys i stopped playing on prelude 8... are there mounts yet? ?

[onyx belfry]

Nope

[verbal nebula]

it's random rewards, and not guaranteed

[lean axle]

awe 🥀, anyone discovered any new movement tech yet?

[grave valley]

does ghost ship have cooldown for spawn

[grave valley]

theyre called wevetseeds

lolll

welcome back though envoy, have you enjoyed the new content so far?

[iron temple]

Is there a map of valid duel wreck spots yet? I checked them all on the west coast with spirit sight and the blue duel ribbon on and there was none spawned...

I went a from Mirifuir all the way down just south of Birdies Bog before teleporting into a Mirifuir siege group... 😅

[lean axle]

i havent opened the game since prelude 8 maybe its time to jump back into the grinder

[grave valley]

maybe

which faction did you choose

or was that p8? i dont remember

[dim prism]

anyone have video of how the new system work for building ?

[iron temple]

It was 8 or 9 when that happened. I joined in 7. Faction tales were originally one objective sparrow tales before factions were a thing... 😅

[grave valley]

ik it was so nice

im a p6 guy

the orengall grind was truly painful

[iron temple]

Ah so you got to witness Pact Idols when they could be swapped? 😅👍

[grave valley]

i got to witness many things

I was one of the players who used fey with its idol to do like thousands of damage

[nova vault]

This I want to know what they do >.<

[iron temple]

At the end of Preludes 13, SaraLovesArchery managed to do 100,000 with Juniper headshot (potion, howl, and bestone buffed with Tethren Fellust I beleive) and 275,000 to the enemy next to it with the rat totem (got patched in Preludes 14 I think)...

[grave valley]

yeah i saw

that bug was also there when totems first released

i remember using bestone and doing lots of damage with that bug

[grave valley]

like the little sineculem and others

[iron temple]

I guess part of the bug was a double dipping thing... 😅

[kind narwhal]

If I make a bow my primary is it possible to have a short sword as a secondary Incase enemies get to close

[grave valley]

i think what it was is the bestone scaled the damage of the other bestone rather than scaling the percentage of the original damage before the bestone buff

so yeah double dipping would be an appropriate term

[iron temple]

Yes there are dual daggers and single daggers as sidearms. They count as short blades and there is a variety of them. 😄

[grave valley]

yup

[kind narwhal]

Ya

I got my first fragment for my bow

I was just worried I wouldn't be able to have a blade for defense

ATM I'm using precklies

[dim prism]

where the new thing at ?

[kind narwhal]

And long sword

[iron temple]

If you want dual bladed sidearm short blades rather than single, the only option currently is Clivers... 😅

[lean axle]

since when was there side arms? i rember just being a bow guy and just parrying when enemies come close lol

[kind narwhal]

I have a duel blades crafted I just need to rank them up

[iron temple]

It is likely what you want is single blade dagger sidearm Witan or Grinn depending on what virtues you want... 😻

[kind narwhal]

Ye

[half talon]

Times have changed. We’ve had side arms for a while. There’s been quite a few updates. I suggest reviewing patch notes from the last few major updates you missed.

[kind narwhal]

Shame they didn't do the 3 weapon slots like warframe

[iron temple]

I think sidearms have been around since around Preludes 9... 😅

[kind narwhal]

Warframe allows u to have a main weapon a secondary then side arm like a pistol

[half talon]

Plus melee

[kind narwhal]

Yea

The melee would be ur primary or secondary

[half talon]

But yeah it wouldn’t really work here though.

[kind narwhal]

Yea True

[iron temple]

Maybe Preludes 10 at the latest...

[half talon]

Why carry all these weapons…

[kind narwhal]

The rang on precklies is amazing

[calm crown]

Does the title of your envoy book matter?

[kind narwhal]

I can hit enemies pretty far away

[iron temple]

So far it is cosmetic only...

[iron temple]

I did notice the terms seem to suggest architype specific RP elements but so far it is just flavor...

[iron temple]

I chose "Healer's Handbook" because I play an Oscelda courage paladin battlemage support build! 😄

[calm crown]

I went Chronicles of Carnage cuz my Oscelda Staff-wielder loves shattering MFers. 😉

[iron temple]

I'm one of those Thrown Gathannan plus Basker's Wrest fire folks! 😄

[calm crown]

Nice combo. I have another build that's Oscelda polearm

[iron temple]

Basker's Wrest makes for a great dungeon torch when looting far deep dark corners while avoiding getting ambushed! 😄

[calm crown]

Yep, guarding makes your own little lantern

[iron temple]

2 Days ago I jumped in the darkest bedroom in Dermak Undercity side area I've ever seen and was instinctively swinging my Purity Greatsword when it happened. Luckily they were more surprised then me when it happened as they only managed to act surprised and start drawing their weapon as I one shot them with Purity in the dark by the bed!... 🤣😻👍

So I guess I did the ambushing blind! 😄

[boreal ledge]

Question on the thrice blessed joinery can you only change it when it’s a maxed ranked weapon?

[iron temple]

To a thrice blessed yes, from one it doesn't matter its all about what you are changing too...

[boreal ledge]

What does it do when it’s a gold courage attunement for example?

[nova vault]

so the quest reward is just faction tokens?

[sinful scarab]

how far does a new player have to play to be able to see location names and motes?

[nova vault]

You have to collect the motes in each area to reveal the name, it's not something revealed automatically.

[cloud palm]

Anybody know how to suceed this? I got a sproutfolk seed and I answered the correct answer yet it doesnt work

[nova vault]

just pick all three, one will work and you're in, you won't be locked out.

[sinful scarab]

i know, but none of the locations appear on map or does the cryptic name pop up when I enter the area

i think they broke it with Orlick new changes

[kind narwhal]

Do weapons have a rank vap

Cap

[half talon]

30

[nova vault]

when you're at an area with a name, the first time you'll enter and see the nonsense letters. Those are the areas you collect motes in to reveal the name. Most locations are named, but not necessarily all of them at this point. Is there somewhere specific you're trying to get a name for?

[kind narwhal]

Ah will that ever change

I wonder

[half talon]

Prolly not. Aligns with Warframe.

[kind narwhal]

Is warframe 30 also

[half talon]

Yes

[kind narwhal]

Ah

I forgot haven't played in awhile

[half talon]

Well, it gets complicated but mostly yes.

[nova vault]

until we can forma our weapons to add extra ducks and some super ode weapons will have a cap of 40 for some weird reason XD.

[lean axle]

i just logged in and wtf was i farming at the time to have 89 copies of vasp-iv 😭

[half talon]

Runes, in their own way, add bonus totem slots. And joineries add to it as well. But never say never. It’s very possible but not likely. The team isn’t trying to make the weapons WF 2.0

[verbal nebula]

no to powercreep

[nova vault]

amen to that. I always liked the number 30 more anyway.

[sinful scarab]

does anyone have a second account they haven’t done much with it?, i want you to test something real quick please

[half talon]

Hmm? I may have an account or two to test with. Whatcha need?

[sinful scarab]

names of locations are not appearing

motes too

[half talon]

Oh I can def test that… gimme a few. Jumping on my steamdeck

[sinful scarab]

the only location on my map i discovered it before p14

[cloud palm]

I can't get it to work

[half talon]

Sangelia?

[cloud palm]

What?

[half talon]

It’s a flower. In the room you’re in.

[winter prism]

Floating salt flask with cinematic lighting

[cloud palm]

Oh

[winter prism]

What did they mean by this

[cloud palm]

Oh, thats why the option didnt show up

Oh btw

My friend is playing Waste bear and when they get to the nightfold section with the seed

After doing the QTE it skips straight to the tree gorowing cinematic but without music playing

[half talon]

First location I didn’t have a name pop or motes but it is also a siege location so trying another location.

Second location also had no pop of either mote or name

[sinful scarab]

i think its bugged

[calm crown]

new staff is so fast

[half talon]

Looking like it! Worth reporting!

[lean axle]

oh naur they added weapon capacity 😭 weapon inventory not infinite anymore FAAAAH

[sinful scarab]

looks like you haven’t played in a loooooong time

[lean axle]

yeah im in my confused state specially how you cant add points in virtues anymore 🫠

[calm crown]

Seriously, any staff enjoyers, you should try the Silistavf with grounded in combat arts and spirited as a totem.

[sinful scarab]

step 1: get the staff

[nova vault]

I can't seem to do this step... does that mean I lose?

[calm crown]

Haha. I can't get the new armor. But I got two weapons super quick from the siege.

[half talon]

Just need the breeches…

[nova vault]

I can't even find the freaking swword for the armor again. Only spawned once for me south T.T...

[ruby briar]

Hey so I havent played the game in a While. WTF happened to the male faces

They all look.. uh

[nova vault]

What IS this?

[lean axle]

where my torch go 🥀

[inland nebula]

Ah, yes. My favourite votive.
Gardenin
g

[calm crown]

New staff, so fast

sorry about the quality, but hopefully you get the idea

[vagrant maple]

what did they put in the food for the envoys this update

that is so fast

[calm crown]

and the Spirited squirrel wasn't leveled up all the way. it was only at 13% increase in that video.

[vagrant maple]

i should look into that totem

[lean axle]

ive been running around this area is this in the mines or outside 😭

nvm i think i found it 🫠 the bird did not help whatsoever

[spare badge]

The bird's AI is confused by walls, ceilings, floors, and things underground.

[visual radish]

Sometimes by air as well

[lean axle]

either i found it or i just entered a random dungeon with no connection to it whatsoever 🥀

[spare badge]

What were you looking for?

[fathom quail]

When trying to join my friend I get the host unreachable error any idea how to fix?

[lean axle]

the quest circle in the screenshot

[spare badge]

Both of you should relog.

[spare badge]

What quest?

[lament nacelle]

Hmmmm

[fathom quail]

They can join me but I cant join them and we tried that

[spare badge]

Try with cache clear? Verify?

[hexed spoke]

thats why it's called bird brain kek

[spare badge]

It's why I named mine Claptrap.

[hexed spoke]

thats an insult to birds sir

[calm crown]

What determines when you auto-charm animals now?

[lean axle]

i actually dont know lol i just saw a circle in the map and just went there its probably the waste bear? since its on top?

[spare badge]

RNG, apparently.

[calm crown]

Huh, okay

[spare badge]

It doesn't have the bird lit up, so you're tracking the other one.

[hexed spoke]

i think its not purely rng, as i tried to game the rng but sometimes no matter how many times i reset i cant trigger it

[spare badge]

Like I said. RNG. Trust me. I'm the guy who the RNG decided I needed to kill Ruthos 100 times to get one rune and 115 times to get the other...

[calm crown]

I've used up so many wevetseeds today

[hexed spoke]

much dedication

[spare badge]

It's supposed to have some interaction with how many scans you've got, but i've seen it just refuse to proc for common critters.

[hexed spoke]

my 44 is only 29 now lel not much taxi people as compared to p12

[calm crown]

yeah, people are only taxiing for Endless and the new siege, it seems. I've got everything from the siege, I think. so I just am trying to get the armor from the duelos.

and that particular grind definitely does NOT respect player time

[hexed spoke]

im about to just cave and use arcs just for the armor set.
im just missing the chest but ive been farm every time it spawns atm

dunno how its designed but I seem to guarantee 3 fights per hr

[rapid frost]

Is anyone else having an issue in multiplayer where the door to Rovgot Ruins won't open for other players but opens for host?

[calm crown]

That happened to a dude who joined me earlier today.

he had to orengall wolf his way through the door

It's not cool to get NOTHING at all from the duelo

[cloud palm]

Quick question

If I invite players to do bounties, but they are for a faction they are not aligned with

Would they get xp for their own respective factions?

Or must all players be from the same faction to benefit?

[upbeat cradle]

yes

[cloud palm]

Nice

[hexed sleet]

The update notes mention something called “Sap.” What does that mean? Sap no longer deals double damage against Agari struck by Behest. (Garren Rood)

[ripe bone]

Sap is torment

[mild jacinth]

Where do I find Soulsbane and Dewspore for Orlick?

[hexed sleet]

why ?

[hexed spoke]

soulsbane corrupted area
dewspore crypt(where you fight the boss)

[hexed sleet]

this ?

[mild jacinth]

Thanks

[hexed sleet]

english my bad 😄

ı understand 😄

[ripe bone]

Its probably the internal/dev name for the ability and they forgot it was different

[kind narwhal]

If I'm in a mine is that the entrance to the bear fight

[meager crow]

Hi guys, are the mote gone ? For the name of areas ? I can no longer find them.

[kind narwhal]

are these two locations underground or above ground at im next to a mine entrance

[sinful scarab]

what fable is this?

[kind narwhal]

Waste the bear

I think

One of those was free pups

I'm doing the wolf one until I find out more about the bear also

It's confusing

[sinful scarab]

oh, enter the dungeon in the mines, the bird is broken there so ignore it, enter the mines and just go forward

[kind narwhal]

Ah ok until I see a stone circle door

Right

[sinful scarab]

right

[kind narwhal]

I'm going to continue on this wolf one I want the wolf mount

How do reveal enemies in my journal

[fickle wind]

how do i win this pirat fight on the ship

[kind narwhal]

Idk

I wish the wolf thing had markers

[fickle wind]

anyone know about the Duhk Halic polearm problem???

[fallow arch]

kill it with fire

[wary laurel]

the new dungeons of latest Update - ROVGOT RUINS do not appear on my Map... must i initiate a certain Quest ??? (Duelo Shipwrecks)

[hexed spoke]

no. its just a normal dungeon entrance

no quests attached to it, just go it. its at the lower right corner of the map

the entrance is at the middle of a fallen tower in the corrupted area.

[kind narwhal]

How many locations are there for the wolf quest

[opal schooner]

I thought the new update let you ride the wolf. Is that in the game or has it been postponed?

[kind narwhal]

Idk

[knotty imp]

they will have more info on this at tennocon

[opal schooner]

ah ok thx when will that be

[knotty imp]

some time during summer, I guess

ah, July 10th to be exact

[opal schooner]

thx

whrere do i get quarts from

[kind narwhal]

How do I mend the blue ribbon

[sinful scarab]

collect 3 of it from shipwrecks marked on your map if you started the quest, and then craft it at the blacksmith

[tight wing]

Is there a map with all shipwrecks marked

[sinful scarab]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1495132168228180138

[kind narwhal]

I mended it do I need do anything else

[tight wing]

Ty

[sinful scarab]

equip it (a helmet) to be able to interact with the swords at shipwrecks

[kind narwhal]

Nice I take it if I win this fight I get the duelo pact

The new pirate person

[sinful scarab]

yes but you need to win 3 times

[kind narwhal]

Ah

Shouldn't be a problem

[elder fable]

less pirate more duelist really

[kind narwhal]

Yea

He's using a fencing sabre

[elder fable]

no pirate vibes to the set, not even a pirate hat. Just the fugly diaper thing

the armour itself is alright but that hat 💀

[kind narwhal]

Lol

[elder fable]

I swear ||the crew is haunting him|| because they hate that hat so much

[opal schooner]

whrere do i get quarts from

[kind narwhal]

I was told the the wolf has quest circles I don't see them

[sinful scarab]

mainly from chests

[cyan ruin]

can someone give me a bromius build? like what upgrades to get and stuff

[carmine cypress]

Having trouble with the Mestra set farm. I’ve finished the quest, got the rapier, and I’m wearing the ribbon. Every time I duel the ghost on the ship, he just shoots me at the very end and I respawn on the shore with zero loot. Am I missing a finisher or some special condition? I’ve tried multiple times with the same result. Any tips? I’m getting to the ship by pulling the weapons out of the sand—is this the correct way to trigger the duel, or is there another method?

[verbal nebula]

The shooting animation is just him casting a spell, nothing special; it should display a dying animation but is overwriten by the bot ai. The duel doesn't always rewards something, and when it does, it's never shown (but tuvalkane does speak about reforging items when you get parts you didn't own before)

Purely random. GL

[keen jacinth]

Thats the way to do it, I got 2 chests and 2 legs from round 3 encounters, then after that I only got round 1 encounters. after about 10x nothing the helm dropped

[carmine cypress]

ok, thanx. And one more question. any information about loot from new Sieges? may be magic sfuff 🙂 ?

[verbal nebula]

a sword and a staff

[tight vessel]

do we have to do anything to "turn on" the upgraded spectral sight from Orlick or does it just work passively?

[verbal nebula]

passives

[carmine cypress]

which sword? i got new one from new dungion

[tight vessel]

espadata or whatever its called

[carmine cypress]

ah, thanx one more time!

[brave hatch]

cannot interact with this bag?

[keen pasture]

what's up with verminia leaving

[hexed spoke]

she met someone new

[keen pasture]

what

[vital sable]

dude, please, i beg for pants man

[tight vessel]

6h into farming lyke-wake and 1 fragment why am I wasting my time on this thing thats almost certainly getting hotfixed. Sunk cost fallacy you've got me again 😭

[scenic solar]

Looks like whoever is in charge of armor multipler values messed up this patch

[keen jacinth]

seems like it joins precklies and gath for now

[scenic solar]

I can't remember, does leveling up pacts do anything for your defense or health?

(ignoring mastery given for ranking up your account and the virutes that gives for boosting associated armor)

[fluid bronze]

is there a farming loop on the shipwrecks?

[gleaming vortex]

it seems the dungeon exit location is all random after patch, it was the nearest location b4.

[autumn kernel]

How to complete a journal entry on the squirrel? The forest vast voices quest

[verbal nebula]

If you take into account that those enemies might be the baseline of everysingle fallen tower dungeons in the future, the drop rate is probably ok ; but of course it seems pointless to grind it out straight right now as there is only 3-6 enemies that can drop it per dungeon as of now

[autumn kernel]

Nvm, game was bugged just need to relog

[knotty imp]

why is Mirifuir siege rewarding sollows fragments?????

[kind narwhal]

If I loose once to the duelist do I fight him again at a different location

[vital ember]

anyone else having doors not open in co-op if your not host?

[knotty imp]

yep had it happen earlier when trying to coop the new skytower dungeon

[vital ember]

happened to me in that dungeon, but this is in the neathuns

[knotty imp]

re-inviting someone while you are inside the dungeon is kinda a temp fix as of right now

[vital ember]

just tried to leave squad and it froze the client

[gilded seal]

How can I progress orlick when I already have all the trees unlocked and can't pull spears out of any of them? The quest in level 1 completed itself fine, but the one in level 2 just isn't completing.

[rapid frost]

Anyone know where Orlick's dorm is in luminns?

[vital ember]

he'll be standing out in the open

[smoky crater]

spoiler alert: he's not really at the actual "Luminns"

[rapid frost]

That's where I was having an issue 😆

[smoky crater]

map and bird help

[rapid frost]

Bird was bugged and stopped in the middle of Luminns, fixed it by untracking the quest and retracking it.

[smoky crater]

as in the actual Luminns or the "fake" Luminns 👀

[zenith knoll]

why are the waypoints for the rodrich quest completely wack

[vital wave]

I didn't start with using the bow, no that I am using it I don't have a heavy attack, hail arrows button? using keyboard or controller

[zenith knoll]

i did the "Follow Rodrich's path near Heedoway" and it validated the "Follow Rodrich's path near Kairness" instead lmao

not to mention the quest area itself being nowhere near heedoway

[smoky crater]

which bow?

im wondering because Avex is an exception in that it doesn't have the arrow rain attack but a melee arrow stab instead as a heavy attack

[swift schooner]

Turret Jotar siege door bugged?

Got a cluster of enemies behind it but the doors won't open haha

[smoky crater]

nope

turret jotar siege don't exist yet

some UI's might say there's a siege but there's not

[swift schooner]

Ahhh okay picked up the siege tag at a tree, looks like it has an triggered openable door like in the new siege so it must be half-finished

[smoky crater]

ye i have been thinking that it might even be a hotfix addition

[normal sail]

yup votive trees near it and funnily enough the map is too lol, wouldnt be shocked if DE adds it within a hotfix under a new moniker like the Envoy Forge

[vital wave]

That is the one I have

[verbal nebula]

Can people do some quick maf and check if their bonus defenses (physical/magick/stagger) from attunement is applied to their total defenses

[dusky socket]

It is? I'm not sure how it wouldn't be. The numbers in the Loadout UI would be extremely low if they weren't

[swift schooner]

Ugh, didn't realise the journal name at the end of orlick's quest would change the name in the menu. Is there a way to swap it?

[normal sail]

sadly not that we know of

[swift schooner]

Fml lol, I'd have kept it as "Codexicon" if I'd known 🤦‍♂️

I mean "Journal" would be ideal, but at least Codexicon is one word.

[dusky socket]

But now you can open your "Jumbo Wumbos Dictionaire Extraordinaire"!

[zenith knoll]

^ could've been an option

[slow copper]

I've been playing this game as a mage main and have now moved onto leveling the melee weapons and its crazy how underpowered magic is compared to the swords, I'm doing more damage with a level 20 unjoined short sword with 12 grace than a max joined staff with 23 spirit lol

[tight vessel]

yeah and you have no hp. the entire virtue system needs a rework. courage is just objectively the best atm

[fair pier]

magic in theroy is really easy to kite with with but yeah it doesn't feel great in the end

[normal sail]

it only feels worthwhile when you have rune charges, but other than that its just a better stagger fill tactic

defo needs some attention from DE

[gilded seal]

Is there a point in completing the one off votives, like the new "Laid to rest" ? Do they get tracked in the codex or offer unique rewards?

[dusky socket]

On the contrary, magic weapons are very strong with ranged headshot cability and massive stagger blasts/slow that make your enemies incapable of even reaching you, just gotta build and use it right.

Heavy attacks (don't have to charge all the way if you don't want to consume rune charges) can be free aimed by holding block, which lets you headshot. Each magic weapon heavy attack has a slightly different hitbox (The Alder is a large bubble with a big circular hitbox, have to aim higher above their heads. The Erstroot is a longer horizontal hitbox, have to aim to the side of their heads.)

[normal frigate]

So what about totems like the Flurry which has smite chance on PERFECT flyblade.. now that they removed perfect for flyblades?

[slow copper]

yeah sure I'm pulling like 1000+ with charged headshots but it doesn't feel very satisfying or substantial even after like 30 hours with it lol

[dusky socket]

Perfect Orbiting Blades is now just fully charged heavy

[normal frigate]

Ah, so just load to max and it will always be, thanks

[normal frigate]

Have to redo my, steam controller script. Its VERY nice to throw flyblades with just one button. 😇

[dusky socket]

I mean, you're gonna get the exact same experience (probably worse) by using bows, because all you can do is charged headshots, otherwise you're left spamming light attacks and dealing barely any dmg.

Melee has more punch factor purely because you can and often need to implement all mechanics of combat, instead of just standing at range spamming the same attacks over and over.

[verbal nebula]

Yeah, somehow sometimes they are, but sometimes they aren't. I had a full Arbearer Armor set with 40 Courage, and I was culminating at 49 physical armor, 15 magick armor. I don't know why it was so low, and after doing the maths, it wasn't taking all the bonuses, which were almost 50% of the total I should have. But after playing around, it solved itself, so that's really inconsistent ; It may also explain why so many people are getting exploded by Mestra, and why the Siege Mages also can seem a bit overtuned for some people

[normal frigate]

Also. It clear to me how runes now work... 1 heavy attack will start drain and it always goes down to the next segment and stop there?

[verbal nebula]

It aint a drain. It's one charge (one charged heavy attack being buffed PER segment)

[dusky socket]

There are often UI bugs in the Loadout UI. Noticed the most when swapping Pacts and it doesn't count any of the added virtues from the Pact Arts. Exit Nightfold and go back in and it fixes it.

Yeah, people struggling with Maestra and the new Siege is because they don't understand armor and that they need more of it for harder content, and more of X kind for certain content lol. Guy in chat earlier was complaining, asked him what he was wearing, he had Circades on XD

[vital ember]

a friend just unveiled the entire map and got a frag of duke halik... but it says he needs another one?

[dusky socket]

Known bug, will probably be patched Mon/Tues

[vital ember]

what about fog of war? he specifically went for the trees because his map kept clouding up again

[normal sail]

were you both in a session while tree hunting?

bug with co-op and unforking the trees might still be present

[vital ember]

yeah he'd have to relog every time to fix it

[mighty prism]

How’s the new Prelude? Any big changes from the last one?

[dusky socket]

Massive changes

[vital ember]

new dungeons, new weapons, new seige. joineries completely altered

[wicked stirrup]

why T3 missions not pop up on my map? Do I have to speak to my faction leader to trigger them now?

lvl 17 just got back to playing i'd love some clearificaiton

[vital ember]

all faction missions are on bounty boards on world trees now

you dont wander aimlessly to find them

[wicked stirrup]

ohh cool thank u

[dusky socket]

And once you complete one an NPC will spawn nearby that let's you choose another Tale. You can also have multiple active at the same time, but currently is bugged so I would wait for patch

[buoyant ferry]

Are history motes broken atm? i can't find any of them even tho i went through lots of unknown locations

[vital ember]

they aren't as obvious. the clouds are a lot smaller

[dusky socket]

Have you relogged? Motes spawn 1-2 per login per location

[buoyant ferry]

alright and also did they remove location UI when you go to some area? it doesn't appear for me

[dusky socket]

Do you mean the text that appears at top of screen with the location name?

[buoyant ferry]

yea

[dusky socket]

No, still here, so if you're not seeing it that's definitely a bug for you

[plain isle]

i can't be the only one who loves this animation once you pull the blicky out

[zenith knoll]

love the Neutral Special: Gun

[plain isle]

love how they get scared and fall to the ground, sliding back lol

[sudden burrow]

After you finish the quest for Verminia (The Witch) how do you level her up to level 2?

[finite stone]

You just gotta craft new unique items, it's explained on https://wiki.avakot.org/Verminia#Bonding:

woww I hadn't seen that image of verminia in full colour yet hahaha that's kinda crazy

new journal has so much

[somber haven]

Did they change how siege works? The guy at the front gate isn’t spawning

Fort curlail

[dense burrow]

wth the Mestra armor? so overtuned for spirit builds, right? So much better than Wazzard armor D:

[dusky socket]

This is gonna end up on a certain website........

Well, certain Reddit topic.....XD

[wet tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/really-bruh-cmon-5x0Z7DDDtXWD1YHzs5

[dusky socket]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-hands-up-druski-shrug-druski-idk-meme-gif-7093177929627107381

[wet tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/8vUEXZA2me7vnuUvrs

[still violet]

Wow, I didn't expect the mestra armor to nearly double my total armor when I used it lol

[wet tulip]

most definitely going to be nerfed soon xD. it made all the other armors meh xD

[still violet]

Yeah, I'm expecting that lol

I'm running a courage/grace Sirin, and threw it on because I just barely met the armor threshold for spirit

[sly escarp]

Spirit was in need of a 3 stat armour

[still violet]

And suddenly went from ~78 armor total to 139

[sly escarp]

But this is a bit much

[wet tulip]

if you ask me

mestra armor can be 2 spirit pips and 1 pip on the others

[sly escarp]

Oh, it sounds like it's just on par then

[wet tulip]

that wont be that super high armor but still good

[sly escarp]

Orengall gives about 141 on Courage/Grace at ER17

[sly escarp]

That's the Pensieve armour

[dusky socket]

Yeah Orengall stupid strong imo

[sly escarp]

You're describing the Pensieve armour

[still violet]

I actually wonder how much it'd give if I was a higher envoy rank, I'm only ER10 atm

[wet tulip]

is it? wasnt it all 1 pip?

[sly escarp]

2 spirit 1 of the others

[wet tulip]

ah

so i guess 2 pips spirit and grace. 1 pip courage xd>?

[still violet]

I was thinking something like that

[sly escarp]

How about 3 pips Spirit 1 pip of each of the others

[wet tulip]

ngl wazzard should have been like that xD

[sly escarp]

Wazzard's uncommon though...

Isn't it?

[swift schooner]

Man ngl I kinda hate the rat totems that give % damage to a second target

[still violet]

That's true, because mockery is still a Grace armor, despite having more Spirit pips lol

[wet tulip]

so is mestra

[swift schooner]

Just such a bizarre appearance on screen, feels like they should just be a "on kill, do bonus damage on next attack"

[dusky socket]

Why's that?

[wet tulip]

only 2 stars

[sly escarp]

NOOOOO

[swift schooner]

Hmm, my gripe is a really weird aesthetic one

[sly escarp]

T_T

Give spirit a 3 star DE

[dusky socket]

They mentioned that corrupted Wazzard robes might be a thing, so maybe that'll be our 3 star spirit

[swift schooner]

It's like, there's no viusal and auditory diegetic explanation for the bonus damage, no wisp that flies out to the enemy, no soul tether between the two of them, a number just shows up on screen and a nearby enemy is half-dead or full-dead by the time you move onto the next target

[wet tulip]

its already out lmao xD

[still violet]

Are higher stars meant to = better armor? I thought it was just kinda meant to show how difficult it'd be to get the armor lol

[swift schooner]

It's not bad per se, just my personal feeling on it, I'd rather just get a next hit buff when I kill an enemy, achieves the same relative DPS boost without the jarring lack of visuals

[dusky socket]

No, these are the non-corrupted robes. I'm talking about his actual armor, I feel like I remember hearing/reading somewhere that they had talked about making it an obtainable set

[wet tulip]

yea im not sure about stars on armor. pretty sure the scaling is the same on all armors depending on the pips

since it scales infinitely. at least how it looks

[tropic charm]

what does this do exactly?

[still violet]

I actually didn't notice that, I think that's adorable for the Envoy to have the moniker "Spirit of the Tree" lol

[sinful scarab]

anyone else character suddenly stop moving?

i have “hold to sprint” turned off, so i just tap shift once to sprint and just hold W

its been happening since p13 but i just never asked

[wet tulip]

this reminds me on that system on warframe for anti afk xD.

when you were spamming abilities without moving you would stop spamming them until you moved a bit

but never heard of stopping to run

[sinful scarab]

ohh, the game knows i’m holding W but won’t let me move until i press it again or press another key

[opal fable]

is the mestra armor now the best set for spirit?

[wet tulip]

best for everything if you reach 15 spirit

here an example

[opal fable]

damn, thats pretty good

[wet tulip]

look at all 3 potions on xD

now thats madness

[opal fable]

do you notice a difference in how tanky you are?

[wet tulip]

didnt test but it should be the most tanky " stagger wise too"

[dusky socket]

I really wonder what the little team huddle conversation was like when they decided to put 6 pips in each armor on each piece...like, how drunk were they? XD

[opal fable]

surely they will change it, its a bit strange for one armor set to just be the best at everything

[wet tulip]

wdym its fairly known DE release stuff untested

[tropic charm]

is this completable or nah?

[opal fable]

it is, go to the camp near the roods and pick up the note

its where you killed the ode

[tropic charm]

ty

[dusky socket]

There's untested, and then there's absolute max lol. There was no real thought put into its stats, anyone could see that it would be instantly overpowered in every regard

[tropic charm]

oh theres a circle, its just sparrow being drunk

[still violet]

Yeah, I am curious to see how mestra is gonna be nerfed lol

[zenith knoll]

maybe cut one pip of each virtue in each piece

[dusky socket]

Oh it needs more than that haha

[zenith knoll]

OR if we use the helm as an example: straight up remove one virtue entirely in every stat

like you remove all spirit attunement for the helm, courage attunement for the chest and grace attunement for the legs

something like that

[tropic charm]

what if re remove all virtue pips from armour so that u can use what u want regardless of build

[zenith knoll]

or give em thematic boosts

like the mestra set could give anecdotal buffs to the duelo pact or smth

[still violet]

I think it'd be better to kinda focus it more into being a spirit armor

[opal fable]

they have the bestitching for this no?

[tropic charm]

bestitching is only visuals

[still violet]

I think that'd open up too big of a can of worms this early in development, because then people would want that for every armor lol

[zenith knoll]

true, but we can clearly see the limits of merely virtue-scaling armor

at this point we're just veering into blatant powercreep territory

it's not interesting

[still violet]

Yeah that's true enough

[opal fable]

it also just doesn't make sense how its physically more protective than the bear armor, or the king armor

[tropic charm]

ok is it now unfinishable or am i blind? been to both locations, killed everyone, looked around in soul mode for a while and nothing

[zenith knoll]

check your map

[still violet]

If they just keep doing pip combinations and want every armor to be of somewhat equal usability, then they're just gonna end up with a buncha different armors that will have almost the same scaling lol

[tropic charm]

i have

[opal fable]

the spots are swapped around on the map, but there are 2 circles on the map and there is a note somewhere in those circles

[zenith knoll]

trust the map/sparrow guide rather than the objective text

[tropic charm]

is it within the ruins or outside? cause i couldnt find anything

[still violet]

If they want to have it be that 3 star armors are stronger than 1 and 2 star armors, then we'll still reach the point where you have a different armor sets that all translate to roughly the same numbers, just very minute differences

[opal fable]

i think its stuck to a wall with a knife

[zenith knoll]

should be a paper stuck to a wall

[opal fable]

the note that is

[tropic charm]

ty

[zenith knoll]

should be one of the outer walls iirc

[tropic charm]

omfg

i pasted this spot like 5 times even with soul sight

[still violet]

Tbh, probably having set bonuses for armor that aren't just stat-based scaling things probably would be a good way to go about making sure it doesn't end up with everyone using the same like 2 or so armor sets lol

[zenith knoll]

exactly

just something simple is enough

like you could get damage resist against mockery enemies with the mockery set for example

[dim prism]

guys did they add big bear boss ? if so where it is ?

[still violet]

If you mean the one you find in the overworld, it spawns at corruption pools at night

I don't think there's 1 specific spot that it spawns

[dim prism]

i c thx

[zenith knoll]

or in the case of the pact-related armor pieces, each piece could work like an augment to one of the pact's abilities

[tropic charm]

have you dont the waste bear fable?

[zenith knoll]

like in wf with augment mods

[dim prism]

the main quest we talking ?

ye

[tropic charm]

there's several quests

[dim prism]

several ? how can i see

[still violet]

Eh, I think having the pact related armor pieces buff specifically that pact's abilities wouldn't be as good of an idea, I'd rather see more general buffs on armor, and maybe some form of pact ability augmentation added as a seperate thing