gameplay-discussion

[smoky crater]

no P11 the actual update did happen on a friday...

[long grove]

preludes 11 UPDATE was on a Friday

[undone minnow]

10/10 not 10/9

[half talon]

False. First update iteration was December 15, 2023

[undone minnow]

Did that upload twice?

[smoky crater]

yes

[long grove]

sorry I'm on mobile, but you're sure in this location that's marked? cuz there's two locations that look similar here

[reef arrow]

They used to work on Saturdays too, but now they usually have days off until Tuesday.

[undone minnow]

Isn't there also the spider Agari in the dungeon?

[long grove]

the spider should be in the marked one, but yeah if it's still not there after all this time. maybe verify/optimize and relaunch. if none of that does anything, put in bug

[fringe tendon]

@long grove yep that is the spot

[reef arrow]

yes

[long grove]

there is, just curious cuz that one hasn't respawned in a long time

[smoky crater]

wdym used to work on saturdays?

sure you got timezones correct?

[undone minnow]

Yeah. If etheldred won't spawn try the dungeon variant

[smoky crater]

like sure it was saturday for me when P1.1 dropped but it was still friday for DE

[long grove]

yep! then try verifying and optimizing, if it won't work then put in a ticket. til then, there's a dungeon boss variant you can get the same rewards off of

[vagrant kayak]

In the 10 years I've played Warframe I can remember one (1) time a fix deployed on Saturday because of gamebreaking bugs, I don't think they normally work Saturdays

[fringe tendon]

same place but go inside?

[reef arrow]

Soulframe Preludes 6 Oct 26, 2024 Saturday 06:45 PM
Soulframe Preludes 5 Aug 31, 2024 Saturday 07:20 PM
Soulframe Preludes 4 Jun 29, 2024 Saturday 08:00 PM

[long grove]

yeah look at limes pic

it's in a different location

[undone minnow]

You've got timezones mixed up or something. Theyve never released a preludes update at 8:00 pm

[long grove]

Def a timezone thing

[undone minnow]

They get off work at around 6:00pm est

[long grove]

sometimes there's been a late hotfix, but never a release that lateb

[meager tree]

Does anyone think p13 will drop today?

[undone minnow]

There is a slim chance, but we just have to wait and see

[long grove]

it can happen

[vagrant kayak]

Preludes 6 came out in September, 5 was in June and 4 was in May, I don't know where you're getting these dates but they aren't correct

[viral panther]

Today or tomorrow for me

[ebon wraith]

today is not over yet so there is hope

[long grove]

well they don't work weekends so not tomorrow

Also apparently they have a long weekend so today or Tuesday

[viral panther]

But it s valentine day tomorrow

[half talon]

It’s super early. Day is very young. Only 9:20am for DE.

[viral panther]

Hope they release the update for the event

[meager tree]

Its morning for me so I bet we could get it

[vagrant kayak]

Yeah that says September

[smoky crater]

Preludes 4 was May 30th 2024 which was a thursday.
Preludes 5 was June 28th 2024 which was a thursday.
Preludes 6 was september 13th 2024 which was a friday.

[fringe tendon]

ok i'll try that one, also I need your opinions, do you guys think Runes should work like Auras and be on all the time, because as an archer the whole point of being one is to stand off so how does an archer activate his rune if he;s not close enough to grab a soul?

[meager tree]

Good morning, happy friday

[undone minnow]

from the preludes discord

[half talon]

Haha hello! Happy Friday!

[long grove]

you don't have to be close to smite, if still works at range

[reef arrow]

Sorry my mistakes(

[undone minnow]

Oops I grabbed the wrong preludes versions

[ebon wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-tsang-tsung-soul-is-mine-gif-5567102

[long grove]

it doesn't have the range of a bow, but it works pretty far

[fringe tendon]

ok lets see if I can get this damn spider

[long grove]

[half talon]

Eat it before it eats you.

[long grove]

don't eat the spider

[half talon]

Hmmm spider meat

[long grove]

they don't have meat, they have an exoskeleton and are filled with sin

[half talon]

Delicious sin

[meager tree]

Thx

[viral panther]

Crunchy

[dim trellis]

#$ friends in a row first world boss fight i took them to Little miss spider

[ember pasture]

Spiders do have some muscles, but at least in their legs, they only retract and can't extend. Fun fact.

The aforementioned groups are actually spider identification groups. Bring them up and I will be annoying.

[undone minnow]

If spiders were as big as the Agari would they have "meat"? I'm not sure how spiders work

[half talon]

I would chew on a leg.

[meager tree]

Exactly where my name comes from

[undone minnow]

This is a hell I would not wish to live in, but I must ask

[long grove]

they'd have to develop more muscles to hold up their weight, so yes

[ember pasture]

The answer is they would. They have meat now in their current, mostly diminutive forms. Important protein source in parts of Southeast Asia.

[undone minnow]

Sick. Now if soulframe adds cooking we need spider legs

[long grove]

alr mods, take away their joints

[undone minnow]

Mods, remove my skeleton

[half talon]

I’ve already asked (and wrote some lore) on a cooking ancestor

[half talon]

But how will they bend?

[long grove]

yes

[meager tree]

Don't try to bend the spider leg, only realize that the spider leg isnt real

[ember pasture]

I feel like we'll only have vegan options.

[undone minnow]

Cooking would be a nice addition, but how would it be different from potions?

[ember pasture]

You eat food but you drink potions. Hope this helps.

[meager tree]

I want to make bread!

[undone minnow]

I guess potions could be specifically virtue buffs and cooking could be buffs for other systems

[half talon]

See that’s why I put that the cook ancestor would be competing against Verminia for the envoy’s attention.

[ebon wraith]

We have French brewer now we need Italian cook 😛

[half talon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440074945752334428

[meager tree]

I like elden rings food buffs I could see both healing hp and giving a short combat buff unrelated to virtues

[half talon]

It was a while back (had to go find it)

[finite stone]

This is genuinely fantastic, love how well thought out it is, especially the cat-poppet rivalry to mimic the ancestors' rivalry

Getting a scottish vibe from the voicelines, are they intended to be Dendrit rather than from a far off land like Verminia is?

[ebon wraith]

yeah we need grilled mushsrooms with cheese since both of these can be found ingame hehe

[meager tree]

I could see like health potions are capped and replenishable but food heals a small amount of HP and extra stuff and we can have a lot of it, good for people who can't get by with just having 5 hp potions

[ebon wraith]

out of combat health regen food could be nice

[meager tree]

Id be fine with a whole cheese making system, cheese takes a long time to make, itd be nice to check my cellars to see how my wheels are aging

[ember pasture]

I'm going on record that I think Verminia is from Aurel.

[undone minnow]

Oh no I forgot about crafting times

[finite stone]

yeah for sure, I don't think there's any other explanation for her

[ember pasture]

My entire reasoning is that we know Aurel ha(s/d) a Queen Bernadette and that name is pretty Frenchy.

[half talon]

Honestly I’m a writer at heart, so sometimes the ideas flow (and that originally came from a discussion we were having here or in #envoy-gathering way back when).

I’d honestly love to see a rivalry, whether from the same land, or different lands. Ancestors can (and do!) come from all over, so it would be cool to see hints of other lands.

[undone minnow]

We'll need to let the dough proof for 24 hours and then we can get started on the 12 minute cook time

[finite stone]

That and the Grimpante tree, which seems french in construction

And Gildaur which is an Aureli import

[meager tree]

Don't make me choose between verminia and a chef

[half talon]

No, please, do! I think it would be very entertaining!

[ember pasture]

Ohhh. I've definitely been saying Gildaur wrong then.

I will be really obnoxious with the French pronunciation moving forward.

[undone minnow]

It's thought out enough that even if they implement the lore as you wrote it I wouldn't question it. It fits so well

[meager tree]

Im going to buy the wazzard set instead of trying to farm it. Its probably locked behind a boss and I need those mage jammies asap

[undone minnow]

It's locked behind one of the easiest in the game

But it does take a while to farm with the respawn timer

[meager tree]

Not sure he's the easiest, but I also dont want to fight him 9+ times just to complete it.

[undone minnow]

one of the easiest. I definitely think gawth is the easiest in the game

[meager tree]

Hes definitely in the top 10 easiest

[long grove]

a minute of effort every 30 minutes ain't a bad farm

[meager tree]

Im still going to farm the set, but im also a whale for DE so dont discourage me

Lot of people in warframe are like 'never buy this, dont buy that, dont rush crafting, the grind is easy'. Dude my wallet is keeping this game going, and im super busy farming nightcap bounties so I can get mushrooms for my orbitor. I will buy everything I can

[twilit silo]

I have so many arcs from paragon founders the temptation to buy things is so strong 😭 . If something is locked behind a rough faction grind I'm 100% willing to buy it. When it comes to bosses it depends how polluted their droptable is and how many other ways there are to obtain it.

[meager tree]

I will buy it so I can day 1 try it out, but will also farm for extras because of trading in the future and also ive made multiple of many weapons. But yea these arcs are burning a hole in my pocket.

[crimson helm]

https://tenor.com/view/teshin-conclave-warframe-better-name-pending-bnp-gif-19402310

[ebon wraith]

i think tradable parts will be the wyld counterparts just like warframe prime

[crimson helm]

I only use my arcs for weapon slots and I bought one slot for a loadout

[blissful flower]

I hope so

I would love to be able to farm arcs

[ebon wraith]

I'd say many players hope for same trade/economy system as Warframe

[meager tree]

I hope that everything is tradeable, I dislike warframes restrictions on trading only certain items

[blissful flower]

Yeah Warframe does it so so so awesomely

[meager tree]

Like let us trade river pearls or scrap iron also

[blissful flower]

In warframe the as far as I know the only things you can't trade are things you can buy with plat or with real money

[ebon wraith]

that is one of big reasons Warframe is alive to this day, F2P players are not forced to pay and can earn by playing... which also makes them to buy plat/prime access packs just to support developers

[half talon]

Okay...so we voting for 10am? 11am release? I would hope it would be early so there can be hotfixes if necessary

[ebon wraith]

My vote is for TODAY everything else does not matter

[half talon]

Valid

[blissful flower]

I hope it comes today but even if it doesn't I won't be to bothered

[twilit silo]

I can't escape the fear that it won't be today. If I had to guess though I'd say 14:00.

[meager tree]

Im under the impression that there is many things that are untradeable. A lot of blueprint materials you can't buy or trade like refined gems. You also can't get amp pieces any way without earning them through standing

[half talon]

Oh gosh I feel like that might be a little too late for hotfixes... but it's possible...

[ebon wraith]

if they make everything tradable, many players can skip the game all together... I know I can do that for many players if that happens(playing since 2013)

[long grove]

they've done some OT for hotfixes before

rather it go smoothly in any case

[blissful flower]

Hmm idk I've only played warframe for like 4 months

[half talon]

(if I log into Soulframe now, I can possibly disturb the peace before anything crazy happens) In other words, if I get busy, things will likely happen, right?

[undone minnow]

I don't think they want to have to do overtime for an update like this

[viral saddle]

I guess 1:30 PM

[half talon]

I just wanna CUSTOMIZE

[long grove]

yes. mainly mods, prime parts, some weapons as long as they're not used, and few resources like fish and gems.

[ebon wraith]

FashionFrame is the true endgame

[meager tree]

Sure thry could skip parts, but that'd be their choice. Id love to get a 547 without having to max out 2 factions, hunt 50+ eidalons, and gather literally every material on cetus

[half talon]

I do still stand by that if DE ever ends up making this more sandboxy and letting me build my own encampment, village, etc, I will likely play almost nothing else (except maybe Warframe)

[ebon wraith]

thats the part of the gameplay loop

[twilit silo]

Its a completely wild guess based on them also having had to do WF work. My honest thought is that it just won't be today.

[meager tree]

I understand this. I love warframe and I play it daily. I just wish they didnt limit what you could trade.

[half talon]

I mean Steve mentioned Tuesday that it would be right after the WF one, and since it didn't drop yesterday, today is good...

[ebon wraith]

me and my clan mates had so many laughs and fun times farming them when they were released

and raids ah man...

[undone minnow]

Seeing as they are probably off Monday it's either today or tuesday

[meager tree]

I love fighting them, I just get really unlucky with the day/night cycle which is a bummer when I only got 40min to hop on and play a little.

[blissful flower]

Well some parts of the gameplay loop are boring Wich is were trading comes in

[meager tree]

Why would Canada not work on memorial day?

[undone minnow]

I have no way of knowing if DE takes family day off though

[fathom elm]

is there a way to apply 2 physical armor totems to 1 weapon? and how do people get 60 armor stat? the max i could get is 44armor-10magic -40 stability

[undone minnow]

Ontario's family day

It's a Canadian holiday

[meager tree]

Incredible! I've also never worked a job that had memorial day off, nurses and chefs dont get holidays

[fathom elm]

is there a way to apply 2 physical armor totems to 1 weapon? and how do people get 60 armor stat? the max i could get is 44armor-10magic -40 stability

[meager tree]

Lots of magic runs give 2 def slots

[undone minnow]

This is the current maximum

[twilit silo]

True I deffo think they are aiming for today but this is a big update to a core system and we don't know how many changes they made in the last week and how many dev resources may have been needed for WF. Trying not to get my hopes up in case they delay.

[undone minnow]

Two magic weapons with a stability totem and a magic defense totem, orengall pact and the wazzard talisman

[thorn oasis]

Not to the same weapon, but you can put physical armour totems to both main and side weapons, and they'll both be active.

[ebon wraith]

But they have sepparate Devs for Soulframe

[half talon]

Come on green text! I believe in you!

[long grove]

you can use another weapon to do it, but you can't out the same totem in both double slots

[meager tree]

Yes and no, sharing is caring

[smoky crater]

Too early

[twilit silo]

I thought they shared dev resources between the two, but had devs who mainly worked on either one.

[undone minnow]

They have a dedicated team for soulframe but they often share devs between the two games

[half talon]

Never too early

[smoky crater]

[blissful flower]

Hey helix since your a mod could you see if we can have a VC in here?

[undone minnow]

We should sacrifice Wagiii for the green text

[smoky crater]

Vc's have been denied multiple times already

[meager tree]

I like Friday updates because we can goof around with broken stuff all weekend before fixes Monday. I enjoy bugs

[blissful flower]

Ohh I didn't know that sorry

[ebon wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-im-willing-to-make-sacrifice-sheen-shrek-gif-11322906471842345295

[half talon]

That'll be a negative. We mimic what's in WF, and it would be a nightmare to moderate

[blissful flower]

Okay

[smoky crater]

[meager tree]

Karaoke dungeons

[sly escarp]

The game has a VC is you're wanting to do some chatting?

[undone minnow]

Look at the nightmare that is the other warframe discord. That moderation log is insane

[blissful flower]

I didn't know that

[sly escarp]

It's only within your party but it lets you chat at least

[half talon]

Honestly I forget this

[fathom elm]

i know that but im asking how do i get physical armor in both slots? or u cant

[sly escarp]

PFFFT

[fathom elm]

and if thats the case is 40 armor the max?

[smoky crater]

Cant

[sly escarp]

You cannot slot the same rune into two of the same slot

[fathom elm]

so 40 the max?

cuz i have 2 +11 totems and the +22 armor with orengall/king/brominus mix

or how can i get more

[undone minnow]

Is there a weapon type with a gold physical defense totem?

[sly escarp]

Is there a particular reason you're trying to minmax phys armor?

[meager tree]

There is a talisman also for physical armor

[smoky crater]

Dont think so

[sly escarp]

Long blade

[smoky crater]

O

[sly escarp]

Rat

[undone minnow]

Can't run two of those though. Rip

[ebon wraith]

I dont mind running a glass cannon as long as enemy stagger values be lower

[smoky crater]

Damn im so used to seeing rat used as an insult that i thought you were callin me a rat

[fringe tendon]

Just to be clear, etheldred is the only one to give the archer rune correct?

[keen jacinth]

has there been any word on whether this discord server will be impacted by the new discord verification nonsense?

[ebon wraith]

you mean bow rune?

[long grove]

the bow rune drops from ruthos

to the NE

[fringe tendon]

WHAT! I thought it was the spider?

[sly escarp]

Used to, now she drops Short Blade runes

[fringe tendon]

lol I've been after the wrong boss lol

[ebon wraith]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Gruul_Seeker_Ruthos

[sturdy nova]

depends of the choice of each individual - if you wont provide face-scan or personal ID, your account will be restricted to basically a "teen" account, so certain discord channels wont be available to you, which will also affect this server - depending on your personal choice

[long grove]

other wikis and sources of info may be outta date, use wiki.avakot.org

[mystic sedge]

How do we feel about Torrent vs Alca's Breath bow runes? I feel like Torrent has a higher ceiling on damage but is super inconsistent. Alca's Breath just melts regardless

[keen jacinth]

Im not providing biometric data to a company that has already had public data breaches. Will see which servers are left when it applies I guess, or will delete discord entirely

[ebon wraith]

Torrent is bugged artm, thats why its crazy+AOE damage

[long grove]

runes are always dealers choice. they both end up the same way in the end... a bunch of dead enemies

[mystic sedge]

Oh is it? I know it procs on Arrow Hail. But sometimes I feel like im just relying on enemies standing still or the rng of the torrent bullets actually hitting

[sturdy nova]

Understandable, you're not alone. There have been a HUGE boost in searches for alternatives to Discord 😄

[twilit silo]

I only really use discord for soulframe, I'd happily migrate to reddit and the forums no biggie.

[unborn grail]

for torrent use the mod that slows in arrow hail

[mystic sedge]

Sure but im still trying to stoke conversation lol. It's easy to just say "use what you want" but I'm actually curious on people's opinions

[ebon wraith]

it procs arrow hail of itself too which can get my FPS from 100 to 10 so yeah:)

[dire helm]

I'm just going to 3dprint an old man head to use for face ID. lol

-# as opposed to using my real old man head

[mystic sedge]

Oh yeah good call. Glossed right over that

[sturdy nova]

but any discord channels, including Soulframe, if it has an age restriction for 18+ you wont be able to access it

[fringe tendon]

ok thanks for the info, by the way what level is Ruthos?

[keen jacinth]

is there a way to tell if a channel has a restriction set or is that an admin only thing. I can start removing channels now if there is a way to see it

[dawn arrow]

Hi, It seems current UI only supports 7 Loadouts? Everytime i create an 8th, when i log in later, 1 is removed

[mystic sedge]

I believe you have to buy more through Arcs. Can have up to... 15?

[modest river]

Clem

[dawn arrow]

I have bought, supposidly I have total 11

[mystic sedge]

Oh strange. I'm not sure then. Haven't heard about this bug

[sturdy nova]

not entirely sure, some have it written in the rules for the server or in their EULA (terms of use agreement)

[dawn arrow]

Ok didnt happen again, if it happens again ill post in ther bugs section

[keen jacinth]

Thats what I was wondering, I could see admins just setting servers to 18+ just in case of any language /discussions that might take place in a channel amongst users even if the channel itself isnt 18+ specifically

[frozen ether]

any restricted channels have a warning symbol next to them ⚠️

[keen jacinth]

thanks. thats helpful. I did a quick scan across my discord servers and dont see any warning symbols

[frozen ether]

usually set by server owners

[abstract badge]

Servers themselves can mark as adult servers but you'll only get a notification the first time you access it I think

After that, all the warning symbols also vanish

[frozen ether]

in the uk you have to present id to get past any warning

[abstract badge]

Are the only potions you can learn to rank up Vermina the ones from factions? I chose a sword as my rank2 reward and now I feel stuck until I grind 4500 points to spend on the faction potion.

[sturdy nova]

so if my girlfriend gives me a warning not getting too close, I have to show her ID? 😏

[frozen ether]

😆

[tropic ore]

When is preludes 13?

[long grove]

besides the cloudquell you get from the quest, yeah factions are the only source of potions. you can also make a palette/hue to rank her up too. those are also available in faction

[abstract badge]

Ah ok, I'll grab that as its cheaper I think. Thanks!

[fringe tendon]

can someone explain how the missile rain works?

[tepid nexus]

Are potion frags from factions one time use?

[ebon wraith]

ok so I see people having 100 Wevetseeds how comes I can only have 12 max...?

[abstract badge]

Last an hour for each one and they're consumables

[long grove]

you can only get 1-3 a time on a 12 hour respawn time

[mystic sedge]

you should be able to store up to 100. That was a patch awhile ago

[tepid nexus]

Yeah but i am asking about fragnent specifically, do i need new frag for each craft?

[ebon wraith]

I can only store 12... everytime i pick them up it goes up to 12

[sturdy nova]

devs have said, that every time someone ask for when, they'll delay it with +1 day, so right now I believe we're set for November or December - 2027

[mystic sedge]

Potion recipes arent fragments. Once bought you can craft infinite pots

[mystic sedge]

Sounds like a bug report

[long grove]

it shows a running total. so if you have 12, use 1 and then pick up 1 the next day, it'll still show 12

[abstract badge]

Oh gotcha. I need more coffee

[ebon wraith]

even if I keep picking them up everyday it stays at 12 tho

[long grove]

if you're using as much as you pick up, it's understandable. unless there's a different total on your inventory screen

[mystic sedge]

If you are using zero and pick up consistently but it stays at 12, you want to open a bug report

[ebon wraith]

not using any and if i pick them up keeps saying 12

[long grove]

then bug report

see if the next time you have one available if using one and picking them back up will fix that... never know what could case it to work or break at this stage of development

[sly escarp]

The UI screen shows the total you have, not the amount claimed

Each pick-up only gives 1-3 at random

[mystic sedge]

I think they are aware of that

[long grove]

ye. but he's noted that he's picked it up multiple times without using

[mystic sedge]

Theyre saying their total never goes up on pick even tho they are using 0

[long grove]

so Def a bug

[mystic sedge]

Correct. It sounds like a bug or something that needs to be investigated

[sly escarp]

Ah, that's def weird then

Bug report for sure

[ebon wraith]

in inventory I always have 12 no matter how many times I pick fresh ones(not using them lately)

[long grove]

could try verifying/optimizing and relaunching. only other thing would be maybe using one and seeing if it changes after. still, bug report a good idea.

[ebon wraith]

Did these nothing changed... posted the bug report hope it will be fixed

[long grove]

ahhh yep got all the bases covered on your end then. hope it's resolved quick

[mystic sedge]

At a minimum, hopefully they can just provide you a more direct answer than we have

[ebon wraith]

I even used all of them had 0 and now back to 12

[long grove]

ahhhhh

so it's a genuine cap of 12. prolly an account issue.

[ebon wraith]

otherwise I'd be at a 100 cap

[spare crest]

guys is the winter event over already?

[mystic sedge]

not yet

[spare crest]

did they decide to extend it?

[mystic sedge]

But you have VERY little time left

No it ends when p13 releases

[spare crest]

yeah unfortunatelly I was away

how many more days do I have?

[smoky crater]

it ends when P13 drops

[mystic sedge]

If you have time today/right now, I'd get on it. P13 will very likely release today. If not today then VERY likely monday/tuesday currently

[smoky crater]

which can be today

[spare crest]

hm ok is it easy farm?

[mystic sedge]

Can be done in 1-2 hours if you're quick and have Sirin

[smoky crater]

kinda?
just run around finding the squawkers and hunters

[ebon wraith]

if you use Sirin then super easy 🙂

[spare crest]

yeah I have sirin prime

[mystic sedge]

Fragments drop from enemies, and Sirin's pickpocket will get you easy fragments

[sly escarp]

Likely not Monday

Family day in ON

Statutory Holiday

[mystic sedge]

Oh yeah totally right cause of the holiday. Then Tuesday/Wednesday

[ebon wraith]

pickpocket to max and FARM

[spare crest]

so where are these hunters?

[ebon wraith]

random spawn all around the map

[spare crest]

and these lampposts are scattered everywhere?

[mystic sedge]

Basically
Sirin Prime with max Pickpocket.
Run around listening for weird screeching
Kill enemies around the Sound Lamps
Destroy lamp and get crafted bird feed
Give bird feed to Lamp
Repeat for profit

[ebon wraith]

I farmed mine North east swamp>do a circle clearing enemy camps since they share spawns get 1-2 event feeders>relog and repeat

[mystic sedge]

I recommend this or doing the area to the west of Wevetwood. Both have 1-3 easy camps that can be relogged for respawn

I would say the really valuable things from the event are the Bow and Dagger. Bow is a spirit bow which we dont have. Dagger is especially great since it is a Primary single wield Dagger (easily one of the best feeling weapons in the game)

[spare crest]

any other limited stuff appeared in prelude 12?

[smoky crater]

thawtide stuff is all

[mystic sedge]

Just the event

[ebon wraith]

thawtide is event not tied to Preludes

[smoky crater]

yeah but it started during P12

[ebon wraith]

aka season event(winter)

[mystic sedge]

At this point it's effectively a P12 event since it ends P13. I understand that technically isn't true. But it effectively is

[smoky crater]

ye

[ebon wraith]

It should have ended earlier just they decided to extend it

[mystic sedge]

Correct. They tied it's ending to the launch of p13

[spare crest]

did they add somehow teleporting to places over the map?

[ebon wraith]

yes with Wevetseeds you can fast travel to world trees

[sly escarp]

Wevetseed fast travel

[spare crest]

how do I get these seeds?

[sly escarp]

Sapling next to Verminia's island in the Nightfold after completing Waste Bear

[long grove]

beat the waste bear fable, then you can gather seeds from a plant near vermina. 1-3 on a 12 hour respawn

[spare crest]

there is only way to buy merry motifs with real currency?

[bright moon]

sirin

[sly escarp]

Yes

[sly escarp]

Motifs are shop only

[spare crest]

are they limited and wont come back?

so is it worth buying them now for collection?

[ebon wraith]

it is winter event so my guess next winter 🙂

[sly escarp]

They will likely either stay, or come back next Winter

[long grove]

they will more than likely come back if they don't stay

[mystic sedge]

I wish Motifs were also tied to loadouts lolol

[karmic jolt]

Is it a bug that my radar keeps disappearing even though I select something and send the bird?

[long grove]

the compass by default is set to fade away over time. you can keep it always up with an option in the settings. under accessibility, or you can search for compass.

[pallid sentinel]

I first time encountered this, what should I do?

[long grove]

on another level, there will be an orb/egg. bring it down and place it on there

[mystic sedge]

Man I hope they give us more reason to go into Circade and Neath'uns. Those places are so sick. I just dont have a reason to go in them anymore

[finite stone]

Absolutely, more reason to go into dungeons is one of my most wanted things for this game rn

Especially Neath'uns since they're completely unused other than a brief neathcaps farm

[zenith knoll]

i will keep farming crypt until I collect enough feybalt joineries for magic weps

but yeah otherwise there's not much to do

[mystic sedge]

100%. At least for Glades and Undercity you get taken there for faction quests. Even if for now they just expand faction quests to Neath and Circade, I'd love it. I dont care if im only there for 5 minutes. I just want a reason to go about the whole world

[fathom elm]

omg i farmed animals to get ally for a hour and then accidentaly pressed left click and ok cuz i always think thats the upgrade button

then i farmed it again finally got it then i deleted it again

i hate the left click delete option it feels like upgrade option bruh

[hexed flicker]

the Neath definitely feels under-utilized... like there aren't even chests in there

[hexed flicker]

I did that with my torrent rune yesterday...

[fathom elm]

its so dumb left click is always for upgrade menu

delete is always a seperate button

[past drift]

Absolutely this. I never go into dungeons anymore unless a faction tale requires it

[hexed flicker]

yup i was trying to upgrade it to mark it as a "keeper" so it would be easier to sort what i need to keep and what to toss

[spring juniper]

hello there! got 1 question

do i supposed to get more keys for soulframe ?

[unique timber]

did you purchase a founders pack?

[white igloo]

I think I still have some Prelude key codes

if that's what you mean

[spare crest]

I no longer see bird cages at night do they only spawn during the day?

[hollow gust]

Is it the blacksmith that also craft caster weapons?

[long grove]

yes

[long grove]

just rng, they can spawn any time of day

[spare crest]

do I get anything if someone registers for soulframe with my key?

[long grove]

a new friend

[spare crest]

I no longer see them when 1-3 camp spawned before

[long grove]

just random where they spawn

[white igloo]

Also, go to settings to enable a permanent compass

[bronze plank]

nice

[long grove]

if you're looking to grind, go to the swamp in the NE. look around, deal with what you find, relog, repeat

[spring juniper]

no i received access 23rd july

[upbeat heart]

can i have a prelude key please 🙏

[mystic sedge]

The only way to get extra codes is to either buy a founders pack or watch the streams they do. The streams are weekly at the moment

Do not ask for codes in this channel. If you want to follow up with someone then DM then

[long grove]

if you got in on an invite from DE you can check your account page on soulframe.com to see if youhave any spares

[pliant grotto]

do you know when the next stream is?

[long grove]

if you got a code from someone else you won't tho

[spring juniper]

im on this site but dunno where to look or just dont got any1

[white igloo]

https://www.soulframe.com/en/promocodes

[mystic sedge]

Check the news channel and do a little digging. I dont remember the exact date.

[white igloo]

Be sure to log into your account though

[mystic sedge]

Looks like next stream is tuesday

[spring juniper]

thanks every1 for help!

[pliant grotto]

cheers

[fathom elm]

durlight + garren rood + flyblades + life steal on flyblades equals 1.5k damage every hit on your flyblades and your rune recharging everytime and never runs out so you have 1.5k consistant damage around you forever till u have enemies nearű

[spare crest]

which is the best pact to use with odiac?

[fathom elm]

and you 1 shot bosses

but tethren is too op

[wet tulip]

when i was lvling a rostrum i found how broken flitsmoke is xD

literally 1 smite is needed for infinite stealth and back stabbing xD

i guess onlydown side are enemies that cant be back stabbed

but you can still attack them without them registering where you are

[spare crest]

which is the best pact to use with odiac?

[mystic sedge]

The best pact to use with anything right now is Tethren because Fellust is over powered as heck. But in general the weapon and pact are pretty independant aside from certain ones like Orengall favoring melee and Bromius favoring high armor builds

[bronze elk]

I was just saying the same thing last night

[wet tulip]

i guess depends on which way of fighting you gonna do. aka charge attack or fast attacks @spare crest

[mystic sedge]

My personal recommendation for Odiac would be Oscelda, Mora's Hand, or Ode Tempest because these pacts either favor being far away or provide some ability to create distance. But again, its more of a preference thing. It works completely fine and well with Garren Rood and the like

[wet tulip]

yup im gonna try it when P13 goes out. because in the last vid the devs made it states grace will make back stabbing stronger xD

[mystic sedge]

Flintsmoke Rostrum is going to RULE come p13. I guarantee it

Use the new dual blade as a sidearm and you have yourself a graceful, stealthy swordsman with infinite invis or flaming dual blades

[wet tulip]

ngl im gonna look if theres another short blade with better smite chance and dmg

[mystic sedge]

I favor the rostrum because the single dagger weapon combo is so fast, clean, and easy. Even if something has a higher smite chance, I'd still prob favor the rostrum over dual shortblades

[half talon]

I'm curious to see the new fire gauntlets. Not a fan of fire in games (love fire otherwise) but it'll be nice to see something other than voltaic

[wet tulip]

we dont know if dualblades be able to use flintsmoke though

[mystic sedge]

I doubt that is changing in p13. In the long run maybe. But it doesn't sound like the weapon skill tree rework is anywhere close

[wet tulip]

i just noticed i wrote shortblades instead of dual blades xD

[upper pollen]

Would anyone per chance have a spare code so I am able to and not get too far behind my friends

[mystic sedge]

Well dual blades and shortblades are the same atm. The new sidearm is going to be a shortblade.

[wet tulip]

i wonder if they gonna make is spirit attuned only or add in courage too

since fire is fitting the mora side of lore

[finite stone]

Interestingly, they only deal regular Arcanic damage in the devstream. Really hoping they've updated that since for the live build!

[half talon]

Would make sense for Spirit since spirit will be focused on magic

[mystic sedge]

Seeing as how Mora's Hand's biggest fireblast damage ability will be tuned to courage, I wouldnt be shocked to see fire gauntlets have courage attunes

Well we know more than a few weapons will now be hybrid attunements

[wet tulip]

yup what i was thinking it might be both

[finite stone]

They will have guaranteed Spirit attunement like all magick weapons in P13, but then they may also have additional courage attunement due to their connection to Fenn

[golden shard]

any lucky my good envoy?

[mystic sedge]

So that they can be used in multiple builds. they just have more scaling on their base attunements

[upper pollen]

Sadly not brother

[hollow patio]

do i guess no update today

[mystic sedge]

likely too early to tell

They can easily drop it at like 2-4est and still totally be within the DE likelihood realm

[spare crest]

fast

[wet tulip]

if it doesnt come out today its gonna be tuesday since monday is family day

[long grove]

we got about a 5 hour window relaaxxxx... cuz if it isn't ready to be shipped yet. you don't want them to release it on their upcoming 3 day weekend

p11 part 2

[mystic sedge]

Wasnt p12 dropped on a friday afternoon?

I remember them working into the wee hours on the founders stuff

[spare crest]

I crafted 10 seeders I only needed one right? 😐 is there a way to refund the cost materials???

[wet tulip]

i guess you can try orengall and ode tempest and see which one you prefer

[long grove]

like the third "delay" so far

[mystic sedge]

not necessarily. DE are masters of trying to push something last second, but then having to pull it. Unfortunate, but totally understandable

[abstract badge]

I'm guessing today. Preludes 13 on the 13th

[long grove]

the original hope was by end of January

[spare crest]

anyne?

[long grove]

but it's prealpha gotta get comfy with development

[velvet veldt]

Maybe March, who knows.

[long grove]

can't refund, but only one? you need at least 6 to get enough fragments for lord and lady cardinal

[mystic sedge]

I believe you use 1 seeder per Sound Lamp so you need multiple. Even still no way to refund, but the materials are very very easily farmed

[spare crest]

I managed to collect everything from event except from dagger how many fragments does it need and is it very rare drop??

[mystic sedge]

It can only drop when your enemies are above like level 30. It is rarer but the closer they are to lvl 50 the more frags youll get. Also make sure you are pickpocketing with Sirin. It'll come. Shouldnt take more than a hour when mobs are 30+

Those enemies get higher levels each Sound Lamp cleared

[tiny hatch]

Which Long Blade rune is better for raw damage output right now?

[mystic sedge]

I dont have exact numbers but I'd probably wager Fire Rune, especially due to it going through block and the DoT added. Mistgale does quite a bit of damage, but I dont think it's as bursty

[tiny hatch]

I suspected this. I didn't realize that the damage bypassed block though, good to know!

[hollow patio]

what they mean by charged attack

like mb3 ?

[spare crest]

anyone?

[mystic sedge]

I answered your question above my guy

[mystic sedge]

@spare crest

[spare crest]

thanks. do they retain lvl increase even after I logout?

[mystic sedge]

Yes

[spare crest]

hm k

how many fragments does dagger need?

[frigid spoke]

2

[spare crest]

also do they get lvl increase if I kill them or just lamps?

[sly escarp]

The Hunter level increases with each Hunter you kill

[spare crest]

even after I logout right?

[sly escarp]

Yes

Breaking the Squawkers has nothing to do with the Hunter levels

[spare crest]

this game is absolutely gorgeous...

[latent prism]

Tf do I do with squawkers

[tiny hatch]

you get fragments called "Seeders" when you break them. Craft those and place them in the broken squawkers to lure cardinals

[turbid vapor]

Yooo i got green writing

5 mins guys

[hollow patio]

yo see chat in game

[mystic sedge]

Screenshot it for us stuck at work!

[turbid vapor]

Ahhhhhhh

[oak osprey]

They also drop fragments for a talisman when you break them

[mystic sedge]

Best get on that Rostrum farm lololololol

[sly escarp]

You'll have to find out next year!

[mystic sedge]

5 minutes to get one of the best weapons in the game!

(probably not after p13)

[smoky crater]

i mean... you still got 15 minutes

pretty sure there's a 15min timer before it auto kicks you

[mystic sedge]

Oh right. before the force kick

[smoky crater]

after the update gets deployed yeah

[void lintel]

Hello i have 1 question , i have acess the preludes can i invite friends to get acess too?

[hollow patio]

yes

[spare crest]

what do do first when preludes 13 arrives?

[unborn grail]

if you buy one of the packs yeah

[tepid nexus]

Only if you are founder i think

[hollow patio]

if ur founder

[void lintel]

but i already have acess to the game i need buy the founder pack ?

[tropic nacelle]

Founder pack gives you extra codes that you can also obtain watching devstreams

[sly escarp]

Founders pack comes with some codes to give away, but isn't needed by any means

[visual radish]

Basically you need to have extra access codes
Either through founders or from watching more streams that have the access twitch drop

[spare crest]

is preludes 13 big update?

what to do first priority when it arrives?

[hollow patio]

its live

download\

going in 100mbs

done

wow nice u can speed up mission loading

[cursive lotus]

he can't both have it shaped like that and call it The Organ :v

[pine latch]

hi guys. where is the best spot to farm ducks

[split crest]

Near water

[pine latch]

ty

[earnest timber]

OMG is it happening?

[wet tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/vh1-signed-3ohzAWPbp0ZyUpYTD2

[long grove]

go to swamp areas, like birdies bog to the SW or the swamp by creedance high to the far NE

[turbid vapor]

Bulletjumping into the update like i said

[slender glacier]

Still waiting for my Necromancer soulframe!

[pine latch]

ty

[wet tulip]

GG its courage too

[gusty wraith]

I'm assuming this is purchased from Kith of Kings?

[wet tulip]

and there is a grace staff too

[gusty wraith]

Do we know yet or still unclear

[wet tulip]

i just logged in to check ill go look

as it looks rn there are 3 new weapons

[void lintel]

1 more question , i already have 1 char in my account, can i delete this one and create a new one?

[amber bolt]

Any news on how to get it without the shop? :3

[wet tulip]

idk rn but my next target is to check kith shop

LOL idk if this is a bug but my odiac is still courage attuned xD

unless odiac got courage attunement too since this patch

[deep compass]

what does this virtue requirment mean, that 16/14?

[sly escarp]

IT'S RARE?????

HOLY SHEET

Finally a Rare staff!

[sly escarp]

No, you can't.

[wet tulip]

the weapon needs atleast 14 spirit to use. if you have less then 14 spirit you deal nerfed dmg

[sly escarp]

They just changed it

Below the requirement you do no bonus damage now

[lament path]

One day we will get a rare gauntlet too

[glad flume]

Okay nice compromise for the prisms in enclaves. You have to obtain the rank, but it only costs 1 once you do

[deep compass]

ah so you have 16 and its required 14, got it thx

[wet tulip]

here i swapped virtue prism here is the nerfed state

[sly escarp]

Not seeing the halved damage values that would normally be there

Means just the no bonus, right?

Oh, wait

Dang

That is still like halved

Welp, log that in #1438224825113120788

[sly escarp]

PAtch notes said that wasn't a thing anymore so it might have slipped through

[wet tulip]

theres clearly attunement requirment still in

cant wait to go sprirt/courage build xD

[deep compass]

and what does the amount of spirit/courage icons mean?

[arctic cedar]

Combat mages but I am also thinking short sword and gauntlets

Which means grace and spirit?

[wet tulip]

im not sure about the courage. from what i understood all magick weapons should have spirit as their main attunement

[arctic cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/rupaul-karma-drag-gif-18709859

[gusty dagger]

where do i get more of them?

[wet tulip]

but rn my odian which was mora blessed before P13 got more courage attunment then spirit

[sly escarp]

Patch notes said most are split and scale with 2 virtues

[deep compass]

no i mean why are there 2 moon icons(spirit) and 3 sun icons(courage)?

[wet tulip]

yes but check my odiac is scaling more on the courage side

and the blessed by mora is still there

BUT

this got reverted

so theres clearly some changes

[sly escarp]

Means it scales with Spirit and Courage

[wet tulip]

more on the courage side since 3 suns

[fathom elm]

drip is alr better

[glad flume]

Wonder if its better to turn 3/2 into a 3/3 or a 4/2 with rejoining

[amber bolt]

Are there any Virtues to get quickly? 🥲

[deep compass]

yes but why not just 1 moon and 1 sun icon?

[glad flume]

Enclave has prisms

[sly escarp]

More icons = scales more per point of that virtue

[wet tulip]

pretty sure 3 icons means higher scaling

[deep compass]

makes sense, thx!

[wet tulip]

as in you can reach higher dmg numbers

[finite stone]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Gossamer_Quartz

[glad flume]

wonder what the 1:X is for four star

[deep compass]

yea i get it, was just so much information on the patch and i am new here so had to ask xD

[wet tulip]

holy sheeet

now thats alot of dmg

[sly escarp]

Thorw a Mora's on that

5 Courage scaling OP OP

[wet tulip]

from what i understand there are no blessed anymore

[sly escarp]

There are

They ADD a virtue scaling now

Instead of overriding it

[wet tulip]

nope

example number one

blessed by mora no sun icons

[sly escarp]

From the patch notes

[halcyon thicket]

Meaning no courage override

[finite stone]

This looks more like a bug than an intended lack of effect

[sly escarp]

It might be that the Starling is bugged

[raven axle]

I feel like the movement is a lot smoother now

[glad flume]

The joinery you have is incompatible, looks like

[arctic cedar]

How os Dewelion?

[wet tulip]

this was courage blessed pre P13 xD

[glad flume]

Since the weapon only has grace, it probably only works with grace blessed joineries?

[wet tulip]

this ^

most likely everybody using blessed joineries to change attunement need to rework their arsenal

[sly escarp]

In most cases, yeah

[glad flume]

I'm just curious if its gonna be better to try to 50/50 between multi-virtue weapons like Purity, or just lean harder into the already higher virtue.

[sly escarp]

Anyways, you can still throw a Mora blessed on Marrow's Bane to make it 5 Courage

[wet tulip]

this means this one without blessed should have been 2 spirit/2 courage

[bitter roost]

Is there a release date already or not yet?

[sly escarp]

Purity's multi-virtue now?

[sly escarp]

For the update?

[wet tulip]

P13 is live now

[bitter roost]

The game on steam

[wet tulip]

its spirit too

[sly escarp]

Unknown

[wet tulip]

and courage

[sly escarp]

Oooh, nice

[bitter roost]

the only way to access this game is through either founder and twitch drops right?

thanks thanks

[wet tulip]

or get lucky by someone giving you a code

[bitter roost]

I bought the founders just now

downloading it

[sly escarp]

Or the weekly access handouts

[verbal edge]

so, i change faction and now i cant get any armor, nice att

[signal turret]

Perhaps I am just missing it, but are there any courage based sidearms now?

[glad flume]

Yep, courage and spirit

Mendicant King's armor as well

[sly escarp]

Split virtue ones

[trim oriole]

kinda unfair the only courage sidearm is paid isnt it?

[young lodge]

I have to say, despite how amazing the melee feels, the way that the camera is so much more "centered" on your envoy makes it REALLY hard to SEE anything. Like push the camera "half a foot to the right" and it would be perfect

[sly escarp]

There's plenty of split scaling ones that are courage

[glad flume]

For now. Pay to not wait has been DE's business model forever

[amber bolt]

I don't have the stats for any sword now 🥲

[dawn arrow]

Avacot no longer sells Pacts

[wet tulip]

you got odiac which have courage scaling

[signal turret]

Do you know which ones? None of the ones I have before seem to be split ;-;

[sly escarp]

Odiac is split Spirit and Courage

As is the new fire wrist casters

Not sure about others yet

[trim oriole]

Grin is grace courage aswell

[narrow condor]

my chest hair is gone 0.0

[abstract badge]

What are the requirements on purity and king armor?

[halcyon thicket]

... interesting new loading screen huh

[wet tulip]

mandicant king seems to be best in slot for courage/spirit builds

[signal turret]

Am I reading this wrong...?

[prisma crescent]

how do I distrubute points now?

[abstract badge]

Thanks much

I run Rood, so this should be OK still

[trim oriole]

you need 16 grace to use it but after that is scales equally with courage and grace

as i understand

[wet tulip]

swap to grace prism

[sly escarp]

By equipping prisms, can get more prisms via factions

[echo burrow]

anyone figure out where to get the new weapons?

[trim oriole]

tales and organ

[sly escarp]

Faction tales for the Staff, Kith tales for the Gauntlets, Organ for the Daggers

[queen valley]

i feel like xp was increased? i just took rook from 28 to 30 killing random mobs as i ran along

[signal turret]

This feels unintuitive, but I do understand now thank you lol.

[wet tulip]

paragon gonna be all rounder now

[abstract badge]

Is there a starting prism that works well with Mendicant King and Purty?

[civic tangle]

courage leaning or courage spirit hybrid

[glad flume]

Oh snap, Erstroot got bumped up to a 3-virtue scaling

[deep compass]

Does it scale with courage at all if its only grace weapon?

[sly escarp]

Wait really?

[abstract badge]

Wow, Paragon quite a bit over Purity now

[wet tulip]

yup

[sly escarp]

Interesting

[trim oriole]

its not only grace, its 2 grace 2 courage, look at the symbols they are different

[abstract badge]

I might have to switch back to Paragon then. I just got purity 😄

[wet tulip]

with the current starter prisms paragon outscales purity

[trim oriole]

courage suns are more twisty

[deep compass]

Ah my bad, its super similar when greyed out

[wet tulip]

but im pretty sure if theres gonna be better courage prism purify will take the no 1 spot

[glad flume]

It evens out with the specialty prisms, I think?
Mora's Beast has me sitting at like 38 courage

[wet tulip]

yeah im going rn to collect all them prisms

[abstract badge]

Where do you get that one?

[glad flume]

Honestly not in favor of this. I liked that grace had its own greatsword :/

Though Witan is now Grace to match Dewelion, happy about that

[trim oriole]

Bro

[trim oriole]

melee feels so good now

literally clean af

[errant olive]

First impression I'm not too happy with this system, but gonna play with it for a couple days and see how I feel.

[wet tulip]

on alca enclave shop

[amber bolt]

I'm not of a high enough rank to get this 🥲

[wet tulip]

for courage and spirit scaling knight o'paladine seems like the wae

[deep compass]

So basically if blessings dont change attunement now, the weapons are now stuck with the virtue scaling they have, so if you want a weapon that is only grace you need to use grace no way around?

[wet tulip]

maybe kith got some too

[prisma crescent]

I bought Basker's Wrest from the Mora faction, but i think I received some duel daggers fragment instead

[wet tulip]

yes but you can make it scale higher with blessed grace joineries

[sly escarp]

Pretty much

[glad flume]

Without any points spect on pact

[wet tulip]

which pact you are using?

[deep compass]

But you cant stack the blessings, only 1 active at one time right, new one will replace old one? (Never did blessing so thats why i ask)

[wet tulip]

yup

[sly escarp]

Correct

[civic tangle]

does literally anyone know what you're supposed to do at the top of the organ

[novel moon]

Do the virtue quest reward still give a specific virtue?

[glad flume]

With pact points spent

[stark plaza]

So 2 new weapons from 3 star tales, 1 universal and one to Kith of Kings, 1 weapon exclusive to the Ivory Tower and 1 armor set attached to it too.

[civic tangle]

i thought it bugged out on my first attempt but i tried again and still literally nothing is happening so either it's bugged or the objective is just not intuitive enough

[deep compass]

And if weapon is only grace lets say, can you add 1 point of spirit on it via blessing or it needs to be the attunement weapon already has ?

[amber bolt]

Is there a difference in reputation gained from 3 star votives if I take one in the low level zone vs one at a higher level zone?

[glad flume]

I haven't actually hit the commit button, but when I slot a virtue not on the weapon, its star shows up?

[wet tulip]

you cant add different attunement

[dry rampart]

Is there a way to make it so quick time events are smth you hold the button down for?

[wet tulip]

if it scales with both spirit and grace then you can choose which one you want to buff with blessed

[civic tangle]

figured it out because it somehow consistently gave me the same number/slot 4 times in a row so i thought it was literally just an ammo indicator

[deep compass]

@wet tulip @glad flume could any of you test it?

[wet tulip]

i got prime example

[deep compass]

So doesnt work?

[wet tulip]

i had this blessed to courage pre P13 and now it doesnt add courage scaling

[deep compass]

Cant add new just buff existing

[glad flume]

I'm wondering if those might just be bugged- wait

I think you need to actually have the virtue requirement

Up your grace and check it again

[wet tulip]

even with the requirment it only scaling with grace

[arctic cedar]

What does the bear drop then? Nothing for now or random fragments?

[wet tulip]

only grace

[deep compass]

Probably you cant yea. Thanks

[oak osprey]

does anyone know what you're supposed to do at the organ? I'm just running around killing stuff and the doors don't open

[wet tulip]

essentially the mora blessed i used on this is trashed

[meager tree]

clearly a bug, did you report it?

[wet tulip]

nothing to report i simply need to use grace blessed joinery on this

[glad flume]

Okay this is weird, because yeah Starling it doesn't work, but

[deep compass]

Do you lose totems and runes if you sell the weapon that has it equipped?

[wet tulip]

DE when they did the attunment changes didnt reset their joineries

[meager tree]

...its a bug, you report that its not adding a courage pip when blessed by mora... look at how literally every other weapon works with blessed joineries

[wet tulip]

blessed joineries doesnt add new pips if the weapon itself doesnt scale with said virtue in the first place

[finite stone]

Wonder what a sibyl is

[meager tree]

sorry dude you are so wrong

[finite stone]

great update for lore drops ngl

[glad flume]

Its definitely a bug

[finite stone]

this is not true, you're just experiencing a bug on your starling. report it in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788

[wet tulip]

oooo i see

and i was thinking it cant work because of this

[meager tree]

a blessed joinery adds a pip of its virtue to the weapon, period. does not matter. its a bug. you are wrong. report it please

[wet tulip]

well theres a active ticket i just linked my starling pic there

[stark plaza]

Damn is that the new staff? Did you really farmed it right away or bought with Arcs

[narrow condor]

Is there a way to bring back the bigger damage numbers

[amber bolt]

My spellblade ambitions have been temporarily put to rest 💔

[meager tree]

hit harder

[narrow condor]

more damage = bigger?

[fast ibex]

OOOf.. This destroyed my build

[meager tree]

are you talking about font size lol?

[finite stone]

wait who's that in response to? I can't see anyone with seathorn in this chat

[narrow condor]

yeah

[frozen ether]

ya wondering what my courage build is looking like now i havent logged on yet

[wet tulip]

seems like no more 45+ courage builds for now xD

[glad flume]

OH SHIT, YES

When you use Tethren's 1, it'll show you how many hits you have left by how much its filled now

[wet tulip]

gonna check kith shop now though

[stark plaza]

Oh I confused it then, can’t recognize Starling, a founder weapon?

[finite stone]

yeah that's just wyld sirin's bow

[fast ibex]

Royal tines were put spirit.. now grace weapon. That was my main weapon. PLUS the lack of customization from only be given 4 virture prisms

[meager tree]

why dont we have an orengal werewalker timer yet >:_<

[wet tulip]

ikr

[glad flume]

have you checked, we might lol

[wet tulip]

always a gamble when you cant know when you gotta cash in on the path you went xD

[meager tree]

prolly because tethren users struggle counting to 5

[unborn grail]

why do i have waaaay less stat points now?

[meager tree]

p13

[unborn grail]

i used to have 32 -30-13

bleh

[fast ibex]

LUL we are all nerfed

[dawn galleon]

Seems like pacts no longer give a virtue bonus, and the virtue nodes only give 1 per dot. Didn't they used to give 1 per point spent?

[wet tulip]

yup the total virtue numbers we had is nerfed

[glad flume]

rip, we dont

Also we have less points now, but we're getting way more from the points we have. Combat feels a lot better, imo

[frozen ether]

shall see tomorrow

if i log on now im not sleeping 🤣

[ebon wraith]

Who needs sleep when DE drops such a banger patch 🙂

[meager tree]

lol exactly, 30 courage p12 is totally different than 30 courage p13. the system is completely different

[final rock]

ah wow P13

on Friday the 13th

[ebon wraith]

its Friday 13 hehe

[frozen ether]

huhhhhhh

[fast ibex]

How do you get more viture prism then?

[ionic mesa]

what's the frist step in doing the organ I'm lost here haha

[narrow condor]

Do you guys like the new movement? kinda feels off, like super atheletic, not human like

[meager tree]

reading the patchnotes

[glad flume]

I'm not entirely sold on it, but I think more people will like it than hate it

[meager tree]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1471944312689262745

[wet tulip]

umm seems like some totems arent working

got 2 magick armor totems on rn which should make my magick armor atleast 30 but its less xD

[civic tangle]

i think armor totems were nerfed as a result of armor becoming better

[narrow condor]

idk its like a buff i dont rly have to think about my position now i just jump and shoot hahah

[unborn grail]

guess ill just wait on a video explaining what prisms go well with which builds, i dont wanna spend all my time testing that when i can listen to the organ soundtrack

[fast ibex]

Oh god.. so you get them by doing the worst part of hte game.. the LONG faction grind

[wet tulip]

weapon totems dont scale at all

[prisma crescent]

they were only 1 faction point each

[civic tangle]

correct

what i am saying is that totems themselves were nerfed because armor itself now scales

greatswords rats used to give 11 physical armor at max, mine now says 5

[wet tulip]

what i mean the weapon totem that give armor are usless right now

since this is where i get the armor points

[frozen ether]

i thought u cant stack totems like that anyway, may be wrong

[fiery slate]

I thought you could now switch factions just by going to talk to the faction lead? I did the quest to get into the Silent Rose and the leader inside said i do not bear the talisman.

[wet tulip]

you cant stack if you put same totem in both slots but this is different weapons

[civic tangle]

i wouldn't say they're worthless

it just helps top off specific armors

they just aren't being the entire contribution of that armor value now

[meager tree]

15 minutes till downloaded..

[wet tulip]

no i mean out of the +15 magick armor it gives +0 xDDD

[lament path]

Getting bonus armour now from virtues might mean enemies could hit harder too

[trim oriole]

Whats organ cooldown?

3hours?

[fast ibex]

They still didn't put anything in the pacts to tell what each point the prisms give you for each ability. Fun.. I GUESS this will do better

[civic tangle]

9 + 7 + 8 magick armor from your equipped armor, 24 total

you have 27 magick armor, so the value is lower than 15 but definitely way lower than it should be

it is working, but they may have missed the mark with the rebalance of armor totems

they just didn't update the description, is all.

[wet tulip]

this is my numbers rn

[civic tangle]

u should have posted that instead of the other ones with different numbers then

[wet tulip]

which add up to 27 meaning weapon totem dont give anything

[civic tangle]

was very confusing

but yes with your actual armor numbers then it is 27

[wet tulip]

yes which was my point weapon totem that give armor are not working at all

might be a bug

[civic tangle]

it wouldn't be the first time that totems weren't applying, or at least not showing up in loadout

[surreal stratus]

Replace the conductor at the organs peak? Anyone know what that means?

[craggy wraith]

where can i find the sheep to get this new pact? or was that announced for the future updates?

[rigid musk]

What's the waste bear location?

[prisma crescent]

I had one pop up like a stag

[fast ibex]

wow, so they for sure got rid of build variety 🙁 At least, it feels that way

went from having good armor to no armor

[unborn grail]

what drops does the bear have? the new weapons are faction tale and organ based right?

[glad flume]

lolwut, thats a pretty pessimistic way to look at it. Before you really only had one way to build a weapon, now you can gear it for things like hybrid builds.

[finite stone]

I thought you could now switch factions just by going to talk to the faction lead?

Nope, not sure where you've heard that from? Faction switching hasn't been changed

[prisma crescent]

I got another marrow's bane dropped from bear

[wet tulip]

yeah i just made a bug ticket

[finite stone]

the new weapons are faction tale and organ based right?

almost - Clivers is organ but also Reaper/Etheldred, then the other two come from specific tales yeah

[raven axle]

They will nerf Oscelda for sure.

[wet tulip]

and not tethren xD?

[raven axle]

that too lol

[wet tulip]

tethren is the most broken rn xD

[civic tangle]

tethren got a slap on the wrist because you can't just courage stack and use any weapon with tethren 1

the existing courage weapons will still abuse it but you can't just use anything with it now

[wet tulip]

polearm heavy attacks still busted though xD

with the tethren bonus

[forest glen]

im a big purity enjoyer

but yeah tethren bow is kinda indirect nerfed

[twilit silo]

Anyone know how to climb to the. top of the organ im just wondering around after clearing out the inside of the tower.

[civic tangle]

yea thats what i mean

melee gets to abuse it still, bows and magick not so much

fully expect it to be adjusted again/reworked though

[forest glen]

you can still get a lot of courage scaling if you use blitzel but the smite chance on that bow is really terrible

[civic tangle]

yeah, also still requires grace so you have to figure out how to equip it

which prob means less courage investment still, so it won't be abusing tethren 1 as hard as it could previously with the like. 47 courage or w/e

[trim oriole]

before i run across the map are all the organs on a seperate cooldown?

[civic tangle]

yeah i did multiple

[forest glen]

all the prisms add up to the same stat total right?

[wet tulip]

yes the total should be the same

[trim oriole]

yeah, its just different % spits as far as i can see

[civic tangle]

yeah all of my prisms add up to 52

[wet tulip]

what MR are you mine add up to 56

[civic tangle]

17

[wet tulip]

weird im 17 too

[civic tangle]

oh, are you using a wyld?

[wet tulip]

yup

[civic tangle]

you probably have all the virtue passives allocated, i don't

[wet tulip]

got all the virtue perks maxed

[civic tangle]

using orengall atm

[wet tulip]

ah i see

[civic tangle]

they finally hid the claw on orengall

[wet tulip]

holey jesus

odiac lightning strikes from the rune has a huge aoe now

[knotty moon]

Holy nerf, the Pact upgrades give 1 Virtue point at every level.

[quartz sinew]

https://medal.tv/games/soulframe/clips/m721GzkiPYudG6n9J?invite=cr-MSx2RXMsMjczMTQ5NDA4&v=0#
im here right now and totally lost with what to do can anyone help?

[wet tulip]

that yes big rip no more +10 xD

[knotty moon]

Hopefully it is a bug.

[frigid spoke]

hit f6 for a screen shot

[quartz sinew]

that is a screen shot

[frigid spoke]

yeah but that's alot added

[quartz sinew]

totally lost rn nothing in journal nothing

[wicked anchor]

Hello everyone!
Did something change regarding getting the syndicate missions over the last 2 updates? I don't get any new Silent Rose missions for some reason. I am also not rep capped if that's relevant

[sterile pine]

All things considered I'm pretty cnotent with the prism changes mostly because they let us get the faction ones for one point so older players don't start from scratch

[wet tulip]

they should appear nearby after some time

[ember pasture]

You get them from the trees now.

[wet tulip]

oo good to know

[wicked anchor]

The world trees? Interesting, thanks

[quartz sinew]

Anyone can help?

[wet tulip]

no grave or something there?

[ripe bloom]

Yo what do you do when you get to the top of those 'towers'?

I've replaced the 'Conductor' and can see the glowing nodes all over but can't shoot them or anything

[wicked anchor]

press numbers

[ripe bloom]

ohhhh

[quartz sinew]

na literally nothing

[wicked anchor]

This is a rhythm game

[echo burrow]

getting this weird bug where I keep getting launched into the air now lol

[wicked anchor]

Have you pressed "G"? Where does your birb go?

[quartz sinew]

no where its weird

[iron dust]

Does anyone know where the new weapons drop?

[tropic charm]

"you can unlock the prisms right away" yeah sure

[iron dust]

It costs 1 standing to unlock so jsut do the closest 1 star quest

[sterile pine]

0 standing......

[wet tulip]

some you need to just talk to the main npc in the enclave some you need to grind for BUT no rng

[hardy wolf]

I got seaform frags 3 in a row from t3 tale
Could craft sidearm when logging in and brought magic one from faction

[tropic charm]

we're rich 🔥

[wet tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/footage-rare-flips-a8TIlyVS7JixO

[dusty hatch]

That is so insanely bad it has to be a bug. Why would you spend 4 level points to get 1 more virtue point.

[abstract badge]

How do you get standing?

[tropic charm]

anyone know if u actually need to switch to get them all? cause jotar is selling sirin/oscelda stuff for some reason

[knotty moon]

Wyld balancing?
You can afford to fill out most of the tree with that.

[wet tulip]

i think if the prism got 2 virtue it means both enclaves sell them

i bought courage/ spirit prism on alca enclave and then swapped to kith and there were none there except the courage only ones

[tropic charm]

so 1 more week to get them all due to cooldown -_-

[dusty hatch]

+1 to a virtue is so bad it's basically a placeholder, like the old joineries. That's not "balancing"

[wet tulip]

yup pact virtue bonuses got nerfed hard this version

[tropic charm]

with how low they are i could use the +1..... (keep in mind i have triune talisman so +3 to everything)

[unborn grail]

why do i get less virtue points with wild tethren than any other class?

[trim oriole]

just me or the compendium is broken

[dusty hatch]

Overall the game got much easier tho, didn't it? I slapped Wald spirit prism on with and a wand and kill everything on screen with ease now. Much higher damage, faster CDs. Feels actually powerful now. Just no reason to experiment with the confusing prism mechanic at all.

[trim oriole]

doesnt show anything you dont have

[wet tulip]

dmg scaling got buffed 100% with that i agree

my odiac feel much stronger

[zenith knoll]

are Vadagar spawns bugged? my current enclave tale asks me to kill a stag but the spawn point doesn't seem to exist

[civic tangle]

dewelion has a new moveset??

[trim oriole]

all long blades do

[civic tangle]

i see

[calm pagoda]

Smoothed lock-on magnetism to allow for more responsive target acquisition

I just started downloading, did they add lock on mechanism to the game?

[wet tulip]

anyone knows where to get the new staff and dual daggers? the fire wrists are sold on kith enclave

[glad flume]

not camera lock, no

[smoky crater]

auto lock on still just like always

[calm pagoda]

Okay

[dusty hatch]

This prism mechanic is not appealing at all to me. Mixing stats or evening them out feels weird, idk. Low numbers, Jack of all trades, but nothing maxed...

[wet tulip]

but the combat with it does seem more fluent

[smoky crater]

dawg be sniffin

[abstract badge]

I think we need the higher ranked ones to do that

[tropic charm]

same

[trim oriole]

staff from t3 tales, wrist from t3 keith tales, clivers from organ, spider and dog bosses

[dusty hatch]

It's in the patch notes, as always . Staff from t3 tales, clovers from Organ event, wizard and reaper

[unborn grail]

Wyld Oscelda - 36c - 9s - 7g
Wyld sirin - 36c - 9s - 11g
Wyld thetren - 32c - 5s - 7g

All while running the same prism? this has to be bugged no?

[glad flume]

There are specialist prisms

[green moth]

Honestly, I want to play the game. I just can't get behind the combat, and the more updates that kind of cook spells and animations behind this combat the more I worry about the future of the game. I can deal with whatever lore, with what ever dialogue system, and whatever questing system they use. I cannot deal with a movement/combat system that just feels so underwhelming. I still will keep my hopes up though!

[abstract badge]

Combat is one of the main draws for me

[dusty hatch]

I know, but if you put this on and are satisfied, chances are you won't touch the prism stuff again and mess your entire build up. This system feels unintuitive, needlessly convoluted and obtuse compared to the old one, imo.

[wet tulip]

there is

[trim oriole]

melee feels amazing after this update tbf

[unborn grail]

prisms or at least the interactions with pacts seem hella bugged cause im confused prime with why my wyld pacts are so wildly different in virtue points

[glad flume]

It's far less convoluted now. You want to build Courage? Slap on the courage prism. Want to build hybrid, slap on the hybrid prism.
As opposed to previoiusly where it was, "Go check the wiki to find out exactly how much Grace you're allowed to have when using X weapon and then dump everything else into Courage."

[dusty hatch]

Check if your pact virtues reset maybe? They did for me, maybe it's partly bugged

[mellow lava]

man im not sure i like this new amour setup i was at 110 points and now i can barely make 40

[unborn grail]

all my wyld pacts run the same points ( i have all three nodes maxed)
I run the same prism (moras beast)
and yet its so very different:
Wyld Oscelda - 36c - 9s - 7g
Wyld sirin - 36c - 9s - 11g
Wyld thetren - 32c - 5s - 7g

the courage pact has the worst courage? with a max courage prism?

[wet tulip]

seems like you are correct

[manic sage]

Does someone have this same issue? For about 1 month or more till now i have the required fragments in order to craft Thawtide armor set, but it doesnt appear in the Blacksmith shop, i hoped with prelude 13 this would have been fixed but it seems my only hope is to report this "bug". Does someone have this problem? Which is the correct channel where i can put this into?

[unborn grail]

guess we gotta put it in bug reports?

[wet tulip]

the one with the 24/21/11 appears with wild sirin and oscelda and the lower numbers from wyld tethren

[prime shadow]

is there a way to view how the abilities are improved by their corresponding virtues? I struggle to think of how some abilities get any improvement at all beyond their duration

[dusty hatch]

Why do I want Hybrid though instead of whatever kills stuff on screen the quickest? And why do I want to go to the process of reassigning my entire armor and maybe even weapons when switching off breakpoints with a different prism?
Idk, im not sold. Feels to me I will never use this system after assigning it once.

[wet tulip]

the problem begins since if you put a pure courage prism not all of the virtue points go to courage

unless wait

[glad flume]

You will survive having 5 spirit and grace instead of 1 spirit and grace. The game isn't hard enough to justify that level of min-maxing lol

[wet tulip]

they are i forgot pact bonus passives got nerfed xD

[glad flume]

Skills are completely tied to their virtue color, so if you want to use more than one spell in your kit, you're benefiting from hybrids.

[trim oriole]

How is that not fire damage?

[wet tulip]

i guess they didnt add fire dmg as element yet?

[smoky crater]

magick stuff = arcanic damage

[wet tulip]

odiac states voltatic on it xD

[trim oriole]

Moras hand

[smoky crater]

shhhhhhh

[wet tulip]

so there are clearly elements

[dusty hatch]

Why is none of that stuff on the list crafted when you play for a month? Odd. But you didn't screenshot your entire smith list, did you. Seems like an odd bug to have

[unreal roost]

theres ad og boss?

[brittle nacelle]

any chance you made it and forgot about it?

[knotty moon]

There is Voltaic for Odiac though.

[wet tulip]

but the new fire ones dont have it stated yet which most likely means they didnt add fire dmg yet for us to wield

[trim oriole]

in glades

[wet tulip]

i meant in weapons not pact

since odiac got pure lightning element

[manic sage]

nope, never, i screenshotted the list of fragments i have, so you can notice i have the requiered ones

[trim oriole]

but fire damage exists is my point

[manic sage]

but it doesnt seem to work

[wet tulip]

i agree just not on weapons

[smoky crater]

do you happen to just not have all the resources to craft them and they're in the lower part of the list?

[prisma cargo]

Opinions on Gildaur vs Verite joinery for melees now that they both give +25 damage?
The +4% life steal seems worth it to lose +25 perfect throw damage from verite, plus way better parry stability cost from gildaur

[wet tulip]

only fire weapon we can use comes from the dungeon by interacting with fenn xD

[trim oriole]

inside this glades to be exact

[trim oriole]

and all the melee runes

[brittle nacelle]

I can see you have the fragments but if you already crafted and forgot about it (maybe forgot to claim it too?) it doesn't appear in the crafting list anymore

[wet tulip]

thats a rune though not passive on a weapon

[manic sage]

because i never had the chance to craft them, i always thought it would be fixed in the future, but now its almost 2 months

[trim oriole]

apples and oranges tbh