gameplay-discussion

[smoky crater]

well too on top

[dusky socket]

Oschelda is pretty good all around. The only Pacts that truly matter if you run high courage or not are Tehtren and Garren, because their strong abilities scale with courage

[sly escarp]

Well, they do seem to be Ceremonial Garb in lore

So they tend to the fancy side

[fickle wind]

so what do i do??

[finite stone]

honestly great job tbh, I'd just add waste bear + warsongs + rise envoy, and the organs I think

oh and world trees + fast travel

and I guess the xmas event not that they can play it right now xD

[smoky crater]

you can get the 2 weapons from it tho

[dusky socket]

Get your Circade armor, and start farming your Arbearer armor, cuz that will take some time to get and then craft. Also make sure you level up by completing the map and discovering all locations, that will be your biggest buff

[finite stone]

They're divisive but probably worth mentioning that they have significantly different male chestpieces, they're just not present in any of the advertising (for some reason)

[dusky socket]

You might need to unlock Kith of Kings Enclave to get the courage prism

[sly escarp]

Pretty sure the masc version of Sirin is in the marketing no?

[fickle wind]

ohh what bufffs do i get when i complete the map and he locations??

[sly escarp]

Account level

[smoky crater]

mmmm hard to say

[finite stone]

Yeah I could've typed my message a bit longer/clearer tbh, I just mean that the significant differences (i.e. the female two which have male variants) aren't anywhere in the marketing

[dusky socket]

Player level goes up, and as it goes up so do your total virtue points, which means more armor, more damage, and you can use higher tier gear

[dire helm]

a good 60-70% of the overall mastery in the game is in unlocking the map locations and trees I think.

[fickle wind]

woahh

[sly escarp]

True!

[fickle wind]

ohh damn

[dire helm]

Pretty sure you can clear like rank 12-13 or so just on map unlocks without leveling anything on a new account.

So it's quite a bit, and a great way to get up to speed with everyone else.

[smoky crater]

no spoke on the back of the tent. it boutta fall
-# ever so slightly blasted out brightness thx HDR

[smoky crater]

-# sorry not sorry if that flashbanged someone

[visual radish]

Drackore i think this is outdated

Least from what i remember wyld sirin has a lot more cloth in front

Will log on later and send a screenshot

[finite stone]

wym? This is Oscelda chestpiece

sirin is a whole different torso

the image there is a comparison of what Oscelda chest was originally, to the changed version they implemented in the hotfix

[visual radish]

Ohh, yeah the blue threw me off

[finite stone]

lmao just like this fr

[sly escarp]

Literally posted Sirin but with the Oscelda chestpieces lol

[finite stone]

-# we do a lil trollin

[visual radish]

You dastardly rogue!

[wet tulip]

i do agree on male envoy the only goodish looking armor piece is the chest piece

[dusky socket]

I feel like a lot of the male armor issues is that the characters are so lanky. It's more realistic, for sure, but we're so used to seeing males as muscly, so having skinny arms and legs and shoulders on top of the more "feminine" (but period appropriate to the english/french renaissance influence) just makes it look...wimpy, and fruity haha

[proper crystal]

perfect 1600 on a rare deer let's go

[wet tulip]

highest i ever reached xD

[proper crystal]

gotta do 2 cycles for that

in theory you can get 2000

but i don't think any animal has notes close enough for that

always ends before the last note

[wet tulip]

yup

[spice elbow]

@young lodge they're able to delete my account so i can start anew

LETS GOOOO

[young lodge]

Wow! A bit of a process but it can be done. Nice 👍

[spice elbow]

heck yeah

[spice elbow]

how do i check when i started the game

[young lodge]

What do you mean. Like when you first logged in the first time around?

[spice elbow]

yeah like when i logged in for the first time

after having received the access code

[proper crystal]

there is no way for you to check

[slow copper]

🖕 my op

[final rock]

Ah nice P14

[tropic charm]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[wet tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BpGWitbFZflfSUYuZ9

grind time

[sharp axle]

[zenith knoll]

👀

armor scaling with all 3 virtues

[wet tulip]

lol

[urban tree]

The game is $99? How many players are there?

[novel cargo]

Hi all, I had trouble accessing my account, cause I created it a few months ago and didn't complete the registration cause I could not play it by then. I got blocked from the server trying to access the page now, once I logged in. Is this permanent? I really would like to play the game

[finite stone]

it's the power of philosophy

[slow copper]

a lot of us got in earlier for free muahaha

[hushed sentinel]

HMMMM

[vocal thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-destroy-my-enemies-and-my-life-is-yours-gif-7965707800203237625

DEEEEE, BRING SOULFRAME TO CONSOLE. AND MY PAYCHECKS ARE YOURS

[zenith knoll]

oh my god

picktrix is absolutely broken now

[proper crystal]

does reforging reset still or what

[finite stone]

Hmmm... tough to tell but I'm getting the sense from this that maybe they don't?

[proper crystal]

goodbye lifesteal, I'll miss you

[stiff arrow]

I really dont like the ways runes work now 🙁
Hope it grows on me

[wet tulip]

so essentially joineries nerf xD?

[finite stone]

Yeah me neither 😔 I know it won't grow on me sadly, since I enjoy using my various weapon attacks freely without there being elemental vfx on it

[wet tulip]

since all they give now is normal weapon dmg scaling

[stiff arrow]

Flitsmoke is super nerfed now could have it up forever before but now its 6 sec only it seems

[finite stone]

fingers crossed DE hear player feedback on that issue though. runes should just be activated with a rune button

[finite stone]

I think so, but the extra joinery damage has been given by default so it's just things like lifesteal that are gone for the time being

[stiff arrow]

Did people even complain about runes, I hade zero issue with how it worked before, why "fix" it...

[wet tulip]

and fair to assume greatsword heavy attack play style is meh now too? since either your rune will always be used or you gotta stop heavy attacking to save it xD?

[wet tulip]

i guess DE didnt like how some runes were too broken

[stiff arrow]

well only "fully charged" heavy attack triggers the rune

[wet tulip]

which is the whole idea of great sword heavy attack build xD

[proper crystal]

and fully charged is the best way to use greatsword

[wet tulip]

why would you heavy attack with a great sword if it isnt fully charged

[stiff arrow]

they really "changed" the way this game is played now with these rune changes...

[proper crystal]

thrice blessed resets

at least, it requires 30

[hot oriole]

what's a votive?

[proper crystal]

so i assume it resets

[proper crystal]

a quest or bounty or an event encounter thingy

[finite stone]

Votives are a variety of different tasks you can pick off the world trees! The most useful one to know about is the sparrow's tales which are your enclave tasks for standing. There's a full explanation of votives over on the votives section of the world tree page: https://wiki.avakot.org/World_Trees#Votives

[proper crystal]

well default scaling doesn't matter anymore i guess, just base damage

wait the new set from orlick is kinda nutty

2/2/2 scaling

in everything

[vague thorn]

hi all, quick question - did not play for long, was there a reset of progress with recent changes or nothing of sort yet?

[zenith knoll]

okay so the picktrix rune does not expend rune charge

[vague thorn]

perhaps in wrong discussion thread

[zenith knoll]

idk if that's intended or not but you can basically have the effect forever

[proper crystal]

definitely a bug

[wet tulip]

most likely will be fixed soon

[wet tulip]

the last hard wipe of progress was in P7 i think

[zenith knoll]

also i'm not sure the codex scanning is working?

unless i'm not doing it correctly

[wet tulip]

and DE said they dont plan to wipe any progress anymore

[vague thorn]

ah I see, I was waiting for one but unsure if it happened before I joined

there is no manual hard reset by choice right?

[wet tulip]

rn idk but the devs did say when game fully get released there will be a option

[vague thorn]

I see, thank you, maybe I will try to send a support ticket see if this is even possible

[zenith knoll]

nevermind it is working, the progress is just not noticeable at first glance

[frozen edge]

The last reset was ages ago before precludes even hit double digits

[zenith knoll]

oh they added an organ in the north-east

[verbal zenith]

Anyone else missing their HUD?

[frozen edge]

added or moved the one at combers? added would be nice

[shy summit]

There's no lit brazier on the siege of mirifuir to light your torch, am i missing something?

[lime escarp]

dewelion changed it's move set or i'm crazy

[shy summit]

im guessing the game is just broked

[zenith knoll]

baby's first full codex entry

[proper crystal]

how do i fix my screen being dark

[frozen edge]

oh boy, codex entries. I can't wait for the broken fortress bisulcam codex thats broken for then next 10 years :p

[cerulean crane]

How do i start the new fable?

[granite vigil]

Gotta find the wrecked ships

There'll be an ominous sound

Use your spirit sight and you'll see a blue ribbon shining

Grab it

[zenith knoll]

if the silhouettes are any indication it doesn't have one

[edgy hull]

oh do they only appear with spirit sight?

[iron dust]

I oly got 2 out of 3 parts for the new pact, what gives?

[proper crystal]

why does healer have 4 ranks now?

[crude valve]

Does anybody else feel an input like when jumping sometimes ?

[iron dust]

Where do i get the last part for the pact and weapon?

[proper crystal]

oh hey, garren rood no longer does 100% current health true damage

[granite vigil]

I don't think so, but they're much clearer, shining like the oden intel

[edgy hull]

I've found them now!

[frozen edge]

did they change the color channels and materials? my black armor actually looks like black enamel now, not grey. pretty nice.

[wet tulip]

great they broke odiac again with the joineries changes xD

0 bonus pips

[dawn hearth]

So, how do I "Destroy the organ"?

[visual radish]

Have the beavers clog the pipes near where they are stuck

Defeat the baneret

Go up the tower take over the controls and shoot glowing weakpsots

[obsidian prairie]

Get your lil dudes out of the muck, open the grates for them, doors will open, fight your way to the top, use the control panel to play music lightning and blow up the glowing areas. Careful you don't get ganked by extra adds that spawn and rush you and don't forget to pick up the treasure chest at the ground level

[dawn hearth]

thank you very much

[proper crystal]

wait the second orlick quest is impossible

[wet tulip]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI9s4KSU2SQ

[proper crystal]

unless they added new locations

[glad flume]

Is there a breakdown of how the new joineries work anywhere, or is it too early?

[sly escarp]

Apparently they did

[proper crystal]

they add scaling

[sly escarp]

They're pretty simple, each one adds 1-3 scaling pips. Blessed adds 1, thrice blessed 3

Damage was moved to be part of weapon levelling

All other effects were removed

[proper crystal]

but no new trees?

[zenith knoll]

so apparently this lets you charm animals automatically

[sly escarp]

Don't think so

[proper crystal]

then it's still impossible

[sly escarp]

What's the step?

[zenith knoll]

except i can't tell if you still get powder from that or not

[sly escarp]

Wonder if interacting with a tree will work?

[proper crystal]

nope

[sly escarp]

Dang

[proper crystal]

unless

[sly escarp]

#1438224825113120788 time

does the bug report dance

[glad flume]

I mean that parts obvious yeah, but I'm more curious if they changed the actual values for the scaling to make it worth using a thrice blessed on a weapon that already has 3 pips in that category.

[vague widget]

how do i stop the game from crashing?

[glad flume]

Or if its capped

[sly escarp]

Nothing in the patch notes, still 0.5 per pip per point seemingly

Good for making your weapons more hybrid though. You can use a Courage seathorn now

[glad flume]

Well that's a bummer, lol. Gonna have to basically rejoinery all of the weapons. Have a lot that now have wasted pips.

[visual radish]

Yeah i feel the idea was making weapons viable in a larger variety of builds

[lament path]

Mockery smiting is a lot smoother now if you do multiple in a row

[sly escarp]

A big complaint with p13 was not being able to use any weapon in any build. This seems to be designed to help with that

Without going the route of complete re-attunement

[glad flume]

RIP my Marrow's Bane with its joinery to add three courage.

[proper crystal]

i restarted and interacted with a tree and it worked this time

[glad flume]

Ironically, gonna have to re-attune half my weapons now.

Do you still have to relevel? Or do they now stay at max at least?

[sly escarp]

Not sure on that

[sly escarp]

Okay, so there is a fallback. Good

[proper crystal]

where's the new siege?

[sly escarp]

Castle at the top of the map

[proper crystal]

where's the new location?

[frozen edge]

aw wtf, they made everything blessed by saphene by default when they swapped to the new system

[hot oriole]

how do i do this?

[forest tangle]

hmm🤔

[sly escarp]

Not sure. Explore time!

[golden ingot]

Any idea why my purity is getting more damage from a spirit joinery than a courage joinery? Both stats are nearly equal, and courage is one point higher anyways
It seems to only be for thrice blessed, as well

[sly escarp]

Use soulsight, find an animal, and then left click while soul sight is active and you're close.

[glad flume]

I'm curious if this means anything more than "virtue scaling capped" or if there's some sort of capstone bonus

[hot oriole]

i did that

[visual radish]

Patch notes
Means 5 of the same pips

[sly escarp]

And you played all the music notes?

And got the animal totem?

[zenith knoll]

"envoy. am i cringe"

[golden ingot]

Oh wait is 5 pips the cap? That would explain my problem I think, since twice blessed and thrice blessed are giving me the same stats

[sly escarp]

All weapons also have a virtue cap, so you're probably running into that

[visual radish]

Not a cap just UI visibility stuff

[golden ingot]

ah

[sly escarp]

A weapon can only get +150% base damage from virtue scaling (+100% for common weps)

[visual radish]

The virtue cap naitou mentioned and the 5 pips i mentioned are separate things

[calm crown]

Wait. What's the deal with joineries now? The perks are gone?

[sly escarp]

They add scaling pips now

[proper crystal]

oh the objective changed

it says pull smites from enemies now

which doesn't work of course

[calm crown]

what's the difference between Verite, Feybalt, and Quicksilver?

This is bullshit

[proper crystal]

nothing

[sly escarp]

What they can be equipped on

[golden ingot]

Do 1 and 2 pip joineries reset level now? Or is it still just the thrice blessed, presumably?

[proper crystal]

no

[sly escarp]

Not sure

[proper crystal]

only thrice

[golden ingot]

epic, ty

[calm crown]

Why did they change the joineries? did they talk about it?

[sly escarp]

Last devstream, yeah

Changed seemingly to allow for more weapon build flexibility

[bronze adder]

Anyone know this means that 5 pips of a single type are a hard cap for the weapons?

[sly escarp]

People were upset in p13 that some weapons couldn't work in some builds.

[visual radish]

Reading patchnotes is like eating veggies, good for you and few people bother with

[calm crown]

I'm so irritated about that change. So my hard-won Lifesteal reforged weapons . . . . . just get pips. wee

[sly escarp]

#1438224662344761345 is a good place to leave your constructive feedback!

[golden ingot]

hmm okay I think I will not touch joineries for now lmao

[summer galleon]

So what's the point behind the different Joinery Types then?

[golden ingot]

Nothing atm afaik, but might get something later perhaps?

[wet tulip]

xDDD

[sly escarp]

Currently just a byproduct of how Joineries used to work.

[golden ingot]

I still have those joineries that do nothing lol

[wet tulip]

apparently if you mid convo in nightfold he follows you outside

[peak gust]

So is the quest bugged? I got the first 3 ribbons and got 1/3 for Duello pact did another duel and got nothing

[golden ingot]

Oh yeah, was Healer getting extra pip levels not in the patch notes?

[sly escarp]

Seems to be

[peak gust]

Brother that's unfortunate it's the main thing in the patch

I'm a try another duel and see if I get a frag or something

[iron dust]

Was I supposed to only get 2/3 parts for the pact from the mission. If so where do I get the last part?

[zenith knoll]

isnt that straight up the best armor set we got yet (pensive's cape)

[peak gust]

I only got 1/3

[topaz robin]

o.o

that armou ris wicked omg

[peak gust]

I still see shipwrecks so maybe

You have to go to each

One of the ones I went to made me use a halbred

[obsidian prairie]

Anyone know a good place to find/grind Gossamer Quartz? I'm trying to get the mats to build Garren Rood's pact

[peak gust]

So I'm starting to wonder if only the ones where you use a rapier count

[topaz robin]

cyrpts

chetss

chests in denmark under city

[obsidian prairie]

Like the undercity?

[topaz robin]

try to farm dewelion and end up with 220 like me

[narrow condor]

wait what does joineries do now

just attunement?

[topaz robin]

patch made my weapons and rune stronger if anything

[peak gust]

It is exactly that

To those having issues with the quest

After you craft the headband from visiting three ships

Look at all the ship sites and there will be different weapons at them

Some sites are not correct

Only the ones that have rapiers progress the quest

So it seems

[topaz robin]

so where do i go to start the quest

[distant tide]

is it from [e-mail]?

[peak gust]

Look for a shipwreck near a shore

[weak river]

Same question

[narrow condor]

whats the difference between gildaur verite and stuff now

[peak gust]

Seems there's a few spots but heres a quick screenshot

[narrow condor]

man this is half baked, they should just take their time i dont mind waiting tbh

[wet tulip]

seems like no difference xD

[river star]

i equiped duelo but nothing happens

[peak gust]

The pact or the headband?

[river star]

dduelo ribbon i mean

[wet tulip]

gildaur was renamed to verite and you can use it on all types of weapons

[peak gust]

If you have the headband go to another ship site and start the duel

[calm crown]

Man, as much as I've been hyping this game up to people lately, my first impressions of this prelude SUCK! I hate the joinery and rune changes. And my first Votive from the tree after the update is bugged.

[peak gust]

Only the ones where you use the rapier matter

[sly escarp]

Need to go find the next step then!

[river star]

ahhh ty

[peak gust]

I actually like how they did this quest at first I was confused but if you listen to her dialogue it makes sense. The whole story is actually really cool

[narrow condor]

wait is it intended that gildaur will be gone?

[pine latch]

what happened to the joinery?

[sly escarp]

Reworked to Only add more pips now

[pine latch]

what pips

so no more lifesteal?

[sly escarp]

Not innate to the weapon, no

[golden ingot]

wait this means I can finally use a grace polearm...

[sly escarp]

They add virtue scaling pips now

[sly escarp]

Yep

[pine latch]

ok thats pretty bad. thanks

[frozen edge]

Am I imagining things or did they reduce spectral sight range to make you earn it back via Scribe?

[wet tulip]

yup

[frozen edge]

not bad for progression I guess. was just expecting a bonus to the old range :p

[wet tulip]

BTW guys as for the scribe with the pull duhk halic from world tree's. i relogged and was able to finish that scribe

[frozen edge]

any zone transition works for that I think, entering and exiting nighthold updated that for me

[bleak sand]

Picktrix seems to be extremely bugged

[dawn hearth]

hymn roses are just a field pickup right? any idea where they spawn

[frozen edge]

pretty much anywhere that isn't corrupted or water

[dawn hearth]

ah ok

[peak gust]

So seems like the quest is indeed bugged. Sarah also said in game chat they are getting us a hot fix for it. I went to every site and I'm stuck at 2/3

For the pact

[verbal zenith]

I finished the quest, but I didn't get a Duelo Pact, nor did I get parts for the Navalha

I did get 2/3 parts for the Espadarte, though

[calm crown]

Is anyone else experiencing a "fuzzy" look to all of the graphics after the update?

[peak gust]

I'm not

My quest is complete but I still have the markers on the map

[azure bear]

yo for anyone starting/ done with the new fable or quest or wtv
did you find all the ships within one tightly packed part or corner of the map ||(top left)|| or was it like spread out
are they in different locations for everyone?

[lament path]

The new siege looks quite amazing, S rank is pretty lenient though

[azure bear]

I've found two and I've passed a couple of wrecks but u can't find the last one

[peak gust]

I think if you set the quest to priority it shows you all the spots

After I got my first ribbon I could see all the ship spots

Quest is bugged anyway

[azure bear]

I LOWKEY don't know how to do that

[peak gust]

Can't finish it right now

[wet tulip]

for me after i did first part

[peak gust]

Open menu go to journal

And it should be in the first tab

[azure bear]

oh OK yea got it

[opal fable]

can you do the fights again for the last part of the pact?

[peak gust]

Bugged they are pushing hot fix soon

[opal fable]

ah so no need to worry about that then

[peak gust]

I'm not sure if we should be getting fragments from re challenging them. I'm getting runes

[opal fable]

also it said a new ancestor joined when i beat the quest, but i can't find him in my camp

[peak gust]

Same

[opal fable]

wait you can already re challenge them? i can't find any more weapons to pull out near shipwrecks

[peak gust]

I'm almost positive my game is bugged because I still have the map markers even though the quest is done

[peak gust]

And yeah I still see rapiers at the sites

[opal fable]

do you keep the special hat on?

[peak gust]

I do still have the hat on

[vestal flame]

does the first passive of garren rood got useless again?

with the new rune changues

[narrow condor]

flitsmoke and torrent got nuked xd

[velvet juniper]

idk flitsmoke is still really good

[peak gust]

What? What did they do? what's the duration?

[velvet juniper]

can easily clear a camp with 1 charge

[narrow condor]

u cant swap weaps on flitsmoke anymore

[opal fable]

6 seconds base with 3 extra per kill

[peak gust]

This still seems nuts

And it just uses 1 charge?

[velvet juniper]

yeah, up to 4

[peak gust]

Yeah it's still plenty broken then lol

[velvet juniper]

has a reason to upgrade now at least

not a fan of charge heavy for activation though. Esp with daggers and flitsmoke I often want to charge heavy (mockeries esp). Wishi it was like light+heavy hold or something

[wet tulip]

LMAO

[peak gust]

I guess I'll do a detailed read of the patch notes. So far my only annoyance is it looks like I need to get more squirrels because I can't pass that part of or licks quest

[wet tulip]

after my second fable fight i got out of bounds xDDD

[peak gust]

Did you fall?

Oh lol

[velvet juniper]

its very buggy, i only got 2/3 frags

[wet tulip]

time to look at that ship

[opal fable]

you can also go to the northern island with the extra tree

[wet tulip]

got it in P9 xDDD

[dawn hearth]

So is getting the Duelo just not possible RN or is it just buggy

[narrow condor]

imma just hibernate for 2 weeks til bugs and joineries are fixed

[wet tulip]

xDDD

[peak gust]

Can't get wait for hot fix. Already confirmed by Sarah...it's coming asap so prob later today

[topaz robin]

so happy my dewelion is a rapire now

[wet tulip]

does it matter though? isnt it a long blade anyways xD?

[dawn hearth]

alright cool

What do Votive Offerings do?

[opal fable]

oh thats strange, my animals journal gets reset if i relog

[peak gust]

Cash them in at faction leaders for points I think

[dawn hearth]

Oh cool

[bitter flax]

I hate Mirifuir's lighting and visibility paired with the zoo of archers and their invisible sniper arrows cutting off half your health.

The conductor fight was also agony and all I got for all that suffering was a repeat Girn sword fragment, not even the new staff fragment.

And since I had to use rank 30 pact and weapon to even stand a chance of finishing that siege, I didn't even get xp to a new weapon or pact for all my troubles.

Really dislike that the new staff is RNG gated behind that awful experience. I hope the rest of the content is better.

[haughty sierra]

is it normal if i hadnt acquired full duelo and rapier bleprints after quest?

[peak gust]

Bugged

[opal fable]

sadly yes, we are waiting for hotfix

[haughty sierra]

thats gross

[peak gust]

I mean it's EA/ Alpha but boy I feel like if anything should've been bugged it shouldnt have been the new class smh

It's the biggest attraction this patch xD

[opal fable]

usually these things get patched fast

[solid summit]

is there even a difference between differenty joinery types now?

[haughty sierra]

i dont wanna blame devs or something, they definitely do a great job making this game, but it should've been tested out

[dawn hearth]

that's what you're for lmao

[peak gust]

Yeah I'm not mad....just a they could've waited xD

[haughty sierra]

different joinery is acceptable by different grip types, also some of them is stronger(3 blessings except of 1)

[opal fable]

ah, the shop alca dude has a part for duelo, so im crafting now

[haughty sierra]

good point tho

[solid summit]

yea that i saw but i mean between a thrice blessed green and a purple one for Grace

does the color of the joinery make any difference?

[haughty sierra]

i just wanted a rapier😭😭😭

[opal fable]

espadarte is 10 hours, and duelo is 27-28 hours

[opal fable]

no dwellion?

[peak gust]

Also pretty sure the patch notes said they may get unique buffs in future

[wet tulip]

anyone tested to replay the new tale ?

[haughty sierra]

color only means which weapon type is affected by it i guess

like feybalt is for magicks

[opal fable]

i don't think you can yet

[haughty sierra]

yeah:(

[wet tulip]

ah damm

[solid summit]

yea, green one can only be used on bows for example, but since purple can be used on any grip type i thought maybe it has any other difference when picking the specific joinery

but seems to not make any difference

[spare badge]

Maybe? But I meant that type of email from any type of system. I was just pointing out that sometimes it takes a few minutes to get an email that those systems send.

[verbal zenith]

Where do you do the duelos outside the quest?

[topaz robin]

no one answers where to start it idk why

[wet tulip]

seems like bugged by what people claim

[verbal zenith]

You can start the quest just north of Salzbrim, I'm asking about doing the duels after the quest

[edgy hull]

Has anyone found the entrance to the fallen skytower yet?

[zenith knoll]

there's a new siege on top of the mirifuir one at turret jotar but it looks half finished

[opal fable]

make sure to check the alca shop dude for extra duelo parts

[peak gust]

Try tracking the quest in journal there's multiple other wreck sites

[topaz robin]

new seige is fun a pain to gewt into but 3 mage bosses

[topaz robin]

no one kjnows how to start the quest

[verbal zenith]

I've been running around, the quest is finished but it's still being tracked on my marker

[peak gust]

The quest is bugged though everyone. Most of us are stuck at 2/3 for Duello pact. Sarah said in game hotfix is coming

[peak gust]

Yeah you are with the rest of us can't get last fragment it's bugged

[topaz robin]

.> no quest even started for me ggs for reading

[peak gust]

I started it at the north of the map i think there's even a ship icon near that shore on the map

[stiff arrow]

Avakot seem to sell Duelo too

[topaz robin]

o.o

[peak gust]

Hi brother patience is a virtue

[stiff arrow]

you got to a shipwrek and get a blue ribbon, thats how you start the quest

[topaz robin]

asked like an hour ago when you guys started the rant of finishing the quest

[merry fox]

Just downloaded the game, is there a lance and shield type weapon? Is there an easy place I can find all the weapons? (If there isn’t it would be an awesome and fun weapon to add ;) )

[peak gust]

Im pretty sure I posted the same thing earlier you start the quest and do all steps at shipwrecks I'm almost positive any work. Also I'm not paid by de

[spice fern]

i constantly die in the duello on the ship i cant defeat her am i doing something wrong?

[peak gust]

I'm just a player not obligated to answer you at all calm your privileged ass down

[stiff arrow]

There is swords and shield you use, and polararms

[topaz robin]

idk no ship icon on my map is completly empty and no journal update jusat new seige so prolly bugged as well

quest does not exist for me

[stiff arrow]

examples

[merry fox]

I see, thank you!

[peak gust]

It won't appear in journal until you pick up your first ribbon. Like most quest in this game they don't start until you stumble upon them

Go look at the shores in the game on the map. Like physically go to them

And you see a shipwreck on the shore. There's probably a ribbon attached to the debris

[topaz robin]

new quests on tree

that would have been ez to tell me

[peak gust]

I didn't check the tree

Holy can you block people on discord

Nvm figured it out

[topaz robin]

XD i helped idk how many peopl ewith cyrpt quest and i get a block from an egoist who was more concered with the bug that a hot fix is comming for then speading info gg no re

[dawn hearth]

are there any dyes in this game other than the default?

[stiff arrow]

all factions have one extra

[distant tide]

Cheers seems like there is unforunately, i'll let it cook preludes 14

[topaz robin]

theres default 1 for each faction and 4 from the poaragons

[stray spoke]

I'M IN

I'M INNNNN

[opal fable]

how many of those fallen towers can we enter now? i only found 1

[edgy hull]

Where did you find it?

[opal fable]

bottom right

[stray spoke]

Where is the new quest

[edgy hull]

Gotchaaa, I was looking around at the location literally called "Fallen Skytower" to no avail.

This game can be obtuse sometimes

[opal fable]

i only know of this one because they showed on the devstream

[glad flume]

I'm noticing a large amount of my pip-capped weapons are showing 5 pips instead of the single pip with a gold star. Just bugged, or is that actually indicative of something?

[oblique zenith]

So was I supposed to only end up with 2/3 fragments for Duello and 1/2 for Espadarte after fully completing the fable?

[opal fable]

you can buy the last part for duello from avakot for 3k dracs

[oblique zenith]

Neat, thank you.

[scenic solar]

what about Espardarte?

[opal fable]

i got my second part from the new siege

[dense burrow]

How do I enter the new siege? D: I see no entrance

[oblique zenith]

Also. random merchant Avakot or the faction?

[opal fable]

random merchant

[karmic totem]

you can always find him at the Well too

[azure bear]

I love rapiers bro

[peak gust]

Quest will be fixed in five minutes y'all hot fix in bound

[dawn hearth]

Damn, that was fast

[slender saddle]

What's the difference between Verite, Quicksilver and Feybalt joineries now?

They show no bonuses other than virtues

[fading minnow]

Can I delete my character and start a new one yet?

[scenic solar]

why would you want to?

it's a live service title, not a soulslike

[fading minnow]

Because I took a break and don't remember how to play? Why would you prevent someone from doing it is a better question.

[scenic solar]

just how the game is set up

it's fantasy WarFrame

[opal fable]

how do we scan enemies?

[proven plaza]

Thinking about getting the founder's so i can play with 2 friends. Is the coop up to snuff yet?

[wet tulip]

mostly only the story tales are sometimes bugged in coop

[opal fable]

are these weapons in the boats on a cooldown? because i can't any more of them

[proven plaza]

Thank you.

[wet tulip]

UMMMMMM

HMMMMMMM?

[zenith knoll]

grandpa got some action

[wet tulip]

BAITED

[zenith knoll]

just finished orlick's quest line

very good stuff

[wet tulip]

too bad armor set got nerfed xD

[zenith knoll]

wait did it

[wet tulip]

didnt have enough time to have fun

[wet tulip]

grace and courage are 1 pip now

[zenith knoll]

every piece gave 16 to 19 armor in all categories

um

they just deleted the grace pip for the pensive cape's magic resistance lmao

[proven plaza]

Sorry last question. If i buy a class for a founder's pack, do my other two codes for freinds have to choose a class or are they all the same class too?

[wet tulip]

the game codes are to just start playing

each player got their own choices

[zenith knoll]

this is still pretty solid

[wet tulip]

for a spirit build

but then why not use wazzard x

[zenith knoll]

wazzard is straight up worse with this prism

hang on

[wet tulip]

because you have low spirit

[zenith knoll]

nope it's still worse

wazzard set with 41 spirit

[opal fable]

anyone got a weapon part from the shield boys in the new dungeon?

[zenith knoll]

pensive set with same values

[wet tulip]

ah pensive essentially giving more physical and stability

[zenith knoll]

wazzard is more magic res-oriented

[wet tulip]

but bit less magick

[zenith knoll]

ultimately i guess it depends on who you're up against and if you want to optimize your resistances

but the pensive's set is definitely among the best armor sets for essentially everything now

[wet tulip]

you mean for spirit oriented builds though

[zenith knoll]

yeah you do need to invest in spirit

[wet tulip]

if your main stats isnt spirit i dont see it scaling better then courage/grace armors

[hollow viper]

do i just suck at the game or does the new fight feel unfair

[wet tulip]

what new fight?

[hollow viper]

i feel like i'm being hit when i shouldn't, like wonky hitboxes

[wet tulip]

you mean the new siege? the new collapsed tower?

[hollow viper]

the duello

[wet tulip]

idk i went full courage and spammed light attacks and the maestra died before me in all fights xD

i didnt even parry or dodge lol

full on bonk fight

[hollow viper]

he doesn't stop attacking for me, even if i dodge and am far away he still hits me even though his sword visibly doesn't touch me

[wet tulip]

imo go full courage and brute force with light attacks

[hollow viper]

will try that ty

[opal fable]

anyone got any lyke wake parts yet?

[stable umbra]

new siege was rough figuring out the final boss part, was not expecting that kind of mechanic lol

[zenith knoll]

good drip though

[hollow viper]

what trifecta did you use?

triquetra idk lmao

[wet tulip]

wdym?>

virtue?

[hollow viper]

yeah

[wet tulip]

courage

go max red one

[sly escarp]

Even post nerf?

[wet tulip]

from how it looks like its best in slot for spirit builds. other then that okaish

[sly escarp]

Yeah, seems like an upgrade from the Wazzard set by just adding a Courage and Grace pip each

[wet tulip]

better physical and stability for sure

[azure bear]

there's no way that's the regular rate of getting gossamer quartz
omds I'll never have 40 bro

[iron temple]

I do have 1 Lyke-Wake fragment so far... 😄

[wet tulip]

didnt read patch notes. where does it drop?

[opal fable]

ah so they do drop, how many runs of the new dungeon have you done?

from the shield boys in the fallen tower

[wet tulip]

ah kk

[opal fable]

ive ran it like 20 times, and got almost 2 sets of the boss drop weapon and 0 lykewake

[iron temple]

I got my 1 fragment on the first try and have done roughly around 10 more and got no more yet... I have been looping around and lost count... 😅

[opal fable]

ah so its not just me being unlucky

[zenith knoll]

i still believe it's great

the best all-around (spirit) armor set for sure

[sly escarp]

Lyke Wake just drops from the Mendicant enemies in the dungeon right? Are they different somehow from the Mendicant Soldiers at the Mendicant Agari fights?

[zenith knoll]

though if you want to specialize in a given resistance stuff like bromius and wazzard are better

[opal fable]

they have the new weapon, idk if the others have that

[iron temple]

The description on the fragment of Lyke-Wake is hilarious: "[HC] Give me a description"!... 😅🤣

[sly escarp]

Ah, the spirit helps. Thought we were comparing to Orengall (which is broken good)

[sly escarp]

#1438224825113120788 time does the bug report dance

[vague igloo]

anyone has a tip to beat the duelo ? i get 2 tapped by it

[wet tulip]

go full courage to have more hp and brute force the fight with light attacks xD

[zenith knoll]

@sly escarp what's your take on this

personally i think it's very solid

[iron temple]

Oh that reminds me I did hit up the Mendicant Knell Knight agari boss once & Mendicant King once today too.

[sly escarp]

On par with Orengall maybe

[gilded rock]

Where are the Gossamer Quartz now found in P14?
Music Statues, Flower chests, Golden chests, Faction tales and killing Killing Agari no longer seem to drop them. Crypts can drop them still but now only 1 coffin per run will be possible to open.

[sly escarp]

When was the last time you played?

[opal fable]

can you not just do the crypt quest for 3 crypts per run

[sly escarp]

That can help me figure out what info is needed

[opal fable]

what is the siege respawn timer?

[gilded rock]

P13. Probably late Feb

[sly escarp]

You might just be getting unlucky? Gossamer Quartz drops haven't changed since then

They do share a spot in the table with Sappheline and Moranite, which did get a drop buff in a hotfix though, so that might be it?

[wet tulip]

oh lol

[dawn hearth]

So is there just gonna be a boat on the coast somewhere?

[wet tulip]

i just noticed

[dawn hearth]

for Duelo

[zenith knoll]

genuinely incredible envoy fashion if you ignore the cloth clipping nightmare happening at the back

[sly escarp]

You're looking for wrecks

[wet tulip]

i guess maestra armor gonna be the best allrounder now xD

[gilded rock]

🙃 Okay, that's definitely something they need to change at some point. Some things are waaaay more of a pain to get then anything else. Like burn out levels of rng.

Yeah Sappheline and Moranite are suuuper common. No issue on getting those.

[dawn hearth]

alright thank you

[zenith knoll]

oh wow what

[dawn hearth]

I definitely was gonna run past one of those looking for a boat off the land lol

[wet tulip]

since it got the same pip count like the un nerfed pensive

[zenith knoll]

yeah

[sly escarp]

That explains the hotfix

[wet tulip]

yup

[sly escarp]

Guessing the weightings got mangled during the launch

And they wanted to make sure the Duelo was the better

[dawn hearth]

Do the shipwrecks look especially different or is it just any shipwreck

[sly escarp]

Wait, are you looking for the fight or to start the quest

[dawn hearth]

Start the quest

[wet tulip]

guess time to grind

[dawn hearth]

where is the quest start trigger?

[wet tulip]

go around the coast look for ship wrecks and pick up blue ribbon pieces

[opal fable]

is there a cooldown on the shipwrecks after the quest? i have not found a single weapon i can interact with

[sly escarp]

Are you wearing the ribbon?

[opal fable]

yeah

[dawn hearth]

Got it, thank you

[gilded rock]

Whats it called?

[vague igloo]

duelo boss is such a pain to make us walk forever after dying

[opal fable]

don't know of the top of my head, it usually is the t3 quests near the castle in the middle

[gilded rock]

ohhh no. Those have had one max this patch. Good thought though

[proper crystal]

so when they said smites would be charges, was i the only one expecting to have more than 1?

[stable umbra]

upgrade it for 4 charges

[proper crystal]

ah

[indigo patrol]

is cenotaph good?

[dawn hearth]

is it like a ground pickup or a chest item?

[carmine cypress]

hm, I am stuck with chapter2/oblivio - Complete Sperrow tailes ... i did all long time ago...where to go? wht to do? any suggestions?

[wet tulip]

spectral sight

it should glow

[oblique zenith]

I thought this new fallen tower was by the MK? Is it somewhere else?

[wet tulip]

pretty sure its southeast

[opal fable]

bottom right

[oblique zenith]

Gotcha thanks

[sly escarp]

Pretty sure it's a 3 star

[dawn hearth]

after I get the first blue ribbon does the bird lead me to the rest?

[gilded rock]

Map shows you the spots.

[dawn hearth]

Cool thank you

[drowsy orbit]

Did any1 have any luck on getting Lyke Wake drops?

[sly escarp]

Heard someone got a drop

Haven't heard of anyone who finished the grind yet

[deep wagon]

Hello im underground in the stag quest i found the totem and went to exit throguh the last 2 circle doors that let you out into the open world again. The first door opened i went through and waited for awhile and the second door wouldnt open. I went back out the first door and it proceeded to shut and now i cant get out and im stuck underground

[sly escarp]

Drop rates are probably similar to the Mockery weps.

[sly escarp]

You shouldn't have been able to leave through the first door...sounds like it bugged?

[opal fable]

i ran the dungeon non stop for like 90 minutes and got 0 drops, plenty of cenotaph parts tho

and im not sure if you can pickpocket the mendicant dudes, since they pop out of the ground

[deep wagon]

yeah i think so now i dont know how to get out of here lol

[iron temple]

Hilarious though that I got 0 Cenotaph fragments but managed to get that 1 Lyke-Wake fragment...

[sly escarp]

1 of how many btw?

[deep wagon]

the bird is telling me to go through the rock lol

[sly escarp]

2?

[iron temple]

Yes just 2

[sly escarp]

Drat, uncommon

[echo steppe]

I got Locked out of soulframe because of armoury crate for some reason anyone know if they fixed that

[sly escarp]

Was hoping for a rare

[sly escarp]

Might be worth a relog

[iron temple]

Yes Lyke-Wake is just tier 2 and not tier 3...

Sword and Shield needs a proper tier 3... 😅

[gloomy hazel]

Nettle Fragments from Wyrm?? really!?

[wet tulip]

and grinn from the new siege xDDD

[proper crystal]

does the "slay agari" require cogah?

[wet tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-S5E6VIkBAGujjfT0zz

[wet tulip]

no

[proper crystal]

cool

just don't give it to me i guess

[wet tulip]

you need 5 kills

atleast for me

[proper crystal]

a mention of that would be nice

[wet tulip]

need 5 agari 15 smite pulls

if you got it as main after every agari you should see x/5

[proper crystal]

ah

there it is

[wet tulip]

summon birb shows it too

[proper crystal]

do vadagar count?

[wet tulip]

i dont think so because agari are the ones that drop the mushroom

[proper crystal]

i don't have eneough wevet seeds for this shit

[wet tulip]

just go north

[proper crystal]

please DE i need a mount

[wet tulip]

from spider to grull seeker ez 5 agari bosses

[dawn hearth]

Does the Duelo fight scale with your upgrades on longsword at all?

[wet tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[proper crystal]

it doesn't have riposte

[wet tulip]

easiest test is throw? and if no perfect throw you got ur answer?

[spring hamlet]

become the mount

[proper crystal]

are you offering?

[spring hamlet]

use wolf pact arm

and spam jump

[dawn hearth]

ok so I literally had HP left after the hit and still died lmao

time to walk for another 10 minutes

[frozen edge]

new codex entries doesnt seem to persist. I had a few animals filled in, none of them are still there after restart

[wet tulip]

having that too

some fully delete some partially

[bitter flax]

It seems to not scale with anything even the potion counts are separate.

I'm so glad that Duelo is over because they seem to have taken a turn toward awful soulslike difficulty this patch.

Failing a Duelo and making you run for 5 minutes to the next location and having Carmo have unrelenting aggression with constant 4-5 attack sequences while your own character staggers on a single hit feels super dumb.

I had to basically spam block and pray her flurry didn't hit me enough times when I got staggered down while tickling her with my attacks.

[dawn hearth]

Yeah... this fight might be not good lol

Why do I have to walk for 5 minutes per attempt

[wet tulip]

i went full courage with mandicant king armor and just brute force it with light attacks

[dawn hearth]

Death is entirely unpunished in this game except for now where it's a minimum 3 minute walk + a 30 second unskippable cutscene

[wet tulip]

didnt feel hard at all

[frozen edge]

you can cheese it as always with thrown weapons

[dawn hearth]

I tried that but then got stuck in a box after doing it and got one shot lmao

[frozen edge]

not like enemies can deal with elevation changes and range attacks in this game ever

[bitter flax]

Yeah, well I'm a spirit build and I don't want to be forced into courage or grace.

A game should be tuned for all archetypes not just Courage plate enjoyers as usual.

[wet tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ using the most squishy virtues and then saying tale fight is hard that lock your abilities. can you really blame the devs?

[dawn hearth]

We have decided that your build doesn't matter at all unless you're building courage

[wet tulip]

like the duel is a melee duel not magick duel

[dawn hearth]

she teleports.

[bitter flax]

Um, yes, I can. Especially since swapping builds is not trivial unless you've grinded for a while to craft and faction tales.

But these are FABLES, meant to be story quests.

[dawn hearth]

and summons clones

[wispy slate]

whats the best way to snag rune to complete a grand fble

[dawn hearth]

It's not a magick duel for YOU, she gets to use all the magic she wants

[wet tulip]

its the same problem like it was with bromius. starting players had problems with that too. after some time DE did nerf the bear quite a bit

so i guess give it time

[bitter flax]

and it's not like spirit builds are even the best caster builds, since the spirit arcanics are usually the worst too lmao

[mild jacinth]

In the journal, the list of enemies and animals, can they be discovered somehow, or not yet?

[wet tulip]

for enemies you need to smite pull from them. for animals just lure them with flute

[dawn hearth]

Also the bear spawns you next to it lmao, not all the way across the map

[wet tulip]

i mean not trying to be rude but you using the worse possible build combo is kinda on you

if the fight is too hard for you and you cant swap. doesnt it mean you better leave it for later?

[bitter flax]

Game designers are responsible for providing comparable options. Blaming players for not browsing third party websites to metagame or having archetypal preferences as if it's their mistake is certainly a take, but not one I'll ever agree with.

[wet tulip]

you are kinda forgetting this is DE

learn from warframe game where you cant do anything without having the warframe wiki open for quests xD

[dawn hearth]

I would enjoy the duelo, if you didn't spawn as far away as possible from the attempt and getting back to the attempt didn't take 3x longer than the attempt itself

[bitter flax]

I don't want to be cynical with a game that is still open to feedback and in alpha, not a full mature game with power creep like warframe lol

[dawn hearth]

Hope you didn't forget any of the jank parry timings in the 10 minutes you had to go around an entire lake

[wet tulip]

let me guess you havent tried the new siege with a full spirit build either ?

[bitter flax]

I finished that duelo, I just wanted to let DE know it wasn't a particularly fun experience for me, but I got my pact now.

Other players might just desist.

[dawn hearth]

nevermind I guess I'm just not gonna talk about it anymore

[bitter flax]

I did, and only got an 18th repeat fragment of Girn for that 30 minutes of suffering and nothing else since I had to sit on a rank 30 seathorn and oscelda to even complete that and got zero xp.

[sly escarp]

Usually the Fable fights are a bit unbalanced on launch. Downside of keeping your QA and design teams steady is that they get very good at their own game, so their sense of balance becomes off.

[wet tulip]

duelo fable might be hard for starting players but the biggest elephant in this update are the rune changes with the forced heavy charge attacks xD

[sly escarp]

We saw it with the Bromius fight too

[zenith knoll]

unless i'm missing something, enemy codex entries don't show loot unique to the cogah

[sly escarp]

Would expect some rebalancing of the fight over the next month as they find the right pacing for it.

[zenith knoll]

etheldred drops flitsmoke (in cogah) but this isn't shown in her entry

[dawn hearth]

Also, let me skip this cutscene

[bitter flax]

lol I wanted to emote bow during that duel but I was afraid to even try since that lady is satan incarnate and will shank you in milliseconds

[wet tulip]

you sure? flitsmoke was dropping from grull seeker in cogah in p13

[bitter flax]

at least you can block the pistol shots, if those went through block it would have been brutal

[rose wolf]

anyone else done the new siege yet?

[dawn hearth]

So... apparently there's a glitch where instead of 5 flasks you spawn into the fight with ZERO FLASKS

[wet tulip]

unless im mistaken?

[sly escarp]

Gruul Seeker Ruthos drops Torrent and Alca's Breath

[dawn hearth]

So... I lost an attempt due to a glitch just straight up not letting me heal sweet

[wet tulip]

yup i was wrong xD its from the spooder

guess cogah drop tables arent shown in the journal yet

[sly escarp]

Guessing it's to avoid confusion from new players

"it days Etheldred drops Flitsmoke, I killed her 200 times and only got Forburn"

[dawn hearth]

And since we got no swimming I have to walk all the way around the river

[bitter flax]

My only advice is probably abuse courage with oscelda or some drain tank BS because everything there hits like a truck, and it's a zoo of archers and casters with barrage of seeking magic missiles in a dark, narrow castle.

[rose wolf]

oh i have done it my only gripe with it is that those mages their projectiles go trough objects

[full crag]

My friend and I are trying to clear out the map fog. When we leave the nightfold, the sections of the map we cleared were fogged over again. Is this a bug?

[normal sail]

trees arent saved in coop fwir

[bitter flax]

They'll probably have to tweak the speed of those projectiles to be more like the Agari mockery boss, right now they fly way too fast.

[normal sail]

best to do them solo

[full crag]

oof thanks

[rose wolf]

i was more dodging that actually fighting them lol

[bitter flax]

I managed to deflect a couple but only when I had the last of them up, it was impossible to deflect with all 3 conductors spam casting, I had to clap each down with CC and sit on my Oscelda flower praying I didn't get 1 tapped during a heavy attack.

[warm marsh]

does anyone have not gotten all 3 deulo fragments after finishing the quest even after the hotfix?

[bitter flax]

at 318 health a single barrage from one conductor was shaving off 2/3 my health

[rose wolf]

i was running greatsword with ode tempest

so i was spamming the execute animation on them

ill prob try bow next time

[bitter flax]

I just need to give up on magick weapons and spirits once I finish leveling wyld tethren+tethren and sit on Paragon because Paragon at lv7 was killing stuff in triple or greater the time than my rank 30 Seathorn staff....

[livid vortex]

So, why do I respond nowhere near where I died now? It doent make any sense to me as to why. Even activated a closer respawn stone and still respawned further away than I should have

[rose wolf]

isnt purity better than paragon

[bitter flax]

maybe but I don't have Purity yet

[dawn hearth]

Okay so it's consistent, if you have 0 flasks you don't get more in the duelo, but any other number you get 5

[rose wolf]

i prob have the boss for it up i u want

[dawn hearth]

So in addition to having to walk there, you ALSO have to farm flasks

[bitter flax]

I don't like playing warrior archetypes or even archers at all, but since the balance currently is so bad it's probably what I'm gonna have to play if I don't want to raise my blood pressure on content that's on the Northeast of the map or Cogah

[dawn hearth]

So I hope I get some flask drops or I have to basically hitless the boss

[rose wolf]

u want mendicant u can dm me in game if u want it

[dawn hearth]

Can you summon other players for this? I am absolutely tired of this

[frozen edge]

what weapon category is the cenotaph? long blade?

[bitter flax]

Oh, thanks, I am currently at mcdonald's getting an oreo mcflurry though that duelo made me hangry XD

[rose wolf]

ur making me jealous

the mcdonalds is closed around this time for me

[bitter flax]

oh snap here in Miami they are open 24/7 and the days of "the ice cream machine is broken" are over after all the bad PR that got them lol

[rose wolf]

im from EU

Netherlands to be exact

[sly escarp]

Short blade pretty sure, no?

[wet tulip]

long blade

[sly escarp]

Oh. Cleaver type then?

Dang, Long Blades stealing all the 3 stars

[frozen edge]

thanks

[zenith knoll]

cenotaph's a-- damn

[wet tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ZyptoPower-more-moar-i-want-Z3pez2XOAb11naBDbh

DE be like

[frozen edge]

wish they'd stop releasing new swords, way oversaturated

[gray sand]

did the new update add more multiplayer stuff?

[sly escarp]

What do you mean by "multiplayer stuff"

They added more content, which you can do multiplayer. But nothing that must be done multiplayer.

[gray sand]

🙁

[rose wolf]

could we not also enter those big fallen towers now ?

[gray sand]

still singleplayer game

[wet tulip]

i think sessions can have 4 players now?

[sly escarp]

Game can be played solo seems to be one of their guiding pillars. Multiplayer is there for fun, but doesn't seem like they want to make anything that requires it. So far at least.

[sly escarp]

Uh wut?

[sly escarp]

Only one, in the SE

[wet tulip]

i was doing siege shares and some player told me we can have 4 envoys xD

but i didnt try since we were mid run

[sly escarp]

Think that player may have been mistaken, unless we missed a patch note.

[finite stone]

well if warframe's a singleplayer game I guess? The point of DE's live service games is that you get to choose whether to play solo or co-op. Like Elden Ring (not to make a souls comparison intentionally but it works here lol)

[wet tulip]

bunch of things missing from the patch note though

[sly escarp]

You can play multiplayer if you want to

[sly escarp]

Yeah, but still. That feels like a big one.

Like, talk about it on a devstream big

[dawn hearth]

So, how do I fix this?

[sly escarp]

Could try a relog

[zenith knoll]

so the rovgot wyrm doesn't have a codex entry

but ☝️ rest assured all 4 (5?) mendicant goons have one each

[sly escarp]

So the ones in the dungeon ARE different

[lyric isle]

possibly a dumb question. but left lick does nothing to this wondering soul. am i reading it wrong?

[sly escarp]

Pretty sure it's 4 and the 5th is Circade

[sly escarp]

Hold q, then left click while facing the ghost

[lyric isle]

i am ( and it isn't working )

[zenith knoll]

middle top is circade

bottom left and middle is both mendicant knights, right is mendicant thrall

[sly escarp]

Fascinating

[visual radish]

did they change where the wazzard spawns ?

[dawn hearth]

hgghhhhhh guess it's 10 more minutes of unavoidable walking to hopefully not die

[cinder light]

Now that's something. My game is red ( only on DX12, DX11 works fine) since the update. haha

[finite stone]

[frozen edge]

surprised they didn't relocate either discharged nimrod or that tower

[vague igloo]

walking simulator

[sly escarp]

Can confirm this is false, Helix just tested

[lyric isle]

not working tho 😔

[dawn hearth]

what on earth were they thinking lol

[vague igloo]

each time you die agaisnt the duelo boss you gotta walk to another shore to start another fight

[dawn hearth]

Why is there a fight that forces you to use a courage scaling weapon, no arm powers and no sidearm that ALSO makes you walk for 10 minutes every attempt also the boss cutscene is unskippable

[vague igloo]

i've spent the last 3h to walk die and walk and die and walk

[dawn hearth]

This is the single worst designed fight in the history of the game and I don't think I'm exaggerating lmao

[zenith knoll]

three wyrms so far, 1 cenotaph frag (yay) and 2 nettle frags (boo)

[frozen edge]

seriously just keep jumping back and throw. or walk diagonally immediately after going up the stairs

[iron temple]

I though Cenotaph (a scimitar?) is actually a rapier type like the rapier and cutlass...

[dawn hearth]

I have tried that but the first time I got stuck in a box and oneshot and the 2nd time the game just didn't give me the healing it's supposed to so I died in 2 hits

[sly escarp]

If that's the case the model looks VERY odd for a rapier

[frozen edge]

going diagonal past the stairs will almost guarantee to get her stuck and then you can just headshot all you want

[dawn hearth]

Also Multiplayer isn't working for meso I can't even do that

[wet tulip]

i just did too. so i guess that envoy was dreaming xD

[vague igloo]

having to use exploit of design to lock a boss down and kill it with throws is not what i would call a nice thing in a game

[hexed spoke]

how do you complete journal entries on animals?

[dawn hearth]

Very strange of the "Fair and honorable duel" archetype mission to let the other person straight up use magic but you can't even choose what weapon you wanna use

[hexed spoke]

just keep charming?

[vague igloo]

yep

[hexed spoke]

wish it counted the times i did it before the update kek

[zenith knoll]

she can use magic, but on the other hand you can dodge roll

that's magic in itself

[vague igloo]

she can more than just dodge tho

and at the speed she trust dodge iis useless

parry seemed my closest take and best option so far

but even in that you're nerfed cause no hat

[dawn hearth]

She also teleports

[zenith knoll]

havent tried duelo outside of the quest though, maybe it's harder

[vague igloo]

haven't even been able to do the quest since it makes me play with a wulder which i never ever used

[zenith knoll]

me neither and everything worked out fine

maybe invest in physical resistance and such

[mild arrow]

what does the 5 mean here

[dawn hearth]

YOU ARE KIDDING ME

I got killed in the cutscene, so as soon as I entered the fight I died

[wet tulip]

just did one after the fable seemed easier cuz i was able to life steal xD ( heal lost hp)

[vague igloo]

it happen if you dont kill all enemies around before entering

[dawn hearth]

and the fight spawned AS FAR AWAY AS POSSIBLE FOR THE THIRD TIME IN A ROW

[dawn hearth]

Oh more time wasting before I can actually attempt the fight that's sick

[vague igloo]

i told it, its probably the worse boss made yet

[wet tulip]

can anyone here confirm if you can heal the hp you lose? while in fable duelo fight?

[vague igloo]

some part of it yes ? there is like a yellowish bar you can recover by hitting oponents

[wet tulip]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_QPCwgKKk

[dawn hearth]

They should straight up give you infinite seeds while this stupid quest is active

[wet tulip]

my build for that fight

[visual radish]

i had my potions the whole time

[vague igloo]

looks a lot like cheating tbh, the guy had done her many times aready tho and have mostly best game in the whole thing there

[dawn hearth]

it is faster to logout the game to change the spawn location to one closer than to walk

[vague igloo]

i can't even have a rapier doing this fight, the game give me a wulder

[wet tulip]

i had the basic rapier xD

[vague igloo]

wulder is strenght based, am a saphene build too

[wet tulip]

i think the answer is high physical armor

[native drum]

I havent not played this in like 3-4 months (could be less) any thing changed really or all pretty much the same?

[visual radish]

the weapon changes in each wreck to match her story

[vague igloo]

i was done walking on the 18 times so i closed the game

[vague igloo]

did not for me

[zenith knoll]

the vadagar bear has a codex entry but not the vadagar stag

[vague igloo]

i think its random

[visual radish]

it matches each weapon she used while dueling her mestre

[floral palm]

Guys, which squirrel is he referring to when he says that?

[visual radish]

the final one being her rapier

[vague igloo]

am not the only onw who had the wulder like 5 times in a row

[zenith knoll]

the regular one

[wet tulip]

most likely because thats the last fight you got left to do

the vid i just made was my first fight after the fable

[floral palm]

is it to try catch one?

[frozen edge]

you need to beat each stage of the fight for the weapon to change

[vague igloo]

havent won any time agaisnt her

[zenith knoll]

that one, just keep charming squirrels you'll get there eventually

[wet tulip]

BUT the fable fights looked the same for me too

i just think you need to equip as much physical armor as you can

and she wont do that much dmg on you

[vague igloo]

man i can't have more

she just 2 hit me

[stoic marten]

how do you get the animals and foes?

[wet tulip]

show ur numbers

[vague igloo]

i have orengal amors

[iron temple]

Oscelda Vernal Pool hasn't been working for me at all since Preludes 14 launch...

[floral palm]

i had to get three to complete the mission

[waxen yoke]

Maestro is making me loose my mind. I die and she spawns on the opposite side of the map wasting a wevetseed

[wet tulip]

cant you show your armor numbers?

[vague igloo]

need to open the game

[wet tulip]

just saying orengal name doesnt help if we cant know your virtue numbers either xD

im asking to try with the build you have and to see if i get 1 tap too

[dawn hearth]

you don't have to beat the boss 3 times for Duelo right?

[dawn hearth]

logout login changes the location of her spawn

[vague igloo]

not sure where i can get more tbh

[wet tulip]

dayum 177 hp

[waxen yoke]

So you keep logging in and out until she spawns near you?

[dawn hearth]

And if so, where do you get the other fragments?

[dawn hearth]

yea exactly, it's way faster

[visual radish]

got all of mine from the quest

[wet tulip]

i can see why you get 1 tap now.

[vague igloo]

i usually don't tho she just hit like a truck

bear was a candy beside her

[dawn hearth]

oh there's more steps

[vague igloo]

in fact any boss is easy beside her

[wet tulip]

what weapons /totems you got?

ah know what lemme take this to DM's i dont wanna flood this chat

[trail forge]

Not sure how i feel about the rune changes yet, gameplay in previous versions was fast paced and fun when using runes and now kind of feels slow and clunky when using runes, whats everyone elses thoughts?

[novel ivy]

Weapon/totems don't matter, Maestro Carmo forces you to use the Navarro that you pull from the ship

[unkempt sphinx]

Anyone do burning sage yet?

[wet tulip]

does that mean your side arm gets deleted form your loadout?

[novel ivy]

For the duel yes

[graceful plover]

How do i complete the first 2 quest

[wet tulip]

then i find it weird how i barely take any dmg but others get 1 tapped xD?

[wet tulip]

if its filled you already did

[languid escarp]

yeah me too, i just face tanked her and she did no dmg to me lol

[wet tulip]

you got left with the wield rune

[novel ivy]

Different builds. It takes her about 3-5 hits on me

[wet tulip]

i mean my build wasnt crazy tanky

[novel ivy]

But I'm also not great at melee and still working on trying to beat her. Fair enough

[wet tulip]

literally orengall top and pants with 34 grace and 318 hp

[full crag]

Anyone know if the island is traversable?

[graceful plover]

how to learn a rune? and find the stag fable

[languid escarp]

i was using bear armour, all courage build, her hits did less than a mm of hp bar

[novel ivy]

I still only have base oscelda armor and about 272 health with current build

[wet tulip]

you already did the stag one

[languid escarp]

and i get that hp back from hitting her her back too

[wet tulip]

ikr its exactly what i did in my vid

[dawn hearth]

LMAO
I killed her with a weapon throwing attack
so our final clash my weapon just wasn't in my hand lol
so she's just grinding her sword against thin air

[novel ivy]

Im also only like 50 hours into the game though so like not complaining about my lack of skill, and her fight is still really neat mechanically

[wet tulip]

its fairly possible the fable isnt bug free. and its fairly possible some players face a duelo fight off the charts

1 thing for certain this fable isnt for the starting players

[novel ivy]

I mean there was the duplication bug on wipe before the hot patch xD which was amusing and would have been cool if her arena wasn't a small ship

[wet tulip]

not like you need a big arena for a melee fight anyways though

[novel ivy]

No but there's not enough room for let's say if she kept multiplying one at a time each wipe and you wiped 7 times, 8 Maestra Carmo's and you.

Before the hot fix i had only got to the point where there were 3

[wet tulip]

lol how. the dodge ability should spawn only 3 xD

[novel ivy]

It wasn't the ability. On wipe she would just duplicate randomly because some times on wipe instead of the instance just expelling you it was acting like a normal overworld death and you'd have to return to retriever the instance and it would start with 2 of her. And then 3, and potentially so on

That was one of the things the hot fix patched

[wet tulip]

clearly a bug lol xDD

[novel ivy]

Yeah it was interesting and again would have been a cool accidental feature in a larger arena

[vague igloo]

its really lame but i again only got the wulder so i just cheesed her

used the boat as obstacle and killed her with throw, i hate that but eh

[mild jacinth]

When you pull the sword from the wreck and fight her, are you supposed to keep dying? I’ve fought her 4 times and been almost instantly killed

Wasting so much time traveling to the different ships

[frozen edge]

Judging from the feedback so far, its probably not designed for newer players

[wet tulip]

apparently you can cheese the auto capture animals by exiting and starting the flute over and over till it works xD

[mild jacinth]

New players, lol I’ve been playing since preludes began

[vague igloo]

the boss is bugged

[hexed spoke]

ahh lucky mine wasnt bugged i just spammed attack for the quest didnt even take 1/4 of my hp kek

[frozen edge]

I think it takes your armor and hp into account.

[wet tulip]

mostly armor hp dont matter too much

[frozen edge]

I went in with lowish armor cause I was cosplaying Fire King while leveling Moras Hand and can only take 2-3 hits

[novel ivy]

It does only thing it seems to replace during the duel is your main weapon and treats your side arm as non existent

[frozen edge]

but the game has so much trouble hitting moving targets that it barely matters

[wet tulip]

LOL got a rune from duelo fight

[waxen yoke]

Finally beat her. Realised I was too passive and started treating it like a souls game

[normal sail]

i mean thats just how fencing is, its a sword dance

[frozen edge]

I really like the idea of parries and ripostes, but not the way DE does it. The wind up is so long on almost every boss that it feels wrong

[normal sail]

-# i havent played the update yet

[wet tulip]

yeah idk im 99% sure the people here having trouble with the fight have their fable bugged

no matter what i do i barely get dmg xD

i can brain dead spam light attack and still win

know what ill try next having no armor just the ribbon equipped

[normal sail]

the ribbot

[bleak elk]

How do you get into the skytowers.

[frozen edge]

only the SE wastes one is open afaik

[zenith knoll]

let's not speak of this ever

should NOT have gone into it with a magic build

[wet tulip]

kk just did maestro 0 armor xD

and 318 hp

uploading vid

[grave valley]

hey yall, how do I get the mastro armour

[loud badge]

is the sword from the fight meant to be a simple looking sword or a rapier?

when I find it at the ship i mean

[wet tulip]

keep doing duelo fights after fables with the ribbon

[wet tulip]

when you do the fable its random i think

[frozen edge]

it changes each stage. you start out with a basic sword

[wet tulip]

the ones after fable seem to be always rapier

[loud badge]

ok

[grave valley]

ah so wear the ribbon then interact with sword?

[wet tulip]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_QgzMmGvvg

if i managed to do this with 0 armor and 318 hp i think it aint that super hard

[loud badge]

She's killed me 4 or 5 times so far, maybe its the armor i have on that slows my character

[wet tulip]

i didnt even use hp potions

[mild jacinth]

Are you supposed to bow, I haven’t been

[wet tulip]

idk i simply do it cuz i like the extra dialog

[zenith knoll]

you're supposed to bow but she can call you out for not bowing

[wet tulip]

could be if you dont bow she claps you xD?

[vague igloo]

okay so why is your boss hitting in the emptyness of space when mine is a sniper

[wet tulip]

with extra dmg

[loud badge]

I didn't know there was a side step in this game

I keep dodge rolling

[young linden]

where can one provide feedback?

[wet tulip]

i simply dodge alot ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mild jacinth]

I’ve tried fighting her 4 times, killed every time