gameplay-discussion

[frigid spoke]

would that even work? weird

[long grove]

they don't even drop anything, it's not worth it

[halcyon thicket]

It does ye

[long grove]

it does work but there's no benefit

[halcyon thicket]

More XP on kill

[frigid spoke]

huh 1st time I hear about it.

[halcyon thicket]

Yes there's even a bug that lets u start it at level 60

[long grove]

it doesn't give more XP just cuz it's cogah tho

[chilly locust]

It does make you spend 10 minutes running around trying to res your 1 party member who went down because you forget you have an attack button for a bit

[noble viper]

what do you mean i already slayed him

[smoky crater]

did you go to the undercity?

bannerets are only the gold armored heavy enemies, not the silver/metal color armored ones

[noble viper]

oh so its another one in the underrcity

[smoky crater]

bannerets will also have a "boss health bar"

[noble viper]

i swear a god this stupid guide is leading me to random places

[smoky crater]

you do have a map with a marked circle and a marker on top too

[long grove]

the guide will only lead you to the edge of the search circle

[dreamy thistle]

What does "surrending sparrows tale" mean? Like my guide is telling me t o go a certain path, but as I approach my goal, a warning appears with that message..?

[long grove]

if you start a tale and get far away from it. you'll be abandoning the mission

[dawn arrow]

I had my first game crash just now, in endless 🫣

[long grove]

was someone using orengall?

[dawn arrow]

we were two Orengall

[long grove]

orengall 2 is a common crasher of endless

[dreamy thistle]

oh.. and how do I know where to go "within" that tale? Follow the sword marker?

[long grove]

that explains it

[long grove]

each circle would be an area objective, the current one should be yellow. greyed out means not active now, and an x on it means you completed that stage

[dreamy thistle]

circle?

I've got like... a bird, a sword, and a helmet

[long grove]

I mean when you look at the map

[dreamy thistle]

oh wow... havent even opened my map yet, after like 3 hours of gameplay

[long grove]

[narrow condor]

do u have to kill Nimrod in this mission

[halcyon thicket]

No

[long grove]

yes you do

[halcyon thicket]

suppose i shouldve said not in that stage

[frigid spoke]

No, he'll move on after a bit but you can kill him, not mandatory

[sly escarp]

Not at this stage of the mission, you need to fight him until he leaves, he should appear twice before you reach where the poppet leads

[dreamy thistle]

so.. I died to Banneret, and now he's vanished - but I'm still in the tale and see him marked on the map. What do I do?

[sly escarp]

Is the objective "kill the banneret and their patrol"?

[dreamy thistle]

Yes! Synod's Finest

[sly escarp]

Means they went back to patrolling

[dreamy thistle]

I think my spell might've killed him while I was flying back to my corpse?

[sly escarp]

Gotta go find em on the road again

[dreamy thistle]

Ahh I see.. I'll look around thanks

[sly escarp]

Oh, wait

You might have bugged if he did die then

Hm.

Relog time maybe

[noble viper]

i swear a god this is the worst tale i ever done where the water ?

[narrow condor]

are there headshot multipliers in the game as well

[sly escarp]

Barrels behind the grate high on the wall on the left

[dreamy thistle]

You were right mate!! I did find him wandering around

[sly escarp]

For bows and thrown weapon and flyblades, yes

[sly escarp]

Hooray!

[narrow condor]

okiee

[noble viper]

no there is no barrels !!

[long grove]

break the barrels there, sometimes they get clogged

[noble viper]

there is none the only barrel infrontr of me are not breakable

[long grove]

even after you broke the planks on the wall?

well time to relog

spectral sight should be highlighting these and other such blockages too

[noble viper]

why it's always mysterious quest just give us straight froward quest this is exactly what got me quest the game on P10 bugged quest at the last stage where you don't get your rewards

[verbal sequoia]

"Draw me like one of your French Sinecure."

[dreamy thistle]

Some flute-minigames shows a strange symbol, like a bird. I have no idea what button to press when I see that, so it fails every time. Anyone else who's on controller and have experienced this?

[sly escarp]

You have to press the button for the line it's on

[dreamy thistle]

oh, ok! thanks

[narrow condor]

is the maestro bow still farmable

[halcyon thicket]

yes

[noble viper]

Which one is best for Purity ?

[narrow condor]

how do you get it?

it seems like its the only spirit bow

[noble viper]

Mad King

[narrow condor]

okie imma search it

[halcyon thicket]

maestro is from thawtide hunters only

[noble viper]

he's a boss and he has rendom draps for this weapon frags

[narrow condor]

high level boss?

[noble viper]

Not really easy to kill and you can alswys host for other players to help you

[abstract badge]

Any other event weapons worth making?

[undone minnow]

there's really only the 2

[abstract badge]

oh

what's the other one?

[undone minnow]

rostrum

short blade, drops from thawtide hunters as well

[abstract badge]

Thanks

[fast marsh]

Rostrum is unique in that it uses the dagger moveset that secondary short blades have, rather than the twin blades moveset primary short blades have

[abstract badge]

👀
I shall work on that tonight

[fast marsh]

I've got the fragments to make a couple extra just in case I want that but with different virtue scaling off blessed joineries

But with the reworks coming soon this might not be as relevant

[narrow condor]

is there a way to show enemy names

[proven kite]

I have a question. I was given a code so im able to play. Now I want to know if I wanted to purchase the Founders pack. Does that get added to my account or is that a seperate account?

[undone minnow]

it gets added to your account

assuming you log in with the account that you used the code on

[proven kite]

ok ok so then my account will have all the perks that go with it

[undone minnow]

yep!

[spare badge]

Well, it's not a split-blade like the others. It's a single short-blade.

[proven kite]

ok kewl and ty for the info and your time

[fast marsh]

Yeah, atm it's the only one of its kind that can be used as a primary rather than a secondary

[arctic cedar]

It also has an unique stealth kill sound

Unless some other sidearm dagger has the same

[narrow condor]

do you know a spot where theres a lot of thawtide hunters

the only one i found is in the gate tower

[long grove]

they're random. best spot to get em to spawn is the NE bog. run around bog,kill what you find, relog, do it again

[spare badge]

And it's noted in the description that normally it would be a secondary, if not for the people who tended the seeders and guarded the birds.

[narrow condor]

NE bog?

[long grove]

there's a bog north of creedance high, if you have name unlocked.

it's the farthest north east point on the map

[narrow condor]

deng im too far

[spare badge]

It's oaver here.

[narrow condor]

okie thankss

[long grove]

get them world trees. it's very possible to farm out in a couple days. Just persistence.

[narrow condor]

im trying to get a bow cause the damage on oscelda is so dogsht

the starter wand has very low dmg

[long grove]

that's some slander

[spare badge]

Back to talking about Rostrum, choosing a shortblade as a weapon so you can give the dead last rights as they die is kinda badass...

[frigid spoke]

everything is terrible at lvl 1

[long grove]

damage is directly tied to level

[narrow condor]

it takes like 6-7 heavies on wand to kill the bulky guys

[frigid spoke]

get it higher n you'll see more dmg.

[spare badge]

Mix with pact abilities.

[long grove]

press 1 and heavy them, the damage on break is dependant on the hit received

[spare badge]

And as you level the weapon up, make sure to invest in artes.

[narrow condor]

I see vids tho with bow 1 shotting with headshot xD

[spare badge]

But yeah, when you're starting out, all of your stuff is goinna be low level and not fully optimized. You have to obtain and build and level up everything and build for that.

[narrow condor]

oki imma just grind more ig

is it the same on warframe where exp is shared across weaps?

might have to unequip my blade

[spare badge]

Sorta.

[narrow condor]

roger

tho its really tempting to just spend money to buy the bow xD

[long grove]

75 25 active weapon and pact

[spare badge]

With p13 possibly coming next week, there's also goinna be a lot of stuff changed.

[long grove]

split more evenly in a group

[spare badge]

You forgot offhand weapon.

[narrow condor]

wait what level are the dudes here. am planning to just go there to grind and get exp

[undone minnow]

theyre mid 30's

[long grove]

30ish

[narrow condor]

okiess

[long grove]

only gets XP on squad kills. the rework made it so only weapon that was used to kill gains XP and your pact

[spare badge]

Incorrect.

[undone minnow]

no, its correct to my knowledge

unless theyve changed the split again since that patch?

[spare badge]

Nope. I've been leveling stuff. Offhand weapon gets some XP.

And I run solo.

[sly escarp]

That was how the change was phrased in patch notes. Moaners, minstrels, chests, Avakot quest steps, etc all seem to give even split across all 3 though

But kills only go to in hand wep

[undone minnow]

im fairly confident the enemies do not, other sources definitely do

[sly escarp]

And pact

[spare badge]

I've killed enemies, offhand weapon leveled up.

[undone minnow]

i dont know man

i'm just going off of what the patch notes said

[zenith knoll]

as cool as it sounds I don't think this is meant to be taken literally here

[spare badge]

And I'm going off of what I've been doing the past week.

[long grove]

i mean, you get experience at the end of the tale. i've never had a level offhand level for no reason like that. just saying that's how it does and advertises to work

[undone minnow]

I did endless solo for 4 hours and didnt get a single level to my offhand

so my experience contradicts yours

[spare badge]

Not doing tales.

I'm just running around in the area around Creedance high killing enemies. Ievery once in a while, get a notice that the weapon I'm not using has gained a level, I check, and yes, it gained a level.

[long grove]

there are other sources of experience, however kills work on a 75 25 split on weapon used on kills

I can attest to forgetting I hit to 30 on my main and never swapped to offhand, and that weapon didn't get a level the whole endless for example

[undone minnow]

thats my experience as well

[spare badge]

Maybe some sort of difference between endless and open world?

[long grove]

no

[spare badge]

🤷‍♂️

Guess it's just a mystery then. I don't have the tech knowledge to be able to specualte on what might be causing it "under the hood".

[strong oar]

Curious if anyone has any insight on this. For anyone who has gotten a Gathannan drop anytime recently. Did you fight it in Cogah? Regular spawn or T3 mission? Were you in Alcas Children or some other faction. I just can't help but feel like it's not just any Vadagar Stag and there's another requirement. I know a lot of people struggle obtaining the weapon, but man, I've been farming it non-stop for 40-60 hours over four days.

[long grove]

it's really just unfortunate rng, it's a rare drop. some are lucky and get it quick, some can take quite a bit. sorry for the struggle

for me, it was stultin. was harder to get than gath and dew.

[undone minnow]

I got one in a t3 kith of kings stag, and another from a random spawn in cogah with silent rose

I think its genuinely just rng

[strong oar]

Thanks for the info guys. That makes me hopeful. I got my Dewellion finished finally at least.

[undone minnow]

gath was my last weapon too

[strong oar]

Luckily I got one of my Gathannan parts back during preludes 9 or 10. So I only need one drop.

[long grove]

keep recruitment chat open a d be ready to join every stag advertised while farming yourself

[undone minnow]

I eventually just stopped farming it after spending like 3 weeks on it. i got the 2nd fragment 3 days later

[long grove]

yeah i got it fairly quick back in p7… didn’t know how rare it was back then

paid my dues elsewhere at least

[undone minnow]

200 runs and never got a single one from Glades LMAO

[long grove]

I don't think I did more than 10

I should flee

[undone minnow]

A friend of mine got two in a row back in p7

that really hurt to see

[long grove]

ohhhh I can imagine

been on that side too, where helping someone in a raid gets them the drop the first time after alllll my tries

[dawn arrow]

I confirm, i dont use the sidearm and its increasing in levels, slower than primary. (and vice versa when i only place sidearm)

[bronze elk]

what do i do with the extra runes ? i got 14 Forburn and I don t play sheild xD

[long grove]

opening chests, and general rewards like tales will also give XP for all

if you did an endless, you'll see it better. there's a lot of other sources of experience, and that 25 75 split only applies to kills

[long grove]

dissolve them for extra harmony to level up your runes and totems

[dawn arrow]

What happens if Pact or Weapon is maxed, does the other get 100%?

[bronze elk]

But how do i do that cuz in the forge or inventory i can t interact with them

[long grove]

negative

[long grove]

can only do it in the armory. or whatever they call where you equip weapons. right click your weapon, and select runes or totems. you can uncheck the compatibility option to dissolve runes and totems no matter the weapon type, so you don't have to check each weapon tree.

I'd probably keep at least 3 of any totem tho, but you only need one rune of each

[bronze elk]

Ty, been strugling for 40 min to find how to disolve them

[long grove]

ywyw

[undone minnow]

i was in an awful guild in tbc classic where the guild leader would just snuff me every time we got an item i needed

I got chat banned before leaving the guild

lmao

[long grove]

not saying I don't get it sometimes... but I also would never go that far

[undone minnow]

I mean i wasnt hurling slurs or anything, but it was definitely mean

[long grove]

oh I mean the slaying someone who got something you wanted after farming for a while

but yeah your reaction is completely understandable

[undone minnow]

OH i said snuff, i meant SNUB

[long grove]

OHHHH

pffffft

[amber bolt]

Heya, what would be the best place to farm Dendrit Weave?

Need quite a bit of them 🥲

[long grove]

i'd probably just farm a chest rotation for that. NE bog has quite a few of those. just run from each chest location i knew, relogged, ran looking for chests, didn't bother fighting. might take a minute as you familiarize yourself with chest locations, but it's probably the quickest active farm of it. also works for moranite/sappheline

[bronze elk]

Look for avakot

he sells 100 for 50 a piece i think

[amber bolt]

Ok managed to find Avakot and bought all that I needed XD

[bronze elk]

glad i could be of help xD

[opal raptor]

how to get invitation ?

[bronze elk]

watch stream or buy paragon pack

or maybe someone can give u one

[spare badge]

#envoy-gathering message

[opal raptor]

thanks guys

[smoky crater]

doesn't need to be paragon pack

[wraith badge]

I hope they look into changing/removing the Greatsword Hilt bash attacks.

Conceptually they are cool, but functionally they make the weapon less effective.

[opal raptor]

take a chance anyone got a code 🍀

[long grove]

only really on the sprint attacks, yeah? heavy sprint is still a slash. the parry is a two stage attack, makes sense. also looks cool.

[spare badge]

Maybe improving upon?

[wraith badge]

Spectre Strike
Sprint (Light attack)
Parry reposite

I guess it's not so much of an issue on the Parry but I feel it negatively effects me for the Spectre Strike and Sprint attack.

I always use the Sprint heavy attack instead, since it's a sweep instead.

It's also useful for the Paragon because the sprint heavy attack doesn't consume charges

[long grove]

it's definitely an option on the sprint tho, makes sense with how they sprint/hold the weapon at least.

[smoky crater]

ye

[long grove]

yeah, even the damage is different. charges are consumed on charged heavies

ig since it doesn't count as charged heavy

[wraith badge]

My issue is, is not just the lack of AoE on those hilt bash attacks, but they don't seem to have enough range and often you will use the attack and just... not connect with an enemy

[smoky crater]

majik

[acoustic stag]

I'm having a problem with DirectX 12 support in the launcher; the option isn't showing up for selection. My GTX 1080 graphics card supports DirectX 12. Has anyone else encountered this problem and found a solution?

[wraith badge]

I'll never get over seeing a DE filepath name that doesn't have /Lotus/

[smoky crater]

i mean... that's with how it is just a case of having initiated the attack too early

[abstract badge]

Do I need to craft Maestro before the event ends or as long as I have fragments I'm OK?

[long grove]

well that should be improving a bit soon hopefully. not even the only guilty party. daggers charged heavy doesn't hit if you're right on top of them, but it will if you're a bit away.

[vagrant kayak]

As long as you have the fragments you're ok

[long grove]

hit reg needs some work

[abstract badge]

Thanks

[wraith badge]

Thing is, Spectre Strikes are meant to be reactionary, not proactive attacks.

it breaks combat flow when any other weapon would have connected that

[smoky crater]

spectre strike's a bit different case than the running light attack ye

[long grove]

it's not the only one guilty of missing a specter strike, it's a wip

[wraith badge]

It has a spectre strike, it's just the hilt bash attack shared for sprint attack and parry

[long grove]

seems like spectres are built around dodging side to side, but a back step can take you out of a fews range

[wraith badge]

It's just... ineffective.

[long grove]

I don't mean missing it literally, I mean not connecting the hit

[smoky crater]

waaait a sec i gotta do some testin about the spectre strikes ._.

[wraith badge]

But yeah, ironically the Greatsword feels better for dodging when you don't have the Spectre Strike perk.

However, that perk is required to get the perk for stagger on sprint attacks

So you're giving up a good perk in exchange for having a perk that makes you perform worse

[smoky crater]

ok yeah that is very odd... when the post dodge attack is not a spectre strike, it's a swing (which fits and feels a lot better) and when the attack is a spectre strike it's a hilt smack...

why DE

[long grove]

hmm, I just use a stagger totem. I much prefer parrying over dodging in general because spectres strikes are a bit iffy and needs a lil work on actually closing that distance when you do it so it doesn't miss as much

[smoky crater]

i'd say just... switch around the attack types and it would make a lot more sense and feel better

[long grove]

cuz it should be two stage

the follow up slash is also spectre

[smoky crater]

you get the reward of a swing with a spectre strike and the "penalty" of a hilt smack without a perfect dodge

[long grove]

like how parry works, both hits are the parry

[smoky crater]

wat

crazy

[long grove]

we love damage here

[smoky crater]

wdym the follow up slash is also spectre?

it's just the 2nd attack from the regular light attack combo

[narrow condor]

whats the purpose of the animals you get

[long grove]

means they both benefit from the buff as being counted as strike. I don't really spectre, but parry works like that

[wraith badge]

They give a thing you can slot onto weapons for passive buffs

[narrow condor]

okie ill check

[smoky crater]

you get totems from them which are weapon upgrades. you can apply them to your weapons in your nightfold by right clicking on the weapon in the armoury

[narrow condor]

ohhhh

[wraith badge]

Taming them manually gives you points that can be used to enhance Runes and Totems but you can also sell dupes for the same currency

[smoky crater]

[wraith badge]

Keep an eye out for albino animals as they are more rewarding to tame.

[narrow condor]

ive captured a lot but i cant see any?

[smoky crater]

that's the runes you're looking at

[wraith badge]

Ah, each weapon type has them, (I think they should rework that personally)

[smoky crater]

the totems go on to the 3 slots on the edges

[narrow condor]

saw it hahahah tysm ❤️

[smoky crater]

just did the exact same amount of damage on the slash after the hilt strike of a spectre strike as with just doing the 2nd attack of the light combo normally ._.

[narrow condor]

also pull smite is the basic attack for wands right?

[smoky crater]

well... 1 point of damage difference

[smoky crater]

pull smite is Q+M1

used for yoinking the enemy souls that appear when you proc smite on an enemy, the torso glows red/blue/green

deals damage to the enemy, and if you have the pact upgrade unlocked, also heals you

also required to properly kill certain enemies

[narrow condor]

ohhh. i saw like blue orbs on their bellies some times

[dreamy thistle]

I'm so confused... how is this an alpha build?

[narrow condor]

oki i learned something new xD

[smoky crater]

because it is

alpha doesn't mean you can't have a good looking game

[trim oriole]

not eveb alpha really

[smoky crater]

fine. pre-alpha

[trim oriole]

pre-alpha

[dreamy thistle]

I've been gaming actively since 1999, and this is like, one of the most stunning experiences I've had - ever

[trim oriole]

even better

[dreamy thistle]

I'm baffled.. I don't even know what to say

[smoky crater]

it's just gonna keep on getting better

[narrow condor]

prob gonna be so much better xD

[smoky crater]

like P13 next week is gonna bring a lot of improvements on its own already

[narrow condor]

alrdy feels like budget skyrim alrdy xD

[dreamy thistle]

The emotions I've felt already.. like the sequence when I defeated the first boss.. I got chills, teary eyes, everything.. Sure I'm fan-boying rn, and I'm even sober

[trim oriole]

they were supposed to post the workshop 2 days and still havent, starting to doubt P13 will be next week even

[dreamy thistle]

this is better than elden ring, I'm calling it rn.. and I've got thousands of hours on the souls series

[smoky crater]

they were recording the soulshort on wednesday

usually takes a couple days before they release those

[long grove]

well i admittedly assumed because parry works like that, i don't have the perk on gs anymore

[trim oriole]

Just sayin, i've seen enough DElays in my life to not get my hopes up

[smoky crater]

i do find it kinda cool that if you do 1 light attack and then a heavy, the heavy attack will be the 2nd attack of the heavy combo and same the other way, including spectre strikes for example.
like they share the "combo counter"

[long grove]

think it just takes into account which side it's on at the start, cuz it'll also do it at like the third step. gotta love animations

[dreamy thistle]

Yeah sorry for another noob question - but the spectre strike. I'm not sure if I hit it correctly.. should I be able to tell or not? Is there some timing to it that I might not know about? All I need is to press dodge right before the attack, right? I did manage to parry without issues, but I have no idea if I ever hit a spectre strike..

If anyone could help me out I'd be forever greatful

[long grove]

wish they didn't lock you in animation after the 4th step tho

[long grove]

there will be a yellow glow, and a sound effect if you timed it right

[languid escarp]

there is a sound effect for it, like a swoosh

[long grove]

also the attack is different than a normal light or heavy

[smoky crater]

ye because 1st light attack counts as 1st heavy attack in the combos, 2nd light attack counts as 2nd heavy attack, 3rd light attack counts as 1st heavy attack, 4th light attack counts as 2nd heavy attack.
for example

4 light attacks in the light combo, 2 heavy attacks in the heavy combo. ya kno?

[long grove]

well there are some like daggers for example where the fourth still is still a first stage heavy, which is why i think there's just a check on where it's closest on

[smoky crater]

but also if you do 2 heavy attacks, you'll end up doing the 3rd attack from the light combo as the next one,
same with if you do 3 heavy attacks, you'll end up doing the 4th attack from the light combo

[dreamy thistle]

but is there some quirk to it, like press it when they start the swing animation, or should I just match it as close to impact as possible like in GoW?

[long grove]

just timing, like parries

[smoky crater]

the i-frames of dodges can also be extended by just rolling right after so you can get a preeetty long i-frame sequence going

[long grove]

i gotchu, just not that all weapon timings worked like that. ik for sure dagger doesn't, cuz i also noted how cool it works for greatsword and i usually dagger sidearm

[smoky crater]

ya

[languid escarp]

i find i need to go a bit earlier than i think i should if that helps lol

[long grove]

once you understand that window it'll be easy, though there are also totems to extend the dodge/parry window too

[smoky crater]

it would seem it does work the same for sidearm daggers

[long grove]

both third and 4th step heavy from the right

[dreamy thistle]

alright.. I'll keep trying. I'm not sure if I hit it, there's usually so much going on since most enemies are in huge packs! It feels like I manage to dodge in the last millisecond a lot of times, but it just looks like a normal dodge to me. And yes I have the "spec" 😄

Also, is there anything to the dead bodies who stays on the ground? Some dissapear, while others don't!?

[smoky crater]

after the 2nd heavy attack, you do the 3rd light attack from the light combo, same with the 3rd heavy attack and 4th light attack yes

same interaction happens if you do light attacks and interrupt the light combo with a heavy attack

[smoky crater]

the perfect dodges will make your body glow yellow and theyll have a sound effect to it
as to the dead bodies? no, nothin special

[dreamy thistle]

I don't wanna spam this channel.. but I've got so many questions lol. I think I'm doing it right now at least, but I don't feel like it does any crazy amount of damage, maybe on par with a normal heavy attack

[smoky crater]

nah go ahead and ask as much as you want

[dreamy thistle]

well, it's not suppose to like one shot enemies like a souls-riposte right?

[long grove]

there's a daily cap of 20 questions a day, resets at 7pm

[long grove]

no, a lot will die to that depending on level tho

[dreamy thistle]

it feels more like a faster attack, than something that does any crazy amount of damage

[smoky crater]

doing the post perfect dodge attack does require you to have the Spectre Strike combat art but yeah it doesn't do ridiculous damage. it'll be similar to some heavy attack or a bit less than a parry riposte yeah

[long grove]

if we're talking 30+, won't be one shotting with it at least

[smoky crater]

spectre strikes are meant to be a quick response attack and gap closer after a perfect dodge yeah, not a massive damage dealer

[long grove]

also, your damage and virtue alignment play heavily on your own answer. parries aren't gonnna 3 stage one tap someone like in dark souls tho

[dreamy thistle]

Ahh thanks, that explains it. I think I got my expectations wrong from the descriptions saying "devastating damage"

[long grove]

it's more damage than a normal hit

[smoky crater]

"devastating" is a bit much for it yeah in the description

[dreamy thistle]

yeah, it feels like i need 3-4 hits to kill my enemies regardless if I start with a spectral strike or not. But it does feel pretty nice lol!

[smoky crater]

wow mahoosive damage difference, did 106 damage to a lvl 11 heavy mace sinecure with a regular hit, then 111 with a spectre strike

[long grove]

with what tho, I've seen more than that on gs I think, like 20 points

[smoky crater]

awwwww i just barely missed the funi... if only there was a way to get rid of specifically 98 dracs

[long grove]

not saying it's huge, just haven't seen a 5 point difference

[smoky crater]

ye it was definitely a bigger damage difference to a regular sinecure

like 10-15 points

armor related shenanigans? mayhaps...

[long grove]

o, yeah it could stand to be a lil stronger. and maybe yeah. long as they give it a bit more range so it more reliably hits on a backstep, I'd be happy with it

[smoky crater]

nothing costs 500 dracs yeah?

oh wait avakot... for the first time im excited to go see that thing

[long grove]

the right purchase at avakot does yeah

oh already got it

[smoky crater]

oh would ya look at that he got brass for the next 24min

nice
i also think that was like... my first or 2nd time buying anything from him

[long grove]

now make them all 69

theres an opportunity here

[smoky crater]

not too far away yeah

[wraith badge]

Really!? In the middle of the Cogah run?!

[smoky crater]

can't say i've had that happen before 👀

[wraith badge]

Mentally I panicked thinking "Oh my god I'm dead."

I didn't even know you could ESC out of it until I tried then

[long grove]

I've had it before. it was mad annoying. this deer wouldn't run away and kept running between me and them

against this boss too pff

[molten geyser]

Can someone help me? I'm stuck here and the doors won't open. There are two, and neither of them will open.

[smoky crater]

ain't no way

[smoky crater]

if neither of the doors are still opening, try relogging.

it's a "loading screen" of sorts

shouldn't take more than a couple seconds usually tho

[long grove]

..........WHAAAAAAT

[dreamy thistle]

why does the wardag stag boss have a gray healthbar? what does that mean?

[molten geyser]

ok, thank you very much

[smoky crater]

means your light attack damage is too low to get thru the enemys armor.
heavy attacks in 95% of cases will still go thru tho

[dreamy thistle]

so.. what should I do?

[smoky crater]

mmmm do heavy attacks?

[dreamy thistle]

oh so some enemies just has this, there's no way around it?

[smoky crater]

no it happens when the enemys armor is "too high" for your current weapon

if your weapon has a higher light attack damage number, the healthbar won't be grey

[dreamy thistle]

oh.. so I'm supposed to like grind stuff before I proceed with the "main" story? How do I "upgrade" my weapon tho? I've been playing like 5 hours or more but I'm level 1 with the starter weap

[smoky crater]

your account level might be level 1 yeah.
your pact and weapon will be higher than that tho

the weapons rank you can see in your inventory even

ranking it up will increase the damage of it

-# and yes in this case level = rank

[dreamy thistle]

ok so.. best way to be like roaming the open world, finding enemy packs and killing them to level it up? I was hoping I'd get the chance to craft something else before I do that 😄

[smoky crater]

yeeeah pretty much. you should get guided to a fable tho that will unlock crafting if you haven't done it yet

but also crafting timers exist

[dreamy thistle]

yeah I have unlocked crafting, but I have no "blueprints" for weapons within my "affinity"

[smoky crater]

ah yeah

hmm

[dreamy thistle]

but still, is it kind of like a sign for me to slow down my main story progression and explore a bit more? or should I just push through?

[smoky crater]

i mean you can get the 2 other starting weapons and possibly a sidearm aswell from your faction

but ye one of the story fables is a teeny bit of a damage and survivability check so not exactly suggested to rush thru all of it

[dreamy thistle]

ah ok, so most people had this fight with him on a gray hp bar? just wanna make sure i didn't do anything wrong lol

[smoky crater]

which weapon are you using?

[dreamy thistle]

the starter spirit weapon

like a green wand/staff

[long grove]

that means your damage is low for the enemy, usually only happens from an underleveled weapon. doesn't mean you're not hurting it at all tho, use heavy attacks

[smoky crater]

ok so Gwylen
you should be able to just heavy attack the Stag, that should deal enough

as in deal an acceptable amount of damage instead 1 point

[dreamy thistle]

but my attunement is spirit, would it make sense to craft a grace sidearm? its the only one I can make rn

[smoky crater]

that doesn't matter

you can use any weapon, with any pact

[dreamy thistle]

yeah but won't it deal less damage? what does the attunement even do then?

[long grove]

it just means you won't be doing the most damage with it right now, damage is tied to level and virtue

still usable, long as it's leveled

[smoky crater]

the attunement stuff isn't necessary unless the weapon has a "Attunement requirement" of 10 or 20 points

[dreamy thistle]

well my gaming-sense is telling me to wait until I can craft another spirit attuned weapon 😄

[smoky crater]

but do keep in mind you can also freely redistribute the virtue points from one virtue to another

[long grove]

if you wanna level a bit, I suggest watching recruiting chat for endless runs, they say like e for endless if you say e, they'll invite you. it's the best leveling right now, if that's what you wanna do

[halcyon marsh]

Can be a grey guy and totally kill it according to totems and rune

[smoky crater]

with Oscelda for example, it's perfectly fine to throw all your points into grace or courage even tho spirit has the highest base virtue point count

if you're chasing weapon damage*

[dreamy thistle]

i see! and that small white bar under the health, is that like a stagger bar, sekiro style?

[smoky crater]

ye

when it fills up, you get knocked over

"Stability Defence" will reduce the amount it'll fill up by from getting hit, or blocking an attack

[dreamy thistle]

yeah because this boss also has that, but it just replenishes too fast for me to fill it up

[smoky crater]

yeh

all enemies got the stagger bar aswell ye

[long grove]

it gets easier. helps to keep up little hits to maintain it

since I think you're using oscelda, 3 does some great stagger damage

[naive comet]

I hope the crafting system loses the wait time, it really doesn't fit the game imo

[smoky crater]

not gonna happen

[hexed spoke]

not gonna be removed, not in this life time

[smoky crater]

game's free to play, completely.
crafting timers are an incredibly fair way to monetize, even if not a very effective way to make money.
and if you wanna go to specifics... crafthing a thing doesn't happen instantly, it does take hours.

[unborn grail]

Pay to skip is a way less predatory monitisation, which DE prefers

[dreamy thistle]

What am I supposed to do with this bonfire?

I'm like hard-stuck on this mission.. bugged?

[long grove]

nothing, that mission is literally kill all the sinecure in the dungeon

[dreamy thistle]

sinecure? what is that?

I killed the demon-elk thing lol

[long grove]

the normal armored enemies

[dreamy thistle]

the "adds" that were close to the boss in that swamp?

I just ignored those lol!

the bird-guide keeps leading me back to that bonfire..

[long grove]

might just be the center of the map, but that mission description on the left is telling the most. i know it well, but yeah y ou gotta kill em all

[dreamy thistle]

so the boss was optional? lol that's confusing.. I've been roaming around here looking for more armored slugs for 10 min+ at this point

maybe a re-log would fix it

[long grove]

yeah, unless a tales is saying you have to kill a boss, you could run right through a dungeon and exit without killing something

[long grove]

prolly, but it means the whole dungeon. might be some pathways you haven't taken yet

[velvet veldt]

you can use the bird to find your tales goal in a dungeon

[dreamy thistle]

well it's an open area with no sense of direction, and the map isnt explored here yet, so pretty hard to know where to go

yeah the bird takes me back the the bonfire

[long grove]

the goal is the entire dungeon here, it just brings you to the near center afaik

[velvet veldt]

is that a new one? Never seen that before

[long grove]

best to backtrack and check each possible exit a room has. but it's alright to relog and start that part over too if that's easier

[long grove]

it's a seldom one true... for good reason. it takes way too damn long. this is why i prefer non-dungeon tales.

[long grove]

you know we do

[dreamy thistle]

hmm.. now I found this? Can't interact with this either?

[long grove]

prolly just a prop

[dreamy thistle]

its where my guide now leads me instead lol! this is confusing as fk

[long grove]

open your map

[dreamy thistle]

it triggered a voice line

the map is blank bro

[velvet veldt]

Wow. I maxed all the lines and got all the things and never saw that one. I am crazy lucky.

[long grove]

oh my bad

it's brewer of hues stage, i just looked at free this land from the sinecure and assumed you were doing the sparrow tales version

[long grove]

look for a caged animal nearby i believe where you are

if you freed it already, follow it

[long grove]

verryyy lucky. if you farm NE, it's a very rare dungeon objective there

[dreamy thistle]

yeah it was like a beaver leading me here, and when I got here I got a voice line saying "poppy, come here". Then I'm stuck again

[long grove]

follow the animal, use spectral sight

the q key

[dreamy thistle]

i can record my gameplay since you dont seem to believe me

trust me I spam that button all the time 😄

[long grove]

hm? do you mean literally stuck? use /unstuck

i thought you meant that metaphorically

[dreamy thistle]

yeah not stuck-stuck, but the spectral sight leads me to this "prop".. so there's no direction for me to go.. it leads to a dead end

[velvet veldt]

yeah that is how I did it. Through NE until cap, then repeat next time I got on.

[long grove]

spectral sight doesn't "lead" anywhere, just highlights things. relog again and use it to highlight and follow the animal

[long grove]

another reason why we love it. trust me if it had more dungeon runs, we'd be farming elsewhere just for speeds sake

last time i was like well i'll just do it this one time, it's been a while and it sucked cuz it took a while pfft

[visual radish]

there has to be a button to interact with it yeah

[visual radish]

sometimes you just gotta try approaching it from a different angle but it should be interactable

[long grove]

it wasn't unwatchable, it was fine

[long grove]

did you kill all the sinecure? cuz you shouldn't be there at this step

prolly why the statue won't activate, it doesn't recognize that you're at this step

https://wiki.avakot.org/Brewer_of_Hues

@dreamy thistle

[visual radish]

i mean they did say they chased a beaver so either they cant tell animals apart or they really chased a totally unrelated animal

[long grove]

the video did help cuz i saw you were at her door, but still at a previous stage in the fable

[dreamy thistle]

Here's a better recoding.. sorry for the HDR making it unwatchable for some reason

[long grove]

i already saw it, it was fine. but your bird shouldn't be leading you here

you should've killed all the guys around the tower

[spare badge]

Try disableing fog?

[dreamy thistle]

I did that before I killed the stag tho! I'll backtrack again I guess

[velvet veldt]

is that the cogah quest?

[long grove]

that door won't open until the stage is at "Pursue the poppet"

no, it's verminia's quest

[spare badge]

No.

[dreamy thistle]

fog? on my monitor the game looks incredible.. its just that recoding HDR gameplay looks strange on a SDR output

[velvet veldt]

Ah gotcha. Could not remember which one from her it was

[long grove]

i got hdr, and yeah it doesn't translate well to non-hdr

[velvet veldt]

Invite someone in there with you and run around till it's all dead

[spare badge]

It's the one to obtain her.

[long grove]

cuz yeah you kinda skipped a step, haxborn.

[spare badge]

No. That fable breaks extra-hard when done with multiplayer.

[long grove]

i think it already did cuz his sparrow is leading him to a stage above his quest description

[spare badge]

Try relogging and cashe optimizing. That often works ot reset stuck fables.

[long grove]

not really stuck, just gotta find that tower and kill em

[spare badge]

Well, verminia's is known that if yo skip a step, it tends to become stuck.

[dreamy thistle]

wow... i did relog and this time it spawned a freaking boss named nimrog!!!!

[long grove]

pffft

should be good now

[dreamy thistle]

he one shot me, and now he's vanished lmao

[long grove]

dw bout that part pff

[dreamy thistle]

so I werent supposed to defeat him?

[visual radish]

no

[long grove]

well it's possible, but unlikely the first time

[visual radish]

well he asked supposed not possible lol
the quest just wants you to run along

[long grove]

pfft okay

[dreamy thistle]

yeah he did appear again, and I took him down to like 30%, then he ran away, so I guess I'm on the right path again 😄

[bronze elk]

can u spawn circada multiple times in a day using different talismans ?

[languid escarp]

now that is a wide screen

[bronze elk]

(same day and night)

[long grove]

no, once a night

[bronze elk]

so i need 3 days to get the talisman?

[long grove]

yep yep yep

[dreamy thistle]

yeah now it took me to that same place, which triggered a flute minigame! finally yaay!!

MOM GET THE CAMERA

[verbal edge]

guys, when i kill MK in cogah mode, he never spawn`s

i have to leave cogah and go again?

[long grove]

he's kinda bugged in cogah, might need a relog. vella also drops treefell though, and they are on a 30 minute timer

[verbal edge]

but vella is in dg?

i have to do all dg

[long grove]

in a dungeon yeah

you can just run by everything and fight what's just before the boss, a lot of the times there's enough space that nothing chases you there anyway too

[verbal edge]

i will do that tks

[noble viper]

does this only drops from the hard red mode or it can also drop in the normal mode ?

[long grove]

cogah only, hard mode

[noble viper]

oh i see thank you

[dreamy thistle]

if I craft a weapon with courage attunement, and re-allocate my virtues to courage, will it affect my magick damage in a negative way? or does virtue only affect my weapon damage?

[trim oriole]

If by magic damage you mean pact abilites, it will effect damage depending on the pact, by giving you more, as courage scales the damage of abilites when applicable

[dreamy thistle]

ah ok, so the "meta" is basically - always reallocate your virtues according to the weapon you currently want to use, as well as what your pact scales with if applicable? I can't see any attunement on my current pact so I guess it doesnt matter for this one

I'm using the Oscalda, and I can't see anything on there that signals that any attunement would affect those magicks

oh nvm - I just found the pact-upgrade menu.. forget what I just asked

[trim oriole]

Oscelda is a spirit attuned pact, but pact attunement hardly matters currently, all it means is you start with some extra base points in the attuned virtue

You are correct in saying you want to allocate your virtues based on your weapon rather than pact if its a choice you have to make

When it comes to pact abilites, where applicable, Courage scales damage, Spirit scales duration and Grace scales range. So not speccing spirit in a spirit pact doesn't really matter too much

Bare in mind this will all change next week when virtues get reworked

[dreamy thistle]

yeah once I saw the upgrade menu I understood a bit more how it's designed, since I can upgrade my pact to increase both grace and courage! I think I might try some courage weapons tomorrow once my crafting is done!!

Oh.. like a total re-work, or just general adjustments/changes?

[trim oriole]

Pretty much total, near enough the only thing that will be the same is there being 3 virtues called Courage, Spirit and Grace, basically everything else about how and what they scale as well as weapon, ability and armour scaling will change

[velvet veldt]

Yeah I can't bring myself to sign on until the update comes.

[wraith badge]

I think I'm still high.
Woke up from the Cogah and there's a floating rabbit in my tent.

bnuy

Leaked Omen Beast: Giant Rabbit

[velvet veldt]

if no kill why food shaped

[wise elm]

true the ode are very food shaped, let us cook the ode and make buffs from them

[mild jasper]

Hey everyone, how's it going?

I'm new here, and I can't wait to get a key. Will there be a drop on Twitch on Tuesday?

I registered on the website on Wednesday; I think it takes a while to register online.

Thanks.

[barren scroll]

**How do I get access to Soulframe? **

• Sign up: Soulframe.com and be invited via the Wednesday giveaway (2k codes every week).
• Purchase a Founder's Pack, which will give you spare codes for your friends.
• Watch a live dev stream or Envoy Hour via Twitch.

On occasion, Envoys will share codes in ⁠the channels here, but we ask that you do not beg.
Attention: Selling/buying of codes is a violation of Soulframe's Terms of Service. Do not engage with third-party trades.

Update/Reminder: The next Dev stream is on: <t:1770757200:f> and <t:1771966800:f>. #soulframe-news message.

[still owl]

i just want an option to hid the claws on the orengall pact, theyre super upgly to me for some reason

[barren scroll]

So yes you will be able to get a key from the twitch stream, make sure you link your spulframe account to your twitch account.

And Wednesday they release 2000 keys randomly at 2PM ET every week however it’s completely random and not guaranteed.

[mild jasper]

Thx Bro. I did that. Now I'm wait for Dev stream.

[humble delta]

What's the little badge thing sinecure drop in the undercity do?

this thing

[keen river]

you can soul-steal it, but i'm not sure if it really does anything

[knotty lava]

It's a holdover from when you had to soul-steal to recharge your abilities; not sure it does anything now beyond give some small amount of xp

[keen river]

oh god i remember that. dark times

[knotty lava]

it certainly made you engage in combat differently, that's for sure

wouldn't mind that being like a challenge dungeon/mode though

[keen river]

cogah giving you massively increased cooldown time has brought back some of that feeling for me, without the frustration of your ability use being essentially tied to rng lol

[knotty lava]

yeah, if your class didn't have a good/useful Red ability, you were fairly hosed during most Dermak runs - lots of torches to refuel from, not so much everything else

yeah, Cogah's pretty close

[keen river]

yeah i remember lots of times when i was thinking, "man i would love to use my spirit/grace ability but i haven't seen a green/blue flow in the last 20 minutes"

[knotty lava]

many were the time when you'd get maybe 1 or 2 at most of those in an entire dungeon

[long grove]

think it's meant to make you play towards mechanics and preparation, otherwise an oscelda will just petrify things over and over. staggering your abilities instead of bursting em all out at once, it's a lil different like that and i like it

[keen river]

and that would have been fine minus the rng element, tbh

(which is why i really like cogah for the increased cd)

[knotty lava]

of course, enemies were... pretty exploitable back then. Always just one enemy attacking at a time, so you could bait them into attacks->parry->dispatch accordingly. Now things tend to get a bit more hectic

[long grove]

ah missed the first bit. yeaahhh, i don't miss the random arcanics

[wraith badge]

I know Soulframe is about protecting, reclaiming and helping Nature but so help me Lua, every time one of these dogs doesn't leave the area properly and turns aggro and immortal I want to give them the Warframe treatment.

LOOK AT THIS! I'M BEING ATTACKED BY A DOG THAT WAS 90% DESPAWNED AND LOOKS NEARLY ENTIRELY INVISIBLE!

Would make for a cool enemy not gonna lie, if it wasn't immortal.

[fallen orchid]

How can we tell which parts of the triune talisman we've completed, if we dont remember which we';ve done?

[long grove]

you can still proc smite on dog, which seems to work in getting rid of it for right now

[wraith badge]

I already did a smite so I don't know if it works twice

but thanks for the tip

[fallow arch]

predadog

[wraith badge]

I will be honest, I've never been attacked in a game before by a half-despawned NPC

[ionic lintel]

when will the new updates be added tthat they had talked about in there last live stream?

[wraith badge]

Presumably next week, DE doesn't work on Saturdays/Sundays unless an emergency comes up that needs an immediate fix.

[ionic lintel]

okay thank you for the info.

[exotic tide]

Did Bromius eat a giga nerf recently?
I've been watching videos to catch up on stuff I've missed since Preludes 9, and I saw a few videos about how good Bromius was
I tried out the exact same setup, but when I do it, I can't even take off half the HP of extremely low-level enemies

against anything higher than lv 6, Bromius's 3 + 1 combo with 40 Courage barely tickles enemies, and doesn't even stagger them

I can understand nerfing a two-ability nuke, but did Ode Tempest and Bromius need to be nerfed into "this Pact does literally nothing" territory?

[modest crater]

What's 'imp-share'

[modest crater]

Um, im stuck.

[dawn arrow]

How do you reach 40 points in a virtue, is it buff assisted?

[modest crater]

Castellian huthra cant get me here tho?

Found a point in the corner it let me jump out of nvm

[heady pilot]

can someone remind me what these are?

[languid escarp]

motes, grab it with pull smite, soul mode + light attack

they reveal the location names

[heady pilot]

great, thanks!

[modest pasture]

So when a weapon shows attunement "2 blue starburst" for example. Does that mean it's damage is going to scale with grace? Or is this something I should reconsider after preludes 13?

Trying to figure out which weapon set I am gonna fall into, I went bow first. Because I knew when I bring my friends in they only know "bonk", but now am feeling like I dont like either the moveset of the bow or maybe its because I need to get a different pact.

[dawn arrow]

Yeah currently every point in grace will increase its damage, P13 will change things quite a bit and no full details yet.

[modest pasture]

Alright, then I am just not feeling it. I usually prefer greatsword, or a board, beefy tank/dps. So just gonna have to stick this until I get new weapons and pact to switch, nbd.

[lucid ice]

Does anyone know how to fix this bug? It's happened to me about four times while making the COGA, and I have to keep quitting because of it.

I can't stand having to pay off these payments anymore, just to fix things, and I'm losing my progress on the project.

[iron compass]

i was once attacked by an enourmous dog that was bigger in size than the corrupted stag boss and i thought it was a boss fight but after defeeating it easily it turned norma and ran like the ohters

[rough pawn]

You doing it with the 90+ armor as well?

[frosty nebula]

Are you slowed aswell? Friend of mine had this too when we ran cogah but it passed away when we began fighting the next boss. Dk if that was the fix though

[wet rivet]

Yes, this method still works for me too, so if you encounter this error, you need to move on to the next boss, and everything will be fine.

Sometimes we see this purple screen when we start a boss fight and leave the battle zone during combat. If the boss is killed in this zone, the screen with this bug may remain like this until the next battle, until the system recognizes that you are in the appropriate zone for the next battle.

[frosty nebula]

Okay good to know it wasnt per chance thank you 👍
Was the same for my friend too like you described it

[blazing quarry]

i want buy game , but i don't know what pack i buy , can you help me ?

[wet rivet]

I love Paragon pack, if you will have this pack, you will be able to increase your rank by 1 point more than other players, allowing you to spend one more point in the skill tree because the pack contains many weapons for leveling up and pacts that give experience to your account rank. Therefore, if you have the financial means to purchase it and want to support the game, I would recommend the Paragon pack.

[barren scroll]

In my experience I would buy wyld tethren, it’s by far imo the strongest one that I have played.

Sirin is okayish, so is ocelda as it has a heal and focused more around the mage kind of feel. Good do beginners.

But personally tethren you really can’t go wrong with it, especially as it’s most likely still going to be meta next preludes with the virtue re work.

[blazing quarry]

yes but tethren sirin or oscelda , i see oscelda it's good but don't know

[barren scroll]

Get tethren if you had to choose one, you won’t regret it.

[narrow condor]

so i found a campsite where there are 8-9 enemies and almost a guarantueed caged animal and im just logging on and off, is this a good farming strat for totems or there are more areas that yield more

[cinder adder]

whats the best long blade for courage?

[halcyon thicket]

Marrow's bane

[cinder adder]

oh ok thank you

[frigid agate]

I wish we had more clean long blades like Vetch/Wulder.

[eager light]

best pacts with bow? except sirin ofc

[frigid agate]

I read Tethren is excellent with a bow, with Fellust being kinda OP.

[eager light]

can someone help me farm skilter sidearm and hurlwind rune?

[frosty nebula]

For me its Oscelda with Blitzel and Flyblades + Alcas Breath Rune and most virtue points into courage. The dmg with the rune active while enemies are bestoned is really good at least in normal mode havent played it in cogah yet.

[rancid sky]

just out of curiosity anyone know if theres a known bug with the sidearms compendium showering an extra skilter, odiac and vertigris?

[wraith badge]

That one is normal. You find them in places with corruption.

[verbal galleon]

Hi everyone, how to get out a dungeon i went i am beginner but how to escape ? the bird direction send me further mobs are lvl 12 and am 3

[keen river]

if you can't make it to the normal exit, you can just turn around and leave through the entrance

[verbal galleon]

i died and i saw i was playing the bird but couldnt find a way, then my character ressurect at a tomb grave thing

[keen river]

yes, that's normal

[narrow condor]

up to how many levels can a totem be upgraded

[hollow wyvern]

Game design question: why is there a limited amount of time for your sparrow to find your body? I haven't figured out what mechanical purpose that serves so I'm just curious.

I haven't had trouble getting to my body in time, but it doesn't really seem to add anything and I can see it being frustrating for a new player to be suddenly ripped back to the respawn point while flying to their body (doesn't seem to be any range or timer indicators either)

I guess it makes sure you don't just sit in bird form and fly around forever

[keen river]

up to level 3, where it will have 3 leaves / flowers around its ring

[narrow condor]

thanks! are all the animals I get the same? or there are levels to it as well. I see a number on the upper right

[keen river]

i think this is just in lieu of any actual consequence to dying. we don't lose anything by dying (unless you're in cogah, in which case it just kicks you out and you need to drink a new cogah potion to re-enter), and so the only real punishment is that if you don't find your body in time, you lose the time it takes to get back to where you were

[narrow condor]

the number 6

[keen river]

there are tiers, the color of the leaves / ring around the animal tells you roughly how strong it is for that particular weapon, but it's important to note that you won't find the same totem in different tiers within the same weapon. the number in the top-right doesn't mean anything in regards to power.

[narrow condor]

okie thanks

[vague fossil]

we reckon eventually there will be some kind of consequence though? Maybe kicked back to a faction hub or something? Or maybe only in dungeons/kicked back to the entrance if you die too many times or something? I don't hate that there isn't really a consequence for dying. The convinience of not having to run back to your spot, even in sparrow form, is enough fo a motivator to play well and not die for me

maybe boss health resets unless you're in a co op instance or something?

[cunning flicker]

Hi people, how can I get a key?

[finite stone]

The top-right is just the index number for the animal type. It's explained in full for you on the https://wiki.avakot.org/Totems page:

[keen river]

I'm not sure. the game isn't supposed to be particularly punishing, so they may be avoiding death penalties for that reason

[simple oyster]

Is there a daily limit for faction points?

This game tells us barely anything

it is way too cryptic

[smoky crater]

16k is the daily cap atm

[smoky crater]

It wont stay as "no consequences whatsoever" no

[unborn grail]

guys, is there a good place to farm the stultin?

wiki says it drops from normal and armored mockeries

any place thats a nice hotspot where sirin can yoink a lot of souls?

[still violet]

I'd say primarily go with the one you like the cosmetics of the most tbh, and my suggestion would be grabbing a different pact than the one that you wanna start with, so that you can start with 2 pacts and then be like me and fall in love with your starting pact so you buy their founder pack then decide that you already bought 2 might as well grab paragon

[modest crater]

Underwater combat in preludes 13?

[narrow condor]

u can place a totem on another weapon right? without unequipping it

[still violet]

Long as it's the correct weapon type, ye

[narrow condor]

so at best i should just save 3 copies of a totem, and then free the rest

[still violet]

If you wanna use the same totem in different slots yeah, tbh I never considered that lol

[narrow condor]

okie thanks!!

[verbal edge]

hey, where can i get gathanan

[peak parrot]

best way to find motes? (googley eyed black blobs in smoke)

[finite stone]

From https://wiki.avakot.org/Gathannan:

[narrow condor]

am kinda confused, the nettle and the royal tines are both short blades but i cant equip royal tines as sidearm?

[keen river]

most dual-shortblades are primaries, most single-shortblades are sidearms

in p13 we're getting a dual-shortblade sidearm, and the currently active thawtide event drops a single-shortblade primary

[narrow condor]

okie

[cinder adder]

how do i find vetch fragments?

[vagrant kayak]

Enclave Tales can drop it as a reward, and the spider bosses also drop it

T1 and T2 Tales specifically

[cinder adder]

ok thanks

[lethal tundra]

I think that there might be glitches in Faction quest.

Twice the element requires for their completion, seemed to be missing. 1st a document then 2nd an entire enemy encounter?

[smoky crater]

there are certain spots where that might happen yeah

[somber haven]

I was reading wiki and realized that I opened a crypt days ago without going in, will it keep staying opened?

[dawn arrow]

Are dungeon tales exclusive to each enclave? With Alca's children its always undercity, i am swimming with orange/purple joineries but 0 blue and green

[somber haven]

Or did I waste a key

[finite stone]

Great question, I don't think anyone's ever tested how long a crypt entrance stays open if you don't go in! I'd guess it probably resets after relog or reload of the world (i.e. doing a dungeon)

But don't worry about having wasted a key, there are near infinite keys, they drop from enemies all over the place

[somber haven]

Yeah I have a lot in my inventory, but still

[craggy wraith]

fr i got like 200 crypt keys or smth

[smoky crater]

would make the most sense for it to close after you reload the world via in/out of a dungeon or relog/restart yeah

[lethal tundra]

@dawn arrow
According to the green are supposed to be in the Glade of Andurin.

I've only found 1.

[smoky crater]

not exclusive no

[vague fossil]

Is there anything to note that would contribute to me not getting one or two shot? I haven't understood the armor and stats too well since it's getting reworked soon anyways. (seemed to do okay with Orengall spirit or courage build. Seem to be getting utterly clapped with the same armor on Garren Rood)

[smoky crater]

armor's not really getting reworked, it's just getting some "optional" buffs

[vague fossil]

yeah but like. how stagger works, we're getting new animations for some weapons, what armor you can effectively used based on stats etc. IDK I watched the dev stream and vaugely understood

[smoky crater]

suggested to use totems on your weapons tho that also increase your defence stats

[vague fossil]

I do have one that increases magic defence. is it maybe that I'm lacking in physical defence? Find that hard to believe though because it's my highest stat

I have a mix of the thawtide and reagent set for armor

[sly escarp]

Part of it as well can be stagger issues

[smoky crater]

all armor is gonna work just as well post P13 as it does now, it's just that you can get some extra stat buffs from having proper virtue distribution

[vague fossil]

I don't feel like I'm getting staggered so much as, get hit twice by a melee enemy and boom I'm a bird sitting ona waystone

[sly escarp]

If you get staggered repeatedly you can get stunlocked and be unable to avoid damage, which is part of the p13 changes

What level enemies are they?

[smoky crater]

what level enemies are you going up against and what is your total armor count?

[vague fossil]

lemme double check the armor value. but I'm struggling with 25+ enemies. I was fine against the thawtide enemies getting to 30+ when farming for the thawtide gear though

[sly escarp]

Oh! Also, are you making sure to assign your Virtues? Each point assigned gives some health atm.

[vague fossil]

(I did use a lot of hit and run stealth with Sirin/Orengal but still)

[vague fossil]

yeah mine are all assigned

[sly escarp]

Ah, level 30 enemies are a bit on the higher end, and you're only using about mid tier armour.

[vague fossil]

idk maybe I'm just not dodging enough? it seems strange cos it feels like... I could get clapped before but at least I'd be able to go 'yeah okay I shoudl have dodged' but now I'm like... excuse me?

[smoky crater]

i mean you're not exactly meant to be tanking every hit yeah

[vague fossil]

I'd think I could afford to whiff a dodge once tho T_T

I'm at 43 armor

[frigid agate]

Stagger is all over the place atm, hopefully it gets changed for the better in P13.

[smoky crater]

ah ok, so closer to the lower end then

totems can help a lot with armor amount

[vague fossil]

Regeant headpeice and legs, thawtide curious. it's 15/19/9. Didn't invest in stagger cos usually I'm able to dodge

and I do have a slightly upgraded magick armor on my greatsword

okay I was wrong it's not upgraded. The Sodden +8 magick armor is all

[sly escarp]

What's your life total under your Virtues?

[vague fossil]

270

(account level 8, all points assigned, one point in everbound)

[smoky crater]

when going against lvl 25+ you should aim to have above 60-70 armor atleast if you're not gonna be dodging absolutely every single hit

[vague fossil]

FR? damn okay I'm WAY under

[sly escarp]

Okay, so you're relatively low Envoy rank overall, and don't have solid totem setup and mid tier armour, while fighting fairly high level enemies...we may have found the issue.

[smoky crater]

yep

[vague fossil]

well, I'm working on collecting more stuff. I figured I'd have more trouble with bosses than average world enemies alas

I'm trying to get better armor I just. don't. yet xD

farming for fragments for now

thank god there's no slot cap on armor at least

[sly escarp]

Consider farming Mendicant King for his armour if you can, it's high tier and fairly well balanced statswise.

[vague fossil]

yeah I can handle him well enough. most bosses, weirdly enough, I can handle myself. I've gotten the basic fire run for most weapons I like and stuff.

[sly escarp]

Also, charm EVERY animal you find if you can.

Build a solid bank of Totems and Harmony, you'll really want those defense slot stats soon-ish too.

[vague fossil]

yeah I have been haha. I spent a lot of the currency on leveling up a smite chance totem for a weapon I don't use anymore so RIP but new players gonna do new player things

do any of the weapon runes give an extra defence totem slot?

[dawn arrow]

For some reason, with a bow rank 17 i am doing 1000+ damage headshot with a single arrow to Thrice, tried Vella, i only do 180

[vague fossil]

I'm not married to the garren rood pact I just, finished farming it recently and am trying it out

[sly escarp]

Some. The Archstorm rune/lightning Flyblades run do, and a few of the Cogah runes

[frigid agate]

What’s a good armour set to go after Tempest?

[smoky crater]

mockeries have wild headshot multipliers for whatever reason yeah

[frigid agate]

I should probably wait until P13 though with all the armour changes.

[vague fossil]

not ready for cogah yet, but I'll keep in mind

[sly escarp]

Tempest is a mid tier armour set, are you looking for a lateral shift or an upgrade?

[vague fossil]

I'm also wondering how armors will work but considering my account level is still low I imagine it's worth just farming everything for the xp anyway

[finite stone]

worth still farming them if you want to collect all the fashion!

[finite stone]

armour doesn't provide mastery, that's weapons and pacts - but yeah I'd recommend armour for fashion as above haha

[smoky crater]

the changes to armor aren't gonna be crazy like that so i wouldn't say there's any need to wait for P13

[frigid agate]

Better stagger resistance mainly from grenades, I usually just parry/dodge everything.

[sly escarp]

Mockery armour from the Thrice Bound Impedh

Some of the best Stagger Resist in the game.

[vague fossil]

oh no I meant weapons. Cos I have built weapons I don't really wanna use. so imma grind them for mastery and sell them to free up the slots

[sly escarp]

Also consider Deer defense totems

[frigid agate]

Gotcha, Thanks for the tip.

[sly escarp]

Do note that even if you minmax stagger resist however, it won't reduce the stagger animation times in most cases

It's getting a rework soon because it was very often overriden

What it will do will make it harder to knock you prone

[frigid agate]

That’s good to hear, getting knocked down from being punched by a Thawtide Hunter Archer albeit a lv50 one is kinda silly.

[dawn arrow]

oh my, just when i complained about it, just got my glades as a faction tale at rank 4 lol

[smoky crater]

[dawn arrow]

and the first chest gave me polished quicksilver joinery, whats happening. Maybe i should ocmplain alot here

[narrow condor]

what do u do here

[lethal tundra]

After completing Gurren Rood - Torment Stag.

I realized something? Despite this game being open world, there is a definite order in which the quest are meant to be played.

Because I wondered around hunting Runes and Totems. I had out leveled the quests

@narrow condor play the music.

[narrow condor]

what key to press for this

[lethal tundra]

That i don't know.

Even on controller there isn't an a button for the symbols

[vague fossil]

How does the mockery set compare to the mendicant set?

[tacit leaf]

Im thinking of purchasing a founder pack. Whats the difference between oscelda and wyld oscelda??

[dawn arrow]

Wyld Has 9 spirit points while normal has 5 points. They share the same skill tree, so if you level both to max you get 30 + 30 (total 60 points) for oscelda skill tree

[tacit leaf]

So prime Warframe

Ty!

[cinder adder]

are there specific tales to get vetch fragments or something i couldnt get any

[full hearth]

Tier 1 or 2, any faction.

https://wiki.avakot.org/Vetch

[cinder adder]

i am so unlucky then been farming those for hours

thannk you for the help though

[full hearth]

Well, you can try the other listed sources too

Not sure if they're any better though

[cinder adder]

also killed one of those bosses but it didnt drop it either. i guess ill be farming the tales

[verbal sequoia]

Probably not a spoiler, but spoilering it just to be safe. Topic: baffled by a puzzle in the Crypts.

||So finally delving into the crypts, and I've been bumbling around these rooms trying to figure out this puzzle. Using the abilities of the same color does nothing, there's a pressure pad that seems to do nothing, and one that I'm clearly supposed to push a statue onto but I can't move the statue. Anyone know how this puzzle works?||

[autumn blaze]

Всем привет

[narrow condor]

is this built alrdy

or ill still have to build it

[smoky crater]

there sort of is. a couple can be played out of order. but for some, there are prerequisites yes

[knotty moon]

Have to build it, the only way you get a Pact without building it is by buying with Arcs. (other than the starter one ofc)

[chilly locust]

You have to use spirit sight to find trees with claws in them, I think there's three

Then you see the notes

[narrow condor]

i found them alrdy hehe thank you!

[zenith knoll]

these are all separate puzzles actually

for the statue-pushing one: ||have an enemy stand in front of the statue long enough for it to slide all the way across the room||
for the color murals: ||kill the circade in front of each of them (this will take multiple runs)||

the latter is part of a bigger puzzle

[verbal sequoia]

Ohhh, so I gotta do multiple runs and lure the boss into that room

[smoky crater]

for the murals yes

[narrow condor]

is it possible to change genders? the wyld oscelda male looks like a grown man wearing kid's tshirt

[zenith knoll]

you look like you're wearing slices of ham or bacon

[tidal flame]

||Those are a different puzzle. That rooms puzzle is with the ghosts and the statue||

[narrow condor]

just saw on reddit xD

[finite stone]

I'm confused, you're not wearing the wyld oscelda male? You're wearing the female?

It got updated very quickly after release

[narrow condor]

the poster is wearing male

[finite stone]

Nope, they're wearing female (see male on right above)

are you sure you're not just looking at an old and outdated post?

[narrow condor]

im alrdy near max lvl 30 so im thinking bout buying the wyld

[narrow condor]

so this is the new look?

[finite stone]

For males yes, females get to keep the original

[narrow condor]

okiee ❤️

[errant sorrel]

is there any point to having multiple of the same totems?

[finite stone]

Yes, you can use 3 (one per slot)

[errant sorrel]

when a rune is slotted, can you use 2 of them on the same segment?

identical totems

[finite stone]

Nope - see https://wiki.avakot.org/Totems:

[errant sorrel]

ah thank you

so you only need 3 of each totem, past that theyre essentially useles at least for now?

[smoky crater]

you can release the totems to convert them to Harmony

same with runes

but yeah other than that extras would be useless

[errant sorrel]

thank you

[narrow condor]

Do you have an idea what this does

both normal and heavy?

[frigid spoke]

primary is normal

[zenith knoll]

this looks like a typo to me honestly

like there should only be one +4 damage

[spare badge]

Yeah. It's a known typo.

[narrow condor]

also does +attack speed affect heavy attack charge rate

[ebon ether]

Quick question : Is there a wipe because we're in Alpha or not ?

[smoky crater]

No

[smoky crater]

Also no

[narrow condor]

is the bear quest the last available quest?

[smoky crater]

It can be. Some of em can be done out of order but if you have 8 fables in your Journal, that's all

[spare badge]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Fables

As Wagiii pointed out, Fables aren't completely liniar. DE's said that's by design.

[narrow condor]

im missing the wolf. where can I trigger it

[long grove]

walk around, look for red balloons. not the ones in forts.

[smoky crater]

Find a red balloon at night somewhere in the midwest of the map

[narrow condor]

okie i saw one earlier

[exotic tide]

Has there been any word about Pact reworks and buffs?
I would hope they don't stay as the same "this Pact has one good ability, and the others might as well not even exist "

[smoky crater]

they've gotten buffs and some changes with the past couple preludes already

[spare badge]

Not speificically. But current focus is on p13's changes to virtures. There might also be some pact ajustmets. We'll have to see when we get more info.

[chilly locust]

ive been champoning this since i started playing the game lol

[spare badge]

If you watch all of the devstreams and soulshorts and envoy hours, DE doesn't want stuff to feel useless or too over-powered. That's the thing. They're still trying to find the proper balance. If something is feeling like it's useless, add feedback on how it could be improved in #1438224662344761345 .

[smoky crater]

balance has also gone from one end to the other constantly with the past few updates

[chilly locust]

i have thats where ive been champoning it, dont want to clog this chat with it was just mentioning it since someone else did

[vague fossil]

Is there a wiki the community considers to be the "best" or most up to date? Or are we too early days to really have that yet

Something to see drop tables for specific fragments and or materials

[spare badge]

https://wiki.avakot.org/

[vague fossil]

Thank you

[lucid ice]

I tested this before you even mentioned it, and it really does work, but it's quite annoying.

[narrow condor]

i just got a pup from the quest, is it like a kubrow

cant see it in nighthold

[chilly locust]

it should be there somewhere

they like to wander

[smoky crater]

it does leave the tent yeah

[chilly locust]

mine goes to the blacksmith and sleeps alot

[tacit leaf]

This game needs more info.
What does Virtues even do???

I got zero explanation as a Druid im just spamming Spirit

[smoky crater]

virtues are getting a major rework next week

[visual radish]

The devs are aware of the lack of info
Scott mentioned it last devstream

[tacit leaf]

Huh???

[tacit leaf]

Chat i just joined today.
Didnt knew i had access

So ofc im not aware of news

[exotic tide]

Adjustments are one thing, and those are totally fine.
It definitely seems like they need to bring Pablo in for a consult day just to get some ideas in on how to make a more cohesive kit for each of the Pacts. They really all feel like they have one distinctive ability and two others that buff the main one, or do basically nothing but provide a neat animation showcase. I'm a couple cases the Pacts have nothing at all and just exist as arm cosmetics and weapons platforms lmao

[smoky crater]

which ones are those pacts?

[tacit leaf]

Also, in some zones outside im getting massive FPS drops.
Best settings???
(I run RX 9060XT 8GB + R7 5800x 32GB DDR4)

[exotic tide]

Orengall and Ode Tempest

[smoky crater]

nah wtf

[spare badge]

May need to relog.

[exotic tide]

Orengall is just Tethren but worse, and Ode Tempest does basically nothing

[smoky crater]

when exploring new areas for the first time you might get some stuttering because the game is compiling shaders if that's what you mean

[exotic tide]

You can go bowling and that's it

[tacit leaf]

Oh i see, is there a way to compile massively?

[smoky crater]

no

[tacit leaf]

It should tbh

[smoky crater]

it happens when you go to a new area for the first time. that's it

[olive spruce]

IS p13 out?

[smoky crater]

no

you'll be pinged in #soulframe-news when it does come out

updates don't happen on weekends tho

[spare badge]

It's 3:07 PM on Saturday. DE's probaby watching Simpsons reruns like the rest of us.

[wraith badge]

I had a moment in my game with an enemy and felt like turning it into a gif

[frosty nebula]

It is indeed but still better than resetting the cogah imo

[zenith knoll]

live Avakot reaction at the bottom too. incredible

[wraith badge]

Since I was playing with sound off at the time, I didn't even notice it until I went to make the gif

I just tuned him out

[late dragon]

why is it when I'm looking at thr journal, some random pair of eyes pops up and removes the text?

[smoky crater]

that's just the soot motes doing their thing

you can click on one to restore the text

[late dragon]

Thanks

Honestly, I'm pretty lost about this game. I have so many questions, don't really understand the lore. Is there like, an intro guide somewhere? I don't want to spend the limited time I have scouring the forums (I have an infant so my free time is limited)

[smoky crater]

the lore is... currently something you do have to dig into a good bit to figure out

[dawn arrow]

The cloack rune for short swords is really fun

[wraith badge]

Yeah the Motes like eating words.
Before they got replaced with Totems, they occupied the same role.

[smoky crater]

yes and no? kind of...

[halcyon thicket]

Theres avakot wiki

[wraith badge]

well, they were Totems but weaker

I never got them all but you got them by fully researching a location

[late dragon]

Ok here's a question, I've got a bunch of armor in my inventory I want to put on, but it seems they don't appear when I'm in the nightfold. are they not compatible with my class or something?

[smoky crater]

you have to craft them

[long grove]

you got the fragments to build them, gotta get enough fragments to craft them at tuvalkane

[smoky crater]

when you hover over the item in the inventory you'll see there's a little "fragmented" icon on the left side of the item name indicating it's a "fragment" and not a crafted item

[late dragon]

nothing pops up when i hover over them 🙁

[long grove]

best to interact with tuvalkane

you'll see whatever you need more fragments for, and what resources you may need to craft them

[late dragon]

I can see an icon that looks like its broken pieces, I guess that means fragment. Thanks for the tip

[sweet ridge]

well eventuall;y the packs will be free so everyone will have the same points if they want to do the quests and havent paid

[lucid ice]

for sure

[long grove]

that was 12 hours ago

[smoky crater]

in the item info segment on the left side of the inventory i mean

[wet rivet]

In the future.. Right

[smoky crater]

and correct

[late dragon]

Ok another question - I have a 'garren rood' in my inventory, I think its the way I can get another pact. Unclear to me how to do that, if that's correct

[dawn arrow]

Any plans for excess fragments? You technically can craft a copy of a weapon and use blessed joinery but are there any potential other ruses? How does Warframe do it?

[smoky crater]

also gotta craft it

[late dragon]

ah of course, it is a fragment

[sweet ridge]

that is the recipe simply and need materials to craft

[smoky crater]

no info on anything about that atm

[sweet ridge]

haven't playted warframe

[smoky crater]

in warframe you can just sell extra blueprints for credits. (drac equivalent)

[late dragon]

A question about 'seeders' ... I thought I was picking up these 'seeders' from destroying 'squakers', so I'm confused that I'm supposed to place them on squakers. I guess I don't know what a squaker is?

[visual radish]

warframe just lets you sell the extras for a pittance of credits, ppl joke about using harrow chassis blueprints as reserve funds (usually when it reaches the hundreds)

[smoky crater]

the seeders are a fragment aswell that you need to craft, and then you can place one on the metal pole

placing them on the broken squawkers will give you fragments for 2 different bird guide skins

that's all

[late dragon]

ok so I get the fragment from a squaker, make a full one, then put it back on a squaker?

[smoky crater]

yes

[late dragon]

ok, cool. Thanks all for answering my beginner questions, I appreciate it

[dawn arrow]

Other than buying from the shop with premium currency, almost everything in the game is recipes and you must craft them

[smoky crater]

[late dragon]

Oh, also, should I bother crafting other main weapons - is it just a 'if you want to' kind of situation?

[long grove]

leveling weapons and pacts to 30 is a method to gain mastery, which adds to your envoy level. so even if you don't wanna keep em, level em and sell.

[wraith badge]

Why is there so many issues with Dungeon Entrances not registering?

I feel like they are timegated between when you can discover a new one

[finite stone]

Yep! There's an intro to the Lore on the lore page of the wiki: https://wiki.avakot.org/Lore

[long grove]

hit or miss. had to relog and run straight at a few of them. don't have to clear it, just discover it.

[sweet ridge]

what do the atrtunement colors mean ?

[spare badge]

Pre-alpha growing pains. Just tooss it up as a bug report.

[smoky crater]

indicates the virtue the weapon gets bonus points of damage from

[late dragon]

Ok here's a dumb question, what do the virtues actually control?

[sweet ridge]

I see

[smoky crater]

more points in grace in this case, means more damage to your weapon per point

[sweet ridge]

thank you

so a rogue can use a greatsword?

[smoky crater]

you can use anything, with anything

[spare badge]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Gameplay#Virtues

[wraith badge]

Just had to relog because my entire control system locked up

couldn't attack at all

[smoky crater]

were you not just stuck in soulmode?

[long grove]

a true soulframe experience

you'll be able to brag about experiencing that one day

[wraith badge]

I spammed every single button multiple times that had any input

[smoky crater]

wack

[long grove]

yeah i've experienced that. also only having control over mouse like i'm in a menu, but i can't escape it

[late dragon]

are the dungeons auto-generated? I feel like I keep finding the underground thing, its similar but different

[smoky crater]

ye they're procedurally generated

[late dragon]

thought so. how do I know if I've already 'conquered' one?

[smoky crater]

same tiles, different order

[finite stone]

Yep! It's explained a bit on https://wiki.avakot.org/Dungeons:

[long grove]

different tilesets build different ways at least, and we got three. dermak, neath'uns, and the glades

[smoky crater]

there's not really "conquering a dungeon" atm in any way

[long grove]

just discovering them all marks them on your map, and that's the most that changes from discovering a dungeon

[late dragon]

no way to 'save' once you are halfway through one right?

[sly escarp]

Ah, no, but you don't lose out on much

[smoky crater]

or anything even

[late dragon]

do you lose anything if you die?

one time i didnt make it back to my frame

[smoky crater]

nnnope

most likely gonna change eventually tho

[visual radish]

it is a bit of a missunderstanding to think in terms of classic rpg classes
it is all equipable gear, from your pacts to talismans to weapons to armor

and the virtues are subject to change in the near future as well

so you aren't a rogue exactly
you just started with grace equipment, but that is all that choice was, starter equipment

[warm imp]

what's a pull smite?

[smoky crater]

seen enemies bodies glow green/blue/red?

[warm imp]

blue before he killed himself

[finite stone]

It's explained on https://wiki.avakot.org/Smite if you need it:

[smoky crater]

that means you "procced" smite on that enemy, (exposed their soul), then you can use pull smite Q+M1 to pull on the soul to deal damage to the enemy, and if you have the pact upgrade, also heal yourself

[warm imp]

ok makes sense. just got one i think, thank you

[smoky crater]

and if for example you happen to have an ability on cooldown, let's say blue (grace) ability, using pull smite on an enemy that glows blue, will skip the cooldown

[warm imp]

is there any way to make magic more accurate? looking at a guy and it goes right off to the side to hit someone else.

[long grove]

autolock can tend to continue aiming at last person, block and aim at your new target to change it

[gaunt marsh]

when will the next update come ?

[exotic tide]

a build guide I was looking at for Tethrin recommends either Blitzel or "my best Courage bow"
Should I take the Starling I got from the Founders pack and attune it to Courage?

[trim oriole]

would hold off for now, games changing pretty dramatically next week

if you wanna play range Tethern go with Blitzel for now

[exotic tide]

gocha

[frigid pond]

Damn, this game is soo confusing

[wraith badge]

Discount Paragon

[vestal crystal]

follow bird... get stuff... slay enemies... pretty much everything there is to do

however next few month everything will change so

[frigid pond]

"catch courier"
killed every enemy in designated area
nothing happens, quest still in process

And bird is in same place because of that.

[vestal crystal]

i see you have encountered bug

ultra hardmode encounter, nothing to do than to run around and see if you can catch that courier

or restart

usually restart

[frigid pond]

Like, game?

[vestal crystal]

if it is a faction tale you can just go to the nightfold and wait 30 sec and i think that will stop the tale and if it doesn't then yeah the game. Since this game is pre pre pre pre alpha that is usually the case when encountering those bugs

[frigid spoke]

Going to camp won't end the tale, you'd need to move super far until a timer starts and wait til it ends. If you never get one then you might be bugged.