gameplay-discussion

[native drum]

nah I killed the people in front of the gate fck that guy (I was much lower level then him) but still fck that guy

[keen river]

but it's a pretty large pop-up at the center-top of the screen, hard to miss

it could have bugged and just not shown up that time, or it might not pop up until you actually enter

[cyan cedar]

not sure if this is the right channel but how long do i have to get the 99.99$ pack ???

[keen river]

we don't know exactly, but "many months," and we will know at least a month in advance before they go away

[cyan cedar]

ok good getting it next payday 🙂

[native drum]

tbh I thought it would end on the 30th this month unless my friend had miss information he said thats when the testing ends

[keen river]

that's just when this winter event ends

[native drum]

ahhh

[smoky crater]

also when the next devstream should be 👀

[keen river]

(thawtide, with the bird feeders and the hunters and whatnot)
that'll be going away on the 30th, and there is a decent chance we also get preludes 13 that day, but we don't know that for sure

none of that has any effect on the founders packs though

[native drum]

but fck I better go to sleep its 11pm I got to wake up at 5 to work my fun 12 hour shift yay me

[cyan cedar]

lol 10 am here sleep well

[native drum]

I shall be back to ask more questions on this game

[smoky crater]

ask... everything

[tawdry dew]

Is the wevet seed supposed to 1 up itself by each gathering? so you grab it you get 2, then 3, then 4, then 5

Nevermind i was being silly, it was telling me the total i have

[smoky crater]

[neat night]

what parrystability cost ? will it hurt alot ?

[smoky crater]

it shows as a "negative" stat but it's a positive one in reality

[neat night]

eh ?

[smoky crater]

it lowers the amount your stagger bar fills up by when you block attacks.

so you don't get knocked down as quickly

[elder roost]

Is soul frame down?

[smoky crater]

no

[idle owl]

it reduces how much stability parrying costs

so you lose less stability when you parry

[smoky crater]

parries don't have a stability cost, so it's blocking

[valid birch]

Think of it as a cost reduction. Could definitely be displayed better though

[idle owl]

weird

[neat night]

ty

[elder roost]

It saying update failed is, it down server side?

[smoky crater]

shouldn't be?

im able to start it up just fine

[elder roost]

Yea its saying content server unavailable

I restarted my pc to see if that makes a difference

[valid birch]

I just loaded up and logged in. Might be a connection issue for ya

[elder roost]

Damn

[smoky crater]

apologies for the possible flashbang in advance

could help ^

[elder roost]

Ty

You maybe right i was getting warning about some strict NAT stuff for whatever reasons prior

And… just like that its now working

Soon as i looked at my monitor lol

And it’s gone lol (cries)

[wild ferry]

how to get a key_

[elder roost]

So um….. don’t judge me but my Ethernet cord may or may not had been plugged in. lol

[elder roost]

Email them, someone gives you the 1 or 20 they got or buy a founders pack

[wild ferry]

how much is the founders pack

[frozen ether]

Stream on the 30th give codes

[smoky crater]

30 USD for each of the smaller ones, 100 for the big one that includes all the smaller ones + some extra.
pricing is regionalized tho so it might be slightly different for you

[wild ferry]

thanks guys

[smoky crater]

depending on where on ye good ol' rock sphere you live

[wild ferry]

germany 😛

[smoky crater]

probably 30€ for smaller ones and 100€ for the big one then

[wild ferry]

excatly

[granite jacinth]

thanks to the one giving me an access key earlier just woke up started the game, whats the best class between tank sage and archer, i mean i wish there's was a middle option for those who has a hard time choosing 🤣

[smoky crater]

i mean you can test out each one before locking into 1 and you can get all of the things from the other starting loadouts later on so pick whichever you find the most fun i suppose

[granite jacinth]

alright i tought it was the type of game that you lock on and stay with it thanks

[full hearth]

[barren scroll]

#looking-for-group message

Please don’t ask for keys in this discord. If you have time, take a read of this guide on how to obtain a key. Thank you 🤩

[smoky crater]

i don't think anyone was asking for a key, just asking how to get one ._.

[barren scroll]

It was for a message above that.

[smoky crater]

the "Do you know if you are still distributing keys for free?" one?
that to me just seemed more like either a typo or just english not first language

[barren scroll]

Yes. Still refer onto guidance, any questions regarding if people are still distributing keys should preferably be kept to DM's, as its a relay effect if someone says "Yes I am" everyone then asks in chat, which is something we want to try avoid before it happens. This way my message has conveyed everyone to a guide which they can follow to get a key with the correct info. 🙂

[white igloo]

Silly question: If I get a Thunder Stone, then log out, does it remain in my inventory, or does it disappear?

[frigid spoke]

poof

[white igloo]

darn

[frigid spoke]

it's a quest thing so it goes away

[bold niche]

YO, anyone kno why high level arena getting copied becomes low level?

[barren scroll]

Such as you joining someone then leaving to make your own endless?

[bold niche]

yess

[barren scroll]

Different instance. If host has level 76 enemies and you leave youll go down to level 1

As technically its your own world when you leave the hosts.

[bold niche]

so its impossible to keep it highn level?

[barren scroll]

Correct.

Unless you stay with the host, there is no way to keep it "High level"

[bold niche]

ic ic ty

[iron dust]

Is there a way to change your characters appearance and gender?

[rough rampart]

Hey, Where can I find sappheline?

[iron dust]

In chests in the overworld and more often in dungeons

[frigid spoke]

They glow gold and usually have a blue flower etched on it

Looks like this

Not guaranteed, can have a number of different things, so good luck

[rough rampart]

Thanks

[rose dome]

someone know if its a bug when the armor (orengall) is not in alca faction shop?

[frigid spoke]

It's part of the alca's faction tales drop right now

Can get from the collector event and those crate also, rare tho

[rose dome]

ya i got only 1\4 chest with maybe 30+ tales and tons of helmet and legs i feel cursed XDDD

and its my only armor i miss to have 100% on armor

[frigid spoke]

yeah rng is a pita

[rose dome]

XDDDD

[frigid spoke]

T3 for the tales for sure, just hella slow

[rose dome]

aight thx broski ^^

[frigid spoke]

I got a piece from the collector crates

aya

[rose dome]

btw i must have the electric ball to complete the collector

or is it just kill nimrod

[frigid spoke]

em you try to keep mada from taking those special crates up and yeah kill nimrod, then she drops the crates to break em

[rose dome]

aight gotcha lets hope imma get it ^_^

[round fable]

Okay so quick question about Mistgale. When active, and the sword is going all out, does the spectered sword count as a thrown weapon?

[frigid spoke]

It's pretty random but does happen for Sappheline.

[flat cipher]

noob question but how to enter the event side of the game ?

[smoky crater]

the event is always active.
it's just the noisemakers on the poles with the 3 enemies nearby

that you can find basically anywhere

[flat cipher]

ahh niceone ty

[smoky crater]

from the enemies you can get an armor set and 2 weapons, from breaking the noisemakers, a talisman (charm) and 2 guide bird skins

[flat cipher]

niice

i also killed defeated a stag and after it gave me some items but cant seem to find them

[smoky crater]

those you'll need to craft

[flat cipher]

how to do that ?

[smoky crater]

but you'll also need to get more fragments (blueprint pieces essentially) to be able to

[flat cipher]

soo re run that boss ?

[smoky crater]

you should get guided to the quest that lets your start crafting now that you completed the Torment Stag fable

[flat cipher]

awesome

[smoky crater]

non.
there's a version of it that spawns in the overworld now

[flat cipher]

overworld ?

think il need spend some time on the net n look some things up

[smoky crater]

overworld like the openworld ya kno, not the dungeons

[drifting cape]

btw the two bird skins are for repairing the bird caller

the charm is just from breaking it

[flat cipher]

ty

[drifting cape]

so once you have both the birbs you dont gotta repair any more

you used to be able to repair them for free but i think they patched that

[flat cipher]

i have not been in a dungeon yet

[frigid spoke]

You have if you beat the 1st stag

[flat cipher]

i see

[smoky crater]

the underground cave city place is a dungeon

[flat cipher]

ok i been in dungeon lol

[smoky crater]

lmao

[flat cipher]

gonna jump bk in game

im at kith of kings but cant work out how to open the door

[tardy ermine]

Does anybody know what the roman numerals next to different weapons are? Does a higher number mean better stats or are they just different versions

[smoky crater]

like Sollos-I, Rivt-II and Vasp-IV?

it's just part of the weapons name, no significance

[sonic adder]

They need to add mounts and a raid

[smoky crater]

mounts already are confirmed.
raids.... to be seen.
they've said the sieges are sort of a first attempt at raid type stuff

[flat cipher]

mounts def yes

[tardy ermine]

ohhh ok thank you

[idle oxide]

is there something specific that triggers the endless mobs bugging where their level doesn't increase?

[frigid spoke]

Did you get a taxi to have your own instance?

[idle oxide]

yes

[frigid spoke]

That may be why, when you leave the higher lvl instance to get your own, it resets to the lowest lvl, that might be bugging out and keeping them from getting higher

[idle oxide]

it doesn't lower the lvl in this case though, the lvl just doesn't increase with each wave/kill

[round fable]

That is because someone went to nighthold after wave started. It level locks.

I have seen it happen and have been able to test and confirm. Ensure that everyone has what they want to level before start. Otherwise, that is the level the mockeries are going to be from there forth.

Taxi increases the chance of level lock as well

[idle oxide]

ah, that sucks. thank you for the info

[round fable]

So far, when it comes to doing Endless, I myself don't do Taxi's when I find one, I always invite in the corridor not in the tile itself. Make sure everyone has what they want before you get in the tile, then start it. As long as you follow those three simple things, and started with a high level glade, you should be ending at lvl 60 Mockeries.

[severe epoch]

where can i find stagg to then do a stagg share?

[round fable]

Good places would be corrupted zones. But there is 10 spots all together through the world. He only spawns at night.

A really good place? Wraith of the Waste, he will always be right on the other side of the ruined tower.

Then you can hit Wraith at the same time

[severe epoch]

tyvm

[frozen ether]

can i invite people mid cogah?

[crimson flame]

No

[frozen ether]

ah ok

[crimson flame]

[merry lion]

How can I know Where to find the stuff I need ?

[idle owl]

avakot wiki

https://wiki.avakot.org/

[merry lion]

Whats the name of the double sword ? I cant find it

[verbal oracle]

The Short Blades that you use two of?

[stable cradle]

game crash in endless

worst thing poossible

[verbal oracle]

I'm working on the Triune Talisman. Is there a way skip the "Can only spawn once per in game day" thing? I did one but I have the other two and need to fight him two more times. Also, is there a specific time of day for each...or you just wear them until it happens (I did the dawn one when it changed from night to day but it didn't happen...then a while later It worked).

[granite jacinth]

the impossible is possible, my wife just download soulframe on a Legacy motherboard with graphic card intergrated and it runs smooth with some lags but hey it could be worst haha

[smoky crater]

gotta play the waiting game
no timeskips

[verbal oracle]

Fair enough thanks!

[frozen ether]

my virtue points have disappeared after switching pacts or did i do something

major confused

yeah what i had before 43 points total if im not wrong

[smoky crater]

did you have virtue upgrades applied on your previous pact?

from the pact "Upgrades" tree?

[drifting cape]

try exiting the arsenal and going back if you havent

[smoky crater]

and that too yeah, sometimes the UI can bug

[drifting cape]

sometimes the virtues bug out when you switch

[frozen ether]

i think thats fixed it i honestly can remember what the number was before

[drifting cape]

lol

[frozen ether]

scared me

[drifting cape]

well ive never heard of anyone getting their virtues perma deleted so yeah youre probly good

yeah that happens a lot for me

[frozen ether]

question while im here

the cap on courage

for weapon damage

after you hit that is it worth putting points into spirit and grace?

[dim wave]

Hey are enchantments lost if removed from weapons or are they returned to inventory?

[frozen ether]

if i go higher than 36 in courage it doesnt add any extra stat really

[drifting cape]

id assume so

[drifting cape]

lost

you can only switch to a new one, not remove

[dim wave]

Dang. Thats both runes and totems?

[drifting cape]

nooooooo

no those you can do whatever with

im talking joineries

[dim wave]

oh lmao that makes more sense. So I would regain everflame in my inventory if I put something else on my weapon as an example?

[drifting cape]

yes

same with totems

[dim wave]

Sick. Is it limited by if one weapon has it equipped, I can equip the same one or would I have to farm again to get a second everflame for the second weapon?

[frozen ether]

wheres good to learn about what runes and totems are best with eachother?

[drifting cape]

uhhhh idk actually

[frozen ether]

i kinda just go with whatever i feels good atm

smite, stagger and health regain

but i feel like i could be doing better

[drifting cape]

idk this either. but a lot of the meta runes are cogha runes

[dim wave]

dang. I guess I can test. Thanks for the help!

[frozen ether]

i dont even know which runes are good, i ran my first coga for 2 hours today

and what runes and totems should be upgraded

[dim wave]

Just checked. Looks like the whole system is kinda warframe mod rules with no limits of mods on one weapons stopping you from equipping it on a second at the same time

[drifting cape]

torrent is super good for bows. treefell is super good for greatswords. thats about all i know

[frozen ether]

i tried looking on youtube but even those guides seem messy for me to understand properly

[dim wave]

Last question I think. Is there a limit to upgraded mods or am I able to just equip tier 3s to all slots?

[arctic cedar]

Most of the runes are good, except for shield one from cogah, it's quite useless

For totems I run stagger defence, phys. Def, a.speed, pull smite chance in almost everything

[frozen ether]

Is there any good YouTube videos you could suggest that simplify it for me

[arctic cedar]

Probably SaraLovesArchery has one

[drifting cape]

afaik you can upgrade everything if you want

[dim wave]

Crazy. Thanks for all the help!

[arctic cedar]

But descriptions are pretty self explainatory imo, you need to see what matches your play style

And it's better to use normal rune on sidearms usually since def/stagger bonuses are added from it to, meaning you can get 2 def slots

Unless you are going bow and don't need that ig

[still owl]

after playing for a while now, i think this game has a massive problem with stagger and knockdowns. the devs should take a hard look at how much the stagger in this game disrupts the flow and fun of melee combat. i honestly thinks its the worst ive seen in any game, and its making it super hard to enjoy melee. ive seen discussions that theres certain pacts that can reduce stagger, but players shouldnt have to make specific builds to counter and anti-fun mechanic

[arctic cedar]

True, what works for me is stagger def runes on both weapons and medicant armor, imo it kinda solves the issue

But I really hope they will work on it cause it's not cute

[merry lion]

I guess i just want one sword in each hands

[unreal roost]

how does one get to the island in the NW?

[verbal oracle]

There is no way to just pick which two weapons you carry in each hand. You can dual wield if you use the Short Blades that work that way. Otherwise it isn't an option.

[still owl]

i think thats the problem though. stagger really is just an unfun mechanic, so when enemies have stagger attacks 50% of the time, it entirely ruins the flow of the combat. having to make a build just to counter a bad mechanic then means youre now ruining the fun of making builds. i think they should take a look at removing stagger from all but specific enemies and attacks so that its far less common is all

[drifting cape]

all the primary short blades except rostrom

[young igloo]

i wanna add joinery to my purity, is there an additional benefit using blessed by mora joinery over regular polished joinery

[still owl]

just changes the attunement

[arctic cedar]

They need to either tune it down, or make parry more reliable or actually both lol

[still owl]

i actually dont have any issues parrying personally, but ive seen people talk about it so there must be something with it. its really just the stagger that i have a problem with

[arctic cedar]

Did you try to parry with greatsword?

[frozen ether]

is there a limit to the amount of runes & totems you can store?

[still owl]

id even bet most people that are having problems with parrying are actually being staggered and missing it haha.

[smoky crater]

Nope

[arctic cedar]

Yes that's kinda the problem with greatsword I think, theres just no window to parry

[vestal knot]

Ran into my first boss-share scammer :/

[still owl]

lol posting in game chat and discord, that scammer better run

[vestal knot]

I just don't think that's the kind of behavior this community needs 🙂
Be wary when dealing with tyler97f

Hopefully that doesn't break any rules, but I read through them and didn't see anything explicitly against 'name-&-shame' for bad actors

[sand vine]

Can you switch or reset virtues? I accidentally picked spirit and didnt want that.

[granite jacinth]

Trying to help my wife on the legacy computer we have and ya i dont know what to put down so its less delay lol i will take any tips, i know already i need to switch the Legacy motherboard graphic card intergrated, but is there something else in settings i could lower and she still has a good experience?

[smoky crater]

Try 720p maybe? At this point lowering render resolution is the only thing that might help in an impactful way

[tired sail]

Drop texture memory from high to low?

[smoky crater]

Running on 1080p with a not so new iGPU is a bit ambitious imo

[smoky crater]

That could do something too yeah

[granite jacinth]

Thanks for advice i will let u know my brother is more into tech then me

[tired sail]

Not sure if it makes much of a difference, since it's an IGPU, but if the system ram is low enough to the point you have to start using page files, you might be noticing a performance impact from that.

[granite jacinth]

I switch to direct 12 to see the diffenrence instead of 11

Colour is fine till i open my wheels i tought somethibg was about to jump scare me

[tired sail]

If you alt tabbed and that happened, that may be the reason why your colours are messed up.

Apparently heading into nightfold and exiting can fix the colours.

Oh, never heard of someone's colours going like that after opening the gear weel before.

[granite jacinth]

Legacy motherboard thats why no worries

Trying to play games on a dinosaur

[opaque jasper]

Does the Torrent Rune's arrows deal greater damage than regular arrow hail? Or do they have armor bypass?

[white igloo]

What's a good stat build with Moira's Hand?

[drifting cape]

iirc mora's hand ONLY scales with duration. or is it range? i forget

[whole monolith]

lil food for though DE has made around 6.1 million dollars from the paragon bundle alone, as there are about 120 flowers(1 flower is 1 person) in one garden each paragon bundle is $100 coming to $12000, and at this time there are 515 gardens (once the max number of flowers have been reached a new will be made) so we 12000 x 515 = $6180000. very nice

[white igloo]

https://wiki.avakot.org/Mora's_Hand

[drifting cape]

a person can have anywhere from 1-4 flowers

and the 30$ bundles give a flower

[opaque jasper]

Think your math is a little off, as each flower is worth 30 individually, or 33 if someone got paragon. So it should be something like $1,854,000 to $2,039,400 USD

If all 515 gardens are full with 120 flowers each.

[vestal knot]

1 flower is not 1 person - 1 person with the paragon bundle can place 4 flowers

[granite jacinth]

After we tell me its to much asking to have weapons slots for each weapon instead of paying currency for them

Anyway sadly im at the point that for my legacy lenovo motherboard graphic card intergrated i need to switch them and im bad at that could someone pm me recommendation that are cheap but the best for my wife to play the game

[verbal oracle]

What's the deal with "Kairness" (the PoI)?

I have gone there (and done the relogging trick), but I have yet to find a mote. Right now it says there is 2 and I can't find them anywhere. I have even gone so far as to check the entire "Fort-like" structure to the east (every time) and still nothing.

Any help is welcome. 😄

[sly escarp]

Kairness has a massive mote spawning radius

It's the town, all the nearby camps, and a good chunk of the surrounding forest

[verbal oracle]

That's ridiculous, but I shall just go bigger with my search.

[tired sail]

Could just put it off until P13, and see if that update changes the area/spawn radius.

[sly escarp]

Agreed, they really need to take another pass at that location imo

[granite jacinth]

@tired sail thats what i got if i set everything to low

[lament seal]

Am I stuck?

[sly escarp]

Is there no hook to drag that over to you?

[lament seal]

I don't see any others

[sly escarp]

Oh, wait...did you step off as it was moving?

[lament seal]

it wouldn't let me step on it

[sly escarp]

Weird

You may be locked then, just reload the dungeon

[lament seal]

there's a lever here too but I can't touch it

[tired sail]

If you open settings and enable fps, or open task manager and viewing Performance > Memory, are you close to using up all of your system memory/allocated Vram?

[granite jacinth]

Ngl @tired sail my motherboard dont laugh but LENOVO Bantry CRB 😂😅

I got it for free but i have been playing games no stress but now all those new games asking to much for it

[sullen pond]

does anyone know if gathannan drops anywhere other than the deer?

killed about 50 and havent got one yet

[tired sail]

Only the deer, just making sure but you are killing the vadagar version?

[sullen pond]

indeed

guess im just unlucky

[tacit spire]

I tested a long time ago, I kinda wonder how much the game has changed since then

[sullen pond]

its the same with dewelion, been farming the collector, the 2 undercity bosses and the kearnhold siege and haven't got a single piece

either im super unlucky or something is up with the drops 🤔

[fresh cape]

If I spend arc now to unlock something is it gone if they wipe?

[drifting cape]

there wont be a wipe

IF there is, no that wont happen

DE would get buried if they did that

but they have said there will be no more wipes

[native drum]

it might just be me but I hope they add a way to customize your nightfold

[drifting cape]

oh i have to assume thatll come at some point

[native drum]

yeah about my other question can you find weapons or only find the fragments and craft them?

[still owl]

I honestly hope there’ll be fishing some day

[drifting cape]

only fragments

theres 1 armor set you can find

[native drum]

whats the green little brittish guy called?

[drifting cape]

avakot

[native drum]

the moment they add you can gamble on his game is the day I hope for

[drifting cape]

steve was asked if there will be something like fishing or mining or something and he said they had some ideas

i also want gamba regatta

[native drum]

fishing woul;d be sickk though I love fishing in games

[distant tartan]

So, I have a big ol question

Can I be a paladin and heal people while soaking up damage?

[drifting cape]

uhhhhhhhh not really

well. tethren has a taunt

but not a heal

and theres a healer without a taunt

[still owl]

Anyone know if there’s a lore breakdown somewhere? Looked at a couple yt vids but they weren’t great

[cunning junco]

I crafted the medallion of mora, but I cannot enter the mora enclave

I've never seen the spirit people are talking about that you need to kill, relogged multiple times

anyone know what's goin on

[drifting cape]

night time

[native drum]

hey you guys know the fire king guy and he reputation thing

well when you accept one of his "quest things" can I cancel it?

[unreal roost]

yeah just run away from it

or relog.

Question: Did they fix the fort exploiting by not finishing an relogging?

[frigid spoke]

Gotta move far enough til you get a countdown for abandoning.

[native drum]

okk good because I'm meant to kill one of those bombers turret things but it didnt spawn

[unreal roost]

+1 question to the fort reset question, is there more than 1 fort we can raid? or other ways to get runes?

[daring jacinth]

There are two total forts right now, both on a 3 hr cooldown.

[unreal roost]

I saw a vid that said if you dont burn baloon, you can relog and the weapon wracks enemys and barrels respawn

and where is second fort? Im doing the obvious one, by the river in lower level area

[daring jacinth]

I think Ourous already answered in-game for you. the second forts to the east and a little ways north

[unreal roost]

top right of my pic?

[daring jacinth]

That's the second we were talking about lol, we thought you were at the first fort, look at your map. It has the same symbol/icon that the fort you're at does.

[daring jacinth]

You're at curlai right now

[unreal roost]

thats why im confused lol, I dont have any other banner with a sword on it

ohhh kk. so this is for curtail

[daring jacinth]

the one to the east is called kearnhold

[unreal roost]

ahh ok ty ty for the answers

[daring jacinth]

There's only two, curlail, and kearnhold.

[unreal roost]

seems the reset still works.

ah yeah north of tree. I think I was there but couldnt figure out how to get gate open

[daring jacinth]

Go around the side and kill the mini boss banneret there, she drops a key to open the side door

[velvet grail]

Does it make more sense to put Gildaur or Feybalt on Odiac?

[unkempt sphinx]

Feybalt

Always Feybalt on magic items

[daring jacinth]

Yup Feybalt, as a test I crafted a second Odiac and used a Mora Feybalt & it slaps hard.

[drifting cape]

whats with the co-op only undercity? better stuff in there?

[sly escarp]

Slightly higher level enemies

[sonic adder]

they need to add mounts and a raid asap

[drifting cape]

there will be mounts. i think steves talked about raids but idk whats been said

in the meantime you can use orengall to zoom

[distant tartan]

Eh, maybe they'll add it later. Honestly the thing I'd love the most would be some sort of healing aura

[drifting cape]

totally possible

[distant tartan]

So I assume this game is gonna be open open world yeah?

[drifting cape]

it already is

[distant tartan]

Well, more open

[drifting cape]

idk what that means

like bigger map? yea ofc

[distant tartan]

Basically, how big will the final release world be?

[neat night]

sooo, how do you parry & melee with bow ?

[distant tartan]

Do we know?

[frigid spoke]

no

[drifting cape]

no one knows but we know the current island is the "starter island"

[neat night]

nope, but the Dev did confirm this is only a "tutorial island"

[distant tartan]

chokes on tuna fish TUTORIAL ISLAND?! AT THIS SIZE?!

[frigid spoke]

right click at the right time

[drifting cape]

aim

[neat night]

aim at the right time? that's all?

[frigid spoke]

ye

[drifting cape]

yea, same as other weapons

[neat night]

I'm really a useless potato then, ty

[distant tartan]

I got my tuna fish and miracle whip. Is delicious

[frigid spoke]

you have to unlock it in the tree tho

[neat night]

yes, they did confirm it, the current map is just a tutorial island where they dump a lot of things here to test out the game mechanic and features

[distant tartan]

This is gonna be hefty

I admit I havent played other MMOs with open worlds before like WoW or ff14, so this will be a new experience for me

[drifting cape]

i believe in steve ( & Sarah & co) to make a hefty experience yeah

[neat night]

also with how the current "siege" work, I think they gonna add more complex team play in the future, like Raid of some sort

[distant tartan]

He IS named Steve after all. A true master builder (heh)

Also I want instruments. Like drums and flutes and things

Let me play whimsical medieval music!

[drifting cape]

there is a random lyre in the map

[neat night]

sso yeah, the main release will be a sight to behold if they can keep this up, this game already more feature rich than alot of live service AAA game already xD

[distant tartan]

Perfect!

[distant tartan]

My eyes will pop like bugs bunny in astonishment

[drifting cape]

well.. thats no comformation we'll be able to play a lyre

[distant tartan]

Though i must ask one thing im curious about

[drifting cape]

but yeah idk if theres other instruments laying around. thats the only one ive seen

[distant tartan]

I've never played any proper world MMO as I said, so how will player population work? Will everyone exist in the same instance in a region?

I know thats not how it works now, but im just wondering

[drifting cape]

no the plan is to stick to 3 player co-op

[neat night]

no

[drifting cape]

but it works like warframe

where the faction hubs do show a bunch of people

[neat night]

it's kinda like... Where wind meets if you get what I mean (without the online instance, but only coop instance instead)

[drifting cape]

not all in the same instance though

idk the warframe relay limit but a decent number of people

[distant tartan]

I hope they add an actual message board where people can post requests for recruiting pepple into a group, or maybe barter requests for specific resources

That'd be neat

[drifting cape]

uhhhhhh

well... we have that

[neat night]

umm...

[distant tartan]

Not a forum I mean, but a literal physical message board

[neat night]

we already have that, yeah

[drifting cape]

the world trees

[distant tartan]

...damn, I really gotta do some more research

I must seem like a looney to you guys lol

[drifting cape]

no lol but i guess you don't have the game?

[neat night]

do you need a prelude code ?

[distant tartan]

Yeah? I thought i had to wait on twitch or pay for it?

Whats a prelude code?

[drifting cape]

code to get into the game

[neat night]

the code that you use to join the prealpha, I have 1 for spare I think

let me check real quick

[distant tartan]

Oh, if your fine giving it to me, I'd love it

[drifting cape]

preludes = their name for the games alpha

[drifting cape]

btw we don't have this 100%. we do have message boards where people can write things, but that is all at the moment

[distant tartan]

No worries, its still cool^^

[neat night]

sent u in the dm

my last one haha xD

[opaque jasper]

Do you happen to have a link to this? 👀

[neat night]

let me see

[opaque jasper]

I've missed a lot of streams

[neat night]

I dont remember what stream it is though

[verbal oracle]

OK, I was just going around finishing up my map, and I'm missing two things from the interactive map.

Castle Kearnhold and World Tree 16.

You're not intended to be able to get these yet right?

[opaque jasper]

Correct

[frigid spoke]

You can get to the last tree with some creative searching. Might get blocked next patch

[drifting cape]

even if it does get blocked, can always take a taxi there

unless they delete the tree

[granite jacinth]

So i need help but tech help and im not the best nerd i love my 1TB but the rest i need to put the game at LOW settings and i found it awfull for my wife to play like that any suggestion

[frigid spoke]

Don't play on a laptop =/

[drifting cape]

?

[granite jacinth]

Dude it isnt a laptop

[drifting cape]

seems like odd advice

[granite jacinth]

My laptop is running on high tho and it works perfectly im talking about my wife pc @frigid spoke

[neat night]

I would suggest...

[drifting cape]

this does look like it would struggle though

[frigid spoke]

either way that graphics card isn't cutting it. 1gb of ram is hella low

[neat night]

getting a handheld for your wife or something, I dont think we can do much for the system requirement though

[frigid spoke]

Soulframe, currently in a pre-alpha/closed alpha state (Preludes), requires a 64-bit Windows 7 or newer OS, a decent dual-core CPU (like an i7 860 or FX-4100), 8GB RAM, a DirectX 11+ GPU, and 50GB storage, plus broadband internet; expect these minimums to increase as the game develops towards full release.

[dry magnet]

Are the Cardinal Charms not dropping?

[granite jacinth]

Ya so its a legacy motherboard that the graphic ccard is integrated into the motherboard and idk what to change it for cheap

[tired sail]

Are you able to allocate more vram?

[neat night]

changing motherboard, you will have to change a lot of other things

[opaque jasper]

You're gonna need a new motherboard, RAM, CPU, Graphics card... May as well replace that hard drive too

[granite jacinth]

@tired sail its a mess

[opaque jasper]

That processor you have is from 2014

[neat night]

basically buy a new one at that point

[granite jacinth]

I know

[neat night]

so yeah, for budget option, I think just... buy a cheap handheld or ssomething

[opaque jasper]

Even a cheap newer laptop would probably run better

[granite jacinth]

My laptop that cost me 2K its better then a built-in PC no way

[restive ridge]

Any good ways to get fragments for the Blitzel bow?
I am already Faction rank 4 and havent found a single fragment

[granite jacinth]

Thanks for help i guess ima keep that pc for smaller games

[tired sail]

Setting everything to the low preset, the game appears to need 3gb of ram and 3gb of vram

[neat night]

that PC should be fine for game like hollow knight and things, maybe some coop game with your wife like it take two or something else

[granite jacinth]

Can i keep the 1 TB is that the only good thing good i have on it 🤣

[drifting cape]

1tb is fine

though a HDD in this day and age.. eh

[tired sail]

Although I'm not sure if windows automatically manages vram for an igpu, or if you're expected to manage that stuff yourself if you need more.

[drifting cape]

not so fine

[neat night]

HDD is fine to save videos & images xD

[granite jacinth]

Well okay i will sleep less dumb tonight

[drifting cape]

true yeah you should keep it for storage

[neat night]

(or you can buy an even better PC then leave ur current laptop for your wife) *quink quink

[tired sail]

Might be able to go into adrenalin and set vram there

[drifting cape]

bad time to buy a new pc

but.. might not be a better time

[tired sail]

ddr4 isn't exploding in price at least.

[drifting cape]

yea thats good. ddr4 is fine

[granite jacinth]

@neat night my next master piece

[drifting cape]

WHOA yes it has exploded in price

not as much as ddr5 but not great

[tired sail]

Ya, I was wrong just looked it up too.

[opaque jasper]

When buying RAM right now I would try getting it from not a retailer

Like, facebook marketplace or something

[neat night]

damn

so yeah, jut buy a new one then give ur wife the current laptop xD

[tired sail]

Used wouldn't be too bad, especially if you can find someone upgrading from am4 to am5

[opaque jasper]

The RAM I got was 200 when I got it, it's 800 now if I wanted to get the same RAM

[neat night]

(I did that myself a while ago)

btw, I got my first flitsmoke rune yesterday

\ ( * . * ) /

at the Banneret boss

for some reasons, not the spider

[granite jacinth]

@neat night @tired sail mmmmh tempting

[neat night]

hmmmm

[granite jacinth]

Are those good? I tought someone would tell me thats bad brand 🤣

[opaque jasper]

When buying prebuilt, make sure you research, compare, look at reviews

Some prebuilt companies are not great

[granite jacinth]

Oh its not pre-built i customized it

I just dont want to spam but if only you saw what i see rn and you love building juggernaut pc

[opaque jasper]

A pre-built is anything you paid a business to build, even if you selected the parts yourself

Regardless I would still do lots of research wherever you're buying from

[granite jacinth]

Oh no they dont built it they send you the parts and u build it at home

[drifting cape]

they do? weird

[opaque jasper]

I feel like I'm misunderstanding

[granite jacinth]

@spare badge go look unboxing origin Big O V3 on youtube you wont regret and u will understand what i say

[neat night]

this exacly my nightmare with my first W40k model O_O

[opaque jasper]

My question about this is whether you're paying more per part for this or if it's actually a better value than just ordering everything yourself.

[spare badge]

Hey, I grew up in the 80s and 90s, when physical Lego was having its heyday.

[neat night]

haha you old man

[granite jacinth]

Yeaah legos

[neat night]

joking aside I'm not that young either ~~

[night orchid]

Hey, does anyone have a spare invite key for the game? I just signed up today.

[neat night]

aw just gave away my last one :< sry

[spare badge]

#envoy-gathering message

[granite jacinth]

All that for 4,746$

[velvet grail]

You can see if Keyshamble is awake, he's got some.

[spare badge]

Way more money than I'll ever have at one point.

[granite jacinth]

Its not that much? It could be 10k thats to much with 3 year warranty and replacement shipping free

[neat night]

*pat pat, just dont overspend urself, everything else should be fine~

[spare badge]

It's an insane amount when your bank account never really sees $1000 at any given time.

[granite jacinth]

Same here but still manage

[frigid spoke]

That's still a prebuilt, origin will put it together and ship it to you. The costs to ship the components would make that even worse. I bought a customized origin about 4 years ago.

[granite jacinth]

No they wont i just said it my brother got one 1 year and a half he got to built it

[final rock]

yeesh that price is a scam.

[frigid spoke]

bro I just customized the same pc you showed, their site literally says fully custom and hand built to order

[granite jacinth]

Oh you didnt choose the good option

[frigid spoke]

shoulda used pcpartpicker and cutout the middle man

[final rock]

all im going to say is build services are ~100usd

[opaque jasper]

I looked up all the parts, it's Around 2700 before shipping

If you ordered yourself

Give or take like 50$ because idk how many fans

Also-300$ if you don't care about elgato capture card, that will only be used if you are playing a console and using your pc to record it

So, minimum around 2400$ if you ordered each thing yourself

[final rock]

you could do a lot better w 2400usd than that build too depending on how bad things have gotten over the last few weeks.

wow SSDs have gone up in price ._.'

[granite jacinth]

Wierd for me its the price i said bit above 6,000$ Canadien

[opaque jasper]

Ah, my prices were usd

So should be 3740 ish for you

[granite jacinth]

And its more for streaming gaming pc for me i always play with mods on certain games like repo so

[opaque jasper]

Do you have consoles you play?

[granite jacinth]

Series X ya

I found myself so dumb to buy it when it got out for so high lol its -300$ now from the initial price

[opaque jasper]

If you didn't you wouldn't have to worry about the elgato

The 4k pro is really good though I haven't had any issues with it

Plug and play basically

[final rock]

nvm god is dead you couldnt do too much better for 2400usd anymore besides a better CPU

[granite jacinth]

Perfect so first just gotta get her a 2k laptop cause i csn play alot of AAA smooth with my TUF gaming A17 and after im waste my money on a juggernaut

[final rock]

seems NVIDIA GPUs are starting to spike in price or be oos on the high end

[granite jacinth]

Ya same time god died world went to crap 🤣

2021 if i remember price went up for dumb

[unreal roost]

so what is the "endless, taxi, or King" I see in chat people want groups for

[final rock]

endless - arena fighting waves of enemies to farm xp. from my understanding it is no longer endless tho so false advertising.
taxi - joining a person in an area you want to go to skipping the need for the fast travel seeds
king - people group up to kill their instances of a boss, in this case mendicant king, to get 3 spins at the drop table instead of 1

[granite jacinth]

Maybe in preludes 14 xbox and ps will be able to joining in early gaming

For now she is on my laptop i lost it for the night 🤣

[final rock]

preludes being crossplatform is real unlikely if I had to guess. prob wont be until the game is "released" for it to get console ports

[granite jacinth]

I meant not crossplay interely

Xbox with xbox ps with ps

[final rock]

yeah was not alluding to crossplay. just being on multiple platforms

[granite jacinth]

Oh okay

[spare badge]

Yeah. DE's stated that Preludes is PC only. Because of the issues with needing to be able to more rapidly add/change stuff in the game.

They've said that "full release" will be PC first, then other platforms. So eventually, there will be crossplay. And platforms will get their own time when founders will be avaible for them.

[neat night]

Console has a very strict early access rules & gates, let alone they doing a "testing phase" on PC, now if they also doing a "testing phase" on console, it will be like:

• Write an Essay in English for review
• Write the same Essay in French for review
  Then if 1 of the two get feedback, you will have to update both in both languages xD

[final rock]

makes sense

[unreal roost]

doesnt he only spawn once in story tho?

[spare badge]

And one in Spanish, and one in Navajo.

[neat night]

not to mention that you usually have a "mountain of feedback" in the testing phase

[granite jacinth]

Ya im just hoping cause let’s be honnest you can turn your xbox into a pc tho u get banned, but why do Xbox dont upgrade

[neat night]

so... I dont think console is an option for now xD

"for now"

[final rock]

eh someday the gabecube will arrive to give you soulframe on "console"

[granite jacinth]

Omg gamecube thats been so long

[spare badge]

Cue someone tracking down a person named Gabe Cube and pestering them about something they have no idea about...

[final rock]

eh not my problem

[granite jacinth]

Oh i tought u meant gamecube idk who that person is

[worthy star]

ended up equipping the attack speed animal on Paragon's attack slot because I was tired of taking multiple attacks mid-swing and unable to switch to blocking or rolling

[final rock]

Valve announced the Steam Machine, a desktop steam deck w more power, a few months ago.

From what we've seen its pretty much a console w SteamOS hence the nickname "Gabecube"

[neat night]

pre-ordered one in my local store xD

[final rock]

its up for pre-order?

[neat night]

nope

[spare badge]

I was jut making a snarky joke. I also thought they meant gamecube.

[neat night]

just local store, which means I will get them whenever the store have their first

f my English

[granite jacinth]

Its in 2026 Q1 so next month or 2

[final rock]

ngl figured itd be a year or so for whatever reason. specs wouldnt make too much sense if that was the case tho as it seems rather underpowered.

[still owl]

Steam machine can seem underpowered for a people who are used to pc’s but it’s been speculated so far that it’s somewhere around 25% faster than ps5 pro, so depending on pricing it could be a pretty big upgrade for most people

[granite jacinth]

Meh the biggest upgrade would be Xbox stop being Ahole and let us used it has a Pc if it wouldnt of been for banned i would do that instead of buying a laptop

[still owl]

Problem is laptops always have a really bad price to performance ratio so most people would be way better off with a pc or console if they don’t need it to be portable

[final rock]

yeah if portability isnt a need laptop makes no sense.

[granite jacinth]

@still owl tell that to my laptop that can run AAA games 🤣

[still owl]

Not trying to offend you, but I guarantee a pc that costs 1/3 of that laptop runs the game just as fast or faster. It’s just a basic fact that laptops are a bad value when it comes to performance

[granite jacinth]

No tried it before

[still owl]

How much did that cost?

[granite jacinth]

2k only Canadien

[final rock]

oh already bought the laptop woops. saw "buying" and assumed otherwise

[still owl]

1.5k usd buys you a pc that would absolutely destroy that laptop. Before pc parts got hard to find this last month or two that would have built you a fairly high end desktop

[granite jacinth]

Sure, i did my research and thats was the best a pc that would of beat that would of cost me 3k 4k

Canadian price oh wait true im in the worst Quebec

[final rock]

oh did you buy that recently? sorry

[still owl]

Sorry but you must have been misinformed. The 1650 in that laptop gets beaten by $200 gpus and the cpu would get beaten by a $150 cpu

[final rock]

yeah im sorry but you got scammed if you spent 2kcad on that recently.

[daring jacinth]

Oof

[violet pagoda]

I have a problem where my Discord no longer works with Soulframe. It freezes and shuts down. I can't stream or talk to my friends once I'm in-game.

can anybody help me ? 🙂

[opaque jasper]

Have you tried toggling hardware acceleration in Discord?

[terse coyote]

Im going crazy, I need help with finding the key to the wolf pups cage in the dungeon I believe I've looked everywhere

Is it enemy loot drop.?

[static ibex]

How does one self ignite for Mora's hand passive?

[violet pagoda]

not jet, ill try it later after work. Thanks

[white void]

does anyone have good magic build? Most i can deal is 600dmg

[uneven vessel]

Why is finding Squawkers such a pain

I have everything else, I just want birb charm

[tired sail]

Try using a headset. I have some sample audio here too if you want to see how it sounds at a distance through different audio devices. #1443494424624627792 message

[real trail]

is there a good farm for blessed joineries?

Im tryna find some but can never find em

[opaque jasper]

I have a hard time not finding them

They seem to always be where I don't want them to be when I'm trying to speedrun sparrow tales

[uneven vessel]

Definitely some desire sensor things going on. Got the first cardinal charm fragment without trying while going for all the other thawtide armor and weapon fragments, but now it's 30-40+ seeders since I've gotten all them and I can't get the other two to drop

And it'd be one thing if the drop rate was this low, but running around like a headless chicken just trying to find the squawkers is going my head in

[unreal roost]

I heard theres a cap to effective courage and other stats eventually. Does anyone know around where taht would be?

[uneven vessel]

lmao

Game heard me talking smack

At least I can confirm that it absolutely will drop from a Squawker when you only destroy it, it's just the droprate is abysmal

Hope this helps anyone searching for a confirmed answer

[white void]

reggata is sucha rigged shit

bro getting only 4's and by some chance kills mine every time

[rough pawn]

Anyone got ideas for pacts on a build w paragon sword and odiac? Was thinking bromius, but then I saw it caught a nerf not too long ago?

[unreal roost]

I just finished a fort/coll with a guy running that, he was using ode tempest with them

absolutely cracked. Some guy asked him for how and he said he will drop it in the discussions here, so I would keep an eye out. His user is ItsjustDRK

[rough pawn]

Ty. Heard tempest had caught a heavy nerf first, so wasnt even considering that 😅😂

[unreal roost]

hey, sometimes nerfs just make them balances and good instead of OP right?

[rough pawn]

No clue what they even were like before, im only 3 days in lol

[blissful sparrow]

tethren, you'll think tethren is only for melee, but no, It's op on ranged too especially staffs lol.

[lunar eagle]

okay-ish game so far. Was expecting some things similar to Warframe but it’s really a completely different game. Ima pick it up more, can’t wait for the full release to see what they do with this

[round fable]

Yep I am about to post my pictures on how I build my Ode.

I have a dual screen system so I have to cut out the second montior

[rough pawn]

Its nice cuz its scratching both my wf and rs itch rn. We’ll see how it holds up tho

[lunar eagle]

My friend said it’s a lot like dragon dogma. Never played but it’s def interesting. Warframe is imo one of the best games to exist so this company/dev team def has my trust

[round fable]

My current Ode Tempest Build

[rough pawn]

Agreed, while I dont think wf is the single best in any attribute, I think its the best all around game and most of that is thanks to DE, not just the game itself. Whole reason I bought founders pack for this as soon as I got a pc 😂

[round fable]

For the Odiac I am of course running Archstorm rune, with Shaper as Defensive, Fleet as utility, and then Spirited and Blighted in attack

It turns Odiac into an aoe fast spell slinging tool that just melts even when I don't have the Arch storm proc

[rough pawn]

Would there be any advantage to using a focus joinerie on either weapon to try and commit to one school?

Or does it not really matter?

[round fable]

Since we do not currently know how the Virtue system is going to be reworked rebuilt, I have not changed any of my focuses on any weaponry

[crimson flame]

Much thanks

[rough pawn]

Heard that, thank you!

Also, what relics and totems are you rocking on the sword?

[round fable]

I was just about to get to that! Heh.

For Marrow's Bane, I am rocking Mistgale, with Hewen as Defensive, Shadow as Attack, Lithe and Graceful as Utility

[crimson flame]

How do I do the lunge on ode?

[round fable]

By kicking at mid range

By the way, this makes doing silent assasinations on unsuspecting targets an absolute BREEZE

Because it is silent if you come up on them from behind.

[unreal roost]

wait omg

is 20 not max rank for weapons

[crimson flame]

bro what

[lean prawn]

30

[round fable]

Nope. 30 for everything

[unreal roost]

ahahahahha. well I have a lot of 20's to upgrade. Thank you

[round fable]

You've been playing the game on hard mode my man

[unreal roost]

my eyes are opened! Thank you lmao

also, thanks for the collector and fort DRK earlier 🙂

[neat night]

actually

a friend of mine managed to reached level 32 with long sword

( dont ask my why, I dunno )

[round fable]

Glitched? xD

[neat night]

it's pre-alpha alright

[crimson flame]

How do I do a finisher when they are laying down?

Like after I knock them over

[smoky crater]

Combat arts or rank?

[neat night]

rank of Longsword proficiency in general

I dunno what it called

[crimson flame]

So combt arts

[neat night]

oh

[smoky crater]

Ye that's not a bug then

[crimson flame]

Yeah mines 45

[smoky crater]

You can get to 45 combat art points for longswords at the moment

[crimson flame]

Should be 50 no? I have all longswords except igne mora as its level 0 atm and that should bring me to 50 no?

[smoky crater]

Or 50 i cant remember

[crimson flame]

Yeah 5 per weapon I have 9 maxxed missing 1 max so 50

[smoky crater]

But probably yes

[crimson flame]

Missing 1 maxxed shortblade and 1 longblade

Just havent leveled them yet

[native drum]

yo just fought the bear shit almost made me tear up not going to lie

but also super easy fight that was

[smoky crater]

Were you using tethren by chance?

[native drum]

ok I just looked yes I am using tethren

[white void]

just great

[ebon wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

it is pre-alpha these things are bound to happen just give it time

[white void]

ik

but 3 in a row quests were like that

so i got kinda annoyed

[ebon wraith]

faction tales?

[white void]

yea

[ebon wraith]

i would suggest avoiding doing tales with that dungeon for now, do the tales in different location so you wont get that dungeon

[white void]

ill try

[slender mirage]

This game i think is one of the nicest looking game ever maded, im a big fan to warframe and also now soulframe.
Only thing warframe missing is ( for me who been playing it 10+ years)
It´s mostly the same, ( levels )
In soulframe i love the openworld thing, i love the bear main quest, it was rly something special, i think if the game devolepers adds more of it, more quest, i think this game will be top 3 in the world by no problems.
I rly hope they add tons of quests, and more diffrent monsters.
Playd it with my wife, like 200h into the game, now we having a break, we finished the quests ( that was the most funny thing ) then we just farmed, farmed and farmed.
I think game needs: More quests, good trade system, pvp system, maybe a pvp area ? that thoose who wants to risk and try out pvp , needs to get to the pvp zone.
I wish the game all the best and we will be back in some mounth 🙂

[smoky crater]

Quests, obviously more coming. Trading, also coming. Pvp, not in the plans

[white void]

was my bug post duplicate so it was removed?

[onyx plank]

Pvp would be interesting if they disabled pact abilities

otherwise it would be trash

but perfect dodges, parrying, throwing weapons, etc would be cool in pvp

I feel like you would have to have a system that matches players based on weapon type. Ranged + ranged to the same, and so on with Melee + melee, and melee + ranged

Otherwise I would just low diff everyone with a machine gun Odiac

or just proc instant smite on flyblades and then throw a flaming paragon through their head

[smoky crater]

[onyx plank]

I think that could easily be solved by separating pvp into two modes

Casual: which allows weapon upgrades, runes, etc

and

Competitive: which only allows base weapon functionality and no pact skills

sort of like smash bros with items vs final destination with no items

that way players have the option to flex their builds while also having an option to play with nothing but raw skill

You could have pvp areas in the gardens, that way it’s not just an empty lobby to run around with envoys looking at statues and founder flowers, but also a pvp utility that can also serve as a gladiatorial space for players in the lobby to watch for entertainment

[ebon wraith]

to be fair we saw PvP implementation in Warframe and I dont think its DE's cup of tea... lets just stick to PvE content that they are good with xD

if you want PvP there are plenty of games with it

[onyx plank]

DE could be good at PvP if they put more than 0% effort in

Just because no one at the company understands it doesn’t mean that has to be the baseline

Warframe PvP was problematic and they let it rot, rather than retrofitting it

This is a fresh game that can be problem solved before hand and in real time as problems emerge

it’s a false dichotomy to assume that we can’t have soulframe in a state of quality and also have acceptable PvP

Whether we get it or not I don’t really care. I’m more so just brainstorming ways that DE could implement it and make it work

for the fun of the hypothetical mainly

It shouldn’t be hard since warframe PvP is such an easy fix. Just make conclave mods free, retrofit conclave standing, scrap any completely dead modes, greatly lower match times and score based win requirements, keep the default pvp free for all mode for the vets who like it. Then with the tech from Kahl, Teshin, and Veso gameplay add a new mainstay PvP mode that’s a 3rd person cover shooter. Maybe make it grineer vs corpus. Or a hero shooter where you can play as Teshin, Kahl, Veso, Adis, and other side characters. That way you’re not getting killed at mach 50 by a vet with god aim for 15 minutes straight.

It is literally a matter of resources and willingness, not a matter of being able

[vagrant kayak]

The easy fix is making a completely new game?

[onyx plank]

The reductionist takeaway

[vagrant kayak]

Also, they did that it was called Amazing Eternals and there was no interest for it so the game was scrapped

[onyx plank]

The tech is already there, you’re removing dead modes, retrofitting standing systems, leveling the playing field with conclave mods being free. Then with the tech that is already there adding on a little bit to it, make a few new arenas, and reuse models. Customization and such can be added in later updates.

You’re not making an entirely different game.

Regardless, my point is that if warframe is that fixable, then implementing a functional PvP system into the fresh canvas of Soulframe should certainly be doable.

[rough pawn]

Do the same animals have different totems attached to them?

[onyx plank]

yes

There’s different rarities of the same animal for the same weapon on every weapon

[rough pawn]

There any way to differentiate the animal? Or just pure rng on collection?

[onyx plank]

Rng on collection

[rough pawn]

Ugh

[onyx plank]

you don’t know until you receive and view it

there’s common, uncommon, and rare. Each have their own traits with different effects.

[rough pawn]

Anything to up chances of rares? Like the caged ones?

[onyx plank]

So bow common, uncommon, rare rabbit, greatsword common, uncommon, rare rabbit, etc

I honestly don’t know

I feel like certain activities give a higher chance of getting a rarer totem but I don’t know if that’s just confirmation bias and conjecture

Maybe sieges, or certain dungeons, or something like that, but I feel like you’d have to do research

Maybe the wiki talks about it

[halcyon thicket]

Cause hero shooters were/are overdone and the market was already saturated

[vagrant kayak]

Not all animals have all rarities, rarities are determined by weapon type, most totems have 2 variants right now

[halcyon thicket]

It's a good argument that a game in early stages of development can indeed not make the mistake of a bad pvp mode

Saying it's not a good idea simply because "look at Warframe" is not enough

I see it alot

[vagrant kayak]

Knowing the audience for your other similar game has no interest in PvP, to the point that the PvEvP mode also is basically dead now is not a bad argument. There are other arguments as well though, namely that combat currently would be pretty awful for PvP.

[onyx plank]

The rarity of a totem is dictated by its border and the flora that bloom with its upgrades. Common is brown, Uncommon is light brown, and Rare is gold.
Most weapons have animals that have all three.

[halcyon thicket]

Have we not seen many people here ask for pvp?

They quickly get shut down by the community who are avid Warframe players

And yes combat rn isn't good enough for pvp

[onyx plank]

That’s also because much of the warframe community are pessimistic and reactionary to be fair. And you can’t blame them when DE pumps out half baked content only to ignore old content that is rotten and driving away new players.

Though thankfully DE has been doing much better

Recent reworks to frames, old tilesets, the operator/drifter, boss reworks, etc

But years of neglect plus enough problems to fill a 1 hour video essay is a lot to fix and work on

and it’s left a lot of players bitter

[halcyon thicket]

Yeah it's a crystal clear bias

[onyx plank]

also let’s be real, the community has a massive problem with redditor psuedo intellectuals being toxic

like the fromsoftware, warhammer, and tcg fandoms

that adds a lot to toxicity, confirmation bias, echo chambers, and holier than thou dismissal of arguments, valid points, and criticism

because people tie their entire identities to the game they also take any criticism as an attack in a very parasocial way

which is probably why outsiders repeatedly refer to warframe as a cult

albeit jokingly

[fallow arch]

ambling or flurry for utility on flyblades?

[onyx plank]

What are they?

I main flyblade but I can’t remember what they do off hand

[fallow arch]

mainly because wtf is this difference?

[onyx plank]

it’s incredibly vague

essentially

[fallow arch]

I mean the difference is 0.9% seemingly

[onyx plank]

one adds 5 to your weapons base smite chance, the other adds smite based on hit

I did the second one because the fly blades spin so fast on an orbit that you’re hitting frequently

[fallow arch]

its also 0.9% higher

[onyx plank]

plus there’s like 3 smite chance upgrades built into the flyblade upgrade tree

[fallow arch]

1 in 17 = 5.9%

[onyx plank]

for sure

[fallow arch]

now I could see a reason for the existence of the second one

IF THE DAMN COGAH RUNE GAVE AN EXTRA UTILITY SLOT

reee

but no both give a defense slot for reasons

[onyx plank]

I comfortably smite a group of 5 enemies about 3-5 times if it’s any consolation, so regardless you’re going to be doing a lot despite that

[fallow arch]

since you normally cant stack totems the ambling and the flurry could be used together

for a good 10.9%

looking at the wiki they are essentially the same aside from that 0.9

[onyx plank]

They’re most likely going to add runes to the weapon that let you expand that slot in time

[fallow arch]

I guess we'll eventually get a rune that will do that but it would have been nice for the cogah one to do that or give an attack slot

think I might run this instead, since its also 5% but doesnt need it to be perfect flying just on any hit

[onyx plank]

I’m honestly hoping for a system to let us augment a rune to give a different slot position

[fallow arch]

wyld runes that give 2 extra slots

[onyx plank]

That’d be too op right?

Maybe 1 slot in two different colors

[fallow arch]

eh you cant stack totems so it would just be more options

though for flyblades yeah you would be getting 15.9% more smite chance

[onyx plank]

Fr

On Magik weapons I already get an insane speed boost

Even one more red would add insane amounts of armor stripping

Idk, personally I don’t think being powerful is a bad thing at all

I think fun and player freedom should be the ethos of gameplay system development

I always figured that players who want a bigger challenge can just not upgrade their gear

[fallow arch]

like I said you cant stack totems though

attack has bypass and reduction

[rough pawn]

Where might one find wraith of the wastes?

[vagrant kayak]

Sidae's Stake, the corrupt zone near the middle of the map

He won't spawn until you finish the Waste Bear Fable however

[onyx plank]

https://soulmap.avakot.org/P12

[rough pawn]

Ive done waste bear

[onyx plank]

Can you clarify what you mean by that?

Like, stack as in totem type, effect, or what?

[fossil elk]

yall think its safe to sell a regular pact of a wyld after leveled?

[fallow arch]

the same exact totem cant be used twice

in the same slot type

[onyx plank]

True

[fallow arch]

like you can slot it but it doesnt do anything

[onyx plank]

you can use the same animal though as long as it has different rarity as far as I’m aware

Like a brown bordered rabbit and a gold bordered rabbit for example

[neat citrus]

I guess you could, but why?

[fossil elk]

limited pact slots so i dont have to use currency

[fallow arch]

those are two different totems though

[pine warren]

If I'm currently at waste bear mission, how long would it take me to reach endgame if I were to grind? Also is it worth it to rush to endgame?

[onyx plank]

if you have oscelda and wyld oscelda then you can safely get rid of Oscelda once you fully level it for the account xp

[neat citrus]

I would just use the currency tbh
it's worth it to buy slots, probably the only good use of the currency rn

[fossil elk]

thank u

[onyx plank]

no problem man, I get you. you don’t know what new content might come out so saving your currency is important.

[neat citrus]

slots will literally always be useful

"new content" won't change that

[fossil elk]

yea but i rather wait and see since its hella early

[neat citrus]

fair enough

[onyx plank]

I was empathizing with another humans stance my guy, I bought myself slots, but I won’t critique or fault someone else for wanting to wait it out and be frugal

[ebon wraith]

I didn't sell regular tethren since who knows maybe at later stages we get something like hemlith and regular pacts will be useful + we hopefully have trading system similar to warframe

[neat citrus]

hell yeah my guy

[neat citrus]

[onyx plank]

https://tenor.com/view/fma-fullmetal-alchemist-armstrong-bromance-viril-gif-16049606

[ebon wraith]

So using the currency isn't that bad

[onyx plank]

Very good point

[neat citrus]

it's really not, I spent like 200 or so on slots and I still have over 3000 left so there isn't really any harm unless you buy way too many slots lol

[onyx plank]

Although if Waframe is any indication you’ll need like 500 slots

lmao

[neat citrus]

true 😭

[fossil elk]

i spent a good 120 for weapon slots and a pact slot but i heard yall got more slots if u were here early

[neat citrus]

yeah true, we started with more slots

[ebon wraith]

Well some like me bought 1 pack only(third world country and all) so we have much less currency but I hope DE will keep same monetization system as warframe which is fair for everyone

[neat citrus]

ah fair yeah
I hope they keep it the same as well, I wouldn't really play it otherwise

[onyx plank]

hopefully

The literal biggest draw to warframe besides movement, gameplay, story, and fashion is the monetization and trade options

missing that in Soulframe would be catastrophic

[fossil elk]

plat is de's bread and butter. trading is coming in the next couple of months with the currency being available

[ebon wraith]

Yes it is but when f2p players can get some just by playing is 10/10 system and not locking them out/punishing for not paying is the best there is

That's why I support wf and soulframe a little when I can

[fossil elk]

def but i dont see that content rn sadly. we would need something like orokin vaults. the only thing i can see people trading for is the paragon if u dont have it

but even then that a 100 dollars us

[onyx plank]

I’m excited for 4 years from now when there’s weapon skins and Envoygen

[ebon wraith]

I bet there will be tradable things that they will add, maybe rare runes/totems from sieges/raids etc and wyld gear so all we have to do is wait

[fossil elk]

wyld gear will probably drop on release or shortly after

[ebon wraith]

Maybe even rare world events

[fossil elk]

at least it aint no excalibur

[ebon wraith]

We already have 3 wyld sets and probably few more but there is time till release for sure

[fossil elk]

theyll probably do the beast pacts/faction pacts next

[onyx plank]

going off of warframe you’ll probably be able to trade resources, totems, runes, and weapons components

[fossil elk]

give a armor suited for each more

[ebon wraith]

I remember Steve said fishing is gonna be a thing too, I made quite a bit of plat in WF by fishing and mining

About 16000 total I think

[fossil elk]

nah man not the rare fish

[onyx plank]

Dear god, the world is not ready for Wyld Bear Pact and Wyld Tempest Ode

Pactical Nuke

[fossil elk]

i want that helmet the banereet wears the stag one

[onyx plank]

That is a pretty good one

[fossil elk]

but going by timeline we got like a year

[onyx plank]

I would love the robes worn by the Wraith of the Wastes

in an altered color with dye they’d go hard

[fossil elk]

dude we dont have boss drops besides king that goes hard

[onyx plank]

I mean

[fossil elk]

the fashion is not fashioning

[onyx plank]

there’s Circade at least

[ebon wraith]

Looking at wf cosmetics I bet the artist team will cook some goodies for us to fashionframe our endgame

[fossil elk]

yea but im also a bit annoyed since i chose a male character and the wylds sets look terrible with it

the green at least

[onyx plank]

Hopefully we’ll eventually be able to change pact colors

Just give it time

remember we’re still in early alpha

not even beta

there’s still a lot of time and development to go

I’m just grateful we have transmog

[neat citrus]

we will, this has been confirmed

[onyx plank]

hell yeah

see what I mean? DE has it covered lol

[half oxide]

what do people mean when they say "lf arena"

thats a dungeon somewhere?

[pine warren]

"Looking for Arena"

Basically they are looking for other players to join them for a certain quest

[half oxide]

where do i find this arena

[pine warren]

No clue

Haven't gotten past waste bear

[half oxide]

oh fair

[smoky crater]

"arena" is a specific tile in the glades dungeon where after interacting with a certain statue, it starts spawning 20 waves of mockeries

[half oxide]

why is the bird just flying in place 😭

[smoky crater]

probably nothing to track

[half oxide]

maybe

quest says to seek the sap

[smoky crater]

or you're in the search radius for some objective

ah yeah that'd do it

should be a search radius on your map most likely and you gotta go pick up sap from a tree

[mossy latch]

Endless is arena now?

[smoky crater]

community name for it kinda changed after Thawtide yeah since it's no longer "endless"

[velvet grail]

Still feels endless. 😭

[spice relic]

Hello guys, question. I have two "Garren Rood" items, I guess it's the pact item, but how do I equip it? In pacts when I press "Swap" there's only one unlocked.

[velvet grail]

You have the recipe, still need to craft it.

[smoky crater]

you have to craft it first

[spice relic]

Ohhhhh

Thanks, I can't find River Pearls for the pact of the bear... I've run over every river but found like two

[velvet grail]

You can check the swamp too, I find a lot there as well.

[open sail]

Willing to trade for brass

🤣

[velvet grail]

Wagiii has a couple thousand by now. That's a rich Envoy when trading comes out.

[open sail]

Jesus how. I mean I farm curlail a few times when I actually need to craft something. Multi account + taxi endless over and over for the brass in the room?

[smoky crater]

solo no endless

[velvet grail]

That seems to be the current strategy.

Back then, brass was more abundant.

Back before the Avakot wiki, I used to keep track of loot locations on the forum. There were more options then.

Now it's just Avakot's Gots and weapon racks.

[open sail]

Back to curlail it is. I want to craft the mora pact. Need 50+.

[frozen ether]

Am I missing something when creating a Loadout? Everytime I switch loadouts my weapons from the other one are there

Seems to be working now I don’t know why I had to do it twice, would be easier with a save & overwrite button

[severe epoch]

do pacts and weapons from founders pack come already crafted?

[smoky crater]

yes, and with their own weapon slots

[full hearth]

Yes they are just given to you

Alongside slots

[severe epoch]

awesome... now to pick one of the three

[full hearth]

Paragon

[smoky crater]

[severe epoch]

[full hearth]

But if you're just getting one, probably get a feel for the pacts and buy your favorite

[mystic cipher]

[severe epoch]

already maxed regular oscelda, everyone keeps saying tethren is op atm

[mystic cipher]

I was going to originally just get wyld oscelda (as oscelda was my starter) but after the amount of playtime I have since downloading, getting the paragon felt like a worthwhile investment while also supporting the devs

[full hearth]

Getting what's op now may backfire later

[woven nymph]

Trying to to understand the game just downloaded it yesterday but I'm kinda lost

[severe epoch]

i plan on getting all but i know im not leaving my desktop ever again if get all and play nonstop

[plain isle]

does anyone know where the gathannan parts drop? i thought it was the stag but i took out so many stags and only get garren parts, also what about dewelion parts?

[full hearth]

https://wiki.avakot.org/

[severe epoch]

imma get wyld tethren and have the real darksouls simulator experience

[smoky crater]

tethren won't do that
unless you completely ignore the first ability

[mystic cipher]

Teth is about as far from dark souls as you can get in fantasy

[severe epoch]

hmm

imma check em all on youtube first then

[arctic hazel]

tethren's first ability is probably the most insane thing in the game right now

zero thought spam any ranged attack and bosses will die in a few hits

[weary knoll]

hey guys

how do I sell weapons? Im out of slots

[full hearth]

Speak with the camel to sell weapons or buy slots

[weary knoll]

ah thanks

[winter barn]

If I buy an exclusive founders' shirt, will it only arrive at the end of June?

[severe epoch]

the grind evolves

[winter barn]

??

[full hearth]

Capitalism Camel is pleased

[winter barn]

If I buy an exclusive founders' shirt, will it only arrive at the end of June?

[frozen ether]

can you use Curaidhs breath in cogah? whens best to use it cos it only gives an hour of courage

[open sail]

Never needed

[frozen ether]

Does it just boost your damage stats?

[full hearth]

It adds 10 to your Courage value

What that does for you personally only you can know, because you control the weapons you bring and so on.

[frozen ether]

Would that bypass the cap for damage on courage points?

[full hearth]

Virtue caps will be respected even if you add 10 to your Virtue value

[frozen ether]

Potions not worth it then

[solid musk]

uh.... where is it?

[smoky crater]

look for a goop puddle on the ground

[full hearth]

Noisy ichor pool will contain the Stag

[solid musk]

i did

its not the first time of me doing it

[smoky crater]

[solid musk]

i littrally walked on every square meter of that place

[pine latch]

hi guys question about joinery, i used a joinery that says attuned to courage into my juniper

is it bad? do i need to re stat into courage or is it fine to stay full grace?

[smoky crater]

gotta throw your points to courage now instead of grace

[solid musk]

it depends, how much do you like the weapon? are you willing to get it reattuned to grace?

[pine latch]

yea

[smoky crater]

you can just use a Polished joinery, no need to use a blessed by saphene one

to get it back to scaling with grace

[solid musk]

what? i littrally saw an enemy attacking the air in the place where the stag is supposed to be

[smoky crater]

a

then it could be the case of "day time"

[pine latch]

btw am i gonna be weaker even if i level my juniper to lvl 30 compare to before?

[smoky crater]

no

[pine latch]

so its fine if i stay this way? i equipped a +4 courage amulet and restat my grace into courage

[gilded jewel]

anybody know how to reach lev 17'

[granite jacinth]

So i just got to know how to get motes and went back to the first tower, i saw a motes but people attacked me i fought them and now the motes is gone what do i do?