gameplay-discussion

[thorny glen]

heavy melle attaqck with this bow is shorter range than daggers

[spare badge]

When did they change that? Back when I ranked up the factions, it was locked behind each faction selling its own pact/armor.

[finite stone]

Ooh a while now, it might've been... P12 or something? I'll check patchnotes I'm curious (edit: rip I don't think it was in patchnotes, but maybe a p11 hotfix like wagiii says)

[spare badge]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1476937632637391042

[smoky crater]

Not too long ago... Like p11 maybe

[sly escarp]

Each faction now sells the other starting pacts and weapons outside their own

If you want a second Wulder, gotta swap to Alca's or Rose

But it makes it easy to collect the starter set

[strange fossil]

Doesnt garren rood excel at crowd control?

[spare badge]

Used to be that was just the tales doing that...

[smoky crater]

Yes

[ebon wraith]

I'm talking about grouping enemies not crowd control

[strange fossil]

Ahhh

[sly escarp]

There's not much grouping as the game is meant to be much slower and more methodical

[ebon wraith]

To make that bow more useful

[spare badge]

Maybe the ram pact will come with a sheepdog ability?

[strange fossil]

That'd be awesome

[sly escarp]

You can taunt enemies together with Sirin's 2

But that would only really group the melee units

[ebon wraith]

Sirin 2 barely works

[smoky crater]

Mainly on enemies that arent 1. Very close to you or 2. Actively targeting you already

[strange fossil]

Yea I use sirins to try and pull them in for hail of arrows. I feel like when it doesn't work it's due to placement I've been playing with it to try and see why but I haven't pin pointed it 😔

[spare badge]

Sirin's decoy is supposed to be a means of "grouping" enemies because they're all supposed to attack it.

[smoky crater]

It's not the same kind of forced taunt as it used to be

[ebon wraith]

Most of the time enemies will look at that decoy for split of a second and keep charging at you

[chilly brook]

i don't like Nimrod T.T keep dying to him

[ebon wraith]

That's the main reason I avoid sirin atm

[smoky crater]

But you can also just use the 2, then the 1 to keep them near the decoy

[spare badge]

This is due to a bug. Same one that causes Orengall's wolves and enemies to ignore eachother.

[ebon wraith]

Orengall wolves are waaaay better then decoy

[sly escarp]

There's def a priority system for aggro, and currently players seem to be at the top of that list, when a few abilities rely on being higher to work properly

[spare badge]

Only because they're mobile.

[strange fossil]

I tried to use orengall but I don't like it because if I'm fighting close range werewalker is sooo awkward to use

[smoky crater]

It's not meant to be used mid battle even

[ebon wraith]

They still hold more aggro then decoy

[strange fossil]

I wish it was 🥲

[spare badge]

Yeah. Somewhere, there's part of a patch note that mentions that DE made enemies priortize the Envoy over infighting with eachother, which is what's affecting the ghost wolves and the decoy. It's the exact patch that broke them.

[ebon wraith]

Well I can say for sure range doesn't affect priority:)

[strange fossil]

Lol did any of you die from wazzards homing spell after you killed him? I killed him then thought the spell would end and got hit in the back and killed 😂

[chilly brook]

why is it as melee long sword, i mostly use throw weapon T.T?

[spare badge]

Yeah. I made a bug report on that. Sinecure were fighting some slugs way off in the distance and then ran over and focused on me, when I should've been way outside of their perception ranges.

[ebon wraith]

Had it when I just started running bosses

[ebon wraith]

I mean with the decoy the moment you aggro them with a bow and use decoy at long range they still run to you

[strange fossil]

I been trying to aim the decoy straight at the target or use the powder and lay the decoy down for when the powder ends to see if it helps

[ebon wraith]

The only way to force them on decoy is when they are unalerted

[spare badge]

That's a problem, too. And it ties in with the bug I'm talking about. Enemies that are just barely in draw distance range shouldn't automatically know where the Envoy is.

[strange fossil]

When they do target the decoy sometimes I can even hit sneak and pull a backstab out of it so I'm usually pretty determined to make it work

[spare badge]

The real strat is to pop decoy then go into butterfly disguise.

[ebon wraith]

I'll wait till they fix sirin for now ode Spiderman tempest is my go to

[strange fossil]

Yeaa I try that too. Backstab then butterfly then doubleebackstab 😂

I'm working to unlock ode but I heard it makes the game way to easy so idk if I'll actually level it

[spare badge]

No. Use decoy, then butterfly right after. Enemies will target decoy since they can't see you, then boom, decoy explodes.

[ebon wraith]

Ode was OP in p11

[strange fossil]

Ahhh that's a good idea I'm gonna try it when I get home

[strange fossil]

See all the info I find ends up being dated 😅

[ebon wraith]

Then was gutted but now it's alright melee pact

[spare badge]

Are you using the wrong sources of info?

[strange fossil]

Just Google and clicking around at the top two or three that show up

[ebon wraith]

I use it with the dual daggers side weapon and it's fun without flintsmoke even in cogah

[spare badge]

Yeah... Don't do that. If you need info, go here: https://wiki.avakot.org/

[ebon wraith]

Only Dimrod and knell are dangerous if you miss an attack

[strange fossil]

I heard before they changed it I guess you where just invulnerable like half the time so you ended up being unkillable

[strange fossil]

Thanks 🙂

[umbral egret]

I'm having a tough time getting value out of greatsword.

I get knocked out of my light combo pretty regularly and the heavy doesn't seem to do enough damage to justify the swing speed.

Am I missing something, or is there a way to get stagger resistance or something like that?

[strange fossil]

I want them to ramp up the damage on roods stampede because it actually has a really cool toolkit other than that

[ebon wraith]

It does good damage on full spirit build

[sly escarp]

Full grace?

[strange fossil]

I know for sirin there's a stagger resist spec in the tree

[spare badge]

It used to give X amount of hits of invulneerabilty or until it timed out. Whichever came first. And cooldowns didn't wait for abilities to finish before starting. They were all once cast, the ability went on cooldown, so you could spam abilities in any pact.

[sly escarp]

All pacts have it as an option

Rooted

[ebon wraith]

Ah right grace my bad

[umbral egret]

This must be why. I just unlocked Garren and am leveling it and it feels like I am getting just whipped around way more, so I need to just pick this skill up soon.

Thanks!

[half ledge]

hows this work?

[strange fossil]

Imma try it then with sirin trickster I should have plenty of grace

[ebon wraith]

Shoot the glow points

[umbral egret]

shoot glowy

[sly escarp]

Aim reticle and press the number keys shown on the sides of the reticle

[strange fossil]

Highlight the glowing parts then press the sequence to play the organ

[ebon wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/eeren-piano-orgel-organ-playing-gif-18753947

[strange fossil]

Don't move the cross hair as you play the sequence just keep it targeted

[visual radish]

Aim with mouse
Numbers in order shown to shoot
Target the glowy bits

[umbral egret]

I think I like Polearm more than Greatsword, at least until I get some stagger resistance. The light combo is very good.

[half ledge]

got it thanks

[ebon wraith]

Great sword with treefell rune is fun

[spare badge]

Never got it to drop. Got burned out trying.

[ebon wraith]

I can help farming it tomorrow EU time as I'm on graveyard shift

[strange fossil]

I got some rune from depleted Nimrod.. wind something. But it didn't show up as equippable on my bow or sidearm

I figured it was for a diff weapon or something

[spare badge]

D-Nimord only drops runes for flyblades.

[strange fossil]

Ahh I'll check it out imma see if I can find the rune on the site you sent me

[spare badge]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Runes

[chilly brook]

are there fast travel?

[strange fossil]

Hurlwind was the one that dropped

[spare badge]

Yes. But you have to complete the Waste Bear fable to unlock the sapling that procuces the fast travel seeds.

[chilly brook]

oh ok

[strange fossil]

What the heck is voltaic damage? 🥲

[spare badge]

Electric.

[umbral egret]

Oh that does look fun, yeah. Idk how far out I am from getting that but I'll keep an eye out

[strange fossil]

Ahhh. Well the extra defensive rune slot it gives you alone is awesome

[ebon wraith]

Mendicant king drops it in cogah mode

[umbral egret]

I don't know what any of those words mean yet lol

[ebon wraith]

South west corruption zone there is a boss and cogah is a hard mode which boosts enemy damage and health and gives you debuffs

[spare badge]

When in doubt check the wiki.

[umbral egret]

Oh neat. Idk if I'm ready for that kinda content yet, I just barely started being able to handle Crypt lol

[ebon wraith]

No worries take your time and enjoy the game/scenery, if you rush too much you will burnout

[umbral egret]

Yeah I tend to just pick a goal and play towards that until I finish it. anything that happens along the way is nice.

I unlocked Garren and a Greatsword today so now I think I'm gonna try to focus on a few new armor pieces because the Tethryn gear is all I've got currently.

[sage socket]

How do I get more weapon update thingies... The circleish things I forgot what they're called

[ebon wraith]

Good strategy! That is how I started and now I have everything and done everything besides new bow. Now mostly helping newbies and trying out different builds

[umbral egret]

Nice! Yeah I have a few weapons I could craft but I decided I'll save resources and only craft what I want to play with in that moment, for now, until I have a good backstock of resources, in case stuff I really want comes up.

So far I have seen a couple pieces of the flame lord set show up and they look beefy so I'm gonna just focus those I think

That and trolling the rivers for pearls :p

[ebon wraith]

I found hunting banneret from faction tales gave me decent amount when was grinding for rep

[umbral egret]

Yeah, I'm like 75% of the way through all of them, so its just a matter of rng now lol

[thorny glen]

sparrow tales that end in dungeons give 2x rep for your time

[finite stone]

If you want to learn about the damage types you can check the https://wiki.avakot.org/Damage page - though bear in mind we don't really know much right now (and Geoff confirmed in the Envoy Hour that these are still undergoing a lot of work from the design team)

[vital sable]

do we know how much "defense" does each point in physical or magical defense roughtly gives ? like dr%

[ebon wraith]

I think defense here is flat and not %

[finite stone]

You may want to check the https://wiki.avakot.org/Glossary hahaha

[dire helm]

It's flat, according to everything I know. Meaning 15 points of defense means 15 less damage taken.

[vital sable]

hmm, wouldnt that mean that enemy dmg is relatively low right now ?

[ebon wraith]

Depends on your armor and enemy level

Also enemy type

[vital sable]

i assume we dont know any enemy atk that I can use as a benchmark

[finite stone]

Not sure which of the two enchantments you mean, but you can find info on both on the https://wiki.avakot.org/Enchantments page. Click the one you want to see where it drops

[dire helm]

It also means ours is relatively low, and lower-damage, but faster hitting weapons are disproprotionately affected.

Harder hitting attacks have a strong advantage in that everything above the enemy's armor value is damage. Faster hitting lower damage weapons have to subtract armor for each hit.

[vital sable]

i guess theres no way for certain to know how much dmg, lets say, a lvl 20 mace barennette swing does exactly

wanted to have so numbers so i could compare armor sets after all

[dire helm]

It's more important to know which attacks are physical, and which count as magic, currently.

Otherwise the better armor is the one with the higher number. It's literally that simple.

[vital sable]

well not exactly

HP values are also important

[dire helm]

Armor doesn't directly affect hp values, and becuase it's not % based, it also doesn't create an effective hp situation like warframe's does.

[vital sable]

yes armor doesnt affect hp values, but its important to know when deciding whats tankier

[sly escarp]

Well, it does kinda create an effective HP situation, but it has to be calculated per hit and not as an aggregate

So there's moreso an effective oneshot hp

[vital sable]

an armor value of 220 is meaningless and squishy if 200 of those points is stability

[dire helm]

Yeah, but I did say it was important to take into account whether an attack was magical or physical.

So obviously stability only matters as much as you wanted it to.

[vital sable]

yeh, but thats a different issue that i will cross when i get there

[half ledge]

some got a ss of the whole map unlocked? im tryna find all the trees

[half ledge]

ty

[safe pelican]

Do pacts have passives? If so, how do I check them?

[knotty moon]

First two Arts are the passives.

[safe pelican]

so the left and middle ones are passives?

[safe pelican]

Ahh I see. thank you

[flint inlet]

Vernal Pool is so OP and I love it

[broken hamlet]

can we get this armor in the q please and thank you

[finite stone]

+1 more Ode outfits please DE!

-# and please buff Ode weaponry to be usable 😭

[vital sable]

interesting, if my calcs arent wrong, I believe Max Courage Arbearer would actually "tankier" on the magic side than Wazzard

all because of the massive HP pool

[wet tulip]

you mean tankier as in total armor?

[vital sable]

no, effectively how many magic hits both could take before dying

Arbearer would actually be tankier than Full Spirit Wazzard in magic

[wet tulip]

woah thats hard to calculate

[vital sable]

not really

[wet tulip]

since how can you know how much magick armor lowers magic attacks

[vital sable]

since we are assuming that defenses are flat, you just assume a flat 100 dmg hit and run the numbers

[wet tulip]

exactly " assume" we cant know that

[vital sable]

its the current concensus

but honestly, it wouldnt be hard to believe

the difference would b 1 hit btw

[wet tulip]

so you are telling me if lets say a wazzard full spirit has 79 magick armor . any magick attack less then 79 will deal 0 dmg?

[vital sable]

it would deal 1 it seems

[wet tulip]

why? if its flat

it should be 0

[vital sable]

also max wazzard on spirit has 51 w/o quest virtues or potions

79 is kinda unrealistic

[wet tulip]

2 geese totems +30 xD

[vital sable]

cuz when we do that on enemies it deals 1 dmg

[wet tulip]

on top of 49

[vital sable]

im not counting totems

[wet tulip]

thats the numbers i had

[wet tulip]

but they are still active even if they dont show up on the total armor numbers

[vital sable]

but thats not really the point im doing this, im looking at armor in a vaccum

totems augment the base numbers

[celest orchid]

Are the defense totems working?

[wet tulip]

im simply looking at peak full spirit and full courage

[wet tulip]

yes

[vital sable]

they are working, just not displaying iirc

[sly escarp]

According to DE it's a UI bug

[vital sable]

yeh, same here, im just removing variables and doing base lines

the more one adds, the needlessly complex this would get after all xD

[celest orchid]

Thank you!

[wet tulip]

yes but if armor is flat negating dmg it changes the full spectrum of the test

since theres a big different between 47-51 magick armor to 79-81

[vital sable]

but when it happens on enemies, we deal 1 dmg, so it makes sense when we "negate" dmg, we would get 1 dmg as well

it wouldnt make sense that enemies get 1 system, and we get another that works completly differently

well, not when the numbers we deal are currently small-ish

[wet tulip]

why i said its hard to determine these specific tests without actual data on how armor works on the envoy side

because the enemies side might have a different armor scaling

and we cant know exactly the flat base dmg enemies have before armor even kicks in

to do any armor scaling calculations

[half ledge]

anyone got a good magic build?

[wet tulip]

all we got rn is " hp drops by this amount"

[vital sable]

i do notice that most enemies reduce my dmg for around 20 points

[pine gate]

Do tokens still drop outside of faction tale quests

[vital sable]

around lvl 20-25 that is

[knotty moon]

Yes.

[vital sable]

armor or weapons ?

[half ledge]

both ig

[wet tulip]

hard to answer this question since magick builds are on the lower side of the table

[pine gate]

Hmm my rng is just bad I guess been farming aince yesterday and I only have 4 baskbulb im going crazy

[wet tulip]

the courage and grace builds are way stronger then the "best magick" builds

[half ledge]

yea ik but ive always liked magic and they will add more stuff for it so ima just stick with it

[vital sable]

If u are scaling Spirit, Try Medicant. Assuming u can reach the courage requirement, if not, Regent or Steelsinger
for magic weapons: Rat for dmg splash, Hit reduces defences, extra smite chance and then your desired defense upgrade

[knotty moon]

I got 12 Sineculum, 18 Baskbulb, and 20 Sinners' Stratagem.
I basically only done Organ and Sieges, didn't touch Tales at all since H5.

[wet tulip]

then id say better go courage scaling odiac with mandicant armor

[vital sable]

idk why odiac is arguably better than basker when basker is harder to get imo

[wet tulip]

well first of all basker needs more attunement points

not that its hard to reach rn

[vital sable]

both my builds for them deal the exact same dmg

[wet tulip]

odiac got base 6% smite while basker got 4%

[vital sable]

theres only 1 difference, Odiac has better smite chance

[vital sable]

and thus its better imo

[wet tulip]

yup

[misty estuary]

tbh it goes Seathorn > baskers > Odiac > Estroot from what ive seen

[vital sable]

its funny to imagine a new player does Lighting in a bottle, they kill the Nimrod, they get a free odiac from quest and then an Odiac from nimrod and gg best sidearm just like that

[misty estuary]

Magic sidearm with Normal rune or Flyblade with either rune for the best defense spread

[vital sable]

flyblades are more support than dmg for me

[wet tulip]

idk why i think erstroot is better then seathorn xD

[vital sable]

u can proc smites super easy, slow enemies down and shread defense super easy

[wet tulip]

x3 smite chance

and seathorn only got +4 on the base dmg

[misty estuary]

my flyblades do I think 110 per hit(?)

[wet tulip]

i guess seathorn reach higher dmg cuz its rare

[sly escarp]

That's a +10 diff at cap at least

[vital sable]

at that point it depends i think. If u have a smite proccing sidearm, then your main wep should be the one with more dmg

[wet tulip]

yea but the x3 smite chance does a big difference

[sly escarp]

Uncommon vs rare both cap at +1.5x

[sly escarp]

Oh, it's not good, just saying it's something at least

[vital sable]

not saying it doesnt do enough dmg, its just the totems it has are so good for utility instead

ligering slow, def shread, smite procs that can be easily deployed for me is more important than its dmg

[wet tulip]

yeah idk i really think erstroot is better xD

[half ledge]

where do i get the rat weapon?

[vital sable]

rat is a totem

weapons is whatever you like

Odiac for sidearm, basker is the same but less smite chance
Erstroot or Seathorn for main staffs, just take your pick until you get both and u can compare for yourself

[safe pelican]

Where are the gathannan fragments drop location?

[candid star]

Hey, so- question. I remember rescuing a wolf yesterday from chains- and today it randomly showed up and helped me during a faction quest? Is it like a random event after you do that short side quest, or am I supposed to do something?

[dawn arrow]

Talk to me as a 5 years old, why is the smite chance display not percentage based or atleast all x in 100?
1 in 20 = 5%
9 in 100 = 9%
Did I get it correct?

[sly escarp]

That's the next step of that main quest!

[sly escarp]

Correct

[wet tulip]

welcome to soulframe where the only actual numbers you get as riddles xD

[candid star]

Oh- do I talk to them or something?

[sly escarp]

Yup!

[candid star]

Oh- Cool! Imma talk to the puppy now- brb

[wet tulip]

at least we can still see dmg numbers and it isnt on the pow/ ouch scale

[torn dove]

Me!

[wet tulip]

OMG i just noticed. the motes are gone

https://giphy.com/gifs/sad-kid-pouting-fhLgA6nJec3Cw

[candid star]

Oh damn- the puppy is really strung up- told me to lay and prowl for their brood? what do I do now?

oh nvm quest just wasn't selected

[earnest jasper]

dms

[exotic gale]

this new bow, this aint it, chief

[wet tulip]

yeah too bad its a rare one too

[candid star]

Question- what does attunement do, exactly? A bit lost on how the system works

[exotic gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQQ08-hrtqM

[strange fossil]

Ok alcas breath Vs torrent for bow runes which one do you guys prefer and why? I'm trying to decide which to farm for first lol

[exotic gale]

Torrent, no contest

[strange fossil]

Alright thanks. How often does that homing shot proc from alcas breath?

[sly escarp]

Why can't you farm both?

[sly escarp]

Homing shot?

It just adds damage to your arrows

[strange fossil]

It's not exactly a homing shot it says it has a chance to create a field when doing damage with an arrow

That attracts a shot you miss

Something to that nature

[sly escarp]

Ah, that's seemingly a bug. It's the Void status proc from Warframe

[exotic gale]

Torrent, Flintsmoke, and Durglint
I'd argue they're all busted strong right now compared to the other runes

[sly escarp]

Since damage types don't have status effects, it doing that seems like a bug

[strange fossil]

Flintsmoke sounds absolutely awesome I saw that one

I thought torrent sounded cooler too because I like things that give visible additional animations, damage aside

[tidal vigil]

How do you parry when using a bow? I have some augments I can put on mine that give buffs to it

[halcyon thicket]

Same as other weapons

"aim" at the right time

[tidal vigil]

Oh okay it didn't seem like much movement but I see what you mean. Thank you!

[spring marsh]

Torrent is absolutely busted, can confirm. It's also really good at destroying your frame rate.

[tepid plinth]

Im very defensive of my frame rate

Its all mine

Shoo

[lament path]

Torrent + full spirit oscelda birds combo for chronomancer build.

[spring marsh]

Does spirit still affect duration on non-spirit abilities? I figured the birds duration would be on grace now?

Wiki says duration is 2+Grace seconds now

[safe pelican]

how can I spawn the stag?

im here and i can hear growling

but no boss

[smoky crater]

is it day?

[peak gust]

What is max envoy lvl right now? 17/18?

[jagged pilot]

how can i increase more courage even more i have the talisman that gives 4 i have wyld thethren prism

[languid escarp]

mora's beast prism and the talisman from kith of kings gives +6

the prism is from kith too

[jagged pilot]

i dont have access to that one yet i chose sirin

[upbeat cradle]

i was thinking, for the quick time events (like when the vadagar bear pounces and tries to eat you), wouldn't be better if it was a sequence of inputs (like when charging the organ lightning) rather than pressing the same key over and over?

[visual radish]

Yes

[spare badge]

No.

[upbeat cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/samuel-smile-reverse-reverse-metal-gear-metal-gear-rising-gif-21248744

[spare badge]

As someone who has clumsy hands, QTEs are bad enough. Multi-imput QTEs are the one thing everyone hates about the classic Residnent Evil 4 more than Ashley.

[peak gust]

Does the new bow do anything crazy

[candid star]

Apparently it’s a courage bow if I’m remembering which one it is correctly- Could be good for courage builds that want a ranged option or just like bows.

If it’s not Avex then idk

Also- does anyone know of any good spots to grind for scrap steel? I need 18 more for the wolf pack

[smoky crater]

heavy attack is a melee attack instead of arrow rain 👀

[thin hazel]

like the good ol days of melee bows??

[smoky crater]

yes

but... not light attack meleeing ._.

[thin hazel]

that's gonna make me nostalgic already XD

awww

[smoky crater]

im sad too

[thin hazel]

but still!

[smoky crater]

t'is a good start

[peak gust]

Just loot all the racks at fort curlail without lighting the balloon and log out to reset

What kind of melee is it. A shove?

[spare badge]

Except that they have it backwards. Back then, light attack was melee and heavy attack was shoot. Now, heavy attack is melee and light attack is shoot.

[thin hazel]

it's a uno reverse card!!

[spare badge]

No. It's just bass-ackward...

[pallid sentinel]

Mages supposed to be glass cannons, but I'm just glass. On Сogah all very sad, when a warrior can quickly deal with a boss, but I need a tethren to do anything. My Seathorn enchanted with spirit, with a druid prism that gives 40 spirit, but still I does very little damage.

Is this a feature of magicians now, or am I doing something wrong?

[spare badge]

Also, the arrows are backwards.

[spare badge]

Oscelda.

[pallid sentinel]

With Oscelda I can't even damage Nimrod, it deals 1 damage on cogah

[spare badge]

Then you're doing something wrong.

[pallid sentinel]

I guess the weapon has some damage cap, so I need replace the spirit enchantment with grace and add Ora prism so that the spirit and grace are at 25

[pallid sentinel]

I suppose so, but I don’t understand what the problem is.

[lament path]

Cogah nimrod kinda needs cloudquell or else you dont have the damage output to counter his healing. Aside from that your main ways of doing damage tend to be killing his minions for smite to then focus on him, petrification and hitting hard or birds and execution.

[spare badge]

You sould be doing good damage to agari with Oscelda's bestone ability followed by a heavy attack, for magic weapons. The birds should allow you to annoy them into stun state, so you can pull off finishers. The healing should well, heal...

[lament path]

I play oscelda as courage - spirit hybrid, some way of reducing armour in a totem is well needed with regular attacks.

Shield for example with armour reduction on parry

[spare badge]

Trying ot parry nimrod/d-nimord is not a good idea, though.

[lament path]

Nimrod is actually not that bad, but painful if you time wrongly
Kinda immortal with the healing flower

[pallid sentinel]

Oh, so that's how it is. I thought I could do many damage on tethren without spamming heavy attacks -_-

[knotty moon]

Its quite a lot better now, might be too much of a risk in Cogah though.

[sly escarp]

Or Bestone + Arrow to the face to oneshot almost anything

[spare badge]

Yes, but they were asking for help with magic weapon.

[lament path]

Bestone plus polearm throw is kinda addicting

Polearm throwing is really good

[sly escarp]

Oh

Fair

Yeah

Bestone + headshot heavy isn't bad

[lament path]

With magic weapons.. Yeah heavy spam is how you usually fight against bosses

[spare badge]

Bestone + thrown paragon isn't bad, either.

[sly escarp]

Make sure to take the slow on heavy totem, it's amazing at keeping adds off you

[lament path]

Greatsword throws hit hard but are really slow

[sly escarp]

Honestly Bestone + a bunch of grace + any headshot is pretty good

[lament path]

Magic also has arts that go through multiple enemies, bullied medicant and his minions at the same time so hard with magic oscelda

[spare badge]

That's why you bestone the target.

[lament path]

Yeah it definitely needs bestone for it first

[sly escarp]

Yep, and some of the heavy attacks are a wide arc

[lament path]

Used it often on bosses with greatsword

[sly escarp]

Like Erstroot or Seathorn

[slim portal]

please stop sending me south

[sly escarp]

So if you can hit a bunch with the heavy attack they all get slowed

[slim portal]

https://giphy.com/gifs/teamcoco-crying-cry-l2JhtKtDWYNKdRpoA

[lament path]

I liked odiac because it made me feel like artificer from risk of rain 2

Big lightning orb

Slowing totem is probably one of the best totems

Works even on bosses

[sage socket]

Hi stupid question but what happens if I die and don't return to my body.. do I lose items or smt

[sly escarp]

Reduced effect but yeah

[sly escarp]

No, you just respawn at the stone

[sage socket]

OKKK THANKSSS

[lament path]

Reduced effect but it feels more noticeable because their attacks tend to hit harder

Stag and bear especially get near frozen

[unborn glen]

so do level 3 faction tales always take you into a dungeon now?

[prime marsh]

a bug that is new for me

broken ui

cant exit menu

and i run with it around/ it stays when i enter the nightfolyt

[fierce flax]

how to get acces code guys

[halcyon thicket]

Go to tuvulkane interact with her and click on material's

[fierce flax]

i want play also I already download but can't play

[sly escarp]

#envoy-gathering message has a list of all the ways you can currently get access!

[vital elk]

bro how do you solo the moose boss after that lady

[sly escarp]

Timed dodges and application of lots of violence

[vital elk]

bruh mk

[unborn glen]

i have a code if you need one

[sly escarp]

While we appreciate folks may have disagreements about sharing or playing together in co-op, this isn't the space to make accusations against individuals, thank you.

[twilit lance]

Moose boss?

Did..did I miss something

Or are we talking about the stag

[slim portal]

playing with randoms always bring that risk 👆

[twilit lance]

It also isn’t even a big deal

[peak gust]

I'm not getting any more votives have I capped on xp? I've only gotten 15k

[slim portal]

votives are the tales, are you not getting favor(xp) or no new votives(tales)?

[peak gust]

No votives are being offered at all

I checked two trees and the reps that spawn after you finish a tale

[slim portal]

you get them through world trees

[slim portal]

oh, relog

[peak gust]

The only thing I have available is the organ

[slim portal]

it resets it

[peak gust]

Kk

[umbral egret]

Man, I've been trying it out all day and Greatsword just doesn't feel good. The combo itself is fine but the other weapons just feel so much better.

[safe pelican]

How do I spawn vadagar bear over the stag?

[slim portal]

it's at night time

[nocturne oriole]

I believe the bear is during day and stay at night

[safe pelican]

both are seem to spawn at night, im playing with a friend and in my world the stag always spawns but in his its the bear

[nocturne oriole]

Tbh, I’m not sure. Just my impression but there should be something more definitive on how to spawn each

[daring elk]

can anyone please explain what is the goal of this game?
can't seem to get any result for over half an hour....

[sly escarp]

It's bugged atm

Can only roll 2s and 0s

[daring elk]

and turns seems to be random

sometimes I get 1, 2 or 3 turns in a row 🙂

[sly escarp]

Your opponent rolling a 0 skips their turn

[slim portal]

the sneaky avakot is cheating

[daring elk]

at least I bought some useful stuff from him 🙂

[daring elk]

it's always 2

[slim portal]

it seems he bribed the devs(currently bugged :D)

[sly escarp]

He has no leagl moves on a 2 roll

[daring elk]

he used forbidden spell "donate extra" XD

[slim portal]

[sly escarp]

His end piece needs a 1 to reach the goal, his piece near the end of th blue is blocked by your piece in a safe zone, and his other piece is blocked by that piece

[daring elk]

we are in stelmate for all the time 😛

[daring elk]

I only roll 2s all the time

[sly escarp]

Yep

As said, bugged

You're meant to be able to roll between 0 and 4

[daring elk]

so in the future I'll pray to RNGsus to praise me with exactly what I need 😛

[daring elk]

no 4s for me
only 2s

[sly escarp]

As said

Bugged

Can currently only roll 2s

[daring elk]

I got it mate 🙂

[slim portal]

close to 30 t3 tales and only 1 seathorn fragment

i'm about to lose it, if i purchase it and i get a fragment i will delete it

[umbral egret]

So does everyone just not use this gate because of the dumb placement making it stick you in a spot you can't move from?

[slim portal]

[sly escarp]

We found a way to us eit but it's not ideal

[daring elk]

don't let random numbers decide 🙂
farm the hell of it 🙂

[sly escarp]

Have you been running Dungeon Tales too by chance?

[slim portal]

my time is very limited, keep farming the same thing since the launch of p13

it gets kind of tiring

[daring elk]

positive thing is that you're getting materials for crafting for the future 🙂

[normal sail]

only time I use the gates is when there is no viable means (mountain) that covers the wall

my jump button gets a work out

[daring elk]

https://tenor.com/view/spam-spacebar-spacebar-gif-26859210

[nocturne oriole]

Is that the one with the tree basically on top of the lever?

Yeah, I’ve had to use
/unstuck both times I used that gate

[peak gust]

The daily cap is 30k right for standing and it rests at 7pm est?

Or in 10 mins

[keen river]

so i'm in the crypts

i step on this first pressure plate, which opens the doorway in front of me leading to this second pressure plate, so i step on that, and then.......? what's supposed to happen?

[peak gust]

And is the standing capped for all the factions at 30k total or 30k each

[slim portal]

soo.. why i cant give this to avakot for example?

is the feature hasnt added yet?

[umbral egret]

These sell to factions

[slim portal]

ooh.. sell, now it makes sense lol

thanks

[strange fossil]

He doesn't damage me but it I attack him he levels me and my weapons

I could just attack him forever

[brave oak]

this green border seems new

[umbral egret]

Is it generally better to go all in on a scaling stat like courage, or is it okay to just get courage to the number I need to equip gear and then raise spirit so my abilities hit harder too?

[fallow spire]

a little of both, weapons scale better the more you level up its scaling virtues

[safe pelican]

How do attunments affect joineries?

[nocturne oriole]

At higher levels split virtues are viable

[candid star]

Is blitzel a good bow for early on? Looking to replace Thistle, since while it’s serviceable, it’s not great, especially compared to what I’ve seen people do. Just got my first fragment from the fort too, so it’ll be something to work towards maybe?

[nocturne oriole]

It’s a solid bow def better than Thistle

[candid star]

Nice- just gotta get a second fragment and make it now

[nocturne oriole]

Archer world boss drops its fragments

Might also lick out and get Alcoa’s Breath rune

[clear vessel]

Fastest way to do organ imo,

Is since you got the discord to get someone to invite it via here

Since being invited will TP u over to the organ saving alotta travel time.

[safe pelican]

Whats the difference between poleblades and longblades damage wise and what is generally considered better?

[clear vessel]

If you mean pole blade as in. Polearms?

Polearms have a lot stronger synnergy with throwing and perfect throws

Easily over 600 on a headshot

And it knocks anything that survives down for ground finishers which is an easy 300+ more damage

Even if it's like a 150 damage throw to the head.

[clear vessel]

Long blades have an art I haven't seen on other weapons,

(Magic weapon joinery asides)
boosting damage of consecutive attacks
.
So they're my go to when I wanna do stuff like parries and perfect dodges instead of perfect throws (that requires holding down buttons frequently and my fingers get sore from that )

[safe pelican]

Thanks for the rundown. I personally never interacted with the throw system and playing on controller It just feels much harder to aim.

[languid escarp]

yeah the aim sensitivity has no effect so if you wanna lower it gotta lower look sensitivity...which sucks, hopefully they address this somepoint

[clear vessel]

Maybe there's an aim assist toggle?

But even then idk how you'd get that to aim for the head

[spare badge]

Sort of. But disabling it disables your ability ot perform ground finishers.

[safe pelican]

controller aim assist is already enabled and im alrdy struggling lol

[clear vessel]

Oh that really sucks wow.

[spare badge]

You just gotta work at it and get a feel for the aming with individual weapons. Throwing Marrow's Bane at something is goinna be different than throwing Sollos, Igne Mora, or Paragon.

[exotic gale]

man... these really sucks that only those who level up the fey pact can get mastery 18

[spare badge]

Just wait for DE ot add 1 more thing in and you'll be able to, too.

[nocturne oriole]

17 is level cap, 18 is bugged. An' one more VP at that point isnt a big deal

[exotic gale]

18 isn't bugged. It's just those who played pre P9 and leveled up Fey got the mastery pts

[spare badge]

Yeah. DE just didn't delete the 0.1 mastery. We don't know why. Maybe they plan to?

[sly escarp]

It seems Only some accounts with Fey Pact still have it too, though with so many sources of Envoy Rank it's hard to tell

[spare badge]

Do we actually have data to back this up that can prove that those without the extra 0.1 had the pact ranked up?

[clear vessel]

True, some of the daggers have a way faster throw charge

Like grin vs the royal tines

Could be cuz grin is a side arm tho idk.

[sly escarp]

Oh, no, more meant some account that maxed Fey Pact are saying they don't have the XP anymore

[spare badge]

I don't have everything ranked up, so can't really test, as I can't really tell a 10% difference in the 17 fill amount visually.

[exotic gale]

Did you have Fey maxed out in the previous Preludes?

[spare badge]

And I've got a cold, so I've been more chatting and less actually playing the past few days.

[spare badge]

Yes.

I max ranked it soon after the p7 reset.

[hexed spoke]

do quests increase mastery level?

[exotic gale]

It does not

[nocturne oriole]

Not directly. Quests and Faction will give XP for pact and weapons, lvling those to 30 will increase MR/Envoy lvl

[hexed spoke]

thanks just wanted to check since i havent bothered with the 3 new ones

wanted to see if i havent missed anything. im 3 weapons away from maxing everything

[trim otter]

how do we get access to the game? im dying to get in, been signed up for weeks 🙁

[nocturne oriole]

Wednesday Dev Stream on Twitch, watch for 30 mins

[safe pelican]

Is there a way to make the perfect throw gauge bigger?

[sly escarp]

There is not a Dev Stream on Wednesday

[sly escarp]

#envoy-gathering message has a list of ways to get access if that helps!

[strange fossil]

What's the easiest way to encounter the collector for the first time? It seems like I always see it as it's ascending and miss it lol

[safe pelican]

I tried out the throws for the first time and I'm seeing damage numbers I've never seen. I've got gathannan cooking in the stove and I wanna be more consistent with my perfect throws but the gauge is so tiny

[hexed spoke]

@trim otter you answer my pm is another way

[fringe tendon]

the faction leveling goes hard

[sly escarp]

If you see it flying head towards it, it only moves every 6 hours

Has an audio cue as well

[strange fossil]

So just keep running around to all those spawn locations? 🥲

[nocturne oriole]

Tuesday, my bad

[sly escarp]

The locations is shared

Just ask someone in here where it is

Someone will probably know

[strange fossil]

Ahh ok ty

[sly escarp]

There is no known dev stream (or envoy hour) this coming Tuesday

Those are scheduled events that happen twice a month and we haven't gotten the schedule for March yet

[fringe tendon]

as far as leveling goes I miss having a place like Hydron in Soulframe

[sly escarp]

Arena?

[nocturne oriole]

The Glades

[fringe tendon]

level 30s right?

[nocturne oriole]

Up tp 60

[strange fossil]

Did all of you come from Warframe? I always play ESO and FFXIV but id just been eyeballing this forever. I never even played Warframe 🤭

[fringe tendon]

well i'm not there yet lol

be careful if you start Warframe you'll never leave lol

[pulsar tundra]

Would quicksilver: polished be a good joinery for the avex

[strange fossil]

Everyone always references stuff from there and I miss the significance I figured most of the people here started there it makes sense

[nocturne oriole]

for a small boost without resetting weapon with Blessed joinery. Try it our for your build

[fringe tendon]

personally I like using polished because then it doesn't reset my weapon to zero

[fair surge]

Is there any way to start over from the beginning with a new character? I took some time away and would like to experience a reset but cannot for the life of me figure out a way to do so from either the client or in-game menus. Thanks!

[nocturne oriole]

Ive enough polished of all joineries to just slap them on whatever sidearm Im lvling

[pulsar tundra]

One day I'll get there

[strange fossil]

I switched to royal tines instead of a bow for sirin and it's awesome I feel like an assassin fer sure. Plus all the smites I get now as long as I don't get hit much I can just wreeeeck 🙃

Still super squishy but oh well lol

[nocturne oriole]

you gave pact points in healer and sympathy? that will help

[strange fossil]

I'll try it I haven't yet. I just used the animal thing for the weapon that gives the 14% increase to perfect dodge

I was looking into getting a rune where I could attach two of them and just having a big window to nail dodges

[nocturne oriole]

try it out. comsider a Gualdar joinery for life steal

[strange fossil]

Alright thanks 🙂 I'll look into that right now on the wiki

[safe pelican]

Do pacts also give passive virtues?

[long grove]

negative

[safe pelican]

So it all depends on virtue prisms and talismans?

[candid star]

Question- where do I find the archer world boss? Is it just the fort or is there another location too?

[nocturne oriole]

northeast of map, near northeast world tree

[candid star]

Which direction of north east world tree?

[nocturne oriole]

slighly west, theres a small hill, youll see some statues on it. he is up there

[long grove]

prisms are distribution but but what adds to it is envoy rank, talismans, and the pact perks can get up to +6 for each virtue

[candid star]

Thanks!

[brisk owl]

Just got back into it and im wondering if theres no way for me to get the guide skin (cardinal) from the thawtide event. Or if everything from that event I can no longer get?

[candid star]

Now that I’ve got the fragments, I also got Alca’s breath- but I’ve got no clue how runes work.

Is it from like- the volley or something?

[lethal tundra]

@candid star pull smite to activate the rune

[nocturne oriole]

Gotta smite an enemy worth the time equipped on weapon then with Alca it increases bow arcanics

[gilded rock]

It will be back next year

[candid star]

Ooooh- okay- so Smite is inportant for rune activation, got it, thx!

[lament path]

That is why extra smite chance totems on utility are used so often yeah

Runes, healing, damage

[umbral egret]

How much tougher is the mendicant king on hard mode? I did okay in the regular version and got the fire rune but I'd sure like to get the other greatsword rune :p

[frigid spoke]

not, if you do him 1st thing he'll only be lvl 35

kill a bunch of other bosses n he'll be higher lvl

[umbral egret]

Only ones I've killed are the tale bosses

[frigid spoke]

cogah doesn't work loke that.

It is it's own mode. You drink a potion n everything starts at 35. Kill more bosses in that mode and everything gains lvls the more bosses you kill

[lethal tundra]

@candid star

Alca's Breadth ups arrow, damage shot and rain of arrows.

Your foes disapte in a flurry of pale gold.

[lament path]

Armour is going to be a lot more noticeable on mendicant king, while he hits a bit harder it isn't changing too much there.

In my opinion he is one of the easier cogah bosses though

[umbral egret]

Got it. I think ill level upp garron rood a bit and then give him a try.

[lament path]

Generally adviced to have max level weapons and pact on cogah, you can go without but if you die it is a waste of a potion

[marsh rune]

Anyone know if Scry for magick weapons actually work? I don't feel like my weapons properly lock on.

[marsh rune]

I'm not sure that Scry actually locks on to anything but breakables...

[gilded rock]

Yeah that seems broken

[frigid spoke]

Scry doesn't actually do the locking on, it allows lock on from further out. You have to right click on an enemy to lock on then left click to attack

[marsh rune]

Maybe they should change the term to aim instead of lock on then because it's certainly not "locking on" to something.

[frigid spoke]

Literally says allows lock on from further away

[marsh rune]

What I mean is in the general sense of a lock on mechanic.

[frigid spoke]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[marsh rune]

Because this feels more like manual aiming than an actual lock on mechanic.

[frigid spoke]

right click then left click

you can manual aim by holding right

[ivory arch]

Is Igne Mora a good weapon?

[long grove]

it may have the worst smite chance on longswords, but it's alright. i like using it

[mighty crystal]

Anything is a good weapon if you believe hard enough

[ivory arch]

I can craft it but would it be worth the investment if I have a lv 30 wulder already? i just want a stronger weapion to farm Marrows and purity

[chilly brook]

the world tree is purely from explore? or there a way i can find them easy?

i just finishi the bear and no idea what to do rn XD

[past drift]

You'll want to build it for mastery anyways

[severe hedge]

ok what even scales with oden tempest bc until DE gives detailed statistical information for tooltips then I am lost - since im still figuring out how the virtues scale in the first place. Just maxed out my first bond with oscelda, and moving to oden tempest - just curious

[calm crown]

I have killed the Sinecure-errant Vell and the Mendicant King in Cogah so many times . . . and I can NOT get Treefell. My son has gotten it 3 times! ARgghhhh

[chilly brook]

how do we unlock fast travel?

[pulsar tundra]

Is the north most vendor bugged?

[gusty dagger]

Gotta get seeds

And only 6 a day

[long grove]

well you get 1-3 on a 12 hour respawn

[gusty dagger]

So dont fast travel at all tbh

Save them up and wait

[chilly brook]

O.o, the map is huge, are there a faster way to travel lol?

tbh, after killing the bear, i have no idea what to do

[past drift]

just collect weapons and armor sets. grind faction tales and get prisms etc.

Orengall has a faster travel mode with wolf mode. Nothing wrong with using wevetseeds though

[chilly brook]

yea, but i have no idea where to get those XD

or where them faction are

[humble zodiac]

how do you use the Sineculum

???

[normal sail]

Give this item to Fenn Jotar in the Kith of Kings Enclave to gain favour with his faction.

you can use them at either Silent Rose or Alca's Children for a lesser amount of standing however

[humble zodiac]

how do you give it to them

[normal sail]

should be in the "where do i stand" menu

[humble zodiac]

ok ill have a look

[ebon wraith]

Click where do I stand* and there should be a sell tab

[minor path]

Is it me or did they change the look of the pacts

[ebon wraith]

Faces were changed

And I think they did something with lighting

[normal sail]

steve is constantly playing with the lighting code

[ebon wraith]

[minor path]

The wolf pact doesn’t have the claws out all the time anymore

[normal sail]

oh yeah it only pops out when you do the kick/swipe attack

it was driving some of the fashion peeps crazy (and 'impaling' animals we rescued)

[minor path]

Now I need more weapons for spirit/grace please DE

[ebon wraith]

[minor path]

And a pact too

[ebon wraith]

I would like magic focused pact

[minor path]

Ocealda?

[ebon wraith]

Oscelda is support

More of a you're a wazard Harry type

[normal sail]

nah they mean a full on caster offensive pact

[minor path]

Oh

[patent solstice]

Pacts are just preference

[minor path]

I want a hybrid spellblade pact 🥺

[patent solstice]

[dawn arrow]

Mora gave me the impression of a fire mage

With Basker's Wrest + Explosive rune and you are set

[ebon wraith]

mora is more of a melee fire starter with a fireball

[clear vessel]

damn

does dying to dungeon agari despawn it?

fighting the sinecure ones for dewilion fragments and hes gone now

[ebon wraith]

maybe he ran somewhere, try using your sparrow

if not then he might have fell under the ground

[clear vessel]

ah damn

sprrow beelines to the exit

[ebon wraith]

maybe you killed him?

like a rune fire finished him or something

[clear vessel]

nah was using stealth shortblades

but also i havent really figured out what the orbs do, bonus voltaics on green orb, doesnt seem to have much in terms of feedback

[ebon wraith]

might be a glitch of sorts...

ode tempest?

[clear vessel]

yeah didnt count, hes alive still on dungeon run 2

[ebon wraith]

guess he glitched on first run

[clear vessel]

yep the skills don't really feel like they do anything, (also not sure what the passive of voltaics on kick.grapple does since it still only does single digit damage even when neear the, allegedly voltaics boosting green orb)

also alas 2/3 dewillion still

[ebon wraith]

the green orb increases stagger on enemies and opens finishers

blue is like a shield, in P12 it was for 1hit but now with new scaling no idea how many hits it can block

the voltaic damage is pretty much non existant... like 1-5 damage

want to join me for a siege? im just leveling new sword

about to start kearnhold

@clear vessel

[clear vessel]

ah sure

or am i too late?

[ebon wraith]

whats your IGN

[clear vessel]

also Zeebuoy

[ebon wraith]

you need to be outside dungeon

[clear vessel]

ah ok ty

[ebon wraith]

woohoo

[severe hedge]

can you stack or collect wevet seeds

because I am not collecting wevetseeds. I keep maxing out at 2

[knotty moon]

Up to 100.

[severe hedge]

I should have roughly 6 rn, everytime I collect the wevet seeds it just keeps me at 2

[ebon wraith]

i had similar bug but with a cap of 12, after P13 patch they are bugging out even more

[knotty moon]

🤷‍♂️
https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788

[sullen meteor]

I've had the same issue since coming back this prelude. I've gone and collected 3, left nightfold and told i had 0. Gone back and then been only able to collect 2

[clear vessel]

you could, but theyre bugging out like crazy rn, cogah potions too

[languid escarp]

i've had the same bug and i kinda got a temp fix...collect the seeds and close the game, seems to make em stick

[clear vessel]

fun fact, if u need to get back to enclave without using seeds, go to night foold, open item wheel, right click, and music emote to go to eternium gardens, leaving plops you out super close to the enclve area

[severe hedge]

i see welp lmfao

[severe hedge]

huh interesting

unrelated tho, this game is absolutely gorgeous - able to run it at 144 fps in any location and in the dungeons 180 fps

all at the absolute maximum for settings. Fantastic

[sullen meteor]

Ah that's good to know. It's been a teensy bit annoying as i've been saving them for fast travel near to the Organs so with only 2, i'm still having to run to one of them which my teeny legs don't enjoy

[severe hedge]

if i had a 1080p monitor instead of a 4k widescreen i would probably be able to run it at 180+fps no problem at any location

[severe hedge]

its a pervasive enough issue that I think it will be solved soon enough. I am quite excited about wevet seeds + mount for the solution to traveling large distances. I actually like this system a lot

cant wait for a mount anyway lmfao

[sullen meteor]

ooo i've not seen anything about a mount! I swear, i never walked anywhere that i didn't have to on ESO so i'm glad it'll be on here too. I'm also hoping my partner tries the game soon so i can see how it looks on a curved monitor.

[knotty moon]

They plan to release the mount this year.

[ebon wraith]

Soon™ xD

[severe hedge]

they have gestured at it, i think later this year anyway itll be in the game, but in a game like this they will have to if they are using wevet seeds as an inbetween for "fast" travel. The world is interesting to explore, but sometimes I am just not interested in foraging and collecting totems atm. Or engaging in random fights along the road.

I play a ton of warframe and I think a gamemode they need to take some inspiration from is the descendia. I would love to see "dungeon towers" - essentially massive structures that players enter and clear multiple levels in to gain rewards, standing possibly, along with other things.

one other thing that might help overall is that once more world objectives or operations are added into the game, each enclave may like focusing on attacking the Ode from different angles. So Organs for example may provide extra standing towards one faction, and while it benefits all factions maybe the alca really like it when you tackle organs. Whereas another faction may like you dealing with the drop ships or whatever other "operation" more since it deals with their "territory" or specific concern with the Ode

What I am really hoping for, tbh, is the reintroduction of 4th abilities, as well as deep specialization in each pact. Maybe we dont need a vast amounmt of pacts, but rather a selection of very high quality, diverse pacts which have deep progression. I believe that would fit the theme of Soulframes mechanics much more in the long run. I would also value Wyld variants of the pacts being more than just a better or extended version of the pact, but a new twist or take on the pact it is based on overall.

it doesnt have to be crazy varied like classes in WoW but probably somewhere inbetween what we have now and WoWs class progression

[ebon wraith]

Steve did say they have plans to add more sieges and possible raids

well wyld=prime they went with same idea/system

[severe hedge]

I wish for greater divergence from warframe in this respect, but I want as much polish as rebecca brought to gamemodes in warframe into soulframe.

I want steves creativity and design imagination for player elements, and rebeccas polish with mechanical world design🤣

[ebon wraith]

reb actually went more with the community and implemented QOL stuff that Steve ignored

[severe hedge]

then i want that

XD

[knotty moon]

They outright shown the mount in an early Devstream.
(also the puppy fetching the sword after throwing it)

[ebon wraith]

when Reb took over WF it received tons of QoL that community asked for a long time

[severe hedge]

sorry i forgot the people who are leading or developing the world and level mechanics of warframe, i feel bad about it cause im a bit drunk rn

https://tenor.com/view/dead-gif-24973773

pls bring back ultimates steve i liked them

[ebon wraith]

Reb was community manager back then

[half ledge]

if u change factions does the one u had before stay max lvl?

[ebon wraith]

yes

[half ledge]

ok may i ask how do u change ur faction and where do u see its lvl

[ebon wraith]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Enclaves all info about them

[half ledge]

still fairly new, how does the armor stats work?

[gusty sky]

you hit the 20 red and then you get it to give you stats that aren't 6 phys, 3 magick and 4 stability.

[knotty moon]

Number on the right is the base defense, number on the parenthesis is the added defense from Virtue scaling, if you don't meet the requirement there is no scaling.

[safe pelican]

Is envoy rank like mastery rank?

[gusty sky]

yes

it is mastery rank.

you gain it the same way as mastery rank. By completing locations (instead of mission nodes, it's finding all the mote fragments in each locale) and by leveling weapons/pacts to 30.

[safe pelican]

Aha I see, thanks. Kinda weird that mastery rank gives you stat increases tho

[half ledge]

ok last question, how do i get my courage up?

[gusty sky]

you put points in the courage stat in your pact's skill tree, equip a courage talisman, or equip a courage focused prism.

Likely though, you're gonna have to go with the prism.

[half ledge]

alr cuz ive been going spirit cuz i main magic but someone told me this armor i should use

[gusty sky]

And they're telling you the best armor for courage, if you're spirit focus, you want the wazzard armor instead

[knotty moon]

Courage potions (1h) or repairing Echo Stones (10min) is also a temporary way of raising Courage.

[half ledge]

i asked for the best build for magic and they told me
(If u are scaling Spirit, Try Medicant. Assuming u can reach the courage requirement, if not, Regent or Steelsinger
for magic weapons: Rat for dmg splash, Hit reduces defences, extra smite chance and then your desired defense upgrade)

[wet tulip]

if your stats are low you should use lower scaling armor first

[gusty sky]

Steelsinger does scale heavily off spirit, but if you're going spirit focus entirely, then at some point you'd want wazzard. Also yes, you want armor you can actually scale with by hitting the requirements.

not regent

Basically your main thing, pick armor that has highest stat with your current allocation of virtue.

simple as.

[half ledge]

yea i was going for best build for magic in general just the best one i could make since ik magic isnt as good as grace/courage builds

so was just tryna copy what that kid told me was the best

[wet tulip]

@half ledge if you are going to put all of your virtue points in spirit. this is your end goal in armor ( for now)

[knotty moon]

Steelsinger is only slightly worse but much easier to get though.

[wet tulip]

you get steelsinger fragments from bisalcum canons i think

[knotty moon]

Yep.

[wet tulip]

and wazzard from organ

BUT yeah i suppose steelsinger is more flexible for your current stats

[knotty moon]

14 should be reachable if you get the +4 Spirit Talisman (Orengall's Fang).

[half ledge]

ok bet tysm and i suppose once i get better i can always tweak it and change stuff but in the mean time this helps a lot

[wet tulip]

@half ledge people told you mandicant is "better" as in later on you can go hybrid courage/spirit builds to have more hp ( and have odiac as your main dps weapon)

[wet tulip]

investing 18 pact perk points into all the virtue bonus perks should help you out alot since each of those give +6 to each virtue

and you can work to get your hands on this by farming crypts

[half ledge]

alr bet

ok last last question what pact should i run?

[wet tulip]

if you know how to get that talisman i wont spoil it to others that dont know in this chat

[knotty moon]

The one you like best, there is no real difference other than playstyle.

[wet tulip]

imo oscelda should help you alot early on but it really depends on how you like to play

[half ledge]

ight well im running that rn and its not to bad

[half ledge]

i dont know u can just dm me if need be

[wet tulip]

k if you want just tell me

[knotty moon]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Festival_of_the_Circade

[wet tulip]

i can even join your host and help you out

im at the position where i lvled everything so i got free time to do what ever xD. ( and helping starting players sounds like a good cause to build up our community)

[half ledge]

it really is cuz if not for yall i would be so lost

[wet tulip]

either way feel free to invite me into your friends list in-game. " same name as is in this discord"

and dont be shy to ask for help

[half ledge]

alr ima add u but gotta go to bed its lowkey 4:22am but ill def hit u up tmr if ur free

[random wing]

I have a question. If I haven't unlocked cogah but I want to get runes, specifically the archstorm one. Is there a way to aquire runes before cogah

[wet tulip]

woah thats quite the time difference xDD its 11:23 am for me

[wet tulip]

you can join others hosting cogah runs

[knotty moon]

Archstorm is not a Cogah rune iirc.

[half ledge]

oof lol well i added u

thanks for the help

[wet tulip]

np " cookk " right?

if we both online feel free to pm me xD

[random wing]

I did not know that. Have not been able to get it in the many times I've done the wazzard but never gotten that rune

[wet tulip]

all runes rng is lower apparently since all agari respawn every 30 mins

[knotty moon]

RNG, sometimes it is like that.
Iirc all the +X% Damage runes are not Cogah, the ones with weird effects are all Cogah.

[half ledge]

yup, have a good night or ig good day lol

[random wing]

Did not know that. Thank you all.

[narrow condor]

What does envoy forge mean

[verbal galleon]

Hi, i finished the bear quest, but so far i don't get anymore story line quest ? is that normal ? what to do next.

[safe pelican]

What's the best courage+spirit build?

[wispy gale]

@pallid sentinel seathorn hits like a truck, no tethren needed. apart from that tethren is garbage now since the nerf

[pine mason]

Hi, yep it's normal. You can explore or do votives (quest from the world trees). The game is still in early state of development so there's "little" to do in "mainquest" but plenty to find nonetheless.

[deep rune]

Look for orange balloons around West (not the Orange balloon that is up high on the fort, but rather the more grounded ones), any of them will lead you to the Wolf quest if you have not done it already.

[clear vessel]

Anyone wanna do some kearn hold in like a minute or two?

Tryna get dewilion

[tulip crater]

From what boss i can get Arbearer armour set ?

[deep rune]

Vadagar Bear & Collector

although I think the chest part does not drop from Collector so probably best to focus on Vadagar Bear for the whole thing

[tulip crater]

Oh i see , thank you 😄

[sage socket]

Do I have to enter the dungeon to finish the brewer of hues quest?

Why does the enemy keep reviving omg 🫩🫩🫩

[safe pelican]

What's a good build with gathannan?

[frigid agate]

I haven't played since last week, did DE change how Defensive Totems on our 2ndary weapons work? They no longer add towards my total defense.

[deep rune]

Courage with Tetheren / Wyld Tetheren is simple and strong. Pair it with Orbiting Flyblades for a very high chance of smite and the Flame rune and you can kill Cogah bosses in 2-3 normal attacks with your Ability 1 & 2 and Rune activated

[safe pelican]

Do I pair it with o'paladine virtue prism?

[lunar atlas]

what if adding joineries lessen the virtue requirement for weapons? I think it will be good reason for reforging a weapon

[deep rune]

Whichever one you have that gives you a lot of Courage will do. Also, this build makes you very tanky, wear the Arbearer armour if you have it

On your Flyblades tree, prioritise adding whatever gives you an increased Smite chance. As you get close to the monster, activate Tetheren Ability 2 then activate Orbiting Flyblades (by switching to your side weapon and pressing the Heavy Attack button), switch to your main weapon then start attacking. There is a very high chance you get smite at this point. Once you get smite, pull it and activate Ability 1 then just attack and the enemy will die in 1-2 seconds

This works well with any Courage weapon, not only Gath

If you add the Slow Totem on your Orbiting Flyblades, enemies will rarely hit you and when they do, you take low damage since you are Courage and have Tetheren Ability 2 up which increases your defence

[clear vessel]

wooo

[verbal galleon]

i freed a wolf mommy in chain once, but dunno if its same

[verbal galleon]

ok yes i did many of them, i think i only unlocked the plant guy faction

[deep rune]

Yes, that is part of the quest. She will now watch you from the shadows as you explore and kill enemies, to see if she can trust you. Once she show up again, she will ask you for help, has that happened too?

[verbal galleon]

nope she did not yet

[deep rune]

Nice, she’ll show up eventually, keep an eye out 😛

[slim portal]

i just realised that the wevetseeds that i've been taking since p13 are not registering

im going down in numbers lol

[lunar atlas]

1 more weapon pls DE

[lilac egret]

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[warped steppe]

Hello everyone. Please help. I'm getting an error when trying to log into my account: "Login failed." Does anyone know what to do?

[knotty moon]

Tried resetting the password?
Or check if you typed it (or the email) correctly.

[warped steppe]

To be honest, I haven't tried resetting the password, but I'll try that now.

[radiant oak]

thx

[clear vessel]

dont forget ur caps lock

[brave anchor]

Does anyone know if a stag that is in the level 25-32 votive quest can drop Gathanna fragments? Or does it have to be 33-36? Got one frag but am unsure what level the quest for the stag was

[knotty moon]

As far as I know level does not matter.

[brave anchor]

Holy hell I'm 193+ stags in and only one fragment

[knotty moon]

In theory yes, but I hear that it is fairly buggy.

[wary laurel]

dungeons /undercity - why dont the ghosts just die already... they revive grrrr 😢

[knotty moon]

The mockeries?
Spectral Sight + Pull Smite (defaults to same button as Light Attack) once they are disembodied.

[wary laurel]

ahhh thx but i didnt find those actions yet... i need to revisit keybind 😢

is there a phase called the soul mode ?

[knotty moon]

Spectral Sight used to be called Soul Mode iirc.

[wary laurel]

okay ic

spectral sight does mockery npc, suppose to glow / change color to let me know to do the pull?

[knotty moon]

Once the body goes down the soul should wander around visible in Spectral Sight.

Then treat it like any other Smite, except they don't trigger the related Arts.

[wary laurel]

im gona check for a video to know what i should look for the sign... npc doesnt do anything special when rip

[umbral egret]

Which is silly to me because why are they color coded then

[knotty moon]

With Spectral Sight on.

[knotty moon]

They do recharge the related Arcanics like the Smite, they just don't trigger the health restore (or extra damage, but that is pointless).

[umbral egret]

Also lol that keybinding changes don't update the UI to match

[scenic solar]

Well next northern organ is going to be one of three things: last fragment for the helm, last fragment for the bow, or the first fragment for the sword

[fierce flax]

How to play together can someone invt me i am newbie

[slender tangle]

How activate this?

[finite stone]

You've got to redirect sunlight onto the plate. Have a look around the adjacent rooms, do you see a beam of light anywhere? Is it being blocked by something, or directed the wrong way by a mirror?

[dull spire]

Anyone with a Gathannan farm route? Can i kill at night many stags? It really bothers me that in a few days i will have maxed factions, all items and many 30 level weapons, all pacts leveled up and still no signle Gathannan fragment 😄

[knotty moon]

ESC -> press the top left + -> type the name.
Also can do it from the Friends tab.

[slender tangle]

TY

[umbral egret]

Whats the deal with the Saphene glows messages that pop up every now and then? I think its just a list of stuff you accomplished since the last message of it's kind, am I right?

[wet tulip]

you get a pop up every time the state of the day changes aka day/night with the loot you acquired

same should happen if you go into nightfold

[umbral egret]

Got it, that makes sense.

[clear vessel]

I guess to show which ability they might reduce cooldown for

Since they rarely trigger tuned still.

[wet tulip]

i feel like im intruding their dancing practice xD

xDDD

[ebon wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-donaldtrump-actions-angry-politics-gif-12911382959022100261

[wet tulip]

hey its just national geographic photography i swear xD

[ebon wraith]

then its fine 😛

[sullen meteor]

Am i doing endless arena wrong? I've gone to the place, done the stag and initiated it. Online it says that they'll always start at Level 1 and work up but mine are always starting at level 18. I'm getting the waves to around 32 or so as a solo, but i thought i'd still have longer in there if they began at 1

[finite stone]

Just the day-night cycle, it's explained on https://wiki.avakot.org/Time:

[ebon wraith]

arenas are 20 waves and starting level determined by dungeon level where you found it

copied arena from other player often brings it to low level start

[sullen meteor]

ah thank you. So shall i try other entrances to check their levels? I did go to one but it hadn't spawned so i looked online and went to a different entrance.

[ebon wraith]

arena has a chance to spawn

[umbral egret]

I just picked up a second Everflame rune. Is there a point to having more than one?

[ebon wraith]

to sell and get 2500 dust to upgrade other runes/totems

[umbral egret]

Yeah thats what I figured, thanks!

[ebon wraith]

this is highest level dungeon for arena

[sullen meteor]

Yeah, i'd gone through the same entrance arena twice with no spawn so i gave up and went further inwards as someone said they'd had better spawn chance at that particular one. I'll keep trying to get the one for lowest level. I wouldn't normally mind but as i'm dying rather fast, i'm barely levelling things up

[ebon wraith]

its RNG... you can find it in 1 run and wont find it in 10.

[amber bolt]

Reaching cap so close to the next rank 🥲

Btw are the items to sell to the enclave subjected to the cap too?

[sullen meteor]

True. It's mostly for pact levelling not weapons. I'm not sure how much alca's stuff i can handle anymore lol

[ebon wraith]

i barely did arena while leveling, did some runs with bad weapons at start

i enjoyed exploring, farming different places/tales

[sullen meteor]

Don't get me wrong, the tales were fun for a while but as they're so repetitive, it became mind-numbing and the levelling up seemed to just stand still, hence why im going for the arenas now as saw that it takes around 4 or so runs for pacts

[chilly brook]

umm, on ogenrall quest, i just free her, how to get her next quest?

[umbral pebble]

How do i get a key for Soulframe?

[chilly brook]

this one idk, i think i sign up long ago

[ebon wraith]

i know xD i got all 3 factions maxed out

[ebon wraith]

#envoy-gathering pinned

[sullen meteor]

I freed her and then listened for distant howls that you'll hear sometimes. Keep going towards it and fight enemies. She'll keep popping up every now and then and will eventually speak to you

[chilly brook]

i see

btw, where do i see faction point? currently i have no idea what to do XD

i dont know what to do witgh these either

[sullen meteor]

You'll see your xp on the side of your screen when doing something which levels it up. But you can also go to your factions enclave (main hub) and ask "where do i stand"

[chilly brook]

main hub by esc?

i wish this game have easy travel, cause dam it big

[ebon wraith]

limited fast travel is here

[chilly brook]

why is it limited T.T?

[ebon wraith]

because you get 1-3 seeds per 12hours

[chilly brook]

currently so clueless what to do, where to get gear V.v

[sullen meteor]

Those are bonus add-ons that you can add on to your weapons. Attack, Defense, or Utility - so depending on where you slot the totem, it'll give you a bonus in that category

[ebon wraith]

quite meh of a weapon imo

[ebon wraith]

bosses

faction tales

[chilly brook]

like story boss?

[ivory arch]

is the only way to get more inventory space to use the runes?

[chilly brook]

do i go back to the dungeon or there a way to go to them?

[ebon wraith]

no actual boss https://wiki.avakot.org/Agari

[ebon wraith]

to use runes? you put it on a weapon

like this

[sullen meteor]

Your factions main enclave is the main area in which you'll see your faction leader and other faction players. Who did you go with?

[chilly brook]

courage

tethren

[ivory arch]

sorry not runes. Arcs

[ebon wraith]

courage is kith of kings

Arcs is premium currency and at this moment only obtainable for $$\

[chilly brook]

so just do the tales pop up in explore?

[ivory arch]

I know. Im asking is the only way to get more inventory space is to purchase the Arcs to buy inventory space

[ebon wraith]

world trees that you unfog the map

[ebon wraith]

yes

[ivory arch]

dang

[ebon wraith]

at some point it will be a tradable currency but not yet

[ivory arch]

nice, gotcha

[sullen meteor]

I'm not with Kith so just had to google it. Pretty sure i went there tho by mistake and the entrance has two soldier like statues in front
From google - The enclave is located southeast of the College of Pensives, on a cliff face.
The entrance is sealed until nightfall, when the message "Iridis Awakens" appears.
At night, the Ashen Spirit, a fiery boss guardian, appears and must be defeated to permanently unlock the doors.
Melee players should use throwing attacks or dodge-heavy strategies; ranged users (staffs, bows) have an easier time due to better kiting options.

[ebon wraith]

how many points would you like?.... YES!

[chilly brook]

oih, the fire king one?

[chilly brook]

how to lvl those up? it take forever for me T.T

[ebon wraith]

each weapon gives 5 points after leveling it to 30

and its once per weapon/pact

[chilly brook]

i see

[sullen meteor]

If you've already defeated the guardian, then just go back. That'll be your main hub for now. Find your leader inside and then ask them where you stand, they'll show you your level and amount of favours (which you can use to buy faction exclusive rewards)

[ebon wraith]

will look like this

[chilly brook]

i need to find where it is XD the map doesn't said the area name

[knotty moon]

I never noticed the creepy eye on top, now I can't unsee it.

[chilly brook]

why my have jumple name XD

[knotty moon]

Need to find the Motes and absorb them (same as Smite).

[rain sundial]

what's this thing in neathun dungeon?

[knotty moon]

Puzzle, find the water egg and place it there.

[chilly brook]

i see

[sullen meteor]

For now then just focus on trying to find world trees to unfog the map. Focus on the west side of the map. Make sure to keep tapping your birdie too incase you need to go somewhere specific

[chilly brook]

ok

[rain sundial]

bruhhh

[knotty moon]

Full explanation: https://wiki.avakot.org/Locations

[rain sundial]

found the water egg thx

[chilly brook]

if i have no quest, where do the bird lead me to?

[half talon]

The eyes and locks have been a running theme in the game since the beginning 😉

[loud reef]

I gotta build 1 talisman and 2 waz gears and I'm done!

[knotty moon]

The marker you placed.
If you don't have that... I'm not sure, it used to lead to the nearest Tale.

[half talon]

The bird will lead you to random points around the map, local mini quests (or fights). Usually randomly spawned enemies with a chest nearby.

[sullen meteor]

How far are you with your nightfold area?

[umbral egret]

Parts of this game are just ass.

I spent 5 minutes fighting the bear boss when he spawned in the south corruption zone only for his AI to have hi sprinting around the arena and throwing his aoe ranged without even a second of engagement on me because there are other enemies for him to be involved in fighting, so when he knocks me out with a stray I can't even get back to him to fight because he's sprinting max speed around the area

Its a terrible gameplay experience.

[chilly brook]

i just unlock the girl with the bear

that give fast travel seed

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345

[ebon wraith]

its not bear on her back xD

https://tenor.com/view/zoom-in-focus-closer-more-closely-close-up-gif-16062251

[sullen meteor]

the french woman?

[chilly brook]

ye

the one that give u seed

[sullen meteor]

Ah, the rats lol.

[chilly brook]

yea

[half talon]

Please provide your thoughts in #1438224662344761345 as it can get lost here in chat. We do ask that you please remain respectful in your comments but all feedback is appreciated.

[chilly brook]

guess, right now i try to get all the world tree

[sullen meteor]

Don't try and get them all immediately, especially as the levels of enemies get higher/harder the further out that you go. Try to stick to the west for now and find the college of pensive. Your enclave is not too far from there and there may be something else there too 🙂

[half talon]

Honestly right now take your time. There is no rush. There’s a total of 8 quests, which may sound like a lot but realistically most are starter quests.

There are tons of dungeons to explore, enemies to fight, sieges to complete, organs to run. But there’s no sense blitzing through all the content as we just recently had an update and there’s no guarantee as to when the next update will be. So for now, take your time, learn the systems, explore the map, and provide #1438224662344761345 to the team about what you like, don’t like, and what you want to see for the future in the game.

[loud reef]

Def take ur time. I started a month ago yesterday and I'm only missing 2 Armor pieces and one talisman.

After today I'll be back on Warframe for the first time since 2019. I better get to grinding

[chilly brook]

is high lvl tale better reward? cause i think im only lvl 2 atm XD

rank 20 pact and rank 25 long blade

want orengall pact but i think she on the ne side?

also, how do we use rune?

nvm, orengall just appear Xd

[half talon]

She’s in the starting area.

lol oops too late

[half talon]

You need to obtain runes from sieges or bosses then equip it in your nightfold to your weapon. There should be a little icon next to your weapon that you can select (or you can right click the weapon)

[chilly brook]

orengall appear when i do quest, i can go back to her quest after i finish the tale?

[umbral egret]

This fire king set is being a jerk

I've been at halfway on all pieces for so many tales

[ebon wraith]

RNGesus can be cruel

[sage socket]

Guys wheres the leave button....

I just defeated Nimrod for the brewery of hues quest and the leave button dissapeared

😔 is the game trying to force me to play more

[spare badge]

Don't give the RNG an inflated ego by giving it a better name.

[nova crow]

what is making me jump 100m in the air then fall to my death?

[ebon wraith]

it has been there for 3000 years

[finite stone]

Yes, you can see the rewards on https://wiki.avakot.org/Enclaves:

[chilly brook]

are there a daily cap ?

[loud reef]

Where I get level 40's from. Just RNG?

[finite stone]

Yes, from the same page:

[finite stone]

DE mentioned them and their rewards in the original patchnotes but they're not available yet:

[spare badge]

3000 is a drop in the bucket.

[finite stone]

Although that's helped me spot a small typo in the table which I can squish

[bleak sand]

9694-DB42-54A9-AC23

[marsh rune]

Annoyed; my Vadagar Bear despawned. I hate that when Vadagar bosses despawn (I'm not even sure if it's just me dying multiple times or it's a bug), the 30-minute counter still happens.

[ebon wraith]

I heard from some players that when they die vadagar can dissapear

[umbral egret]

Mine too. I didn't die it just got a scent of an enemy halfway across the map and sprinted away until it did a leashing animation and slowly dragged back to its spawn point, then popped out of existence.

[fierce flax]

Anyone can help me invt party bcs iam still lvl 1 hard to granding

[vagrant kayak]

You'll want #looking-for-group

[whole lily]

Which portable gaming device is that and how do you play soulframe on it?

[fierce flax]

Ow iam using msi claw a8 handhield pc with z2 extreme proccesor

[fierce flax]

Like use joystic

[half talon]

Game runs well on Steam deck too if you have it

[fierce flax]

Yes is similar to

[ebon wraith]

game runs well on everything 🙂

compared to modern slop thats being released this is very well optimized

[exotic gale]

Runs like crap on my smart fridge

[half talon]

I blame the fridge

[ebon wraith]

you need a microwave for it tho

[fierce flax]

Cool even u can play on ur screen in the car its dope

[ebon wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/microwave-gif-18671985

[wet tulip]

skill issue it runs perfectly on my potato prime

[marsh rune]

not 60fps atm, but my coal-powered pc seems to handle it okay. Wishing I can turn off grass and other foliage though.

[light dove]

i saw players who were rank 18, im 17 and i dont know what im missing, i maxed every weapon, 34 main weapons and 12 sidearms, i maxed all 11 pacts, collected all motes, and visited all 4 dungeons, what am i missing?

[ebon wraith]

history notes and probably fey pact which was removed

[light dove]

oh, thats it, the fey pact

[ebon wraith]

yeah community been asking to add the mastery for others too but who knows

[chilly brook]

where do you guy collect materials for forge? just from Exploration?

[ebon wraith]

chests,bosses,bannerets tales and such

weapon racks too

[chilly brook]

i see, are there a routine farm route?

[ebon wraith]

spawn is random not static

[chilly brook]

i see

[ebon wraith]

you can do same place twice and chests etc will be in different places

only certain locations have a chest or two in same place

[main relic]

Is it just me or does the combat feel a lot easier?

I didn't really get to play since the past large update until now

When they reworked all the attributes

[fierce flax]

Wich one the best pacts sir for mage

[fierce flax]

The pact must be buy or we can get for free soon?

[main relic]

You can craft em for free