gameplay-discussion

[tulip crater]

you dont need a perk for that?

[flint inlet]

so ive been having trouble deciding what to do with Seathorn. Deciding if I should just fully max the attunement to spirit or leave the last 2 grace for the headshot damage. I just got the hollowing rune before I got off last night and paired it with the totem that does damage to nearby enemies and the +damage one.

[bleak hawk]

Yeah but what I'm trying to say is that you can parry heavy attacks that hit you

[subtle plinth]

You have to drink Cogah potion to enter Cogah mode. Upon death Cogah phase is automatically ceased

[tulip crater]

oh

[subtle plinth]

You can drink it as many times a day as you want. However, you can only craft potions one by one which takes 2 hours each

[bleak hawk]

Ohh alriight great to know, thank yuu

[finite stone]

Yep! The tavern has its own wiki page too, https://wiki.avakot.org/Drippin_Flagon

The Cogah is explained on https://wiki.avakot.org/The_Cogah if you need all the info 🫡

[bleak hawk]

I have an extremely stupid habit of searching about a piece of info moments after I ask about it.

It's like I remember "oh right I could just look it up"

But for teh sake of interaction

[sour flax]

has anyone worked out the base XP values for various enemies

[exotic gale]

anybody know if there's a way to end/exit a replayed fable? or will i need to complete it fully

[dawn arrow]

You said it, social interaction is nice even when redirected to a guide which is also created by the community

[novel depot]

hi! i just start played the game but i though i may have an issues with light what setting should i change to see something when i'm in the shadow

[wet tulip]

dayum you are the first to unlock envoy space travel xD

[iron nimbus]

XP used to be shown when killing enemies long ago, nowadays it's no longer the case for...r e a s o n s

[random lotus]

2 more world tours and not a single cogah rune drop, bro how the f are we supposed to test these if they dont exist lmao

[bleak hawk]

Yah, exactly. I don't mind being given the link tbh, even tho I could've looked it up myself. We still gotta maintain a level of interaction tho

those bile sacks really don't want to drop do they

[verbal galleon]

Hi, did something change on oscelda pact, my passives are reset and i cant find the upgrade to regen faster the abilities ?

[finite stone]

Yes, Preludes 13 removed the 'Akin' passive and reset everyone's Pact Arts so you can reallocate the points

[sly escarp]

Well, it Will have 2 grace regardless of what you do

So for blessed it's you call if you want to add extra Spirit, some Grace for a hybrid build, or for some reason Courage (don't recommend Courage personally)

[verbal galleon]

thank you 🥺 👍

[sage socket]

What are drags for?

Dracks? I forgot how to spell it 😭

[vagrant kayak]

Money

[bleak hawk]

cash money

[vagrant kayak]

Crafting, buying from NPC's, etc

[sage socket]

Oh we can craft? I

[vagrant kayak]

Once you find the blacksmith ancestor yes

[sly escarp]

Blacksmith is good ancestor, if a bit depressed

Self esteem issues are common amongst crestives

[sage socket]

Ooo thanks also how do I find NPCs that sells items

[vivid haven]

how hard is it to find that infinate room to grind xp

[sage socket]

😔 I'm so weak I keep dying

[languid escarp]

can't wait till she cheers up a bit

[sly escarp]

Can spawn in a few random locations or in a couple guaranteed locations.

Wares are Materials mostly

[sage socket]

😔 do they not like sell staffs

[sly escarp]

Staffs are weapon fragments

So no

But you can buy the materials to craft the staff once you get the fragments if the shop has those materials available

[sage socket]

Thanks 😭 are there any videos explaining the basics of this game? I'm a bit lost

[sly escarp]

SaraLovesArchery has a new player guide, but iirc it's from p12 so a lot of the info around virtues and scaling will be out of date

You're also always welcome to ask here if you have questions

[sage socket]

Thank you but I have like a million questions so it'll probably be a bit annoying 😭

Thank you regardless!!!

[finite stone]

Never annoying, feel free to ask anything you like! But also, you can search anything on the wiki https://wiki.avakot.org/ and it should hopefully give you the exact info you need 🙏

[flint inlet]

Oh, ive only had the game for about 5 days. I got a Feybalt blessed by Iridis basically right after I had maxed Seathorn out so I just tossed it on. Thank you. yea Courage is ok but not for that build im going with. I am wearing Synod's Bell Jar for some extra courage because I already have like 28 spirit and 11+ courage and spirit

I just change the amulet around for whatever I'm doing

[bleak hawk]

That's what this discord is for, to get the annoying questions answered ;p

[empty plover]

Hello friends. How do I get the access code ?

[sly escarp]

#envoy-gathering message has a list of all the available ways to get access!

[whole lily]

Would be cool to see npc character progression/degression with events that happen in the game

[sly escarp]

We get a bit of that with the Bond Ranks for the Ancestors

Where interacting with them helps them with their internal struggles a bit.

[turbid stirrup]

Could someone help me fix my journal? Orengall is rank 30 but the journal still says this...

[sly escarp]

It's a WIP system

There's no lore unlocks from raising Orengall's pact level yet

[halcyon thicket]

Well technically the text is wrong, we did swear a pact to Orengall at the end of the fable

[bleak hawk]

uh, chat randomly disappears apparently. any way to bring it back except logout?

[sly escarp]

Relog is the known fix on that

[bleak hawk]

alrighty, thanks

[random lotus]

alright something has gotta be wrong in the recent hotfixes, im in a discord of about 20-30 daily players farming cogah and only 1 of us has gotten a rune in over 300 bosses

about to put in a bug report from our group

[smoky crater]

i just got 2 in a single run earlier today

single run containing only 6 fights because im not missing many from cogah anymore

[sly escarp]

Sounds like it's that time again.

[ebon wraith]

what i've noticed the players that have rune drop issues in cogah play in groups

[smoky crater]

sooooo multiplayer bug

[sly escarp]

#1438224825113120788 time does the bug report dance

[random lotus]

we dont play in groups

[smoky crater]

[random lotus]

not for cogah farm, just solo speed run is best

[wet tulip]

i just got the mistgale like 2 hours ago 0.0

[ebon wraith]

then you should have went to RNGesus church on sunday!

[random lotus]

since the hotfix, how can only 1 rune drop across 25~ish players over 300 bosses? we are wiki contributers so we are trying to track our data with plugs

[turbid stirrup]

Thanks for letting me know!

[normal sail]

so glad non-server emotes are allowed in the other channels

[wet tulip]

just now ¯_(ツ)_/¯

and had the mistgale drop to me like 2 hours and 20 mins ago

[thorny glen]

why is wazzards gift talisman so hard to get for only +1 spirit stat?

[subtle plinth]

From my experience Wazzard's Wish Talisman drops once in ~5-7 encounters. I wouldn't say it's super-rare but I think it makes sense in a long run to give some motivation for replayability

Most stuff is good for collection rather than stats

[thorny glen]

i've killed it 21 time via share and only got 1

out of three

this makes me sad

[ebon wraith]

today i finished leveling final weapons and i only got this talisman 2 days ago lol

[subtle plinth]

Indeed. RNG is not always predictable

[thorny glen]

that talisman is the last thing i need to farm other than the 3rd faction armor set

[ebon wraith]

i managed to farm everything before that talisman

[thorny glen]

even the 3 faction armors/

[ebon wraith]

yes

[thorny glen]

wow

[ebon wraith]

but after update my alca went to rank 3 for some reason so im releveling it now

[thorny glen]

i still have to finish my 2nd faction for the pact and 3 more dusts for cogath talisman and then switch to the last one

but that's just daily cap

so nothing i can farm all day

[ebon wraith]

waiting for hotfix for the new bow and rank 17 🙂

[thorny glen]

you can reach rank 17 now

[subtle plinth]

Getting "Wazzard' stuff seemed to be always catchy. Good thing the chances were buffed for Armour pieces from Organs

[thorny glen]

the talisman is from wraith

to make it worth getting, they should add a set bonus with the armor

[subtle plinth]

Yeah. I know. It's just the name

Unlucky RNG name perhaps 😄

[thorny glen]

it's not wizzard, its WAZZARD! (de naming scheme)

[ebon wraith]

you're a wazzard harry!

[random lotus]

congrats! i hate you 🙁

[subtle plinth]

Unfortunately, Armour and Talismans do not grant any Mastery XP, so most stuff is simply collection. There will always be better Talismans and worse, unless they are reworked

[random lotus]

now 320kc in cogah in our group, 1 rune since hotfix

[subtle plinth]

I agree it makes sense though

Although, in my opinion, it would make even more sense if each item gave us something to boost the collector's motivation in the long run

[thorny glen]

that's not fair to people who hate some activities

[ebon wraith]

lets see if i get a rune now from ruthos

[thorny glen]

i just want to see talismans MORE useful than the crypt ones (+1 votive)

[ebon wraith]

would love to see talismans with some bonuses to pact abilities or something

[wet tulip]

xD no need to hate. but yeah your group rng seems weird

[thorny glen]

or just resistances or something

[wet tulip]

GG mods xD

[thorny glen]

quick on the draw

[pure horizon]

guys would bog and myrtle on moras hand c/g hybrid be good for crits and such? plus the great shield rune?

[wet tulip]

that ban hammer finally got x10 attack speed mod on

[ebon wraith]

just decided to test

[thorny glen]

grats

[wet tulip]

damm now we just making him/her feel bad

[ebon wraith]

i mean i play this game since end of p11, got many of these runes and never seen anyone who i played with 100kills no rune

maximum i saw was 20

[thorny glen]

i still have rune i think i'll never get, liek the banneret in dingeon one for shield and the nimrod cogath oens

sry, i'm eating

[floral yoke]

Is the organ/collector share fixed or is it still broken?

[ebon wraith]

all runes drop outside of dungeon, dungeon agari have a boss with identical drop table top side

[thorny glen]

you have to re-log to reset the organ, but sharing still works if you do that

[floral yoke]

Oooh, that explains a lot
Hope that gets fixed soon

[thorny glen]

still, no one does cogath for nimrod

[ebon wraith]

for just one boss probably, i still see in chat people do cogah full runs\

[random lotus]

i just killed her again, no drop, im beyond tilted

[thorny glen]

full cogath never gets me a nimrod :(

[random lotus]

350 KC, 1 rune drop, we are alling it quits until this gets addressed. Something is wrong. We have submitted a bug report. Please dont kill the motivation to play 🙁

[ebon wraith]

i can join you for nimrod if you need it

[thorny glen]

for cogath? sure, i'm on europe, gonna login now

[ebon wraith]

i dont have all bosses up but dimrod easy

[thorny glen]

my ingame name is "evilclone" i know right?

mods doing work today

keep it up, you're doing great

[candid star]

Wait, question- What weapon types can count as both “Weapons” and “Side Arms”? I just realized The Royal Tines isn’t a side arm when going back to see what I could craft.

[smoky crater]

sidearms should actually say "Sidearm" under the weapons name when you go to craft them iirc

[flint inlet]

Honesty wish you could have two primary's if they were not the same weapon type

[tepid nexus]

Why do you have double clivers

[ebon wraith]

thats the weapon

[sly escarp]

In the XP screen, Clivers shows twice

It's a pretty minor bug

[ebon wraith]

Bugframe has a bug? this cannot be xD

[thorny glen]

btw my entire internet crashed and died almost right after i stopped

that would have wasted my potion

[ebon wraith]

xD

[pure horizon]

would bog and myrtle be great with a saphene gildaur on c/g hybrid?

[floral yoke]

Is it a common issue that clients crash with bad hosts? 🤔

[wet tulip]

yeah i just tested it. it still force them to spawn if you go back and forth

[slender tangle]

How do I catch the wolf? I've already completed the quest to free him, and now he's appeared to me helping me kill an enemy.

[wet tulip]

talk to it

yup consistently i can force them to spawn

[spare badge]

You don't. And she's not a him.

She's waiting for you to talk with her. Walk up and an interact promp should occur.

[pallid sentinel]

As I understand, if I sold Juniper I can’t get it anywhere else?

[lethal tundra]

@pallid sentinel

Can you sell items?

[ebon wraith]

yes to the camel

[pallid sentinel]

Yes, except armor.

[gilded rock]

lol thank you!

[wet tulip]

just make sure to enter nightfold for like 5 sec every time you reach the end of the route i showed

[lethal tundra]

@pallid sentinel where and to whom?

[pallid sentinel]

Camel in the camp, and Avakot, they have a sell tab.

[warm drift]

why am actually struggling with the stag boss

[dawn arrow]

Thats a nice observation 👀

[hexed spoke]

What is your setup

[coral wind]

Hello everyone, could you ask my questions about Preludio? I don't understand how the code friend works, I pay and have the game and the 2 keys for friends are only to test on the day or do they keep the game too?

[wet tulip]

a code unlocks the game for ever

unless DE goes bankrupt and no more soulframe xD ( which is highly unlikely)

[coral wind]

Show, even paying to share if you want to kkkk.

[amber bolt]

Is there any use for perk points once you max out a weapon tree? Or a way to remove the shining from having unspent points?

[wet tulip]

cant do anything with the extra points for now

[amber bolt]

Like, I know I have unspent point, I can't spend them. No need to keep reminding me XD

[wet tulip]

preludes moment

[half ledge]

what am i supposed to do?

[thorny glen]

short swords and longswords have 50 total points if you max everything

[thorny glen]

shoot closed vents, rescue nearby oil critters, (4 total) the main door will open, kill boss, go up and play the organ like music to the glowing bits of the tower

[half ledge]

there was only 1 animal i cant find the others

[iron wind]

they are close to the vents in puddles at the ground

[thorny glen]

they are usually close to the vent that isn't cloged

[amber bolt]

If you use Spirit Vision (press Q on keyboard) it should highlight them

[half ledge]

yea i think its just bugged

[coral wind]

About the packs, I saw that each pack has a banner, it represents the class or the game and free? for example, I take the pack of the green banner, but can I use other weapons or does it influence?

[last coral]

is there a fix to the game/window capture not working? While streaming on obs

[bleak hawk]

There isn't a class per se, you can use anything in any combination you want.

[finite stone]

If by packs you mean the founders packs, they're bonus gear that gets added to your inventory, but you can equip or unequip anything you like!

[spare badge]

Sometimes, they spawn a ways away.

[thorny glen]

there is only one class
40 courage build OORA!

[spare badge]

Envoy has no class..

[spare badge]

I had one of the animal pools spawn over here, a ways away from the organ, and got stuck in an electric snare because the 3 enemies it needed to die to go away didnt' want to comeo over and get killed.

[bleak hawk]

UNDERSTANDABLE

[sacred bay]

my friend is starting the game since i gave them a code but what is this bug first his face now the bow?

[idle otter]

so whats the bets way to level weapons

[sacred bay]

Glades of andurin arena

[idle otter]

whats that

[finite stone]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Arena

[upbeat cradle]

it's a special room, kinda circular with a stag statue in the center, if you activate the statue then waves of mockery enemies will start spawning until it's 20 waves

[idle otter]

damn

[upbeat cradle]

each mockery gives 1k xp? and theres like 3 per wave so its 60k xp i think

[idle otter]

how did i not know about that

so how long does it take for one weapon to get max ?

[upbeat cradle]

that i don't know

[idle otter]

probably wont be like warframe just 3 minute def

[finite stone]

yeah not that fast sadly haha, but generally you can almost max a weapon by doing the full 20 waves

[idle otter]

oh dman

thats nice to hear

[hexed spoke]

2 runs of arena/endless if it's a decent level one

[idle otter]

how does soeone open this door

[safe pelican]

Is this something significant?

[warm drift]

Do you think that my stuff from prelude will carry over to full game

[tepid nexus]

Yes

[idle otter]

is ti random if the tielset appears or not ?

[finite stone]

It is yeah, like any dungeon tile

[tepid nexus]

Altough some things might get removed with reworks to some systems. For example if they ever decide to rework virtues again they will remove prisms

[idle otter]

thats kidna poopoo

[warm drift]

Do u think this game will be like Warframe with the like 20 story lines

[idle otter]

warframe doesnt ahve that many open ends i feel like
but yes

[warm drift]

Not open ends just how they released each story segment over like 7 years

[blissful flower]

I don't think there removing prisms

[whole lily]

Are the organ doors opening timed or was there a way to force them open sooner?

[tepid nexus]

It was just an example

[lament path]

Open the vents and free the animals faster to open the doors sooner.

[finite stone]

It's timed after you set the fourth beaver into its vent - sadly there's no way to rush it along, you'll always have to wait like 20 seconds

[whole lily]

ahh okay

[velvet veldt]

I kick the vents open anyway, because DOWN with the Sinecure!!

[oak furnace]

Here's where Drackore shines. The simple truth. I would have been tempted to troll you into performing some type of nearly impossible task

[lament path]

One reason to do organ shares is that a group simply does it faster when spread out

Also flyblade beyblade breaks the central power core thingies really fast if you run around

Even when they are closed at times

[finite stone]

Ahh but slayer knows what I do not; the secret glitch method involving three Envoys, a duck, and some hardcore parkour

[oak furnace]

You don't have to do these to advance in the Organ. They open a secret compartment on the outside that has a Dendrite chest.

[lament path]

Wait really? Huh.
Did we always have the dendrite chest there or was it missed so often that they decided to reveal the chest in one of the latest patches?

[smoky crater]

sometimes also a rare ode chest

[oak furnace]

~~Always since p13, it is hard to see. ~~It is pushed back from view behind some bars/grate. I stand corrected

[finite stone]

It was added in hotfix 3, but they didn't mention it in patchnotes #1472420256873189386 message

[smoky crater]

but you also don't apparently need to destroy the glass tubes to get access to it, destroying the organ also opens it up from what i heard

[smoky crater]

think 3

[lament path]

. . .So why did we break the cores before that?

[finite stone]

For fun / nothing!

[lament path]

You know I always thought we had to destroy it because it was just there and we are kinda destroying the whole thing to begin with.

[oak furnace]

Becasue it was there

[lament path]

Inside and outside

[oak furnace]

tbh a Bromius sized nerf may be coming for Mora. That pact is just so efficient at smackin dudes

[velvet veldt]

stop the nerfs. Buff everything else

[oak furnace]

I just killed the Sticky Bear before his second stage

[whole lily]

sometimes the sludge/animals don't appear until a few m ins later. ahah

[visual radish]

Feels right to thrash it as much as possible

[languid escarp]

i just finished lvling bromius, my rump thump only doing about 2ooish dmg, but a riposte does 2.2k rather underwhelmed, proper tanky though

[oak furnace]

And my second ability is permanently stuck on. So I now explode when anything touches me

[sly escarp]

Okay buffs enemy HP to account for all the buffs

[oak furnace]

nah - add damage attenuation! That always works out so well

[sly escarp]

The real risk of a "buffs only" approach is it pushes combat to be faster, and the only way to counter that without nerfing anything is to buff enemy health. At which point you've buffed all the gear in the game, and all the enemies, risking a lot of bugs ocurring, as well as pushing the overall numbers higher and as such closer to the signed int limit, to achieve the relative same effect as a targeted nerf.

[rustic fog]

Why is my Enclave XP stuck at 72098 exp and cannot go higher? 80.000 needed for level 5

[sly escarp]

Probably hit the daily cap

[sand stump]

there is a daily limit for enclave xp

[rustic fog]

bruh

[sly escarp]

No, there is no way to see it

We've been asking

Hopefully soon

[oak furnace]

we realize it is pre-alpha. BUT they have a lot of goodwill in Warframe user base for transparency and I'd hate to see that not transfer over. Look at ability descriptions, they fit the style and mood but leave a lot to be desired is saying what they actually do or how they change with player choices. Hopefully this becomes part of Soulframe DNA as well

[rustic fog]

I mean, there are only two things to do in this game. Farm Enclave and farm Vadagars. . . then there is a limit to Enclave EXP?

not cool

[sly escarp]

It'll reset in a bit over an hour

[oak furnace]

Mission: kill 7 level 36 baddies over there
Mora: <presses 1, then 3, swings sword twice> What's next boss?

[regal quarry]

so, as an old school Thief fan, something I'd like to see more of, is doing more with the lighting mechanics

I really enjoy playing stealth archer and stealth in general, but right now, it feels... I don't know, it's difficult to really make it sing. I think if perhaps the Ode were less able to see/detect you in darkness (not so much night, but absolutely in dungeons), and if you had the ability to extinguish --or-- light certain lights

or if Ode could turn on lights! And if there were also good reasons to turn lights on, eg, powers that do more damage in light

would also be a great way to change up Sirin's passive; the Thief ability right now just... doesn't do much in the current gameplay style, so,. starting with a better/stronger/more reliable "can see in the dark" and maybe idk, "takes less damage in shadow"

[ruby girder]

Lighting based buffs were horrible in Warframe, would be cool if they could pull it off here.

[velvet veldt]

pre pre pre pre pre pre alllphaaaaaaaaa 🎶

[clear vessel]

2k riposte?

How which weapon was it

[clear vessel]

Farm vadagars? But why?

[solid tiger]

how do i increase Silent Rose standing? i am expecting a bounty board or something like in Warframe but I don't see anything. Deora has no additional dialogue either

[tepid nexus]

World tree for faction tales

[solid tiger]

i see. that is not intuitive

[tepid nexus]

Trust me its better than having to run back to enclave after every tale

Hotfix will also make it so that when you finish a tale u can start a new one without going back to tree so look forward to that

Basically u will be able to chain them till u hit daily standing cap

[solid tiger]

makes the social spaces a bit superfluous though. you only need to go there to buy stuff

[languid escarp]

marrow's bane, full courage

[stuck cairn]

what to do after returning blacksmiths helm?

[twilit knot]

an invite to beta would be nice

[fallow arch]

vadagar bear just instantly took me out of cogah ugh

yeah theres no dodging that

[solid tiger]

talk to her in your base/nightfold

[fallow arch]

how is this not doing well in cogah?

[clear vessel]

Tree is the bounty board.

But also good news this week's hotfix should let you grab all 3 quests at once rather than one at a time

Tip for faster farming is

Going to the north east most tree.

Since it always is a dungeon in the t3 tale

Once you get the enclave standing (caps at 16k XP)

Just log out

And you'll be waking up really near that tree again and the quests on it refresh

[sly escarp]

Spirit build?

[fallow arch]

ye

[sly escarp]

Look like it's heavy on the Magick defense

Plus Spirit gives less health than Courage or Grace

[fallow arch]

bear nuked me twice so I went after wazzard and his spiders killed me

now I have no cogah pots

[sly escarp]

Spirit is squishy

[clear vessel]

Which is honestly so weird imo,

Since spirit builds don't seem like glass canons

Not a single attacking skill scales off of spirit other than the cooldown,

Just courage or grace

(But then again I haven't used tethren, ode and kith pacts)

[sly escarp]

Meant to be more Glass Cannon

What pact?

[fallow arch]

I just want my stupid hallowing rune reeeee

wyld oscelda

[sly escarp]

And there's the problem then.

[clear vessel]

Spirit since it's armor is like

Really really bad

Even the wazzard armor.

[sly escarp]

Wyld Oscelda's 2 ability is just a healing aoe

[clear vessel]

Oscelda bow is really good

But also try not to deal the killing blow during petrify

Something about it deleting the boss drop

[sly escarp]

Doesn't scale on basically anything but how long it lasts

And it won't help much if you're getting slammed in one hit

[clear vessel]

Which is ironic since they get one tapped in cogah

[sly escarp]

Would suggest Bromius might be a good option

[fallow arch]

bow?

[sly escarp]

The 2 ability can act as a lockdown for the bossses

[fallow arch]

thats what I typically use

currently the defensive totems dont seem to be working

[clear vessel]

Ah thanks for the warning

[limber coral]

Got a question guys if anyone can help here

[ashen barn]

??

[limber coral]

If i got stuck somewhere what should i do?

[fallow arch]

type /unstuck

[ashen barn]

wasnt there a "unstuck" tag

[limber coral]

Oh ty guys lol

[fallow arch]

honestly I shouldnt feel like I have to use X pact with X stuff anymore given pacts themselves dont lend to virtues anymore

[tidal vigil]

Does purchasing the Founders pack give you keys or are those codes for the Warframe skin? There's 6 of them

[languid escarp]

you get some of both

[finite stone]

It gives you everything that's shown on the https://www.soulframe.com/en/shop/founders website. So for a base pack for example, you get the access keys (top square) and the warframe code (lower square)

and then for paragon like you say it's 6 of the warframe code, and at the top it tells you that you get 10 total soulframe friend codes (in addition to your own access)

[tidal vigil]

Okay, thank you both so much!

[languid escarp]

you can see them all on the account managment bit on the soulframe site after purchase

[tidal vigil]

Thank you! I was looking for an email confirm and couldn't find it so I was afraid I'd deleted it

[languid escarp]

they disapear when used too, pretty much straight away so you can keep track

[tidal vigil]

Best feature because I'd also forget which ones I'd given out lol

[clear vessel]

some of them have virtue buffs still, bear to courage and orengall for some reason. also to courage?

[scenic solar]

Still wishing we'd get skins for the other OG starter weapons in WarFrame

[fallow arch]

orengall was a spirit pact @clear vessel

[idle otter]

i ran the dungone now 6 times and never had this arena

am i missing somthing ?

[frigid spoke]

It's random

[finite stone]

Yeah the spawn can be real hard to get sometimes, only thing I could suggest (other than asking someone else to invite you) is to try different Glades entrances if you're not trying that already

some entrances will give you a longer dungeon, meaning more tiles so higher chance of finding it

[torn chasm]

where do you get runes?

[hazy loom]

Does the game normally have issues with saving the settings?

[clear vessel]

the mini bosses with the healthbar

check avakot.orgs map for locations

they respawn every 30 mins mendicant king is broken and respawns every 3hrs

[frigid spoke]

He's broken for some people, he's on a 30 min timer but for some reason some people get him at 3hrs

[thorny glen]

medicant king was my first annoying grind, the blighted deer was my last

[ivory arch]

does the crypt no longer give a bunch of scraps? Or is it because it was my first time/doing a faction quest in there

[jaunty shard]

Is there a cap to MR gain? I've been stuck on level 2 all day

[frigid spoke]

No

You lvl MR by lvling weapons, pacts, dungeon entrances located n the histories found for locations

[jaunty shard]

Yeah seems I've been in the same spot for the last few hours, doing all that

[knotty moon]

Try relogging.

[frigid spoke]

Go to different places, don't stay in same spot

[jaunty shard]

Re logged, different dungeons, half dozen histories, 15+ weapon levels

[fallow arch]

so would knight o paladine be better for a spirit build since I'd actually have some health?

[knotty moon]

Strange, it should have raised quite a bit with the motes alone.
No idea, might update on the daily reset.
I guess wait a couple of days, and if it still doesn't fixes itself contact support.

Just to check, did you simply log out, or did you close the game itself?

[prime marsh]

what does this mean?

[oak furnace]

Nimrod wants to eat you

[jaunty shard]

Closed the game and different device a few times. A guy was showing me the game, we did 2 t3s, an endless, 4 dungeons, 4 bosses. Then I did a bunch on my own

I only wondered because I ||killed the bear|| and had no more quests and someone said I needed a higher MR

[knotty moon]

Waste Bear is the last story quest implemented for now, though since they can be done non-linearly you might still have Shewolf Snared to do.
But otherwise it is not a restriction on MR.

Unless you are talking about a Votive objective, those should respawn on a relog though.

[jaunty shard]

I don't have another place in nightfall for an ancestor, the bear didn't show up. I have
-A tree to write things
-Weapon/armor crafter
-Appearance change girl

• a camel
• and the artist dude

[knotty moon]

You got the pet ||wolf||?

[slender tangle]

mapa dando rollback,já fiz 2x a exploração e perdi

[jaunty shard]

No, the guy I was playing with had it and I was curious how

But my guide goes no where and I have no quest to do anything else in my journal

He mentioned the witch ad well, which is who I assume you're talking about

[knotty moon]

You are missing Shewolf Snared then, it must be stumbled upon, the guide will not bring you to it.
Either keep an eye out for strange things, or look it up in Avakot.org.

[jaunty shard]

I'll try her and see if anything changes during the process, ty

Strange things lol, this game is full of those

[knotty moon]

True enough.

Btw, bear dos not show up in the Nightfold, even if it said "Ancestor unlocked", it does however add the planter you can pick up the fast travel seeds from near Verminia.

[vital nimbus]

what is the distance in which enemies will follow you? i just started playing this and decided to just run around and encountered some boss fight, but found I could just drag him along someway and just throw my sword at him until he died

is there no radius in which they turn back or they stand there staring at you

personally i find i was just guided and protected by the magical glitched lamp next to me

[knotty moon]

Looks like the ai borked out, usually they should follow you until they outright loose track of you (either because of distance or stealth) and go back.
Would post that in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788.

[jaunty shard]

I got the planter, no option of fast travel but I'll look into the seeds

[knotty moon]

Once you have the seeds you should have a seed icon on the unlocked World Trees.

[jaunty shard]

Fast travel was my biggest gripe

[clear vessel]

seed count bugs out as of like prelude 12, so dont hoard em too high

[thorny kettle]

Is it worth it playing this game. Looks like the combat is pretty basic. Like we've seen it in other games. Worried about getting bored. Not me complaining... Just a general inquiry. Game looks beautiful but just want to know if it's worth the time.

[sly escarp]

Just be forewarned, it's limited

You're not going to be zipping between objectives all the time with it, you get 1-3 every 12 hours so use them when appropriate.

[jaunty shard]

Thank you for the foresight, I'll use them sparingly

[sly escarp]

Personally enjoy it a lot, but that may just be us!

[jaunty shard]

If you can get a a key from a friend that buys, definitely worth trying

[knotty moon]

That is a very subjective question to be honest.
Personally I find it worth my time, but it is noticeably incomplete.
All in all I say that it is at the very least worth a try, and if you don't find enough to keep yourself engaged shelve it for a while and come back when there is more stuff implemented.

[thorny kettle]

Thanks for the opinion. I'm a big fan of the studio as we can all imagine why. I'm not worried about early stage so yeah. Might just need to bite the bullet and circle around for future development. Are we liking the Co-op much?

[clear vessel]

Realistically you're staying far north east for high level tales

[clear vessel]

Decently fun

[sly escarp]

The game is very much in a pre-alpha state, and you'll feel it. If you're looking for a fun game to just dive into, there's not nearly enough for that right now imo. But if you're okay with looking behind the curtain, for all the good and the bad it brings, and go on a journey with the developers as it evolves, it's a really cool game to experience that way.

[clear vessel]

Co op seems encouraged with how it has Warframes party share exp which makes levelling up drastically faster

But not mandatory.

[knotty moon]

There are some bugs in doing story stuff in Co-op, and some people find the three player limit stifling.
But overall I don't hear people complain much about it (maybe just that it is a tad too easy).

[thorny kettle]

I'm actually really keen on that.

[sly escarp]

Co-op is mostly community run and doesn't have many bonuses outside of just more people and some XP share stuff.

[rustic compass]

guys, it seems i cant use this one. Is anyoen having the same problem?

[sly escarp]

There's no built in matchmaking, just a chat to lfg with

[clear vessel]

Tho It caps out at 3 people and not 4

[sly escarp]

But, it also can be a lot of fun to play with friends, wandering around, slaying bosses

[clear vessel]

It might be the juniper bow one

At least I assume they're one time since juniper can't be obtained again

[knotty moon]

That should be a static one time Echo Stone for one of the Juniper fragments.

[sly escarp]

Co-op is...charming in its simplicity, would be our best description.

Not some overbloated algorithm, never forced to play with others, so it makes when you do play with others feel a bit more magical

[rustic compass]

oh fair, i was thinking it was one of the "flute" ones

[thorny kettle]

Appreciate you all doing your best to explain it. I'll take a plunge and try it out for myself. Have a feeling this is going to be another underrated but very good game later down the road.

[sly escarp]

It do be buggy though, which is probably the biggest hit to it.

[hexed spoke]

Hopium the hotfix arrives tomorrow

They said this week right?

[sly escarp]

They said they were on track for this week

But a plan is not a promise

[clear vessel]

True.

Hopefully it won't be delayed to that distant next week Saturday.

[hexed spoke]

Hopium is hopium

[sly escarp]

(if a plan was a promise basically all games would be on fire and the devs cryjng right now. To make a game is to embrace change to your plans.)

Sometimes, reworking your level manager is planned for 2 weeks and takes 2 months

Sometimes, you set aside a week to build a fresh new journal system and it's done in two days then breaks eight times in testing.

[knotty moon]

Or breaks the skybox.

[sly escarp]

Actually it tended to break the movement system

You'd open the journal and never be able to move again

That particular bug re-emerged 3 seperate times

[knotty moon]

[sly escarp]

Not due to code rollbacks. Due to the movement lockout variable check being constantly put after various return checks by every coder on the team.

So the code that would unlock you would keep getting ignored because another function was telling the unlock script to stop early.

Eventually we just put a big comment saying "put return checks after this line of code" and it helped a lot.

(we are also fully willing to admit to being one of the coders who implemented the returns before the checks, like the true dumb dumb we are)

[hexed spoke]

People who cry over delays are the problem tbh

Personally I just hopium and call it a day if it's delayed

[sly escarp]

(especially since we're the one who fixed it in the first place and then re added the bug later)

Anyways sorry for the ramble

Coding stories are just a bit fun to tell

[hexed spoke]

As long as you have an altar dedicated to Avakot you can ramble all day.

[sly escarp]

...For a second we read that as "an alter dedicated to Avakot" and was like "that's a weird request to make" and then realized it said altar and was like "oh, yeah, that, we have that"

[hexed spoke]

I have such high hopes for this game, for an alpha it's more polished than a lot of games released today.

[exotic gale]

whoever designed the droprate for the seathorn is pure evil....

[sly escarp]

Honestly didn't find it that bad, but there's been a weird spread on drops on it. Some people get it in like 10-15 T3s, heard of others needing 60+

[rustic compass]

well it happened again, i cant interact with it

[sly escarp]

Oh, that's the Verminia song totem

You need to do the Brewer of Hues fable.to use it

[ivory arch]

might be a bug on my end but is anyone not getting any scraps or items when breaking the pots in the crypt? i was doing a faction quest in there so that might be it but was wondering

[rustic compass]

well, when i press the bird button, it makes me come here

[sly escarp]

They reduced the drops from them significantly a while ago

[sly escarp]

What's your current quest

[rustic compass]

brewer of hues lol

[ivory arch]

dang, any other way to farm the scrap items?

[sly escarp]

Weapon racks

Fort Curlail has a lot

So do Glades

[sly escarp]

Gonna guess you freed the rat but didn't fight Nimrod twice on your way to the totem

[rustic compass]

you're damn right, i didnt even see an enemy lmao

[sly escarp]

Swear that's the buggiest fable in the game.

Did you at least do the dungeon in the tree roots before finding the rat?

@rustic compass

[rustic compass]

I think so, almost sure

[sly escarp]

Okay, you'll just need to relog and follow the rat again

A big enemy should spawn, you fight him a little bit, he leaves, and that will happen twice

If it doesn't happen twice before you reach the door, relog again and do it over

This fable is far and away the most buggy mess of all of them

[rustic compass]

yeah i see, my bird is stuck on a place, and there's no big guy around.
Thanks mate

[sly escarp]

👍

[quick tree]

trying to do "an invitation" i went back to the door at night but nothing is happening..

[sly escarp]

There should be a boss nearby

Are you not seeing a ghost enemy spawn?

[clear vessel]

try relogging, the ghost spawned for me at night

[quick tree]

how nearby? I even went across the stream to cleared those few enemies

[clear vessel]

if its kith of kings

[clear vessel]

ah right in front of the door, with the knight and mora emblem

[quick tree]

relogging helped, appreciate it!

[quiet bison]

how do i get to the ||island||?(idk if its spoilers)

[knotty moon]

You can't, legitimately.
You can either get someone to taxi you there if they have it unlocked or find an OOB method and walk there.
I'm not aware of any OOB method right now though.

[clear vessel]

people bugged their way to it via (non working) out of bounds, but dw the tree does not give any account level xp

[quiet bison]

okay as long as its not something i need to worry about

[knotty moon]

It does give a lore line, but you can check that out in the Avakot.org wiki if you want.

Or wait for swimming to be implemented I guess. 😛

[twilit lance]

i was actually surprised when i heard it

[clear vessel]

oh yeah swimming was stated to be (well surface swimming) almost done right?

[knotty moon]

A bit less done than mantling, but yes, maybe in a couple of Preludes.

[normal sail]

eventually we will get access to it either by bridge or when the surface swimming system is implemented.

-# iirc even Steve himself said something needs to be on the island after alot of us visited it lol

[languid escarp]

atm it's just a rock, bare as bone, nothing to see

[knotty moon]

Not even some hidden cheese around.

[normal sail]

it is the only land we know the ode is yet to claim.
-# they probably can't swim or melt in water or something like that

[clear vessel]

well yeah there's not a single milkable creature on midrath

[knotty moon]

Camel.

[normal sail]

maybe all the cheese is made from soybeans

[ruby girder]

Cow pact soon

[languid escarp]

i mean you could milk a beaver or a dear

even a rabbit?

even a rat haha

[knotty moon]

But why?
There is a perfectly good camel right there!

[languid escarp]

and there is hidden cheese, there is a cheese wheel behind the island outside rose enclave on a bench

[regal quarry]

I think it's more doable here due to the slower pace of gameplay! Things like Oscelda's CD reduction while in water would never work in WF, but it works great here

[knotty moon]

I meant, no cheese hidden on the island.

[normal sail]

Steve Island at that^

[languid escarp]

i'm confused

[knotty moon]

I'm speaking of the island with the unreachable World Tree.

[languid escarp]

oh i see lol

hidden cheese :)

confusing cos we also on an island

[knotty moon]

One of us, one of us. 🧀
https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440066278336233472

[languid escarp]

i must visit all the cheeses :)

[clear vessel]

Evidently not on midrath

[clear vessel]

They charge in arcs, per pint.

[clear vessel]

Oh I misread that as lightning the entire time.

So glad that we don't need to snapshot lighting via stealth now tho

[thorny glen]

they just...are there, right?

no poking the cheese

[blissful dune]

useless data: strongest Paragon vs Strongest Purity I could make without orengall/drinks/music buffs (+3 all talisman is 1 more damage than +6 grace for paragon). I put the virtue stats i have in color next to "Enchantments".
I could maybe get one or two more points of damage out of the paragon with +2 grace from Orengall/Bromius, but i have +1 courage and +1 grace

[native leaf]

My friend and I just played for a few hours earlier and she lost everything after we got off is this known to happen? 😭

[dawn arrow]

Happened to someone I know, he lost all the xp in endless but when he relogged everything came back .. maybe the same thing?

[native leaf]

She did relog but she didn't get anything back unfort :/ 😭

[pulsar tundra]

Message support would be the next thing I suppose

Never heard of that before

[dawn arrow]

That awkward moment when someone hosts bear/stag but it is the start of the tale. Thankful but 😗
I don't know but I always like to do the lord's work and invite people Infront of the bear/stag 😇

[blissful dune]

Don't do that. They dont get the full rewards and miss out on faction standing.
People prefer to join at the start of the tale

[dawn arrow]

Off did not know that, rewards are affected that way

[blissful dune]

You still get the stag drop loot table, but yeah you miss out on the t3 faction tale table and the full amount of standing

[dire helm]

at 37 grace you should get +10 grace from howl if you want

I figured out the math behind howl, by the way, if anyone is interested

[blissful dune]

yea. i pretty much just stay on sirin these days. I wish their damage was a lot better overall. dewelion almost has the same damage

[dire helm]

On that note, here's what I was able to crank dewelion up to:

🤣

[dawn arrow]

Does Mora's pact benefit from flame runes or I shall i stick to what I like?

[dire helm]

I can't find the cap. 🤣
-# Dewelion is bugged AF, and I have a bug report in for this.

[flint inlet]

that's actually a really good question

[thorny glen]

THIS IS NOT EVEN MY FINAL FORM

[candid star]

Hey, so question I just realized I might want to ask-when it comes to new quests, after the quest where you fight the three headed bear, are you actually supposed to go out and find more story line quests, or is my stuff bugged and I'm supposed to automatically get the quests?

[flint inlet]

I don't think there is a lot of story content after that right now. Basically from my understanding is that you just run around leveling up weapons and farming for new weapons and armor. Doing enclave missions and then running the hardcore or Cogah to get runes and stuff

[true notch]

how did u get 69 grace tho

[thorny glen]

max grace prism
grace potion
grace amulet
grace wolf howl
grace shrine buff

also your name has to be Grace

and 2 points of grace from the story dialogue

[true notch]

yeah

[true notch]

u for real? lmao

[thorny glen]

this is why people think the game is easy, bow builds are overcaping grace

[true notch]

arent all those buffs hypersmall in terms of duration?

10-20 min max

and shrine buff being random

[thorny glen]

shrine buff is 10 minutes

and howl is much shorter, but you only need that one burst to oneshot things

[true notch]

that much ppl play bows with these goofy head hitboxes?

damn

[thorny glen]

it's the safer bet when the enemies become oneshot machines

[true notch]

that's around lvl 60+, yeah?

[thorny glen]

it keeps going

takes hours, but it can go up to 100

even more

[ebon wraith]

good morning envoys

[thorny glen]

i forgot to sleep...but i got the shield rune

[ebon wraith]

i joined random group for full run including all dungeon agari and got 2 more for shield lol

[thorny glen]

now i'm missing polearm rune and nimrod fire rune

2 more runes left for 100%

but now i rest

[wet tulip]

Its much easier with oscelda’s first ability . +bestone gives unaware mode to enemies so you get stealth dmg bonus also

[thorny glen]

some play wolf pact for even MORE dmg buffs

[wet tulip]

That give better dmg then the stealth bonus 100%?

[thorny glen]

i think it adds up, but the best part is that it's for more than that one hit

howl +2 wolves and the passive that increases dmg per ally nearby means you can arrow rain nukes

[wet tulip]

Well bestone can stun a full camp so it isnt for one hit only

literally 1 ability and you headshot all the camp 1by1

[thorny glen]

meanwhile, one arrow rain and no aim

[wet tulip]

yea i dont think anyone complaining about standing and aiming on a not moving target xD

[thorny glen]

you never know, letting people play how they want is the point of an open ended game

[ebon wraith]

bestone is fun but gets boring at some point

same as tethren

[wet tulip]

I agree

[ebon wraith]

atm im hooked to spiderman ode tempest xD

[thorny glen]

I still need 2 days of daily cap to get tempest pact

I want to make courage build tempest and push 50 enemies towards the next island

[ebon wraith]

i didnt notice that far of a range

maybe with buff+potions etc

[prisma pier]

Lightning pact
Primary skill is not lightning bolt
It's a weird ball instead

Literally unplayable

[ebon wraith]

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[clear vessel]

Oh dang there's dungeon agari?

[ebon wraith]

Yeah but they are counterparts for some of the topside bosses with same drop table and outside cogah mode they have very low chance of spawn

Like spider, banneret, impidth kabocha etc

We did like 6 of them in dungeons yesterday

Let's see, 2 banneret, spider, impidth, kabocha and reaper so yeah 6 total in dungeons

[clear vessel]

Ah so that's why I could never find the neath UN's guy, (kept killing kombucha first)

[tepid nexus]

Reaper is glades exclusive afaik

[ebon wraith]

Yes but reaper has same drop table as one of topside bosses I forgot which

Might be ruthos

[tepid nexus]

It drops cleavers so whatever drops cleavers in overworld

[ebon wraith]

Yeah cleavers skilter and long blade everflame rune

[thorn forge]

ill trade someone a Soulframe key for a D2R - Reign of the Warlock key

[half swift]

how longf does it take for the organ to reset? i keep getting bad RNG on it. keep getting the magic staff lol

[ebon wraith]

3 hours

[half swift]

ok one more time before bed then. just need one more part for the legs

[hexed hazel]

Purity only drops from the King? The droprate is god awful or my RNG is bad but I kill 9 kings daily for past 5 days and I'm sitting on a single frag still.

[half swift]

it is DE :p RNG can be evil

[mellow python]

It also drops from the Collector
But almost everything drops from the Collector, so the drop rate of any specific item is really low

[hexed hazel]

When you say - from the collector - do you mean Nimrod at the end or the crates?

[mellow python]

The wiki says fragments can drop from both, but I personally only seem to get fragments from Nimrod

[dull ocean]

What happens when you craft another of the same weapon? I just did it, just because i could, do i get to level that weapon again to add to xp?

[ebon wraith]

No, mastery experience gained only once per weapon/pact

[timber wharf]

Hey everyone!
I’ve been following Soulframe for a while and was really excited about the recent dev stream, but unfortunately I missed the drops window.
I know this is a long shot, but if anyone happens to have an extra access code they’re not planning to use, I’d be incredibly grateful.
Either way, I’m really looking forward to the next stream and diving into the game soon. Thanks!😊

[gusty dagger]

the f is that

[ebon wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-mushroom-toad-gif-12939685

[knotty imp]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-sprodling-nokko-mushroom-shroom-gif-9963654544858876861

[ebon wraith]

Dem cheeks

[knotty imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153013372820934716/1430644571058077859/captioned_meme.gif

[ebon wraith]

Rood that just turned 60 and tried video call for the first time haha

[knotty imp]

stinky deer

[clear vessel]

Lady Deora muting her phone (Rood called her in the middle of an Ode'n meeting)

[small zenith]

where is she? I have never seen her gone. Is it something new?

[ebon wraith]

Check for a note

[small zenith]

She ran away? not coming back? 🙂

[ebon wraith]

After reading the note check journal

[small zenith]

have nothing new in my journal

[ebon wraith]

Weird should start a quest, maybe leave night fold and check the map

[clear vessel]

Did u check all the journal tabs

[vagrant kayak]

Did you read the note

[clear vessel]

does the heavy attack (mouse buttons other than m1 and m2) just stop working sometimes?

had to close and re open the program to fix it, asking if there was ways to fix it faster

[vagrant kayak]

Not a bug I've personally experienced

Quick search through #1438224825113120788 shows a single report for a similar issue back in January, definitely make a bug report

[woeful ledge]

Is this new virtue system gonna stay here forever? Cuz like the old one is better tbh

[vagrant kayak]

It will continue to receive balance and systemic changes based on feedback, I do think it's better overall than the old "Oops all Courage" one personally

[ebon wraith]

New system is nice my only hope is that they separate pact abilities and weapons

Or release all weapon types to all 3 virtue scalings

[elder gull]

is there a new way of doing contracts? I don't see them in the map anymore

[hexed hazel]

Once they finally implement additional effects to prisms it will be nice. But so far I don't like this system much. It's artificially limiting in my view.

[elder gull]

haven't played in a while

[ebon wraith]

World trees have the tales now

[elder gull]

neat, i'll try it

[ebon wraith]

I think having pact abilities be impacted separately from weapons will give the freedom back or even having pact ability arts tree like weapons would do the trick

[elder gull]

does siege yield more standing?

[clear vessel]

stuff like this kiiiinda makes me wish they'd revert the "the dog doesn't die when it runs out of HP"

[elder gull]

Also I love this mechanic, slightly better than trying to find quest givers

[clear vessel]

especially avakot, he is 2 inches tall and blends in with the dirt

(the glow in soul mode is really dull so it kinda doesnt help unless you back up and view from a distance)

[elder gull]

IKR
I had that one time where I had to find the lil mf and he was just hiding inside a bush.

[clear vessel]

the fact they can spawn in a bush is kinda evil

[ebon wraith]

You won't get faction exp for a siege if that's your question, tree just shows nearby activity besides faction tales

[elder gull]

ah got it, thanks

[elder gull]

does the level of the contracts matter (like t3 contract 21-31) ? or does it give the same exp

[hexed hazel]

It does matter

[elder gull]

neat thanks

[ebon wraith]

Warframe had same issue back in the day with animal conservation I bet it will be fixed at some stage

[ebon wraith]

Yes the higher the tale level and tier the more faction exp you get, Avakot wiki has the numbers

Level 30-40 T3 tales give the most exp

[elder gull]

the radius is a lie

[verbal galleon]

Hello, i played only a few to the game, but i am wondering, is that enough like 3 skills with the pact ? because i find it repetitive and lack diversity. Is something giving more interest as lvling higher lvls ?

[ebon wraith]

This game is more focused on weapon combat and pact abilities to help you in battle

[verbal galleon]

like mmmh to take benefit from 2 different weapons then ?

[hexed hazel]

Ranged/Melee for example

Or melee+orbiting flyblades

[ebon wraith]

You have main and side weapons which you can mix and match then you have totems and runes which you slot into weapons to make them stronger

[clear vessel]

fingers crossed

[vagrant kayak]

You'll get different Pacts as you progress through the game which each come with 3 actives and 2 passives, the variety is more in using different Pacts than using the same one you started with forever

[verbal galleon]

🫣 😅

[upper parrot]

Does account level even do something now? In past it was giving virtue points, but right now virtue is locked behind fraction (which I kind of hate tbh, because contracts became worse in my opinion, I also don’t sure if you need pay 7500 each time you want to change fraction)

[deep rune]

Rump Thumping from the top of the Organ to Discharged Nimrod is really cool gameplay

[ebon wraith]

just virtues at the moment, and you dont need to pay 7500 to change... its just 7 days cooldown is the payment

the 7500 to craft faction talisman a one time deal then you can switch for free(just the cooldown)

[deep rune]

you just need to have the corresponding Talisman already crafted in order to change Factions, cooldown has been removed recently

[upper parrot]

What virtues do I get? In past I could assign those, how it works now?

[ebon wraith]

you get 1 point and prisms allocate them

[ebon wraith]

cooldown is back in play

[upper parrot]

oh I see

[verbal galleon]

How does multiplayer works in the game please ?

[clear vessel]

They give virtue points still. Prisms are, think a specific %distribution of said point

[clear vessel]

Oh nice does it scale with height?

[clear vessel]

Map, top left click the plus button to create a session

[ebon wraith]

you invite players to your group and you run together in same world

[clear vessel]

Then you can add people from your friend list, or by typing the name, or by clicking their name in the chatbox

[verbal galleon]

i see player often tells exp group etc

[deep rune]

I think not, although that would be great. Right now, it seems to be doing very low damage even after the fix.

[deep rune]

I was able to change twice today, I will test it at 3rd time now, could be a bug somewhere?

[ebon wraith]

maybe they decided to keep it

[vagrant kayak]

No cooldown is gone, if you are still seeing a cooldown message that's a bug

[deep rune]

yeah, looks like we can change freely which is fantastic

[ebon wraith]

i hope tokens will give rep outside of daily cap

[deep rune]

that would be nice

[vagrant kayak]

I don't that's a recipe for burn out waiting to happen

[ebon wraith]

doing same missions over and over for 3 factions till rank 5 is a real burnout

[deep rune]

true, some would fall into that trap, unfortunately

[ebon wraith]

i mean they dont need to be a common drop

its just an extra happy drop here and there

[deep rune]

the upcoming changes look great and should help reduce that burnout either way, hopefully

[random lotus]

alright day 5 of farming The Torrent rune, so far 0 drops/51 kills, f this man

[vagrant kayak]

I think the daily cap should be clarified and potentially increased but there's a reason games like these have them, without a cap people would burn themselves out getting to max rank in a day

[ebon wraith]

yesterday 2 kills i got 2... sorry but i dont see that as true

[deep rune]

hopefully, they can make it so that you can clearly see how much more you need for your daily cap as well as for your next Faction level up, without having to do calculations yourself

[strange fossil]

Have any of you had trouble finding sparrow tale quests? I haven't found any of them on my map roaming around or anything

I was just gonna try looking harder 😅

[deep rune]

they can now be found at the Trees

[strange fossil]

Ahh ok. Ill look into that thanks

[random lotus]

dont call me a liar, f you dude what

just completed another world tour, 0 runes

[scenic solar]

Dumb question incoming: the endless room is waves of mockery, right?

[languid jasper]

Yeah, but it's not endless anymore

[scenic solar]

It is possible to farm their weapon fragments will running it?

[hexed hazel]

Nope

No loot from the Arena mockeries

It's just pure XP, nothing else.

[ebon wraith]

thats rude...

[exotic gale]

If you're looking for the 3 Mockery weapon frags, g to a Circade Crypt entrance, use Sirin's Pickpocket ability to grab their frags, then relog

[scenic solar]

I’ll try that when I get back on. Done with the Mockery armor so I’m working on the next grind

[clear vessel]

but also if youre farming standing via the north eastmost tree, you'll get em really soon from how often it sends you to the crypt

[scenic solar]

(I also need to get a flyblade rune so I need to get farming discharged nimrod)

[clear vessel]

true, oh btw ive gotten 130 damage and suddenly 500 damage headshots on the nimrod

like, did i hit his exposed chin or something?

[ebon wraith]

head hitboxes are iffy with bows

[clear vessel]

Oh nah perfect throws too , top of nimrods head too,

[dawn arrow]

So you cant enter Castle Kaernhold? Was it for a special event?

WAsted many weveseeds to find an entrance 😛

[hexed hazel]

Damn, you guys have seeds to waste?

[ebon wraith]

you can...

[hexed hazel]

Since P13 I'm getting a single seed each "harvest"

[ebon wraith]

boss at the entrance drops the key

[exotic gale]

You enter the castle from the west

[dawn arrow]

Not Fort Kaernhold

The castle in the south

[exotic gale]

Ah, yeah that castle is empty

[hexed hazel]

So is the castle up north

[ebon wraith]

Soon™

[dawn arrow]

I am in the questo to make sure I collected all motes/locations. Speaking of which, can I tell?

[ebon wraith]

all location icons will looks like that

[dawn arrow]

So i should use the soulmap and go to each location

[strange fossil]

I downloaded that lol I've been searching for the dang world trees 😂

[ebon wraith]

up to you, i discovered all locations myself and then collected all motes in one day

[strange fossil]

I swear I must of made circles like 30 time around some of those world trees and not seen them

[ebon wraith]

once you know how they look it makes it easier+at night you can see clear glow

[strange fossil]

Ahhh ok

I had completed all the main quests and unlocked 0 😅. Well accept the freebie

[ebon wraith]

can sort of see them trough the fog if you squint your eyes hard enough haha

[strange fossil]

Getting the northern one was kinda fun it had elden vibes I did great as long as I never got hit

[dawn arrow]

I find it weird that Mora's pact courage ability doesnt set enemies on fire

[strange fossil]

I thought pickpocket should have a button instead of the auto way it works just cuz I thought it didn't work forever and had to look into what's going on

Like L1 to pickpocket R1 to stab or whatever

[ebon wraith]

some abilities do need fine tuning here and there

[strange fossil]

It's honestly a beautiful game though I have a cheap gaming laptop and the only time I stutter is when it is generating the dungeon when those second doors slide open

[ebon wraith]

when dungeon entrance doors open thats when game is loading so instead of loading screen you get that stutter

its exactly the same in Warframe

[strange fossil]

Ahh ok. I just started staying still and waiting a moment instead of jumping around and being crazy

[gilded seal]

How do I get to eternium gardens after getting founders?

[hexed hazel]

toot the flute

[ivory bloom]

Good morning guys, when is the next drop invite live?

[dawn arrow]

Does anyone know how much virtue boost does music totems give? I just took Grace amplifier and went to check on virtue screen only to see that each virtue increased by 1? (using split)

[hexed hazel]

10

or at least that's what the tooltip says

[dawn arrow]

Then defintily that is not getting reflected on Virtue screen

[gilded seal]

Does planting a second flower replace my first flower for eternium?

[clear vessel]

You don't actually need to be founders to enter it

Press x, go to emote, music, while in night fold.

Never actually used the garden asides from fast travel to map centre
I hope you get the answers soon.

[gilded seal]

Thanks, I'm already in the gardens and hopping between the instances, I just don't know if I should only plant one flower or not

[exotic gale]

No, you can take up 4 different allotment with all 4 flowers (assuming you have that many)

[tulip crater]

How do i lvl up Tuvalkane and other npcs?

[rustic fog]

is there something wrong with Pacts and the passive Virtues they provide?

[gilded rock]

They are missing!

[rustic fog]

I have 21 Grace with Garren Rood Pact (gives +5 to Spirit right)
I have 21 Grace with Sirin Pact (gives +5 to Grace)
What's going on here?

[rustic fog]

You craft things

[tulip crater]

Ty

[dire helm]

They removed the passive virtue amounts from all pacts. So that +5 to grace or spirit just doesn't exist anymore.

That happened with the changes that came in p13.

The wiki may not have caught up on all of the various pages and details yet, so if that's what you're looking at, just be prepared to check such details against the patchnotes.

[rustic fog]

But if I I switch from pacts, I go from 20 Spirit to 21 Spirit, so they do give Virtues bonuses. Maybe it has changed or there is a cap?

being the cap 21?

[hexed hazel]

Are you sure you don't have different passives in each pact for Virtues?

[dire helm]

Check your points in your pact arts tree.

[rustic fog]

oh you are correct, missing 1 pip in Spirit passives in one of the pacts

thank you, and damn, I need 22 for Dewellion

[mild robin]

Hey, not sure if this is the right channel but i could someone tell me if this choice has any permanent consequences or if its more like the alignment system in warframe

[hexed hazel]

This basically sets you with a starting pact

But you can unlock more pacts later on

[mild robin]

wait isnt the weird arm the pact?

[brittle nacelle]

it perma increases the virtue you select by one

[languid jasper]

Gives you +1 to that virtue, you can change it by doing the quest again

[rustic fog]

how to do the quest again?

does it apply to Bromius also?

[brittle nacelle]

go to journal look at fables and it should have a replay fable button

[rustic fog]

oh nice

[mild robin]

ah cool, is there any way to see what each virtue buffs? or do i need to look at the wiki for that

[brittle nacelle]

yeah his fable should've added to the list of fables you can replay

[umbral minnow]

Sorry they hacked me

Someone got into my account

[hexed hazel]

yeah

[summer valve]

So there's one broadcast per week?

[undone minnow]

impressive account recovery time

[edgy hollow]

Can just ping us, chief. No need to for violent comments.

[undone minnow]

ooop. was making a joke

[eager shell]

When will the option to turn off auto-aim be available?

[dire helm]

It's official. Nothing left to craft except this.

If I run out of stuff to level, I've told myself I'll just buy it. But hopefully they patch drop rates and I get the other frag I need before then.

[tulip crater]

Anyway i'm so addicted to this game and its only pre-alpha. Just wow

[upper parrot]

I hate new tales with crypt, if you aren't getting 3 sarcophagus quest it's just better to abandon it

[tulip crater]

Wich are the fastest ones?

[torpid charm]

got a question. I've noticed I've been getting a lot of extra fragments around. Is there a purpose outside of crafting the first time? or is there at least a way to dismantle? The biggest reason is mostly to keep my menus concise/organized

[upper parrot]

it feels like now you just better to run 2 mission tales

[sly escarp]

There's nothing to do with them and no way to get rid of them short of crafting the weapon again and selling that, and in the time it takes to craft you'll often get another 4 weapons worth. It's a common request to have something to use them for

[torpid charm]

Unfortunate. Thank you for answering though

[true notch]

for orengall fang (amulet) one should just rerun glades over and over again hoping for final chest luck, ye?

[sly escarp]

And the puzzle chests if you know them

Every rare chest has a chance to drop a frag

[true notch]

ty

[fringe tendon]

quick question, if you just use your primary weapon, does your secondary weapon earn XP passively?

[finite stone]

Try the taughslane and kearnhold organs too, as they each have a glades chest - plus the dendrit chests found in crypts are glades chests

[true notch]

tbh i saw dendrit chest in crypt like once in many many hours since circade released

[finite stone]

Not from your kills, but yes from ally kills / certain xp sources like destroying moaners (I think?)

[true notch]

ik orengall wasnt in the game at that moment but still

[exotic gale]

Anybody know if the Anchor (Shield Duck) totem can be captured in the wild now? Or is it still bugged and only gotten from cage?

[lusty salmon]

I'm in the exact same situation, 1/2 Gathannan, and i have everything else hahaha

[fringe tendon]

ok thatnks for the info

[random lotus]

KC 54 cogah - no torrent rune yet

[finite stone]

There were duck totem fixes in Hotfix 3, and I think this might've been Anchor-related though the patchnotes aren't specific #1474146539235446794 message

[true notch]

WTS gath frags for halloween event items guys, not sure how we will trade without system being implemented but i think we'll figure it out

[exotic gale]

Ugh, I dont know if I want to spend hours checking for something that might still be bugged 😅

[dire helm]

I'll trade you a Paragon copy for it! 🤣

[true notch]

deal

[verbal galleon]

Hey, please how do we unlock the 2 other spells from a pact ?

[finite stone]

Rank up the pact

[sly escarp]

Level it up!

iirc ability 2 unlocks at 5 and ability 3 at 10

[verbal galleon]

Thanks both, i bought the wolf thing because i love wolves 😅

[turbid vapor]

That was a really good decision cuz this pact lets u travel faster alot

[random lotus]

55 kill count on boss - finally got torrent!!! Goddamn

[turbid vapor]

I bought moras hand.. grinding rep is hard im lazy and yeah

[eager shell]

@[DE] When will the option to turn off auto-aim be available?

[verbal galleon]

ah with what ?

[turbid vapor]

Probably when theres a feature for locking aim

[verbal galleon]

please can we buy life potions or something ?

[turbid vapor]

With the first ability u are much faster just remember to not get hit while in wolve form and to sometimes get out of wolve form to teleport ur character to the place u are at

[neat citrus]

you can buy them from Avakot

[turbid vapor]

U will figure it out i guess

[eager shell]

I think that's exactly the option I'm asking for... xd

[verbal galleon]

ah i met this guy but he doesnt sell me thing, does he has a fixed location ?

[strange fossil]

A couple times I've just died on purpose and flew back so I could have full health and a few potions restocked 😂

[verbal galleon]

ah 😅

[neat citrus]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Avakot

[verbal galleon]

oh i didnt know i just target mob and the spell worn off

[strange fossil]

Hey someone said I can get sparrow tales now from the Trees? Where is that? I can't find the quests roaming around

I tried to just bump into one for a few hours last night

[finite stone]

You can see all the World Trees on the https://wiki.avakot.org/World_Trees page! 😄

[flint inlet]

you have to go to the world tree after you join your enclave

[strange fossil]

Ahh the first one or just any of them?

[finite stone]

Any Enclave, any tree except the island

[crude valve]

each tree will give you quests in the region it is in

[sly escarp]

PATCH NOTES ARE LIVE!

[strange fossil]

Alright cool thanks.

[flint inlet]

once you complete the missions at one tree, you have to run to another if you want more

The North and East trees are harder ones which give more xp

[strange fossil]

It's interactive like where I pulled the spear out? Run up and press X type thing

[flint inlet]

yea

[strange fossil]

Alright thanks 🙏

[flint inlet]

then it opens a menu and you can choose from level 1-3 missions. Choose the level 3 if you can do it

I think it says what level gear is recommend as well for each mission

[eager shell]

I think that in the Spanish version, the names of the pacts and the equipment in the store are swapped, I base myself on the maximum number of equipment I have been allowed to buy

[sly escarp]

The "Equipment Slots" are loadout slots

iirc they can be a little buggy atm

[flint inlet]

@strange fossil Read the patch notes they just posted. I told you some stuff and they just changed some of it lol

[strange fossil]

@flint inlet Ty I'll get on there now ☺️

[lament path]

Back to the organs now

Also pacts might be reset again since virtue points have been changed 👀

[strange fossil]

After completing a votive tale? So they'll be in the silent rose enclave to pick up missions from?

I'm at work I can't look 🥲

[vagrant kayak]

They'll be nearby when you finish a Tale out in the world

I assume at least, would be very strange if you had to go all the way to the Enclave

[visual radish]

Would make no sense yeah

[strange fossil]

Hopefully there's just a little rose icon I can track on the map

That'd be the easiest

[flint inlet]

From what I've gathered so far, legit after you do the missions at 1 tree, you can go back to that same tree and a person from your enclave will be right there.

[sly escarp]

The same tree? Not neraby the end of the tale?

[visual radish]

Near the end

Going back to the tree is the same as we had before so wouldnt qualify as a change

[flint inlet]

My bad I was mistaken

[deep rune]

DE is doing such a wonderful job with fixing and improving things at a rapid pace, well done!

[dire helm]

Oh heck yeah, changes to virtue requirements and more virtues from pacts! Yes!

[knotty moon]

Hopium worked. 🎉

[wet tulip]

atleast its not above 100 xD

[knotty moon]

Interestingly, now Wyld allow maxing out the Arts tree.

[sly escarp]

Ooh

That's actually really exciting

[knotty moon]

Kinda sad about it myself, there is no more choice to make.

[sly escarp]

Valid!

Maybe they can find some new nodes to add down the line

[knotty moon]

Hopefuly.

[novel moon]

Aren't the nodes totally changing at some point?

[vagrant kayak]

Yeah they mentioned it'll see a rework at some point

[knotty moon]

Nice, I knew about the weapons Arts', but not about the Pact's.

[sly escarp]

They said for Weapon Arts, don't recall anything announced for Pacts but would kinda be surprised if there was nothing

[vagrant kayak]

Scott mentioned it on the Virtues devstream

[sly escarp]

Ah, sick, musta missed it

[novel moon]

Think it was more of a offhand remark

[knotty imp]

ohno, back to the organ mines T_T

[halcyon thicket]

Dw drop rates are v good

[ebon wraith]

So do the new weapons drop from all organs or split like armor?

[sly escarp]

All organs

Replaced Erstroot

[novel moon]

Oh, replaced even?

[ebon wraith]

I wish Ertsroot fragments I got from organs would transform haha

[exotic gale]

Wow, witan is now better than cobladh for sidearm daggers

[covert cave]

nice

[brave oak]

this are the reputation tokens

[lament path]

250 and halved for a different faction token

Or quartered even, huh.

Well a little more than quartered

[sly escarp]

Oh, so there's 3 amounts, not 2. Neat. Guess Kith really hates Alca's Children, Children hates Rose, and Rose hates Kith?

[dusty hatch]

Wow, this si new, isnt it?

[sly escarp]

That's been there for at least all of p13 if it's the one we're thinking of

East coast, kida just north of the Southernmosty organ?

[dusty hatch]

huh, yeah. guess i never went there in the last weeks

[exotic gale]

ooo

avex bow is 3*

[copper bluff]

wow haven't seen that before! where is it located

[dusty hatch]

here ish

Not at my arrow though, in the forest in the east

[sly escarp]

If you want another cool find: take a look to the South of Castle Kearnhold

The southernmost castle

[dusty hatch]

you really wanna delete this and change

[exotic gale]

LOL

[sly escarp]

@dusky thicket You posted what may have been a password in this chat, for your own safety it has been removed but you should still go change it for your own security.

[slender stone]

Is it known if the new weapons from the organs are time limited drops? Like the Thawtide items?

[sly escarp]

Organs are a new activity

So while the drop tables may get moved none of the gear will be event limited

[slender stone]

Yeah I know but the first "Envoy Forge" was Thawtide, so I'm asking if the rewards are an event

[knotty moon]

Most likely not, the weapons from Thawtide are still obtainable, most likely those ones will too, maybe they will change source though.

[sly escarp]

Uhhh...where did it say the first Envoy Forge was Thawtide?

[halcyon thicket]

P12

[sly escarp]

Ah, neat!

[knotty moon]

Fairly sure they mentioned this one was the second as well.

[sly escarp]

That would be the weapons then

Not the armour

[knotty moon]

Most likely a Tenno Reinforcement equivalent.

[sly escarp]

The weapons just had their drops moved to other sources

[exotic gale]

So Envoy Forge = Soulframe events?

[sly escarp]

No

Envoy Forge = Hotfix with weapons

[exotic gale]

I see

[lament path]

Envoy forge sounds more like envoy submitted designs to me

[knotty moon]

Though to note that there were hotfix with weapons before that were not named Envoy Forge, in P10 for sure, maybe more.

[mild robin]

uh does anyone know how i can farm this stuff?

[long grove]

Also thawtide wasn't a hotfix itself, and the armor was included in that list.. prolly just a new term for weapon/armor drops

[sly escarp]

It kinda was

It wasn't a prelude

Regarless, "Envoy Forge" seems to mean "We added some new weapons and it's not a Prelude number change" at a minimum

[knotty moon]

It was between hotfix 8 and 9 iirc.

[kind roost]

chests with shovels on them on overworld or duengeons for gold glow chests sieges also give mats

[sly escarp]

Thawtide?

Mid p12

Oh, hotfix

Yeah

[kind roost]

it would be super cool if this game turned out to be a warframe/skyrim hybrid

[exotic gale]

hmm

its more like a barbie/my little pony hybrid

[knotty moon]

It doesn't have nearly enough bugs to be comparable to Skyrim.

[sly escarp]

looks at brewer of hues are you sure

[knotty moon]

Yes, that is at best half the bugs of a Skyrim quest. 🤣

[exotic gale]

what the heck

i thought falx was a dagger, do we need another courage long blade?

[knotty moon]

We were tricked and bamboozled.

[long grove]

looks at a company that constantly relies on modders to fix their games i'm pretty sure..

[knotty moon]

To be fair we don't need another dagger either.

[kind roost]

its not falx is a long swords name i know it since i play mordhau

[exotic gale]

I guess i misread the patchnote thinking it was a new sidearm dagger

[knotty imp]

so for some reason when i pick up wevetseeds, they don't actually get added to my inventory? what gives

[kind roost]

well at least i can finally use odiac on my hybrid build still need to get cour/spirit virtue

[ebon wraith]

Pick seeds once go out do something then comeback and pick again works for me

[half talon]

I believe there is a new bug report regarding the seeds atm

[long grove]

no, there's an announcement in the news section that said short blade. I was also surprised

[kind roost]

is rooted worth getting if using melee

[knotty moon]

New Weapon: A new Short Blade Sinecure sword is on the way.
#soulframe-news message

[knotty imp]

think i'll wait with farming the newest gear till they fix the seeds, constantly running everywhere ain't it chief lol

[knotty moon]

Log out near the southern or central Organ, do those two, relog 3h later.

[exotic gale]

I wonder if we're able to turn in faction currency to bypass the daily cap

[knotty moon]

I assumed not given Warframe, but possible.

[kind roost]

great now i cannot use flyblade's since there is no pure grace one i can't get to 7

[long grove]

can also ask for taxis to those locations in recruiting, free fast travel

[long grove]

warframe medallions go past cap

both for syndicates and focus

[knotty moon]

👀
Uh, guess I remembered wrong, good to know.

[mild robin]

how can i find out what this is? i found two glowy orange things and absorbed them but now im kinda stuck :(

[kind roost]

hmm new bug undercity entrance 😄

[exotic gale]

Isnt that the old one to the East? nvm misread again

[knotty moon]

Strange, that should have revealed part of the name.
In theory you need to absorb those glowy things (Motes ) to reveal the names, not all of them spawn at once though.
When you enter an area a few pips show up under the name, the pips covered by a are those that spawned.
Relogging or otherwise reloading the map will make new ones appear.

[karmic jolt]

Okay guys, see you (or rather, read your posts) again in a few weeks!... WoW Midnight and Resi Requiem are coming tomorrow <3... Have fun and enjoy!...

[exotic gale]

dafaq?

[lament path]

sineculuum can even drop from the turtle slugs huh

Actually all the faction items seem to drop pretty well

[long grove]

that's surprising

[lament path]

Got four items from only a little wandering, medicant swamp area while levelling a new pact

[long grove]

well they gave them a cap, so trying a new way ig

[knotty moon]

Ode'n true form.

[long grove]

pretty cool tho

[turbid vapor]

I wonder if someone at DE took his inspiration for motes from my profile pic

Lol

[knotty moon]

Fairly sure it was likely from one of the Ghibli movies.

I know they directly referenced Princess Mononoke.

[exotic gale]

I believe the black soots were from Totoro before Spirited Away